"Viewers saw a Trump who was better than the liberal talking points" according to USA Today.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2016/09/26/trump-clinton-debate-hofstra-1980-reagan-carter-james-robbins-column/91141618/
Trump clearly won in a landslide according to 40+ viewer and internet polls. CNN is the only poll that showed Hillary winning.
Sitting here waiting for the shills to attack this thread in....
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"Stop and frisk works great"
>Mr. Trump that was ruled unconstitutional
Kek
>>705650575
>HRC: "Not only was it ruled unconstitutional, but it was completely ineffective and did not lower crime at all.
kek
Boob boner bowling
hillary looks like an old lady possessed by the devil. those fucking rape eyes and cheeks filled with plastic surgery. good lord
dank memes
>>705650240
>Trump clearly won
>candidate blatantly dodges all questions and can't take criticism
>feebleminded neo-nazi capitalists call all with opposing viewpoints "shills"
>mfw thinking about the mental gymnastics these retards must be doing at all times
>>705650240
Retards go online and vote for Trump. "See! He won." You motherfuckers would send a celeb to Alaska. Who gives a shit about online polls? Fag.
nice cherry picking those polls there OP.
trumptards may think that he won, but the rest of the world knows otherwise.
>>705650575
>"Stop and frisk works great"
>Mr. Trump that was ruled unconstitutional
“Or, as I’ve been saying for a long time, and I think you’ll agree, because I said it to you once, had we taken the oil — and we should have taken the oil — ISIS would not have been able to form"
If the unconstitutional wasn't enough, how about his advocating the asset-stripping of sovereign nations, which is not merely unconstitutional, but illegal in international law.
The only people who vote in those polls are nobodies who want to feel that their say actually matters. The way I see it both candidates are fascists who are bought and payed for by corporations, either way America isn't going to change much so why should I give a fuck. Sorry America, you stole all my fucks to give already.
Joke's over.
Everyone already knows 4chan and reddit were out for a good troll and spammed the online polls.
http://www.dailydot.com/layer8/trump-clinton-debate-online-polls-4chan-the-donald/
>>705652999
>2 websites had over 18.5 million votes falsely added against the real winner, Hillary Clinton.
>>705650240
>WE WON GUISE!!!!111one
>>705652872
>>705652999
>>705650575
>>705650694
>>705651005
>>705651026
>>705651226
>>705652872
>>705652999
Huh, angry shills or samefagging? Either way it's fun to watch them squirm:)
>>705653338
Donald Dump
>>705653267
>this totally proves they rigged all the polls that we don't like guis!!
>>705653338
>uses white supremacist meme to make point.
>>705653338
>it's fun to watch them squirm
Been watching Trumpcucks squirm all day since he got btfo in the debate.
>>705653490
>>705653513
>projection
Sure you have kiddo.
>>705652336
Constitutionality aside. Was he wrong?
>>705653490
<---- All confirmed biased and heavily skewed by /pol/ and reddit users.
Funny that all of the official polls that ensured that their data was accurate all showed Hillary winning roughly 80 to 20 on average.
Trump got cummed on by Clinton. He got triggered so easily..
Bragging about not paying federal taxes, it was to ez
>>705650240
So interjecting constantly and talking over his opponent, and generally acting like a child is seen as presidential.
Hillary is a fucking crook but We are so fucked.
It was obvious to everyone that he was about as articulate as a sock.
Even right wing commenters where shaking their heads.
>>705653758
Fact checkers confirmed that it did absolutely nothing, and simply did not work, so YES, he was clearly wrong.
>>705653621
Awww are you triggerd like Trump?
Did big bad Hiwwary say something to hurt your fewwings too?
/pol/ raided every online poll last night
Online polls are not to be taken seriously
Screenshot proof of their LOL WIN WE DID IT GUIS already posted here
>>705653267
>>705653805
>posts no evidence confirming your point but still affirms that point because it's what you personally believe
Funny, I left Reddit because of this.
>>705653941
I was referring to taking the oil. If the government had gone in with private companies no power that wasn't back by the corporation would have ever been able to form. One thing you don't do is fuck with Big Bussiness's bottom line.
>>705654038
>I know you are but what am I?
You must be 18 years or older to post here son.
>>705653805
>Funny that all of the official polls that ensured that their data was accurate all showed Hillary winning roughly 80 to 20 on average.
Yeah, they polled roughly 80% democrats for their polls, but think what you want, faggot.
>CANT STUMP THE TRUMP
>>705653805
*all democratic polls showed Hillary winning
Ftfy
>>705653613
>9gag
kys faggot
>>705653941
Stop and Frisk definitely did work. NY crime statistics prove this.
>>705650240
he succeeded on the issue of trade.... everything else pretty brutal in favor clinton..... he actually started babbling towards the end.... but knowing the american public i wouldnt be surprised if they didnt understand her and just liked his tie and thats enough
>>705653826
Just because your feelings were hurt by his words does not make him a child.
>>705653805
>all of the official polls that ensured that their data was accurate
>Only poll showing Shillary won is MSNBC
kek
>>705650240
What is it with you delusional Trumpfags? Your whole point is invalidated by using internet polls as evidence since they've been raided by /pol/. And as much as I hate Clinton's corrupt ass, she looked more presentable than that idiot Donald. Just suck it up and admit that Trump goofed this first debate.
>>705650240
He's really amazing
>>705654362
but it didn't, it was completely ineffective, and found to be unconstitutional.
>>705654452
wrong. CNN, ABC, CBS, Reuters all showed Hillary won by a very large margin.
>>705655004
>Liberal bias networks showing a liberal victory
Your point?
>>705653338
>mfw this triggers the hill-billies
If you watched that debate and think Trump is capable of doing anything. You are a fucking dunce. I hate Hillary but she actually came prepared. It looked like the PHD Student vs the Dropout on that stage. Trump is a fucking cuck, he is clearly being paid or threatened by Hillary.
>>705655214
The tired old liberal bias maymay. Most of them are not liberally biased and are actually quite centrist. MSNBC may be the only exception, in that it is more left leaning. Still not as far left as Fox is right though.
>>705654480
>What is it with you delusional Trumpfags?
Why are you lashing out anon?
>Your whole point is invalidated by using internet polls as evidence since they've been raided by /pol/
Evidence please, and a screen shot is not enough because I could say I did 9/11 and that would be proof enough.
>And as much as I hate Clinton's corrupt ass, she looked more presentable than that idiot Donald.
You don't hate Hillary then, you support her. Admit it.
>Just suck it up and admit that Trump goofed this first debate.
Go to /pol/, see the truth that even Trump supporters wanted him to be harder on Hillary. Luckily there are 2-3 more debates coming up which we will see who is the better debater.
>>705655701
>he is clearly being paid or threatened by Hillary
No, he's a republican, and they're all generally quite stupid. Trump is so far gone, that he actually makes Palin and Bush look halfway smart.
kek
>>705655796
>Most of them are not liberally biased
>Time Warner (Owner of CNN) is the 7th top donor for Clinton Foundation
>>705655796
Obviously a libtard would think liberal media is centrist.
>>705655796
>The tired old liberal bias maymay
Just because you are tired of it doesn't make it any less true.
>Most of them are not liberally biased and are actually quite centrist
You are a complete moron if you actually believe this. Almost every major media source has a leftist slant, especially when it comes to politics.
>>705655701
Ill gove you thay lol i hate both but as being "badass" as he is he should came SOMEWHAT prepared. He even made fun of her for being too prepared lol
>>705656045
>implying that means that they somehow have bias in VIEWER polling.
>>705656163
>>705656279
Yes
>>705653808
Real Americans dont pay taxes. Paying taxes is for Slaves
>>705656379
>Everything I dont like is a conspiracy!
If you go to google and type in "trump won debate" it looks like damage control. All these articles talking about how the polls were unscientific, duh. Why are they even talking about these useless online polls. It makes the dems look scared to death if there is even the slightest hint that Trump came out of the debate unscathed.
Interesting, that's all. Trump has them on the defensive even though for all intents and purposes Hilary won the debate.
>>705656196
>too prepared
I would have liked to hear her speak without sounding like a fucking robot.
>>705650240
*sniffle*
>>705657142
This
>>705657043
>internet polls
Yeah, cause those weren't spammed to death by anonymous folk who cannot vote
>>705657462
You know this, I know this. Everyone knows this. Talking about the way they are makes them seem paranoid.
>>705657142
>inb4 - "it was her body double"
kek
>>705658028
I'm pretty sure a body double would have had some inflection in their voice.
>>705650240
Linking an opinion piece doesn't mean USA Today said he won.
>>705658625
It's an internet poll, which makes it invalid anyway.
Trumpies are running around in mega damage control mode today, after his devastating loss last night.
>>705650240
All you need to know about the CNN poll.
Ted Turner married "Hanoi Jane" ...
I thought the body language of both candidates showed who they were. Trump always looked at Hillary when she was talking, she seldom looked at him. When Trump was talking he was alive, moving his hands and looking at people. When Hillary was talking she was looking at the ceiling or above the heads of the audience. This shows that she was reciting lines she had rehearsed, probably written by others. I don't know if she has the wit to wing it.
>>705659120
That doesn't effect viewers. The polls were viewer polls conducted carefully ensuring that each person could only vote once. That's why these polls are more accurate than the online polls which were clearly raided by trolls.
>>705650240
lol OP cited an opinion piece as fact. good thing he's too young to actually vote in this election.
>>705650240
Hahahaha he won polls because of those 400 pound fats
>>705657043
Because narrative means more than anything else. It doesn't matter who actually won but who people think won. It's why the Clinton camp had to take this shit seriously even though any objective viewer can clearly see she was better.
>>705653500
>>705653613
>>705653808
>>705651005
>>705651026
>>705651226
>>705653234
If you guys think Hillary actually won that debate by reflecting her own views, name a single point she made that wasn't plagiarised straight from Obama or Bernie.
>Protip: you can't
>>705651026
>Retards go online and vote for Trump
CTR is hiring drunks now.
Why did cnn only poll just over 500 people?
>>705654092
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>705656163
>Polls conducted by media companies that polled random voters are wrong.
>Polls were /pol/ had idiots press CTRL+F5 in incognito mode are totally legit.
Trumptards everyone.
>>705650240
I can't attack this thread, he kicked ass last night.
>>705660063
>>705660521
>shows polls raided by /pol/
>>705660313
Name a single point Trump made that wasn't blabbering about bullshit.
Imagine any other candidate throwing a shitfit and repeating Sean Hannity like it's fucking Moonbase Alpha?
>>705660521
lol because open polls online are never raided and always turn out 100% accurate.
Jesus kid get off your dad's laptop and go outside.
Fact checkers tore Trump a new one on TPP, birther-gate, his tax returns, the Iran deal, and for lie after lie.
>>705660313
Maybe I want the viewpoints of Obama to be continued. No reason to reinvent the wheel every four years.
>>705654362
Crime was down before stop and frisk was instituted.
>>705650240
lol 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9blNcsRZdKA
>>705660222
Trips for truth. Narrative is the same reason the only Olympic sport we get to watch is fucking swimming.
>>705654362
The drop in crime in the 1990s has been overwhelmingly attributed to the legalization of abortion in 1973
>1973+18 = 1991 - think about it faggots
>>705660802
He made a valid point that companies export manufacturing out of the US, putting the job market in decline, and even tied that point to an argument that the military severely overpays for most of what they purchase due to lack of innovation in American manufacturing as a result of overpowering competition from countries like China or Japan. Honestly anon, did you listen to what both the candidates had to say or did you just ignore the debate entirely and try your hardest to find angles at which you could make fun of trump?
Fuck, not another Trump shill thread. I thought it was common knowledge already that Trump is the least consistent candidate in history.
>>705661302
I really liked how both candidates were so touchy to actually blame inner city african americans for the high crime rate. But I respected Trump for actually treading on the subject. Hillary: "better relationships between police and community" which translates to, not gonna do a fucking thing because niggers don't give a fuck about the police. At least Trump know's that it's fukin gangsters that create these BLM issues. We need law and order, AKA, fuck these gangsters.
Take the oil? Fuck yes take the oil. Trump lives in a zero sum world, a capitalist world where nobody gives a shit about "hurt feelings", aka the real world.
This guy will literally make US great. Hillary, she knows you're all a bunch of cucks too scared to make radical change. And she's gonna make you swallow that saudi cum if you elect her.
>tldr;
>Trump telling you the truth, Hillary telling you what you want to hear.
>>705661830
You listen to his words but dont look at his actions, his clothes line currently operates in china. Are all trump shills really this dense?
>>705660802
>Reforming NAFTA
>Hillary did a terrible job with foreign policy.
>>705662282
I bet you that if he is president and puts his tax laws and deregulation in action he would move that business over here.
>>705661830
The military has to purchase from US manufacturers in order to keep their intellectual property safe. Why would we want to buy fighter jets that would fall out of the sky (China) or aren't designed to be landed (Japan - the last jets they made were for kamakazis)
Why did cnn only poll just over 500 people?
>>705661275
That's the problem right there, though; there's been little or no sign of change or improvement in American society since Obamas been elected. And even if Obamas modus operandi has helped to make improvements, doesn't that just prove how hypocritical she is if she was aggressively denouncing said modus operandi as she ran against him, and then suddenly decides that was her point of view all along? It almost suggests that she doesn't have the interest of her constituency at mind, and is simply trying to say whatever it takes to get elected.
Dumping my screenshots of /pol/ manipulating the online polls
>>705650240
USA Today is also the only newspaper available in dumbfuckistan, far from American civilization, so this is no surprise.
>>705662678
Why did cnn only poll just over 500 people?
>>705662460
Indicted immediately afterwards. You guys think that he's gonna become president and then pull his dictator card and bounce. WHY? You think he's like...oh shit gotta make a quick trillion.
Fukin retards don't understand the actual role of the president. fukin cucks
>>705662762
>>705662718
>>705662678
Thats bullshit and you know it.
>>705662916
Why did cnn only poll just over 500 people?
>>705662845
>>705662282
And he countered that point as well, saying he was a businessman and it's in the nature of any businessman to take advantage of any and all laws to improve his company. Which is why he suggested tax cuts in American based business and manufacturing would again be something any sensible businessman would take advantage of, allowing the US to regain self sufficieny in the business world through the encouragement of internalized free trade.
Lol none of the ctr fags can tell us why cnn only polled 521 people then closed the polls. Thats the one poll shillary won. #trumpwon
>>705650946
Anthony Cumia?
>>705663731
You lie.
>>705663731
Where is the lie? I cant find a single one.
>>705654362
Hurr durr correlation implies causation right guys?
>>705663984
>>705664137
>>705664245
kek, muh dick
>>705663731
Now hillary. She lies. The fbi said shes not trustworthy. She lied about benghazi she lied abouy being under sniper fire in boznia.
She deleted 30,000 emails.
So whose dishonest?
>>705663179
when employees in other countries are making less than $1/hr to make random shit, it doesn't matter how much you tax it, it will still be cheaper to produce overseas. So the only thing we will have is the same level of employment and shit will cost more.
Hillary only wants to bring taxes back to 1953 levels, when the economy was booming, jobs were plentiful and everyone was buying cars and houses. Really very simple. People making over 50k/yr pay 90% income taxes. When everyone is doing this, it helps the entire country as a whole, and everyone benefits from it, not just the rich.
>>705664332
kek
like CO2 and global warming, right m8?
>cherry picking so fucking hard
>>705664517
The 50s US economy was doing well because every other major country got the shit bombed out of them in the 40s and lost 10% of their population.
>>705652999
Yep, this right here. All you racist fucks can sick dicks now.
>>705664730
I hate hillary but we should bomb them again lol. Trump will do that #trumpwon
>>705664388
FBI never said she was untrustworthy, but nice try. They said she acted negligently regarding her emails, nothing more.
She did absolutely no wrong in the Benghazi attacks according to the Benghazi report.
The sniper fire thing has been debunked by snopes and other fact checkers. She never said that, and it was a rumor that started in social media and went viral.
>nice try / 10
>>705664868
Hillary has already proven she is willing to have some sandniggers murdered. Trump doesn't have the balls for total war
>>705664641
Lol there is nobody who thinks that rising CO2 levels are not causing warming... it's a greenhouse gas u goof
>>705664517
$50,000 in 1953 would be the same as $450,649.81 now in 2016 due to inflation.
So taxing today's 50k at 90% isn't the same as taxing the 1950's 50k at 90%.
>>705664957
>NOTHING TO SEE HERE FOLKS
>HILLARY IS NOT BREAKING ANY LAWS
>GO ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS
>>705665102
>can't tell if trolling or stupid
CO2 *is* a greenhouse gas.
>>705665143
holy fuck you're retarded. please for fucks sake tell me that you're only trolling. 90% now is the same thing as it was yesterday, 10 years ago, and believe it or not the 1950s.
>what are percentages and how do they work
>>705665288
I said it was read my post
>>705665494
Re-read the post that you're replying to.
Also, think tax brackets..... 90% started at the 50k level back then, which was basically very rich. Today 50k is on the low-end of middle class.
>>705664957
Nice try ctr but in later interveiws with the fbi they said she was dishonest.
She didnt send support to benghazi and then lied to americans saying it was just a video
She definetly said that she was under sniper fire as she got off of the plane in bosnia you can find the interview easily.
Youre not getting us today ctr.
won't be long until whatever brain aids shillary has kills her, then we can bow down to supreme ruler trump
>>705665061
Trump said he wants to turn the desert to glass. Nice try ctr.
>>705665890
tax brackets or no tax brackets, inflation has absolutely zero to do with this. tax brackets remain fixed, so your whole point is simply not valid for the argument.
ITT little boys scared of having a female president. so afraid that theyll pretend to support an imbecile
>>705665494
I'm not even >>705665143, but you are fucking retarded
50k in 2016 dollars is equal to 5500 in 1953 dollars
50k in 1953 dollars is equal to 450k in 2016 dollars
The top marginal tax bracket in 1953 would be in effect for those earning 450k in 2016 dollars
>>705666357
>what is systemic racism
>>705666051
False flag BS posts hoping it will 404 before shift end. So you can feel you did something productive today.
>>705666051
wouldn't happen, all talk. Donald Trump would accomplish absolutely nothing as president. His presidency would honestly not be that bad because everything would just be status quo.
let's face it, no matter who wins, america is going to get shit on for the next four years
>>705650240
>online polls
>hoarded by /pol/
Well duh
>>705659369
Trump was alive moving his hands. Yeah, sure. In that dainty way he has.
>>705663505
Nice try ctr, see >>705666701
>>705666400
>still doesn't get it
90% is 90% and is not different based on years.
>>705663179
Read between the lines, that translates to, "I dont give a fuck about the american people or patriotism, I just care about my business."
>>705666400
How can anyone not understand this ?
I thought anons were smart...OH, WAIT!
>>705667002
So every single other poll that covered this except for one other i was able to find, were all skewed by pol? Hillary literally pays people to do this.
>>705667499
Not exactly. Chapeter 11 is there to keep businesses afloat during hard times, so that they can regroup and stay open. This keeps employees (American people) in their jobs, and gives them future stability.
So when Obama does this for GM, it's okay, but when a republican (nominee) does it it's not?
>>705667723
nice try but trump enterprizes and gm aren't the same thing. what trump did was cheat the system, and kept from paying his fair share.
>>705650240
>Trump clearly won
>Only CNN says Clinton won
trumps first rebut: "Our jobs are fleeing the country. they are going to mexico and other countries"
>mfw
>>705667499
You don't even have to read between the lines. He tells you exactly what he's doing. The people who support him only hear what they want to hear.
>>705667392
Ok, will pretend you are dumbfuck and not trolling : yes, 90% is, and was, 90%, however the tax bracket is not the same, the modern equivalent would be >$450k paying 90%.
>>705667723
When obama does it its ok? When did I say what obama did was ok. Even then Obama is not some rich Baron telling people that sending labor to china is bad while having a chinese labor force.
>>705668207
Businesses use chapter 11 every day. It is part of the law. Therefore it is NOT illegal. Also it helps businesses, and therefore helps employees keep their jobs.
Holy fuck you people want to nit pick this into some kind of crime of the century committed by Trump, when he was doing what has been done millions of times by many other businesses, and was setup by the government to help people keep their jobs.
>>705668850
>it is NOT illegal
it's still unethical as fuck, especially when abused by rich business tycoons such as it was in trump's case.
>>705668850
>it helps businesses
It helps businesses that were run poorly restructure their debts. Yes its totally legally, but companies that undergo Chapter 11 are generally run by fucking retards.
>>705668974
Why do you demonize the rich? When was the last time a poor man gave you a job?
I could care less about the debates.
Do you want a candidate with actual experience who will fight for the middle class? Or do you want a candidate who's a big mouth blow hard, who is politically retarded.
>>705669744
Why are you talking about hillary like that?
>>705669744
I think I'm going to vote for the Donald.
I dont especially like him, but I can't stand Hillary.
I was going to vote third party as a protest, but I really dont want Hillary to win.
>>705669744
I want a candidate who will improve life for the middle class, yes. Thats why I'm voting for Trump. Furthermore, how could anyone vote for a president who has literally committed treason? Think Trump "cheated" people out of money? HAH he literally could have. Doesn't hold a candle to what Hillary has done via the clinton foundation. Trump may have caused some inconvieniences, and some down right hard times for a very few people. Hillary has actually ruined lives.
>>705669932
Hillary has already won. Vote for who you want, but an overwhelming majority are already siding with her.
>>705668850
You dont get what I'm trying to say, you keep thinking I'm saying that what he is doing is illegal, NO. I'm trying to say that he is a bullshitter. All the things he says constantly change and Trump shills just forget about it. He dissed hispanics, then a month later you have retarded ass hispanics voting for him. He dissed veterans, then you have retarded ass veterans voting for him again. Lied about donating to several charities and there you have stupid ass people still thinking hes an honest politician.
Hes the classic snake salesman that will tell you what you want to hear so you give him what he wants, and it seems that many americans still in this day and age are naive enough to still fall for the snake salesman tactic.
>>705669744
how much less could you care?
>>705670011
>Doesn't hold a candle to what Hillary has done via the clinton foundation
proof?
>literally committed treason?
proof?
no?
i didn't think so.
>>705654066
In short, any online poll should not be trusted at all, and that's not just because of /pol/
>>705670193
>>705655004
And Raw story and Huffpo and Daily Kos
>>705670056
I've seen probably a hundred trump signs and bumper stickers
I havent seen one sign or bumpersticker for hillary.
And this is a primarily democratic area.
>>705670452
>muh memes
>>705670504
as if that actually means anything
>>705670766
they're not wrong tho
>>705670193
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LYRUOd_QoM
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/19/hillary-clintons-long-list-of-lies/
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/09/tracking-the-clinton-controversies-from-whitewater-to-benghazi/396182/
http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/here-they-are-hillarys-22-biggest-scandals-ever/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dY77j6uBHI
http://circa.com/politics/election-2016/hillary-clintons-list-of-notorious-friends-felons-and-offenders
http://www.hannity.com/articles/election-493995/heres-the-updated-list-of-crimes-14123163/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/riley-waggaman/hillary-clinton-is-living_b_10862558.html
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clinton-deleted-33000-emails-secretary-state/story?id=42389308
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/22/benghazi-scandal-what-happened-and-what-does-it-mean-for-hilary/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftx7soJIaKg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlmAQXCYSXk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGC2vg27bFI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbkS26PX4rc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k4nmRZx9nc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpCRL_KVC1k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TC0AKNQBV80
Careful what you wish for.
>>705670504
>hur: my town represents the entire country
>>705650240
>40+ viewer
CNN would make 100 polls with this many viewers
>>705650240
Well this is a bait thread isn't it. I'll bite. I'm not a shill. I'm a democrat. 100 million people saw how Hillary eviscerated your buffoon. The time is getting close at hand for the Trumkin mass suicide. How are you gonna do it. I like the Jonestown method for you assholes
>>705670504
Gee that's a good indicator of who will win.
>>705671120
CNN had five hundred something people who responded to that poll before it was closed down.
538
>>705652336
but lester would agree, I'm sure of it!
>>705652872
This is why we should have had different candidates. Imagine if the election had been Bernie, Kasich, and Johnson. It would have been great, because no matter which candidate won, nobody would have actually lost. Instead, our two frontrunners, one of whom will get the office, are going to fuck us all over.
>>705671587
that's a lie.
cnn had more people polled in their poll then all of the other ones combined, so theirs is far more accurate, and they did theirs in a way where /pol/ was unable to skew the results like they did on all of the others.
>>705670830
>>705670908
It's an anecdote.
>>705652999
yep I was here when they spammed the links for 4channers to fuck up the poll in favor of Drump
>>705671500
Did I say he was going to win jackass?
>>705652336
Stop-and-frisk did work. Crime rates in NYC fell much more than in other cities during that period, e.g. Chicago, and it has worked elsewhere as well. Fuck you, you lying lawless spineless piece of shit.
>>705650240
Even Fox goddamn News said Hillary won the debate.
Thats when you know it's true.
>>705667967
Sure dickhead. Off your meds? MSNBC says Hillary won along with every other news outlet in the country. Even Fox says Hillary won. Only Breitbart thinks Trump won.
>>705670193
Sorry was eating. I have more
>>705671945
wrong.
it had no effect at all, and it has been discovered that many other factors were actually at play there.
>>705670193
>>705671980
this.
Fox: "disaster for Trump"
>>705671808
Simmer down homie. Go oil your gun or something
>>705670193
Last one
>>705672010
>Only Breitbart
>>705672306
this one is one of the very ones that /pol/ raided you dope.
>>705672468
I see ctr is out in full force tonight
>>705672306
Fuck your fake ass poll under a Time header.
>>705669932
implying sanders has more in common with dumb aka trump than clinton. if you are a real sander's supporter you'd still vote for clinton over the alternate
>>705672058
>it had no effect at all, and it has been discovered that many other factors were actually at play there.
>>705672621
http://time.com/4506217/presidential-debate-clinton-trump-survey/
>>705650240
The damage control is unreal
>>705672247
My gun could use a good oiling, it's been sitting in storage for a few months.
>>705672736
hey faggot, see >>705672468
this poll was literally the fist one that /pol/ raided last night. basically skewed as fuck in trumps favor.
>>705672736
Go back to /pol/ asshole.
>>705672659
>if you are a real sander's supporter you'd still vote for clinton over the alternate
I'd never vote for her. Her record speaks for itself. I'll take incompetent over evil and day.
>>705672736
fake & gay
>>705673059
any*
>>705662166
>Take the oil? Fuck yes take the oil.
War crime. You're saying his business experience makes him not care about war crimes.
>>705650240
>CNN is the only poll that showed Hillary winning.
You mean the only scientific poll, which is the standard for consideration by potty trained adults?
>>705662166
>>tldr;
>>Trump telling you the truth, Hillary telling you what you want to hear.
Nice try, but all of the fact checkers say otherwise. Trump basically lied the entire 90 minutes. He was way off on nearly every single issue.
>>705656563
But everything a slave owns belongs to its master, so if a slave pays taxes it's technically theft of his masters money.
>>705673059
That phrasing has strong implications that Trump is considered the opposite of evil. He's just an incompetent evil.
More chance someone else will be calling the shots. We'll just end up with a Dick Chaney to do his evil.
>>705673427
>scientific
>500 and something people polled
>abruptly ends when polls start to shift in Trump's favor.
>scientific
lel
>>705652336
>but illegal in international law.
Who the fuck cares?
"International law" comes down to who has the fucking nukes. Everyone else gets to sit down and shut the fuck up. If you're useful in some way, you might get some scraps from the big boys table.
>>705652336
oh no, better not violate international law!
>>705659572
>believing that a corporate owned news outlet would conduct an unbiased poll that might or might not confirm their agenda
Are you really this naive?
>>705671268
Why is it always the left advocating violence against the supporters of the right? You people are fucking bullies, whether you're running the USSR or East Germany or Tammany Hall or the local HVAC union smashing up some business that doesn't want to work with you.
>>705670452
>>705670766
>>705670834
The truth is Hillary's record is SHIT. She is a career politician. A windbag of epic proportions.
She is terrible. She never made jobs.
>why hillary only has one kids
>>705654480
Holy shit shills are now the ones saying the polls are rigged instead of trumpers. This is fucking hilarious
>>705673851
>their agenda
"it's a vast conspiracy!"
>>705650240
Member when Bernie did the same thing to her?
Hillary voters didnt even watch it, much less vote. They know they are already going to win.
this lol
>>705674046
The country won't survive unless you fuckers are culled.
>>705662678
>>705662718
>>705662762
>>705662859
>>705662916
>>705662992
>>705663031
This is so pathetic. Good job /pol/ you're all retards
>>705673702
>Who the fuck cares?
anyone with a streak of decency and humanity?
those who dont want to be condemned as international war criminals? those who do not wish to follow in the footsteps of Adolf hitler, in the asset-stripping of each country which he annexed? those who do not want to be looked on in the same fashion as Josef Stalin, who performed similar asset-stripping of the Warsaw Pact nations? Those who do not want to be looked on like the British Empire, as it looted the riches of the Raj?
Those who have the slightest shred of decency, shame, or humility, who do not wish to act like the schoolyard bully and steal other's lunch money.
Not least because, like the british empire in 1890, or the Germans in 1945, or the Soviets in 1989, you reap what you sow.
>>705673702
Underrated post. Some criticized China for ignoring the international maritime court ruling with respect to the Philippines, but the U.S. has ignored every single ruling against it by that court.
The TIME's online poll had trump at 11% before /pol/ fucked with it
>>705673487
Like the fact checkers hosted on hillary's website?
>>705674395
Again, your side, the left, is advocating violence against the right. Here it is, for everyone to see.
>>705674046
Trump suggested Hillary be assassinated twice.
>the left always advocating violence against the right
Fuck you
>>705674641
>a world where people dont agree with me is a /pol/ conspiracy
You are a bad person
>>705661830
WWOOOOOAAAA NIGGER FELT FOR TRAP.
>toss banana at new harambe
>>705674856
Trump said Hillary was a hypocrite for advocating gun control while she herself depended on armed guards. Was he wrong about that? I think it's a valid critique.
The media promptly spun it into something else, of course. That doesn't make them correct.
>>705651226
And I give a fuck what "the world knows" why exactly?
>>705662510
Because it's at least better than cherrypicking a 20 person panel and try to push it as a representation of public opinion.
>>705674856
>those who advocate for the second amendment could respond in the event of despotic control
Are you even trying anymore? You violent pile of human garbage
>>705650240
You know how I know Trump lost? Because you trumpfags are trying so hard to convince everyone he won.
>>705675081
Yeah what ever dude
>maybe the second amendment people can do something...
You're so full of shit.
>>705653758
Honestly? It depends which study you prefer. Some say it helped a bit, some say no effect. Ultimately, it's all about doing math on old statistics, since there's no control group for NYC.
But really ... does it matter? Crime's been plummeting for decades. We don't NEED to give cops the ability to unconstitutionally search anyone they feel like. It's all part of the same drug war surveillance state law-and-order bullshit.
>>705675352
Topkek
>>705675081
gun control does not equal a total ban. What is so complicated about this concept?
>>705675352
>you know how I know you are wrong, you are expressing your opinion
Your argument is bad and you should feel bad
>>705673130
Not doing this is like playing poker and at the end giving them their money back...
There is NO solution to survival without the consumption of resources, especially sharing those resources with your enemies.
>>705675352
/thread
>>705675081
what trump said was "maybe the 2nd amendment guys can 'do something' about that".
not "maybe the 2nd amendment supporters will vote against her".
Are you familiar with the term "dog-whistle"?
his comment was "maybe those people who support guns will do something to her". It does not take a rocket scientist to work out that pretty much means "perhaps someone will shoot her".
Perhaps it should be noted that the US Secret Service officials have confirmed they warned Trump after his comments, noting, that anyone else saying that about a presidential candidate would have found themselves being taken in for questioning.
>>705674641
Then 110000 more Hillary shills came along and still lost! Hillary uses bots we use Anons!
>>705650240
>Sitting here waiting for the shills to attack this thread in....
says the shill
>>705671687
>>705670830
>>705670908
Trump damage control handbook:
1. Delusions + denial
2. Swiss cheese 2nd grade logic
3. Merely pretending to be retarded
Without fail. So predictable.
>>705675858
Nice shitpost Nimble America, +2 loyalty points!
>>705652872
>The only people who vote in those polls are nobodies who want to feel that their say actually matters
underage b&
this is literally how nov 8 will be decided and has always been decided
>>705675192
See you at the coming pogrom for all the Trumpkins intent on ruining the country.
>>705675660
WRONG
*sniff*
WRONG
*sniff*
WRONG
*sniff*
>>705674479
Here's a fucking newsflash for you, libtard.
The US has not recognized any the ICC and already reserves the right to decide unilaterally what constitutes a war crime. We are the LEADERS of the free world, not just members of the free world club. We hold ourselves above all other countries and we have the military might to back it up if someone gets cocky.
ITT Trumpfag stages of grief
>>705655701
I don't think he's being paid, I think he genuinely doesn't understand how to do a debate and doesn't know why he lost. He looked so sad up on stage.
>>705650240
>Trump clearly won in a landslide according to 40+ viewer and internet polls
HAHAHAHA NO TRUMPFAG
JUST NO
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAQHAHAHAHA
>shills
HAHAHAHAA SORRY YOU CAN'T DEFEND YOUR ORANGE CHEETO JESUS OP
STUPID TRUMPFAG
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHBAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>705675841
Great explanation to a hack under the spell of the Trumpian dog whistle.
>>705676203
>YFW America hasn't decisively won a war in living memory
>YFW black pyjama Viets chased y'all the fuck out like rats
>>705676203
>Here's a fucking newsflash for you, untermensch.
>The 3rd Reich has not recognized any of the ICC and already reserves the right to decide unilaterally what constitutes a war crime. We are the LEADERS of the Arayan People, not just members of the free world club. We hold ourselves above all other countries and we have the military might to back it up if someone gets cocky.
Does that sound a little bit insane? the sort of thing that a complete lunatic would say? Sounds like it to me.
>>705650240
Trump: Honesty, Integrity, intelligence and facts
Hillary: Lies, aversion to questions, manipulation and insults.
Trump was rubber and Hillary was glue, Hillary brought up the birther thing, and Trump bounced it back exposing her as the original birther. Hillary has no game, no strategy against Donald, just political bs.
>>705675660
It's not that an opinion is being expressed. It's the level of desperation it is being expressed at.
>>705676460
You made literally no points
Just like Hillary
>>705676581
avoidance to questions*
my bad, but probably aversion as well.
>>705675885
Shills get paid faggot
OP is just a dick rider
>>705676581
LOL this is what Trumpfags HAVE to believe. Desperation!
>>705676273
Top kek
>>705659120
this shill has his own fake "memes" prepared ahead of time b/c he knew the news would report he was wrong
>>705676581
>Honesty, Integrity, intelligence and facts
HAHAHAHA STUPID TRUMPFAG
NO-NO-NO-NO
NO NO NO NO NO
