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Hey, anos is any christian here?

Can you do me a favor? Pray for me, please. My life is fucked and get worse every time.

All my projects are failing and I'm feeling very sad and lonely. This year also had "paranormal" experiencies with demons tormenting me.

I also think I can be with some sort of plague or curse, can I know that in some way?

Please, pray for me.
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>>707649665
*anons
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Will do anon.
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consider it done
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I shall pray to my elder gods and Lucifer himself for your worse being.
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>>707649665
I just prayed to my lord the Flying Spaghetti Monster himself for you. Hope things turn out better soon anon.
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>>707650636
so edgy
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>>707649952
>>707650252
Thank you!
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>>707649665
You don't need God you need science. Go see a medical professional.
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>>707651189
If you don't belive in God, it's your opinion.
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>>707651420
It's not that I don't believe in god it's that there is no god. Like no santa or batman or tooth fairy. And it sounds like you are miserable and need help. Hope you get it
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>>707652012
8th grade treating you well?
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>>707649665
I will pray to our eternal lord and savior, Adolf Hitler, that no kike kabbalah magic will prevail against you . SEIG HEIL
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>>707649665
Alright OP will do, best of luck with life.
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>>707649665
i'll do 3 latin hail maries and one latin Pater Noster for ya.
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>>707652460
Thank you!

>>707652890
What is that?
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It's...ave MarĂ­a and padre nuestro you stupid
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>>707652955
Ave Maria, gratia plena
Dominus tecum
benedicta tu in mulieribus et
beneductus fructus ventris tui, Iesus.

Sancta Maria, Mater Dei,
ora pro nos peccatoribus
nunc et in hora mortis nostrae.

Amen

x3

Pater noster qui es in caeli
sanctificetur nomen Tuum
adveniat regnum Tuum
sicut in caelo et in terram
panem nostrum cotidianum da nobis hodie
et dimitte nobis debitora nostra
sicut et nos dimittimus debitoribus nostris
et ne nos inducas in tentationem
sed libera nos a malo.

Amen.
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>>707653334
Ok, english is not my first language. Thank you.
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>>707649665
God be with you.
I've had some troubles myself.
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>>707652208
You believe in invisible man in the sky that no one has any proof exists or existed and I'm the 8th grader hmmm.
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I pray too and I am feeling better. Maybe be psychological but it works!

Actually I do belive that pray works and God helped me.
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Mummy is waiting for you.

Live 24/7 stream where people all over the world prays at the same time.

http://www.comepraytherosary.org
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>>707654140
>http://www.comepraytherosary.org
I not catholic but thank you! I will enter this site.
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>>707649665
personally I think you need to stop blaming ghosts for your problems.

but If it'll make you happy I'll go burn some rosemary on one of the tor's for you, and maybe the Wights'll help.

You might want to get your hands on some worry dolls, probably a dam sight cheaper then therapy
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>>707654688
You are christian?
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>>707649665
Jesus is real. He loves you. And he will help you. Jesus came not to condemn, but to save and to offer rest.

Seek Him with all your heart, and you will find Him.

He has changed my life, and I pray the same for you, anon.
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>>707655301
Thank you!

Do I have to pray every that? I mean, supposing that a demon it's trying to harm me they can come back? The curse is already canceled?
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>>707655949
*every day
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>>707655949
1st... if you are a Christian (that is if you embrace Jesus as your God) then demons cannot harm you. They can try. But just cry out to Jesus and you will be safe.

2nd... As a Christian, you don't "have" to to anything. Christians are saved by Jesus' blood shed on the Cross --- not by good works or deeds. BUT! It is so powerful and helpful to your spiritual walk if you will read your Bible and pray (as Paul said) "without ceasing." In other words, pray all the time. Tell Jesus you want to know Him better, and He will reveal Himself to you.
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>>707656608
>then demons cannot harm you. They can try
And if I'm sinning? I think the fact that I go out with prostitutes gave opening to this.

Thank for the pray.
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>>707655949
By the way... to pray you don't need any magic words or fancy religious talk. Jesus will meet you where you are. By that I mean you can talk to Him like a friend. Like a real guy... because He IS a real guy.

When He walked on the Earth, He had all the same experiences you and I have. He skinned his knees. He got dust in His eyes. He laughed and He wept. He's a real guy, and you can talk to Him as a real friend... not some SuperGodInTheSky or whatever.
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>>707657263
I always pray like a conversation.
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>>707657082
Jesus loves sinners! He was nicer to sinners and prostitutes than He was to the super-religious hypocrites.

So confess your sins and put them aside like filthy rags. Seek Jesus and He will make you clean.
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>>707657648
>>707657648
>So confess your sins and put them aside like filthy rags. Seek Jesus and He will make you clean.
I already have that. Thank you.
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>>707657877
Awesome! Do you have a Bible, anon? Or do you read it online?

I particularly like the books written by John:
http://biblehub.com/nlt/1_john/1.htm
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>>707658618
I have a Bible. I read it sometimes.
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Sucks to suck hope you trip and step on a lego
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>>707657877
>>707657648
>>707657082
>>707655301
>>707655949
Having sex with prostitutes can open you up to demonic influence, there is a specific name for it but I can't remember. Something about spiritual transference.

Anyways, there is actually a specific bible verse about this Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.

Anyways, given the way you've continued to reply I think you aren't trolling. Do not take these things lightly, it will be very difficult if you don't have any christian friends who are actually grounded in the faith and have the holy spirit.

Pray to God right now, first, that you ask for his forgiveness that he offers through Jesus Christ, the atonement for ALL of your sins and wrongdoings.

Then, ask him to have mercy upon you, and that his Holy Spirit would cleanse you from filth, and continue praying. If you know the scriptures, pray the scriptures.

Bless you anon, and I hope we will meet some day. only other advice I can give is don't get into cults (catholics, Jehovas witnesses, 7th adventists, pentecostalists)

don't get into denominations with false doctrines either (episcopalians, unitarians)

the best denominations in regards to their doctrine being correct I am aware of are the Christian Missionary Alliance, Church of the Nazarene, Church of the Brethren

Assemblies of God churches can be hit or miss

Now remember, you DO NOT have to attend church to be saved, but it isn't ideal to live this life alone. Also, i am telling you this because I highly recommend you seek out help from someone who truly knows god, demonic activity is not something to be fucking with, i've had it happen to me
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>>707657082
>>707649665
>>707658845

Also OP to tell you my story summed up, I had a porn addiction and still fight it to this day, but I basically only fap to soft porn now

I started browsing /b/ in 2011 if that puts things into perspective. the more hardcore the porn came, the more desensitized I was. However, I didn't have attacks from demons until after I was saved, and then this was willful sin, rather than ignorant sin
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>>707650636

Super gay.
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>>707649665
I am catholic. I will not pray for anyone. My thoughts won't help. God won't get off his cloud to fix your problem. Deal with it.
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>>707659524
>willful
I had made a deal with God, who would stop going out with prostitutes and not stick. And I think a guy occultist cursed me too. I had some paranormal experiences as my phone flying close to me and since then my life has just gone wrong.
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>>707660326
Listen anon. Put all that stuff behind you. Grab on to Jesus with all your might. You'll be amazed how He can change your life in all kinds of unexpected ways.
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>>707661247
Do you have the holy spirit?
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BUMP
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>>707661978
Yes. But that doesn't mean I have super powers or anything like that...

The Holy Spirit helps to keep you on the right path. He helps to encourage you.

Oh, and demons cannot hurt you if you're indwelled by the Holy Spirit.
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Nope.
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>>707662303
The Holy Spirit also helps you to grow in Faith.

Think about all the Christians who are tortured and killed by ISIS -- they need HUGE amounts of courage and faith to sustain them and keep them strong. The Holy Spirit is the One who provides that strength and courage.
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>>707662303
Oh I'm not OP, I'm a christian as well

but now that you say that, I have to ask someone

I don't understand how the spiritual gifts work? I know they aren't superpowers, and I don't quite believe the standpoint that you have to speak in tongues (otherwise paul would never have asked Do all speak in tongues?)

but I don't understand how after 3 years of being christian and having the holy spirit I have nothing. Is it because I continue to sin? I imagine we are not so different considering where we are posting right now
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>>707649665
>see this thread
>im an atheist but i thought this was cool to see
>enlarge thread
>edgey fedora atheists everywhere

Why are religious people nicer than atheists?
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>>707662761
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>>707662865
>thinking this is bait
First day?
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>>707662465
This is wrong. God hates nobody. He occasionally has to clean up all the damage done by evil people and demons. But He doesn't "Hate" anyone.

He desires that all, all, ALL will seek Him. If they do, He will welcome them.
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We're always here
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>>707662761
>Why are religious people nicer than atheists?

Because they're not living in reality. Sometimes you just wanna smack the shit out of some people for believing the stupid shit they eat, or worse, have shoved up their ass by a priest
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>>707662610
now I feel like an asshole for asking >>707662703

i am so used to living here in the States, I constantly forget the rest of the world is a shithole
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>>707649665
yea
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>>707655301
This.
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>>707649665

How about you tell me a bit about yourself and instead of just asking for prayers like a moron who waits for things to magically happen, I can have a talk with you to try to see if I can do anything to help you?


Let's start. How long have you felt like this?
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>>707649665
faggot
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>>707662703
>and how the spiritual gifts work? I know they aren't superpowers, and I don't quite believe the standpoint that you have to speak in tongues (otherwise paul would never have asked Do all speak in tongues?)
>but I don't understand how after 3 years of being
Sin is the big soul crusher. It is an obstacle between us and God. But it's not insurmountable. He will forgive, and then it's our responsibility to stand up and BE the men who we are supposed to be. The Bible calls us "Saints." We should strive to act that way.

We should pursue Holiness with all our hearts. And the rest will follow.

The gifts develop over time.
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>>707663578
Hey man. Try reading the thread. You're very late to this.
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>>707649665
>"I will pray for you"
so what you want us to sit at home and do nothing? because that is what praying is, sitting at home doing nothing
>"I will keep you in my thoughts"
nah I know the type of stuff you be thinking about and I don't want to be anywhere near that so keep me out of your thoughts, with all that other bullshit in your head
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>>707649665
This is /b/ not a church. Religion is the crutch of losers. Grow some balls and handle your shit. Don't be an ignorant, brainless religifag.
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>>707663281
No worries man. I've found that when I'm weak in faith, I can look at all those who've gone before... They inspire me, because I can see how God used their personal tragedy/trials for good.

If you spend time thinking about it... it will strengthen your faith like nothing else.
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>>707663915

No I'm not. He can start all over if he truly needs help. I'm here trying to actually engage in rational conversation as opposed to just "praying".


The thing with prayers is that people say they will pray so that when the thing they pray for is realized by the hard work of other people, the people who sent prayers can pat themselves on the back and feel like they did something good, feel like they were a part of it.

It is absolute bullshit.
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>>707662761
It's easy to hate.
It's easy to be edgy.
It's easy to ridicule.
It's easy to lie.

It's hard to love.
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>"Jesus" was an Arab. From Palestine.
>"Jesus" isn't an Arabic name.
>During CE, there have been several people claiming to be more than what they really are, ie "son of God".
>They were really nothing more than the civil rights leaders of their time.
>They were all made examples of by the king for speaking out against him and his rule.
>Messiahs are stupid.


There is only God and only God can help you.
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>>707664798
There is no proof of your god.
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>>707664635
>It's hard to love.
it actually is not. it just begins with understanding
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Better days OP, in Jesus' name.
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>>707664798
>The "virgin" Mary, whose real name isn't Mary, cheated on "Joseph" and got away with it because of the superstitions of the time.
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>>707664994
There is no disprove of it either.

And God is God no matter what the many religious interpretations of it say.
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>>707664611
You still haven't read the thread. This wasn't JUST about prayer.

You claim Christians are short-sighted and stupid and intolerant and whatever else...

Then you barge in and make a fool of yourself by clearly doing all of those things yourself.
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Please don't let anon be an hero
Even though he wants to
Please let him know you love him
Help him with all of his future endeavors
Amen
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>>707665040
Jesus was a just one of many men with a god complex wandering around. He was nothing special.
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>>707665318

No I haven't. And why would I?
OP can do a whole lot more without any religious talk.

I only made one of those claims. The middle one. And even then, I merely implied it. I don't think I outright claimed it.
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>>707665264
God is not god. You can provide no proof. Your belief system is a messed up fairy tale.
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I'm not saying this to try to be edgy, but you are legitimately a faggot OP.
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>>707665715
We're not gonna get into that argument over evidence and lack thereof.
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>>707664798
>>707664994
>>707665517

It's drop-dead simple to prove that God (and Jesus) are exactly who they said they are.

The problem is that people who demand proof are almost never willing to accept evidence, even when it's staring them in the face.
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>>707665701
>And why would I?

Perhaps to thwart your blatant ignorance?

Perhaps to see if the problem had already been solved?
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>>707649665
Done

Prayed for you to have a prosperous life and no more paranormal occurrences

Have a good life anon
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>>707666147

You guys solved a problem with prayers, huh? Well isn't that a first.

Good for you. And rich of you for daring to speak about ignorance. Your entire set of beliefs is nothing more than that.
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>>707665912
So you're just gonna spew bullshit then as if it's something other than bullshit. Dress it up however you want but it's still bullshit and you're nothing more than an ignorant charltan.
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>>707665919
Stop deflecting and provide the proof then.
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>>707665919
Jesus is not God. Only God is God. Why is "Jesus" God? Who said he was and why should you believe it?
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>>707666357
No. It happens every day all over the world. Just because it's not on CNN doesn't mean it's not happening.

I'll leave it to others who read this thread to judge for themselves who is displaying ignorance, judgment, and intolerance.
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>>707666392
Look. I know where you want to go with this but it will not go anywhere. You know I can't provide proof, I know you can't provide lack of proof. Its bullshit one way or the other anyhow.
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>>707666642
Without proof, god is just a construct and religion nothing more than the musings of demented individuals.
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>>707666642
>>707666490
Have you ever heard of Thomas the Apostle in India?

He was murdered for his Christian faith in 72 ce. About 35-40 years after Jesus' crucifixion.

Do you know Thomas' story?
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>>707666218
Thank you! I going to sleep know.

Thank for all the prayers.
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>>707666853
Then quit pawning off your "god" as if it has value.
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>>707667172
*now
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>>707666770

It happens all over the world by the hard work of other people. I love how you all conveniently ignored the point of my comment >>707664611 and you personally focus on what was not important about it.

Go ahead and go. You're guilty of judging displaying ignorance yourself. I'll even go as far as saying you're intolerant also since several comments here seem to have made you want to leave.
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>>707667115
That's proof of nothing.
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>>707649665
I am not a very good Christian (goes without saying if I'm on /b/), but I'll pray for you. Wouldn't hurt for you to show up at church next Sunday. Doesn't matter if you don't have one, pick any church. Maybe it will be a boring waste of time, or maybe it's time for something to change. I say a lot of foul shit on /b/, but maybe I'm doing some good here for a change. Probably not, but you never know.

Either way I hope things work out for you. Except for the furries we're all /b/ros here.
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Goodness /b/ has changed.
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>>707654114
>hmmm
I dont belive in god either, but you are in 8th grade.
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>>707667306
Why? Your religion is nothing but fairy tales.
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>>707667172
You're welcome, OP. God's blessings and love to you.
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>>707667458
Your god is a construct. Doesn't exist.
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>>707651420
I believe in god, but OP is right. Talking to a professional will help you a lot.
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>>707654114
yes you are the 8th grader. You are taking a man, who came here seeking spiritual help, and are kicking him while he's down. Stop being so religious with your atheism and help a man out.
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>>707649665
Will do. What is your "name" anon. Nickname would be fine
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>>707654460
catholic, protestant, same God. We should be open to seek spiritual guidance from both our protestant and catholic brothers and sisters.
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>>707652012
No batman? Waaaaahhhh :(. ...
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>>707666965
I'm not arguing for religion, I'm arguing for God. So many interpretations of it amkes all religions shit.

>>707667115
>Thomas the Apostle
Is this you telling me you believe in what you believe in because another crazy old man, mortal, said some things? to reassure you of your faith in the religions interpretation called Christianity?

>>707667202
My God is the same God everyone else believes in. They just dont realize that because of the interpretation theyve chosen to follow. Someone elses
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>>707667115
>>707667290
Do you know his story?

He's so-called "doubting Thomas."

[1] He told the other disciples that he absolutely WOULD NOT believe that Jesus had risen from the dead unless he could put his fingers in the wounds.

[2] Jesus said, Here... touch the wounds for yourself. It is me. I'm alive.

[3] Thomas said, "My Lord and My God!"

[4] Then do you know what Thomas did? He walked. Yes. Walked to INDIA! From Jerusalem. Once in India, he created a Christian church.

[5] That Christian church is still in operation to this day, and they have records going back to Thomas, the apostle.

[6] In 72ce, Thomas was murdered because he would not deny his faith in Jesus.

NOW LET ME ASK YOU.... Why would a man who swore he would NOT believe do all of those things unless he'd seen the actual, true, risen Christ?
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>>707655301
Since Jesus was a liberal, why are so many evangelicals voting for Trump?
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>>707660148
Dead faith, brother?
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>>707668416

CHECK MATE!
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>>707668315
That is not proof. People in cults believe what isn't real all the time. You are a perfect example.
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>>707659524
>>707658845
the goal of the faith is not to fight demons, or to be holier than thou, but to have an intimate relationship with god.
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>>707668416
Jesus proved many times that He couldn't be confined to simple-minded politics. I doubt He would be voting for either of these horrific candidates.
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>>707668416
Because they don't really believe in God. They believe in what their holy book tells them. They believe in what the so called "apostles" said was right to believe. They believe in stories written by other men.

I can write something claiming it was what God wanted me and others to do and people who have nothing in life will believe it because it is all they have.
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>>707668726
What if there is no god?
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>>707660326
most paranormal phenomena can be explained away. I don't believe that demons have ANY power on earth at all, as only if God allows it, could they do anything to you.

Don't make deals with God. Just try to do your best, and when you fail, admit it to God and he will forgive you. God is a God of mercy and grace.
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>>707668894
Do you believe in extra terrestrials?
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>>707665264
There is no proof! And circular arguments along with other logical fallacies will not get you to evidence either. It's woo. Just woo.
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>>707649665
I'm completely serious.

Eat your brocolli. Eat tons of it.

Also, stop being so squeamish and pathetic with women. They aren't your friends. They are necessary.
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The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

John 10:33

Mark 14

61But he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed? 62And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. 63Then the high priest rent his clothes, and saith, What need we any further witnesses? 64Ye have heard the blasphemy: what think ye? And they all condemned him to be guilty of death. 65And some began to spit on him, and to cover his face, and to buffet him, and to say unto him, Prophesy: and the servants did strike him with the palms of their hands.
Don't worry if you don't believe. The story is not over yet.
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>>707668993
I never said there was any. :P
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>>707668574
Study it out for yourself.
Be fair.
Be logical.
Above all, be honest with yourself.

Thomas' life is reasonable proof that Jesus is exactly who He said He is.

[1] Nobody would WALK from Jerusalem to India to create a church for a man that they KNEW was a fraud.

[2] Nobody would allow themselves to be murdered for a faith that they KNEW was a fraud.

Thomas' church exists to this day. You can go there and see it for yourself.
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>>707662703
The spiritual gifts are simply put, gifts of the spirit to help spread the word and help you grow in the spirit.
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>>707668915
How do you know this? You have no idea your so called god even exists. One could say you spread nothing but falsehoods and there is no proof they are wrong.
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>>707669014
Why eat broccoli?
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>>707669088
And your point is?
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>>707669165
"Jesus" was a magician of his time. Played people by their superstitions. If you lived in that time and people saw some shit you can bet they'll walk to India.

I bet you guys believe in the whole virgin Mary story too lols
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>>707662761
Because Religious people feel whole. Atheists have a void in their soul and try to hide it with bad attitude.

To quote Scat-man John: "Everybody's talkin' something very shockin' just to
Keep on blockin' what they're feelin' inside
But listen to me brother, you just keep on walkin' 'cause
You and me and sister ain't got nothin' to hide"

Simply put, the spiritual are more free than the atheistic, delusional or not.
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>>707668185
No. Not at all. There are millions of "proofs" but skeptics refuse to see what's right in front of their faces.
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>>707669165
The musings of a crazy man is not proof. That you would seriously offer that as proof only underscores the depths of your own delusion.
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>>707669298
"Don't worry if you don't believe. The story is not over yet."

that isn't part of the passage.

thats just a statement i meant to add separately.

Jesus will return soon, all the prophecies in the book of revelation are coming to pass, wont be long now.. the road ahead is tough, hang on for the ride.
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>>707663957
>>707664148
Don't beat a man while he is down.
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>>707669431
Uhm no. The religious are chained to their delusions and see very little while those who've thrown off religion see the full measure of the world in all it's varied glory.
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>>707649665
I will. Just remember that life is only one part of our existence. Even if everything goes down the drain, if you truly are saved then you have so much more to look forward to, not to mention the joy you can still get from life.
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>>707665002
so you would understand that beating a man while he is down is cruel? If you are one of the atheist-fags who has been doing this, then GTFO!
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>>707667892
Because he doesn't need "spiritual" help he needs medication and exercise and a good diet.

This God and prophets thing is a little ridiculous
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>>707669447
They are no proofs that are verifiable, repeatable and not dependent on word games and imaginary constructs.
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I wonder why so many atheists are in this thread? dude asked for a Christian to pray for him, and the atheists get triggered? Is the butthurt that strong? I don't believe in the Easter Bunny, but I don't lose my shit when I see a Cadburys Chocolate Egg commercial. Are they going to start posting bananas and Spiderman next?

I've always felt that the most butthurt feminists were the ones who deep down genuinely felt inferior to men. Can't help feeling like the atheists who come and shit in a thread like this have a genuine deep down fear of god. Like the politicians who rail the hardest against homosexuals are the ones on their knees in the men's room giving blowjobs.
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>>707669463
As I said earlier in this thread... The problem is that people who demand proof are almost never willing to accept evidence, even when it's staring them in the face.

"Musings of a crazy man?" These are not musings. These are actions. Difficult actions. Life-changing and life-ending actions.

Yours are "musings." No action. No intellectual honesty. Just ridicule and closed-mindedness.

If you'll be honest with yourself, and if you'll study it, Thomas' life and death proves Jesus was God.

But it takes effort to put it together. And I doubt you have the discipline to do it.
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>>707669670
Enjoy your delusion. I won't be waiting.
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>>707669670
>Jesus will return soon

You stupid child. (why in blazes are you even on 4chan ffs?)

God has been 'returning' for far longer than both you and I have been alive for.

He has forsaken you the same way he forsook "Jesus".
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>>707669916
and it is not ridiculous to place yyour pride over the happiness of another? Leave the man alone, he came for help, not for a lecture.

So either help the guy however you can, or GTFO!
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>>707670022
Good post, anon. Well done.
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>>707670022
We care about our fellow human beings and don't want them snookered by a bunch of charlatans in their time of need.
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>>707670022
If you kept seeing miserable people who had financial or medical or psychological disorders ask to Easter bunny for help you would want to shake them and tell them to stop being crazy and search for real answers?
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>>707670022
An athiest here, well said /b/ro (not being a smartarse)
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Is there anyone else itt who just has their own personal faith in God and doesn't follow any one religious interpretation?
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>>707670273
So help the guy, don't lecture him. See this:
>>707670235
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>>707670235
I did help him. I told him to stop believing in old wives tales and to seek medical help.

You're welcome.
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>>707670479

I tried helping him with actual real-life, rational advise from someone who has hit some pretty low lows and gotten back up, and apparently the problem was solved by 4chan prayers.
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>>707670078
K. We'll make it simpler. Stories aren't proof. At your level of critical thinking, Santa exists because there are stories and some crazy people swear they're real. That's your level of argument and mental processing. You live a delusion and you're too far down the rat hole to realize it.
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>>707670512
>old wives tales
Those tales were actually written by men. Religion is man's fault.
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>>707665002
Read this entire thread. Then ask yourself...

Why is it that Christians are blamed for not understanding? Look at the atheists and God haters in this thread.

Who is short on compassion?
Who is short on logic?
Who is short on understanding?
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>>707670512
What your problem? You take this man, who is theistic and trying to get help with how he is feeling, and then you proceed to beat him (metaphorically). What you are doing is akin to telling a man with the cold how there is no god and therefore he should not have anymore hope than you. Fuck off to the rest of /b/ unless you plan to help him with what he needs help with.
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>>707670512
How understanding and enlightened you are! Clearly you're better than everyone else.
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>>707670829
>mans fault
So it atheism and secularism it seems.
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>>707670885
When christians can provide proof that their god actually exists and their religion isn't the musing of wacked out cult members, people might start to cut them some slack.
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>>707649665
news flash, god isn't real just a sad human crutch that's clung on to to explain what we don't know/understand and to control the stupid. Those 'demons' are probably schizophrenia, go to a doctor and your shitty life will /only/ be fixed if you do something about your shit yourself.
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>>707671255
and yet the "cult" is more of a positive influence to everyone than your hypocritical secularism.
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Good to see Christbros here.. maybe we shouldn't be too happy we're here... but, I love you guys.


Ronans 7

14We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. 15I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. 16And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. 17As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. 18For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature.c For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. 19For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. 20Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.
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>>707670885
>Who is short on compassion?
I'm very compassionate and trying to help my delusional /b/rothers understand there is no God so they can continuing living there life in an honest practical way
>Who is short on logic?

Believing an invisible man impreganated a virgin in the Middle East who had a son who was killed in order to forgive the sins of people who hadn't even been born yet And then come back from the dead and then fly into the sky.... is not logical
>Who is short on understanding?
People who believe in an ancient book written by peasants with no first hand accounts.

Try science and peer reviewed research and math and biology and common sense.
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>>707670885

Christians are blamed because they're morons who lack understanding. And they're so moronic they willingly lack understanding.

Everyone is.
Theists.
Theists.


An atheist can always understand why theists believe what they do and the manner in which they do because they most likely were theists themselves once.

A theist cannot under any circumstance come to even try to understand why atheists don't have faith. An atheist's mind operates within reason. A theist's mind does not. Things just don't compute for theists.
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>>707671438
Romans*
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>>707671289
its not schizo you jerk. How is it sad for people to have hope? Hope certainly makes people more of a positive contribution to society than the tumor that is you and your RELIGIOUS indoctrination of atheism on others. Stop for just one second and ask yourself "is what I am doing for my own pride?". If yes, then GTFO.
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>>707671038
>What you are doing is akin to telling a man with the cold how there is no god and therefore he should not have anymore hope than you.

I'd tell a man with a cold there is no god and to take some vitamin c because that will actually make him feel better
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>>707670885
Both Christians and atheists lack all three of those, and pretty much everyone else on this shithole planet. Don't act like you are somehow better.
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>>707671255
Proof is provided in this thread.

If you'll be honest with yourself, and if you'll study it, Thomas' life and death proves Jesus was God. Actions, not words.

But it takes effort to put it together. And I doubt you have the discipline to do it.

>>707668315

^^ This

>>707669165

^^ And This
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>>707671200
Thanks.
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>>707671602
Hope =/= Faith
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>>707671602
You must be trolling nigga. If you really are this faithful Christian why are you on a sight known for its cheese pizza and gore pics??
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>>707671636

Vitamin C doesn't actually help with colds. That one is an old wife's tale.
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>>707671463
>not compassionate
"but I'm sooooo compassionate placing my pride above the joy of others!"
>Short on logic
"Richard Dawikins is my God. Not that he is God though, because believing in God is for fuckig shitfaces. but I don't need to explain my hatred for the theistic, because I'm logical since I'm an atheist"
>Short on understanding
"Oh, I'm so understanding. Watch as I kick a man while he is down and PREECH about the good news that THERE IS NO GOD and that atheists are the only smart people because they believe there is no god"

GTFO you atheist-fag.
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>>707671602
never said a was an atheist fucktard but your invisible man in the sky still isn't real, schizophrenia however is a real fucking thing, that provably exists and you can receive help for. Pray the problem away will not work but seeing a trained medical professional of this dimension about your mental health just might.
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>>707671477
we understand perfectly. The problem is that you come and shit on people who are just trying to find support from brothers in the fold. Stop being an asshole, do everyone a favour, and GTFO!
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>>707671912
Because he is a Christian and being a Christian makes him a hypocrite. He doesn't understand God himself, just what Christianity tells him.
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>>707671912
This. Why would any Christian go on this site? You are sinning by just being on here...you guys realize that right? Or do you just pick and choose what to follow in the Bible if it is convenient for you
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>>707671671
>don't act like you are somehow better
So what have you been doing on this thread?
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>>707672080

No you don't. You can be in further delusions if you please because being in further delusions is all you have.

I tried helping him and was shut down by a Christianityfag. 'Oh hey! My prayers helped him. Everything is ok now!'

>is it really? i can't see him being ok long-term
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>>707671970
Hahahaha ok ok I'll leave
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>>707672054
How does he have Schizophrenia then? He exhibits none of the behaviours. You just assume he is mentally ill because he believes there is a god and you hate those who disagree with you.
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>>707672246
First time I've commented, sometimes I lurk out of general curiosity. I just saw that and had to point out the facts fam.
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>>707649665
Sam is that you?
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>>707672467

They were talking about how some people claim to have demons. He may be mentally ill because of that, not because of his faith in Christianity.
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>>707671347
What's positive about it. People are killed in the name of it. Hatred is condoned in the name of it.
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>>707672603
some people believe in Demonism. You would be jumping to conclusions to state that since he is theistic, and believes he is cursed, that he must be mentally ill.
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>>707672212
Was Jesus sinning when he let the prostitute wash his feet?

Or when he healed on the Sabbath?

You misunderstand sin.
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>>707672467
Well no fucking shit Sherlock I don't /know/ he's schizophrenic, I don't /know/ who the fuck this is, and I'm not a doctor. So rather them him crying on the internet about his shitty life he could go and have a chemical issues in his brain resolved and find some real world comfort or relief.
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>>707672082
How can you make that judgment? Seriously... how can you make that judgment?
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>>707672698
Certainly not coming to you guys in your time of need and telling you how you need Jesus. GTFO if you get triggered by theism, there's a lot of it in this thread.
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>>707671674
Proof has not been provided. Stories by cult members aren't proof.
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>>707672712
believing in demons that are cursing you is just as stupid as believing in the invisible man in the sky who says you cant rub your own dick.
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>>707672839
>chemical issue
>doesn't know anything about the guy

Stop assuming faith is a mental illness you atheist-fag.
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>>707672969
You assume that because serial killers say they are Christianity breeds hatred and fear.

Have you even studied the bible?
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>>707672712
>Demonism.

Yet another stupid ass shit for simple malleable minds to believe in. And make excuses for things that may be actual mental/emotional problems.

No wonder God forsook you all. You can't think for yourselves. You need others telling you what to think, how to think.
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>>707673069
and telling people how they don't have the right to believe what you don't is autistic.
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>>707672246
>>707672558
Causing derision and mocking people for fun, just like all atheist do. Don't you know they're infinitely smarter and better than the rest of us?
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>>707673124
His faith isn't his illness, retard, its that he claims to have paranormal experiences with demons tormenting him. But if his faith meant jack shit maybe god wouldn't subject him to torment.
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>>707673478
I didn't say anybody didn't have the right to. You have the right to your shitty opinions but my right to inform you of it being a shit world view that inhibits the rest of society.
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>>707672951
There's a lot of bullshit coming from theists in this thread. That's all you have. Bullshit. You GTFO because you and your fellow theists are triggered for being called on your bullshit.
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>>707673466
same goes for you. You look to Richard Dawkins or whoever because he is you god. You just wont admit it and go on bashing raids of those who don't believe what you do. You militant atheists are as awful as the west burrow Baptist church, if not worse.
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>>707673312
The Bible is one scary book. Did serial killers write it because it reads like one did. All that murder and rape and threats of eternal fire and punishment. Bowing down in some sadomasochistic way to a naked man nailed to boards and tortured in public. Scary movies never did much for me but the Bible.. that's a freaky book.
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>>707649665
I'll pray for you /b/ro.
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>>707673312
What do fairy tales have to do with anything?
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>>707673715
...Fair enough..
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>>707672212

>>707671438

Jesus loved us while we were yet still sinners. Because I browse /b/, or any other board, doesn't mean I hate God or wish the world ill. I wish we all had the strength and peace of mind to overcome our weaknesses, even knowing the recompense of my works I ask God to forgive me when I think of the harder things. I ask God not to condemn very many of us. But he has already won the war. All we can do is accept his free gift of salvation and do with our lives the most good we can.
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>>707673720
I'm not triggered for being called on my theism. I'm triggered because the guy is asking for help and your preaching your shit instead of helping him.
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>>707674000
Wow. You are really off the delusional deep end.
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>>707673812
hahaha. Ok, ill admit, that is partly true. You are forgetting all the parts between them though, or the morals of the stories.
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>>707674000
When you touch your penis looking at traps on here do you pray for forgiveness before or after you nut on yourself?
What is god thinking when he watches?
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>>707672969
That's the point... it's NOT just a STORY! It's traceable proof back to the original apostle... the man who put his fingers in the wounds of Christ. The church is still there. You can go there today.

Now let me ask you... would YOU die for a belief that you KNEW was false?

Would you WALK thousands of miles to spread a gospel that you KNEW was false?

Be honest with yourself. Study it like a forensic scientist. This is legitimate, reasonable proof.

If you refuse to see it, then I can't help you. If you refuse to look at it, then you clearly don't care about uncovering the truth.
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>>707672728
Why did he not wash his own feet?

>>707672852
I can make that judgment from what I've concluded. So many of you don't believe in God. You believe in a religious interpretation of God. Since there are so many religious interpretations of it, the world has forgotten what God really is. The things people have done in the name of God...

>"God didn't kill that little girl. Fate didn't butcher her and destiny didn't feed her to those dogs. If God saw what any of us did that night he didn't seem to mind. From then on I knew... God doesn't make the world this way. We do."

and "we" being those who blindly follow a religion.
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>>707672728
Oh. I'm sorry. Pls forgive me. See I was under the impression that everything this website stands for goes against that book you guys keep going on about. Guess I was wrong. All that adultery, homosexuality, fornication, and basically everything else on here..guess that's okay cause if I pray real hard the big man in the sky will forgive me, so I can just continue the cycle again tomorrow.
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>>707674095
The people telling him to get medical help are helping him. You, on the other hand, are doing him a disservice by offering nothing more than unproven platitudes and fairy tales.
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>>707660148
I'm Catholic, and clearly your faith is nonexistent. Prayer is a staple of any Christian denomination.
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>>707673533
I said both lack in all three of those and everyone else, and somehow I'm attacking all Christians now?
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>>707673862
>>707673812
>>707673720
>>707673533
>>707674501

I went too far with my anger. Sorry to all you atheists.

I just don't want to see you, or theists, running around and telling people how what they believe is stupid. Just leave the guy in peace and let him believe what he wants, right or wrong. Bash me if you need to vent out anger, I deserve it because I did a ton of bashing just now. But leave the guy alone, he did nothing to you and he asked for help from believers and help in general. So give the guy help, argue about theism in /his/
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>>707673723

I do not look to Richard Dawkins or whoever. Not once have I said that nor have I said anything to make you assume that. I am not even an atheist either.


Congratulations. You have sinned tonight.
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>>707674173
You misunderstand me because you misunderstand what it is to be alive.

To be made flesh is to be made sin essentially. To be alive is to struggle, struggle with depression, sex, death, money, poverty, etc. To be in the full presence of God, is heaven. The eternal life, free of flesh.

It is no dilusion, life has to start some place. Jesus said he and the Father are one. And after all he did, miracles he performed, I know God is so far beyond all this stupid bs... so infredibly beyond it.. that it isn't even worth arguing about...
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>>707674836
I have.
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>>707668315
>man doubts God
>man later convinced god is real
>man crucified for beliefs
>this story is told orally
>40 years later someone writes it down
>copies are made
>changes are made accidentally and intentionally
>oldest surviving copies date 200 years after original story is thought to have occurred
>christian anon reads a collective version of what is thought to have occurred based on all surviving copies
>Christian anon concludes god is real
U wot m8?
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>>707674614

Hey, remember that Catholics are the biggest religious hypocrites. So it shouldn't surprise you that he said what he said.
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>>707674422
It is a story. Nothing more. Are their contemporary unrelated sources that corroborate? No. Why is it there are no mentions of Jesus by contemporary roman historians of the time? Your faith blinds you and your desperate desire to cling to it is sad really.
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>>707674331
I don't fap to gay shit.

It's bad enough that I've fapped at all. God forbid I fap to traps too..

Fapping in itself is pretty gay if you think about it.. I try and think of women I like. I can do better than this... I should marry.. the book sais those who can't control themselves should marry.
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I fucked up guys. I went on a bible-bashing marathon. I'm sorry for being an asshole.
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>>707649665

have you tried not being completely fucking retarded??

>demons

kys
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>>707649665
Here, I will do you a favor. Auditory hullicinations should be addressed by a qualified psychotherapist, and treated with anti psychotics.

Also god does not exist. Take accountability for your actions and self analyze.

Or just KYS
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>>707675215
I Intentionally shit on OP; no apologies.
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>>707675207
i can't tell if troll or not but haven't laughed this hard in weeks
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>>707675215
Not sure if you commented to any of my comments but I also apologize for being an asshole. It is fun to argue though.
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>>707649665
idk if this is bait or not but I will pray for you OP
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>>707674995
Nope. Mark was written within 20 years of Jesus death and resurrection.

We have many, many copies and fragments dating to the 1st century.

And Thomas' story continues OUTSIDE the Bible. It starts there, but it's continued well afterwards.

You can personally visit the church that he started. It's still there to this day.
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>>707675215

never apologize for calling stupid people stupid
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Atheist fag here I also apologize. All I hope is op if he's still around gets better. Life can seriously not suck sometimes.
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>>707675733
that is true, arguing can be fun. It should be done in a constructive way though.
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>>707675681
not trolling

there is no prescribed Christian demeanor... one should be respectful is all.. I don't think God is so dull that he'd make us just to castigate us.. do you?

Whatever God sais is for our own good, and I believe that fully. Doesn't mean I'm perfect.
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>>707675937
Dear god. Please help OP not be a faggot today... In Jesus Christ's name, Amen.
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>>707675998
I feel that for the most part that's impossible though, because everyone thinks that they are right and most aren't willing to hear the other side.
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>>707675961

lol no
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Remember. The Christian messiah's name wasn't actually Jesus.
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>>707676281
I'm learning to think critically. It can be difficult when you get all worked up though.
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>>707675961
Stories by cultists for cultists. That is not proof.
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>>707675132
Seriously? Josephus was a Jewish historian. Not Christian AT ALL. But he talked of Jesus. Even referenced His miracles.

And as I've said, you can VISIT Thomas' church to this day!

WHY would a man walk thousands of miles to start a church worshiping a man whom he KNEW was a fraud!?
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>>707676126
When doesn't god say fapping is gay?
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>>707676436
Correct. It was Yeshua.
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>>707676527
Money and pussy faggot
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>>707676612
I meant when does*

But that's actually funnier
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>>707676527
I already answered that question earlier. You either didn't see it or ignored it because it provided an explanation that is different than what you've come to believe.
>'Cus someone else said so and that makes it true!'
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>>707676527

if you would ever bother to read anything outside of your mental safe zone you'd know josephus's talk of jesus is pretty clearly forgery/insertion by later historians
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>>707676654
There we go.

If you're a Christfag, I'm very surprised you know that.
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>>707675961
Mark isn't even the name of the author. Mark is thought to have been written at the earliest 30 years after the death of Jesus. The oldest surviving copies date much later.

The existence of documents about Thomas provide evidence a man existed. This provides no evidence toward the existence of a supernatural being.

Again, a building dedicated to it erected by a man who could have existed (Thomas) does not imply a supernatural exists.

Try again.
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>>707676510
It is. But you refuse to see it. You are intellectually bankrupt, and you clearly have no regard for Truth.
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>>707676498
For sure. I actually like talking about things like religion and politics because there is room for open discussion and different ideas and viewpoints. It just seems that for the most part everyone's yelling at the top of their lungs for the other to believe/agree with them when that rarely happens. In my mind what you believe is what you believe and it would take a lot to change that. I was a Christian myself a few years back, did some soul searching and reading and realized I didn't fully believe the teachings. Nobody persuaded me to be a Christian or to be an atheist, I decided that on my own. So it all seems kinda like pointless banter to me.
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>>707677048

>fucking gibberish

we accept your surrender
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>>707677048
>>707676985
>>707676510
Lets all calm our tits and have a civil discussion. No name-calling, just discuss what you know and whether god does or does not exist (or if its not possible to tell). Just don't make it a fight you guys.
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>>707676527
A cultist writing for cultists. Don't you think that, if this jesus actually did everything attributed to him, he wouldn't have had fame far and wide throughout the empire? Why is he an unknown in his own time. Why did the romans regard him as nothing more than a lowly political rabble rouser? Quite simply, the historical record suggest he was not godly, nothing special and who would have faded to the dustbins of history were it not for dedicated cultists in a time of ignorance and superstition.
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>>707677048
You clearly have an inability to think critically let alone divine"truth".
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Was Jesus god or his son?
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>>707677614
Because God impregnated virgin marry who had four other kids right?
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>>707677176
you make a fair point. You came to your own conclusions and as such are more mature than most (including myself).
I may be going to bed soon, thanks for keeping your cool. Again, I am sorry for being an asshole about my theism just a couple of minutes ago.
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>>707677698
That means god is Jesus's dad
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>>707677711
It's all good anon. Good night.
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>>707677749
And that means if god banged Mary and god is Jesus then Jesus banged his mother..
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>>707669800
Lmfao you must really think you sound intelligent, huh?
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>>707677343
Please provide sources. Prove your position.
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>>707677614
He was neither. He was a man. Just a man. Who started acting out against the king. He claimed to be the son of God so he can gather followers. He was also a skilled magician. Sleight of hand was his specialty.

In history, there have been many "Jesuses" and they all faced execution.
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>>707677851
good night. Also dub dubs 4 u.
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>>707677933
Prove what? Nothing is presented as fact.
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>>707678016
he was in favour of rome: "give to ceasar what belong to ceasar. give to rome what belongs to rome"
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Take Drugs OP
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Studying the Bible is the best way to become an atheist. A man can not survive in the belly of fish for 3 fucking days!
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>>707652012
Your statements regarding Santa Claus and the Batman just so happen to be false. Santa IS REAL, he's just dead and he never had any magic reindeer. He used to through gold through people's windows. My mother taught me this truth sometime before preschool. Concerning Batman, Adam West is indeed a real person. And concerning God well, it's rather difficult to prove or disprove him. Glad I could be of help educating the youth.
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>>707676436
The word Christ literally means Messiah. Messiah means "anointed one", the anointed one if the vision the prophets saw of God, literally God covered in blood (anointed), and through his blood us sinners are washed of our sins. Jesus claimed he was the living manifestation of the same Messiah, which is God (the one God of all creation).

Jesus literally said, I, and my Father, are one. Plainly speaking, "me and God are one".

>>707676771

https://bible.org/question/does-bible-say-masturbation-sin
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>Hallucinatory but well-meaning christfags vs. unhappy butthurt pseudointellectual atheists
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>>707678975
/thread.
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>>707677604
Ok. Let me help you.

Does Thomas' church exist?
Does Thomas' church exist?
Does Thomas' church exist?

The answer is yes.

Did he WALK from Jerusalem to India to create that church?
Did he WALK from Jerusalem to India to create that church?
Did he WALK from Jerusalem to India to create that church?

The answer is yes.

Why did he invest his entire life into his faith if he KNEW it was a fraud?
Why did he invest his entire life into his faith if he KNEW it was a fraud?
Why did he invest his entire life into his faith if he KNEW it was a fraud?

The answer is that he saw Jesus after He'd risen from the dead. And he'd put his fingers into Jesus' wounds. Thomas KNEW 100% that Jesus was crucified and resurrected.
It's simple anon. Be intellectually honest about it.
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>>707672467
>He exhibits none of the behaviors
you can't determine he has anything from 1 post. you can just take his word that he is tormented by shit in his head and then make the reasonable deduction that he has a mental health/neurological issue.
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>>707676654
There is a long video online simplifying why Jesus is actually correct. Tl;dr is basically the Greek spelling is Iesous. And Greek is what they were writing, so Jesus is the English equivalent.
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>>707678157
That's actually wrong.

The quote was "render unto Ceasar what is Ceasar's. Render unto the Lord what is the Lord's"

This was in response to a question from some zealots seeking to trap Jesus by tricking him into saying it was wrong to pay taxes to the Occupying Roman forces.

Jesus asked the man to show him a coin, and when he did Jesus asked him who's image was on the coin. The man said "Ceasar". So essentially Jesus said it's Ceasars money, give it to him.
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>>707678964
That's the problem I have with it. Yeshua claimed it and you all believe it to be true for no reason whatsoever.
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>>707679718
>claimed

he proved, with his life, not claimed.

but you can't force someone to believe something they deliberately refuse to believe.

>>707672008
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>>707679173
People have done crazier things for even less plausible religions.

This is the fucking thing christfags don't understand, there are a thousand other religions that have vehement believers. People that would die for their belief in their deity. Deities which are wildly different and cannot coexist. Doesn't that make you question yourself just a bit?
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>>707680021
How did he prove it?
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>>707680188
Please name some. Seriously. Name some.

Who is ISIS butchering, burning, slaughtering by the thousands? Christians.

And the Christians could oftentimes escape these horrors if they would forsake Christianity and convert to Islam. But they don't.

Why?

Because they're all idiots?

No. Because they know that Jesus is real. They've had a real relationship with Him.

You cannot understand this if your heart is full of hate.
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>>707676436
Yeshua = Jewish name.
Jesus = Greek name.

Same man... Different names... No big deal.

Jesus/Yeshua often referred to Himself as the Son of Man. Others called Him the Messiah. He has many names in the Bible, but all of the names refer to the same man.
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>>707680588
Before he admit to being the Son of the blessed, he made prophesies that would later transpire. And before that, he rose Lazarus of Bethany from the dead, pulled demons out of a whore, raised a mans dying child from the dead, fed thousands of people who all witnessed him doing so, many miracles.. these were also miracles hundreds of years before.

they wanted to make him king even, but he fled to a mountain by himself (my kingdom is not of this world he later said)

he prophesied his own death and resurrection, three days and three nights after, he rose from the dead, and was seen by his followers, and not merely seen either, they felt him physically.

Jesus said no one can take his life, that he gives it up willingly. That he has the power to take it down and raise it up again. Through the Father, who he said he is one with... he IS the life.
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Read this OP, helped me understand the path!

https://www.amazon.com/Your-Own-Jesus-Insistent-Personal/dp/0310293324
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>>707681653
Small correction. Earlier poster was more accurate than what I posted.

Yeshua = Jewish name.
Iesous = Greek Name
Jesus = English transliteration of Greek.
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>>707681806
miracles prophesied hundreds of years before*

rather
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>>707681171
Here are 18 religions with over 500k followers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_religious_populations#Adherent_estimates_in_2012
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>>707681806
Where did you learn that?
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>>707649665
sure
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