people are so stupid; why do people, if they dont know how something works, assume its evil and bad for you. I know a guy who has absolutely no idea how a microwave works, yet insists it causes cancer. Many of my peers dont know what GMO stands for, but they know its bad for you, and Monsanto is related to Lucifer. Fucking all of america thinks nuclear energy is a horrible idea, but it can solve alot of our problems. ITT why are people so fucking stupid?
>>706582186
>alot
* a lot
>>706582450
thx
>>706582186
> blames america
> to retarded to know europe is banning gmos.
What 3rd world country did you come from
>>706582948
GMO's are one of the best things to come into invention. You want to grow three ears of corn, using less water, no pesticides, and it can grow in fucking winter? This is the solution to all our problems, and people are scared because they dont understand it.
>>706582186
Theres a lot of hype behind gmos but in the end its not anymore effcient than organics. So why introduce cell mutations which is cancer into the mix and especially in a seed bank. Microwaves do relese radiation. Not as much as they use to but still. So the rise of cancer rates has to have some correlation to food or technology. Im not sure why you would leave out cell phones killing sperm or introducing radiation
>>706583816
you also have to think about the detection of cancer. only in the past 50 years have we had the technology. cancer rates may be the same in humans across time. and microwaves are radiation; light is radiation, color is radiation. Microwaves are radiation, but cause no harm if kept in the box it was designed for.
>>706582186
nuclear waste cannot be properly disposed of. your other points were solid though.
>>706582186
Because Jews.
It is always the Jews.
>>706583816
>>706584401
>flat earthers
>>706583501
I agree with this statement, what i do belive however is that the secrecy of the companies themselves (in trying to protect their IP on the seeds they use) does them no service. more studies need to be done by NON BIASED SOURCES i.e. not the companies themselves or the far left hippie retards. that i think would go a long way to win over the public
>>706582186
I'm with you but Monsanto is shit
Watch the vice episode about them
>>706582186
>Fucking all of america thinks nuclear energy is a horrible idea, but it can solve alot of our problems.
...as long as you can figure out how to dispose of the nuclear waste:
>A vast salt mine under the New Mexico desert was the Department of Energy’s last nuclear waste storage solution. On Valentines night, one of the now suspect 500 waste drums from DOE’s Los Alamos National Laboratory (LANL) blast open inside DOE’s Waste Isolation Pilot Plant (WIPP). Casks filled with 3.2 million cubic feet of deadly radioactive wastes remain buried at the crippled plant. That huge facility was rendered useless. Investigators believe the waste drums from Los Alamos were incorrectly packed under DOE supervision and one of them exploded.
>https://dcbureau.org/201406059835/natural-resources-news-service/breaking-bad-nuclear-waste-disaster.html
People are fuck-ups. Nuclear radiation magnifies the impact of those fuck-ups to a grand scale.
>>706582186
This is literally one of the most basic human instincts. Fear of the unknown.
The autism on the other hand...
>>706584687
what if we fling it out into space? not just randomly but to specificaly hit a dead rock like mercury?
>>706583501
They do use pesticides and the bugs are becoming resistant to them so they have to make new ones
>>706583501
Except not.GMOS are still treated with harsh chemical pesticides. There are plenty of studies that show animal side effects like organ damage, advaced aging, weaken immune system, infertility etc. Theres also studys that show shit like genes injected into soybean can transfer into the dna of our bacteria.Even usda recognizes its bad you uninformed retard but they dont have the balls like europe does and many other countries are following. But you choose to be ignorant about because you probably work in the industry. Your mindless propaganda is ill informed
>>706585066
>literally
>>706582948
>Europe is doing it so we should too!
Jesus Gordon, go back to your dorm. Don't you have to get up early for that Starbucks shift tomorrow?
>>706585094
Imagine Challenger.
But this time they put nuclear waste in the extra seat instead of a schoolteacher.
>>706585094
>what if we fling it out into space? not just randomly but to specificaly hit a dead rock like mercury?
Why shoot for a small spot in the sky like mercury? Why not just let the Sun's gravitation pull it in and destroy it?
The problem with shooting it in space is the same problem you see every year on CNN when some country launches a satellite into orbit.
Sometimes those fuckers explode before they get there.
And now you have a government-made dirty bomb littering radiation all over the landscape.
>>706585094
Expensive
>>706585160
>studys that show
citation needed faggot
>>706585276
>>706584978
Vice is about as informative as the Hartley hooligans
>>706585441
>>706582186
America , Africa , middle East , filled with Fuck stupid populations ....
>fact
>>706585449
Nah, unless you have any kind of example
>>706585309
the trouble i was thinking about the sun is introducing those kinds of materials to a giant fusion plant might destabilize the reaction.
>>706585404
is it any more expensive than the loss of land we can not afford to lose to waste that we cant even go near?
>>706585445
yes, yes i am
>>706582186
GMO's aren't bad, per se, but Monsanto is
The problem with copyrighting GM seeds and driving out competition is that we're left with a single strain of crop, and it's far more susceptible to infection and famine. Monsanto is greedy and dangerous, and a far ways from being ethical.
Why would you support them without knowing anything about them?
>>706585581
well done, you just proved your point is invalid due to lack of supporting 'studies' as you called them
>>706585935
he did not imply that he supported them, only that monsanto does not deserve the rap it gets as being the antichrist.
>>706582186
Fear of the unknown
>>706586179
>does not deserve
on what do you (or OP) base this assertation? Again, you don't really know them, so why do you even care to defend them?
>>706584687
We've been doing it for years using lead or bury it really deep you retard
>>706585856
>the trouble i was thinking about the sun is introducing those kinds of materials to a giant fusion plant might destabilize the reaction.
Um....
there are many ways we can fuck up the planet Earth. But I think the sun is going to be just fine for a while.
>>706585856
The sun is so massive it probably wouldn't have any effect
>>706586415
I base my assertion off the fact that their ideas stand the best chances of averting the world hunger crisis that looms cause everyone seems to think its their right to have a million children.
im assuming you base your opinions off leftist propaganda and false leftist reporting?
>>706586553
>bury it really deep you retard
See
>>706584989
you retard
>>706586942
>>706586963
do we really wanna go chancing that though? that oops would be a clusterfuck...
>>706587053
Because you're only allowed to dig one hole? God your retardation is incredible
>>706586942
To be more specific, any kind of material would be vaporized by the sun's energy long before it gets close to the actual fusion reactions in the core.
Bastard gooogl
>>706587120
Or you know do a few calculations
>>706587168
>Because you're only allowed to dig one hole?
Because of the many ways for people to screw up.
Like your parents.
>>706582186
Wasn't there a recent long term study result which showed GMO's greatly increased the need for herbicides? I'm too fucking lazy to go look for the links but there's nothing stopping faggits like you searching for it, besides, there's huge ethical reasons to argue against trademarked seeds and fish.
>>706586973
you know absolutely nothing about overpopulation
you should really go to school or something
FYI, overpopulation is a function of resource consumption, not overall population. While population is increasing outside of the developed world, it is mostly decreasing anywhere that consumes resources at an exhaustive rate. As industry develops, the world population is stabilizing, and the American midwest has enough farmland to feed the entire planet's population.
The only issue is LOGISTICS, which is a function of money, which Monsanto is hoarding without benefiting 3rd world countries.
Monsanto is a problem, and they don't help anyone. Get a fucking education already.
>>706583501
Then your dick gets 5feet long and sprouts kernels
>>706584687
Nuclear waste is treated way more carefully than the coal byproduct we get and it's less toxic than the coal stuff as well.
I always kind of question the "deadly" nuclear waste bit from journalists as well - anything radioactive enough to kill you isn't radioactive anymore after a few decades and the stuff that lasts for thousands of years isn't radioactive enough to hurt you unless you sit there directly exposed to it for a loooooooooooooong time.
>>706587168
lets dig a million holes and fill them with nuclear waste. then you cant live anywhere near the sites, grow anything near the sites and lets not even get into the runoff into the water table if the barrels leak.
we dont have enough land for this retardation. too many people as is
>>706585160
[citation needed]
>>706587381
People like you are dumb and conflate GMOs with Monsanto and trademarked seeds/whatever. GMO just means genetically modified and we've been using them for decades and they've saved billions of people from starvation.
Trademarking crops is a whole different thing.
>>706587525
yeah just like we do with the coal/oil byproduct that also is produced on a much greater scale per kilowatt hour versus a nuke plant's waste?
>>706582186
>ITT why are people so fucking stupid?
Why does the world spin?
Why does spiders have 8 legs?
Why Does cats always land on their feet?
Why is op a faggot?
>>706587549
Google has motherfucking ADVERTISEMENTS for lawsuits against Monsanto and their Round-Up product for causing cancer. It is so universally known, that lawyers pay google to send them customers.
Learn to use google, you stupid lazy cunt
>>706587525
Don't forget all the trucks and trains carrying that material around, crashing, derailing, breaking open into rivers and lakes.
>>706587322
Most people aren't retarded like you
>>706583501
So you would be fine altering a humans genes as well I presume? Make weak people strong, stupid people smart, and let's edit out that pesky african/hispanic/Asian DNA too since we clearly know what genes are superior and how altering them would affect a developing organism right?
>>706585160
" Theres also studys that show shit like genes injected into soybean can transfer into the dna of our bacteria."
you're a fucking idiot
>>706587657
Please provide legitimate proof of your claim that gmo's is directly responsible for saving billions of lives from starvation.
>>706587901
>Most people aren't retarded like you
>epic level burn
>>706582186
Microwaves can cause cancer if you have it on with the door open. Nice huge dose of radiation from that
>>706587941
jesus christ you people are fucking idiots you don't even have a basic grasp of biology yet you're so certain you're right
comparing GMOs to nazi style eugenics just jfc
>>706587901
you won. gg
>>706587395
good god man, someone needs to learn about population growth. population is increasing at an alarming rate all over the world, 1st world countries included.
and overpopulation is a function of population size. over consumption is just a byproduct of overpopulation. High population High consumption.
and why should monsanto share with third world countries who dont lift even a finger to help themselves? they just wait for the next christian missionary handout. monsanto is a buisness and as a buisness its entitled to make money or go bust. thats the long and short of it.
>>706587984
Here, read about this man:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Borlaug
>>706588039
>can't come up with a comeback
Your retardation finally caught up with you
>>706584989
Detonate a nuke next to them.. For fun
>>706587879
thats not how this works, its your job to support your arguments with sources.
>>706588214
and just in case you're too lazy the relevant excerpt:
"During the mid-20th century, Borlaug led the introduction of these high-yielding varieties combined with modern agricultural production techniques to Mexico, Pakistan, and India. As a result, Mexico became a net exporter of wheat by 1963. Between 1965 and 1970, wheat yields nearly doubled in Pakistan and India, greatly improving the food security in those nations.[10] These collective increases in yield have been labeled the Green Revolution, and Borlaug is often credited with saving over a billion people worldwide from starvation.[11][12] According to Jan Douglas, executive assistant to the president of the World Food Prize Foundation, the source of this number is Gregg Easterbrook's 1997 article "Forgotten Benefactor of Humanity", the article states that the "form of agriculture that Borlaug preaches may have prevented a billion deaths."[13] He was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 1970 in recognition of his contributions to world peace through increasing food supply."
>>706587984
It doesn't cause 3rd worlders still can't afford the cost. Instead of making more food to sell. Just give away the surplus we have for free and not be greedy cuntdongles
>>706588196
>being this wrong
population growth is slowing globally
pay attention, retard, this was recently in the news
seriously, take an environmental science class, your ignorance is just laughable
>>706588095
Microwave radiation doesn't have enough energy to damage DNA
>>706588350
god YOU'RE SO FUCKIN STUPID lmao GMOs have already saved SHIT TONS OF PEOPLE
Without GMOs we cannot grow enough food to feed everyone PERIOD.
read the link educate yourself stop posting this drivel
>>706587775
>>706587891
so just because the alternatives are bad, the holes are a good idea? we clearly need a new plan...
>>706588214
Ffs sake man, a Wikipedia page is NOT legitimate proof, even a 12 yo will tell you this.
>>706588327
wasn't my argument, I'm just tired of you lazy faggots wasting other people's time instead of doing your own research
If you have a counter-argument, you can provide support, otherwise you have no leg to stand on while you're bitching like a stupid faggot.
>>706582186
I will help you, OP, by simply quoting the words in your post that explain your issue succinctly
>america
>>706588122
Hahaha oh wow now say a pistol isn't a gun cause it's not one of the big boy machine guns
>>706588507
Bro I'm not going to do your research for you the man won a Nobel Peace Prize for genetically altering crops to produce higher yields just google his name.
>>706588196
Consumption is more dependent on development than population, you're objectively wrong about that
>>706584978
>Vice
>>706585856
>the nuclear waste is the size of a car
>billions of cars to make up the earth
>sun can fit like 100,000 earths
>he thinks nuclear waste the size of an ant with destroy the sun
>>706582186
Because we have been marketed to long enough as a mass up from down is hard to see. It is a good thing that there is doubt. Even if kinda sad that the doubt is directed at stupid contemporary things rather than big picture things.
>>706588686
I'm not going to Google his name, post scientific papers or shut the fuck up
>>706588402
Stick your head in a microwave, then it on. Now tell me it doesnt do damage lol
>>706588373
>in the news
cause thats always been a reliable source of info right? not a propaganda machine right?
if you would look outside the window of your leftist classrooms you would see that population growth is EXPLODING. only 1st world white populations are shrinking.
It takes a ton of delta V to get to the Sun is the real flaw with that plan. Easier to just shoot them outta the system entirely.
Because people make money from stupid people. Stupid people will rather believe oil companies over scientist on question about science for example.
>>706588529
>initial argument requires no supporting evidence
>counter argument does
you should hear yourself
>>706588459
You're wrong.
Calm down and read a book, retard
Even without GMO's, the entire planet could be fed quite easily, and that will never change. We currently grow enough food for 10 billion people, and that could quite easily be increased, but WHY?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-holt-gimenez/world-hunger_b_1463429.html
>>706588942
Like how hard would it be to sell tobacco if everyone was well educated?
>>706588768
since when are cars millions of cubic meters big?
>>706589045
>pathetic strawman
Your argument is just as pointless and unfounded as his. You're both big fucking losers, congrats.
>>706582186
I wholeheartedly agree with you OP. People fear what they don't understand. In America, all they teach you about radiation in school is that it's bad for you.
>>706588459
Right that's why we have TOO MUCH CORN in the U.S. I can post a link to a bunch of lies and call it the truth too. It doesn't change what the actual truth is. We post studies that show GMOs as harmful, you post a study discrediting that study, we then post a study that discredits the study you posted to discredit the first study. It's fucking pointless.
>>706588800
You're so fucking disingenuous lmao nothing I link will be good enough for you. Norman Borlaug saved shit tons of people by genetically altering plants to produce higher yields and you're sitting here sealioning instead of admitting it.
Here is his obituary describing all this in Nature, one of the oldest most respected science journals (Darwin published in Nature): http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v461/n7266/full/461894a.html
Also hey don't fucking change your genes you morons.
>>706588834
Microwaves induce rapid vibrations in water molecules which is translated to heat, humans contain water so it would burn but I wouldn't get cancer
>>706588095
Sigh.
The radiation from a microwave is radio waves. You'll catch cancer from your Wi-Fi or cell phone if that were the case. Retard.
>>706589214
thats not even a strawman? you should learn what fallacies are before throwing them around to sound smart
>>706588902
>massive propaganda campaign about shit you weren't even aware of until I brought it up
shut the fuck up you tinfoil-wearing piece of shit
>>706589264
Only rich bourgie (probably white) retards think GMOs are bad. Sorry. Everyone else in the world is grateful for the increased crop yields.
Idk what else to say lol you're so brainwashed with dumb internet shit. Just research Norman Borlaugh and stop thinking GMOs are some Bioshock shit.
>>706588834
joke is on you, it won't start unless the door is closed.
>>706589340
Still kills you. Regardless of how it kills you.
>>706589421
It is, I never claimed that his argument didn't need evidence, that was your own pathetic attempt at logic and defense of your own lack of evidence.
now die
>>706582186
Cause most of the population are just followers. They never think for themselves.
no wonder I come here just to fap lmao "ooooh the wheat is gonna change my GENES" cuz that's how it works just lmao
>>706589441
uhhuh im wearing the tinfoil hat here... what im now aware of is the extent to which propaganda indoctrinated leftist tools can be misinformed and misguided.
Im genuinely convinced all native english speakers are dumb as sacks of bricks. Americans have sjw, kkk and blm (and other morons not in any particular organization or category). Gb has all the hools and quite a lot of people (dont remember exactly) searched the consequences of leaving the eu couple of days after the referendum. And aus/zn has the worlds best shitposters
>>706582186
Nuclear power isn't clean, Pedro. That's called fusion, and a reaction has already been sustained for 120 seconds. Nuclear power is shit, I doubt you know of Lake Karachay, or any other such nuclear accident like Fukishima that is leaking tons of contaminated water into the Ocean as we speak.
>read a fucking book, not the internet
>>706589381
>implying cell phones and wifi don't cause cancer. And before you say they dont. It's been proven. And before you say those studies were discredited. The studies discrediting them were in turn discredited.
Fuckin kek
>>706589450
Objectively wrong again.
Just stop, you stupid faggot
>>706589095
Still easy. Its addictive. I know a very well-educated person who smokes. It has nothing to do with your intelligence.
>>706589699
It's called SCHOOL
I know conservatives hate the idea, but you really should invest in an education
>>706589565
i was not the guy that posted the first argument, i was just pointing out how stupid it was that the other guy was asking for evidence when he thought he needed to supply none.
god we need IDs back...
>>706589495
You can make it start by fucking with it. Seriously don't know why you would though
>>706582186
Implying the people are in control and not the media and corporations
>>706589758
You gonna cite something there champ?
Cause I hear you talking a lot of shit.
>>706589381
I'm saying microwaves don't cause cancer. Learn to read.
Radiowaves are even lower energy.
>>706589878
Actually liberals are far dumber and docile. I'm pretty smart, and I've noticed niggers and slightly retarded white people are liberals. How many economists are Democrats, can you find a percentage? The liberal faggots, like yourself control education. All of your faggot teacher brainwash you until you think it's your idea.
Next thing you'll tell me sharia law isn't real islam. Go suck some BBC, queer.
>>706590160
>far dumber
well you're dumberer
>>706589878
ive been there and finished. did you?
conservatives dont hate school, we just dont take retarded leftist courses with no job prospects. we become tradesmen and engineers.
and since you seemed to imply that you took enviromental sciences how is unemployment treating you?
>>706589539
Well yeah but I was specifically debunking someone saying they cause cancer
>>706590160
actually, school textbooks are controlled by a panel of uneducated conservatives from Texas.
You'd have to be educated to know that, and you're clearly terrified of the process.
>>706590270
>graph with no sources for its data
damn you really got me
>>706590371
CITATION NEEDED
>>706589878
Hi I'm your 4th grade teacher. Weed will kill you if you ever touch it and Thomas Edison invented the lightbulb. Also America is a democracy. Now your smart. Go spend 120 thousand dollars on college so you can get a good high paying job failing to flip burgers
>>706590284
I took college level environmental sciences when I was in high school cause I was bored. I graduated college 5 years ago.
And yes, conservatives hate public school, defunding education for poor people has been their priority for decades.
>>706589758
I'm looking at a study done 2011 that says the opposite of what you said.
>>706590270
So, you imagine a stew of amino acids popped until a fully formed cell with a nucleus and all related biological aperature appeared out of nothing. In all honesty, if you believe shit happens by accident then you are a bigger fool than that pompous ass Trump.
>>706590449
>wat is image search
is it laziness or stupidity?
The time you spent bitching could've been used productively.
>>706590123
Would it matter of I did? Anyone can call it bullshit. And then people will call bullshit on calling bullshit.
>>706590548
>4th grade
you really should've stuck with it longer than that
>>706582186
What about all the bees
>>706590761
OK, now take high profile party members, your statistic is shit and misleading.
>7 point spread with 3% error makes you 3% smarter than the average conservatives. Bravo good sir, you have shown me.
>>706590525
>needs common knowledge spoon-fed to him
Jesus fucking Christ, pay attention to the world around you for a fucking change.
http://www.nea.org/home/39060.htm
>>706590317
You said damage to DNA. Having your hand/penis/eyeballs explode from heat would seem to damage DNA to me, even if it didn't specifically cause cancer. Unless DNA isn't affected by rapid heat and explosion of cells. Then I was misguided and apologize
>>706590599
i see you did nothing to address the unemployment comment. have fun in the welfare line as you clutch your worthless education.
and a last parting comment, if conservatives hated education then there would be no christian and catholic schools. defunding does not happen, they just dont increase the teachers salarys as much as they would like so the teachers weave a yarn about how they are underfunded to brainwash leftist idiots like yourselves to their cause.
>>706591014
>makes you 3% smarter
wow, you're actually too fucking stupid to know how IQ works.
That's actually a new one on me
>>706582186
It's sad how forgotten and feared nuclear energy is. I heard the Chinese are starting to become interested in it though. Wonder if they'll hit it big.
>>706590730
>stew of amino acids
>appeared out of nothing
are you retarded?
>>706590761
you seem to belive that you dont have to supply quality evidence with your arguments. also this is based on CHILDRENS iqs. thanks for cherry picking your data.
>>706582186
Difference in intelligence.
Microwaves are very dangerous
GMO is very dangerous
Nuclear energy done properly with reasonable halflifes is good
>>706591344
>implying IQ changes considerably in adulthood
typical brainless conservative
>>706590730
>a stew of amino acids popped until a fully formed cell with a nucleus and all related biological aperature appeared out of nothing.
I honestly hope this isn't a sincere argument for a (divine) creator, because it completely misses the point of science specifically omitting a creator.
>>706590703
And I can call Bullshit on that article because reasons IS NO ONE LISTENING PROVE THE STUDY TRUE WHAT YOU CAN'T WE'LL FUCKTEEDLY TUMM FUCKKOO TO YOU THE OTHER DID CAN'T PROVE THEIR STUDIES TRUE EITHER WARBLEGAEBLEFAGBAGDICKSTICKCUNTSHUNTBOOBYDOOBYSTUUPOOHOOLOOFOOFOO
>>706585094
Space is too risky
1. Volcano, from whence it came
2. Sublimating part of the crust out deep, does the shit float??
>>706591180
>if conservatives hated education then there would be no christian and catholic schools.
>Education
>christian and catholic schools
Pick one.
>>706584687
Neither can carbon dioxide.
>>706591196
If 100 is the baseline, and 106 is your IQ, how is that not 7 points? And is this test supposed to be 100% accurate. Site some sources. Compare Thomas Sowell to Bill Maher, or Donald Trump to Hillary, he's 159. I'm 135, most people seem retarded to me and the liberals are full of shit. Maybe we have a different perception, as I was a liberal for some time, but then I realized I was a faggot and wrong. It's part of growing older. You want the government making your property tax 10% of gross or some other liberal money grab? Liberals always project funds that never become real, only on paper. We are fucking 12 trillion dollars in debt, that stupid nigger could have bought everyone a fucking house and spent less money
>>706591060
>http://www.nea.org/home/39060.htm
this is limited only to texas... not the whole country as you were implying
>>706591180
wow you're petty
I'm happily married with a well-paying job, if you must know
>>706591330
What's it like, being 14? It was a long time ago for me.
OK, give the narrative of life. If there were no amino acids, as you claim, then what did form the first cell?
>>706591551
do you even know what goes on in those schools? the people coming out are very well educated.
>>706587828
And magnets, whoa>>706587879
>>706591692
we can all lie on the internet
i bet your marriage is open isnt it
>>706591649
No, it is not limited to Texas, these same textbooks are purchased around the country in order to keep education consistent.
Why uneducated inbred trash from Texas gets to decide, I do not know.
>>706587941
Left out jew genes, jeweyness autosuspected
>>706591941
"open" is a broad term, but it's not how we describe our relationship. I have had threesomes with my wife, if that's what you're getting at.
>>706591949
the article states quite clearly that its limited to texas and that california is taking measures to prevent that same list of textbooks from being adopted in its own state.
therefor it would be concluded that its not a blanket national 'we pick your textbook' thing
>>706585935
they spend billions per year developing seeds. also they have a terminator gene that only allows the plant to reproduce once before becoming sterile. this can be used for testing the effects and if something bad does happen wait one year and its over
>>706592124
>cuckold
im laughing at you so hard right now, fucking leftists are so easy to figure out.
>>706591166
Not really no
>>706584978
>Vice
>>706587491
i see no problem
>>706592166
You do not understand how the industry works. The economic power of this Texas school board allows them to revise textbooks that are sold across the country, because brands want to make money. It's that fucking simple.
In Austin, Texas, 15 people influence what is taught to the next generation of American children. Once every decade, the highly politicized Texas State Board of Education rewrites the teaching and textbook standards for its nearly five million schoolchildren. And when it comes to textbooks, what happens in Texas affects the nation as a whole. Texas is one of the nation's largest textbook markets because it is one of the few where the state decides what books schools can buy rather than leaving it up to local districts, which means publishers that get their books approved can count on millions of dollars in sales. Further, publishers craft their standard textbooks based on the requirements of the biggest buyers. As a result, the Texas board has the power to shape the textbooks that children around the country read for years to come.
http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/films/revisionaries/
>>706588196
Most first world countries have had huge slowdowns in population for almost two decades now. Japan may very well have negative population growth soon.
>>706587941
And if you're ok with breeding new varieties of flower you support selective breeding of humans for attractiveness too.
If you don't mind hemp rope you probably don't mind human ligament rope.
If you agree with flour you support grinding humans' bones to make your bread.
>>706591455
Nerd alert
>>706591478
How so, Abiogenesis claims that that is exactly what happened. It's all over google scholar, they sell books on it as well.
>>706592342
>threesome
>cuckold
you should find out the definition of that word one of these days
>>706582186
In 20 years everyone will agree that BO was the best president america ever had.
>>706585856
>sun
>destabilize the reaction
Lol
>>706587941
I see no problem with this. So what if we alter our dna for the better? its better. like i see no downside to being better.
>beta fags cant get girls any more because of super humans.
>Profit????
>>706582186
what is any of those things? and will my assault rifle kill it? a microwave sounds like something that might be too small to shoot.
>>706582186
because monsanto is bad, GMO is hasn't had time to show many negative effects yet and nuclear power is bad, although i do agree that molten salt thorium reactors are a brilliant idea that could mitigate the negative effects of producing radioactive waste by reducing the amount produced.
>>706592727
That's like saying so-called obstetricians claim a load of atoms just dance around until babby is formed.
>>706588555
trips = correct. thanks annon
>>706592268
They also genetically modify their plants to be able to survive the harsh poisons they pump into the air and soil. It might kill some bugs, but it's also poisoning PEOPLE, and when a bug develops immunity (inevitably) their crops will be fucked, because they've now accidentally engineered a pest that ONLY eats their crops.
>>706592963
What's wrong with nuclear power? I'd rather have renewable energy but that's not always practical, and anything is better than fossil fuels.
>>706592963
also microwaves are bad as they can cause cancer, even wifi and electromagnetic radiation causes negative health effects.
>>706591847
>very well educated
actually, they're statistically under-educated compared to public school students. Get an education, maybe you'd know that too.
>>706591166
Let me elaborate. For something like a burn the entire cell dies so any damage to the DNA doesn't matter. With radiation though it damages the DNA without necessarily killing the cell. The body repairs the DNA, usually with no problem. Occasionally though the fix isn't right causing the cell to mutate and possibly become a cancerous growth.
>>706589264
yo on the DL America uses our surplus of corn to provide aid to other countries. We give them free corn. Farmers of aided country cant compete with free.
>farmers dont produce
>country relies on all food from america
>we own this country now.
>do what we say or famine.
>>706593187
nuclear power produces radioactive waste, this is a terrible byproduct, thorium reactors are a good but fast breeders and anything involving uranium or plutonium are too dangerous and produce too much extremely dangerous waste, we only need to supply energy till scientists crack fusion reactors, then its smooth sailing.
>>706593187
humans are stupid and make mistakes
so nuclear power is a bad idea
cheap energy in the short term is not worth the inevitable fallout of switching to nuclear across the planet.
>>706591593
>blaming Obama for actions of the Federal Reserve
>actions which were started by Bush to fix the collapsed economy that conservatives caused in the first place through massive deregulation
stay dumb
>>706592982
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis
Ok, then did the cell form out of nothing, then god wins anyway, the fuck are you on about?
Amino acids, specifically those in the l form rather than the d form made cells over time in the primordial stew.
No chemicals to start life, no life. Are you trolling or are you missing the simple fact that there was something life came out of, and that would be the mixture of chemicals, like people that teach evolution talk about, on even the most basic 4th grade documentary version of history. The cell formed, and that is what they say. Celllike is still a cell.
The Evolutionary/Atheist narrative is that life, arose on earth in far different conditions than today, most life probably used sulfur as fuel and emitted CO2, and after some times Oxygen... Nigga, the fuck are you on about. I literally don't know what you mean about no amino acids and enzymes. So, a cell coming from nothing over time is less realistic than it being created. It's "what happened" according to atheists.
>>706591211
the french use their nuclear stations to desalinate ocean water. they get clean water and power. Win win
>>706591014
just look at the world
Africa, middle east = conservative = low IQ
Scandinavia = liberal = high IQ
>>706593604
Radioactive waste is bad, yes. But it seems better than fucktons of carbon dioxide and other shit.
>>706593627
Are there better options that are actually realistic? Would be good to see solar panels on every roof and I don't see why not, but is that enough? And an accident at a nuclear power station is bad but I don't know if it's actually worse than the slower damage done by fossil fuels, it's just more dramatic.
>>706593075
just make a new crop?
>bugs die
>science laughs
>Profit?
>>706593479
thats fucked up
>>706587941
>Make weak people strong, stupid people smart, and let's edit out that pesky african/hispanic/Asian DNA
DUDE
wheres the fucking downside
>>706593939
I didn't say most of that. I only pointed out that you completely oversimplify the original formation of cells and then ridicule said that misrepresentation.
I can't even comprehend the arrogance of people who fail to understand a scientific idea and then ridicule it because it doesn't make sense to them, as if they've come found flaws in five minutes that people who have studied it for decades have somehow missed.
>>706591211
>>706593959
Nuclear power is fucking terrible, it's only used because it was originally heavily subsidized.
It's less productive than coal and less efficient than hydro. Nuclear is a dangerous fucking waste of money. There are too many superior alternatives.
>>706594143
Hydro-electric is more efficient than nuclear energy, and it's clean and safe.
The only problem is relocating people to make dams.
>>706594870
why not make dams apart of urban life. Fresh drinking water. clean power. water through out country. no more droughts.
>>706585160
>transfer into your bacteria dna
>transfers
>DNA
>SOYBEAN
I don't think so m8
>>706594692
>By products are easily disposable nuclear waste and water vapour
Beats choking our atmosphere with shit. Would you rather raised humidity or a 40 year reduced lifespan from disgusting air? See how mass coal plants have worked in the northern China provinces before you start bashing other sources faggot.
>>706594187
>just sacrifice an entire generation of your crops worldwide
>freeze all income sources until a resistant strain is successfully engineered and bred to world-feeding proportions
>WHAT COULD GO WRONG
you're describing their worst nightmare, and you're too dumb to realize it
>>706582186
Nuclear energy is a bandaid, and if you peel it off it'll take your whole fucking arm with it, you stupid shit.
Ever for a moment thought that you were the ignorant one?
>>706582186
And remember kids, these are the same people voting for your president!
It's human nature to mock what we do not understand, unfortunately.
>>706594870
Dams do tend to fuck up rivers and large amounts of habitat too, and that might be ok here and there but what if that's adopted on a large scale?
>>706595173
Fossil fuel emissions are bad, but hydroelectric doesn't produce any, obviously.
Also, the effects of one nuclear meltdown are bad enough to outweigh centuries of fossil fuel burning, at least at a local level. If nuclear power was widespread (something will have to be, after fossil fuels are burnt up), then meltdowns would be inevitable, and that level of fallout could literally destroy all life on earth.
>>706595251
if this new super bug can travel the world and destroy a whole crop 100% in one year. we have a whole different problem. also with CRISPER we can make a new mutation now in 3 weeks. in 18 months it will be 10 days. humans>fictional bug
>>706595173
>easily disposable nuclear waste
NIGGER WUT
It costs them huge sums of money just to get rid of it, it's certainly not EASY to dispose of
>>706583501
Yes great you get 3 ears of corn and for the low price of only one tumor since it's a shakily understood science at best.
>>706592569
As a matter of fact I agree with all of that
>>706595626
The thing is that habitats can reform in completely healthy ways, the disturbance to earth is incredibly limited as far as energy sources go.
>>706582186
>I know a guy who has absolutely no idea how a microwave works, yet insists it causes cancer.
Oh this I'd like to hear. Haha. Dynamic or condenser mics or all?
>>706587941
Yes
> Fucking all of america thinks nuclear energy is a horrible idea
> American
> Thinks Nuclear power one of the best forms of electricity.
> What was that OP?
>>706596004
we microwaved and egg once and when we opened up the oven and touched it, it popped. my friend was scared that there was radiation on it.
>>706592775
Tbh I'm totally fine with this. Most people aren't though and that's the problem they're ok with gmos but not making people decent living beings by eliminating the shitty ass problems that come with being human
>>706595709
They don't need to destroy it 100% to make Monsanto stop growing, they just need to make it unprofitable.
Entire continents could be untouched, and Monsanto would still starve them because they'd be losing money to keep using that crop.
Yet another problem with globalized farming and genetic manipulation.
>>706582186
Because ignorance and trivial idiocy are fostered in this country along with the belief that everyone's stupid opinion is worth something. Add a healthy dose of internet, where you can always find people to back up whatever braindead idea you have... Voila! A stupid and subdued population ripe for suggestive manipulation.
>>706595937
corn=tumors?
>>706582186
Because they are ignorant
>>706596144
Almost all*
My bad
>>706593424
So if the cell is destroyed their IS damage to the DNA. Because it's been annihilated completely
get in here
>>706596230
>>706596230
>>706596230
>>706596179
Good thing he was careful or he might have ended up with the powers of an egg.
>>706596009
Then thats fine then. As long as you picked which side of the fence your standing on
>>706582186
They're idiots. I got in an argument about nuclear energy. They argued for "renewable energy" so I mentioned hydro electric. They argued that it wasn't a renewable source of energy like wind or solar. Fuck it, you can't talk to these people, they're damaged.
>>706596490
i want egg powers.
>cracks
Nevermind
>>706596490
But it sucks being and egg.
You have to boil them to get them hard.
They only get eaten once.
and they only get laid once.
>>706587984
Just kill yourself if you're not going to do your own research. Discredit the content and citations of the page instead of just saying "no way Wikipedia is accurate"
>>706594692
Your argument doesn't sway my opinion. With modern nuclear facilities and the advancements being made there's little byproduct and much more efficient use of the fuel.
>>706582186
By word of mouth? I understand you shouldn't believe everything you hear but that's part of humanities collective knowledge. I've never been hit by a bus but I don't need to in order to assume it hurts and isn't good for me.
>>706585309
shits not just falling into the sun we (meaning the earth) are moving at pretty high fucking speed and any rocket loaded with nuclear shit will have to stop completly to fall into the sun. wich is pretty damn expensive. just burying that shit in the desert in in a deep hole and praying it doesnt spread after a few millenia is not ideal but a much better option.
>>706585094
We could get Elon Musk to launch it.
He seemed to do just fine with Zuckerberg's satellite.... oh... wait....
>>706585160
Stop
>>706582186
Why do people blame everything on presidents when it requires cooperation with senate, congress, and Homeland security to make things happen? Laws and bills dont pass without legislative agreement.
>>706589748
>once posted on the Internet the statement becomes false
Just accept there are accurate papers in the Internet
>>706585856
baka take a look at the size of the fucking sun. its not gonna do shit senpai. the retarded part about shooting something into the sun is getting it there in the first place desu.
>>706586415
the funny thing is monsanto is now owned by bayer.
>>706597248
that was just a random picture i had. no relevance to the topic
>>706596954
There are superior alternatives, why waste time on being inefficient?
FYI, my environmental science teacher built something like this and now he gets checks in the mail each month from the local power company for the excess power he puts on the grid. It's safer, cleaner, and more efficient than nuclear power. All the new buses in San Francisco use this technology instead of fossil fuels; they run nearly completely silently, it's eerie.
>>706597442
its completely relevant to what you were saying. People getting upset and angry over things they dont understand.
>>706597433
now they are. sold for like 62 billiion a few weeks ago. the ceo is probably fucking his wife on a bed of 100's
>>706597433
>producer of a lethal poison now owned by company that makes meds for heart attacks
how convenient for everyone
>>706597559
does it burn the hydrogen? where does the carbon go? it makes DC and AC power?
>>706597559
Unadulterated BS.
>>706597559
>natural gas
they mean normal air, not the fossil fuel
poor choice of words
>>706597586
oh. because they dont know how the government works, and they probably think the president slams a hammer saying "no more global warming" and the earth stops warming. just stupid people. I contribute the partys to this. Democrat and republican hate each other for some stupid reason. cant see past their differences, and prefer to make the other look bad than get any thing positive done.
>>706597922
>world-wide fleets of emission-free buses running on unadulterated BS
Try to keep up with the rest of society, slowpoke
>>706596883
We do do our own research and it all says you're wrong. That's why were asking for a cite. Because we can't find the study your referring too without finding studies that have already been proven wrong.
>>706597848
>burn
no, there is no combustion
electricity is generated by the separation and formation of air and water molecules, resulting in pure H20 and CO2 as the only byproducts.
>>706597559
Is your environmental science teacher doing anything with the heat output? You can get efficiencies on par with nuclear that way. Is there any form of this to power on the same scale as nuclear? I'm not arguing I honestly don't know.
>>706598326
holy fuck. what is that called?
>>706591377
Do you have any evidence that microwaves are dangerous, or are you just spouting shit like everybody else?
Do you know what non-ionizing radiation is?
If you were put inside a huge microwave oven, your body would cook, but only because you're mostly water.
The same people who don't know shit about the EM spectrum also think cell phones are causing cancer; which is retarded, as they operate on the short end of the radio wave part of the spectrum, as well as a tiny part of the microwave section.
>>706598373
no, the heat output isn't enough to be dangerous, unless you do something really dumb.
There's TONS of videos on youtube of people making miniature versions of fuel cells using mason jars and hooking them up to their cars.
It does actually work to increase fuel efficiency, but if you fuck up and don't let the gas and heat have a proper vent, you WILL blow your car up.
As far as plants go, the technology isn't commercialized to be that widespread, but they've started.
>>706598908
why the fuck are we not funding this
>>706598632
HYDROGEN FUEL CELL
You can buy one on Amazon or make your own out of a mason jar and some spatulas. It's pretty fucking easy, all you need is a good catalyst (palladium or platinum in small quantity)
>>706592569
are you a giant?
>If you agree with flour you support grinding humans' bones to make your bread
>>706598127
I think on a more basic note republicans See that things were much better in the "Good old Days" (around the 1960's). And they have more concerns with financial stability and religious priorities.
Democrats are more progressive and are more concerned with Civil rights and what they see as "working to the future" green energy, environmental protection, science, etc...
>>706583501
>No pesticides
This is completely false. They have been engineered to produce their own pesticide. You ingest the insecticide now with no means of removing it from the product.
>Solution to all our problems.
Wrong again. The insects have begun to become resistant to these new insecticide practices.
>People are scared because they don't understand it.
People are scared because there have been many studies that show that the foreign dna is actually dangerous for consumption. There is a reason many European countries are banning GMO products. And, it isn't because they're uninformed.
>>706599413
it honestly depends on what ever view you have. for me real communism would be the best, but because it never works. socialism is also cool when regulated properly. like canada
>>706599413
>Democucks care about civil rights
It must be nice living in that suburb. They don't care about civil rights. If they did, they wouldn't be intentionally keeping the black population locked down into government assistance programs in ghetos. Why work when they can get a free handout and stay out of politics, jobs and how the country is ran.
>>706599066
not as profitable, because it's relatively simple technology that doesn't require stockpiling resources. Money is always the reason.
We ARE funding this, but the big money is still elsewhere.
There are tons of websites that will teach you how to make these and hook them up, btw
>>706599816
>related
>>706599438
how is foreign dna bad for you? 100% of the food i eat is foreign DNA. if you can eat an apple, and you can eat a worm; why not eat an apple with worm DNA in it?
People who simply don't understand freedom of speech. I've met some realy nasty socialists here in Sweden. They declare for me that some opinions are hurtfull to society, therefore it should be forbidden. Don't you understand that discussion is what we do INSTEAD of engaging in violence? They piss on tradition which our forefathers have fought for and neglect what a benefit it is for society to let everyone speak their mind.
>>706599816
does this work by osmosis with gas?
>>706598169
AC Transit is California
This one's in Canada
>>706598691
kys shill
>>706600008
in theory it works. I dont know why we can only have one type of government. why cant we take the best parts of all forms of government, and put them all together? learn from the mistakes and have a unified government for the people by the people.
>>706585581
We owned three of these back in the day. Stupid vertical radio mount...
>>706600259
>now in Tokyo too
>>706600539
personal vehicles too, of course, but charging stations are still pretty rare
>>706599751
Ive never heard a republican fight for racial civil rights. Not since the days of Abraham Lincoln, before the paradigm shift.
>>706600138
>osmosis with gas
kinda? If you mean diffusion of molecules, sure, but it's driven by molecular stability, not the movement of water across a membrane.
>>706599985
I'll try to explain this as simple as possible.
DNA is designed to be unzipped and replicated through a natural process. However, this injected (taken from an organism modified and placed into another organism) strain of information has been found to not break down properly upon consumtion. You see during normal digestion proteins and DNA are degraded into small constituents, amino acids and nucleic acids, respectively, and then absorbed by a complex active process and distributed to various parts of the body through the circulation system. The problem is that it's not breaking down. Complete genes can avoid degradation and through an unknown mechanism enter the human circulation system. I'm sure you've had some basic biology classes during your lifetime so I am not going to explain to you the life cycle of a cell.
TLDR: Foreign DNA is being absorbed.
>>706582948
too* retarded
>>706595937
You clearly don't know what the fuck you're talking about. How does genetically modified corn cause cancer? Do we even know of any biological tissue that causes cancer upon consumption?
It's not fucking radiation you dipshits.
>>706601393
wrong
Paid oil company propaganda. It's cute how the hippies think it's their idea even as they breathe cancer. The fact that the number of people actually harmed by nuclear accidents is tiny in comparison to the number of people harmed by air pollution means nothing to them. Enjoy your asthma, oh wait, I guess I have to enjoy it with you since air pollution spreads over the entire world instead of being confined to one place. ITT China destroys the world and doesn't give a single fuck.
>>706582186
See Idiocracy OP
>>706601677
No, you're just a clueless trendy faggot.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14730317
http://www.food.gov.uk/science/novel/gm/gmanimal#.UsxuFPbXFGH
http://www.who.int/foodsafety/areas_work/food-technology/faq-genetically-modified-food/en/
http://natureinstitute.org/nontarget/reports/bentgrass_001.php
>>706601124
>Ive never heard a republican fight for racial civil rights.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964
By party
The original House version:
Democratic Party: 152–96 (61–39%)
Republican Party: 138–34 (80–20%)
If you never heard about it, it's because you don't pay any attention to it. Republicans supported more than democrats did.
Granted, this was in 1964, but your standard was since Lincoln.
learn2history faggot.
>>706582186
Paranoia creates some of the best shit. Look at Lovecraft.
>>706601941
>http://www.who.int/foodsafety/areas_work/food-technology/faq-genetically-modified-food/en/
heh
>>706599985
>this simple-minded
Genetics does not work like that, it's CODE, when you alter a bit of it, it has far-reaching effects.
>many of which we are not even aware of yet
>>706585856
Its somewhere around 5-10 thousand dollars per pound to just get things into orbit
>>706601891
Nuclear is simply not as good as the alternatives
Hydroelectric power is more cost efficient than nuclear, cleaner and safer. That's just hydro, using wind, solar and fuel cell technology as well would be more than enough to replace fossil fuels and nuclear.
>>706602466
Still waiting on muh SPACE ELEVATORS
Japan said they'd build one by 2050.
>>706603176
those new carbon nanotubes are actually strong enough to support such a structure too.
>just exorbitantly expensive in those quantities at this point
Shielding of such a structure from space debris is still a problem.
>>706603833
>counter balance 62,000 miles into space
that's more than a quarter of the way to the moon
yeah, it's a BIG structure
>>706602055
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964
>It ended unequal application of voter registration requirements
Republicans to this very day continue to try imposing more and more voter regulations to prevent the voting of minorities, immigrants, and refugees. Even if they did vote more on that day they are currently defacing the very act they signed into power.
>>706604138
still science fiction, but that gap is shrinking
the potential cost/benefit of harvesting asteroids without launching spacecraft is pretty absurd though. $5 TRILLION worth of Platinum just zipped by the earth last year, and that's not even a rare occurrence.
>>706604138
Seems more likely that we'll find a way to disrupt or distort gravity to allow craft to travel relatively unhindered from the planet.
>>706601393
so lets say we can manipulate the gene now. or in the next 500 generations it will mutate into the gene that we originally wanted. one is man made, and can be done in less than 20 days. the other takes thousands of years, and we get the same final product. your call
>>706602741
Hydro is amazing but can encourage people with myopic outlooks on ecology and civil engineering to terrible things on the reg. Flooding entire vallies disrupting the animal life and even forcing poor people to leave their homes, China, once again, is particularly vicious with eminent domain and willing to flood whole towns out while giving the people they're forcing out pennies on the dollar for their property. If they say no they get harassed or "disappear". South American states in particular have caused species to become threatened or endangered with very agressive development of hydro, though I must say their dam construction techniques are very innovative.
Solar and wind aren't on-demand and require much more advanced battery technology to be useful, right now the grid is just a big loop of immediate production. Power companies have been known to call industries and ask them to use more electricity temporarily provided at a cheaper rate because their production exceeds demand and you can't just "put" power somewhere without technology we just don't have. People swear it's on the way but people said that about Half-Life 3 and flying cars, meanwhile it's a harder problem scientifically than most people are admitting. Batteries with lots of energy in them are still dangerous, they can fail and catch fire if damaged or if corners are cut during manufacturing.
I can't help but think wind and solar are memes because the devices are almost always produced in asia or europe, I feel like the chinese just want us to buy their sun-catchers because we're stupid and will buy anything because memes. Meanwhile nuclear has advanced to the point that meltdown is mathematically impossible, nuclear requires big investment and regulation but is incredibly effective and carbon-free. It can even be revved up and down to respond to grid demand in a way that other forms of power can't achieve changing it's output rate in a couple of minutes time.
Friendly reminder, we've been manipulating heredity and gene development for centuries.
Carrots were originally purple.
>>706604631
>we'll find a way
it's nice to dream
at the moment, we still have more efficient and realistic alternatives to burning rocket fuel.
http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2010-11/nasa-engineers-propose-combining-rail-gun-and-scramjet-fire-spacecraft-orbit
>NASA scientists want to shoot a space ship from a RAIL GUN, going 0 to 1100 MPH in under 60 secs.
COOL AS SHIT
>>706605197
Manipulating gene development by generational breeding is VERY different than splicing genes using plasmids.
So incredibly different that your entire post is meaningless.
>>706605299
So nothing manned and your satellite better be able to withstand a shit-ton of Gs.
Also, yeah, gotta build it first. Good luck.
>>706605648
actually, humans can survive that level of acceleration pretty easily, it's less than 3G's; it just lasts long enough that people might have all passed out, but still, not dead.
And yeah, building a giant rail-gun is expensive, we'd have to commit to enough future launches to make it cost effective.
>and while we probably will end up launching that much shit into space, nobody wants to be the one to pick up the bill
>>706605478
GMO still refers to modifying an organism with out nature. think of mendeleev, those pea plants were GMO
>>706584687
If the nuclear power plant is based on Thorium it is a lot safer. Thorium has a decay rate of 50 years and you can't make weapons out of it.
>>706582186
It's largely a first world issue.
>>706606129
yeah, but that's not what people are upset about
they're upset about gene-splicing, they just don't realize that that's not what most GMO's are.
