Who would win? Master Chief or 100 Space Marines?
What about if 10 were Terminators?
Tough call. I guess it'd depend on terrain. If its open field or whatever, marines no doubt. If it was more urban or close quarters and Chief knew the terrain, I think he'd win. But he'd definitely win against Terminators, he's too quick for them imo.
>>706627609
My thoughts aswell, he's not just strong, he's fast aswell, really fucking fast.
Samus Aran would win.
Space marines. I don't even feel the need to justify it. Chief just doesn't have the chops.
>>706626749
Well u don't have to worry about the terminators cuz eventually they'll be back
1v1 chief might be able to beat one or two before going down, if they have their generic loadout weapons chief would lose after killing a few just due to how strong their armor is and how many bullets it'd take to down one
>>706626749
mfw Master Chief is a space marine.
>>706626749
Nice bait.
>>706628047
he wouldn't win 1v1 and i know it for a fact!
>>706628047
Yeah but he's CHIEF. He'll just take their best weapons.
>>706627609
Space marines are inhumanly fast and they're used to fighting things that are small and fast like the eldar, they also have 40k armour and gene tech and are skilled at a variety of combat situations so... Chief would get his ass moped across the floor anywhere
>>706627727
>>706627609
how long have you been smoking crack
Master chief couldnt beat one space marine. 3 bolt round or a melta shot would turn chief into thin gruel, and im a fucking halo nerd.
Hey i hate to be that guy.. Where are the marine dudes from? Ive seen them everywhere
>>706630256
Warhammer 40k
>>706630256
warhammer. Board game turned books turned movies turned video games
>>706626749
No question about it even 1v1 space marine would win
MC would have a good chance against one space marine, but 40k is so much farther removed from reality and everything in that universe is so overpowered that it really isn't a comparison.
>>706629725
This, idk how this question is even around, halofags are delusional by der luv 4 cheef.
>>706626749
He wouldn't even beat 1 Space Marine
>>706630920
Games any good? Movies on netflix?
>>706629725
Small and fast enemies like swarms of the flood, covenant drones, or the teleporting Prometheans? Special armor like Mjolnir? Gene tech like Spartan genetic enhancements? Variety of combat situations like ground, zero G, air and ground vehicle combat, and adapting to unknown tech and using it against whoever he got it from? Give him a chance, man.
>>706626749
Much as I love the chief, it's gotta be the marines.
>>706628048
Master Chief isn't a rank in the Marines. Master Chief is with the Navy.
>>706632689
Marines originated in the navy.
Space marines.
A man isn't going to kill an Astartes unless he outnumbers him 100 to 1 and even then it's a tossup. Even if it's THE Chief, it's not gonna be a contest.
>>706627812
Uve seen haloid?
>>706629556
Nah. The chief would lose because they are from two very different universes. Chief is pretty good but not even close to a space marine.
Cheif will just annoy spacemarines to death with callouts
I dont know much about space marines and i looked them up. Wouldnt plasma weapons eat through space marine's armor like butter?
>>706633441
nah their armor could handle much more than that. its not even metal, its a kind of ceramic composite.
>>706632126
Literally all you mentioned is in 40k and far deadlier, space marines are the ultimate warriors, they have better weaponry and armour, training, size, and speed, all they do and know is war, they are truly the champions of mankind. You just are blinded by your love for halo, I get it, I love halo too, I love both, but if you think master chief could take on a space marine let alone ten, you ser are a mad man.
Don't think MC has a good chance 1v1 let alone 1v100. The average age of a space marine is around 300 years old. MC is about what 50? So these guys on average have 6 times the combat experience he does. Not only that but their genetic modifications meet or exceed MC own in just about every way. One on one maybe 70 - 30 in favor of the space marine. Versus 100, assuming he gets the element of surprise he would probably get 1 shot off then die to a hail of fire the likes of which he has never seen.
The real question is.
Who should have won?
Magnus the red vs Leman Russ
>>706634916
for all we know leman russ is still kicking his ass
>>706631969
Look up Dawn of War and Warhammer 40000: Space Marine.
>>706634916
A much better question indeed, or if sanguinius was rested when he fought horus? Or if sanguinius, dorn, and emps all found horus together what would have happened?
>>706630011
this. However, what about 100 Forerunner prometheans(not the halo4/5 POS robots) vs. 100 space marines?
>>706635305
Alright man thanks
>>706634151
well, not the ultimate warriors
Space Marine < Daemon Possessed Marine < Grey Knight < Adeptus Custodes
>>706635251
Leman is like Lion, so confusing character wise, he would be brash and then level headed and humble the next moment, Lion would be in control and emotionless and then rage out at people, really all the primarchs are like that though I guess, Dorn was uncompromising and then gave into the codex. The writers did a good job making them multidimensional characters but shit they're all confusing because everything you know about them seems to be entirely situational based and nothing is set in stone about them.
>>706635669
You know what I mean brother
>>706634151
Not blinded, I'm a big 40k fan and Space Marines kick ass. But superior technology, size, training, and speed has never stopped Chief before, he adapts. All he knows is war as well. Besides, someone has to argue for the other side otherwise this is just a 40k circlejerk.
>>706635823
yeah thats like that with canons that are wrote by multiple authors, they each want to add something to the character
>>706635386
If Magnus didn't screw up considering his paranoia the Horus heresy would never have happened
And yeah. Taking on Horus 1v1 at a time was a horrible idea
As much as I hate the ultramarine I feel bad for roboute guilliman
>>706634916
If Magnus doesnt hold back, he wins.
>>706636141
That's the problem, it was Magnus's love for his brother that held him back.
>>706635669
Which are all flavors of Space Marine.
>>706636686
The warp mutates the marine to the point they share no biological similarities.
Grey knights are, on ever level, a cut above a marine.
Custodes are on a whole different level. im not even sure its listed how a custode is even created. So to imply that they are just a "flavor" of space marine is ignorant.
>>706636016
That's true but they must collaborate to a degree with each other and know past works, they know who they're writing about so it is intentional, I think that it's part of making the characters as diverse as possible because they are after all demigods so they would not be a simplistic character. Some are just more pure of heart, or strong of body, or quick of mind than the others.
Slightly off topic, who do you think would win in a fight between Master Chief and ten of these terminators?
>>706626749
>when dumb halo fanboys don't understand that a space marine scout, the shittiest of them, could dumpster master chief. Nothing would even hurt them unless it was a rocket or laser, and even then a single shot wouldn't kill them.
>>706637449
You're totally right, Master Chief never destroyed anything that couldn't be blown up with a single rocket.
>>706637449
you do realise scouts wear the same armor type as Imperial Guard, right?
>>706626749
What the fuck do you have against the chief man
he gets dumpstered by fucking ONE Space Marine
>>706637349
chief easily
the prometheans of hlao 4/5 are a lot more advanced, and he's been able to take out hundreds and even help imprison the last confirmed living forerunner who built them.
>>706626749
a hundred space marines is enough to conquer a planet yea skrubs, it would be a real challenge or master chief 1v1.
>>706626749
1v1 it would be a tough call between a SPARTAN II or a Space Marine
Also what kind of space marine? Lets just go ahead and say ultramarine battle brother so we get the most generic of generic marines VS one Spartan II
SPARTAN II
>recharging energy shield
>faster
>Critical thinking skill
>Smaller target
Space Marine
>thicker armor
>better weapons
>Harsher training
>more experience
Similarities
>recruited from the best humans possible
>Peak human fitness and genes (then augmented)
>Similar strength
Spartan IIs in their armor are semi-capable of dodging bullets, this speed and agility is comparable to Eldar, with the benefit of them being much, much better armored.
Space marines can tank anti material missiles like they are nothing, and go through far more rigorous training than the Spartans ever could
SM weapons are far better than anything the USMC has, except for possibly the portable railgun or spartan laser (Power swords comparable to plasma swords) (Bolters comparable to brute shots)
The primary difference between the two is that Spartans are trained to think critically and adapt to any given battlefield, where SMs are primarily trained to act according to their battle codex. So while the Spartan may have to hit the SM many many times to take them out, the Spartan could possibly throw them a curveball.
I'll give it to the Spartan for small skirmishes. In large scale battles the SMs would destroy them at range.
>>706638098
Prometheans arnt half as scary as what marines have gone up against.
>>706626749
MC couldn't beat one Space Marine let alone 90+Terminators.
The only UNSC weapon that could maybe get through your standard marine's armour is the Spartan Laser. Compare that to a bolter which is more than enough to not only take down his shields, but to pierce the Mjolnir itself.
>>706626749
He can beat a single Astra Militarum, he'll die against 100. Maybe he can fight upto 10 Tempestus Scions. Against a single Adeptus Astartes, he's dead.
>>706638620
I was replying to a post that said chief vs. terminators
>>706639397
>Astra Militarum
>>706639397
>>706639380
I usually side with 40K
However SPARTAN IIs deserve a bit of credit here (Keep in mind the game weakens them for gameplay purposes)
They are recruited from the best and the brightest possible human beings genetically speaking,
trained from age 10 and forwards
many of them wash out
Their augments further enhance this to the point where getting shot point blank unarmored will not pierce their ribcage
In their MJOLNIR armor they can dodge bullets and tank a glancing blow from a jet mounted missile, and literally allows them to flip over a tank. The armor itself can take plasma shots comparable to Tau weaponry
SPARTANS IIs are basically faster, lighter versions of space marines with better technical skill
>>706638457
>recharging energy shield
Shield Tech is not unknown in 40k, and beaten.
>faster
doubt it, just because a marine looks bulky doesnt mean they are slow. Their armor is basically a second skin.
>Critical thinking skill
A marine would see more combat in the Scout stages of his service than MC. Marines are hyper inteligent from all the brain augmentations. Combine the 2 and you have Superior critical thinking.
>Smaller target
that means nothing
Railguns and Spartan lasers have a 40k equivalent, The Las Cannon.
Space marine have beaten hundreds of different foes across the galaxy. To say that 1 guy who has only fought 4 different hostile forces across a handfull of years has better critical thinking is ludicrous. Marines have fought wars longer than MC has been in service. The Codex Astartes is merely a guideline on how Marines conduct themselves, maintain wargear, train, ect. Any marine will resort to any means if needed to achieve victory aside from committing heresy.
>>706632126
You literally described the everyday Monday for a space marine. Chief couldn't take a single space marine, let alone a 1/10th of a chapter including terminators
>>706639615
>Astra Militarum
IG could probably kill a Spartan if they had enough reinforcements or sent in a specialist team
Spartans could probably take a near limitless amount of guards themselves in the right situation, but a team of Catachans might be able to kill a spartan
1 Space Marine > 10 Spartans
>>706639894
By that logic, Master Chief can easily killed any of the Temple Assassins.
>>706640182
imperial guard are to numerous and sport far to many tanksand various other war machines to give in to a bunch of spartans
>>706637755
Scouts are trained under a completely different regimen, they're LEAGUES above the common Imperial Guardsman, not including their upgraded tech
>>706626749
space marines of course gtfo with anything else
>>706639894
i suggest putting down the crack pipe
>>706640035
>faster
I'm not doubting SMs are fast
Pretty sure in their armor they are stated as being able to run around 60MPH consistently which is really goddamn fast for something that bulky. Thats about the top speed of a modern day abrams tank.
Spartans however can run around twice that speed, and again, according to the books they can effectively dodge bullets.
>Spartan laser=lascannon
not a bad comparison actually, so would a las cannon punch through ceremite armor?
>Marines are hyper inteligent from all the brain augmentations.
Spartans are the same
>More experience
Can't debate that one. But I am under the impression that SMs are more rigid in their combat doctrine.
1v1 its a toss up
small squad combat its a toss up
total war setting SMs win 100% of the time
>>706640448
buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut Scouts and guardmen both use Carapace Armor.
>>706639894
Nigga the shields in Halo are absolute shit. Shangeli shields get down by a single burst of the assault rifle in the ending cutscene of Reach. An assault rifle firing identical rounds to modern 7.62 ammo.
Everything you just listed the Spartan doing, Marines do that too, except with better equipment.
>>706627970
this guy
>>706640597
>i suggest putting down the crack pipe
never
>>706635588
But do NOT look at any others. Just stay away. Trust me
>>706627609
Lol even one space Marine would kill atleast 10 spartan. They are 2,50m big and have tech from year 40 000. You are stupid
>>706635386
Horus would get totally auschwitzed by all three of them, no doubt.
>>706640704
Space marines are said to, when moving full speed, appear as a blur to the human eye. Marines have aslo bested Eldar, who are undoubtedly faster then MC.
>>706626749
ITT: does the 800 year old fully armored 2,50m, gen and body modified, tech from 40 000 year elite soldier win or does the guy out of year 3000.
>>706638203
No they arent. 100 marines would spearhead the invasion, but most of the actual conquest would be done by IG
>>706638203
Depends what lives on the planet. Space Marines are compared to some other species in 40k really weak. for example Eldar or tyranids or necrons
>>706641649
Buuut when marines strike, they take out High Value targets first, then mop up the rest. It has been done.
>>706640182
Standard IG couldn't, but a Kasrkin could 50/50 a no-name Spartan II, since a squad can generally counter space Marines. IIRC
>>706641149
Well yeah, but we aren't talking about any Spartan, its MC after all, who stands out even amongst super soldiers
>>706641938
Exactly, but my point was more that you don't send Marines to solo a planet, they function more like ODST where they do precision strikes on the important targets, not fight in full on slugfests
>>706640827
>>identical rounds
not quite, same caliber ≠ same power
>>706642612
They are armor piercing fmj rounds quite literally the only difference listed by Halopedia.
>>706642013
>Kasrkin
A squad of Kasrkin could probably take a Spartan II no problem.
>>706642362
not always. Marines companies has taken planets, it just takes a few months but they get the job done.
>>706642710
Right, but considering the time jump between now and then, I would think that advancements in gunpowder, materials and overall velocity would be assumed
>>706642362
15 hours.
>>706642821
What are they gonna give him skin cancer with their flashlights?
>>706642890
Not saying there aren't exceptions or that they COULDN'T just that they aren't generally as a rule of thumb because they are more useful as an elite strike force While IG more easily take more territory because of number. Emperor's Sword vs Emperor's Hammer kind of thing
a squad of terminators wouldnt even be hurt by the chief
>>706643100
>Flashlights
>u wot m8
>>706626749
Halo year 2520
Warhammer 40 000
Everyone thinking over 35000 years of technological advancement wouldn't make a huge difference is retarded. The 40k Blaster probably need just 1 shot to kill and spartan weapon cannot even dmg space Marine Armor.
True retards
>>706643412
>not a Hotshot Lasgun
only one person in the squad would have a plasma gun.
>>706643412
>>flashlights
>>shows Kasrkin with plasma gun
>>706635993
you are aware that master chief its just a mary sue in his universe, while W40k have legions of mary sues and there are even bigger mary sues inside those mary sues legions and then there is Kaldor Draigo on top of that, so yeah chief is fucked, aslo fuck the smurf fucking mary sues
Such a fucking stomp. Chief could probably win in a 1v1 but just barely, a 2v1 chief would get destroyed. 100v1 is ridiculous.
>>706643389
>Squad of terminators
A single terminator wouldn't be bothered by anything the UNSC has to offer aside from vehicle mounted weaponry
Spartans could fight SM scouts or battle brothers on relatively equal footing, anything heavier or emperor forbid they had to fight a SM psyker they are dead
To all HALO fans thinking "Spartans are faster so it's an advantage"... well, Spartans are slower than the fucking Eldar
And SM's usually mop the floor with the fucking elves
Also "more rigid doctrine", well if you only count the damn ultrasmurfs, but SM's have all kinds of combat doctrines and tactics, not all follow Codex Astartes at 100% and some even never follow the codex astartes (Black Templars)
>>706643625
You are retarded. Marine could even kill 10 Chief without problems
this obvy goes to chief since the space marine cant qwikscope
>>706643629
or a sweet sweet dreadnaught
>>706643100
Hellguns baby, Hellguns
>>706626749
troll thread but ok. SMs are super humans, master chief is just an enhanced man, so he has no chance 1v1
>>706643559
Honestly anything that can punch through ceremite could probably punch through MJOLNIR layered crystalline, ceramic, and titanium armor plating
>>706626749
Plot armor always wins /b/uddy, just saying
>>706643599
Plasma cannons like that would probably be the equivalent of a hunter plasma cannon
So 2 direct hits would kill a spartan
>>706643787
Yea an over powered flashlight will hurt him, the only thing thatd hurt him would be an assault cannon or lightning claws
>>706629815
Master Chief out ran and survived a fucking missile launched from a fighter jet chasing him down during a training exercise. Get fucked.
>>706643100
The lasgun is called a flashlight due to its relative weakness in the setting.
Chief doesn't have the god-emperor (praise his name). Fucking heretics in this thread haven't mentioned this yet?
>>706643849
>dont forget the over shield which is used to disperse energy weapons.
>>706644144
Yeah, Terminators however are just to goddamn hard to kill
>>706643836
>just an enhanced man
Nigger he's fucking augmented. Plus the armor/AI combo unlocks his full capabilities practically making him super human.
One word. Exterminatus.
>>706644234
They were talking about a squad.
>>706644144
Marneus Calgar used a god as his fuck toy. get fucked.
>>706644250
Don't get mad Battle Brother. This battle is so insignificant to the Emperor's Finest that we didn't mention Holy God Emperor
Faith is my shield
Genetic super warrior from around 2500 ad vs genetic super warrior from around 30,000 ad . All it takes is one folks, But mah different universes. You're comparing a warrior that fights against small little midgets that blow them selves up compared to ones that fight creatures from the pits of hell. Master chief couldn't beat one pretty marine let alone a space marine. Hell I bet he couldn't even beat a regular guards men that has the same armor as the chief.
>>706644501
i say master chief could beat a lamenter.
>>706644484
Ok I remember having a thread like this months ago.
Everybody pretty much agree that we can't compare these two universes, because one is fantasy and one is science fiction.
>>706644594
yeah, all he has to do is wait for their deep strike mishap into lava.
>>706644374
>Plus the armor/AI combo unlocks his full capabilities practically making him super human.
Lel how cute
>>706644136
Hellgun would devastate Spartan shields in seconds, because they are energy based plus are used frequently used to combat Chaos marines because they are both rapid fire and can pierce SM armor with said rapid fire
>>706644359
>implying Master Chief hasn't killed countless Prometheans
>>706644501
>regular guards men that has the same armor as the chief.
Non augmented humans cannot use MJOLNIR armor, it moves so quickly that it shatters normal human bone with quick movements.
SPARTAN IIs required some extensive training (and a cushioning gel layer later) to properly use the armor to its fullest capacity.
>>706644501
Maybe he could beat one of the orc goblins
>>706644374
>>Plus the armor/AI combo unlocks his full capabilities practically making him super human.
>>Plus the armor/AI combo
lololololol
Master Chief dies in <10 seconds against a single SM.
>>706644790
>Muh two hearts and magic shit
Not even comparable.
space marines
easily
>>706644633
more like, one its a mary sue in a universe designed for everyone in that universe to worship his cock, the other its a universe of mary sues trying to kill each other.
Who cares. Halo is a piece of shit series for retarded consolefags.
>>706644633
/thread
>>706644924
Nuffin beats da Orkz
100 battle brothers would absolutely destroy John 117, He's lucky, unnaturally gifted, bla bla bla.
But cannon in the Halo games is considered either normal or heroic. So he aint bullet / bomb proof.
If he fought the 100 astartes one at a time he might, might manage to scrape by with his unnatural luck and talent.
But 100 working in tandem, voxing positions, setting up firing lines, working as battle brothers do? No, he doesn't have a chance
>>706644501
>regular guards men
Chief at the age of 16 accidentally beat several ODST troops to death in a confrontation (orchestrated by his handlers). The books detail how they appeared to be moving in slow motion to the Spartan.
Remember, SPARTAN IIs started off as genetically superior, then were trained and augmented. SMs are probably superior to them, but do read the lore.
ODST are some pretty hardened human troops, I would probably compare them to Elysians or Cadian shock troops. These guys basically use SM style drop pods.
>>706645008
>Not even comparable.
Yeah, master chief will shat himself to death on 10 seconds
https://youtu.be/JjaYW5Cnr5k
>>706644501
I think people are underestimating the shit out of cortana lol. She's chiefs greatest weapon asset really. Not only does she boost chief's intelligence and reaction speed but she is literally the eyes and ears of chief that provides superhuman sensory powers as well as ability to hack and intercept data -which presumably would be used to communicate between marines.
>>706645150
I'd say chief might beat 1v1 standard marine
A psyker marine, brother captain, or chapter master would utterly dominate him
>>706644875
>put suit on
>move finger
>finger contorts into pretzel and fractues in several places
>hand immediately contorts and fractures into several shards and tears apart inside the gauntlet
>slams into your chest
>before you even shriek in pain
>your entire abdomen rips wildly, counter-clockwise
>arm bends 270 degrees towards you in less than 0.5 seconds
>spine snaps
>neck snaps
>neck tears itself apart from attempt to vocalize pain and shock
>rest of body turned into shredded pretzel
>morbid scream escapes your corpse
>in the span of 7 seconds
Mmm, power armor.
Doesnt matter how smart a human is cortana is a superintelligence that has the processing power of like a billion humans.
>>706645283
silly little abominable intelligence has nothing to do against bolter fire
Could a squad of Spartans defeat a Terminator?
What about a Dreadnought brother?
How will you fire at a target that knows where you are but you dont know where he is?
>>706641149
Their "tech from year 40 000" consists of fucking guns, you dumb asshole. It's literally just fucking
GUNS.
Thassit. It's just a bullets
>>706645542
I believe in the books it was the soldier attempted to salute, and wound up fracturing his skull and hand, which he then spasmed in pain leading to further fractures, etc, and effectively beat himself to death on the inside of the armor.
The first SPARTANs that wore the armor also suffered some muscle soreness until a better cushioning gel layer was added.
However, the armor again lets you dodge bullets, flip tanks, and take a blast from a hellfire missile.
Also I don't believe non-astartes can use astartes power armor
>>706645719
with lots of dakka
>>706645715
>Terminator
probably, assuming they are properly outfitted like a squad with heavy weapons and shit
>Dreadnought
fuck no. RIP in peace
>>706626749
lol this b8 again? 40K Space Marines all day. Hell even a single Space Marine from any given chapter would shit all over Master Chief. Its unlikely MC could even take on an SM Scout squad.
>>706645715
>Could a squad of Spartans defeat a Terminator?
Maybe, if there were weapons nearby capable of penetrating the armor.
If not, then no. MJOLNIR armor cannot stand up to terminator armor, so they would have to find weapons. However they could outmaneuver a terminator indefinitely
>>706645816
Correct. Not in the least because non-astartes lack the black carapace to interface with it.
>>706645542
Thats pretty good for a guards man. Their life expectancy is like 5 seconds
>>706645629
lets consider different 1v1 scenarios
>MC vs SM wresting match in no armor
SM wins through sheer size, strength, perhaps equal reaction time, but i highly doubt even that.
>1v1 case SM in standard armor with bolter vs MC with standard spartan armor and rifle.
SM wins once again because of better protection, health and his standard weapon does a lot more dmg, while MC can take a lot less punishment compared to SM because of his smaller stature, and A LOT weaker anatomy.
>>706645796
>just bullets
Mini rockets actually, but yes still ballistic ammo mostly
>>706645153
Nigga wouldn't last a month dropped in the jungles of Catachan.
>>706645283
Last I checked Cortana went insane. Even still there is nothing on that list your standard marine doesn't get except for the hacking. Not that being smart will help much when you receive a powerfist to that helmet.
>>706645816
Nowhere in Halo does a Spartan canonically flip a tank. At best they are capable of flipping over a Warthog. Eldar dodge bullets too and marines regularly take them on in combat.
>an imperial guardsman could one-shot chief with the right loadout
>>706645816
>Also I don't believe non-astartes can use astartes power armor
That's right, first because Astartes power armor is made for a 8ft tall super human, second, Space marines have the black caparace, that connects them with their armor
>>706645796
>Thassit. It's just a bullets
i present you the mary sue of bullets
>Bolter Ammunition (a bolt) is primarily a .75 calibre rocket-propelled round. Whereas conventional solid slugs utilise a propellant charge contained in a casing that forces the bullet down the barrel upon ignition, in contrast, a bolt is self-propelled; it features its own integrated solid fuel propellant that propels the bolt at high speeds, essentially acting like a miniature rocket. The propellant itself is shaped to control the bolt's direction and speed; however, this method of rocket propulsion would normally warp the barrel due to gas pressure. The Bolter uses an ingenious two-stage method to prevent this.
I found it amusing you faggots think he could take on a space marine, but you have the balls to try and even think he could dent the armor of a terminator. I'll sit back as he throws his primitive low tech gernades at them. Oh ? Battle rifle rounds look how cute and tiny those rounds are! Compare them to the high explosive rounds the size of fucking fists. 100 space marines? 10 terminators? What a knee slapper!
>>706646012
and dont forget that depending on the enemy they will either be eated,choped, or their souls will be tortured for an eternity.
>>706646169
Sweet sweet fluff
>>706645020
Warhammer focuses on story and Halo balances their characters around gameplay is my understanding of it. There would be no point of playing halo if you were an unkillable instakilling person in the campaign. They really can't be compared like this.
>>706646169
And yet most of the time a bolter is almost useless in the 40K universe. It is the BASIC level of SM armament. What does that say for anything MC can table?
If you've read the books in the Halo series, you'd understand why Chief could beat a Space Marine. Only in a 1v1 though, anything more and it's RIP Chiefkeef. Here's why though.
Master Chief, being the peak of human genetics was further augmented through mutation. His bones made out of Titanium, muscle density 10x fold, along with critical thinking and battle simulation as well as numerous combat occasions.
Here's where it gets interesting.
Chiefkeef was outfitted with the MJOLNIR Mark II Armor, upgrading his strength, defenses, and thought capacity, he is directly plugged into the suit. He thinks so fast, that everything he sees is in slow motion. This is called Spartan Vision.
Chief may not be able to directly confront a space marine in a brute contest of strength, but his power of though would allow him to creare a battle tactic to defear the marine.
Also, the armor allows you to withstand a nuclear detonation within a few inches of your goddamn face as per the ending of Halo 4.
>ITT: Nerds get salty about their husbando getting shat on
Besides, anyone who isn't autistic knows that a xenomorph queen and like 6 xenos would cuck Mister Chef, the Space Sardines, AND Tervibrator and still have time to shit up the local ecosystem
>>706646640
I thought Chief survived that on the account of Cortana projecting the hard light field around him for a brief moment (when she was manifesting herself out of the light to make herself "real").
>>706626749
MC is is similar to early experiments the emperor was doing on the imperial army before he was finished fleshing out the space marines. They're every bit as fast, much stronger, just as clever, some are psychic, and they spends literally centuries training and battling every known/unknown threat on every terrain.
Marines hands down.
1 vs 1 I think it would have more to do with who ever had the element of suprise. If neither of them are caught flatfooted however it'd go to the space marine.
>>706646640
Everything you list Space Marines have plus a shit ton more. Master Chief would get chewwed, up spat out, reingested and used as fuel.
>>706646829
Fuck, I think you maybe right. That slow motion battleplan though? Fuck me marines OP
>>706646909
>1 vs 1 I think it would have more to do with who ever had the element of suprise. If neither of them are caught flatfooted however it'd go to the space marine.
thing is SM can take a lot more punishment, not only because of much better armor, but also black carapace 2x hearts.. just read about SM anatomy and compare it to a Spartan.
>>706646640
Yeah, no.
That nuclear detonation thing was just so they could use the Cortana sacrifice as a plot device. (that everyone knew was bullshit for some emoshuns game ender). Go stand next to a plasma grenade, or read about what happens to spartans when they're shot by a charged plasma pistol with their shields down in the books.
Halo 4 Cortana sacrifice, and a lot of what happened in that game, was complete wank. The chief and all the dumb shit that goes on around him flies in the face of everything else going on in that world, and shouldn't be considered canon.
The action scenes in the hobbit are more realistic and universe-based then that nuke in halo 4.
I'm pretty sure a Spartan Laser would smoke a Space Marine. Just sayin.
>>706647080
I was thinking more along the lines of exploding rounds in the head or booby traps though, if it were hand to hand or small arms ya space marine all the way.
>>706646169
Don't forget that standard space marine ammo has a warhead payload on the tip, any penetrating damage ends in a devastating internal explosion or just rocks the solid target with a concussive blast if it finds something that is able to block the Emperor's will.
>>706647371
>>706647371
>he used a le rage meme
Kill yourself, I hope a Spartan AND a Space Meme eat your prostate pudding you blueberry ape
>>706647116
>what are Lascannons
Battle Brothers have been known to take direct hits with Lascannons from less than 50 yards and not only survive but get up and stomp some ass. You horribly underestimate Astarte Armor.
>>706634916
Fuck! That's a great question! I fucking hate chaos and my fav chapter is the space wolves but Magnus is so fucking strong plus now he's a god damn demon prince.bi have to say Magnus ;/
>>706646939
Marines take on Eldar whom are described as blurs by normal humans. Tactics ain't going to do shit if you are fighting an enemy where none of your guns can scratch them, they have equal or better physical capabilities, weapons far superior to yours and 50 to 200 years of combat experience fighting shit that makes your enemies look cuddly by comparison.
>>706647336
What trap could he possibly spring that a marine would a) fall for or b) deal enough damage to take one out of the fight. And what the hell kind of explosive round is he packing that could pierce? It sure as hell isn't that sniper rifle firing PTRD ammo.
>>706646640
>Master Chief, being the peak of human genetics was further augmented through mutation. His bones made out of Titanium, muscle density 10x fold, along with critical thinking and battle simulation as well as numerous combat occasions.
space marines have 19 extra organs that do that and even more
>Chiefkeef was outfitted with the MJOLNIR Mark II Armor, upgrading his strength, defenses, and thought capacity, he is directly plugged into the suit. He thinks so fast, that everything he sees is in slow motion. This is called Spartan Vision.
the regular space marine power armor besides being extreme durable its just buff all the bullshit their got from the extra organs. and thats just the average Mark VII power armor
>>706647507
.. que?
Talking about spartan armor in that post...
>>706647631
Fuck you guys. I'm over here listening to Warhammer 40k lore and it's 12:00 A.M. goddamnit this shit is interesting.
>>706632689
dumb fuck Marines are Navy
>>706647849
>>706646939
How did you get access to my porn flashdrive
>>706647919
We both have good taste.
![grimdarkgrimdark[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/D0OwpR1.jpg "grimdarkgrimdark[1].jpg")
>>706647849
Look Spartans are essentially made to withstand alot of las fire.
Space Marines have access to melta guns.
One shot from a melta gun and master cheif is goo.
>>706647979
3 FOR THREE DUDE WHAT THE FUCK
I'll put it like this do you halo faggots can understand. A space marine has 50 years minimum of combat experience that's older then MC to 200+ years depending on the marine. So imagine MC and all the training and combat experience his been through multiples twice. That's a least experience space marine for you. Now you fucking faggots thinks he can take on a terminator? A terminator is the seal team six of the space marine your talking about an MC multiples several times! You faggots are delusional
>>706647849
you just have see the true light of the Emperor, Praise the Emperor
>>706648040
Like I said, goddamn interesting.
You niggers just want moar porn don'tchu?
>>706648211
Sorry I'm on phone shitty grammar
>>706646640
Space marines deal with eldar literally all day.
They would know how to deal with a weak tiny target that keeps running around seeing stuff in slow-mo
>>706626749
Space marines are nothing like Spartans.
Spartans are more or less just a continuation of 'realistic' soldiers. Better armor, better weapons, body modification, whatever.
But space marines are on a whole nother level.
They are clones of demigods and most have spent literal centuries doing nothing but fighting in gigantic wars 24/7.
Add to that almost comically insane weapons, armor and fighting doctrines and you realize how this isn't even a contest if it 1on1.
Here is an actual fun thought
Primarch Leman Russ VS Entire Halo Universe.
>>706648315
>>706648505
>>706648620
>>706648620
Nigress Heresy is forgiven, right?
Just for comparison.
Halo has trouble beating the flood.
The Imperium of man 13 Black Crusade.
>While dealing with eldar
>While dealing with tyranids
>While dealing with orks
>While sorta dealing with tau
>>706648802
>>706626749
Chief or 100 Space Marines?
Space Marines wipe the floor with Chief, way too many for Chief to take down. He'll take some with him but they eventually rape him
Chief vs. 10 Terminators?
Terminators are to slow for chief, easy win for the Spartan
>>706648941
>>706648947
Terminators deal with eldar.
And cheif would be a slow fuck even compared to an eldar.
So no, terminator whipes the floor with cheif several times over.
>>706649040
What a lovely sororitas.
I think i seen her somewhere.. oh wait.
>>706649124
Asking who would win between chief and a space marine is like comparing a medieval knight to a tank. Now don't get me wrong I'm on the chief train but the space marines are technology superior and would no doubt win in a fight, tho I think chief could take down at least one or two before getting blown up by a nuke shooting missile or some donkey
>>706649250
>>706649250
>>706649283
I don't even think Cheif is stronger than an eldar, so i really doubt he'd even get through the armor of a space marine.
>>706649343
>>706649433
Yay fellow chaos!
>>706648947
Well, except they're still faster than a regular human by a massive magnitude and the armor is almost invincible. Even with a scorpion he'd not be able to crack it before they made him into a red smear.
>>706649488
>>706649599
>>706649488
>>706649433
Dubs for Chaos!
>>706649580
not to mention a bunch of them can literally invade his psyche and drive him to shoot himself.
>>706637449
>when this entire thread is just
>"no marines are better"
>"no chief is better"
And here I was expecting a real argument.
>>706626749
The chief has luck on his side. And infinite respawns. Coming from someone who's beaten every Halo Legendary ASO I can say with confidence that the chief just needs a little patience and a lot of explosves
>>706649682
Or banish him to the warp.
He'd have a blast there being completely untrained in willpower and all.
>>706649675
I got tons of 'em
recognize this guy?
A Space Marine is just a more advanced version of Master Chief in every way. Of course they would win.
>>706649815
Space marines deal with people who can't die regularly.
One great solution, banish to the warp.
Master cheif does not have a trained mind, meaning he'd most likely end up as a literal cum sock of slaanesh
>>706649822
Then follow him there and stomp him again.
Dude, a single space marine could take on 10 spartans.
>>706649845
No idea but he's adorable!
Chief just needs to force the Marines into a scenario where it's either die or commit heresy. Then what?
>>706649935
The spartans were trained to resist torture and mental scenarios though. Throw a space marine against shit like the flood, thats what I really wanna see
>>706650052
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaHJgzxmyj0
Like Titus gives a fuck?
>>706650037
Sgt. Tellos from the Soul Drinkers (one of my favorite series). gets corrupted and after his hands get burnt off he shoves chainsaws in the stumps.
>>706626749
Master Chief has plot armor. Space Marines do not have plot armor.
>>706650125
I don't think you get the warp.
If your mind is untrained you won't be tortured, you'll literally be warped and shaped into thoughts and feelings or again, used as a literal cum sock for Slaanesh demons, it has nothing to do with how much you can resist pain.
>>706650219
You never heard of an ultramarine have you?
>>706650219
But they do have almost a feet of ceramite and adamantium. MS got regular ass bullets.
>>706626749
> MC encounters 10 Space Marines
The Two Tactical Marine squads of Five order him to Halt and Identify. Once they have confirmed he is human, and is not a servant of one of the Traitor legions or their subordinate insurrectionist armies, he is promptly instructed to fall in with the forward Unit, so that the threat these Manifestations of the Emperor's Divine Will have been dispatched to destroy.
MC ends up being immeasurably useful to the Tactical Marine squad due to his luck and sheer willpower, and is officially offered a place within the ranks of the respective Chapter's Serf-Forces.
>>706632126
>whoever
whomever
Also worth noting that all of master cheifs weapons are made for fighting lightly armored soldiers, all of space marine weaponry are made for fighting heavily armored soldiers.
>>706650338
>>706650345
Deus ex machina is the most powerful force.
>>706650125
The warp is a dimension akin to hell. space marines regularly combat hordes (tyranid - that actually swarm and eat entire planets), zombie and corrupted guardsman (chaos - who can still use weapons) uber mech warrior races (the tau), powered by pure hate robot hordes that want to wipe out all life (necrons) and fucking ORKS WITH SPACESHIPS
>>706637755
Guard doesn't wear carapace. Only flak
>>706650484
>>706650530
>ORKS WITH SPACESHIPS
They are more like flying treehouses painted red fueled on magic.
>>706632689
Same fucking training, pleb.
>>706650662
RED MAKES THEM GO FASTER
>>706626749
All master chief would need is the BR and a sniper rifle because headshots headshots headshots
>>706650727
I does adorable little mushrooms, it sure does
>>706650772
Yeah those lead bullets sure would do nothing at all.
>>706650823
it*
>>706650868
A standard issue sniper rifle in the Halo Universe is powerful enough to go through 14 feet of Flesh bone and armor
>>706650823
>>706627609
This
Master Chief will win.
He is a Reclaimer.
>>706626749
as much as I love the idea of spartans and how they work, chief would be fucking destroyed. If the accuracy and limb shattering power of a well placed bolt doesn't kill him instantly, the mighty and unending rip and tear of a chainsword, the inescapable earthshaking smash of a thunder hammer, or the crippling blow of a power fist will. If all else fails, one space marine could probably crush his skull with his bare hands like popping a grape.
>>706651000
of halo armor*
In other words cardboard
>>706651000
Also this does not make him immune to steel rain.
>>706651000
Or a powerful psyker just banishing him to the warp before he even knew what happened.
>>706651189
>>706651110
>>706651143
He also has recharging energy Shields as well as an on-board AI to threat assess. Also plasma grenades
>>706651286
>>706646553
Cept Master Chief is exactly on par with Elites, and fights... how many thousands?
Where as Space Marines would look at a Spartan as an elite Guardsman. Since Halo even sees them that way.
Marines are an entirely different league.
But, Master Chief specifically was designed from the ground up as a Mary Sue, since he was on the playground before any training.
Where as Space Marines are battle hardened soldiers that have fought countless campaigns through the most difficult of elimination to get where they are, fighting the most unimaginable foes.
Even if Master Chief was as quick as an Eldar and could teleport around... they've fought that, and are meant to work in a team. They might lose a few men, but the gene seed will go on.
They don't have Mary Sues. Just men yet to die for the Glory of the God-Emperor.
>>706651286
Yes. Plasma grenades are essentially weak melta, which space marine armor is made to withstand.
Space marines also have shields but they don't rely on them like master cheif does. Their armor is tough enough to take damage unlike master cheif. and lead would just bounce off.
>>706651450
Once again Master Chief would be going for precision headshots on the least armored part of their body I promise that a 50 caliber sniper rifle round with punch right through one of their helmets probably a couple of them if they were standing in a row
>>706651450
Why is everyone forgetting that Master Chief has access to Forerunner technology?
>>706651396
>>706651553
There is no least armored part. They are tanks. You can fire lead at a t34 as much as you want but there is a fucking reason you use tungsten to pierce tanks.
>>706651553
only 50cal? they might not even need a helmet.
>>706628826
thats why i said might
>>706651556
this
some of dat sweet sweet hard light forerunner weaponry gonna be lethal
>>706651653
Head.shots. helmets can only be so thick, and I've seen plenty of Space Marines that don't wear helmets at all
>>706651556
And space marines have access to technology from the Dark Age of Technology
Is now a good time to mention chief won in a 1v1 fight with a fully outfitted covenant battle cruiser?
>>706651756
Yes, cause they either have a force field around them, or they are so strong psykers that they don't care about bullets. At all.
Again lead bounces off. It's sorta like shooting butter at a truck.
>>706651675
And if all else really failed Master Chief could always use a plasma sword and I promise it would cut through space marine armor like butter
>>706651553
lol you funny
>>706651556
Because it wouldn't make a shit bit of difference.
>>706651854
He'd have a hard time with that.
The chief unless they manage to get behind him and wack him twice with the butt of their guns.... lol
>>706651854
Ever heard of a power sword?
Also space marines are MADE for close combat.
>>706651756
Thickness doesn't matter when you're working with densities that make your skull look like paper.
Independent Autism Evaluation
Warhammer fan boys posting pics
>autistic
Halo fan boys not posting pics
>not autistic
>>706651857
Of all things we know about 117 so far is that he could just activate a ring and wipe them the fuck out.
We still have much more to learn about what he can do.
>>706651961
Not really because he's faster more agile it would be like a Jedi with a lightsaber running and jumping around. They would be too slow, also it would be nearly impossible for all 100 of them to engage him at once there be too many of their own men in their way to get a shot at him and then he could just pick them off a few at a time
>>706652126
Forgot to add:
You lose plebs. It was over before it even started.
>>706643762
Pretty sure they can't do killshots either
I'd give it to the space marines even in a 1v1.
I base my judgement on tabletop and reach as neither of those are prone to plot-armoring.
Scenario 1: stock
SM wins because battle rifle (stub gun) fails to pen marine armor
Scenario 2: melee
Sm wins because storm shield and power sword outlast energy sword
Scenario 3: full load out
Tie because the Spartan laser and lascannon are nearly identical in power and both prove very effective at killing heavily armored targets
>>706652229
Again. He gets banished to the warp from a mile away. Not sure how he'd counter that.
>>706652146
they're just as superhuman fast, and many are psychic, and could literally kill him with a thought.
>>706652307
What are you even talking about?
>>706652146
Also supposing he had Cortana with him it's two brains in one suit of armor
>>706652146
If you honestly think MC is faster than a Space Marine you are starting your argument on loose footing. Any Battle Brother could dance circles around a Spartan, even MC but they wouldn't need to. They'd simple grab him by the neck and toss him around the camp like a prison bitch.
>>706652409
Any of the games I've played with Space Marines they are slow as tits the only thing they can do is a quick little Dodge roll
>>706652384
Psykers.
You know the strongest part about most space marines.
>>706626749
Space Marines.
I know a bit more about chief than the Emperor's finest, but even then, SPARTANs don't stand a chance. Not even 1 on 1, chief get's ripped in half.
Plus, Bolters are fricken automatic rocket launchers, and they use those as standard issue.
>>706626749
I love Chief as much as the next bloke but come the fuck on. Space Marines are extremely fucking op. Marine hands down. He could probably take on a Ultramarine scout or some shit but that's it.
>>706637133
Custodes primarch is da emprah
![Librarian_Astartes[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/nSizgjR.jpg "Librarian_Astartes[1].png")
>>706652384
Librarians kill everything, and if it can't be killed it gets warped to an alternate dimension made of pure seething emotions.
>>706651553
50 cal roflol? that round is ancient... 40000 year old outdated tech.. try a bolter round
>>706652517
>basing your conclusion on the Relic games
>not reading the based lit
again you are stating on a fucked up footing
>>706652526
No. They start in locations unknown and very far to one another with just equipment. MC goes to nearest halo and activates.
Done.
>>706652538
117 is no ordinary spartan....
This is the dumbest fucking argument i have ever seen. A space marine has literally everything a spartan has but better. And the spartan doesn't have access to weapons that could even scratch a space marines armor. If the marine only had a bolt pistol and no armor then MAYBE mc would win.
>>706652685
Again. They feel his tiny physic presence from miles away and banishes him to the warp before he even knows they are there.
![latest[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/t7q9a7v.jpg "latest[1].jpg")
>>706652685
Exterminatus much?
>>706652672
I thought we were comparing them as they were presented in the games
>>706652517
When it comes to versus debates, written material is often considered best as it allows the authors to show what would actually happen. Games have to be balanced to make them difficult.
DOW has my Fire Warriors taking down chaplains and grey knights. In actual lore? Nah, I'd need a Cadre fully dedicated to fighting such foes...
>>706652771
I have no idea what game you are referring to.
But kill a reclaimer, the last one, and then you are done.
>>706652822
Ok then. In these games were the Space Marines enemies just as slow and ponderous?
>>706652827
Does everyone know that the Forerunners made everything in existence?
You still have yet to learn what he is capable of.
>>706652734
Agreed. He's a tough son of a bitch, but a Space Marine is tougher...
The only thing that I can think of that can reliably take on Space Marines is Samus Aran. Even Primarchs are just boss battles for her...
>>706652927
For the most part there were little Kamikaze dudes that would bum rush you but that was about it
>>706652975
DO you understand The Emperor Protects?
>>706652990
I mean, unless you wanna go into the Culture...
>>706652990
Not just engineered differently, but he has access to powers, technology, and some type of spiritual realm passed onto Reclaimers.
>>706653003
like the squiggoths and goblins? they're peanuts to space marines. and that game was really clunky for an FPS. source material space marines would be a blur to us watching it.
>>706652975
The ancient once are essentially a more condensed and more powerful version of the forerunners, and they are not even the most powerful force in the 40k universe.
>>706653109
You just described a weak ass Psyker. A Librarian would have him tossing demon salad before breakfast.
>>706653124
I will grant you that I have not read The Source material of Space Marines but I have read quite a bit of the Halo books and I really do think just based on their size that Master Chief would be faster something that big can only move so fast
>>706653353
Unless you're trying to tell me that physics and gravity don't work the same in their two universes
>>706653353
>http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Space_Marines
Go read up. Then read some of the novels. Finally excuse yourself for being so ignorant.
>>706653231
Don't know about the game
>>706653109
True. I'm a fan of both sides, but bar the Halos, 40k tech just packs a LOT more of a punch. Reading the books, I know in game damages are not an actual representation, but it still is just a different league.
I remember in a novel, Keys fired a plasma rifle and it melted the insurrectionist, but that's what a basic Bolter does in one shot, while Keys fired 2 or 3 to kill him (much more, but he was freaking out so I didn't include that).
>>706653473
You also have armor abilities. Cloak, they can't pick your signal up to warp.
>>706653471
Game or Canon, neither have MC coming out anything but a body bag. Least ways what they can find out him.
>>706653353
they are genetically altered to fight aliens, so ya they're super freaking fast. If you read the horus heresy stuff (kinda like warhammer 30k) theres some imperial guard troops that have genetic mods more like MC that the emperor was working on before he got the space marines right. They're like MC version 9001.
>>706653353
A Space Marine did manage to run across a room, tear a Guardsman's face off, and return to his original position. Guardsmen couldn't event tell he moved. Space Marines ARE faster. If I remember, Master Cheif's top speed is something like 60 MpH sprint.
>>706653628
Instantly, tho.
So its agrees. Space Marines win.
>>706653628
I think we need to decide what kind of Space Marines are taking on the master chief I understand that there are several different classes are we saying there's a few from every kind of Space Marine or is it a Standard Group?
>>706653628
like Zahariel with his time-stop psychic ability
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Zahariel_El%27Zurias
>>706653737
You need to go read up on the SMs. Because what you just said is fucking stupid.
>>706653628
Because if you're saying a few from every group that might prove beneficiary then we need to account for the fact that Master Chief is truly a unique individual a one-man Army
>>706653541
Cloaking is nothing new to Space Marines.
Pic related, it's the XV 25 Stealth Suit, it is equipped with Optical, Thermal, a slew of other stuff shielding, and a mute device. Can't hear 'em, or see em. It enjoys particular use in my Cadre as a vehicle killer, also good for taking out HVTs and anything else just out pulse rifle range.
But, it still can't hide from a Space Marine.
>>706653849
>>706653849
>>706653829
And just how is it stupid there are different classes of Space Marine they don't all have the same abilities there are ones of lower rank less experience
