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Why do people hate Clinton for representing a rapist in 1975?
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>>707358011
If you read up on it its not hard to figure out.
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>>707358161
I did read up on it and I watched the video. State failed to make a case. She did her job providing testimony of her client in the affidavit. They say she slandered the girl when it's actually her own client's words.
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Because it's the current year 2016
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>>707358011
Because what Hillary did 40 years ago is totally significant, but what Trump said when he was 59 is ancient history, or so the imbeciles would argue.
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I don't get the hate on attorneys. They have to have a Teflon mind as to not get emotionally attached to a case. It doesn't mean that it's personal when she questioned the character of the girl.
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>>707359068
I saw a circus show before and during the debate. I cannot believe that Trump brought those women into the debate. It's a new low in politics.
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>>707359326
I read someone say the bar can no longer be lowered, it's now flush with the ground.
And he himself called those women losers back when he was chumming around with Jeff Epstein and cheating on Melania by groping women...
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>>707359068
implying
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>>707359326
save it kid.
the bar was lowered with what they did to Bernie.
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>>707359721
sure kid. any proof to your claims?
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>>707359721
The hypocrisy of Trump is unbelievable. He's so cancerous that he would rather take her down with him than let her win. I've heard the talk of how it can't get any lower. There's a couple of feet left before bottoming out. They could start cursing at one another on TV Hillary calling Trump a motherfucker and Trump calling Hillary a bitch or cunt. Beyond that is them getting into a physical altercation.
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>>707360295
You mean how she beat him by 3.7 million votes cast by actual voters? Yeah, that was some conspiracy, babby.
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>>707360295
*sigh* Bernie has largely forgiven her for that and is out there campaigning for her. Also, I'm sure that the Democrats are going to reward Bernie for helping her even after the DNC bullshit.
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>>707358011 (OP)
donno would fuck her tho
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>>707361258
She was really hot when younger.
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>>707360835
>>707360933
children will believe anything.
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>>707361469
that's not who you're voting for though.
you know how much of a bitch your mother can be.
she's worse.
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>>707360400
proof that he called the women losers?
>http://www.vox.com/2016/10/9/13221678/donald-trump-paula-jones-loser
that he's friends with Jeffrey Epstein?
>http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/30/the-billionaire-pedophile-who-could-bring-down-donald-trump-and-hillary-clinton.html
or proof that when he talked about grabbing women by the pussy when he was married to Melania, that he said what he said?
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>>707360835
like the democrats never "lose" votes on purpose.
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>>707361505
So you believe the vote totals are false?
And you claim not to be a toddler?
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>>707361863
real credible sources kid.
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>>707361987
this is the conclusion you draw and you wonder why you're called kid.
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>>707358011
Because people are children and don't understand what the job of an attorney is.
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>>707362327
implying
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>>707362025
>Videotape of Trump saying the words
>Not credible
Jesus Christ
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>>707362141
I assume it's because you're a Trumptard and think that's clever.
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>>707362539
An attorney has an ethical duty to zealously represent their client within the bounds of the law. This doesn't matter who the client is or what the client has done, the client has a legal right to competent representation. Our legal system is adversarial meaning that the opposing side i.e. the prosecutor in this case was also a competent attorney and he zealously represented his client, i.e. the people in this case. With both sides represented by competent attorneys we can assume the system is as fair as possible. If Clinton would have shirked her duty in any way shape or form in representing her client because of who he is then our legal system is not fair for anyone and justice can't be served.
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>>707362704
you seem to have limited intelligence.
you view right and wrong with prejudice.
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>>707358011
cause there's a fucking million reasons to hate the whiny cunt but this one can be one other cunts an get on board with.
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>>707363097
You can imagine how hurt I am when someone who wants Trump to be president calls me unintelligent.
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>>707362761
and here it is.
"you don't agree with me so you're a trumptard"
you wonder why you are called kid.
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>>707363079
you just should have posted an ad homin.
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>>707363219
>this one can be one other cunts an get on board with
This is how Trump groupies think he'll win women voters away from her.
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>>707358011
They're not people, they're trumpkins. They grab at anything that might possibly show the Lizard Queen in a bad light. If only they would be more selective in their examples, they would be ever so much more convincing.
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>>707363228
implying I support him.
you're looking dumber every post.
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>>707363240
I don't wonder. I know it's because you're an imbecile.
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>>707361505
And seriously mentally ill believe in conspiracy theories.
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>>707363318
I already did, I called people children
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>>707363414
>I'm not with him, I am just hating his opponent
You sound like someone in a trap thread denying he's gay for sucking dicks
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>>707363079
Perfect. I enjoyed reading the first rational post on 4chan.
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>>707358011
>Why don't more people hate Clinton for representing a rapist in 1975?
There I fixed it for you.

I know you are either a shill or some faggot who doesn't know how to use a search engine, so I'll spoon feed you, just pretend it's tranny dick and open wide OP.

She was on audio recordings laughing about how she got him a 1 year sentence instead of 30. Her defense for rapist pedo was that the girl was asking for it. And there you have it.
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>>707363318
The problem is that actual justice and what the layperson perceives as justice is more often than not misunderstood. Justice is very black and white. Ad hominem arguments have no merit. Arguments with logic and merit decide a case.
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>>707358011
Because her defense strategy was to attack a 12 year old rape victim on the stand
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>>707363434
your tears
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>>707363079
As human beings, its our ethical duty to be disgusted with her for the way she went about it.
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>>707361863
Talking big in private with friends> Sexually assaulting a woman

Good try shill, big difference.
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>>707363730
Thanks fam, I guess I can also add an addendum to my post that failure to provide a client with competent representation can result in an attorney facing a malpractice claim from the client and also discipline from the state's bar association. Also in this case I believe, she was also appointed the client by a judge and I think most states have rules that if you are appointed you can't drop the client without a valid reason.
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>>707363571
well Hillary is always claiming a right wing conspiracy.
thanks for pointing that out.
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>>707363580
>you can't hate one without supporting the other
Retards actually believe this.
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>>707364080
just can't seem to figure it out.
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>>707364104
As opposed to what? Misrepresenting her client? The character of the girl was questioned because it's a serious accusation that has long lasting repercussions. She did a good job by examining whether or not the girl is capable of lying and or providing false testimony. When you get an attorney you want an attorney who is going to fight for you even if you are guilty. It is up to the state to fight harder and prove guilt. The system is designed like this to thoroughly run the plaintiff and defendant through a process of eliminating every single doubt that the defendant is guilty. A good attorney is not a cuck and puts aside this bullshit about smearing a 12 year old girl.
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>>707364620
still not getting it.
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>>707364209
As human beings we need a court system that is fair for all. Having a rigged system is terrible for society. If defense attorneys aren't willing to get their hands dirty and do what's best for their clients then we run the risk of actual innocent people getting punished because the system is rigged. The court system needs to be as fair as we can make it.
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>>707358011
>Why do people hate Clinton
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>people
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>>707358011
She was appointed to the case she tried to get out of it she couldn't it was her job check facts fag
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>>707365037
still doesn't understand
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>>707365021
why does everybody hate Clinton?
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>>707358011
Because her defense was that the 12 year old was asking for it from the 41 year old homeless man, that she knew he was guilty and got him off on a technicality.

They tested underwear for blood/semen, found it, but returned only the underwear with the hole. So, no defense tests possible. Case dismissed.

Hillary laughs uproariously.
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>>707365186
Becuase she's a woman and becuase the right in this country is pretty shitty. They barely have anything to throw against her so they desperately try to dig up trivial shit or make up stuff completely to discredit her.

Politics in general in this country are pretty bad. It's not enough that people disagree but both parties have to hate each other venemously and have to appear to not compromise so as not to appear weak in front of their constituents.
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>>707365373
That's not what happened at all...
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>>707365373
I love that phrase "off on a technicality." So requiring the prosecutor to prove his case beyond a reasonable doubt is a technicality?
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>>707366037
blaming the right. nice touch.
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>>707364778
What's worse, that the girl had to go through the ordeals of being on the stand and being subject to cross or denying someone a constitutional right. One of the oldest rights we have that even pre dates the constitution is that an accused gets to face their accuser in court. This is one of those fundamental liberties that the constitution tries so hard to protect. The prosecutor should have and surely did prepare her for taking the stand. The prosecutor had just as much opportunity as Clinton to talk to the girl and get the story across his way.
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>>707365373
She didn't laugh at the girl, fucktard
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>>707366306
They legit made up the whole story. Honestly it's sorta depressing how cartoonish the right has become. No one who prescribes to their bullshit checks their facts. They just spout whatever rush Limbaugh or Jim Ross has to say and beleive anything and everything fox news has to say.

You can read the court affidavit yourself and listen to the tapes where Hilary describes her involvement in the case. She vehemently disliked being assigned to the case and went on record trying to get off the case on multiple occasions. You can hear here discuss the case and she doesn't laugh about it. The rapist didn't even get off. He was forced into a plea bargain. Instead of the right looking this information up for free online they just shout and spout bullshit.

This is why I can't take the right seriously. Even after you're presented with facts you just move on like it didn't happen.
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>>707364283
Sounds about right. People love to hate on attorneys, but when you're fucked legally they are your best friends.
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She was assigned the case and tried to get out but did her fucking job anyway.

Besides, I salute any man who can diddle some 12 yo strange and get away with it.
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>>707358011
Because they can.
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>>707366958
sure kid
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>>707367093
because they want to.
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>>707367088
It's people like you we need to round up and put in concentration camps
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>>707364080
You confuse vengeance with justice.
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>>707358402
If she did just that it be fine but she then said later that she knows he was guilty and laughed about it
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>>707358011
Because most people don't understand what public defenders do or what their role is in the justice system is. They think defending someone accused of a crime is the same thing as being being guilty of that crime.
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>>707367120
You sound like someone who hasn't read the court avidavits...
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>>707360835
There are emails proving that the dnc was working for her, faggot
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>>707366611
Right, and it's a shame that the girl didn't have better representation. Cases like this do hold the DA to be accountable for their mistakes, and I would hope that they at least learned from it.
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>>707359068
>i want you to focus on what donald trump said 11 years ago
>and please ignore all the rapey stuff my husband has been doing for the last 30 years
>and also please ignore that ive been complicit in all of it
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>>707359130
Teflon?
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>>707367277
Expect she didn't. Where did you read that?
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>>707361863
>Vox
>The daily beast
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>>707367088
Will there be young girls at this concentration camp?

>>707367277
Eh, no she didnt. She may have laughed at some procedural issue but not the entire case.
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>>707367429
Hearsay, faggot.
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>>707364209
She did her job well. You would literally have to hate every single public defender if you hate Clinton for this. They don't get to choose between representing the truly innocent or guilty. They have to represent we the people as innocent until proven guilty. You are very fortunate to have this system in place.
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>>707367501
I know, I saw the Daily Beast and immediately moved on to the next post.
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one of us
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>>707358011
>Why do people hate Clinton for representing a rapist in 1975?

Accused rapist.
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>>707366037
>Using the mysogyny card
Go back to tumblr
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>>707367691
>hearsay
>everyone knows Bill Clinton is one of the most disgusting men in politics today
>has a list of victims a mile long

a very persuasive argument you put forth
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>>707367368
you sound like someone who needs to grow up a little.
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People in here acting like Trump is running against Bill.
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>>707367277
Read the tapes, she laughed because he passed the polygraph and she said that's when she knew she could never trust a polygraph again, then chuckled about how ridiculous it is that he passed. Which by the way polygraphs don't hold up in court anymore cause they are bullshit, but you jesus christ all you retartds saying she laughed about it because shes obviously some evil person who loves rape. I have a friend with severe autism and you make him look like hes high functioning
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>>707367600
Re read what I said kid
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>>707365373
You know it may sound crazy, buy attorneys probably enjoy their job and take pride in what they do. Even this case of the 12 year old. She worked hard believing that the prosecution would work harder. Unfortunately they didn't.
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>>707368032
>Ad hominem
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>>707368032
This.

Unfortunately, the Trump morons seem to be allergic to facts.
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>>707368023
you don't catch on to much, do you?
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>>707368164

Identifying a type of argument isn't an argument in and of itself.

It's about as relevant as you responding "the sky is blue" when I say "Hillary is a criminal".
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>>707368164
stretch much?
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>>707368032
Dang! An attorney talking bluntly about their work and actually demonstrating the ability to set aside judgement of her cases. Sounds like a good attorney to me.
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>>707368356
>Being this new
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>>707358011
Defense lawyers don't get to represent a lot of good people. Maybe OP could take a break from sucking GOP cock to get a fucking clue.
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>>707368356
It's about as relevant as saying "I will defeat ISIS" when asked "Did you sexually assault women?"

FTFY
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>>707368444

>Being this euphoric

We all saw the sticky on /pol/, faggot.
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shills are in maximum overdrive today
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>>707368762

Define sexually assault without getting too triggered by the fact that I'm asking you to define what you mean.
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>>707368439
no one believes you kid
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>>707368762

Thank you for correcting the record.

$.05 has been deposited into your account (Verified CTR member, a Clinton Foundation Company).
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>>707368688
found the tard
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>>707358011
Because they hate that people get due process under the law. Frankly, they just hate the constitution.
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>>707368878
Unwanted sexual contact (and beyond)
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>>707368762
ah no
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>>707368869

They need money.
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>>707369045
really kid. you're this dumb.
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>>707358011

>>707368221
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>>707368878
Physically and sexually forcing yourself on someone without their consent, through the use of force or abuse of power.

For example, grabbing a woman by the pussy when you know she doesn't want to but that you'll get away with it because when you have money you feel you can do anything and they can't stop you.
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>>707369141
She was assigned a case and did her job. People hate that it wasn't a lynch mob, that's all.
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>>707366204
He did prove his case. The blood and semen on the man's underwear were conclusive.

But because the evidence was missing the part they tested, the evidence was thrown out.

And the girl was rape shamed.
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>>707368946
I don't think what I said is anything but realistic. You guys sound like the SJWs here because you get all feels over an attorney doing this job well. No wonder you guys get cucked all the time and can't win a Presidency. Protip: thinking like an attorney is for winners not losers
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>>707369051

Adults have the ability to consent. Define the point in which a person should reasonably set boundaries against the action they want to avoid.
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>>707369214
Fucking bitches throw themselves at rich men.

Is this fucking news to you permavirgins?
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Because she is womyn and they can hear her roaring.
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>>707360295
Save it kid you're never gonna get that gender studies diploma now
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>>707369238
no point in replying kid. you're dumb.
thank god you won't be getting my daughter pregnant.
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>>707368688
I'm pro attorneys bro. I wasn't bashing Clinton for her work as a public defender. In fact, I think she did an excellent job in this case. I was wondering why others can't wrap their mind around the way the justice system works.
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>>707369257
So, if the evidence trail isn't solid, we should listen to it anyway? To hell with due process, he's probably guilty?
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>>707369288
there you go implying.
what's your IQ? 85?
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>>707368962
I can hear the rustling from here.
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>>707369214

Any adult woman can avoid this contact. Circumstance is not a valid argument to define "sexual assault". If a woman weighs her options in her head and consents to the contact, regardless of the circumstance (unless it's cohersion based on fear of imminent physical violence) she cannot go back later and say it was assault.

Are you defining sexual assault as any sexual contact?

If so, the entirety of humanity is guilty of sexual assault.
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>>707369386
like I would want one
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>>707369479
>I'm pro attorneys bro. I wasn't bashing Clinton for her work as a public defender. In fact, I think she did an excellent job in this case. I was wondering why others can't wrap their mind around the way the justice system works.

American's don't want justice. They want vengeance. The justice system exists to prevent that.
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>>707360933
Go back2reddit faggot
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>>707367277
im guessing you will be voting for trump... The go to move by trump supporters is to just make up bullshit with no evidence whatsoever.
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>>707369654
still don't get it do you.
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>>707369523
Nope try again. As long as you don't have the mindset of an attorney you have the equivalent of an IQ of 85.
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>>707358011
Because everyone hates defence attorneys in rape cases
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>>707369399
I'll leave that to some other guy. Honestly, the only reason people get upset about this is because she did her job competently.
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>>707362704
>Daily beast
>Vox
>Credible
Jesus christ
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>>707369332

No, shills and liberals want crime and punishment to align with their feel feels. Argue against them using facts and logic only triggers them further.

If it were up to them, good men who simply are trying to find a woman would be be locked up for years because of erroneous sexual assault charges.

Oh wait, prison is full of the aforementioned. Thanks liberal progressives!
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>>707369654
Right. That's what I'm starting to believe.
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>>707369772
so it's 85 then. sorry to hear that dude.
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>>707358011
Mostly because Hillary has been at the recieving end of a pretty ruthless campaign to discredit her ever since she had the gall to stick her nose into the healthcare debate while she was first lady. I don't think the GOP ever dreamed it would be this successful, and they ended up creating a monster that they can't reign in. She was a lawyer, she did the job legally required of her.
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>>707369691
*Tips fedora* M'lady
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>>707369257
They literally took the damning evidence they had against the defendant and threw it away. Sorry, but just saying "we had evidence but we lost it" is not valid.

A child psychologist, among others, said that the girl had a tendency to seek out other men and make up false accusations, so the defense requested that a court appointed therapist validated that.

The prosecutor, at the request of the victim and her family, offered the plea bargain.

The fact that Hillary Clinton was appointed as defense in a case where the prosecution horribly bungled what should have been an easy conviction is not her fault. Her only other legal option would be to simply give up on her aspirations for having a career in law. You cannot intentionally lose a case just because the prosecutor fucked up, even if you know the guy did it.
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>>707369824
still can't get it.
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>>707369310
Take the standard for the tort of battery as a baseline. Battery can occur in the event of (among other things) "offensive contact," which is touching that "violates prevailing social standards of acceptable touching." I think we can agree that grabbing some woman's pussy "violates prevailing social standards of acceptable touching." So that would be battery unless the woman had consented beforehand to such contact. I think sexual assault can be approached basically the same way.
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>>707370068
I tend to agree. I think the hate went back even further though to her time when Bill was governor of Arkansas. She comes off as being arrogant I think because she's got the mindset if an attorney, and she also doesn't conform to the norms of society.
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>>707369332
>Implying that they were asking for it every time.
>Implying that Trump didn't take advantage of his wealth and power, knowing they would not retaliate.

Also
>Implying that everyone who doesn't want to take advantage of women, or everyone who disagrees with you about something, is a virgin.

Underage b&
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>>707370118
Understand perfectly. People don't like defense attorneys even though they are a necessary part of the legal system. She did her job, and people whinge about it for no good reason.
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As much as I don't like Clinton, she dindu nuffin in this case. The legal system screwed up and she exploited it, same as any lawyer, now let's just hope they've learned their lesson when it comes to handling evidence.
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>>707370319

And what reasonable action did the accuser take to show the accused that he/she didn't want that contact after it happened?

It would be a social standard with plenty of precedence to allow someone to have sexual contact if that person thinks they will benefit from it.

In what context is the touching occurring?
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>>707369575
That's complete bullshit. Coercion does not need to be based on a fear of imminent physical violence for it to count as rape. If I threaten to break a girl's neck if she won't have sex with me, it doesn't matter if I say I'm going to do it now or tomorrow. That's still rape. If I have the power to take all her money and belongings, forcing her into poverty and homelessness, and give the impression that I will do just that if she doesn't let me feel her up, that's still sexual assault.

The difference between courting and coercion is that one is providing reasons to say yes and the other is deterring them from saying no. Trump was quite clearly bragging about how, because he has power, women CANNOT say no. That is sexual assault. If instead he said that because of his money women would throw their pussies into his hands, that wouldn't be sexual assault (unless he was saying that he has so much money that women won't take no for an answer, in which case they would be sexually assaulting him).
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>>707370731
Right. Shit like this is terrible for the victim, but it serves a purpose by holding the state accountable for fucking up.
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>>707370319
but he never did.
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>>707370470
nah dude she's just a bitch.
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>>707370524
but we're not talking about him are we honey.
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>>707370835

You are trying to skew the law to your emotions.

This is why we have court rooms - to keep innocent men and women out of prison due to the emotions of others out for vengeance to placate their own subjective moral compass.

Once the damage you mean to cause is done, you're over it, and some poor sap is sitting in a prison we all have to pay for.

+1 for the United States justice system.
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>>707370562
man you are fucking dense
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>>707371015
The prosecution lawyer acts the exact same way when (s)he attempts to convict an innocent person.
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>>707371306
>You are trying to skew the law to your emotions.
Nothing in any of my posts suggests emotion in any way. You are clearly creating something where there is nothing to "win" an argument, usually only done when someone knows they are wrong.
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>>707358011
Because she basically said the 12 year old girl was asking for it.
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>>707370754
Wait a minute, are you suggesting that the lack of consent needs to be expressed after the fact, or else consent is implied? That's not how it works. It's the toucher's burden to show that there WAS consent, not the other way around.
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>>707371351
Correct.
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>>707371306
what's it been almost two hours and no one understands why.
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>>707371265
If you follow the replies back, you will see that we were, in fact, talking about him.
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>>707371107
sure he didn't
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>>707370731
Precisely. Our system should prevent innocent people being convicted over all else, even if the guilty occasionally go free. It sucks sometimes, but the investigators have to be as perfect as possible.
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>>707371184
good one
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>>707371463
when did she make this statement?
after the trial or during?
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>>707371107
I didn't say he did, but it sure took him a long time and a lot of attempted diversion before he finally decided to answer "No" to Anderson's question.
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>>707371463
Please provide a reliable source for this
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>>707371463
Actually she didn't. That was more the testimony of her client. She was obligated to provide evidence to eliminate the doubt that he is innocent. The prosecution should have worked harder to eliminate doubt that he is guilty. Feels have no place in justice.
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>>707371626
proof or consequences kid.
this thread is being monitored.
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>>707371502
>It's the toucher's burden to show that there WAS consent
Depends on the context. In everyday life, it is my responsibility to get the consent before I do anything. However, if after the fact it goes into any sort of legal challenge, as the defendant it would not be my responsibility to provide proof of consent, but her responsibility to show lack of consent.

You are right in the sense that we aren't saying Trump should definitely be in jail.
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>>707371620
who?
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>>707371332
For hoping that people can understand the legal system? Yeah, I feel that way sometimes too.
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>>707371757
you just did kid.
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>>707358402
NONONONONONO SHE'S A RAPIST SUPPORTER FUCK YOU.

TRUMP 4 PRES
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>>707371888
one question.
Zimmerman, guilty or not?
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>>707358011

Because people are stupid
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>>707371650
Spot on. Seeing footage and interviews of men jailed and then released decadesater because it was proven that they were innocent is incredibly sad.
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>>707372023
no one is saying that.
go back to flipping burgers kid.
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>>707372205
because liberals are stupid.
fixed it for ya!
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>>707372205
Yea that sounds about right. The OJ Simpson verdict was correct because the state fucked up so badly. I mean we all know he did it though.
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>>707372179
Not that guy, but have been saying Hillary did nothing wrong ITT. Zimmerman is not guilty, and the Trayvon Martin case is very similar to this one (as in the accusations against Hillary, not Taylor) in that people are intentionally misinterpreting and misrepresenting things to fit a political narrative, it's just that in this case the right is doing it instead of the left.
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>>707372284
No one is saying what?
WRONG
SHE SUPPORTS RAPISTS WHO MOLEST CHILDREN NOTHING YOU SAY CAN CHANGE THE TRUTH.
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>>707372382
Liberals actually believe strongly in the fairness of the justice system. Sorry to burst your bubble.
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>>707368164
here's another ad hominem, you desreve it!
you're a retard
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>>707372638
Tell that to the Duke Lacrosse team of 2006.

It is an all too human failing to argue that when something doesn't go the way you want it to, or support the story you want to tell, to claim that things are unfair or that someone else is cheating. Humans are largely hypocrites, regardless of political leaning.
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>>707372528
what if you had to go under the knife tonight.
what ever reason. how would you feel if the OR was placing bets on your life?
the question is her conduct and ethics or the lack of ethics. anyone can become a lawyer.
not everyone should be a lawyer.
why do you think Z is innocent?
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>>707372624
sure kid. lets see your ID then.
two minutes.
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>>707372179
Not the person you asked but I'll weigh in. Zimmerman wasn't guilty of what he was charged with. I said all along that the DA reached too high on that one. Same thing with Casey Anthony. Had they tried either of them on a lesser charge like negligence then they would have definitely gotten a conviction.
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>>707372973
I agree that humans are bias and hypocritical by nature. It is possible to control it though. The legal system is pretty much the best we can do at the moment to give everyone a fair chance at justice.
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>>707372638
shame they don't practice what they preach.
not going into specific's but discussing an ongoing case on a radio talk show is hardly fairness.
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>>707372382

As displayed by the conservatives for over a decade, the Liberals are the only ones that pay attention and know what's going on. The conservatives just circle jerk each other and spread bullshit
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>>707372445

Oh yeah, he was totally guilty but the state screwed it from the beginning.
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>>707373239
read>>707373318
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>>707373355
another 85 here.
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>>707373135

pedophile detected
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>>707367696
on top of that, they don't really represent people as much as they represent one side of the law. Guilt or Innocence doesn't matter. It looks at - is there enough evidence to convict. They defend YOUR rights - just some other SOBs are the ongoing test cases for it.
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>>707373580
nigger please
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>>707371458

Actually if you read correctly I'm trying to show there is nothing here when you say there is something.

Namely, a sexual assault conviction based on the set of circumstances mentioned earlier.
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>>707373037
If the OR was placing bets in favor of them doing their job well? I probably wouldn't care. If they were betting against me? I'd be upset.
To be relevant to this situation, I would be upset if the tapes of Hillary laughing about this case were her laughing about how she intentionally fucked it up so that the guy would be found guilty even though the prosecution was terrible.

I think Zimmerman is innocent because Trayvon played a huge role in causing the confrontation, but that more importantly there was just not enough valid evidence to support the case against Zimmerman. Much of the information that swayed people to Martin's side was shown to be blatantly false or edited in such a way to be misleading.
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I think a good analogy of how our justice system has evolved is how our civilian aircraft wouldn't be as safe as they are if it weren't for air disasters.
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>>707358011

Did her job, /pol/luters shitting the bed because Trump is further behind in the polls
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>>707372624

Anyone under 30 in 2016 is a kid.
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>>707373318
What ongoing case?
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>>707373830
Trump won the last debate. Your point is moot.
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>>707373690
sometimes they look the other way when its not a "career maker"
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>>707373830
>polls
>meaning anything
>at all
>ever
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>>707373037
>the question is her conduct and ethics or the lack of ethics.

Sadly her conduct and ethics seem to be better than her competition at the moment...


>why do you think Z is innocent?

He was charged for murder which they jury found him innocent on. Had they charged him for negligent homicide it would have been more fitting to the events and he would have most likely been convicted
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>>707373886

No he didn't, none of the polls reflect that. Five Thirty Eight predicted every state correctly in the 2012 election and give Hillary an 81% chance of winning. Trump is fucked but keep believing so your tears are more salty.
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>>707373690
Right, it's not perfect because of wrongful convictions and letting criminals go sometimes but it's by far the fairest.
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>>707373886
Trump only "won" the debate in the eyes of people who were already going to vote for him. All he did was stop his camp from bleeding voters like they have been for the last few days. Considering he's still losing and time is running out, that is far from a win in any meaningful way. A win would be convincing undecided voters to vote for him, which I don't believe he did at all.
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>>707373774
thank you. clearly there is one adult here.
yes the bet was whether you would make it or not.
lawyers are scum. our justice system is too carrier oriented. pray to god you never have to go through it.
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>>707374054

>2012 election

I'm 5 year old nephew could have predicted that.

Show me someone who guessed the 08 election and you have yourself a good source. That's basically what's happening now.
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>>707373830
being this much of a simpleton.
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>>707373855
Pretty sure most under 30 also believe that the justice system is rigged because of Hillary (even though it's not).
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>>707374086
Moderate lolbertarian here, he did win the debate.
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>>707374086

>Undecided voters
>October 2016

These group of people need to drown themselves.
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>>707367433
It's a material commonly used to make the heads of spatulas. It's non-stick. Attorneys can't afford to get attached to every case. Congrats Anon, you learned a new word!
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>>707374323
Nah he tanked the debate in the beginning with his bs response to the video. He did better after but Hillary didn't do terribly. I tend to think it was 50/50 but others may disagree.
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>>707373880
this was 10 years ago. an ongoing case, one that did not go to trial yet, was openly discussed by the prosecution on a talk radio show..
fairness? I don't think so.
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>>707374293

They just need to be proven wrong enough times to understand. It's inevitable. This used to happen around when someone hit 20 but I truly believe that these days one can go find a way to validate their own bullshit so easily that they never really need to face the humbling fact of being wrong until much later.
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>>707373767
> a sexual assault conviction
Then we're talking about something entirely different.
One of my posts was >>707371838

To be clear, I think that what Trump was talking about in the tapes is a clear example of someone committing sexual assault ("grab them by the pussy" because they can't say no), which is troubling for a candidate for the most powerful political office in the country. It is not, however, even close enough to support any sort of conviction or even trial for sexual assault.
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>>707374260

Five Thirty Eight aka Nate Silver predicted the 08 election correctly as well. It's an aggregate of polls and has been very accurate in the US. On Betfair Hillary's odds have been backed in from 1.61 to 1.22 in the last week which means the market gives her an 81% chance. Trump has run of steam and you would have to spend all your time in an echo chamber to think otherwise.
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>>707373998
missed on both accounts.
she has history, no one really likes her.

as for Trayvon. when he reached his fathers house he was safe. when he decided to go after Zimmerman he became the aggressor.
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>>707360494
>This.
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>>707374635

Agreed
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>>707374477
Cognitive bias means you interpret everything your chosen candidate says positively, and shun the competition. Everything they say just gives you more evidence to support your beliefs.

Everyone does it. It's hard not to as a human.
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>>707361683

>The mom argument

Jesus kid, just get out of here.

I'm voting for Trump but the 'she's a bitch woman like my mom' argument is just infantile.
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>>707366958
I fully agree with you, and I'm by no standards right leaning, but it's not like the resilience against facts are one sided. This is the political climate of 2016, it's all about show and nothing about facts or playing your hands in the open. The obvious corruption surrounding the Clinton 'unintentional' bullshit, the Trump lack of substance all together, far right extremists gaining power in Europe, all while the rest of the political spectrum stand stunned and afraid of them. It's like chickens running around without a head. There's nothing in this for the public, nobody gives a fuck about the public, about actually doing political work and help society. It's just fucking depressing.
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>>707367691
But I mean, at some point where there's smoke there's fire right?
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>>707358011

>people hate
>people

Right wingers don't count as people, OP.
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Trump is /b/
If you are not for him you might as well start migrating back to Tumblr
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>>707374344
Depends on what they are undecided about.

For example, I only recently decided how I am going to vote. I live in Kansas, which will go to Trump no matter what. I wasn't undecided on if I was going to vote for Hillary over Trump, I was undecided on if I was going to vote for Stein (closest to my political views, but still a fucking crazy hippie lady with ridiculous anti-science views), Johnson (in hopes that he gets enough votes that this year works slowly towards moderating the Republican party by showing that the far right aren't the only voters worth listening to), or not voting for anyone in the presidential election. It was very unlikely I would ever vote for Clinton, and there was never a chance I was going to vote for Trump. The debates could have been a chance for Clinton to win me over as an undecided voter.

On the other hand, if there's someone who knows they are going to vote for Trump or Hillary but can't decide which, they are a fucking idiot.
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>>707375809
Not necessarily. Pretty much any time someone famous is accused of anything, you'll get people coming out of the woodwork saying "yeah, he did it to me, too!" just for attention because they are crazy narcissists. If the person actually did do what the first accuser said, then it's more likely that the people coming forward are telling the truth. However, if the first accuser was just stirring shit for their own reasons, it's less likely that the people coming out to support with their own stories are telling the truth.
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I dont hate people who do their jobs. I don't hate her defending her client to the best of her abilities because she's a lawyer doing her fucking job.

Just like I don't hate the garbagemen who takes my trash every week.
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>>707376236

Nice try, nigger.

/pol/ might be Trump, but they're subhuman filth. /b/ is saner than that and statistics don't lie; everyone is pulling for Hillary in this one.

Sorry but you failed as hard as humanly possible. Enjoy being a retard.
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>>707374986
OK I understand, and you are entitled to think that way. I do think, however, that I'm more than capable of thinking critically though. I concede that Donald Trump had much better comebacks and he is able to connect with people via his populist rhetoric, but I think it's hard to deny that there were times where he fumbled majorly. Hillary fumbled majorly as well. The answer she gave on the public and private positions had me cringing and her seeming inability to defend accusations against Bill Clinton and the fact that she didn't attack him more on the video showed she was rattled a bit. She did however have a relatively solid performance with substance, but not as good as the first
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>>707358011
>why do people hate trump for making jokes over a decade ago

Same reason, because 95% of voters are too autistic to care about the real issues that affect them, it's too scary for them to ponder the fact that within 2 years of a clinton presidency there will be 5 million more smelly muslims who don't speak english leaching on our social programs.
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>>707374491
What case from 10 years ago? I'm not sure I understand. Are you talking about the video? That's not a legal matter...yet.
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>>707376236
/b/ is anarchy, /b/ hates everyone, we were the fucking hate machine, we would never have supported a presidential candidate until the hordes of summerfags and "le too edgy for reddit" tards started occupying this once horrible place. Now it's just right leaning 9gag, and it's because of people like you who honestly have no sense of the great deeds carried out by these faggots.

>/b/ just want to watch the world burn
>now it's about being the most edgy
>thereby supporting trump
What a diluted shit site this ended up as...
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>>707376964
/pol/ is full of Alex Jones paid shills. Not surprising they're for trump. Fuck trump, have hated him since almost a decade ago; he's a joke. Voting for Hillary solely so he doesn't get in the white house.
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>>707367440
https://youtu.be/Tor00iWUhDQ
Except she did. Do a better job using a search engine next time kiddo. All you have to do is type the words in the little box and press enter.
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>>707377203
>Clinton bring da mudslimes
>this is what's going to happen!!!!1 5 MILLION!!!11
>leach
>on american social programs
>american social programs
You're the joke here m80
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>>707377108
I wasn't talking about your judgement on the debate specifically, just the whole thing where people say their candidate won when it was actually pretty balanced or whatever.
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>>707377519
Does the ongoing Trumpster Fire not realize that when articles and videos are posted, people are capable of looking at them to see if they support what the headline or spin says? Because I've watched that video, and it absolutely does not support the narrative you think it does.
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>>707377339
damn you're old. is this what happens to btards after they realize they are old?
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>>707376236
>/b/
thats not how you spell /pol/
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>>707378110
>newfags GALORE
Saved for cringe threads, jesus fucking christ kiddos.
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>>707377872
Doesn't support the narrative I think it does?
You supposedly know what I think? Get your head out of your ass. She laughs in the video as she recalls the case and she admits she knew he was guilty. Get over yourself. You're pathetic.
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>pic related
>the news story that brought you here in 2007
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2177843/
best case scenario. worst case, link related. 2012. you wouldn't know what this place was if it literally fucked you in the ass with no lube.
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Clinton was put on a rape case because the defense thought a female lawyer would look good, then she took advantage of a technicality to have evidence thrown out. She abused the system and got her client off because upholding law was a sport to her and not a duty. Go listen to the video. She also hopped on the "But she was totally asking for it, bro!" train and tried to make a 12 year old girl shoulder the responsibility of a grown ass man's actions. Go read the transcript.

The thing that's bad here isn't that Clinton merely did what due process required of her, but that she went above and beyond to undermine the purpose of that system. She let a guilty man go because it got her rocks off. Plain and simple. There's no neutrality in what she did. Then she laughed about it.
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>>707378110
He's talking shit, actually. /b/ was overwhelmingly pro Ron Paul in 2007 and 2008, and hadn't had any sort of groupthink yet established for the 2004 election to have been considered either for a candidate or for anarchy. It simply hadn't been around long enough at that point.

So for at least 3 of the last 4 elections, possibly all of them, he's talking out his ass.
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I wonder if she knew she would be defending rapists as a wife as well
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>>707378987
Bill is a total /b/ro.

He does what we wish we had the power to do.
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>>707378567
>then she took advantage of a technicality to have evidence thrown out
That technicality was that the people examining the evidence had literally thrown it out. It's like when a kid says "my dog ate my homework."

>She also hopped on the "But she was totally asking for it, bro!" train and tried to make a 12 year old girl shoulder the responsibility of a grown ass man's actions.
Actually, her client said the girl had a history of seeking older men and making up stories about inappropriate conduct, and her background from a broken home supported that type of behavior coming from a child. So she did exactly her duty in requesting that the girl see a therapist to determine the validity of such a defense (failure to do that would have been a dereliction of duty, by the way).

She also didn't let a guilty man go, he plead guilty and got sent to jail, with the time he had already spent in prison counting toward his sentence.

What the tapes show her laughing about include a judge being highly unprofessional by asking legal counsel to not be present because he felt uncomfortable discussing the facts of the case in front of a woman, but at no point does she laugh at the victim or the crime.
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>>707378589
>thinking /b/ has a single mindset
That's where all of you fags fucked up. That "we are anonymous" bullshit was a JOKE. It was a shit tier meme at best, and the reason it was FUNNY was because NO ONE on /b/ can agree on ANYTHING. Case in point, this entire thread. So we didn't agree on one candidate, on one cause, or on one way to hack this or that. The joke was that there was no unity here to be observed, thereby making the concept of unity LAUGHABLE at best. Those "we are legion" threads used to get trolled to fuck and back because no one took any of that shit seriously. One rogue acting on his own, hacking into X, doesn't mean that there was a social movement behind it. But faggots on reddit thought those jokes were serious, and Occupy Wallstreet fell to shit so the tumblrites needed a new "movement" to follow and 4chan became it.

And now we get newfags showing up en masse with 9gag and imgur memes, bitching about their own culture shock as soon as they got here. Oldfags are pissed because this place had to change into reddit 2.0 to protect newfags feely feels.
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>>707377854
Oh gotcha. Thanks for clarifying.
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>>707368193
I don't give a shit about that because who actually cares? She was a lawyer that was her job. She's done plenty of other things that cast doubt on what she says and whether shed be a good president
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