Some people have argued as to the legality or lack thereof of child pornography in society. Some people claim that it's an abomination, and shouldn't be able to reach the eyes of the general public. Others claim that cp is the proven way of producing successful results in terms of treating pedophilia and other related disorders. So do you all believe that it should be made legal, or that it should remain a criminal enterprise?
> inb4 mods ban me for even asking this
>>706749825
>implying mods
>>706749825
They're not ready and never will be. It's hard to confront and we all know they don't want to do stuff if it's hard.
>>706749825
It should be illegal but the justice system is totally fucked and deal with it in the least scientific way possible.
>>706749825
like weed, it should be made available to registered pedos who show a prescription
I wonder what kind of CP they'll find on this guy's computer.
Decriminalized, but illegal to advertise. Perhaps allowed for people who are willing to go in private and tell their gov't they want cp and are willing to undergo being on a watchlist as well as seek counseling to provide information on how it's treating them.
Only through an abundance of information and statistics can we determine its benefits and cons.
>>706750023
I wouldn't say so completely...I still think they would do it, but usually the pedos and producers of the cp update their methods so as to not get caught. LS Studios from Ukraine used tons of layers of protective software and money transfers before they got shut down
>>706750695
But wouldn't it be seen as finding pleasure or profiting from what a lot of people in society consider to be a tragedy? A ruined childhood fucks you up like nothing else can.
The day that thinking about a crime is equivalent to doing the crime, I better be able to eat as much chocolate cake as I want by just imagining it, or else the law is bullshit.
But as long as that's just pixels in there, then I guess they're different things after all. How about you, anon? Are you wiping chocolate frosting from your mouth right now? No? Then I guess looking at a picture isn't pedophilia no matter what the content of that picture is.
What about alternatives? A while back there was this minor outburst because a Japanese company made sex dolls, and not cheap blown up dolls I mean $1000+ sex dolls, in child sizes. The creator even stated that the reason for the sex dolls was so any pedos would not go after real kids because they had their doll. And it worked.
>>706751154
That's easier said than done, but for some reason, a lot of countries have it in their constitutions that watching is a crime as well...it's stupid imo, but it all depends on how backward your laws are in general...
Hurr durr, you're all pedos now cuz you looked at muh pic!
>>706751405
Dude, alternatives sound good on paper, but convincing the majority of the world's governments to look into them is pretty damn pointless. Maybe because most governments are third world and refuse to listen to fact and reason...
>>706751558
AWWWW HERE IT GOESSS!!!!!
>>706751517
Well, then fine. Then at least those countries have it written in law that the government is censoring material. At least they have it as a matter of public record that their governments are fascist.
The autism starts when people start treating digital fictionalization as reality. And I mean, you can *do* that.
But if that's the way it's gonna' roll then I better have a fucking 3d printer that makes chocolate cake on demand. Because until we're at the point where you can 3d print Lolis to have sex with, the concept between imagination and reality are different.
And the first amendment in the U.S. gives people to imagine whatever the hell they want, period.
>>706751918
If I was a more creative person, I'd then make a sort of photomosaic of an erotic Loli anime gril with different colors of that base image for the pixels.
And then make *that* base image a photomosaic of digital photography of naked children.
>Zomg wat is real, where does reality end and the imagination begin?
What's interesting is when people hear pedophile, they immediately think: molestaion, kidnapping, abuse, etc. When pedophilia literally means child lover. Think about it, the "real" pedos are the people who don't do anything to real kids. They stare, watch, fantasize, and pleasure themselves to loli and shota hentai because they know not to cross the line and go after real kids.
The people who do physically touch kids sexually are the sicko that deserve everyone's hate.
>>706751154
Thank you. Someone with half a brain here. Think of what it means that so many people are frothing at the mouth to arrest and kill someone that is in possession of some configuration of magnetic (bits stored on a hard drive) or electronic charge states (bits in ram). Someone has a bunch of 1s and 0s at the atomic level and fucktards want them dead.
obvious soon-to-be CP thread here
>inb4 ban
>>706753899
If no cp has been posted by now then I doubt any will be posted. This is more for discussion then pic trading
>>706749825
why not cgi? that wouldn't hurt anyone
>>706754772
It would hurt the feelings of people who get incensed when they see others enjoying instincts which involve getting off to young looking things on a computer screen. These are the real victims here.
Why do you think they identify so strongly with young children? (Because mentally, they still are.) That whole thing where they say that sexually mature biological adults aren't mentally mature? It's projection.
>>706751154
Are those onions on top of that cake? What kind of monster would make something so appealing and then throw onions on top of it?
Onion is fine on meats or salads but a fucking cake...
>>706755973
What about the stick on top of it?
>>706755973
It's called freewill faggot. I have the right to hang my own noose, even if that takes the form of 3d printing chocolate cake with onions out of my imagination.
>>706749825
Fucking pedophile trying to justify being a pedophile with bullshit excuses that don't even make sense.
You're disgusting, kill yourself
>>706756788
> i hete pedrofile becuz uhm suppozed to hete dem
> so badd
> uhm gonna watch kardaseebians on netflux
>>706756788
you'd fuck a 17yo when given the chance :^)
>>706756282
I would disregard the stick somewhat in the same manner that you disregard a sprig of parsley. Not really edible. The onions are edible though, and they tend to lend their flavor to anything they touch.
>>706756341
If chocolate and onions are your thing, all the more power to you. It just baffles the mind is all.
>>706756788
Ignorance is strength.
Fiction is reality.
Autism is such genius.
>>706756341
Free will does not exist
>>706757927
I mean, it sure doesn't for any below the age of 18. They can't consent to sex, because they're not people enough.
Except in my state, where the age of freewill is 16.
>>706758294
Humans do not have free will regardless of age. Everything you've ever done is a result of your past.
>>706758294
legal 12 yos when?
>>706749825
I do believe that it must remain illegal. I don't believe that pre-pubescent or mid-pubescent individuals should be exploited for their body. However there should be sexual toys such as children sex dolls. Something that would help at the very least satisfy their fantasies without commiting the crime
>>706758294
So you're saying any girl who is under 18 can't consent to sex? OK then. How would you explain all the girls who get pregnant at 15 and 16? How would you explain about a tv show that was made because of 16 year old whores get kicked up?
>>706759072
i think animation studios should be able to produce material. that nothing should be illegal unless it involves actual kids
>>706759072
Look at>>706751405
>>706759493
was that show made in places where it is legal to give consent at age 16?
>>706759497
Exactly
>>706759991
Nope. Age of consent in the good ol' USA is 18. Which is fucking hilarous. People would call the cops and have anyone arrested if they even thought a person was a pedo. But they would gladly watch a show where a 16 year old girl gets pregnant and deals with the drama. And of course the guys who knocked them up didn't get jail time.
>>706759072
>children sex dolls
yeah but i wonder how long that gimmick is going to last.
>>706759493
They were mind controlled, duh. It's called being suggestible.
Poor things are probably so suggestible, that if you told them they had freewill, they'd believe it.
>>706751405
I posted before reading your post and I realised that I pretty much said the same thing you did. I completely agree with what you said
>>706752652
Jaya Shri Krsna Chaitanya Prabhu Nityananda Shri Advaita Gadadhara Shrivas Adi Gauda Bhakta Vrinda
>>706757864
Aqua a shit
Mehumin a best
>>706760606
Mind controlled? I think I've had enough stupidity for one day. I'm out
>>706759884
Thanks anon
>>706760390
Hey, its better for them to have some sort of outlet than none at all right?
>>706749825
i think the first step is to accept that some people just happen to be pedophiles. that it's a mental condition and isn't something that they chose
>>706760773
I don't know who or what a Mehumin is. But Megumin is better than Aqua.
>>706760814
No problem anon.
>>706749825
For child porn to exist, a child must first be abused. This is why it is illegal. It is monstrous to think that there are people who create a market for it, who support the act of violating the trust of those who cannot defend themselves. Even before I became a father I found it repugnant, and now, the thought of somebody sexualizing a child makes me almost physically ill. My daughter is a beautiful, innocent 4 year old with no concept of sex. If anybody ever hurt her or manipulated her trust I think I would kill them. Pedophillia is not like homosexuality, and those who act on it are violating the position of power and authority an adult has over a child. It is rape, corruption of the innocent, a desecration. You steal a child's right to a fucking childhood. They are children, they trust us not to betray them, to guide and nurture them. When an adult deludes themselves sufficiently to betray that trust, it is madness.
>>706761392
William Blake has the right idea.
>>706761392
is this pasta?
>>706761392
Same could be said for child soldiers anon. Both situations take away a kid's childhood and innocence.
>>706761633
Just my thoughts on the subject.
>>706761392
but what about drawings or dolls? those are illegal too in most places despite the fact that their production it's harmless
>>706761836
It's true, childhood is where we learn how to be adults, we have no experience and so we look to adults to guide us. When we are given instruction we take it at face value. We have no choice.
>>706761059
>Megumin is better than Aqua
>>706749825
there is nothing wrong with the sight of a naked child. a hairless penis on an eight year old is just as beautiful as a flat-chested five year old with a vulva disappearing between her legs.
>>706761392
>My daughter is a beautiful, innocent 4 year old
Can I see her naked?
>>706761392
If an underage sexually mature biologically adult twelve-year-old girl takes a photo of herself naked with a mirror, and then posts it on the internet, then who abused her?
Al-Gore, who invented the internet? Joseph Nicephore Niepce who invented the camera? Every person, the moment they lay eyes on her photo, corrupting her soul through quantum entanglement principles?
That last one would be really interesting. Boy, you could make an FTL communicator, by measuring the amount of soul corruption propagated by a network of child pornography. What a concept!
Is that how that works? Please educate me.
Who abused a sexually mature biologically adult twelve-year-old girl who takes a picture of herself naked, with a mirror, and posts it on the internet?
>>706762546
>>706761392
You got nudes? XD
>>706762137
Here's your pizza, fag.
>>706758437
>being a retarded faggot who feel for the determinism meme even though quantum physics exists
>>706762442
bismuth has nothing on the hardness of my dick right now
>>706762592
I have tons of naked kid pics. I'm just not stupid enough to post them here. I prefer 4-12 though.
>>706761392
Very true. Children at that age are so naive and they follow our commands because they see us as their guardians in this world they're trying to comprehend and if an adult were to order or trick a child into doing a sexual favor for them, you would be abusing someone who doesn't know any better nor what they're doing
>>706762753
Why don't you create a kik thread and then addme?
>>706762611
leafyisqueer? is that you?
>>706762706
Here's some bismuth porn. Look at that slender cord, that revealing wrap... mmf.
>>706761392
False axiom 1: sex is evil and abusive.
tbh the concept of "porn" is what created CP in the first place. As long as the porn industry still goes on, CP will always exist.
>>706762980
Crystal porn dump
I'd say that instead of legalising it altogether, make it so that the youngest allowed age is around 14, aka the point of sexual maturity for most youths. They should also of course make sure that child pornstars actually gave their consent, and have good working conditions. The problem with cp is that children don't have as much power as adults, who hold the systemic and cultural advantage.
>inb4 social justice bullshit
>>706763032
Agreed aint it good
>>706762855
If I were to babysit, I would see the kid naked sooner or later, so why not sooner than later?
>>706761392
>it is madness.
Madness..?
>>706763032
When parents believe it's wrong for children to know what sex is, it's because they regret making children in the first place. Thus, they perpetuate their own guilt through their progeny. It sends the message "you shouldn't be alive."
Celebrating sexuality is a celebration of life itself. Go figure, right?
>>706763217
>>706763121
agreed, regulations.and even signed parent & child consent
>>706762855
I don't know what kids you've been hanging out with, that obediently follow your instructions just because you're very old.
I think you're lying, in order to hide your own shame at existence. You think that sex should be hidden from children, on the vague hope that maybe if you bury it, it will go away. Such a dirty, bad thing, sex is.
Amirite? Correct me if I'm wrong.
>>706749825
Society's reaction to CP is more damaging to the children involved with it than the CP was itself.
We, as a society, handle this issue in one of the worst ways imaginable.
Obviously, producing CP should be illegal, as that act harms children. Selling CP should probably be illegal, as that generates a market demand for it. But merely possessing, viewing, or even distributing it (freely)? Why should that be a crime? It does zero harm to children, and likely SUPPRESSES demand for CP, meaning it might actually SAVE kids from being molested on film.
Clearly, viewing a video-taped murder isn't a criminal act, nor should possessing a film depicting a real murder. This is because it's obvious that the MURDER is the crime, not the filming of it.
Likewise, CHILD ABUSE and CHILD MOLESTATION is a crime, not the filming of it, and certainly not merely viewing pictures of it.
This is a huge hole in society's concept of justice, and I see no easy fix, as long as the bulk of the population is ready to string up anyone that even hints at attraction to children.
It's like the way we treated gays in the 1950's, illogical and unjustified. It's not like people chose to be pedophiles. It's a mental illness, not a crime.
Imagine, for a moment, that you have a 100% cure for pedophilia in an otherwise harmless pill. Does it make sense to purposefully withhold that pill from someone that wants to take it, as PUNISHMENT for being a pedophile? If your answer is no, then you've already admitted that it's a sickness, not a crime.
>>706762855
You would be surprised how easily a little boy can get an erection.
>>706761392
>My daughter is a beautiful, innocent 4 year old with no concept of sex.
Don't worry, shes going to start masturbating at 10, and possibly start fucking. Then she won't be so "innocent."
>>706758294
Age limits are interesting.
You can legally have sex with a 15 year old in this EU country. That''s fine. Yes, I know many countries have higher limits but we can do 15 yo's.
A naked picture of anyone under 18 is child porn (yay harmonizing that part with the US).
Logical?
>>706763497
>>706763874
if she is 4 she is probably already masturbating
>>706750211
Kek. Must one commit an offense against a loli to be granted a prescription?
>>706763874
earlier than 10
most boys masturbate by 8
girls on average start even earlier
why do people always forget their own childhood experiences?
>>706763210
Because we can do something to help it
>>706761392
Innocent at 4, but given how media is nowadays and include the Internet I'd probably bet 10 grand and my left nut she'll be on omegle naked and dancing for random people by 13 at the latest.
>>706763874
>at 10
Likely earlier, these days. My ex gf's daughter was 9, and had been masturbating for more than a year I met her mum. She would do it in the bed while we were tucking her in. Her mom told her to stop and do it in private, but I suspect that was only because she thought it was making ME uncomfortable.
>>706763874
You dont start fucking at the age of 10
>>706764364
There's nothing wrong with helping t he little boy to wash his penis and scrotum.
>>706763718
I tried explaining this long ago.
It turns out that society doesn't act logical nor does it follow common sense. Most people cant even think for themselves.
>>706763718
>producing CP should be illegal, as that act harms children
Citation needed.
>But merely possessing, viewing, or even distributing it (freely)? Why should that be a crime? It does zero harm to children
It could embarrass or stigmatize them for the rest of their life. Distribution should be legally actionable as to stop the spread of existing material. You can pretend that the child is capable of giving informed consent, but we both know that's not true. Kids don't have context to understand what the existence the material will mean to their adult lives.
>Imagine, for a moment, that you have a 100% cure for pedophilia in an otherwise harmless pill
False equivalency.
>>706764282
Tfw you don't even like loli, but have to do it for the weed
>>706764473
Obviously you didn't have a childhood XD
>>706764425
Story continue?
>>706763550
Not necessarily hide them from it, but I don't believe that they should be treated as if they know the repercussions of sex.
And yeah you might be right. I did embellish the previous post a bit
>>706764283
>why do people always forget their own childhood experiences?
Because they're children. Their brains are still developing.
I didn't start jerking it until about 10, but I figured out pressure on my dick, and humping things felt good much, much earlier. I probably had my first orgasm at 10 (dry, still felt amazing). I do remember this, for the magical 3 years or so I could orgasm, but not yet shoot cum, I could have multiple orgasms, like a chick. I'd orgasm, and it would stay just as hard, and I could keep jerking it, and cum again within a minute or so, over and over. The only reason I would generally stop was when friction burns made it too painful to continue. I counted them once, I had 26 orgasms in one session.
I swear I'd give up my ability to shoot cum at all, to have that magical power back. With that, plus lube, I'd literally never leave my fap chair.
>>706763718
The one huge problem regarding pedophilia moralfags seems to disregard is more information about pedophilia besides the "lel all pedos are monsters, they rape children, hunt them down!" shit the media love to sprout and the insights and experiences from the pedos themselves.
But no, moralfags wants to report them every chance they get and keep scaring off the pedos.
>>706763771
I remember the good old days when I would go to the PPV playboy channel.
My mom cut off the cable a month later
>>706765142
>two huge problems
>>706765232
I've been in the same situation anon. Except I went to my friends house and used their tv.
>>706764989
fuck that's hot
>>706764675
That's all there was to it. She did it under the covers, so I never actually saw her doing it, but I did see her hand move over her crotch, and heard the little "squishing" noise she would make once she got going (it usually wasn't until this when it became obvious, but I suspect my ex knew it was happening all along.) My ex explained to her that it was a private activity, and that sharing it was for people in love. The girl, I shit you not, said "But I love you, Mommy, can't we do it together?" I actually kind of daww'ed to that, and was a little turned on at the same time. I sure as fuck wasn't about to tell my GF about that second part!
We'd only been dating for a couple of months, and the 3rd time I stayed over, the girl walked out of the bathroom, stark naked, surprising the hell out of me. GF had to talk to her about that, too.
Can't wait till the castration of pedophiles becomes mainstream treatment for them.
>>706765772
Was there nothing more to that? You could at least greentext a story. doesn't have to be real just juicy
It's wrong. You should all fap to young looking 18yo girls.
>>706765142
Well, it's because the legal limit should be puberty. That's reality. Puberty is when a biological creature becomes an adult. And you know what? Long after puberty, many, many humans still aren't mature enough to handle their own bodies. Some people go to the grave not responsible enough to handle the fact that they're a biological adult. That's an entirely separate issue.
The reason the two issues are united into one--sexual maturity and innocence that needs to be protected by big brother--is just so that minors can used for blackmail. It's literally weaponized sexuality, and it wouldn't work if puberty was the cut off point between when it became legal to have sexual relations with a person.
The vast majority of men don't feel a sexual attraction to women who can't breed. The reason men feel sexual attraction to women who can breed, is because that's what sex is for.
Thus, you can't make a very good weapon with actual children, who haven't completed puberty.
Thus, the way the laws are currently, there's a nice 6~7 year window, where biological adults can be used as sexual weapons.
In point of fact, the criminalization of sex with biological adults between the years of about 12~18 is exactly what endangers them, since they can be used as sex slaves to blackmail people. And in fact, the people who are most in a position to use people as chattel in this way, are the very ones who are most immune to reprisal from law itself. Highly paid, highly corrupt political figures.
Isn't that funny? The way to *save* the people from being turned into sex slaves would be to just legalize sex with them. Then there'd be no point in making them weaponized sex slaves, since they couldn't be used as human blackmail.
>>706765999
>the edgy normalfag whose presence marked the decline of 4chan
>>706765772
so adorable
>>706761392
Is taking away a females innocence bad?
>>706765999
Trips are wasted on you.
>>706766092
I'm not here to jerk you off, fagboat. I've got no interest in titillating strangers on 4chan. I'm in this thread to try and contribute to a conversation on CP/pedophilia, and try to find a way that's even marginally better than the hate-fuck dumpster-fire we have going on right now. I was just relating an experience for context. If my girlfriend wasn't as open-minded about sex as she was, what happened that time, even though my actions were 100% innocent (if not my thoughts), could have landed me in jail. That's a fucking travesty, and it needs to stop.
>>706766548
>I've got no interest in titillating strangers on 4chan
I guess it's a shame that's all your post was good for then.
>>706765999
ultimate truth, the future is set
>>706766861
The truth is that he can't wait, not that it will happen. You seem a little too black to be on this site.
>>706766472
>Is taking away a females innocence bad?
The concept of "purity" is merely an barbaric extension of the idea of women and children as the "property" of a man. It's a holdover from when children were literally bartered for goods and services.
Sexual "purity," as a concept, has outlived its usefulness, and now just an albatross around the necks of sexual development and human well-being.
>>706767047
niggers are the new normalfags
sad truth
>>706767192
>regurgitating feminist rhetoric on 4chan
I bet you think you're a super groovy troll.
>>706767411
How about you refute my point, rather than tossing ad hominems?
Explain to us, oh wise dipshit, why "sexual purity" is more beneficial than harmful in world where we actually understand sex is an important part of human well-being, when "purity" is merely an attempt to suppress natural sexuality.
>>706767765
He was just fun posting, anon. No need to get panties in a bunch.
>>706767765
>How about you refute my point, rather than tossing ad hominems?
You points weren't points. They were personal opinions about the relationship of innocence to sociological power structures in a bygone era. Also, this is 4chan. I'm under no obligation to adhere to the rules of rational debate. This isn't high school debate club or your liberal arts college forum on gender identity.
>Explain to us, oh wise dipshit
Very mature. Not hypocritical at all considering your lead in.
>why "sexual purity" is more beneficial than harmful in world where we actually understand sex is an important part of human well-being
That's also an opinion, one informed by a persons psychological need for physical intimacy. It's not a universal given, as one would assume from your post.
>when "purity" is merely an attempt to suppress natural sexuality
One would argue that the prevention of STDs and placing value on intrinsic personal attributes other than primal sexuality are both valid reasons to try and protect purity. Of course, that's just an opinion. Like everything you wrote.
I do not condone the production and distribution of CP. But what I find far much worse are the moralfags in this world that literally think people should be killed for an attraction they did not ask for. All these sadists imagining their sick, murderous fantasies acted out upon a human just over the label of pedophile.
It really bothers me because I, and many others, wake up every day in a fight between my consciousness and my desires. I never asked to be incredibly attracted to adolescents who were not of the age of consent. And I really didn't ask for the internet age to put girls of that age a few clicks away. And the hardest thing is the presence of so many in that age range who are ready to explore their sexual desires for many to see. I guess it isn't shocking as I started using pornography and masturbating (and cumming) for my own pleasure at the age of 10. Who knows what I would have done if the internet was then what it is now. I know one thing, when you see a girl who from her own desires says, "I know I'm only 13, but I really need a daddy to take care of me, and eat me, and make me feel good", the number of ways that will pull someone living with the struggle is sickening.
>>706768640
>Also, this is 4chan. I'm under no obligation to adhere to the rules of rational debate.
Why don't you just preceded all your posts with "I am an idiot, please ignore me!"? That would save everyone's time.
>>706768939
>whiteknighting for another man because your father wasn't around to tell your that's gay and being gay is unacceptable
I'm sorry that everyone else isn't playing by your reddit rules. Maybe go back there instead of presuming everyone is going to appease you just because you decided this would be a good place to vacation?
>>706769198
>implying much
I am not the anon you are debating with; I just pointed out your idiocy.
>>706769330
>I am not the anon you are debating with
I know. That's why the greentext contained what it contained, dunce.
>I just pointed out your idiocy
No, you illustrated how butthurt you are that other people aren't playing "fair". It's pretty obvious that you're the type who clings to rationality because he can't compete at anything else in life. You're practically radiating euphoria.
>>706769643
>No, you illustrated how butthurt you are that other people aren't playing "fair"
Lol I don't even care. You should get that autism fixed. Probably by jumping in front of a train.
>>706767192
Degenerate filth.
>>706749825
Should it be legal to essentially create more demand for child pornography? No.
>>706769837
>Lol I don't even care
>keeps replying
You're not doing a very good job of hiding your feelings. You're practically foaming at the mouth, kid.
>>706769850
I don't see how there is a correlation between legality and demand. You are either drawn to it or you aren't, the law won't change how you feel about it.
>>706769953
>You're not doing a very good job of hiding your feelings. You're practically foaming at the mouth, kid.
Nope.
Also, I am literally shitposting in some other threads right now, just to take your little illusion I care at all anymore. And because you are just that autistic you'll reply to this post as well - or I'll win. Simple as that.
>>706770076
Yes but allowing it to be distributed and encouraging people who want to fap to it to fap it rather than loli or something creates more demand for CP. The people are creating and supplying it suddenly have a much larger market.
>>706758437
And quantum physics states that the future dictates the past, not what smart ass?
>>706751558
Fuck, gotta wipe my hard drive again...
>>706770147
>Nope.
Yup.
>Also, I am literally shitposting in some other threads right now
Are you getting butthurt about getting rekt in those ones too?
>And because you are just that autistic you'll reply to this post as well - or I'll win. Simple as that.
Hard cringe. kek
>>706770630
>Yup
I am shaving my balls right now.
>And because you are just that autistic you'll reply to this post as well
>replies to that post
I admit, for such an autistic person, it literally was a no-win scenario. The only winning move would have been to never start playing.
>>706770630
>>706769953
This is the internet. People get on here, sperg out, and then carry on with reasonably normal lives presumably.
What a world.
>>706749825
I think it should be illegal to make it, but not illegal to watch it
>>706770760
>>replies to that post
>tfw you can identify how impotent a person feels in real life by how hard they pretend they can manipulate people online
>>706770812
Here's some attention, strange person interjecting in a random conversation.
>>706770975
>they pretend they can manipulate people online
Does the little autistic do not like playing for the autistic that he is? Or why are you damage controlling so hard right now?
>>706749825
If CP wasn't illegal, more of it would be produced. The only thing that matters in this world is money.
Thus no, CP shouldn't be legal, but at the same time, it needs to be understood that no one chooses to be a pedo and that watching a video/picture that already exists, harms no one.
To sum it all up in a simple way, the punishment for viewing CP should not be as harsh as it is, but the punishment for producing CP and actually molesting a kid should be way harsher than it is.
>>706771185
>being so emotionally invested you begin devolving into niggerspeak
>>706771311
No, this is just me being tired and not being native English and not caring enough for proper grammar.
>>706770382
I see what you're saying but it doesn't really create more demand. There is already a huge market demanding more than is currently supplied. I will give you that many more people would be inclined to produce though, people who are probably practicing already just not on camera. Either way, I don't think it should be legal on grounds that many performers are groomed and cannot consent, I just think demand doesn't factor into anything.
Jesus christ, I just about had a panic attack
>Be at work just now (shitty hotel)
>reading this thread
>3 cops come in
>ohfuckohfuck.cbr
Turns out they were looking for some guy from the next town over...
>>706770612
Sauce?
there should be a few legal producers of softcore cp.
just like child models but with occasional nudity. no penetration or things.
Let these companies be inspected every other month to prevent abuse and that's it.
illegal cp would take a huge hit from that, kids would make money for their future and pedo life would be much more comfortable
wouldn't that work out fine?
>>706770832
So it's suddenly fine to post CP all over the internet and you don't think that will increase the production of it at all? Even if websites that are making thousands of dollars of add revenue off of it have the opportunity to pay the people producing it to produce more of it for them?
CP is going to be created. This will happen even if viewing it was legal. There's no way to catalog who's creating what CP, because it's all happening illegally. So you suddenly have people legally making money off of a product that is then being funneled back in order to illegally produce more.
Do you understand why this is completely retarded?
>>706771485
Rewrite
>>706771457
You just dodged a fucking bullet there.
>>706771457
I used to do that job too, are things pretty chill today?
>>706771457
You actually believe cops would come visit you for reading a thread on /b/? Nigga that's not how it works. They can't see anything you do without a warrant for your isp as long as you don't enter honeypots.
Has everyone completely forgotten about nudism? And technically it's not porn since being a nudist is a life choice. Funny how life is eh?
>>706771397
>not being native English
Then you don;t belong here in the first place, subhuman.
>>706771537
It's legal to watch murders, but that doesn't fuel people to kill more.
>>706771713
Not for that, it was just a shock.
>>706771671
Yes, thankfully it's a quiet night so far.
>>706771748
That's because you rarely get paid to kill random people.
>>706771858
Doesn't mean that's not an occupation.
>>706771438
Websites would be hosting it. People, previously looking at loli or some shit, are now looking at these legal CP websites. These websites are making the money. These websites are the ones with the demand for more CP and therefore more money.
Does that make more sense?
>>706771741
>being that butthurt
My country is in the fucking center of world's attention. If we stopped trying, everything would go down the drain.
>>706771748
Speak for yourself beta
>>706771942
Surely you must understand the difference between creating an open market for CP and its correlation with increased production against a market for videos of people getting murdered. Very few people get any pleasure from watching someone get murdered and even less would be willing to pay for it.
>>706772209
>Very few people get any pleasure from watching someone get murdered and even less would be willing to pay for it.
You are simply hanging out with the wrong people.
>>706772051
>My country is in the fucking center of world's attention
Yeah, but my country runs that world. If you weren't born in America, you'll never matter. You're just someone we export our culture to and dictate to.
>>706772335
Nah. You're simply trying to justify your ignorant opinions by any means necessary.
>>706753309
>>706753309
ITS ACTUALLY THE MURDERERS CANNIBALS AND ABUSERS (THE ONES WHO FORCE THEMSELVES UNTP THE INNOCENT CAUSING TRAUMATIC SITUATIONS/EXPERIENCES) NOTHING MORE
ITS PEOPLES MALIGNMENT OF FOCUS
THEIR PERSPECTIVES FEAR BASED AFFIRMING CONTRIBUTING THESE OCCOURRANCES HOWEVE THE TRUTH OF LOVE CAN OVER RIDE OVER POWER AND DEFEAT THESE DESTROYERS OF LIFE
LOVE IS LOVE COMMUNICATION BONDING
TELEPATHY IS NATURAL GIVE10 FUCKS LESS WHATT ANYONE TELL YOU EVERYONE ALREADY KNOWS EVERYTHING BEHIND THIS VIEL OF DISTRACTIVE TRUMANSHOW LIKE ACTING.
INDULGE IN UNCONDITIONAL LOVE WITHOUT THE LIMITATION OF JUDGMENTAL ASSUMPTIONS PERSPECTIVES OF IRRELEVANCE
>>706761392
Amen
/thread
>>706771748
"Murder" is definitely happening "legally" in most of the videos you're probably thinking of. It's usually war.
And yes, having web sites legally make money off of those videos definitely gives people an incentive to record all of the death that occurs in war torn areas.
>>706772398
>You're just someone we export our culture to and dictate to.
>remembers the shock in the "world greatest nation's" government 1960 when Europe was supposed to become block-free
>remembers the determination with which East Europe got pushed into the NATO
>knows that the U.S.A. has massive amounts of debts in my country and would be completely broke if it wasn't for high-level treason
Hahaha.
>
>>706772422
Nah, you just never got to hang out with truly interesting folk.
What have I done
>>706771457
No they were really looking for you. Better run home and destroy PCs, tablets, phones, drives, anything infected.
>>706772897
you shot franz ferdinand
>>706772800
>what it looks like when foriegners try to justify not killing themselves
>>706772964
That was a fun war.
>>706773019
I don't, because unlike you I am needed objectively. If I am not in place, hundreds will lose their livelihood, even in mighty America.
You know what? I should just stop being in place and make sure hundreds of Muricans get fired. I don't care, but what about them?
>>706773184
You sound like an important man at the sneaker factory.
>>706772209
Have you...never been in a rekt thread before?
>>706761392
While I can generally agree with your post, many teens have performed in and even produced CP without being abused, tricked, or betrayed.
>>706773318
>implying I am working in Murica
lol
>>706772897
You've opened pandora's box
>>706772897
You cropped out the dang motorcycle
I fucked a 15 when I was 20, Bitch was at a college party. Told me she was 18
for the win
It should be illegal, but only the abusers and the people buying/selling it should be getting raped in prison.
Just an idea: Make it law that if you're a pedo, you need to be able to prove that you didn't pay for it.
>>706773391
I'm too tired to keep this up. Good night anon.
you fucking retards realize that a kid still needs to get fucked for CP to be made, right?
I volunteer as tribute.
Is cp still legal in france?
>>706773762
>lost the shitposting
>running away like a bitch
4chan is too retarded. Can't wait until this place runs out of money and is closed down.
>>706773184
> I am needed objectively
LUL
delusional
>>706773854
I am just smiling at you, knowing that you'll never experience the feeling of actually truly being needed in order to make things run smoothly. That is injury enough for you.
>>706773853
I literally realized that it's not worth the effort explaining what's wrong with your posts anymore. I'm not running away, I'm simply giving up on trying to explain things to you like an equal.
Here's a taste though: I never implied you were working in America with the sneaker factory remark. We don't make sneakers in America. If you weren't a subhuman non-native English speaker, then you would've understood this nuance. I attempted to end the conversation early so that you could save some face and give you the opportunity to pretend you still deserve to have pride, even though your existence is a dead end due to where you live. I wanted to take the high-road and end the conversation on a note of humanism and understanding that we're all people and I respect that you're trying to advance yourself by learning the English master language. But you just couldn't leave it alone for your own good.
Fuck your cp, there's a clown outside
>>706774360
>cp
>Clown Picture
>>706774352
>I literally realized that it's not worth the effort explaining what's wrong with your posts anymore.
And yet do you. Do you just realize how autistic you are?
>We don't make sneakers in America.
Hahahaha.
You might want to take a good research on sneaker factories in Murica. It's become so cheap that some already started producing there.
If you weren't a subhuman native English speaker, then you would have known this.
>I attempted to end the conversation early so that you could save some face and give you the opportunity to pretend you still deserve to have pride
Nope. You got a new asshole teared wide open, you know that, and YOU are trying to save some face here. That's simple egoistical. Nothing wrong with that per se. But your reasons are so weak that I literally fell off the bed when I read yet another attempt of you failing at basically everything.
>>706774686
>And yet do you. Do you just realize how autistic you are?
*altruistic
>Hahahaha.
Stop being butthurt. Only females and emotionally compromised people go through the trouble of convincing everyone they're laughing.
>You might want to take a good research on sneaker factories in Murica. It's become so cheap that some already started producing there.
You seem to know a lot about sneakers for not making them...
>teared
*tore
>>706775098
>*altruistic
No, autistic.
>nly females and emotionally compromised people go through the trouble of convincing everyone they're laughing.
Hahaha.
Haha.
Hahahaha.
Hahahahahahah.
Ha.
Hahahaha.
Hahaha.
Ok, last one:
Hahahahahahahaha.
See? I just don't care.
Hahahahaha.
>You seem to know a lot about sneakers for not making them...
Simple google search might have lifted your veil of idiocy. You didn't.
>*tore
>implying I care about teared assholes.
>>706775301
>Simple google search might have lifted your veil of idiocy. You didn't.
But I did. The only recognizable brand of sneakers made in America are New Balance.
>>706775440
So?
>>706775514
So your assertion that sneaker factories are on the rise in America seems to be false, considering none of the other producers have volume or brand recognition. Maybe you're confused and boots means the same thing as sneakers in your dead language. Because we do make very fine leather boots.
>>706774360
timestamp your clown plz
>>706750695
>Putting them in a list
>The next hitler comes
Nty
>>706775827
Nah, you got that wrong. Like, completely. And I gave you the chance to double-check, and you failed.
Because you said "recognizable" brand. "Recognizable" is not objectively defined, it's just an attribute that may or may not apply. When I search for "sneakers made in usa" I get way more hits, albeit New Balance is indeed the first hit.
My assertion was not false. You are just - yet again - too autistic to see past your point. Or you should learn how to use those quotation marks in online searches.
>>706776168
>keeps talking
>fails to provide evidence supporting his assertion
Foreigners, folks.
Recognizable means something I can purchase in multiple available locations and is advertised nationally to a degree to which I and my peers would recognize the brand. That's literally what a recognizable brand is. You'd know this if you weren't autistic and second world.
>>706776438
>ignores suggested searching method
>"hurr durr I am right second world"
God, Muricans are retarded.
Also, that's not the common definition of "recognizable". That's YOUR autistic definitoin.
>>706764473
>but its the current year
girls today view whores like nicki minaj and miley cyrus as role models
>>706775386
does this shit put you on a list?
>>706776628
>doesn't understand how burden of proof works because they don't teach that in the second world
>flounders when given an objective definition for something he wrongly assumed to be subjective
If a majority of people don't recognize the brand, it's not recognizable. Stop being a pedantic faggot.
>>706776921
>doesn't understand how simple research works in Murica, which has effectively become second world
>expects to be spoon-feed direct answers instead of getting handed too complicated searching instructions
And as a friendly reminder: Murica is gonna be fucked with either Clinton or Trump.
>>706777129
>lost because he still doesn't understand burden of proof
Goodnight, subhuman.
letting cp be legal wouldn't really be fair to the children that have been forced or coerced to participate
>>706777222
>>lost because he still doesn't understand simple research
Goodnight, soon-2-be-subhuman.
>>706777375
>arguing with trips
>>706777505
>admitting autism
Only autistic people care that much about numbers.