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Any of you fags watch the vp debate?
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>>706621617
>>>/pol/
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>>706621617
yes, I watched white bread stomp sourdough. It was awesome and better than the actual presidential debate.
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Kain surprised me. I think he did a good job, aside from interupting so much.
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Yes, Kaine killed him, it's fucking over
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>>706621740
>>706621617
Why is /x/ do this?
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Pence obliterated Kaine
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I don't think it will change numbers much. Both did what they needed to do for their campaigns.
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>>706621827
lol what?
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>>706621825
>>>/x/

Click it
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>>706621878
He gets paid by the shitpost.
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>>706621767
He came over as a complete faggot, kinda like you!
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>>706621774
Kaine looked like a complete dipshit. BUT BUT BUT MUH SPANISH, MUH BLACK COMMUNITY.
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>>706622079
POWER THE TRUMP TRAIN!
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Kaine acted like a fucking annoying child. I couldn't hear a damn thing Pence said because of the constant interrupting.
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>>706622234
He was always a faggot.
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>>706621617
ya, that balding fag got BTFO
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>>706621617
PENCE ALL THE WAY Stomped tims ass. While being respectful of the female moderator.
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>mfw Pence wins
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>>706621617
Kaine looks like a pedo
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kaine kept interrupting...pence couldn't say anything good fast enough to stop interruptions
/thread
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>>706622446
This. He seemed like a total cunt, I was pleasantly surprised by Pence's performance.
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>>706622770
Well, there's that photo he had taken with a now convicted one, so...
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>>706621617
pence came across more professional and didnt interrupt his opponent every 10 seconds.
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>>706622779
Thanks for correcting the record and /threading your own post.
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What killed me was the moderator kept interrupting pence to let that faggot kaine talk over him. VA fag here, fuck kaine with a rake. Did nothing good for my state
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neither

Kaine was all over the place and his interuptions of Pence was not really what i was expecting.

Pence continued to prove he is completely ignorant fundie redneck nut-sucker. With only a little more common sense than Trump.

Kaine was less professional than i thought he would be.. Pence a little bit more.. but in the long run, Kaine was still way more professional then Pence and what came out of his mouth all actually made sense.

No winners
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>>706622770

>stating someone looks like something

you would know what a pedo looks since you are prob one too :)
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Man fuck Gary, trump, and hillary. Pence for president!
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>>706622995

Kaine gave out detailed plans about what Economic ideas look like, how to fix the police issue and racism, abortion as a right to choose, and still got clear points to hit Trump where he needed to

did you watch the same debate as all of us? what delusional faggot
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>>706622307
After Romney in 2012, Reince Preibus wrote a report that basically said unless the Republican party starts being inclusive to blacks, hispanics, and other minorities, and stop being giant racist fuckwits who expect to be easily elected solely on white male votes, they mathematically can't gain the presidency *ever* again. You can hardly blame Kaine for being inclusive, it's the only way to win according to the fucking current head of the RNC. You can criticise him all you want for paying lip service to minority communities, but he's just trying to represent the changing demographic of the country, which is literally what politicians are elected to do - represent their constituents regardless of their race.
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>>706623150
I really wish it was a Pence/Trump ticket, they fucked this up.
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>>706622995
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>>706623004
I disagree. He is not a Hillary voter. All rapists vote for Hillary.
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>>706621827
Truthfully, not much headway was made until the middle-end, as they both rehashed the same bullshit everyone already knew. However, Kaine made a turd sandwich with fries and a pickle out of himself by answering the moderator's questions with irrelevant slandering of Trump. I mean, what the fuck does Trump's tax returns have anything to do with police department relations with their communities?
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>>706622770
you misspelled jack nicholson
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Hillary pulled ahead in the pulls and Kaine totally freaked out and couldn't keep it together. He had no reason to be the way he was tonight... Unless he's afraid of Hillary retaliation.
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Pence raped him
CTR pls go.
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>>706623285

again, you are a pedo and you need to get help for that kind of thing please. Help America by not touching Americans
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>>706621767
You serious? He sounded like a smarmy 8th grader
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>>706622947
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one thing's for sure, they both fuckin hate putin
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>>706623722

>my state

did you do anything good for your state? prob not because you are stuck in your moms basement eating hot pockets and drinking mountain dew. fuck off faggot, he was elected by your so called state so live with it queerboy
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>>706623722
a Kek and dubs. Well done anon
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>>706623571
It's a fact. Rapists are Hillary voters. Hillary defended a rapist herself. It's a famous case. Hillary=rape. She did it in a court case, and she did it with her husband, who is a rapist, and she did it as a senator, standing up for the perpetrators.

See how casually you call random people a rapist? What ever ARE you? Yet there is evidence respecting Kaine and Hillary and Bill (Bill rode on the rape plane with his rape buddy to the rape island).
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>>706623933
>that projection
Ok faggot. When's the last time you even went to work, if ever?
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>>706623933
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TRUMP WINS AGAIN
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>>706623990

>call random people rapist

i said "pedo". You just showed how bad your reading comprehension is so i cant trust that you know anything. This conversation is over m8
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>>706623933
Live in Indiana pay a shit ton of taxes and own a lot of land Love my state and Pence made me proud tonight Pence kept schools from closing in Indiana. He knows stopping illegals and Syrians from entering Indiana keeps us safe. All Hillary and Tim wanna do is pass legislation that monitors everyone world wide and share everyones info with every other world agency Thats fucking stupid.
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>>706621617
Was interesting, and I think Pence pulled out the win.
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>>706624304
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>>706622727
Running out of steam shill?
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>>706624295
>Trump's NEET army once again mobilises to astroturf for him, for no monetary compensation

Trump is laughing that he managed to troll you guys into not only voting Republican but doing advertising for the Republicans for free, the party of the wealthy establishment whose entire reason for being in modern times is ensuring conditions that allowed the ultra-wealthy to acquire their wealth stay exactly as they are
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>>706622727
this

I'm not even going to sit here and act like I knew a damn thing about Pence before tonight, but he was very poised and was able to respond to every claim made by Kaine without getting frustrated or completely losing his shit.
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>>706623423
How? You're crazy
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Pence did such a great job i knew he would. I think he really drove home the fact that America needs to become strong again. Not a bunch of winy babies, that get their feelings hurt when they hear the truth. Obama and Hillary have made this country week. And let Russia and the whole world get out of hand.
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>>706624479
You're obviously a shill and don't own shit.
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>>706622770
Jimmy Fallon in 20 years
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>>706624911
In a secret video few have seen Hillary fainted on 911 this year. She faints all the time. She can't be president. She isn't healthy.
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Pence should be at the top of the Ticket. Trump should be off the Ticket .... Pence for President: 2017
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>>706624963
Dude stayed calm and collect, while Kaine was acting like a fucking annoying child, interrupting Pence every fucking second.
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>>706625169
>Secret video.
It's not a secret, and they had to drag her dead looking ass into the van and throw her in it.
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Jeanie, would you like to devour the Hillary campaign? She's all yours!
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>>706625169
Keep advertising buddy, I'm sure your god emperor will give you a 1$/hr job in a factory once jobs are imported back from China or Mexico, assuming you believe that's even going to happen, from the candidate who tells the truth 4% of the time
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>>706625377
HOW did you get ahold of the SECRET VIDEO?! ARE YOU THE RUSSIANS?
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>>706622947
Same thing happened with that pos Lester Holt last week. He also pressed Trump with bullshit racial questions and allowing ClintCunt unlimited amount of time to respond, i.e. pander to blacks.
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>>706625416
>Robert Mann
>Democrat
>poll showing Democrats mostly true, GOP mostly false.
>non-partisan bullshit poll, though
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>>706625087
I am far from wealthy but everything i have i own and I'm proud of what i have and the state I'm from. And I'm gonna be proud to have Pence as Vice President.
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>>706625711
Heaven forbid a presidential candidate acknowledge the existence of 15% of the country's population. Maybe it's advantageous to not piss off a 1/6 of the country who could potentially vote for you?
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>>706625822
Amen to that! IN fag here, Pence is probably one of the best things to happen to the state in a long time.
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>>706625048
THANK YOU

Fuck, how is hard more so many people to see that Hilary/Kaine are pandering to the emotions of crybabies in this country who want nothing but handouts and to accept absolute zero responsibility for their own actions. Their entire campaing is essentially "Trump is a meanie and hurts peoples feelings because he's white, rich, and successful. What a jerk!"
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Watching Pence tonight reminds me of how incompetent Trump is. Even Pence said something along those lines with a ton of sugar coating.
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Pence had the impossible task of trying to defend the indefensible ignorant Trump statements and could provide only the weakest of responses
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>>706626944
>>706626732
Did you just correct my record?
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>>706625974
No, the liberal media (overused term, but certainly true) wanted Holt to assist in painting Trump into a corner by bringing up radical statements he made prior to running for president. Hilary is a bonafied crook and has lied to this country over and over. Trump might be a complete asshole, but he hasn't wasted time slandering using the same tired info like the Clinton campaign keeps doing.
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>>706626732
Trump beat 18 other Republican candidates to get where he is now. What does that say about the party in general?
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>>706627065
And Hillary had to manipulate the entire dnc to finish off a 98 year old communist, what does that say about the party in general?
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>>706625416
>fact checking
>because fact checkers never lie
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Friendly reminder that the media loves to distort what Trump said.

Pence wrecked Kaine, though. I'd give the first debate to Hillary just for being able to keep her composure for the most part, but Kaine was a blustering idiot this one.
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>>706627052
>bringing up radical statements he made prior to running for president
How are these not relevant? Does he not believe them anymore? How long is it valid to bring up a past Trump opinion? A year? A month? A day?
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>>706624911
8th Grade SJW detected. It''s past your bed time.
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>>706627276
Nah, Hillary lost the first debate. The first debate was to establish if a woman could stand on her own. They can't. They need a man to save them.
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>>706627065
>>706627257
It says both parties are pretty, pretty shitty.
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>>706627396
No it doesn't. Trump will MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!!
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>>706627396
That's something we both agree on.
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>>706623336
Funding the government that's what he is getting at
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Before tonight i really did not know much about either vice presidential candidate. Walking away from it i have a great deal of respect for the way pence carried himself. Kain came off as a child and would not allow pence to get anything out. It was frustrating because i felt as if pence really was speaking to questions i wanted answers to and not bullshiting around. I would the debate win to mr pence. Kain was acting like a total cunt and that smirk was an insult to everyone watching wanting answers.
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>>706626732
Are you referring to when Pence stated, "He's not a career politician like you [Kaine] and Secretary Clinton" ?

He was implying that Trump has made his living as a businessman and not through pandering to crybaby demographics and lying to the public.
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>>706627490
It's a lazy position. Like saying iPhone and Android sucks, but offering no alternative. It just means "I'm too good for everyone else*"
*but have not myself done better
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>>706627065
Trump benefited from the 18 Candidates. Kasich, Rubio, Jeb, Christie, ... split the establishment vote. Cruz, Carson, Huckabee, ... split the Christian vote. Trump had his group all to himself.
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>>706627458
The all caps and exclamation points make it true.
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>>706627347
Are you mad that you're being manipulated into doing the bidding of old 1%er white dudes who wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire? Why waste money hiring an advertising firm to astroturf when unemployed NEETs will do it for free?
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>>706621617
Kaine is nothing but a lap dog.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1NhtqEHirs

ps. Check'em
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>>706627383
Both of them performed incredibly poorly tbh.

Hillary was hitting Trump with the most meaningless bullshit (stop and frisk is constitutional, terry vs Ohio, not to even mention shit like Rosie O'Donnell), but Trump swallowed the bait hard. If he'd stuck to hammering her on points that mattered he would've demolished her.

Hillary took advantage of some stupid statements Trump made and played the crowd while maintaining composure, that gave her the victory in my mind anyway. Also, holt was obviously biased.

But yeah, no question Pence annihilated Kaine here.
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>>706627581
How is the truth a lazy position? The two main parties and candidates are both terrible.
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>>706627568
They're stupid little cunts. Stupid as hell, man. They ain't got shit. Who the fuck names a folder "Pay to Play"? Stupid shits. STUPID!

>>706627603
#MAGA
#MMGAA MAKE MEXICO GREAT AGAIN ALSO
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>>706627618
I remember when I had such a surface level understanding of the Right-wing, I think I was about 14 as well.
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>>706627744
Because it's like a big baby wah I hate everything, where's my goddamn caviar?! wah
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>>706622109
There arent many CTR Trump fucks out there Mostly clinton ones on Reddit Twitter and a few on here.
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>>706627327
Be specific, which of his statements are you referring to? And why are they relevant to the issue of this election?
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pence definitely won. kaine played the classic fantasy land democratic pussy card.
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>>706627838
It's the only thing Hillary shills know how to do when busted being a crook or a sham or whatever: 1. No she doesn't! and then 2. But the other guy does!

They did that with Hillary's outrageously favorable coverage. They've complained that it was biased in favor of Trump hahahahahahaah a bunch of fucking idiots!
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>>706627771
The right-wing is primarily funded by people with astronomical wealth like Sheldon Adelson, Walton family, etc. These people aren't on your 'side', they're probably pissing themselves that you think voting Republican will benefit you in any way. The fact that you're defending them online is hilarious. You're like a serf in a field defending your king.
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>>706627827
You're the one sounding like the baby right now, tbh.
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>>706625048
Yea because a Republican would do such a better job. Give me a break. We also have a majority Republican Congress, and they control if we go to war or not.
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>>706627581
My iPhone hasn't gotten people killed in Benghazi and lied about it, and my android doesn't want to build a tall on the Mexican border.
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>>706628063
Sounding like or being one? You're being one. You Millennials win on tone, but you lost on substance and capability. Incompetent, and broken. But kinda pretty. In a sad way.
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>>706628037
Look at Trump's campaign fund. He does not have a single Super PAC endorsing him, and funds his campaign by himself and through small donations.

Do I even need to talk about Clinton's campaign funds?

Maybe the people you mentioned funded Bush or someone in the past, but the beauty of Trump is he's rich enough that he doesn't need wealthy donors to prop him up.
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>>706627884
His statement about climate change being a conspiracy to separate Americans from jobs is truly 10/10 insanity, and yet apparently Hilary mentioning it is out-of-bounds, unfair, an old remark that he doesn't believe anymore, any number of thin rationalisations to downplay the significance of making such a certifiably batshit comment, and the implications that might have for the decision making capacity of the potential future leader of the free world.
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>>706627618
I was a democrat until I got my first job and saw the taxes I had to pay to fund social programs. Then I saw people on welfare buy lobster wish cash and all other groceries with WIC
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>>706628248
That's not how analogies work, Millinialtard.
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>>706627523
Do you honestly think any presidential candidate over the last 40 years has had their own philosophy on how to budget this country's government that was fully implemented during their time in office? Every president-elect has a team of advisers and an administration whom essentially handle that part of the job. These figureheads, the past presidents, are people with law and speech degrees, no accounting or finance degrees.
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>>706628264
Donald Trump has super PACs bro.
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>>706628397
That's exactly how they work, toddler.
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>>706628337
He's been in record saying it was a joke.

The fact that Clinton supporters use this as one of their hardest points against Trump is seriously telling. You can name any number of scandals Clinton was a part of in her career, but an old joke is all you can pull on Trump.
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>>706628425
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>>706628264
He's still part of the Republican party. He's subject to their rules. A president is not a dictator. As Obama has illustrated by the obstructionist Republican senate and congress, a president doesn't even have that much power. All of Trump's platform depends on cooperation from a party that views him as somewhere between an annoyance and a malignant tumour. The idea that any of his platform can realistically be accomplished is ridiculous. He's the Sanders of the Republican party.
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>>706628259
Thanks for the broad generalization about a generation I don't even belong to.
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>>706628398
What? You sure that you are responding to the right person?
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>>706628425
Lol whoops you right, but you know what I mean. No special interest Super PACS.
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>>706628037
>The right-wing is primarily funded by people with astronomical wealth

See: George Soros. Waltons are leftists, now; old generation died. See also: Hollywood, Wall Street (who donated overwhelmingly to Obama and Clinton), Warren Buffet, and so on.

You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

And pro-tip: serfs are what leftists want us all to be. Heavily taxed or living off handouts. Heavily regulated. Disarmed. Unable to say what you please ("HATE SPEECH!1!"). Unable to worship freely. Slaves to the state.

You WANT to be owned by the state because it frees you from the obligation to think for, care for, or defend yourself. It's institutionalized adolescence, for overgrown children and the power-mad who get a sexual thrill from exercising power over others.

All I want is for the government to leave me the fuck alone. And for this, idiots like you insult me, degrade my ideas, and pretend you're superior men; superior, hollow-chested cowardly men eager to hand off more and more power over your own lives to a faceless, uncaring state.

Get a mirror.
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>>706628556
Quiet, faggot.
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>>706627383
this

All she did was laugh and use "sassy" comebacks to any remark made by Trump.
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>>706628259
Nice broad overgeneralization of millennials. Care to talk about Regans Iran Contra scandal with me? Or how Jimmy Carter was really the one who negotiated the release of the Iran embassy hostages at the last minute but Regan essentially got credit for it? Fuck off.
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>>706628499
>Trump makes a sequence of tweets spanning years that makes Sarah Palin look well-balanced and credible
>Public predictably reacts badly
>"It's just a joke, why are you getting all heated? I was just kidding!"

It's like the quintessential case of Schrodinger's Douchebag. Make a shitty statement, someone holds your feet to the fire over it, "it's just a prank bro, there's the camera, relax!"

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Schrodinger%27s%20Douchebag
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>>706628907
Ahaha, get rekt Trumpet. Back to your safe space now before you get triggered
>>>/pol/
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Truth is being rewritten in this and many other posts on the internet by sock puppets and paid posters.

Pence didn't nail it by any means. Kaine did interrupt, annoyingly, but most of the time after Pence's time was up or when Pence outright lied.

Pence attempted an inversion trick where he said 10% of the Clinton foundation money went to charity. Of course Kaine jumped in and said it was the other way around, 90%.

Pence did catch Kaine in a lie, too. Once. The moderator did skip Pence once, and she should apologize for it.

Pence never really addressed the damning Trump quotes head-on.

All in all, no moderator questions were really answered. It was a shitshow.
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>>706628556
Thats a new point against Trump I've never seen, but I view it as an endearing quality of him. The fact that Trump is so far from the establishment is the primary reason I'm voting for him.

I mean this is all prediction on both of our parts here so it's meaningless, but I find it hard to believe that nothing would get done in a Trump presidency, especially with Pence at his side.
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>>706627696
This.

Pence kept his composure and did a good job of mopping up after Trump's shit. Kaine gave off the impression of being a nervous, agitated, meme-spewing robot. I doubt he expected Pence to perform so well.

Of course, this debate won't have nearly the swaying power that the next two Presidential debates will - which, in all likelihood, will consist of Trump falling flat on his face on both occasions. He's a shitty debater, especially compared to Clinton.
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>>706628816
>All I want is for the government to leave me the fuck alone.
Why don't you want a government that works on your behalf to help you achieve even greater success?
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>>706628722
He's got super PACs working to get him elected. It's against the law for a candidate to coordinate or work with a super PAC and even Clinton wouldn't do that.
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>>706628991
Wow, an urban dictionary definition brought into a political discussion.

So a sense of humour is now your biggest point against Trump? Or is it the public's tendency for hysteria?
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>>706628556
It doesn't matter. Hillary faints frequently. She can't handle the nuclear football. Basically it's a giant cellphone designed in the cold war. Its contents are secret. At essence, if he believes there to be a nuclear threat incoming, the president uses it to retaliate - from anywhere in the world.
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>>706629036
I don't know anything about politics, I'm just here to call people faggots.
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>>706629114
The entire senior Republican leadership hates him. Paul Ryan comes out weekly apologising for him and asking him to explain himself. Reince Preibus hates him but is putting on a strong facade. Mitch McConnell says the senate will never cooperate with him. His only high-level party support is the House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy. It's a catastrophe waiting to happen.
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Pence won by far. Kaine came across as smug and condescending. Pence could probably beat Hillary Clinton in this election to be president. Trump picked a really, really good running mate here. I'm very impressed and feel much better about my decision to vote for Trump which I had already made before this debate. But it feels like a stronger decision now, more confident.
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>>706628983
>Or how Jimmy Carter was really the one who negotiated the release of the Iran embassy hostages at the last minute but Regan essentially got credit for it?

That's a complete fucking lie. The Iranians *specifically* refused to negotiate with Carter. They released the hostages on the day he left office for two reasons: 1) 'Fuck You' to Carter, and 2) Reagan might have had the balls to fight.

Read "Guests of the Ayatollah."

Just because you think you know a couple of factoids from the 80s doesn't mean you actually know shit.

Typical Millennial arrogance.
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>>706628581
You're a Millennial. :-) You're also a pathological liar, but not so skilled at it as to keep your job, that kind of thing.
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>>706629133
I'm honestly surprised Clinton performed so poorly the first debate. Everyone hyped her up as this ruthless politician, and then we got "well gee I hope the fact checkers are listening!!".

I'm expecting very little from both if them now.
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>>706623194
And you are already sucking Hilary's feminine penis so you can't be objective>>706623203
. Kaine behaved poorly and nothing out of his mouth was new. I hate Trump but, values aside, he chose the better running mate
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>>706628983
Speaking of Iran Contra, what was Hillary's involvement in the gun-running scandal (sending full-auto guns to Mexican drug lords), and the Iranian cash-in-planes bribery-for-prisoners scheme?
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>>706629555
Trips confirm kaine looks like a pedo
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>>706629083
It sounds to me like you went into it with a confirmation bias towards Kaine or should I say, Clinton. You probably don't give a rat's ass about Kaine himself.
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>>706628983
>Thinks he knows the 80's
>was born in the 2000's
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>>706629036
:^) /b/ is the new /pol/
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>>706625369
being calm wins debates?
Fuck his illogical backwoods views DID YOU SEE HOW CALM HE WAS
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>>706629287
The point is, it was only a joke once it backfired, ie. it was never actually a joke until it had serious consequences that his opposition could use to attack him. You're being an apologist for a dude that clearly wasn't joking until his campaign advisers told him 'what the fuck have you done, say it was a joke and we'll try and limit the damage of these stupid tweets'. There's a reason Trump has gone through campaign managers like toilet paper. He's a loose cannon, shoots from the hip and leaves it to his staff the clean up the mess. The best they could come up with this time is 'it's just a joke!'.
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>>706629408
That is why a perjury trap will be set by the congressional leaders (Republican and Democrat) to get Trump to testify before congress. They know he can't help lying to protect his ego when challenged ... then he will be impeached or forced to resign. Pence for President 2017
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>>706629636
We should all listen because kaine will inevitably take over when Hillary keels over and we have a pedo for president
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>>706629133
>muh neither side
>muh millennial spoiled brat
>muh GIMME MUH TENDIES tards
Shut up and eat your goddamn hamburger. It's fine.
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>>706629512
She doesn't really need to do much, tbh. Unless Trump suddenly absorbs Pence's smooth eloquence, all Clinton needs to do is stand smugly while Trump trips over his own feet.
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>>706629417
Don't quite your day job. You're only a mediocre troll. Better than most here, I'll give you that.
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>>706629867
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>>706624479
Inbred farm boy alert
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>>706629937
Hawt, where can I find one of those?
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Official Politics Server!
RRAAIIIIDDDDDDD
https://discord.gg/kbYKsEB

>lel-chan
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>>706629781
>whatever my guy does is the standard
>not having standards that last more than a few minutes
>being that literal faggot Democrat assblown-out
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>>706629784
>>706627276

Look at that picture. That is why I no longer give a shit what anyone in the media says.

This whole debate on whether or not it was a joke is so inconsequential, whether or not it was his stance has obviously changed now, so why can't we focus on ACTUAL IMPORTANT SHIT?
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>>706629937
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>>706629937
Oh yeah, it worked in the first debate, I guess I just had higher expectations from a career politician.
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>>706630047
You have to go back.

BUILD THE WALL! BUILD THE WALL! #MAGA
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>>706629413
Regan was actually the arrogant one. He proclaimed "It isn't so much that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so" when the reality is that his shit stunk just like everyone else. His economic policies failed, and even the architect of his trickle down economic policy admitted that it doesn't work. He sold weapons to Iran which was in violation of rules passed by congress, he fucked around with central and south america leading to many deaths and power vacuums.
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>>706630047
Hey you got any kids you need watched? I have tomorrow off.
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>>706630094
His stance hasn't changed. He still has no environmental policy to speak of. Florida will be underwater in 50 years and Trump's answer is basically 'who gives a fuck, I'll be dead by then'. He's just not talking about it being a Chinese conspiracy anymore. Doesn't that irk you somewhat?
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>>706629636
Same poster. No.
I was trying to actually see a coherent argument from Kaine. I HATE Clinton's voice and smugness.

The only solutions I saw offered by Pence was beefing up law enforcement, puffing up big and bad to scare other world leaders, maybe increasing the size of the navy (???), and no real denial that the tax cuts were going to be mainly for the wealthy and that was somehow going to grow the economy.
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>>706630094
Well, first of all, it's important to ban Muslims from America. Second of all, it's important to kill all the homosexuals (with capital punishment, courts, etc). Thirdly, the dollar must move to the gold standard.
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>>706629784
...it was never brought up in the public eye for specific criticism until he became a political figure. Your objection is garbage.

But if old statements are gospel, please see Clinton's opposition to Mexican immigration, opposition to gay marriage, enthusiastic support for the Iraq War, TPP, etc.

Aside from all her regular, run of the mill lies, like being sniped at in Bosnia, or being named after Sir Edmund Hillary, or being turned away from the Marines because they didn't take girls (even though they took girls as far back as 1918). She's lied about her fucking NAME. Her NAME.

Who does that?
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>>706630300
How's your son doing? Boy I bet he's growing up fast I'll tell you what.
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>>706630354
Well to be fair it's kind of hard to get into the meat of an issue when you have a smug douchebag interrupting you every other minute...
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>>706630473
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>>706630352
His former campaign manager said recently that he'd rather be underwater in New York city than be under the threat of homegrown terror.
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>>706630404
Why are we even discussing it? Hillary fainted, it's over, it's stupid to talk about it anymore. She's miss coughing and fainting. Can't be president. Better luck in 8 years.
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>>706629905
Are you okay there, bud? I can see where the "neither side" bit comes from, but nothing else makes any sense.
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>>706630378
Is your son of the Muslim persuasion? Boy I do like me some brown meat.
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>>706630629
That's a fallacy. It's called "personal credulity." And you're a faggot. God hates the faggots. Particularly Nut. Nut really hates faggots.
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>>706621617
Kaine acted like a sassy faggot and kept getting mad, and Pence looks like Dr.Deathshead who kept smdh too much
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>>706630529
You know you can do both? Have an environmental policy which is better than 'insert policy here when done lmao', and fight terrorism at the same time? That's a false choice.

And lol at a former campaign manager defending Trump? How come they left mid-campaign again?
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>>706630486
>meat of an issue
>smug douchebag
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>>706630486
WRONG
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>>706630352
Probably my least favourite meme of this cycle. "Trump has no positions".

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/policies/energy/
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>>706630789
We can do both. That's kind of what the Democratic ticket wants to do.
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>>706622770
He looks like one of the Keebler elves grew up addicted to actual cuckold porn.
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>>706630830
How is your son doing these days?
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>>706630789
>Hillary faints often
>Hillary wears freaky sunglasses
>Hillary hacks and coughs all the time
>Hillary spits up stuff
>Hillary faints often
>Hillary faints often
>Hillary faints often
What kind of cuckold world is this? Time to BTFO the hacking falling dumbass. WE HAVE STANDARDS!!!
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>>706630962
Sure do grow up fast, don't they?
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>>706631099
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>>706631010
Go ahead and beat her up and/or kill her bro. It's the only way you people will ever be happy.
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>>706621617
Pence beat the shit out of Kaine. Every poll agrees. Hillary Clinton has an organization called Correct The Record, they are literally paid to sit here on /b/ shilling for Hillary.
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>>706631211
How many lives do you think Clinton intentionally or unintentionally ended? I can think of at the VERY least, 4.
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>>706630885
Literally has a climate change denier as his Secretary for Energy. We're passed the guaranteed 2 degree temperature increase threshold, Florida is likely to be underwater in 50-100yrs, and Trump has a dude he disbelieves climate change even exists in charge of energy. You can't make this shit up.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/trumps-energy-and-environment-team-leans-heavily-on-industry-lobbyists/2016/09/29/6eb7a2a6-84ec-11e6-ac72-a29979381495_story.html
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>>706631211
Don't worry Hillary I'll be there to watch over chelseas taut, preteen boys.
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>>706631144
>>706630962
>>706630715
>>706630528

We get it anon, he looks creepy. You can stop any time now.

Pence crushed this debate though.
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>>706626510
Despite being white rich and succesful themselves winning their elections from the very minorities they love to keep beneath them and happy about their place in life just by not stating the obvious
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You whipped out that Mexican thing again
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>>706630213
I think it's just a matter of not exerting any more effort than she needs to. Her current plan is stable and very likely to work. Veering from that path could lead to her accidentally giving Trump more ammunition against her, should she make any mistakes.
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Hillary Clinton literally has paid shills from Correct The Record (you can verify this) sit here and talk shit on 4chan -- because nobody else will. Nobody will defend Hillary except these paid shills and those that have been brainwashed by the shilling.
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>>706631341
She's killed over 9000 people.
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>>706631504
>You whipped out that Mexican thing again
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There is an organization called "Correct The Record" which consists of people that are paid hourly to sit here on 4chan and lie about how awesome Hillary is and how racist/stupid/shitty Trump is (despite the facts).
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>>706630300
Uh, he was right. As I JUST demonstrated.

>his economic policies failed

Oh, so the 'everyone is getting rich and doing cocaine' optimistic vibe of the mid and late 80s was just a collective delusion? The incredible recovery from the Carter-era "malaise" was what, an accident? How do you explain the 5%+ GDP during his presidency? Obama would sacrifice a baby on television for that.

>he fucked around in...

There was this little thing going on called the Cold War. Communist powers were supplying weapons, money, propaganda, and operatives into our sphere of influence and into American allies specifically to undermine our power and kill our friends.

But it's all just "Reagan fucked around, hurr durr."

Stupid fucking children, man. You need to shut your fucking mouths and learn something. You twats think that because you live in the era of Wikipedia you instantly know everything. 'Oh, look, someone on the Internet says what I want to hear, I must be right.'

And this one is especially funny.

>he sold weapons to Iran

Obama just told the chief sponsor of terrorism in the world that they can become a nuclear power, AND paid them billions of dollars to do it, AND ruined the sanctions regime that was on track to bring down their brutal theocracy, AND got nothing for it. Absolutely fucking nothing. Except to wreck the balance of power in the Middle East and convincing the Saudis and Egyptians to become nuclear powers themselves.

After using the IRS to oppress his political opponents, scuttling a national security investigation of his political ally, giving assault weaponry (that he doesn't want available to citizens) to drug cartels, and lying about key features of his abortion of a health reform act dozens of times, and so on.

But you want to pretend to get your panties in a twist over a revenue neutral covert operation that fed both into the Iran-Iraq dual containment policy and fought communist guerillas in our backyard?

Piss off back to a playground.
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>>706631658
>you can verify this
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>>706631658
She's spewing phlegm on your dick anon!
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>>706631821
It's whipped out now
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>>706631804
She's killed over 90,000 people.

See what I did there. I corrected the record.
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>>706631887
google.com
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>>706631882
Weren't you supposed to go to bed 4 hours ago grandpa?
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>>706631887
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-clinton-digital-trolling-20160506-snap-htmlstory.html
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we're going to be killing democrats in the streets when the shit hits the fan.

the only leak we will need is a list of democrat voters
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>>706631368
So the article you gave me actually just outlined Trumps staff and what they do, the article in this "climate change denier" was linked in the article.

And this staffers "climate change denial" was that the current situation is well within the natural variability of the planet. People were worried about temperatures dropping in the 70's or 80's.
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>>706632299
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>>706631878
What about the other organization that gets paid per post saying something positive about Trump? (despite the facts)
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>>706632168
that's too pathetic for words
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>>706632530
There isnt one. That is probably the stadiums full of people that are at every Trump rally, which is about every day. A stadium full, in a new state, a new city, every day.
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>>706632462
Yes climate change has been discussed for several decades now. Definitely not a new matter. Didn't we band CFCs in 1978?
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>>706632530
Prove it exists. Maybe I can sign up.
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>>706632713
This is false.
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PENCE WON
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>>706632495
BEANER
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>>706632462
>And this staffers "climate change denial" was that the current situation is well within the natural variability of the planet

Mike Catanzaro's background is as a paid lobbyist for the fossil fuel industry. His opinion that climate change is natural variability is at odds with all current research, and is adopted because it suits the people that pay his bills, not because he has any qualifications or expertise to make a judgement like that.

The fact that a lobbyist is being invited to be the head of energy policy is an embarrassment and totally at odds with the idea the Trump is anti-establishment. You cannot get more pro-establishment than hiring party-approved industry lobbyists to be part of your cabinet.
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>>706632803
Trump fills a stadium full of people every day in a new state and a new city. Hillary cant fill a high school gym.
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>>706631519
They are in basically a dead heat now, and all the polls showed Trump winning.

Why would she restrain herself?
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>>706632713
I just realized that Donald Trump is a white Don King.
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>>706632978
Nice pet weasel you have there.
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in a new city, every day
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>>706621617
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>>706633024
Guess that's the reason Don King is in Trump's posse, or is it the other way around?
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>>706625048
>>706626510
the two of you are completely deluded by media stereotypes... please vote for a valid platform rather than a stage personality. just how exactly would a president "fix" the attitude of a nation supposedly "weak"? is there a bill for that?
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Not an American, can't find any non-biased answers online. Answer me this /b/:

Who is winning? Does Trump actually stand any chance of winning at all or is it a pipedream?
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>>706632936
http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/8/2/024024;jsessionid=EC8A9AAD5E398C12F6D9F5C98DB3C5AB.c2.iopscience.cld.iop.org

You're incorrect in saying "all research supports this", you would be more correct in saying "some scientists agree with this. But science is t about agreeing, it's about facts.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/20/former-nasa-scientist-dispels-notion-global-warming-is-settled-science/

And it's still a theory.

As for the lobbyists, he's putting people with aligned interests on his staff. Is that unheard of? Anything else is pure speculation, as there is no indication Trump will bend over backwards to accommodate for them.
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>>706632936
>His opinion that climate change is natural variability is at odds with all current research

LOL

All "current research" is trying to figure out why the AGW alarmists were so catastrophically wrong. You know, seeing as how they predicted that the ice caps would melt 16 years ago, that snow would be merely a memory 12 years ago, and that super hurricanes would destroy Florida 10 years ago.
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>>706633417
"Hilary/Kaine are pandering to the emotions of crybabies in this country who want nothing but handouts and to accept absolute zero responsibility for their own actions"

thats a pretty good description of SJW's like you
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>>706631211
>playing the victim
>but she faints often, and nobody did it to her
>she faints often
>she faints often
>often
>fumbles the nuclear football
>fumbles

>>706631377
Lulz
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>>706628816
spoken like a true delusional voluntarist that has had his entire mantra fed to him via infowars. when you understand how society works, you're welcome back. in the mean time, stop trying to get out of taxes if you're going to drive on our fucking roads and call the fire dept when your shitty diy projects catch the house on fire.
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>>706633445
He has a chance unfortunately, but Hillary has a much better path to victory atm.
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>>706633399
Checked.

Also, the Democrats are probably wishing for a return to the days when they could outright legally own a black without the unnecessary complexity of a welfare system. Hell, I'm still convinced that Obama is only president because he's half white.
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>>706632998
Could you link me to a good poll? I haven't had the chance to go hunt one down myself. The problem with many of them (especially the run-of-the-mill internet polls) is that they're often hijacked by /pol/. I'm not convinced that Clinton's side isn't doing the opposite on her behalf.

Anyways, Clinton certainly didn't lose a significant number of supporters after the first debate. Her supporters lapped it up. I watched the event at a huge party of mostly Clinton supporters, and they all creamed their pants every time she ran sassy_remark.exe.
And Trump did so poorly that I doubt his performance managed to swing and undecideds in his favor.
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>>706633628
>And it's still a theory

Confirmed moron
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>>706633757
Just take her out already please. All you faggots do is bitch and moan. You guys can never be happy unless you get 100%.
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>>706633819
Lol fuck off, I'm not that anon but that is such a stupid argument.

People work for what they earn, but the government has the right to tax them. How much, and what for, is the essential question of taxation.

Sure, regulated roads are great, privately constructed roads would most likely need tolls.

However dismissing the argument for competition over regulation as "grow up and pay taxes" makes you sound like the dumb one, not him.
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>>706633445
http://graphics.latimes.com/usc-presidential-poll-dashboard/

if it was based on the amount of people that support him actively, he already won
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>>706633932
rip :^(
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>>706634095
>doesn't read sources
>blindly slurps up whatever mainstream opinion is

K bud.
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>>706634167
If you live back east you deal with toll roads. Toll roads are fucking stupid.
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>>706633819
lol a hillary supporter pretending someone is brainwashed by a mantra fed by media.

thats rich..

why are you supporting the pro-war, wall street candidate ?
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>>706634240
maybe you should kill yourself
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>>706622337
>THE TRUMP TRAIN!
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You know why we need to focus more on green energy? Because Los Angeles used to be a fucking hell hole where you couldn't even see the sky because of pollution. Once stricter regulations happened the pollution is much better now than it used to be.
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>>706623423
>CTR pls go.
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>>706633445
Not a chance if Trump continues performing the way he did in the first debate

Who would have thought alienating everyone except white males would have consequences?
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>>706634197
nope
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>>706634002
I mean this is one I just googled, it was either the nypost or Washington post that had one with a million people voted, and had Trump as the victor, I'll try and find that.

But yeah I find it hard to believe that either side could rig a poll like that with 7000 in the difference. If Clinton is holding back, this is the wrong time to do it.
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>betting odds
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faggot
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>>706633628
>sites a news article
>"And it's still a theory"

You scientifically illiterate cuck.
Read the actual scientific literature if you want to make an informed descision, not some shit you read in a news article.

Oh, and Gravity is also "still a theory", so you can fuck off with that bullshit.
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Hillary's connections to the KKK worry me, im not voting.
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>>706634797
*sigh* la times. It's an experimental poll. We don't know if it's accurately reflecting the actual vote.
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>>706634197
PROOF THAT TRUMP IS A KNOWN NIGGER LOVER, IM VOTING HILLARY, FUCK THE NIGGERS
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>>706634832
Betting odds are usually pretty good indicators, because people have a strong incentive to bet correctly (their money), and betting agencies have a strong incentive to set the odds correctly (also their money)
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WHITE POWER
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>>706634290
>assumes I didn't read sources
>assumes my understanding comes from the media
>thinks this proves anything

K bud.
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>>706634991
that guy was in the KKK in the 1940's. he left in the 1950's and renounced them for the rest of his career.

also the pic in robes is a shoop.
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>>706634991
Dude, she doesn't have anything to do with supporting the KKK. FFS it's historically knkwn she met Dr Martin Luther King Jr.
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>>706634905
Sorry you're right, you obviously know much more than this former NASA scientist, my apologies.

I can tell because you didn't link any sources yourself, and only focused on the news article, ignoring the other source I have.

Fuck off faggot.
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>>706635242
clearly photoshopped

this is how much the democrats lie
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>>706635179
>reads sources
>doesn't contribute anything to the discussion

That's worse. Why are you even here?
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>>706634395
>hillary supporter
jumping to conclusions as usual

>>706634167
incorrect. i was dismissing him on the grounds that he's greatly exaggerating the interest of the left in order to portray it in some tin foil hat conspiracy. ie, suddenly gun control is a government plot instead of dealing with a current and valid issue
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>>706635007
The image you're responding to is FiveThirtyEight's aggregate map, not LA Times. FiveThirtyEight aggregates all polls from all sources, and weights them by their previous accuracy at predicting actual outcomes. It's based on Nate Silver's model from 2012 that predicted the outcome of all 50 states correctly.
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>>706635242
democrats are delusional
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>>706635381
Im here to point out that your "still a theory" comment is retarded
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Itt /pol/ not knowing how to staying /pol/ ... again... for th 12849615th time where are the mods, we have an entire board for this dribble, can we please go back to trap porn
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>>706634197
Interesting, thanks anon. I'm a little surprised, though not much.

Of course, the election isn't based on how many people support him now. It'll be determined by who comes off as least-scathed by November, after the next two debates.

>>706634823
That seems strangely extreme. If the polls showed him coming in somewhere between 50-55%, I'd believe it. 66% is a bit ridiculous though. And yeah, /pol/ is definitely capable of rigging with polls to that degree. Right after the debate, I was lurking in a thread in which they raised Trump's position in a Time poll an entire 10% in about 15 minutes.
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>>706621767
>Kain surprised me. I think he did a good job, aside from interupting so much.

... and lying, misrepresenting or shitting canned comments 99% of the time
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>>706635150
What the fuck
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>>706635497
Oh boy here we go again. What do you think you guys are called when we hear Pence denying shit Trump actually said? That you guys are rational?
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Y'all got any kids? Boy I sure like kids.
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>>706635500
Do you even understand how an argument works? Or are you just so smug and condescending you can't be bothered to even talk about the sources because you know you're always correct? I'm fuckin done with you lol
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>>706635497
that photo is obviously shooped. Nice try trumpfag
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>>706622307
did you watch? didn't speak spanish that i saw, and i even had a 3.5 sentence over/under on that
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>>706635724
Especially those rowdy boys.
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>>706635259
this is some inception tier Hilary shilling...
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>>706635830
I teach them rowdy boys to wrestle in my basement
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>>706624304
>i said "pedo".

Yeah, but you meant "moral degenerate". Where do you think you are?
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Im a libertarian but I've noticed that the left is toxic, they make shit up, they lie like its nothing and im convinced half of them believe their own propaganda. Trump supporters are usually pretty well informed, they pay attention, they read sources, they know whats going on. Also, most of them are libertarian-minded. Hillary supporters are so dumb its cringe-worthy.

I'm voting Gary Johnson to support a third party.
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>>706635533
If it makes you feel any better, /pol/ is also filled with trap porn.
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>>706635924
Im the Coach in the basement
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