Post some science-fiction novels you recommend; write a bit about each so we get an idea what we're in for.
Dune
It's the best book ever written and has a huge expanded universe
Potentially the first sci-fi novel ever written, a medical student finds a way to revive corpses. His creation is not happy with the gift of life and seeks revenge.
>>707724416
The first pages of it turned me off because of the style. Should I insist?
![350[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/xiwyERK.jpg "350[1].jpg")
Valentine Michael Smith is a human being raised on Mars, newly returned to Earth. Among his people for the first time, he struggles to understand the social mores and prejudices of human nature that are so alien to him, while teaching them his own fundamental beliefs in grokking, watersharing, and love.
Too lazy to describe so copied a synopsis. Great book with interesting philosophy behind it.
>>707724467
That's up to you.
>>707724327
Novelettes:
Hard to be a God.
>experimental history department has landed people on a new planet where they integrated into society. What could possibly go wrong?
Sandkings
>A megalomaniacal sociopath obtains 4 kinds of strange alien pets which he is going to pit against each other.
The whole Ender Saga. Top tier thought experiments on extraterrestrial contact.
old mans war
Superior aliens arrive. We can only surrender, but they seem to want our best interests.
They refuse to be seen.
>>707724797
Only the first book is worth reading. Suffered through second book only to find out why the guy was killed, story was shit.
Balls to the wall action, two narratives, one in third, one in first. Pretty cool story. I'm divided about the final part of it but it's a sweet read if you like sci-fi war and aliens.
You don't get to learn much about the aliens, however, just as with
>>707724676
Where nobody seems to give a fuck that Martians are even a thing. I thought that was a plot hole and made little sense, but the style of that novel makes up for everything else. That old guy is gold.
Otherland saga.
>>707725449
Nigger
No ringworld? Fucking faggot posers
>>707725388
Second book is very different but still pretty good in its own right. It's almost only psychology, I found, which made up most of Ender's Game as well.
I enjoyed both though they are hugely different and I'm not sure I even want to go any further now.
Ender's Game is definitely one of the best I've ever read, not just amongst sci-fi novels.
>>707725580
>whines that nobody posted Ringworld
>doesn't post Ringworld
I haven't read it, faggot.
>>707725388
I get where you're coming from, the later books are much more philosophyheavy, but for me just as rewarding.
Some of my personal favorites I can think of right now:
Childhood's End
Ringworld, Engineers, Throne
The Mote in God's Eye
Tales of Known Space
Robot Dreams
Ender's Game, Ender's Shadow
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?
Halo The Fall of Reach, The Flood, First Strike
>>707725636
At least your honest about being a poser
All that other shit your saying is gayer than dicks
Fuck the mother that bore you
First Contact happens, and badly. Aliens get slaughtered like faggots.
First person narrator tells his story. From deadly space bootcamp to centuries of war against the Taurans.
>author is both a Vietnam vet and an astrophysicist
Very solid novel.
Anything Stephen Baxter
>>707725812
>poser on anonymous Chinese imageboard
At least you're honest about being a shitty troll.
>>707725388
Ender's Shadow is the only sequel worth reading, imo. Honestly I like it more than Ender's Game in some ways. The writing is overall better.
>>707724797
This, plus pic related. Both the Ender saga, and this book's reputation were ruined by movies that weren't even close to what the original stories were about.
Not that most movies ever hold up to their book versions...but I'm afraid that newer generations would be turned off by these old school sci-fi classics because of shit tier "muh CGI" films.
"Starship Troopers"
>Political story set in the future after the end of a war between two "fictional" superpowers.
>Very contraversial back when it was written (early cold war).
>Debates the role of a "citizen" within society.
>>707724676
Great book
>>707726057
>The writing is overall better.
When people say that, I always wonder what, exactly, they have in mind.
Can you help me understand?
>>707724797
This. First book is amazing and the movie did NOT do it justice.
Second book is good... But kinda hard to follow.
Third book... Too much of a trudge.
Fourth isn't bad.
Enders shadow is pretty good. First one again but from another perspective
Shadow of the Hegemon is ok too.
>>707726330
>.but I'm afraid that newer generations would be turned off by these old school sci-fi classics because of shit tier "muh CGI" films.
People who read will read them. People who don't read will not. Shitty (or good for that matter) movies won't hold anyone back. So stop your bitching.
>>707726330
I second this.
The Forever War is like its counterpart with different politics without being despicable.
I'd venture to say SS is still controversial today, maybe more so.
fucking Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
>>707725584
I liked the second one. But the third is just tough to get through and A LOT LESS action. Just wayyyyy more intellectual driven
>>707726516
Ender's Game was the authors first sci-fi novel in general. I like the story telling of Ender's Shadow better, but I can't really explain it specifically.
I suppose it is like having a band that has a decent first album, but the second album is in every way. The first one is still good and solid, but the second is overall better.
Star Maker - Olaf Stapeldon
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Maker
When you like your scifi deep and waxing philosophical. Watch out for the inevitable existential crisis you will have.
If you like teen novels (I'm only suggesting them because I loved them throughout middle/highschool)...
I recommend the pendragon series. A little angsty at times (I couldn't STAND the fourth book)... But I has great humor and is pretty damn relatable/is an easy read. The action is well paced, the characters are all very organic, and the universe it creates is pretty cool. Once you get halfway through to book 5 - shit gets REAL and it gets really fun. Last chapter of the series will give you so many feels you will want to take a week off of work to recoop.
Hobey-ho. And so we go.
greatly enjoyed the tripods trilogy when i was little, not sure how it'd hold up though, otherwise yes to ringworld, enders game, and anything arthur c clarke
One of my favorites in the context of 40k. Yarrick is a badass. Plus it doesnt build from horus heresy, its pretty concise. Going to read its prequel soon.
Stars Commisar Yarrick and the early days of the 2nd war for Armageddon. He has to both fight tactically proficient orks and an obstructive world leader who just cares about his personal image and power over the good of the people.
Also - maybe try 1984. Its weird to compare it all to what actually is going on in today's world.
Same with Atlas Shrugged. But that's such a long read its fucking difficult.
>>707726330
Starship Troopers is the worst book I've ever read.
Short story: The Last Question by Isaac Asimov
It's honestly just a couple of minutes of your time, but I found it really neat and well written. Give it a shot.
>>707726805
But the second was Speaker for the Dead, not Ender's Shadow. I haven't read Shadow.
Although this is sorta cheating considering its 3 books and 2 short stories. It's written by dan abnett who is one of the best authors for black library. Is a sequel series to eisenhorn.
Stars Inquisitor Gideon Ravenor and his. Doesnt just focus on one character (there are quite a few). Has a bit of an action detective theme. Bit noir.
>>707727291
You've either read 4 books overall or your taste is shit, or you're a butthurt communist.
Show me an example of a comparably better book than SS, with common themes. I'm curious.
>>707727017
Sorry forgot to give the description.
Basically the main character is the generic middle school all star athlete. His uncle is a unique man and kind of takes him away because "there are people that need (his) help."
They end up being chased by some thugs, hide away in a tunnel in the subway, then transport to another realm. Turns out the people there know his uncle and he begins to randomly understand their language/they can understand him. Eventually, he finds out there are many other realsm like this and only select people from each can travel between them. He and the others are fighting to protect the realms from chaos caused by the protagonist who takes on political/military leadership roles and tries to incite civil unrest.
Story is about him dealing with life changes, responsibility, fighting against the bad guy, learning about the different realms/travelers, and finding out his role in the universe.
Cool ass series, though it is a little "kiddish" the first half of it. The books mature the audience though
Lost Fleet series by Jack Campbell
Protagonist John Geary is rescued after 100 years of stasis only to find that he's the only man in the navy who still knows what tactics and strategy even are, has to re-train his fleet without upsetting their petty honor.
Author draws on his experience in the IRL navy to flesh out backroom politics and 3D space tactics
>>707727450
Dan is a far better comic author than book author, read his ~2008 run of Marvel's cosmic shit instead
I'm looking for this:
>alien thread
>war
>God
I can only ever find two at once, never all three.
>>707727735
Caused by the antagonist*** whoops
>>707727693
I stopped reading when it took him 6 pages to describe a power suit that would never work.
Typical series of "heres a problem, lets fix it" type progress with no interesting themes throughout.
>>707727401
I specified a few post back that I meant Shadow. Sorry for the confusion.
I found Speaker for the Dead to be dreadful to read and didn't like it nearly as much.
Even my friend who told me to read Ender's Game in the first place knows the importance of Ender's Shadow. It is a companion novel, as in the story is of the same events from other points of view. I would say it requires reading Ender's Game first, but I'd say the two are tightly tied together and complete each other.
>>707727879
>I stopped reading when it took him 6 pages to describe a power suit that would never work.
I have no memories of that.
>Typical series of "heres a problem, lets fix it" type progress with no interesting themes throughout.
No interesting theme? The use of violence, death penalthy, corporal punishment, etc.
I mean, friend, there are entire chapters that are nothing but a class discussing ethics about these themes. Maybe they don't interest you, but they are interesting, all of them.
If you had described Armor that way, I would have agreed.
>>707724431
>Potentially the first sci-fi novel ever written
nigga u what?
ok in terms of "its pritty cheezy and trashy" yes
srsly tho its faust for poor ppl
dont make me post smug schiller all over this board
>inb4 schillery didnt write faust
DONT MAKE ME
>>707724327
who the fuck still reads books lmao
>>707727949
>t is a companion novel, as in the story is of the same events from other points of view. I
>it's 50 shades of grey from Grey's eyes
Not sure I'd want to go for such a book. I loved Ender's Game, and this book may be about Bean, and I loved Bean.
>mfw they made Bean a literally beanie spic in the movie
Are there any Tenchi Muyo tier Sci-Fi novels to read with a harem of sorts with a protag who's badass or semi-badass?
>>707728092
It's the first novel that incorporates science that way. Other candidates don't really have science as an important theme.
>>707725580
Larry Niven is a hack
>>707728092
>shillery wrote Dr. Faustus the magnificiado
wat
>>707728092
Can it be argued that it was the first to introduce sci-fi and sci-fi horror to the mainstream audience?
>>707728106
People who can punctuate and write.
>spends hours a day on a board with nothing but images and text
>thinks reading text is outdated
Get a load of this, you faggot, it's in the format you like.
>>707724327
If you like Arthur C Clarke you should read Venus Prime.
this book is the shit
>>707728217
You're stick with translated Japanese light novels of you want that anime shit fam
Tenchi Muyo has a mecha spinoff called War on Geminar, you have bad taste so you'll like it
>>707727791
Well im not comparing him to authors outside of black library. I agree he thinks in more comic narrative (he's that type of artist), but i will stick by the claim he is one of the best in the pool of black library authors.
>>707728200
Autism much?
>>707728388
Noted.
Required reading
>>707728518
Best compared to who, C.S. Goto?
Not exactly a high bar
>>707728428
Never tried it because I fear it's edgy fedora's book of jokes about space.
>>707728428
In fact the whole series is. Also pic relationado (Dirk Gently saga)
>>707724797
Started with Ender's Game, followed the chronology, interweaving the series with Ender's Shadow.
There were only a few sloggish moments, but I read the entire thing, including.the formic series.LOVED EVERY SECOND.
If someone is new to it and wants to dive in, I recommend starting with the formic war books and progress in chronological order. If you can find them in audiobook format, you're in for a fucking treat.
>>707728686
>If you can find them in audiobook format,
>>707728648
It kinda is, but the jokes are hilarious.
>>707727811
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mote_in_God%27s_Eye
>>707724327
one of my favorites
>>707725850
the social developments are pretty bizarre but I love the main characters journey through dozens of generations of human progress. nice take on interstellar war and culture shock. really loved this.
>>707728811
Then enjoy THIS joke:
>42
>is the number for God's accomplished plan in Christian numerology
>>707728267
>magic lightning stuff makes braincells work again
ye thats about as magical as faust dealing with the devil
>>707728285
maybe but that reasoning would make twilight the go to vampire book/movie
>>707728645
Goto is shit. But a decent author (not fanttastic or amazing) is still better than shit authors in this context. Ill take what i can get. Bit of a theme with 40k, take what you ca get abd hope it's not shit.
>>707728826
Got my interest.
>>707728285
The majority of the population knew dracula before they knew edwad.
>>707729045
>ye thats about as magical as faust dealing with the devil
The science-fiction of today will probably sound comparably retarded in a few centuries. No matter. You won't say Back to the Future isn't sci-fi just because it has goofy science.
>>707729105
Also sorry for spelling, on phone.
Time to put a good word for this. Forget the TV show (not that it's bad), but this is pretty cool. Give it 70 pages before giving up (I almost did). The rest is top tier, despite some silly shit like the idea of gravity being created inside ships because of acceleration (you'd have to speed up exponentially for days on end).
>>707728355
haha timid beta male
>>707729273
Typing on a phone gets you a medal and a license to sodomise the English language as much as will help you communicate. I fucking hate typing on phones as much as I love English.
The individual stories of seven pilgrims on a journey to confront an interdimensional deity on a planet at the center of a space rebellion. That's a shitty one sentence description but the book is excellent.
>>707729595
read and enjoyed
>>707724327
Allistar Reynolds, Revelation Space
Pretty much anything by H.P. Lovecraft. His work is more in the sci-fi horror genre. His most popular story is Call of Cthulhu.
>>707729240
back to to to to to to the future is a familly comedy
time travel can not be explained and/or done. is hellraiser sci fi too? i mean they kinda explain where they come from and why they need to use torture to sustain their existence. do you realy take ghost busters as sci fi? i mean shit magic spells have incantations too that is a science in itself. by your rule it just needs to kinda explain the shit they do so its not fantasy but sci fi. or must sci fi just have techno shit and bubbling pots of flubber in it? im couriouse now.
>>707729513
It'd work better if it connected to anything I actually said.
Read the posts, homo, you'll like them.
>>707729724
Hannu Rajaniemi
The Quantum Thief trilogy
>>707729595
>That's a shitty one sentence description but the book is excellent.
Are you kidding? That made me diamonds. I've been thinking about getting this for a while now, but no description did it for me like yours did, no homo.
>The individual stories of seven pilgrims on a journey to confront an interdimensional deity on a planet at the center of a space rebellion.
Diamonds.
I ordered The Mote in God's Eye, and I'll order this as well. Fuck it.
>>707729781
>>707729893
see now we bring elder things into the equasion. still sci fi? i mean the mi go are some fucked up brain extractors. the great race of yith has ray guns and astral projection. where do we draw the line. TELL US
>>707724467
>The first pages of it turned me off because of the style. Should I insist?
I think so, the first few pages are scene setting, you might find it better when things start happening.
Persist until Paul meets the Freman maid at least. That's not too far in and you'll have a better idea.
>>707729781
It's really a shame he didn't become recognized for his work until after after his death and in poverty.
>>707729537
Agreed.>>707730119
Also try not to think too much about islam when reading, or do.
>>707725580
>No ringworld? Fucking faggot posers
Then post it faggot.
I liked N-space when I was 15, I'm not sure I still would.
I liked Ender's game and Speaker for the Dead, not sure about the rest. I suppose I liked the Ender's Shadow series but they're also a bit cringy in places. It was a shameful pleasure I guess.
live free or die
John ringo
first book in a trilogy. solid sci fi and very fun to read. He has a great sense of humor. If your a sci fi fan you probably already know that
>>707730251
... He had an entire circlejerk of noted authors writing fanfiction for his stupid squidman that can be killed with a boat
>>707729893
>time travel can not be explained and/or done.
Doesn't matter, it's done through technology. Any story with faster than light travel is in the same category as BTTF because of "impossible science" by our standards. Comedy or not, no difference.
Hellraiser could be sci-fi if the cenobites used technology, but they don't, they're supernatural beings, hence not sci-fi.
>do you realy take ghost busters as sci fi?
Doesn't matter what I think, but it has elements of it, yes, like the proton pack stuff. When it's a comedy, you can more easily bend over the rules because nobody will be autistic about it not making much sense.
>i mean shit magic spells have incantations too that is a science in itself.
No, because the idea with science is that it makes sense and is possible, whereas magic doesn't and isn't.
>sci-fi is what could be
>fantasy is what can't be
According to Orson Scott Card. It's a good definition.
>by your rule it just needs to kinda explain the shit they do so its not fantasy but sci fi
Not even.
>or must sci fi just have techno shit and bubbling pots of flubber in it? im couriouse now.
Usually yes, but it's really about technology over magic. You should read:
>>707725636
It's short and excellent.
>>707725097
>old mans war
Definitely this.
Also, Oath of Fealty - Larry Niven & Jerry Pournel.
Pretty good near-future story about an arcology built in LA. Sort of a Libertarian preaching but still good. Source of the phrase: "Think of it as Evolution in Action"
Cool books, nice authors
>>707725905
W/ Author C Clarke
>>707724797
only read the first. the rest are just and excuse for scott card to make up random philosophical bullshit.
>>707729595
Bought.
Along with Mote.
Great thread, guys.
>>707725850
Great book
>>707730566
this is such a good book. Also i enjoyed the Legacy of the Aldenata series
Foundation trillogy. Issac asimov
Ready player 1
>>707730071
Lovecraft blurs the line between sci-fi and occult and the rest, just as his entities do. I enjoy that a whole bunch. Although his stories, in my memory, are way more about the occult/unknown than the science. Cthulhu is as much a demon as an alien entity. His exact nature lies beyond our understanding. I like that shit.
>>707730473
>for his stupid squidman that can be killed with a boat
Sick burn.
(It does make me think, though, because that is how they escape Ctool in the story... Not very mighty.)
>>707728623
it's the best
>>707730837
>>707731401
Yeah buddy. Love those books.
>>707728623
Also on audio book on youtube
>>707728623
Asimov : foundation and the "robots" stories
Funny how big his impact is and only a few know about him
The Stars Are Cold Toys & Star Shadow
by Sergei Lukyanenko
Basically earth is enslaved by a liga of aliens which devides its members into the strong and weak.
A pilot is send out to find strong allies in order to free earth from the grip of this liga.
On his way he will encounter 2 potential allies, both highly advanced technological wise, but even tho they appear human, their societies are even more alien than that of the liga...
>>707730906
You're right but I understood those entities as more of malevolent ancient aliens who are god like because of their age whose realms humans can access through occult ritual. A lot of his other stuff uses steam punk like science to explain access to those other realms. In one of his stories a scientist creates a device that allows him and his friend to bring another universe and the creatures with it into his house. And in another an explorer actually mates and has a son with a ancient tribe of neanderthal in I think african. I'd say that's pretty sci-fi.
David Brin
the uplift books
>>707728756
This one wigged me out when I read it...
Dick was an incredible writer, I'm not sure we'll see his like in the genre again.
>>707724677
You fucking autist.
Stanislaw Lem - Solaris
Travelling the universe, humanity has found no other live, except for a planet which seems to be alive. But even though the planet probably has some sort of intelligence, it is so foreign that any communication is futile.
>>707726593
Holy fuck forever war was one I could not put down. It had a cowboy bebop feel to it.
>>707732371
>a liga of aliens
>liga
>>707732660
Try watching the movie based on that. I forget what it's called...
>>707733453
german here.
According to the wiki, they are called "conclave" in the books.
>>707732887
I somewhat disagree. I like his ideas but I always feel like he fucks up everything he does, from title to prose to plots to characters.
My favourite so far may be pic related or The World Jones Made.
>>707729781
>>707730071
>>707730906
>>707732660
Unrelated but H.P. Lovecraft was also the creator of the Necronomicon.
>>707733418
Yep, it's great shit. Gave it as a birthday gift to my best friend.
He speaks French better than English, so I got him the French edition, with this based cover.
>>707725905
>>707730645
Or with Terry Pratchett. The Long Earth series is an easy but fun read. Love Discworld too, but that's not scifi.
good book about nanobots
>>707734012
>starting to think of that Baxter fellow as some beta cuck that other authors use to wipe their asses and sloppy dicks with
>>707733367
Good shit right here.
>>707725516
Heard of it, but yet to read it. Synopsis?
>>707725763
>Mentions Halo books
>Doesn't speak of the Forerunner Saga
Kek
GAME PROPOSITION
I post random book covers from my folder and you tell me if they're good or what.
>>707734614
Literally no clue about this, just images I saved from previous threads.
>>707734667
Keep hearing about this one.
>>707734718
>>707734614
>>707734614
This I saw often.
>>707724327
Everything by Isaac Asimov especially the Foundation trilogy, Foundation and Earth, Prelude to Foundation and Forward the Foundation. Nothing better in scifi has ever been written except the I Robot stories also by Isaac Asimov.
>>707734614
>>707734614
>>707734718
Gibson is good.. cyberpunk
>>707735071
amen, brother. preach.
>>707734614
>>707734614
>>707734614
>>707734759
Alan forster Dean wrote "Alien" but don't know about his other books
>>707735243
He didn't write the Alien movie script, if that's what you mean. Did he write a novelisation?
>>707735254
Kek
>>707734160
Actually he's written most of his books on his own
http://www.bookseriesinorder.com/stephen-baxter/
>>707735071
I am am just totally puzzled why no movies (except i robot) was ever made. This is the pinnacle of scifi, i would probaly die if i ever saw the Foundation series in the movie theatre especially if it was made with the care and quality of the game of thrones series.
>>707735312
Yes .. After the movie
>>707728648
fuck you, adams managed to write the funniest SF series in existence, you don't insult that.
>>707735142
A true believer as i am myself :D.
>>707735359
Write about a ton of current technology way before it happened. Got smart phones and googles Android right right years before launch. Even a lot of current events.
>>707725850
quite possibly my favourite novel. I like the follow up, but it wasn't quite as good as the first.
>>707725636
>goes on sci-fi book thread
>hasn't read Ringworld
Why even bother coming here?
>>707735468
Not insulting it. Just really don't care for comedy sci-fi.
>>707735587
I love Asimov's writing. Especially foundation. Its just perfect
>>707735707
>Why even bother coming here?
Because I don't assume I have read every great sci-fi novel in existence. I started a few years ago only.
>coming here made me aware of Ringworld's existence
>"Why bother coming here"
You answered your own question.
>>707735785
>I love Asimov's writing.
Can you elaborate?
I highly recommend Alastair Reynolds first four books. He is a scientist specializing in astrology and astrophysics, and uses his knowledge really well to put together a great story. Basically, ruins of an extinct alien civilization are discovered on another planet and people are trying to figure out why they died out even though they were very advanced technologically. Eventually they discover a machine sentience that detects advanced life forms and wipes them out. This story is about humanity trying to escape from or destroy the machines. Each book is like 800pgs and incorporates several people stories that end up coming together in the end. Easily my favorite books of all time, I've read them each several times.
Wow..I just had to check that I am actually on /b/ ... never saw a threat like this here ...
>>707728666
Trips of truth have been spoken
>>707736005
Sounds interesting.
The sad thing about sci-fi, I feel, is that it's always the same few plots over and over. I don't mind it that much, I'd read any first contact novel, for instance.
>>707724467
try the audio book it keeps going where i would normally have noped out and got me back into it now i love it and have reread twice
Get an Audible Account and listen to this... Awesome book, great sound effects and Performances by the voice actors. it's free
http://www.audible.com/pd?asin=B01CYVJUBC&action_code=AUDORWS0424159DCE
>>707735868
Its just so full of detail and world building and clever concepts that really make it a rich experience to read. These huge settings with millions of worlds and complex ideas just interest me so much. especially as the foundation series (Robots,Empire and Foundation) span some 25,000 years.
>>707725584
>>707726668
I've made it thru the Speaker of the dead, Xenocide and Children of the mind. Even if hards its worth to read it to the end. Also I recommend to read shadow saga, and the prequel saga. Shadow saga and the prequel one are written very simmilar to the Ender's game book. Very easy to read, nice flow and alot of action. Atm I need to finish Shadow in flight which is last(atleast for now) of the Shadow series and Earth Awakens which is last of the prequel saga about Mazer.
>>707736067
I'm OP and a mastertroll, I made you believe you weren't on /b/.
I always believed in anon's potential, you only have to believe.
I believe anon is a smart guy. I've never regretted trusting anon's quality as a human being. He delivers.
>>707724327
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy series: best sci-fi
>>707736194
I'm a literary guy, I can't imagine listening to a book... I need punctuation, paragraphs, italics, etc. I may read it.
>>707736005
>astrology
Really?
>>707736005
> died out even though they were very advanced technologically
like the idea already, they do that a lot in sci-fi but either hand wave away the explanation or give a lacking one.
>>707734020
pretty good action sci-fi. i had hope for a movie adaption for a long time after reading it.
>>707729135
It should have. One of the most intense, action-packed, hardcore sci-fi I've ever read. And it was voted a close second in "The best sci-fi film never made" by The Register readers.
>>707736351
>like the idea already, they do that a lot in sci-fi but either hand wave away the explanation or give a lacking one.
For that matter, the Expanse series is worth a look too. Vaguely similar premise though it's really about the gap in scifi between present day and reaching the stars.
>>707735830
you make a fair point there buddy
Anything by William Gibson. Fantastic writer
>>707734460
It's about an internetlike virtual reality and the creation of a perfect virtual world by a very old, very rich man and some likable and not so likable characters who travel through the betatest.
>>707736210
That sounds like audible autism to me. Is it like a radio play?
>>707736228
Where do I start with Asimov? I don't much care for robots.
>>707736335
lol
he was the only astrologer working at ESA
>>707736460
I ordered it. The cover looks bad, but I hope I'll get another cover. Can't wait.
>>707729451
Agree on the give it time. They start slow and boring, but it's almost necessary because of what it needs to set up
>>707736891
vaguely but much better, try it its only like 4.5 hrs you can listen to it in and afternoon.
Are there actually good any sci fi novels where the protagonist becomes powerful superhuman tier? Preferably with ayy lmaos and interstellar travel as well
Also, I recommend reading the Bane Trilogy - first audiobook is here:
https://youtu.be/YXAmiC2yBHM
The MC is edgy, but in a good and mature way.
>>707736067
it was a regular/daily thing before the summerfags and redditards took over
/b/ is a shadow of itself now
Man gets a divorce and gets away from his problems by traveling to the end of an arm of the galaxy via wormhole. It takes him ~2 weeks but 150 years passes on the outside. Travels to planet inhabited by giant benign sky-creature, investigates colony on planet for shenanigans. Very good.
>>707724327
The Worthing Saga by Orson Scott Card.
It is a science fiction novel, but it incorporates fantasy elements extremely well.
Also Hyperion by Dan Simmons. Easily my favorite Sci-Fi novel. Told in the form of Canterbury tales, the novel tells the stories of pilgrims going to the planet Hyperion, where they hope to find salvation.
>>707735755
you haven't read comedy sci-fi if you haven't read the HGTTG
>>707736169
It's way different than anything I've read, my description does it little justice. There's stuff like a captain of a space ship getting infected with a plague that basically turns him into a parasite that melds his body into parts of the ship and he haunts the ship and can control it. Another story of a man who commits mass genocide by jettisoning cryo pods full of thousands of people so his exploratory ship will teach a new planet first so he can claim it as his own. The real scientific aspects that he incorporates is what makes it great. He also gets into theoretical near light speed travel and explains how it would work in great details.
>>707737063
Their first mistake was to put urine so early on in the novel. Whatever happens first sets the mood for the rest, so I expected a lot of shit and piss moments, which thankfully never came.
They could have set up the world differently in the beginning. I don't mind but I almost gave up on it, and I virtually never give up on a book.
>>707735868
Hva you ever read it? read it and then post back.
Stephen Donaldson: The Gap Series
In order if anyone was interested:
The Gap into Conflict: The Real Story, Bantam/Spectra, 1990
The Gap into Vision: Forbidden Knowledge, Bantam/Spectra, 1991
The Gap into Power: A Dark and Hungry God Arises, Bantam/Spectra, 1992
The Gap into Madness: Chaos and Order, Bantam/Spectra, 1994
The Gap into Ruin: This Day All Gods Die, Bantam/Spectra, 1996
Tim powers
Anubis gate (ancient egypt, gods, London , magic, time traveller)
Strange tides (caribic, pirates, voodoo)
The stress of her regard ( vampire, byron, gothic horror)
Last call ( tarot cards , ancien gods, imortality)
Etc
>>707737181
This may be true. I'm OP and I first came here in 2008.
Nowadays /b/ is porn central. But it's only up to us to start different sorts of threads. I opened 2 threads tonight and both are over 200 posts and doing great. You only have to do it.
>>707737215
>Travels to planet inhabited by giant benign sky-creature,
Made me diamonds.
>>707737637
>science fiction
>>707724327
Revelation Space starts off with three seemingly unrelated narrative strands that merge as the novel progresses. This plot structure is characteristic of many of Reynolds's works.
The first strand centres around Dan Sylveste, beginning in the year 2551. Sylveste is an archaeologist excavating the remains of the long-dead Amarantin race. Over the course of decades, Sylveste learns that the Amarantin may have become technologically sophisticated before their sun destroyed life on the planet Resurgam nearly a million years prior.
The next strand centres around Ilia Volyova aboard the Nostalgia for Infinity, a large ship capable of interstellar travel. Volyova and the other members of her skeleton crew wish to find Sylveste because they believe he can help them with their captain, who has been infected with the Melding Plague, a nanotech virus that attacks human cells and machine implants to pervert them into grotesque combinations.
The third strand focuses on Ana Khouri, an assassin living on the planet Yellowstone (in the Epsilon Eridani system). Khouri is hired by a mysterious figure known as the Mademoiselle to assassinate Sylveste.
>>707737355
>you haven't read comedy sci-fi if you haven't read the HGTTG
Certainly. I don't like comedy.
>>707737550
I was just curious about what you liked in his writing is all.
>>707730645
I don't know why but I fucking loved this book. In a world where privacy is vanishing rapidly, the central ideas in this book may be our own little peak into the future.
>>707735785
It sure is, read it myself like 20 years ago by mistake. Have reread it several times over the years.
Whenever i do not know what todo or what to read i read the Foundation trilogy and sequels.
>>707736005
>>707737805
my negro
Re: Colonised Planet 5, Shikasta: Canopus in Argos Archives - Doris Lessing
You've probably never heard of it, it's pretty weird sci-fi but it counts. She won the Nobel prize for literature, though not for this. Has a fuckton of awards for various stuff.
>>707736922
well if you don't want to read the robots series(which would be the collection "the complete robot" and the 2 novels The Caves of Steel and The Naked Sun) you would start with the galactic empire series ( Pebble in the Sky, The Stars, Like Dust and The Currents of Space )which go in reveres chronology btw. then onto the foundation series which has the 3 main books or Foundation trilogy and 2 prequels and 2 sequels. Nightfall is also a good read.
>>707736922
i'll also add The End of Eternity to that reading list. It isn't technically part of the foundation series but does tie in in some regard
>>707737764
The creature doesn't really talk or do anything, but it's MYSTERIOUS
>>707737550
no reason to be hostile to a legitimate question.
>>707737550
I actually dislike Asimov's writing style. He expounds on every detail to the point that it almost becomes hard to read. I appreciate the works of Foundation and the Robot series, but it was painful for me to read through Foundation.
>>707737767
Steam Punk is sciences fiction...
That remember me: Jule Vernes one of the earliest sf-writer ( fly to the moon, journey to the center if the earth, captain Nemo's nautilus. ..)
>>707738138
I dig it already.
>>707737825
can't force you to have fun.
>>707738193
>That remember me:
>reminds
It reminds you, anon. What's your first language?
>>707738236
I don't have as much fun if I don't get immersed. That's why I can never really get into comedy. Especially in books. Smug jokes and stuff don't make me diamonds. Especially if it's British fedora humor.
Does anyone have a recommendation for a site like My Anime List but for novels? It's hard to keep track of what I want to read.
>>707730488
>what could be
nigga thats just a shitty explanation. if i told you i build a time machine i get put in the nut house
if i told you i could summon demons id be put in the nuthouse.
scinence has nothing to do woth that, jusz because we can comprehend stuff like electricity better than say lay fields, it doed not make it plausible at fucking all. tale star trek for example. they litteraly call it "techno babble" meaning nonsensical shit that should explain stuff bit is not at all coherent in any way shape or form. sci fi is just fantasy with techno babble. thats all.
>muh jules verne predicted spacecrafts
and platon predicted waifus whats your shitty point
>>707738269
French
never learned english in school ...
>>707733893
I love this book. Every once in a while I will just read it again. Most accurate book about military life IMO.
>>707738387
>if i told you i build a time machine i get put in the nut house
>if i told you i could summon demons id be put in the nuthouse.
Nobody claims either when they write a sci-fi novel or a fantasy novel. Both are fiction. You're missing the point.
> sci fi is just fantasy with techno babble. thats all.
They both originated as the same thing, you're right in that, but at some point, actual science was used to write sci-fi and it became something else.
>>707738387
yes im on spice call the cops
>srsly count the type-o´s and win a free treky uniform
>>707738508
I suspected as much. Mais ne t'inquiète pas, mon cher anon, je suis suisse et je sais que les français ne sont génétiquement pas faits pour apprendre l'anglais. Probably got it from getting beaten by the Brits during your Napoleon time.
Don't give up, read a lot, it'll help.
>I'm an English teacher
>>707737906
ignore that faggot. That wasn't me.
Not a single mention of Charles Stross?
Accelerando is a short story collection (sorry, not a novel) about the technological singularity. It starts off as near-future modern cyberpunk and turnes into space opera.
His other works are great and highly regarded as well, e.g. Singularity Sky & Iron Sunrise.
Harlan Ellison-I have no mouth and I must scream
>>707738367
>Smug jokes
>British fedora humor
there you go again...
i can't talk to anti-intellectuals. have a nice day.
>>707738572
for me most sci fi shit is just "whoaaa dude what if.........."
and believe me i have listened to enough conspiracys and stoned philosophy majors. it gets old fast. there are exceptions like Stanislaw Lem who is just plain funny. but crime novels have more basis in science than your rama and your enders games. sci fi realy is just a projection of what ppl want the futur to be and most ppl want it to be KEWL and not at all realistic. you know how the jetsons predicted the 2000s. thats the shit im talking about. its either "woaaaa dude" or madmax
>>707738689
Une longue histoire entre l Angleterre et la France (Hassliebe ) ... long before Napoléon, would say Guillaume the conqueror. ..
>>707739041
>i can't talk to anti-intellectuals. have a nice day.
Anti-intellectuals are people who don't like discussing intelligently.
If speaking my opinion irritates you this much, I am sorry. I am an intellectual, you know, professionally speaking, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with you on everything.
Not agreeing with you doesn't make anyone an anti-intellectual.
![chasm_city_by_lepidact[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/u1QnuIJ.jpg "chasm_city_by_lepidact[1].jpg")
>>707729724
Especially "Chasm City" from the same trilogy.
Hard-ish SciFi with a very ShadowRun-ny feel plus interstellar travel.
>>707738519
>Most accurate book about military life IMO
Ever read The Black Company?
This book & series is a real mindfuck
tho one of the coolest sci fi books i have read
>>707739486
ofc i forget the picture
The best
>>707738934
>Accelerando
Yeah, I liked that a lot.
>>707739168
>but crime novels have more basis in science than your rama and your enders games.
I get your point, but Rama is filled with actual science. Clarke is the guy who came up with geostationary satellites, for instance. Card is no scientist and you don't really find science in his book, not that it matters, but it's not fair to compare Clarke to Card in the science department.
>sci fi realy is just a projection of what ppl want the futur to be and most ppl want it to be KEWL and not at all realistic.
There's more sci-fi about what people fear the future may become. You're not quite right on that one.
Anyway, we needed a more precise definition to separate fantasy from sci-fi and you got it. Both books are sold in the same department at the store, you'll notice.
>>707725134
only sadness and tears are contained in this book.
>>707739561
All of The Culture series, agreed.
>>707739668
Pretty much. I came to it because I'm a huge Evangelion sucker.
>>707728648
This. True. Fucking horrible.
>>707739624
>Anyway, we needed a more precise definition to separate fantasy from sci-fi
Although they're blurred a lot, a lot of writers call sci-fi Speculative Fiction. They often begin from the premise that some idea is possible and then follow that to wherever.
So yeah, maybe you guys know this book i'm thinking about i read it once as a teenager and lost the fucking thing in a move, it was a prequel to another series and it had an alien sent to earth to monitor it who had the power of premonition and he traveled around with a cleric girl and a bodyguard he hired after the dude tried to rob him, anyway the girl sees some kind of invasion coming so he prepares the two of htem with the means to help humanity later on and they trael around the world it was a great book cant remember the fucking name though
>>707737637
Anubis gate is a classic
>>707739754
My kind of anon. I'd rim your asshole if I were a homo, I would.
>>707739624
Would say that Startrek is sf and Star wars is fantasy...
>>707726563
didn't read this book for years because of the movie, only read it for a laugh.
was pleasantly suprised.
>>707739836
I don't know it, but I'll bump for support.
>>707739836
plz
The author Harry Harrison is very underrated. Stainless Steel Rat is in my top 5 series.
>>707739529
Lol i dont think i could describe these books if i tried, they are just on a whole other level
>>707739673
Inversions is probably my favourite, but player of games was the first one I read
This is one of the best books i've ever read. it's about a catholic monk in a post nuclear war america
>>707739999
>Would say that Startrek is sf and Star wars is fantasy...
QUADS
Star Wars has so much shit all over the place: history, medieval literature (sword fights and severed hands are all straight from European medievial literature); sci-fi is just one element, but it never really quite focuses on technology per se. I call it fantasy science-fiction.
>>707739317
judging a book you haven't read and insulting its incredibly vast readership is pretty low for an "intellectual".
>>707740131
I loved this, is it still available?
I read them about 35 years ago
>>707740131
>The author Harry Harrison is very underrated.
Probably because his name sounds like a clown's name. I can't get over it.
>Sam Samison
>John Johnson
>Pat Patrickson
>Henry Henrickson
>William Williamson
>>707740195
I believe the term for that is space opera.
>>707740175
>>707735400
I think the issue would be budget/time needed in order to create adaptions that are true to the book.
Not enough budget and it goes under, too much time and it goes under.
>>707740274
My Dad gave me his original paperbacks I have the entire series. I read them 2 years ago when I was 17. They should still be around for purchase I think.
>>707725134
Awesome choice anon
This book so so damn crazy it would be impossible to explain it
>>707740295
I don't disagree, but if I could get you to read any series it would be the Stainless Steel Rat.
>>707740369
They said the same about Dune...
>>707739561
This.
And Excession, too.
And the rest as well.
You're sorrowly missed, Mr. Iain Banks.
>>707740246
>judging a book you haven't read and insulting its incredibly vast readership is pretty low for an "intellectual".
You seem to have reading issues. I said, clearly, that I never tried to read because I thought it was edgy fedora jokes. When I say that, I make it clear that I haven't read it, and that, therefore, I'm not judging it. I'm only telling you why I never read it; up to you to tell me I'm wrong and why.
As to insulting its readership, the fuck do I care? Nobody intellectual would feel insulted by my sharing of an impression I got from quotes and memes, right?
Actual intellectuals don't cower from expressing unpopular opinions because large groups of people won't like said opinions.
You confuse intellectual with "hipster".
You really don't make me want to read that book with that attitude of yours.
>>707740407
Your dad is a good man. They were put into comic form in 2000AD,not all of them from memory.
I love the one were he breaks into the tax office. I should try to find them
>>707740519
and yet its a fucking masterpiece of science fiction, political intrigue, military strategy and religion all rolled into one fucking book
>>707740552
how the hell you you even make dune a movie. so much of it takes place in the heads of the characters.
>>707740521
Give me a synopsis.
>>707724416
What he said.
My favourite book ever.
I also like almost all Heinlein. Starship Troopers (the novel) is beautiful.
>>707740675
>sand people have precious black oily substance that everyone needs
>they get filthy rich because of it and have a fucked up religion
I need my sci-fi farther away from reality.
The Vorkosigan Saga is great, Cryoburn is towards the end of the saga.
In the distant future, a young man born a cripple tries to follow a military career in the footsteps of his father & grandfather. Does so via TECHNOLOGY and SCHENANIGANS. Involves galactic colonization, space empires, space Russia, death rays, wormholes, mercenaries, and space battles.
>>707724416
>and has a huge expanded universe
But everyone hates the expanded universe.
>>707740688
put a voice over on in post, they did this in the movie and it just seemed silly.
>>707724327
Racist South Africans time travel back to the civil war and give the South 10,000 AK-47s. Author doesn't fuck around and gets right to it. When the ahit hits the fan at the end, it's totally worth it.
>>707740808
>he thinks its that simple
>>707740688
I think the Serie was better then the movie from D. Lynch (but I love the soundtrack from Queen)
>>707740641
I had no clue they were made into a comic. Now I have something to buy. He also gave me all his Original Ringworld, Dune, Enders Game etc etc books. I haven't seen too many in this thread I have yet to read.
>>707739317
let's agree to dislike each other.
>>707727337
Surprised anyone brought this one up
>>707739624
>>707740519
here is a bastard child of your so called "Science" fiction. like mindaltering drugs that basically give you magic? thats not sci fi telepaths are not sci fi. there is no such thing as telepathy. thats like claiming necromancy is a thing.
i repeat myself here but all the books postet here. from what i can gather through plot synapsis on wiki. are works of pure imagination. FANTASY if you will
>>707734020
With the exception of Micro just about everything he wrote was great. Especially considering how long ago he wrote them.
>>707727269
Getting to be more and more accurate as time goes on
>>707740701
Set in the future
Guy is a criminal (rat)
Has to be a super criminal I.E. (Stainless Steel Rat) since cops have so much technology
Goes on adventures and saves the day
Really interesting plot in each book
Is not a boring read
IMO great read worth the time
>>707724327
Ruined star wars for me, George Lucas stole many elements from this series
have some cheesy sci fi metal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkRl84KdHcU
>>707740972
It's not that simple in our world either.
I saw the movie ages ago, and I sure hope it's not just some massive allegory.
I read some of the metabarons stuff, heavily inspired by Dune, as comics, and that shit is fucking sweet as fuck.
I spent a whole afternoon reading that from a thread where anon was posting the whole damn thing.
>>707740942
Holy fuck
>>707724327
When I see threads like this, I think a Hollywood executive if trolling for movie Ideas. Maybe if these fucks would make original content they wouldn't be hurting so bad at the box office
>>707740993
Good luck finding them. Forbidden planet is/was the publisher.
Did he give you make room, make room?
>>707737906
Its like the Edward Gibbon series of the rise and fall of Rome. Damn i read that series when i was young and i was so puzzled by the old roman emperors.
Asimovs Foundations series is the same style although it takes place in a far future. Man has left earth, wars has been fought, averyone has forgotten about earth except Golan Trevise and Janov Pelorat and Golan is mostly unknowing.
The references to the old spacer worlds or the first humans going to space against the humans staying on earth. The spacers won but the humans conquered the galaxy.
The visit to the old (hostile) spacer worlds like +30000 years after the human-spacer wars, old (robotic) heroes like Elijah Baley or Daneel Oliwav as he was called 30000 years after.
Worlds evolving without contact turned hostile, our heroes prevailing against psycho beings, our heroes prevailing against the force of technology, our heroes prevailing against worlds turned evil.
The 30000 year galactic empire falling and falling down hard, local emperors fighting a futile war against the unarmed foundaton, the last general of the old falling empire, general Bel Riose fighting the Foundation and loosing. The local warlords loosing aginst technology and religion ...
>>707741128
Dune was basically Lord of the Rings in space.
Jack Vance, Demon Princes Series (5 books).
Taking revenge, in elaborate ways, for massacring the colony he lived in as a kid.
But really most by Jack Vance is great. Also his fantasy stories, all written before it became the fad fantasy currently is.
>>707741382
It's worth a read. I borrowed it years ago, and finally bought my own copy last week.
>>707741217
>Guy is a criminal (rat)
I think you won already.
>>707741468
but with space drugs and philosophy
>>707741361
>metabarons
Giminez is good..
or moebius with jorodowsky: the incal story)
>>707741429
No but there are about 60 books I have not gotten to read yet. So its possible I may have them somewhere. Deathworld was fantastic as well!
>>707741548
I couldn't stand reading Dune, I felt like it was one of those books everybody said was good but didn't read .
>>707741403
They should make more Judge Dredd directed by Pete Travis
>>707741496
I am going to buy that, it sounds great.
>>707741468
Wut????
>>707741514
Thanks desu
>>707741361
Nobody said it is.
The movie is shit, the original 4 is an experience on its own, with the other two added for some interesting tidbits.
Dune is like a dozen layers of entirely different intrigue, all working together and filling eachother out perfectly.
The most amazing thing about it is that it exists, because really you would expect those layers to just fail, dead end, cause contradictions and plotholes, but they don't, atleast looking at the first 4 as a whole.
>>707741318
ill pass
