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do you fear death?
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yeah

but for the sole reason of no longer having consciousness

not because i love myself, or anything like that

im a balding, short faggot who has a shitty job.

but just the idea of no longer existing in any sense is scary to me.
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>>706826286
No, I only fear the pain of dying.
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i don't believe in death. only decay.
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>>706826286
I think everyone fears death no matter how persistent they are in saying they don't. The most commonly said thing by survivors who jumped off bridges was that they immediately regretted it.
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>>706826286
Hell no, I see death as an insurance, if shit gets too tedious I can always tap out.
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not if its instant
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>>706826286
HELL FUCKING YEA.
You dont come back from that shit NEVER.
I mean it, people talk about it like its not that big of a deal and that you wont know and some much other shit but let me tell you why its scary as fuck.

Once you die you will never exist, i mean never, you cant eve phantom how endless it will be.
Once you're gone you wont ever exist.
million years will go by
billion years
200 trillion years no matter how many years go by you wont exist it'll be endless abysses never to exist again.
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>>706826286
The hardest part about dying isn't knowing that the party is over, it's knowing that the party is going to go on and you can't stay.
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yes, because I won't be able to see people I love anymore. and if I die before my wife, she won't have me anymore. I have to be afraid of that, always.
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>>706827129
Well until you were born you never existed either for eons. Besides, when you're dead you won't care, because you're dead.
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I dont fear death because there is awaiting me 72 virgins.
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>>706826286
I fear life
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I fear what happens after death, not death itself. Death itself i'm not going to feel, but rather what scares me is the nothingness afterwards. Of course it wouldnt matter then since im dead and dont exist anymore, but it disturbs me now. Hopefully we can slow aging or maybe even stop it within my lifetime, which is why im studying genetic engineering. Hopefully with the relatively new CRISPR technology we can accelerate that and maintain permanent youth, or at least a couple of million years (realistically a hundred or more before someone dies of an unnatural cause, statisitcally). I would like to live forever, and im willing to sacrifice it all, to keep my bodies consciousness intact. Robots and "brain uploading" makes no sense, since its not you anymore, because its like saying im going to upload my liver to the internet. Its also not going to be you, since consciousness is direcrly linked to your brain, and its the repeating moments of existence that defines a persons consciousness. You interrupt that, with death or teleporting or whatever, you are no longer you. The only answer is biological immortality with nanotechnology removing cancer (since cancer is inevitable if you live indefinitely), and replacing body parts with resilient robot parts (except the brain, for obvious purposes).
Sorry for wall of text.
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>>706827396
I already addressed that, no matter what people say even mark twain who made the quote i believe you heard before "I was dead millions of years before i was born and it didn't bother me the slightest bit"...when he was getting close to death he was trying to believe in an afterlife.
And no matter what anyone says death is horrible
Im talking about ceasing to exist and never coming back into existence and that's NEVER
do you have any idea how long is NEVER?
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>>706828355
yes, not the anon youre replying to but i agree. the scary thing is whay happens now, and the idea itself. no one cares what they feel when theyre dead, because theyre dead and cant feel obv, but thats not the point. the point is fearing death while alive, which is a perfectly valid fear. i would say a primal fear, the most basic fear of them all, since all other fears stem from it whether consciously or not.
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>>706828355
>>706828688
checkn myself and you, that rng though
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No, just life.
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Just because I'm 'young'. Dunno how mom would handle it. Little brother. Etc. Say I had outlived my family, and no kids or whatever. Death would be peaceful.
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To all you faggots who fear of emptiness after death. You'r consciousness is processed in you'r brain so when you die the brain will simply stop working and you die without even knowing that you're already dead. There is no ''soul'' that will keep on living in the void, it's just some religious mumbo jumbo bullshit.
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I think what i fera the most about m'y on death, is leaving all the people chose loves me behind
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>>706827396
dont you have ambition be immoetal, thus to explore the universe, discover the nature of the universe with increasing scientific discoceries, colonize planets, be a master at many skills, meet alien races, and experiment with as much as possible?
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>>706826286
i don't fear death itself, but i fear of dying a painful / agonizing death
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gay
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>>706828321
anyone wanna reply? i wanna see some opinions on my views.
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>>706829058
Who knows ?
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>>706826286
yes. ...
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>>706829235
dont you have ambition leern english speak it god?
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>>706826286
i only fear STDs.
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>>706826286
If my death is instantaneous and did not know that some day morire not be afraid, but in this case if you have, because I know at any moment I´ll die and that make me think.

I just concentrate in everything I have to do or want to do, just I try to live as I want and can.
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>>706827129
this ...
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>>706829376
if you accept a "possibility" of something based on the mere fact that you can't prove it otherwise, then you have to accept literally the infinite other possibilities that you can't prove wrong either, which leads to contradictions. basically, theres a null position for a reason. some make a positive claim about death being the end of consciousness, and have evidence for it, since there has been no documented case of something without a brain having conscoousness or appearing to have it. but that is up to you to believe. but the main point is, dont believe in something just because you cant prove it wrong, it leads to contradictions.
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>>706826286
Anon... This is the scariest thing ever for me.

Often, I think about it, and always get crazy... I realy want to die when I'm asleep, 'cause, I'll don't kwon what is going on...
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>>706829644
im on mobile and my phone sucks, keys are tiny.
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>>706829826
I´ll die*
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>>706826286
Death might be a good thing. I'm in my early 30's and everything has become so redundant and predictable. If I read a new book; more than likely I already read something similar. See a new movie.... same old shit, but mixed and presented just a little different. Christmas, Halloween, and thanksgiving are the same shit over and over again,and it comes so quick. Last thanksgiving I actually skipped the family and decided to stay at a resort and casino to spice things a bit. Same with New Years; I went to Las Vegas instead of doing the usual. travel used to be exiting, now it feels all the same just in different towns. Can anyone relate? is this how it is when people get older? shit!, I have a neighbor who is 99 yrs old... fuck me! things must be boring as fuck for him, but he loves life and wants to make it to 115. Oh, and his wife and 2 out of 3 kids are already dead. I envy his outlook in life.

Not afraid of dying. However, I do fear having a painful death. I wanted it to be quick, and not from sickness.
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The way I see it, one of 4 things could happen when I die. Either there is an afterlife and I go to heaven or I go to hell, which I'm a fairly decent person so I'm not concerned. Another scenario is I die and from my brain shutting down, it creates some sort of afterlife simulation for me to cope with how I'm dying. Lastly, the lights go out and I cease to exist, but since I can't fathom what it's like to not exist, what's the point in fearing it?

It's pointless to be afraid of death. We shouldn't even be here to begin with.
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>>706830377
i hear ya.

you ever wonder what god deals with, in that regard?

being so bored of it all? that must suck.
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>>706830727
>shouldnt even be here to begin with
you are implying we are an accident, which implies intent. how does that make sense?
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>>706830942
I'm saying logically life shouldn't exist. Nor should freedom of will. It doesn't make any sense, but here we are. The point is none of this makes sense and I'm sure what happens after death makes equally as much sense.
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>>706826286
Afraid to die, afraid to live; what a way to exist.
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>>706831835
beautiful post

very simple and perfectly states our human existence

you take chances, you get burned. you do nothing, you have a meaningless existence.

nice, huh?
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>>706830858
god isnt real. religion is a socio-natural occurence among intelligent species. there is no evidence for god that cannot be explained with science, and what cannot be explained at all is best left alone until new evidence arises otherwise youll start believing in things that dont exist just because you cant prove they dont. theres also no free will, because to have a thought, emotion or action or anythinf you do be actually carried out by free will means you had to have had a thought emotion or whatever before that to have control over the next thought, thus going back ad infinitum to the point where to have free will you would have had to think a thought before you were conceived. this applies to everything and even acts that may seem "rebellious" or random. your actions and thoughts arw either random, determined, or a mix of both, neither of those give you free will. also, for god to exist in any meaningful way, he has to be within time and space, which is the very definirion of existing. otherwise you have a label with no meaning. also, even if it somehow made sense for god to exist outside space and time, there has to be a mechanism through which he interacts with the universe, which would automatically make him a physical being, otherwise leading to contradictions. finally, you have paradoxes that arise from absolute powerse, like omni-insertwhateverehere. example: can god make a rock so heavy he cannot lift? the question ks lerfectly valid, as you can apply it to humans, or anything coherent, can a human make a (bundle of) rocks so heacy he canr lift? yes. but why does ot not work with god? its because god is a poorly defined label that has contradixtions and makea no sense. finally, if you think im a fedoralibtard, im conservative/alt right and votng trump. im also so fuxkig drunk rigjt mow.
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>>706831438
again, there is no element of logic in nature since nature just happens. logic comes from the observation of nature (both in terms of the physical aspect and the purely mathematical aspect (that also exists physicially but within our collective brains)) and patterns.
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i'm not really afraid of death because i wont be conscious to experience it. I'm more scared of how i'd die e.g slowly dying of cancer or drowning.
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>>706828321
Problem with that is over population. Unless we can start colonizing space there isn't enough room for immortal humans, unfortunately. Btw I don't want to die but what can you do?
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>>706829058
Yeah, except there's literally no way to prove that. How can you say you know what happens after death with any conviction?
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I fear how i die more so than death as a whole. It's inevitable so why fear it
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>>706831438
also, free will doesnt exist. to have control over your thoughts you must have had a thought previous to that one that determined the controlled thought, but you end up regressing ad infinitum and end up having to have a thought befoee conception to have free will. youre actions are either a combination of determinism and chance, or one of those exclusively, neither gives you free will, unless you find another alternative that allows free will in any coherent sense. finally, even neuroscience has evidence we have nk free will, test subjects subconscious brain already knew what button they wjere going to press before the subject said and pressed it.
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>>706832536
population control with (although very cruel) wars, or another peaceful alternative is strict laws for giving birth to people. some sort of system that only allows you to have a child once someone else dies for any reason, emptying the spot and letting the next person in queue have the spot.
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That could work but then you walk the dinner line of who gets to have children. Scientists? Artists?
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>>706833203
Fine* line
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Thanks assholes, you just gave me an anxiety attack. I literally started sweating and I jumped up out of my chair and had to leave the room. This happen to anyone else?
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>>706833203
the ones who applied first i guess? seems the most fair. but the fairest isnt always the best method, so probably people with some sort of talent beneficial to the advancement of society, so their children are more likely to do the same.
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>>706826286
no but strangely enough i do t think there will be any answers if consciousness survives death. I thinking language barriers
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>>706826685
the fuck does that even mean?
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I don't fear death, but I fear for what comes after
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I know for a fact there is a life after death thanks to astral projection. Because of that, I'm not afraid of death itself, but I still wouldn't want to die in a painful way.
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No, losing grasp of life im sure wont be a pleasant trip tho
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>>706826286
>>706826442
this guy knows ^
I haven't existed for billions of years, I'm sure I can deal with not existing for another billion years, I'll come back eventually. You all will.
But not as yourselves.
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>>706833602
pseudointellectual "deep" world salad sophistry
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>>706826286
I'm already dead once. I don't fear death anymore. But pain...
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>>706832054
thats some good thought, but please start using paragraphs next time

i have my limits
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No, I fear old age. Your brain functions deteriorate, you don't remember things. Your body slowly becomes weaker and weaker until it's forced to stop functioning.
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I've been dead twice. Once drowned, once sunstroked. Both times I saw nothing profound. Human life is not precious. Truly, we are dust in the wind.
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>>706833673
unless you prove that astral projection is a thing, you cant even start saying astral projection proves an afterlife. you havent even started defining these terms in a coherent sense.
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>>706826286
No, i didn't mind the 13 billion years before my life either.
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>>706833841
sorry im drunk and on mobile
not a good xombination
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That is NOT the image I submitted.
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>>706827352
Tips fedora hitchns fan.
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>>706833865
My great grandpa is 90 and he still remembers everything, no problem speaking and he can beat my ass in street fighter anyday. It all depends on the person
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>>706834105
kek
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I think I'm more afraid of losing my mind, weather from anxiety or any shit like that. It's my big fear that one day I'm simply incoherent - my brother is a schizophrenic and when he's really bad it's like he's not even "there".

I guess the simple answer is yes I fear death, not only because you need to be alive to enjoy drugs but but I don't fear it in the esoteric sense because I believe once your brain dies, so does your reality.

Sleep without the dreams.
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>>706833948
there is no way for me to prove to you that astral projection is a thing. sure, I could link you an article or a page, but you still wouldn't believe it or criticize she shit out of it, because your beliefs are already carved in stone.
The only way to actually find out if it's real or not is to try it for yourself.
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>>706834153
hitchens was a great speaker, and a strong advocate of free speech and anti feminism bullshit. compared to the aheists nowadays, he was a god.
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>>706834377
i had a phase where i did believe in all of this, but then i came to the conclusion that this can all be explained logically, and it was explainable logically. im not saying this is just a phase for you, btw. just be skeptical.
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I don't like my life but I don't want to die, so yes I think I fear death
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id rather just die then think about dying everyday

such deep wow
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>>706830377
I feel the same, time goes by so fast and everything seems to be a copy of another. I feel like no one has creativity anymore and everyone is copying everyone, simply cause it works.
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Do you offer an escape?
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>>706834105
welp
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>>706834395
god amongst men.
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>>706833728
This " you will come back but not as you" or " you will reincarnate as someone else with no memory of your past self" shit fucking kills me. If you come back and can't remember who or what you were previously, it's not fucking you then is it. Get over yourself thinking you're so important or special that you deserve another go around. Youngsters.......
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>>706835298
Poor ol Davy Jones
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>>706826451
This
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>>706826286
not at all, I'm looking forward to it.
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>>706826286
Nope. I'll finally be able to have those last moments of pure regret and terror over my life ending. Along with my body shitting itself and none coming to my funeral. I can't wait.
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No. I want to die every day.
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>>706836327
I'm not talking about being who you are right now, you dumb fuck.
But I'm saying YOUR EYES will open again, and you'll be back from not existing, period.
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>>706826442
Would be relaxing...
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>>706827352
What fucking party? Seeing your friends and relatives die and succumb to addictions, illnessess? Waking up every day to a shit job just so you can pay rent and buy shit food? Do I need to continue?

Atoms in your body are part of the universe and that's billions of years old. No matter when you die you will be part of eternal cycle.
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This is great !

I like OP's pic, because when I stare at the sky at night, or picture of the universe, it gives me this fealing, almost the same as when I think about death.

It's awful, it scares me. Just thinking that one day, I won"t be anymore. One day, Ill be dead for so long that it's just like I wouldn't have even lived.

The same goes for the universe, it's dramaticaly big. Just look at this pic with all the galaxies, for a few minute, and imagine everything that's going on in just one of these.

I know the universe doesn't care about me, but I can't feel any other way about this. The only way out, is to not think about this.

I've always thought that thinking there was life after death was a survival mecanism, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. However I love life, even though happiness might just be a bunch of chemical reactions, or we could completely be simulated, that's part of the game and I like playing it. But ceasing to exist, I don't know, I can't really put word on it.
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No, for I am already dead.
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>>706826286


As a suicide candidate thrice I guess I have a certain respect for death, I've nearly bled out, I've overdosed, and I've jumped.

I'm not sure what keeps dragging me towards death, as I'm not sure if some divine intervention prevents me from it.
When I was bleeding to death I was saved by a friend who called the police, when I was OD'ing I had taken just ONE pill too few, and when I jumped my friends pulled me back in.

The closest I've ever been to going was probably bleeding out, and when it happened I felt this warm embrace and guiding voice, but it was broken by a cop coming in all call of duty-acting and fucking body slamming me because I had a knife in my hand.

I guess, to answer your question, that I repect death, and respect the fact that death comes when it is time for you to go. not when you decide it's time to go, because there is always a hinderance if it's not time yet
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>>706826286
Not in this life.
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>>706839106
I totally agree with you.
I recently had severe depression as I am a former christian. I was always told I matter and that I'm special, and I renounced my faith 3 or so years ago but it has been a slow process to fully grasp what it means to be alive and alone in the universe without a god.
If I were still christian I would be happy believing I have a purpose and I wouldn't be afraid of death. I can't say I'm still afraid now but I think I'm pitiful for humanity as a whole. The more aware we get of how alone we are the more depressing everything seems. I wish I could be an innocent christian girl again but I just can't see the world that way anymore.
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>>706839608
What pills did you eat and how many? Just curious, not really interested in suicide. What did they do in hospital? Don't you just throw up or pass out if you eat benzos for example but you are not going to die.
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>>706840239

I ate nearly enough quetiapine to put me into a coma, I think I ate around 9 blisters in total
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>>706840239


Oh, and at the hospital they charcoaled me so I puked a lot
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>>706838588
it would be nothing.
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>>706826451
Even that doesn't seem so scary some days.
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Na i dont fear it its part of life.
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>>706840418
>quetiapine
I think this is not going to work. You will just pass out and end up being vegetable at most.

I think you fail because your attempts are half-hearted. It takes a lot of strength to kill yourself, lot of force even if you are just a feeble pencilneck. Human body is very resilient, that's why world is full of people they spread like cockroaches.
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>>706840741

When I nearly bled out I had cut my arm wide open with a butcherknife, if that cop hadn't come I'd have been a fucking goner, and I would have been happy, life just had me at that time. I don't seek out death anymore though
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>>706828923
Most people want to think that, but it's usually not true. The elderly fear death too. Often more than the young, because they're much more likely to experience it soon.
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I don't know what will happen. Nobody knows what will happen. That is the only truth
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>>706840930
I couldn't cut myself. I feel weak even thinking about that.

If I would seek death I would find 9mm hand gun and shoot myself but at the moment I am not suicidal on any level.

On a mental level it is fascinating because life is mostly pretty crap and disappointing.
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>>706833728
Dying is just spinning the roulette wheel again, hoping for a better result, but without knowledge of any past or future results. It's been way too tempting to spin again lately.
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>>706841137

Seeking out guns in the country I live in is mostly a no go, you do it the hard way or you don't
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>>706826286
I fear being alive.
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>>706827129
>it'll be endless abysses
for whom?
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thinking about death has led me into depression for a year or 2. I am starting to make peace with the fact that death is inevitable.

I take comfort in the fact that before i was born, i did not exist and i have no memory of that so being death is probably the same.

I believe we are made out of billions of particles that one day will be part of other living things after i decay. The atoms in my body when i was a child have all moved on, i am constantly changing.

the only thing that make me ME is my memories. And memories are nothing but particles firing in my brain at certain paths.
When i die, this process stops and all that is left is history.

I sometimes take
comfort in knowing that history can not be undone. So i will always exist in the past no matter what happends.
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>>706826286
Nope, heavens gonna be lit
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I dreamed this morning, that i was tied up, pulled out of a van and then shot in the head. Except instead of waking up, I felt the bullet enter my head, felt an intense fire as if my brain truly had a hole burned into it just then. Then I shook it away and woke up, but I cant forget that feeling. How do you just ignore something like that I keep on living your life as normal? What was that?
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>>706826286
IDK, sometimes the thought scares me, but I have been in life and death situations and wasn't scared I guess yes and no
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No, I know what comes after. However, I am scared of hell.
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>>706833882
>life's not precious
>possibility humans are the only intelligent life in the galaxy
brilliant
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>>706826451

Can't imagine what it must feel like to actually hear my own bones breaking, blood coming out of my nose, mouth, ears, lungs punctured, guts ruptured, shit and piss running down my legs, brain shutting down from some catastrophic trama.
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>>706826451
>pain of dying

It's called living, anon.
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>>706841646

That was death, Jhon.
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Horrified, for two reasons.
I'm worry about how my family, friends and loved ones will react to my passing. I know it doesn't matter, with me being dead and whatnot, but it's still upsetting to think about what the people in my life will do once I'm gone.

And two, the thought of just total nonexistence after this life is... Well... Bleek. Really fucking bleek, and that's ignoring the fact that nonexistence is completely incomprehensible to me.
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>>706826286
Literally everyone fears death to some degree. That's just what happens in an ecosystem powered by natural selection.
Even the suicidals who claim that they don't care still fear death. That's why they don't kill themselves until the pressure of their sickness is overwhelming.
Even the religious who believe in a better afterlife still fear death. It's the fear of death that drive them to so easily accept delusional crap without any proof in the first place.
Death is hardwired into our brains as the worst thing that can ever happen. It's a simple concept to understand, though difficult to accept.
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I fear dying painfully, but not death.
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>>706829863
"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain an idea without accepting it."
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>>706842333
Kyle
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I am omnipotend and omipresent
gues who i am
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>>706842789
Mr. Skeltal?
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>>706842789
U are Lain or Cracky?
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>>706826286
I'm actually looking forward to it, but I'm not rushing it.
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>>706842789
harambe post-murder?
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>>706842997
and you don't seem to understand...
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>>706841993
>>the galaxy gives less than a billionth of a billionth of a percent of a shit about intelligent human life

Speaking objectively by the amount we've influenced things as a species, human life is barely even significant to the moon. Human life is only precious to humans, and that's okay. We don't need to be galactic special snowflakes just to feel better about this death thing.
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>>706826286
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I only care that my family is able to get by afterward. They will be devastated obviously. After that I just would rather die painlessly or even totally high. Non-existence doesn't bother me, I didn't exist for 13 billion years before this and it didn't bother me a bit.
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>>706841642
>>706841642

>Heaven

You're on 4chan...
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Lain is only true god
Belive in Lain who belive in you who belive in Lain
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>>706843288
ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWAH
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>>706842789
god
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>>706826286
Ever seen "The missing scarf"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-0Xy9HOaLg
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>>706842206
That was deep
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yeah, there's so much that I wont be able to do or see and I will miss so much in the future. Also it's pretty spooky thinking about unconsciousness.
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>>706843276
Yeah I usually keep my religious thoughts to myself
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>>706838885
Life is meant to be enjoyed. If you're not enjoying it, you're doing it wrong. It's obvious, son, you are doing it wrong.
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>>706827129
>can't even phantom
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>>706843614
Did someone say spooky?
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>>706826286
Kinda kind of not
>i fear the pain of dying unless my brains already releasing a river of dmt
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>>706843766
Life is meant to be survived, man. Enjoyment is just some secondary shit. Most people don't do so much of that.
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>>706828321
Take a high dose of shrooms or lsd to experience the death of your ego, you will still be there. Life and death is a cycle, going to sleep without waking up will be followed by waking up without going to sleep.
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>>706826286
Death itself no, the idea to live when all my loved ones have died is more frightening. Eventually everything dies and its good.
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>>706826286
Death doesn't exist. We are just big shit of matter. If can not be destroyed. But if you meant the moment I lose my brain function... nope. Sweet sweet nothing.
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>>706841646
I had a dream where i was ripped in half by some resident evil type thing while jumping a wide gap from one stairwell to another i could see my legs flying in different directions as my torso hit the ground it was a undergrould facility that had a enterance from my house which i was exploring. I woke up and looked for the entrance the beast has a skull with melting flesh for a face
Idk anon
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>>706826442
Idea of not existing calms me when I'm sad or upset.
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>>706843631
Ill address the elephant in the room your going to fucking hell if youre here
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>>706826902
We do not fear death, we are afraid of getting stabbed, jumping of a bridge or getting hit by train. These are causes of death, but not death itself.
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>>706826286
actually I crave death
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>>706827048
I'd like to experience slowly drifting away, so i can study tha nature of dying before I'm boned.
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>>706844852
How? I repent and confess my sins once a month even then I'm a good christian
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>>706844358
Like I said, you're just not doing it right. You really need a change in mindset if that;'s how you think. There is a party out there,m and you're sitting in Mom's basement missing it. But if you're just going to be a d-bag, stay home, the people at the party don't want you there to ruin the mood.
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>>706845109

Are you catholic ?
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>>706845229
Christian
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>>706845347

Yeah I get that, but catholic ?
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>>706845458
Protestant
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>>706845109
That's quite boring.. I mean going to confess to a priest so ofte. And what about that one or two things you are keeping from yourself because they are so embarassing?
I know you will confess those too sometime in the future, but thats so hard...

I tell you what. Buy an indulgence from me and you'll have 1000 years of purgatory removed. Deal?
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>>706828321
Okay anon i am on the same page. Actually I'm 17 and am so afraid of death that i am willing to dedicate my life to getting rid of it. The thing is I am pretty sure that I will waste it that way, anyways, I plan on studying genetic engeneering for the same damn reason.
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>>706845616

Oh, good. then you're going to hell
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>>706842206
/thread
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I suppose I'd rather die someday than live forever. I mean, I'd love to live a really long time, but life without death at all would be utter madness. See Kars from Jojo for an example.

All you can really do is be grateful for the time you do have and fill that time with as many pleasant and personally meaningful distractions as possible.
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>>706845109
>>706845642
Ow shit... protestant... you got me than.
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>>706845700
Protestants believe faith in Jesus is enough to absolve us of sin, but I still confess anyways
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>>706826286
I'm not scared of death at all. I accept it and would die for something if i had to.

I'm Terrified of what will happen after we die though. Could be nothing and that's what I'm worried about.
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>>706845913

Yeah, but protestants also believe that god abandoned us, that happened after the great flood, and don't give me no jesus crap after this, because that is just stupid
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no, but i enjoy life so i'd like to keep living.
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>>706826286
As long as I die of old age then i'm fine.
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there is no death. it's an illusion
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>>706826286
I do now that i have something to live for.
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You should be afraid of death, that is perfectly normal for a human being.

The reality is different though.
You have been non-existent and existent for eternity and you will be non-existent and existent for eternity.
It is all a cycle, forever.
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energy has no end, only a transferrence to another state
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it's nothing anyone should seriously worry about. it's the most natural thing imaginable and one of the few things we all really share. and besides, from a subjective point of view everybody lives forever. everything before or after your life only happens in your imagination. nothing of it actually happened or will happen to you. it's a construct made of stories you heard or stories you project to the future. you're experiencing all time there is. the moment you are born the world begins. the moment you die the world vanishes. and with it every form of existence and time.
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>>706826286
To be, or not to be, that is the question:
Whether 'tis Nobler in the mind to suffer
The Slings and Arrows of outrageous Fortune,
Or to take Arms against a Sea of troubles,
And by opposing end them: to die, to sleep
No more; and by a sleep, to say we end
The Heart-ache, and the thousand Natural shocks
That Flesh is heir to? 'Tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wished. To die, to sleep,
To sleep, perchance to Dream; aye, there's the rub,
For in that sleep of death, what dreams may come,
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
Must give us pause. There's the respect
That makes Calamity of so long life:
For who would bear the Whips and Scorns of time,
The Oppressor's wrong, the proud man's Contumely,
The pangs of despised Love, the Law’s delay,
The insolence of Office, and the Spurns
That patient merit of the unworthy takes,
When he himself might his Quietus make
With a bare Bodkin? Who would Fardels bear,
To grunt and sweat under a weary life,
But that the dread of something after death,
The undiscovered Country, from whose bourn
No Traveller returns, Puzzles the will,
And makes us rather bear those ills we have,
Than fly to others that we know not of.
Thus Conscience does make Cowards of us all,
And thus the Native hue of Resolution
Is sicklied o'er, with the pale cast of Thought,
And enterprises of great pitch and moment,
With this regard their Currents turn awry,
And lose the name of Action. Soft you now,
The fair Ophelia? Nymph, in thy Orisons
Be all my sins remembered
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>>706840198
When I was young I was envious of my catholic friend because he was not scared of death, and he thought he could see his grandmother in heaven, so he was not sad about her death.
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I fear the harsh truth, that what binds the our lucid mental state is a physical reality, the forces of life, particularly how at subatomic levels, the universal force of attraction combine to create molecules, stars, planets, build systems and can give birth to a self replicating self aware organism that sprouted from what i would assume is a jitter, a chaotic variance that can only be called life energy itself.
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Thank you OP for getting me zoned out again lel.

No serious, I get severe derealisation from thinking about it.
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>>706846584
Solipsism is not much of a consolation, unless one is extremely self-centered (...). I for one would prefer all things worthy and great persist after my own demise, which in the larger picture is of small account.
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>>706847247
you are right. still, your conception won't survive you.
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Make peace with it. As early as you can. Its the only true thing in this world. You were born, you will die.

Its a scary and depressing thought. But depending on who you believe in, there might be something waiting for you on the other side.
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>>706847943
How do you make peace with it though?
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>>706848257
accepting a lie is the same as admitting defeat.

hes suggesting that you might want to fill your life with things you enjoy so that your mind doesnt wander to dark plac- wait no hes telling you to be religious, so that your insanity grips you in forever.
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>>706826286
Theres no reason for a fear of death. You have to go sometime.

Im already fed up of life now so Id imagine Ill be pretty content in 30 years or so
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I agree with the fact that we won't exist anymore, that we are nothing in the universe, but what if we are in a kind of a "biological game " ? I mean we all think that our " deep myself " come from our brain. But imagine that our brain is not "us" but our brain are more like "antenna". and we are controling our body with a complex bio-orcanic bullshit without knowing it until this game is over. And all those "ghost" story or ppl remembering old lifes or all other weird stuff are just bug ?
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>>706826286
I fear nothing, death least of all.
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>>706826286
Does anyone here remember when Rome crumbled under Neros power?

Yeah me neither. That should answer your question.
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>>706833953
>13 billion

oh really? 13 billion? and where were you before 14 or 15 billion years?
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>>706848815
you must have a simple and deranged mind. its human nature to fear. if you dont fear anything you are either lying/12yo or a psychopath.
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Have you thought about that everything, time, exist currently in this place layered into billions and billions of slices, past, future and something else layered like an onion but your body is stuck into this slice and your mind can move bit more freely? That's why "future" doesn't exist but only as a current on which you can try blindy to steer towards... So things what happened in year 0 or 1800 are still happening but also the future is here.
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>>706849065
Log off
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>>706848512
>Im not telling you to be religious, I dont anything about your lives here. All im saying is there are many options from being religious to filling your life with the things you enjoy, friends, family, etc... Everyone is different.
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I do not fear death, and am eager to 'see' what happens. I may check out early, or ride it out. Time will tell.
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>>706849221
No... I am multidimensional being but my brain focuses the energies into one small pinpoint sand grain. This ultimately is here and now but at the same time I could meet my past or future self. At some point we are able to build a device which can contact and speak to those who are dead.
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>>706826286
Yea fucking terrified of it ever since I had a near death experience any one who says there not just wait till you feel the shear panic when your about to die worst experience in ma life man
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" When the life is the death isn't, and when the death is the life isn't. So you don't have to worry about that "
Btw talking about paradoxes : Nobody and nothing can prove there's a life ( or something ) after death. BUT nobody or nothing can prove there's nothing...
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I wouldn't if I knew what happens to my self-awareness when I die. I obviously can't remember not being alive, but it sounds fucked up if it disappears
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>>706849767
There is a dream like state in which all your memories from future and past are merging and you are going through them. This state could last hundreds of years. At some point your consioucness will dissolve into something bigger and next thing is that you are born into some other place and time. This is the cycle of life. Ultimately this life is series of suffering.
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>>706849935
Sounds nice to me. A clean slate. I have no problem taking my chances.
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>>706849767
I like that anon. Did you come up with that ?
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death itself? no. not at all.

do I fear dying? yes. It might be long and lingering, it might be painful, there's many unpleasant ways to die.

but do I fear the state of being dead? of course not.
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Yes and no, I believe in reincarnation but i'm not religious. However the issue with my belief about death is that it'd imply we have souls, and that we were placed into our bodies, and after death we're placed into another. Would that then mean there is a limited number of souls? And who picks the souls to go to which body? Is it random? I don't know, but for the mean time that's what I believe
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>>706846475
this is irrelevant you dumb shit

stop trying to be smart with out of context bullshit
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>>706850403
It is much more complex than that. This is simplified thought model. It's probably something what is happening but it is billion times more complex. There is no 'one' soul but lot more abstract level which is difficult to comprehend in this state.
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>>706833272
Yes.
Fuck the thought of no consciousness dude. Seriously.
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>>706850364
That's what a psychologist reply when a patient say he's worry about dying.
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>>706850553
I might look more into it, I was just thinking about it one night and went 'yup sounds good'
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>>706826286
I used to, then I did so much DXM I thought I died, (I didn't) and I realized not existing isn't that bad.
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I am pretty sure I dont fear death but I think I am not just ready for it yet probably
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>>706850935
Actually I lied, I still fear death, I just accept nonexistence after death.
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>>706833272
>>706850596
Just happened to me. I get anxiety attacks over this shit all the time actually. Its starting to ruin my life
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At the moment i fucking hope for it
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>>706826286
I do not.
I just feel sad for the people I would left behind.
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>>706849004
Nothing existed dumbass
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>>706851398
doubtful
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>>706851398
so you didn't exist either mega idiot
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Everything you do benefits you.
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Aubade
By Philip Larkin
I work all day, and get half-drunk at night.
Waking at four to soundless dark, I stare.
In time the curtain-edges will grow light.
Till then I see what’s really always there:
Unresting death, a whole day nearer now,
Making all thought impossible but how
And where and when I shall myself die.
Arid interrogation: yet the dread
Of dying, and being dead,
Flashes afresh to hold and horrify.

The mind blanks at the glare. Not in remorse
—The good not done, the love not given, time
Torn off unused—nor wretchedly because
An only life can take so long to climb
Clear of its wrong beginnings, and may never;
But at the total emptiness for ever,
The sure extinction that we travel to
And shall be lost in always. Not to be here,
Not to be anywhere,
And soon; nothing more terrible, nothing more true.

This is a special way of being afraid
No trick dispels. Religion used to try,
That vast moth-eaten musical brocade
Created to pretend we never die,
And specious stuff that says No rational being
Can fear a thing it will not feel, not seeing
That this is what we fear—no sight, no sound,
No touch or taste or smell, nothing to think with,
Nothing to love or link with,
The anaesthetic from which none come round.

And so it stays just on the edge of vision,
A small unfocused blur, a standing chill
That slows each impulse down to indecision.
Most things may never happen: this one will,
And realisation of it rages out
In furnace-fear when we are caught without
People or drink. Courage is no good:
It means not scaring others. Being brave
Lets no one off the grave.
Death is no different whined at than withstood.
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>>706826286
Read that in Bill Nighy's voice. It doesn't seem serious anymore.
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No,

But I fear leaving the earth without having my own stamp on it
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