Alright /b/. I've been having some weird luck with the ladies lately. I like to watch women get fucked by animals, im also in gangbangs, dp, pet play, blood play, rape, incest rp and other taboo stuff.
This past week I've found myself coming into contact with two ladies who are down for it. Like completely down. For everything I'm into. Is it common for chicks to be into beastialty and gangbangs? I've dated and fucked maybe 20 women in my life, I'm 24. I need to know how common this is for you guys.
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Based on lack of feedback, not too common. Me being open and forward with these ladies is also only the second time I've been so honest about what I'm into. And the first time I got rejected hard over it. So 2/3 is pretty good. Whats everyone else's success rate!? Please help, I need to know how common this is, it may or may not help decide how open I should be to women I meet from now on.
Is beastiality illegal?
Not common at all from my experience, almost a null success rate
>>707178784
In some places it's considered animal cruelty punishable by fine if caught. I don't do it, I just like watching chicks get fucked by animals, sue me, its hot af. In Michigan it's legal btw. As well as a few other states.
>>707178803
Guess I'm just lucky af then holy shit this is awesome. I'm literally about to have two slave gfs at the same time, who will obey my every command and they're totally ok with this. This is literally the best week of my life.
>>707179104
You're in for the best weeks of your life. What state did you find them in?
>>707179104
Fuck Yeah fuck women's rights but is it illegal to w
At he I used to watch it but I stopped because I figured it was
>>707179364
Alabama
>>707179364
Unconsciousness
>>707179394
Fuck women's rights wtf? This has nothing to do with that dude. I just have some fucked it kinks and happened to find two chicks down to both be my gf's and let me indulge in whatever the fuck I want with them whenever I want. I'm not even rich or anything like that. I'm so amped up on this shit hahhs
>>707179553
What are you talking about?
>>707179644
What are you gonna do if a shit storm happens
I'm so jealous anon
>>707179754
Shit storm won't happen, these ladies get off on being used by me and abused by me.
>>707178026
Gangbangs?
Cuck
>>707179692
What are YOU talking about?
>>707179792
This is the payoff for being open about how fucking weird you are, you eventually find women who are also weird af. Yes, you may get rejected, I was and I was scared to try again for years but I finally sucked up the courage and I'm coming out way ahead.
>>707178642
Works two out of three times, guaranteed
>>707178026
The fantasy is fairly common. Most won't admit to the first unless they're with someone they're sexually comfortable with who has admitted it themselves first, or in a situation where they feel there's no risk of being judged.
Crossing the line into actually doing either, especially the first, is far less common.
>>707179899
I dont like doing gay shit, I just like objectifying my girlfriends from time to time as fuck holes for anyone of my friends or family members to use as they please. It's fun and I get off on it.
>>707178026
You're a weird guy, OP, but you're pretty cool.
>>707179553
Kek
>>707179906
How common this luck is what I am talking about.
>>707180065
Yeah both admitted to never having done it, but both have agreed to let me tie them up and have my dogs fuck them after I do .
>>707180106
Lol thanks bro. I'm aware of how weird it is and how nonchalant I go about talking about this.
>>707179846
Ahh, I fondly remember being young & naive regarding women.
A shit storm will certainly occur, just not when you expect it, and certainly not over what you think it will be about.
E.g. Fucking two girls who like to be abused, humiliated, & degraded? No problem, m8. You casually mention an ex you once took to the opera == GET READY TO RUMBLE!
Best of luck to you, OP, you magnificent bastard
>>707180275
Video it anon?
>>707180647
Oh no I'm aware of how touchy girls can be dude. I thought you were referencing the sexual stuff being cause to a shit storm. 8 expect it to be something like forgetting to get spinach on the way home or something. It's coming, idk when, but it's coming.
>>707180708
That's not going to happen. Maybe some pics, but that's about it.
>>707179104
Threesome. Make it happen
>>707181076
That's already in the cards. I thought I made it clear that they're ok with both being my gf at the same time, and us all doing explicit things together.
>>707181155
I want pics and sharpies then
>>707178026
OP you need to finish by cumming inside both of them. No matter what you do. Don't let them pee after either. Make them make out with each other while they carry your seed in them. But make sue you make both orgasm as well before you do. They'll come back for more trust me. Alpha as fuck.
>>707181216
Dude I literally don't care to prove shit on here, I came here for a statistic as to how often shit like this happnens. F it's often then I'm going to continue being more open as it's apparently working in my favor tremendously
>>707181329
You think I didn't already think of this? I'm totally doing this after I get them on birth control.
>>707178026
Dude I want to believe this, but I really don't.
So you think you have 2 women you barely know who will allow animals to fuck them for no money? Uh I think the chances of this actually happening (as opposed to just discussing a fantasy) is practically zero
>>707180919
Yeah man. I'm not that 1st guy (who might have meant the sexual stuff leading to a storm of shit proportions), but I did have an irl gf + 2 online gfs all at once. They all knew & "were cool," until the dumbest thing set them off. I had split with the irl girl for a while, & the 2 online girls got mad as hell when I got back together with irl girl. Plus they were mad i was with the irl girl first.
What?
Anyway, enjoy it while it lasts, bro.
What made you decide to be so direct & forward with these girls, anyhow?
>>707181659
That's fine man, I am totally not going to care about how much you don't believe me. And you know what? Maybe you're right maybe they'll get cold feet and back out. But if they don't, then it's gonna be lit fam.
>>707181579
A lot of boys don't.
Fuck birth control. You say whatever you want right? No birth control. Make them deal with the aftermath. Be a lion among clan.
>>707181465
It's shit storm bro here again.
Another tale for you, my good chap. I had two gfs once irl, too. One was "polyamorous" and "totally cool with" me having two gfs. I was completely open with them, then it turns out the "cool girl" was actively trying to sabotage everything. Including sex between me & her. Just a rotten cunt all around. That's the last time I'm ever going to be completely open with girls - I learned that the hard way.
>>707181765
Oh, yeah I hope no stupid shit like that happens but j suppose it's probably inevitable. I decided to be more open with the women I talk to because I literally don't care anymore. I don't want anything to do with anyone that doesn't know what I'm into. Now that does NOT mean that I don't want anything to do with someone that won't do what I say all the time etc. but I'm laying my cards on the table from now on. I don't give a shit anymore. If it scared them off, fine. If they're into it all, cool, if thy like me but they're not into some of that stuff, 5$/6: fine too. I'm ok with compromising. I'm just not going to hide anymore. It's stupid and pointless and idc of it grosses women out anymore.
>>707182034
I'm not a boy. I'm a man lol. And no o don't want to deal with pregnancy shit again, birth control all day.
>>707182133
Why shoot yourself in the foot? Just kick the bitch out and replace her with another girl who is down for the threesome. Or foursome.
>>707182133
Thaybone experience ruined being open forever for you? Man that sucks. I'm just done not being open. It sucks. How can I love life to the fullest if I don't actively try to regularly?
>>707182358
Interesting. Maybe part of the reason you're having such luck is your more confident attitude. Some girls really respond well to that "I'm not trying to impress you cuz I don't give two fucks" vibe.
>>707182488
I second this.
>>707182443
You don't get it.
Good example I found a chick who was into raw shit. Even if she got knocked up she'd just get it aborted. Took mad ecstasy and drank with and came in her all night. Sent her ass home and never saw her again. Lol good times.
>>707182443
Amen to birth control.
If they do what you say, load up on that shit - two methods at least. Best if you can hit that raw, still, without worrying about consequences.
>>707182579
Yeah that's true. But I didn't think women would oblige to this kind of stuff so easily just by being confident about it.
>>707182579
Also alcohol helps. I suggest vodka. Get them impulses going in them.
>>707182674
That's kinda stupid. Birth control master race all day.
>>707182488
Yeah man, I eventually did kick her to the curb. Just took a long time to realize, since she was really conniving about it all. I'm still realizing the ways she screwed with me, and that was years ago.
>>707182690
Yeah I'm gonna go get my balls snipped ASAP. I already have two kids, I don't want anymore.
>>707182798
A couple of drinks isnfine, but I don't want them to be slurig their words and being all around fucking retarded. I want our times together to be as sexy as possible.
>>707182674
I've never met a woman who would abort. Never. Don't worry, my man, I'm sure she'll hit you up for support in a year or two
>>707182896
Damn, sounds like she had some deep seeds issues I couldn't even begin to fathom. Maybe she was a victim of incest as a child or something idk.
>>707182837
It's not stupid if you come correct with your prey.
>>707183115
Same, both women I've knocked up wouldn't abort and both filed for child suppprt, not doing that shit no more, no way.
>>707183140
Pretty sure you don't know what you're talking about.
>>707183115
She aborted twice before. Again you have to choose your females correctly for this kind of risk.
>>707182562
You know it. Oh, I'd still have a threesome or fuck two girls at once, I just wouldn't tell either of them about the other one, that's for sure. Yeah, it kind of does suck. I really would have liked the poly thing to work in real reality
>>707183273
Very sure. Done it before many times. Depends where you live I guess. Many women do not want kids whatsoever. By your logic that they would never abort then the abortion debate would be mute.
>>707183300
Women are entirely inpredictable. Just because they've aborted before doesn't mean they won't all of the sudden fall in love with you and think she can convince you to have a family with her even though you made it explicitly clear you do not want that. Then they keep the baby as leverage to try and get you to be with them and get married and shit. It's literally happened to me twice. Women are entirely unpredictable.
>>707183300
Then she is truly a rare breed. Or should I say "a rare non breed" bahaha aaaa ahhhh hhhhhh
Really though, she's kind of like a unicorn, or some shit
I think that being submissive to the point of near sex slave is a pretty common fantasy. I reckon you'll find out pretty fast whether they're serious or if they just think they're badder bitches than they really are. I'd bet one if not both of them panics when the dog gets involved.
>>707183344
It could still work man. You'll never know if you don't keep trying. Like how almost n one married their first gf, you can't expect your first poly experience to be smooth sailing.
>>707183450
I didn't say they would NEVER abort. I said I'm not risking it.
>>707178950
Uh, Illegal in Michigan
>>707183554
She is. We have a great friendship since HS too. But most girls I fucked think the same way. They are kinky but have priorities in order.
>>707183567
They're not really "bad bitch" types. You're right they'll probably get cold feet, but if they don't then this is gonna be awesome and literally a dream come true.
>>707183503
Lol I'm not going to court if they choose to turn on me I can do the same. I'm not signing anything. Gotta be ruthless dude.
>>707183794
My bad dude I meant Wisconsin. I stand corrected. Because that's where Whitney Wisconsin is from. Sorry about that ma dude(s), 8' pretty NOT sober right now.
>>707183121
Nope, not a victim of anything that I know about. I knew her in jr high, then got with her after uni. She became a lesbian somewhere in between, but was still able to fuck me (for a while, at least). Had some sob story about how sex with her husband felt so wrong because she was actually a lesbian, but then would stop in the middle of sex with me because "the energy was off". One time it was because the ghost of her grandmother was inside her, or some woo woo bullshit. And I'm a Witch, so you really know her woo woo was fucking out there.
Jeebus, I still shudder.
>>707183817
Where the fuck you finding the priority ladies?!
>>707183919
Or just put them on birth control and not deal with any of that bull shit.
>>707183722
Ok then this conversation is finished. The topic is about the thrill of risk as well. That's what gets these women off. It's partly psychological.
>>707183817
Good on you, m8.
How do you weed out the undesirable ladies, though? Most women I've met SAY they want choice & SAY they'll abort when pressed, but it's the exact opposite in practice
>>707183985
Holy shit that's one wacky out woman. Glad you got away from her. What a coincidence, I too am a witch. I'm out of practice but I am. I was born into it.
>>707184073
Then the thrill is not there. The risk is part of the thrill and literally was what they got they're fantasies off on.
>>707183999
New York City
>>707184074
I don't get off on risk, I get off on group sex, beastiality, daddy daughter rp, rape rp, pet play and shit like that. The risk of having more kids than I already have is not fun all. It's fucking terrifying fuck that
>>707183654
Very true, my dude. Very true.
The girl I'm with now is VERY monogamous, though. So no chance at all with her. With her, I'd have to full on cheat, with all the secrecy involved.
Another set of women might work, but I'd have to leave her first, and that's not in the foreseeable future.
>>707184229
No it's not, they were the ones that told me I should bring condoms because they're not on birth control ffs. If that's what get you off awesome, not me or my ladies and you are literally never going to convince us otherwise. You do you, we'lll do us.
>>707184540
Hey man if you're happy with her then who needs polygamy? That's the point of polygamy though right? To be open to any possible scenario of relationships? Even if that means falling into a monogamous relationship because you're really into someone. Be happy bro, that's what matter.,
>>707184254
It's settled we are off to NYC
>>707184202
Totally. She made it sound very reasonable at the time, & I'm all about "respect & understanding" (too much, at times, I guess). It wasn't till later I started to see what was going on.
Then she'd try to get caught & screw things up with the other lady. Just one long shit storm. Glad to be rid of her.
Cool, m8. I'm out of practice, too. Not born into it, but drawn to it my whole life. Self dedicated around 2001. Never joined any groups or covens, but I was part of a shamanic healing group for a while with this really cool shaman leading it. I miss that.
I really should do more workings & observances, but it's hard to find the time, ya know?
>>707184857
Captain James T. Kek
>>707184591
Nobody is trying to convince you. I'm just telling my story because ppl asked. Everything I told were triple stories and honest answers. Good luck dude lol. I understand my risks and I'm fine with them. Life is short if I spawn children it was meant to be. Again. Build communication with your women. If shit goes south it'll make your life easier to contain them.
>>707184772
You make a lot of sense, m9.
Thanks for that, it actually makes me feel a lot better about my situation.
>>707185068
Yeah I know exactly how hard it is to find time. I'm a single father I ain't got time for that haha. I do some stuff with my mom from time to time but it's pretty rare.
>>707185169
Holy shit diamonds
>>707184128
I feel them out. I talk to them. It takes time. It's a skill. I also did finance sales so I talked to thousands of ppl over the phones and in person. It's confidence, conviction and finding a girl who is also controllable. If you don't feel comfortable in your shoes then don't try this at home. Girls and the world will eat you alive.
>>707185211
I build communication, the two women I knocked up just happened to change their minds from what we had agreed upon haha.
>>707178026
>the stories and information presented here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take them seriously.
Why did you go to 4chan /b/ to tell lies that you hope make you look cool? Consiter yourself under suspicion
>>707185284
Good man, that's what I'm here for, to help people out, even when I'm posting on 4chan asking how common my taboo fetishes are with women hahaha.
>>707185471
Wow dude, that's rough. Respect.
Remember you don't have to have a formal ritual to do workings. Even something simple like fixing a snack for the kid can be a chance to move some positive energy
>>707180995
still waiting for some pics, pretty please?
>>707185673
Neat. Guess how much illegal shit I'm doing buzz killington?
>>707185639
That's when you get ruthless with them. Unless you don't mind caring for kids. I will not be strong armed into that shit. You want women's rights? Fine. Your choice to keep the child. Enjoy being a single parent.
>>707185541
Cool. I'm in sales, too, but more with farmers & such.
You're right, selling is very similar to meeting women. It's after you've closed the deal that things can go sideways with women, I find.
The important thing you've taught me is it takes time.
>>707185800
Thanks man.
>>707183837
Right, but you know what I mean. It's like that "oh fuck what have I done moment" you see in facial abuse videos right before they start crying. Hope it works out though /b/ro. Shit would be cash, and I'm not even into bestiality (I am very into having totally submissive and abused sex slaves however).
>>707185788
Ha! I guess good stuff can come out of the weirdest places
>>707185673
Why is this guy being a faggot? I'm genuinely curious about this. Wtf am I doing that's so concerning to the FBI? This is that shit that drives me up the wall and fucks with my anxiety. I hate this shit. I'm just here to get some advice and discuss my love life with some fellow /b/tards. I'm not like a fucking pedo or rapist or something.
>>707186166
Anytime, bro. Best of luck to you & blessed be
>>707186217
Ultra cash ma dude. Thanks for the positive vibes.
>>707186287
For real man. This thread is pretty cool. It got a lot cooler than I anticipated.
>>707185673
There's not even any funny tabs on the top of your screenshot.
Lurk moar, newfag
>>707186503
Namaste
>>707186683
I'm actually pretty rustled he sent in an anonymous tip over this. Trolling can be fun and shit, but this guy is bent a faggot.
>>707186668
Yup, who would have thought /b/ would be into a constructive discussion about kinks & fetishes? Rock on /b/tards
>>707187026
I expected a lot more fucking fags like mr. Anonymous FBI tip.
>>707186910
Don't sweat it. It's probably "baby's first Google image search" instead of an actual screenshot of a real tip.
>>707187219
Even if it was, the odds are of the FBI going out of their way because. Of s beastiality fetish is pretty slim. They got way bette shit to do, especially since no crime has even been commuted as of now.
>>707187117
You said it. Don't worry, I just reported his tip reporting
>>707185673
>>707187526
What's funny is that beastiality is a state misdemeanor.
>>707187444
I'm not American, but I'm pretty sure bestially isn't a crime everywhere there, nor is it a federal crime (I think). And probably something the SPCA / PETA would be a billion x more likely to investigate than the federales.
Ahh, nm. You beat me to it
>>707187784
>>707187444
Oh wait, i just realized it wouldn't even be you doing the bestially! It would be the girls. So there's even less for professor Buzz Killington to report.
"Dear FBI, I'd like to report a raging faggot on the 4chins..."
>>707182674
Thats awesome, all your future genetics getting killed. You win at life
>>707187856
Yeah it's a slap on the wrist here. I don't think let's would get mad. I'm not gonna force my dog to do anything. My gfs are gonna bend over and sick my dick while in all fours and if my dog mounts them then awesome, it's gonna be sexy, and he'll be happy as hell gettting off cumming in my gf's. If no mounting occurs then whatever im not going to hit him or anything, I love that dog and would never hurt him.
>>707185968
Being alive is illegal.
For you
>>707188142
For real man, what is the FBI gonna do? Nothing, because there's nothing to do, nothing they want to do, because I didn't do anything but watch some sexy shit go down irl
>>707186007
Except its the Govt chases you for child support, not the girls. The law is what it is. Also good luck explaining to your grown kids why you were such a deadbeat dad. That'll be a fun conversation
>>707188541
For real. The govt come after you bad. They did with Jennie they garnish my checks if sucks. I'd literally rather hand my ex's cold hard cash, which I was and then they filed anyways because that's how much life sucks.
>>707188281
Nice man. That's treating your puppies right (both the human and the four legged kind, ha).
I couldn't imagine hurting my kitties, either. You're a good dude.
Doggos will probably recognize a presenting female in heat. They're pretty smart.
>>707188902
Thanks for the kind words bro. I don't see what's wrong with what I'm doing at all. I'm literally sharing my women with my dog and giving him the choice to fuck their brains out with me or not. How the duck is that abuse?? Everyone is happy and winning in this situation.
>>707189196
No worries, m8.
Sounds hunky dory. Enjoy it while you can.
Where did you meet these girls, btw? Like, in a bar or at school?
>>707189196
I dunno man what are you gonna do if one of the girls gets pregnant and has half-human puppies
>>707186107
>>707186107
Not always.
I met a girl in school and offered to go to a bar with her.
Long story short I fucked her in the back of her mustang. Same day.
How'd we start talking? She gave me a few glances. I asked a silly question about our new teachers name. She laughed. I kept talking. Offered to go to a bar after class. We fucked and drove drunk in her mustang. All on day one. Fucked several times after.
>>707190142
Yes! Inter species kids, like those inter species people on star trek (half human half Klingon, for example).
Nevermind that species literally means "incapable of breeding together."
Sorry, just watched the new star trek movie tonight, and that always bugs me in that universe.
>>707186910
The Fbi does not give a fuck about beastiality..... Send tips all you want.
>>707190372
Cool. School was always an easy place to meet women.
I can't believe no one asked, but any more pics of the two girls?
>>707188145
I do. One day I'll raise a family. Today is not one of those days.
>>707188541
How can you chase someone for child support without court proceedings. You need DNA testing and unless they can get a court order, which can be appealed and fought forever, you can't prove paternity. No proof. No child support.
>>707190574
It really is. So are bars and clubs.
>>707190919
Not necessarily. Ianal, but I believe the burden of proof lies with the father to prove he's not the father. I think that's how the screwed up north American legal system works, heavily skewed in favor of the mother.
>>707179553
Kekd
>>707191047
I've never tried bars & clubs. I find it really hard to talk over the loud music.
Any tips for the bar/ club scene?
>>707188812
By handing her money in cash and probably acknowledging this fact in court you fucked yourself. You need DNA testing. Also did you sign your name on the birth certificate?
>>707191215
Um no. People can then just claim any guy as the father and then they have to at child support. What if you never fucked her? Bullshit.
>>707190919
Dude you're wrong. She names you on the birth certificate, you're getting chased for child support. There's no court proceedings. If you want to get DNA tested or go to court, that's entirely your call but the law doesn't care a bit
>>707191518
That happens, and you then have to get DNA done to defend yourself. But if it proves you are the dad then you're still liable
>>707191518
You've never seen the system at work when you're the "father," I take it? It's royally screwed up. Everything is there for the mother's benefit & the man has almost zero rights (except visitation / access). Obviously I can't speak for all circumstances, but personally, it was pure hell.
The only place the man has rights is in a hospital or medical setting, and then only if you tell them you ARE the father. I'm pretty sure medical staff don't communicate with the courts, so there probably is no negative ramifications from that, but you never know. If you don't say that, you're denied all information & rights there, too.
It really is sad.
Haven't had any luck like OP? Is broaching this topic as simple as asking or should you have serious rapport first? I think OP's success stems from the fact that there was almost a total lack of rapport. I feel like a relationship with a woman can be as a much a help or a hindrance to getting laid.
>>707191332
Sit and smile. Make eye contact. Feel out her mood and facial expressions. When you the moment to say something. Strike. You win some you lose some. It's a numbers game. Same applies for bars and clubs. Clubs are easier though. They're probably very drunk. Very horny. Sometimes you can just slowly dance they're direction into they're personal space then if she feels you you can start to hold her. Then at times try to chat her up. If she feels you still, ask closing questions. Are you here with someone blah blah, then close the deal. Ask if she wants to go back to her house.
Raves are the easiest.
>>707191757
I guess then it depends on the state. The mother can't just name anyone they want on a birth certificate. The man has to put his own name on it.
>>707192045
Cool, thanks for the tips, bro. Gives me some things to try out next chance I get. Not many clubs here, but I'll keep my eyes peeled.
L8r m8s, thanks for a groovy thread
>>707191958
Or is it a more of a devil may care attitude?
>Tfw I came too late for the thread
Thanks anyway m8s
>>707178784
>>707192338
Yeah I don't claim to know every law in every state. But I think if she wants to claim welfare as a single parent, she has to name the father. That's the law, or she gets no welfare. This is so the state can try and get money off the father rather than pay for the child through taxes.
She can't leave the birth certificate blank if she's claiming welfare, so if you're the father then she's naming you, and it's on you to prove you're not
>>707192489
Your welcome.
Remember it's confidence, conviction and the way you speak to women physically, vocally and mentally. Look at this thread, I'm not even OP but you were all replying out of great interest. Why? Because of the way I carried myself here. And this is a fucking chat board. It was so easy.
Keep all these tips in mind and the women will be no match for you. Be an alpha. A lion. Remind them mentally who the man is. The woman have power, but so do you.
Learn to utilize your power as a man and these women will be no match for you.
>>707193169
That sounds insane. So every broke ass gold digger can name a rich person on the birth certificate. It wouldn't last long, but some women will definitely do that if given the opportunity for a quick buck.
>>707193359
Dude why you think so many guys get stuck paying child support for fucking 18 years? The system is 100% against you, don't think it's all "she needs proof". It's the guy who needs to proof
>>707193813
I can attest to this. Even those planned parenthood places that offer free pregnancy testing - went there & was immediately separated & ignored while they took the woman in for talking & testing etc. I didn't trust her & wanted to see her take the test, but I didn't even get a chance to talk to anyone until after they were through with her. That was just the first step, too. The rest was equally against the guy. Take it from me (Canadafag, btw)
This thread should be more about engaging women in their sexual fantasies and less about paternity, family law and child support.
>>707193813
Then you either fucked up somewhere like put your name on the birth certificate then denied paternity, which in case your a moron. Or your not the father and a moron who didn't go to court and decided to be stuck paying for 18 years. Women cannot just decide to pick any man they want to name on a birth certificate. They're would be huge backlash in the public over that. It's not logical.
>>707194450
Dude this thread was hijacked long ago.
>>707194450
I'll hijack it back then.
What sexual fantasies do you guys come across women requesting that you feel weird about?
>>707194633
>>707194633
I know. It's really a waste. Someone makes a comment and going in raw and bareback and then if was ruined.
No one gives a fuck if you're the putative father. If a woman has sex with you, on some level, she's done the erotic arithmetic and she's probably okay having your kid. I don't want to wade into shit fest.
I want to talk about convincing women to embrace their kink.
>>707194970
Thank you so much.
Uh, nothing yet. Most of the women I've dealt with are vanilla af
>>707194491
Like I said, to claim welfare they have to put a father's name on the birth certificate, or they do not get welfare. This is so the burden of raising kids is on the parents, not the state.
If it's you who's the dad, they'll put your name on there. Then it's up to you to prove you are not the dad. That's exactly how the law works in my state
>>707194970
But theoretically I would be bothered by an open relationship or more particularly cuckolding. That would null and void a relationship so fast for me.
I dated a girl once who told me she thought cuckolding was funny. She was obviously fishing.
>>707194970
I'm pretty kinky, so I've yet to have a woman request anything I wasn't totally down for.
In fact, it's pretty rare for women to request much, I find. Maybe I need to bring out their inner kinkster, somehow.
>>707194970
Most girls are not kinky, because girl's have a lower sex drive generally (except for a few days around ovulation).
There are girls with crazy kinks, but they are definitely in the minority. Probably around half of all girls dislike even normal stuff like blow jobs and anal
>>707195437
>bring out their inner kinkster
Hell yes, the plot of this thread has been re-established.
I'd like Maury Povich and Daykwan to take their discussion about paternity elsewhere. It's not interesting.
>>707195693
Eh there's also a huge shame factor too.
>>707195988
Yeah probably. I mean, for some kinky girls, the shame is all part of what makes it good. But if they don't have the shame-kink, then that's a big hurdle to doing much different stuff
>>707196305
I think it deals with how a woman feels she's perceived. If she's okay with being perceived as a kinkster whore, a piece of fuck meat, then she's pretty liberated. really. Otherwise most women couldn't handle it. Also women artificially inflate the price of sex with shame. I'll explain if you like .
>>707196653
Sure man, explain away
>>707197086
So, women very much have a sort of her mentality very rapport based and communal. What better way to discourage your opponents and to drive up the cost of sex (what can I get out of someone for having sex with them) then to use shaming techniques and slander? Trust me. Calumny goes along with women from men but especially from other women.
>>707197409
*herd mentality
>>707197409
Interesting. I know shame is really ingrained in sex, even basic vanilla sex, for so many women. Like, they think just the act of having sex is degrading, and that's before any kinks or anything