ITT: post your guitar(s) and other anon make insulting assumptions about you
Faggot buys predistressed guitars to hang on his wall.
>>706757830
goes to renaissance fairs to pick up overweight single women in their 30s who write fanfic
tries to tell people he's some kind of minstrel
>>706757089
parents bought him expensive guitars in highschool but can't play better than the average 12yr old. also thought it would get him laid and ended up sucking some dudes dick at a bar for a chance to sing karaoke with his guitar
>>706757089
Don't know how to use wire cutters.
>>706757089
>>706758831
And this
>>706758750
all true except for the karaoke bit.. it was an open mic.
>>706758134
fanfic isn't a prereq...
>>706758831
>>706758868
thinks gibsons are lame without ever having played one
>>706759081
Nah, fucking love a good SG/Explorer.
Will say some won't live up to the name, but get a good one, and fuck me, you're set.
>>706757830
that's not a guitar... wtf
>>706757089
Desperately trying to relive his youth through escapist consumerism
>>706759527
that's the ' i wish i could play jazz but i'm not smart enough or good enough ' model
idk
>>706759710
Wanna be scene fag who is also poor
>>706759650
Pretty much
>>706760054
Cool guy
>>706759710
doesn't play guitar and found an image on google to try to be cool
>>706760054
wanted the ugliest guitar so he could look different but is still just as bad and faggy as all the other guitarists he knows
>>706760305
wanted to mix his passions for guitar and bowling shirts. probably plays sca music.
>>706760280
Nah
Not my pic, but identical. Go nuts
I'll save you the trouble. Les Paul for poorfags. Shoulda got an Epiphone Standard instead.
>>706757089
Why not?
>>706759801
wants to rock n' roll all night and party everyday but can't because of his fat wife and autistic kid
>>706760755
>>706760615
Yeah, but change out the pick-ups and you've got a nice little paul
>>706760536
wishes he was metal as fuck but is more like 600 thread count
How many of you guitar fags even know how to properly set up a guitar to play good and completely in tune throughout the entire neck?
Be gentle
>>706760588
not half as good as he thinks he is but the neck inlay is so pretty that he had to spend the extra money
>>706760590
wishes he had tone control for both pickups and regrets not going to prom because that could've been the best night of his life
>>706760588
Ewww Schecter. At least it'll make you appreciate a real guitar when you buy one
I don't know how to play it, it was a gift.
Though I hear it's supposed to be nice.
>>706759710
Shamefur dispray
>>706760970
Shockingly accurate. Well done anon.
>>706760054
Can't play a real guitar
>>706760755
>>706760787
those guitars are fucking gay
>>706760615
he just can't get that Thunderstruck lick to sound right. also is considering pawning so he can have a down payment on a minivan
>>706760495
>breddy gud
>>706761156
you're fucking retarded
>>706760687
glad he doesn't have a better camera because we can't see how shitty his guitar really is
>>706761268
Are Chapmans any good? I'm interested in getting one (maybe the Rob Scallon model since I like the design, 6 string model though)
>>706760305
50 year old black man
>>706760862
>I don't think I'm very good at all
>>706759801
one of your parents killed a childhood pet and you've held a grudge against them ever since.
>>706760755
>>706760787
has tried to be in multiple bands but it doesn't work out because he's too emo. he also can't stop playing Dave Matthew's covers which is why he isn't in a band
>>706760807
how dare you
Just picked this up.
>>706760859
wishes his guitar was a different color because he didn't plan on coming out of the closet everytime he gets his axe out
>>706761518
>>706760054
I respect that you play bass, but that bass is ugly.
>>706761560
at one point you did think that sweet child o mine was played on fret 11
>>706761455
picked up guitar as a teenager, plays fast to impress people but never goes anywhere with his music
>>706761340
So it is shitty...I always wondered if it was me or the guitar. Bought it for $25 at pawnshop. Just starting out though
>>706761560
compensating for his small penis and missing testicle
>>706761455
Got it in high school, thought it would be his dream guitar, and regrets it ever since. The lower wing is now all dented and it's never been intonated right. When he breaks a string he leaves it for weeks before putting a new one on.
>>706761455
thinks stratocasters are, like, totally gay and for old people, man.
>>706760990
You should see my amp
>>706761614
Pretty accurate tbh. My shitty bass is black and my next guitar probably will be too.
>>706760687
is that a bguitars assasin? that was my first as well, what a shitter
>>706761455
cries every night over dimebag getting killed. also can't get along with drummers because he wishes they were pounding him instead of the drums
>>706760843
I want to learn, how do you properly tune
> begginer >>706760687
>>706760755
ex metal head who recently became a dad and had to get rid of his pointy guitars because his wife told him so, under the guise of babyproofing the house (she just hated them and wanted an excuse to get rid of them), so you bought the gibson (not epiphone) to spite her
I like to make music and aspire to share it with people someday.
>>706761020
will never learn to play guitar because he's too obsessed with mastering the skin-flute
>>706761937
Yup, nailed it.
Can't afford a good one yet, definitely want a new one, how ugh is the cheapest good guitar?
>>706762108
post your music you fucking pussy so we can tell you how fucking gay you are
From left to right, Fender American Jazz, Carvin AC50 fretless custom shop, Ibanez artcore, schecter damien elite 8. R8
>>706762036
prays to god every night that no one will find out about his dad contracting aids from molesting him as a teen
>>706762036
nice knockoff blackmachine faggot
>>706762108
should spend more money on drugs instead of guitars so his music won't suck cum out of a gay grandpa's asshole
>>706760305
Tom DeLonge special?
Nice guitar from a shitty guitarist
>>706762125
I've been thinking about buying a shitty acoustic to learn, but you're probably right.
>>706762208
you have no qualms about taking your roommates food you fucking faggot
>>706762208
should really just stop trying and sell those. makes shitty folk music alone and everyone says 'that's nice OP' while not listening to a single fucking note.
>>706762444
Trips
Nigga its the same thing.
Get a cheap and or just strum, same everything
>>706762658
I just don't want to be fucking with a decent guitar when I have no idea what I'm doing.
>>706762509
He doesnt pay rent i deserve his fucking food.
>>706762596
Yeah probably
>>706762881
I guess, but hey man, it's your life.
Don't think, do.
>>706762956
Bought a warwick because "muh german engineering"
>>706761020
If you don't play it, you could always just give it to me instead
>>706762956
can't decide what to play so he sucks at bass and guitar. also dealing with his girlfriend, who he lives with, yelling at him to get his shitty instruments out of the fucking living room
>>706762881
actually i think you should get the nicest guitar you can afford. cheap guitars sometimes don't feel very pleasant to play and it will make practicing it feel like a chore. but if you get a nice guitar from the start and take good care of it, you will learn much faster because a nice guitar will feel better and sound better.
>>706757089
Currently in shipping
>>706763126
i second this. you should always get the nicest instrument you can afford. if it doesn't work out you can get a good chunk of your money back out of it. with shitty gear you can't get shit back if you don't like it
>>706763258
thinks this will impress some girl but she will just think it's weird and that he is weird and not talk to him. he will wonder for years what he did to drive her away and ultimately will commit suicide over her
Mine
I play Neoclassical Metal
>>706763126
That's a good way to look at it. I was in marching, jazz, and orchestral band in highschool so I can already read music, guess I should just try to find an instructor or some how to stuff.
>>706763386
believe me, we know.
>>706763455
youtube is a good source for free information, it also helps to just strum along to songs you enjoy listening to.
>>706763258
But...she convinced me to buy it
Worse case scenario I can return...
>>706763386
wishes he could pick up chicks but can only pick up long-haired dudes that aren't sure if they're gay
>>706763665
Sorry, I meant you >>706763371
>>706763665
yeah, return her and the guitar
Suppose I'll give you apes my first one, old as the hills and the truss rod is snapped. Still love it to bits
>>706763258
what the fuck, why would you spend real money on something like that?
>>706763521
Alright, awesome. Could you give me a bit of a pointer on the kind of amp I should look at for an Ibanez mtm 1? My knowledge is strictly brass instruments.
>>706763924
We both thought it looked nice, she said unique I thought modern rustic
>>706764017
Borrows instruments to take faggy snapchat pictures of. Fuck off
>>706763891
thinks that he can reclaim his wasted youth by playing in bar bands and fucking 60 year olds every weekend
>>706764017
wishes he could play guitar but can't even play the bass worth two fucks.
>>706763258
I really like the concept of a minimalist guitar.
As far as actually playing it, I don't think it would be very ergonomic.
>>706762108
>That Hoffner bass.
I rage whenever I see those. They are shit and if Paul McCartney never played one they would be unknown tier. Such a waste.
>>706764184
>Implying I play in front of people
I'm glad you think so highly of me fam
>>706762108
That was nice of your wife to let you take them out of the closet for a photo.
>>706763974
if you want to just practice in your bedroom, i recommend getting a guitar/computer interface and modeling software, so you can play your guitar through your computer and speakers.
if you want to play in front of people, you're going to want to get a bigger amp.
>>706764339
i've played in bar bands. it's easy. didn't get to mark any 60yr old off my bucket list though
>>706764250
I'm rethinking my decision now, regarding both her and the guitar, but yea, that's why thought.
>>706763459
No, you don't
>>706763730
lol
>>706764327
>hofner
its an epi knock off bro
>>706764647
yes, we do, that faggot floyd rose and neck profile gives it away.
Caparison Dellinger
>>706764633
total badass that will probably die from drowning in pussy
>>706760054
quit guitar lessons after the 2nd month but still wanted to be in a band
>>706764836
probably plays pretty good but will never realize that his life is a sham and his wife is pregnant with his brothers baby
>>706762956
Nice Warwick.
>>706760588
too poor for a new ibanez but too stupid to buy a used ibanez
>>706765022
jerks off every night thinking about how great it would be to spend all his time in a tiny room with three other guys sweating and screaming. also can play every foo fighters song
ignore the whore
My baby
>>706761455
picked up guitar to impress girls and then spent 10 years playing nothing but technical death metal and is still a virgin
fg800s ...... from amazon open box deals rip me
>>706765278
And my newest.
Just had my first gig on it tonight with my swing band. Its pretty sweet yo
>>706765226
wants us to ignore her because it's actually her guitar and he wishes so much that she would see the gold in his soul but she never will because he is a beta and will never pick up a chick that can play guitar
>>706765177
About half right
>>706765278
>>706765405
not man enough to play a proper upright bass. looks like a total douche in his "swing band" which is actually him and 3 horn players taking turns being the pivot man in a circle jerk in his garage
>>706765405
youre the mid-30s guy who works at the guitar store and has the big ass mutton chops
>>706765226
I can't dude her arms are like tree branches
>>706765405
you are known to smoke a tobacco pipe
Gretsch Duojet '57 reissue
>>706765607
don't know any foo fighters huh?
>>706765226
you buy a lot of shit at the pawn shop and have gotten payday advances before
>>706763386
Fucking great guitar for the money, isn't it?
>>706765844
Prefer opeth
>>706765806
you're a cool dude but you never use that tremolo and got it mainly for show
>>706765909
came here from the front page because i saw opeth
love u bro
My children
>>706765226
Hey man don't you talk about lennon that way.
>>706765806
i've slammed every pic in this thread... this is actually pretty nice. sucks that all you do is plug it in and hammer that whammy bar to annoy your roomate who you just can't build up the courage to kick out even though he doesn't pay his rent and eats your food
>>706765630
Nailed it
>>706765641
Naw, 23, student. Maybe some day.
>>706765755
This is colorado, it isn't tobacco
>>706766106
I noticed im the only fag here with an extended range guitar
>>706765434
rofl, i have no gold in my soul
maybe some mercury to poison all who I come into contact with
>>706765681
yeah, she was not far from becoming a skellington. She'd ask if she was too thin, and I kept saying no. Bitch probably is anorexic now.
>>706766277
Lucky you, fam. When I grow up, I wanna get an 8-string.
Mostly for clean stuff, but can't say I don't like djoonts as well.
>>706766106
negligent bastard that doesn't make his bed or take care of his "children". it might be better for you to just admit you're gay and give those "children" to a better family so that you can enjoy your deviant lifestyle
>>706766401
I do play the dj000nts but playing clean shit is sick as well
Im getting an 8 string soon hopefully
>>706765025
I'm no cuckold and neither am I good player. I'm slightly above mediocre at best.
>>706760054
wanted to stand out so you bought the only bass you knew that wasnt the "normal" shape
>>706766277
I posted my 8 string earlier nigger
>>706766849
Ahhhhhh
Nice to see an 8 string
How do you like it
40$ strat knockoff, plays surprisingly well.
>>706764730
Ok now you just need to kill yourself
Not my pic but it's exactly what I have
>>706757089
Too boring doesn't like too much change
I need to sell some, 3 squiers, an epiphone, an agile, a seagull, a cheap mandolin/ukelele.
>>706760054
Play in an instrumental band >>706760590
Got taste
>>706762036
Shred guy
>>706762108
You're 50 and live in the American southwest
>>706767138
Its alright, i dont play much more than funk and jazz, so i dont use it for more than some weird jazz scales.
Les Paul studio & Steve Howe signature
Alright trash me.
>>706764433
Line 6 pods are cheap and easy to plug your guitar into and then have headphones in the output. Will also interface with computer box
At work right now, or I'd take a pic. Martin Grand Concert 0018.
>>706767517
Im thinking about getting a legator but im too impatient to save my money
>>706765977
Depends what I'm playing. Comes in handy when I need it. But yeah it does look great and mostly sits out of the way.
>>706766164
I live alone. My old roommate played guitar too though. I kept this in storage while we lived together because he was annoying and would never put it down if it was around.
Lets hear it.
>>706768608
Its a beautiful guitar but post a real pic
>>706768608
Kissless virgin that thinks playing fast is all it takes to be good. Can't tune your guitar to save your left testicle.
>>706767856
You think those inlays look good. You've probably been in like 3+ bands and they all sucked.
>>706767537
I can't think of anything bad, except you're a dick, and I want to steal your shit.
>>706767875
You play metal in drop A but don't actually know what to do with that 7th string
>>706768783
Not even slightly close. But good one!
R8
I-I'm one of you !1
>>706769035
Rig
>>706768836
Nailed it hard.
>>706769007
This!
>>706760787
>>706761156
>>706761518
I play a Larivee at least 3 to 6 times a week in a touring band all over the US. They are better than Martin's and make Taylor wish oderus urungus made it dig it's own grave with the bridge of its nose with Larivee's dick up its ass.
>>706764633
pure fucking autism
>>706769035
You actually think Metallica is a good band. You actually think the Explorer is a good body style.
>>706769258
Upright bass is a niche. Have some respect you uncultured faggot
>>706768720
Sure thing
come at me br0s
>>706769519
Broke but at least trying.
Into Death Metal. Probably arouund 19 years old.
>>706768268
Ill sell you a schecter damien elite 8 ;)
>>706769464
Ever consider fanned frets?
>>706769464
What a thing of beauty
>>706767453
>Buying 3 squires and an Epiphone instead of one quality Fender or Gibson.
>Being autistic
Pick both
>>706769677
>>706769669
How much and where you from
>>706769789
Cali, how much you got ese
>>706768146
I played 0015 for 12 years. Loved the mahogany and the neck size cuz manlet
>>706769721
Yes! Looking into getting an agile.
>>706769740
Thanks bro
>>706769677
Love lace sensors. Assuming its some european custom shop guitar?
>>706769846
Same
Also 200 but i get paid monday so ill have more
>>706769677
You wanted an ugly guitar with a shitty bridge so you went out and bought one.
>>706769618
18
prog/beatdown
very broke
got me fam
>>706769964
Email me. [email protected]
Looks like I may be a bit late here,
but I call her October.
>>706770072
Right on!
>>706769938
Oktober, it was a small brand out of Maryland, got the shit sued out of them by Gibson and they stopped making them
>>706769918
Has a cool guitar but put stickers on it. You don't think this ruins the aesthetics of your instrument even though it makes you look 13.
>>706757089
First time I actually do not have anything to complain about. Good choice anon/op. Colour scheme is a bit boring fory taste, but nice guitars.
And no strat... what a plus! I hate fucking strats!
>>706769335
>not knowing James plays ESP.
>>706770120
You're a raging fucking faggot who names their guitars but can't fucking play.
>>706770213
Ah nice. Cant go wrong with small shops, buying a bmt bass soon, super excited.
>>706770001
Pretty much yeah, I also have this pink monstrosity
>>706770119
I emailed u
>>706770455
Ewwww BC Rich and pointy.
Flyin in
>>706762108
Drowns sorrows of girl he messed up with in his music and and buying new instruments. Still writes shit songs. Still misses her.
>>706770344
We all follow the resonating strings of our hearts.
Who the fuck are you, anon?
Well, I myself am somewhat against naming things, as a name can never be a true thing, and can only distort. But when I feel the totality of my experience, with her, she is October.
But who are you?
>>706770605
>Doesn't know jack shit about guitars.
>Has money or was stupid enough to save up for this turd
>Into 80s speed metal and Thrash
what do ya got to say
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0cBp5OPEaWC
here. it is a song. it is called 'one'
>>706770845
Im jelly
>>706770722
WHO THE HELL ARE YOU?
>>706770845
Cliffy poo is that you!?!?!
>>706770605
Kek
>>706760536
emg's on a bc rich. like putting chrome rims on a turd
>>706770955
it gets the job done
>>706770943
Fat neckbeard who thinks slayer is heavy and has no knowledge about guitars.
>>706770942
it is i
>>706770918
10/10 thanks for the laugh
>>706757089
You think playing scales is a solo
>>706770572
I saw it in the used section of my local music shop and thought "that's the tackiest fucking thing I've ever seen" and bought
>>706771089
What a coincidence my nigger!
>>706758831
You like mid-2000's metalcore and think every other type of music is shit
>>706770722
Oh dear God. I can tell you think you sound deep and introspective, but you sound like a pretentious douche. Don't you have to go school in the morning?
>>706769159
dude. shoe some dignity and get a pedalboard for those stompboxes...geezus christ.
>>706760305
Parents bought it; you use it to play off-key, off-tempo blink-182 covers. You probably even like their new album like a faggot
>>706770863
You can probably play well and maybe work at a guitar shop. Good taste in instruments.
I am painting the Orange/black one
>>706760054
You hate playing bass guitars with any clarity in their notes
>>706770120
You look like a Hansen brother who uses meth.
Your guitar strap looks like a piece of bark was photographed and slapped onto a shitty leather strap.
Your guitar itself is one of the gaudiest pieces of shit I've ever seen.
>>706771302
Haha soon...Not done buying yet.
>>706771460
an accurate picture of my warlock, with a single humbucker pickup
>>706760843
>completely in tune
Sorry to disappoint you bruh...
>>706771566
You want to be Tony Iommi despite having less talent than one of his sliced off fingertips.
>>706771364
This is particularly hilarious to me because my dad that doesn't play guitar bought an Epiphone hollowbody in red.
>>706760755
Is proud they can play "More Than a Feeling"
>>706760859
Plays in a metalcore band that can't stop triggering their drums, using cliché synths, cliché lyrics, and layering screams
>>706771566
>Thinks synyster gates is actually good.
>Can't play worth a shit
>doesn't even know what a neck thru is
>Owns at least 3 fedoras
>>706761020
Only plays Avenged Sevenfold songs like they're a good band
>>706761455
Wears only black band tees, baggy carpenter pants, the cheapest skater shoes you can find, and hasn't washed their hair in days
>>706771298
I dont have school currently.
I am what I want to be. I am unbridled by the way you or anyone else could percieve my words or actions.
Your judgement simply shows me the ways in which you allow yourself to be conditioned. To discredit an other reality in lieu of the percieved validity of your own? Implying your opinions hold any weight whatsoever over the actions of another? Once you attune to the vibration of creation, that kind of hate leaves your heart. You mouth-breathers make me laugh, but mostly I just pity you in the small worlds you create for yourself.
>>706771901
You're having trouble with the first of that "Guitar Chords For Beginners", aren't you?
>>706771846
Its a Slipnutz guitar not a Avenged Sevenchin guitar
>>706771566
I remember my first bronze bc rich back when i was 14 lol
>>706762108
Too dumb to buy not the same guitar three times. Fucking retard. That McCartney bass too. I bet you hate good sounding bass guitars.
>>706772023
I'm having trouble with putting a name to the chords but the chords are relatively easy
>>706772027
Around the same shit tier garbage so what's the difference?
>>706769918
You forgot how to tune the high E string. So you cut it off and never looned back.
>>706771939
I didn't know this was a cringe thread.
>>706771939
How high are you?
>>706772183
Kek
>>706770943
Lefty fuck yeah
>>706771939
the easiest and most dire of follys of a man on the truth path is to look down on other with a sense of condescension. humble youreself
>>706765806
Nothing bad to say here, I'm jealous as fuck. You know how to spend your money.
>>706772179
The specs obviously
>>706767438
Play shitty hard rock and pop punk bar songs thinking you'll make it big but only drunk assholes like your terrible music
>>706772399
Music wise dumbass.
It's a great guitar though. Shit music.
>>706769464
You play djent and think its real music even though it's a bunch of pretentious bullshit/an elitist circle-jerk of a genre
>>706772651
> even though it's a bunch of pretentious bullshit/an elitist circle-jerk of a genre
Wow, even more than atmospheric black metal?
>>706769468
You finger pick and you're way too dynamic for any band to hire you permanently
>>706769519
Dumb enough to buy a bass from ESP
>>706772286
You know, I considered that as I was typing that post, but in the end, while I accept all realities, I am also aware that the toxic nature of some merits their occlusion from our culture, from a purely human standpoint. It isnt so much condescension as it is criticism. While I understand the necessity of their existence, I do openly disagree with it. Its all just lines and how far you are willing to read between them, on the level we find ourselves at least. Maybe more? ...
I openly accept criticism myself, but reserve the right to shoot it down where i see fit
>>706772240
Not high enough. You'd be surprised.
>>706772651
Nah, prog stuff and Technical Death Metal. Djent is pretty talented music like it or not. It's nore than just mindless chugging.
>>706771939
You can't even count your extra chromosomes can you? Cleans your soul and drink some bleach
>>706772213
Sorry, you are conditioned to view the perspective I offer as 'cringe'? That is a sad way to live, I really think so. Cultural conditioning at its finest example.
>>706771939
>>706772286
>Euphoria intensifies
>>706773015
i hope you don't talk like that in real life
>>706760843
> i just learned to tune my instrument
> "i bed u cand do id XDDDD"
>>706772984
ad hominem, no real weight to any argument against my self. try harder. this isnt even a challenge.
I love how there's two or three anons having an argument completely unrelated to pissing-upon-guitars thread we're supposed to be having.
>>706773195
Oh but I do. Wanna fight about it?
>>706772963
Volumes is pretty good tbh, everyone I know who likes djent describes the genre like its God's gift to man in between smoking charcoal cigarettes they keep behind their ear under a protective layer of hockey/Bass Pro Shop snapbacks and greasy hair
>>706773341
I know I'm really sorry my ego will calm down in about five minutes i think
>>706772707
Almost
Here's what I have out of their cases at the moment. The Dean is actually neck-through and was made in the same factory as the first Spector euros. Plays like a dream.
>>706773399
shit gets old quick for me, i prefer the instrumental bands like polarization, animals as leaders, cale the summit etc
>>706771649
Is it Lil Wayne bad when he plays?
>>706773399
I love volumes
>>706773594
When you're not busy guarding your virginity by playing in a jazz band you break out the Mike Dirnt P-Bass to try and look cool. Alas, the fedora drives the wenches away, no matter how articulate your playing of the bassline of Holiday is.
>>706773647
I don't think he's ever played it. He played when he was in high school I guess but hasn't in many years. It sits in a storage room and clearly has not been tuned in awhile. Last time I was visiting it was wildly out of tune.
>>706773594
If Phil Lynott's spirit saw this, he'd force himself back to 1970 and convince himself not to play bass, just so he couldn't be similar to you in any way possible.
>>706773305
I know what logical fallacies are, too, you patronizing piece of shit. The issue with what your saying is all in who you are as a person. Therefore, personal attacks are justified, you downy with a superiority complex. Drink bleach.
>>706773620
Listen to Caspian
>>706773898
I'll buy it
>>706773983
Bad attempt at saving face. None of what you said is justified in any way. No more than my responses. You have no idea who I am, nor do I you. What are we even doing here, anyways? You can assume all you want, but an ounce of one is worth a pound of two when it comes to me and you. I may be full of shit, we all are, but at least I am full of my own. Why do you think what you think? wink?
>>706773858
Green Day is a terrible band and it's not a Dirt model. Drop C at the moment because I'm filling in for a thrash band.
>>706774280
One pound of feather weighs the same as one pound of lead. All things must die. Time is subject; an hour ticks past faster on a planet with an axial rotation velocity greater than Earth's. There are inevitable consequences to ever action that you take in your your life. Once flied to many there was speed for and if go. Aristotle once said "have one taken from one from one to devise the subtraction from the once removed subverted inverse addition makes less than achieved perceived received plebe." Plato, a great American philosopher, drank bleach, so should you. I am become death. I am become death. Intellig en ce is s ub jec t i ve.