How old were you when you grew out of liberalism?
The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
How old were you when you grew out of liberalism?
>>704707343
You should try growing out of 4chan
When I became a god.
Same age I grew out of conservatism
>>704707343
20.
Leftism is vague buzz words and short sighted thieving socialists.
>>704707343
I don't believe it's possible to be on 4chan and be an actual liberal, but I stopped buying their shit only in the last 5 years or so, am currently 27.
>>704707343
I think you got it backwards bro.
I haven't seen a republican with a book outside a photo op.
right after school when i got a low paying job
22
>>704707771
It's hard to be on 4chan and not be a complete troll 99% of the time, but almost everyone here is some kind of vague leftist.
>>704707771
Card carrying Commie here.
You don't have dibs on hate or being an ass, no matter how much you guys act like it.
About 22, stopped smoking weed and seen what a cuck i'd become.
leftism is losers who wanna see other people's businesses crumble, so everyone become as mediocre as them
>>704707864
Then you are a fucking idiot.
How old were you when you grew out of edgy libertarianism?
i was never into libralism because i am not a complete fucking retard with no grasp on economics or evolution of the human (white) race
>>704708065
This.
>>704708097
See? you sound like the screaming hillbilly portrayed as the left in ops pic.
Back your shit up with facts you supposed book reader.
>>704707864
sure kid. uses "bro", expects to be taken seriously.
>>704708051
I'm conservative and i smoke more weed in a day than you ever had. Blaze it fagit.
never, because my family raised me in a way that taught me to appreciate family values and hard work instead of crying and asking for handouts
>>704707486
Ths. Blindly pledging allegiance to the ideals of any political party is stupid. Don't be a Republican. Don't be a Democrat. Don't be Liberal or Conservative; be an American.
>>704708240
hillbilly's don't scream racism. liberals do.
>>704708271
are you me?
>be an American.
No thanks, Americans suck.
>>704708240
Why waste my time? If you are ignorant enough to be a progressive/liberal, I would have better luck teaching a brick wall how to speak.
>>704707343
name 20 books you've read faggot
>>704707343
>Calls the left, liberalism
Ameritard detected
>>704708397
idk, am i?
>>704707457
PRAISE KEK
>>704708251
>>704708174
>>704708455
Insults. Not facts.
If you picked up a book other than mein kampf you might be able to say something useful
>>704708406
this
and you're not american, faggots, you're yankees
>>704707343
When I started grossing 3k a week and loosing over half of it in taxes.
>>704708271
And how does jerking it to pony porn and cuddling with an anime body pillow at night fit in to that equation?
This election year, seeing my friends on Facebook blindly sharing anything with "occupy democrats" or similar bullshit. What's funny is they all complain about conservatives blindly following Trump.
>>704707343
Very early 20s.
>>704708569
hurr durr strawman and projecting hurrrrr
socialism master race
>>704708271
>Appreciating family values
>on /b/
17
>>704708546
claims insults, posts insults.
>>704707457
satanism spotted
>>704708569
found the leftist failure! how does it feel to be someones bitch and being jealous of them? :^)
The day I decided that building things was for libtards and dropping out of school, being unemployable, and hating the things liberals build was the way to go.
When I realized that both sides were just rich assholes trying to control the lives of the average citizen.
>Any system could work if you prevent the rich from controlling it.
>>704708554
What country are you from? Oh,that's right- nobody cares. Now get back to consuming all of our products, media, and ideals while selling us the vast majority of the world's most valuable resources for bargain prices;there's a good chap.
>>704708546
Yes because your strange strawman argument that unironically compares Conservatives to nazis, is full of facts..
>>704708546
no one is posting facts kid. OP asked a question. you're the nigger in this thread.
>>704708279
BE A MURRICUCK GOY
>>704708251
You triggered?
>>704707864
Hate to break it to you, but if you think that modern GOP is anywhere close to conservative you don't have a clue what you're talking about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDkzpVIBfH0
>thinking that being conservative will get you out of the cuck zone
COMMUNISM MY DUDES
do all americunts actually think that capitalism is a good thing?
>>704708546
How about "Anarchy, State, and Utopia" or the "Federalists Papers" or some Friedrich Hayek you liberal fuck.
>>704707343
Giving a shit about politics or religion is the biggest waste of people's time.
>>704707343
>>704708891
you're stupid enough to think that kid.
>>704708771
THATS WHY WE HAVE TO SEIZE THE MEAN OF PRODUCTION COMMRADE
CONSERVATISM ARE BACKWARDS AND OUTDATED ON SOCIAL ISSUES
>>704708927
Are all Europeans dumb enough to think that Socialism works?
>>704707343
Early 20s. It was around them I read Fashionable Nonsense by Socal and Bricmont.
>>704709028
You've answered my question then
>>704707343
About 3 years ago when I started taking pride in my nation and want to restore it to some of its former glory.
>>704709096
sure kid. how often are your "problems" solved by the liberals?
>>704708855
guess being a nigger it's better than being poor white who doesn't realize he is poor because he is fucking stupid and a person who let his landlord fuck his girl -if you even have a girl- but then he realizes he is a cuck, because his dick is fucking erect, but not because of his wife; it's because of the bourgeoise dick getting in and out of your girl -if you have one- and then you realize you want to fucking suck it so your gay
>>704708771
sauce?
>>704709230
how often your problems are solved by the politic class
>>704708642
What are you doing on /b/ if that's not how you live?
>>704708771
SEIZE THE memes OF PRODUCTION MY COMRADUDE
>>704709160
yes I have. you are stupid. another dumb as fuck millennial.
I bet you are running around your mothers basement screaming "I won, I won" in your dirty underwear.
>>704708717
>>704707343
>when I had severe head trauma that considerably lowered my intelligence
j/k i'm a liberal
>>704708279
>>704709430
>dirty underwear
you described yourself
>>704709230
How often are yours solved by Conservatives?
>>704709103
works perfectly fine for me. i've got free healthcare and free college education. feels good to be middle class european
>>704709246
psychological projection right here folks.
forget your meds today?
>>704709312
>>704709453
keep posting this interracial mmf. Haven't fapped to this shit in a while
>>704709430
Gee you really are triggered
And what are you doing to /b/ if you are so old nigger? Nothin better to do?
>>704707343
Whichever side hates niggers and anyone non-white is the side I am on
>>704709301
I don't have problems.
>>704709552
>psychological projection
sorry but you're not smart :(
your gay XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Conservatives:
deny evolution
deny climate change
ban books
are bigger welfare states (see red states vs blue states)
have higher rates of teen pregnancy
start wars
cut public funding (education, VA, etc.)
are religious extremists
become terrorists
If this is what "growing out of liberalism" means then I'll stay a child, thanks.
>>704709603
>>704707343
25 or 26.
Wake up call was when black Jesus allowed west Africans with Ebola into the country. Bet most people here forgot that.
>>704709312
you really think this will do any damage?
16yo
>>704709533
Great, so you have an inferior health care and Education system and an economy that is probably losing jobs and money. Congrats, enjoy it while it lasts.
>>704709654
since when did we accept that other person fucking your girl and being horny about it isn't a problem?
More realistic version of OP's pic
>>704709711
>>704709523
sorry kid. I work for a living.
>>704709745
wow you're stupid
>>704709525
never needed them to.
>>704709103
>dumb
>run successful public care programs for many decades
>have universal healthcare
The dumb one is you, my friend.
>>704709607
you really are dumb aren't you.
>>704709810
>misunderstood meme word
>vs. openly embraced ideology
rightists confirmed for retarded
>>704709821
selling your asshole for foodstamps on craiglist isn't a job, faggot
>>704709815
What does that even mean? Are we even having an argument about something here? Are conservatives really this stupid?
>>704709711
sure kid. the dumbest of the dumb.
I was a Liberal until about 20 before becoming a Socialist.
>>704709928
Nice triggered come back old man
>>704709519
Looks like we have an edgelord ladies and gentlemen
>>704710003
my comrade <3
>>704709973
Are you really that stupid?
>>704707343
Never? I never started giving a fuck what people do.
If you mean the american "liberalism". I finished elementary, so I know better.
>>704709805
implying what moron. you posted a random porn picture.
>>704709654
>>704709861
"I live with my parents," the post.
>>704709721
Cheers bro, keep posting
>>704709990
>not being a nihilist
how does it feel being fucking dumb
>>704707343
About a year ago. I'm 27
"everyone is a Democrat until they get a little more. Then the come to their senses"
>>704709990
Okay? You didn't refute any of my points, just name calling. Do you know how to have an argument? You don't even have the ability to convince me that you're right and I'm wrong. Why are you even trying?
>>704709711
Your mind is stuck in the 1990s if you thjnk any of that shit is relevant to modern conservatism. You see the pendulum has swung. Its is now Liberals who are the authoritarians. Conservatives just want to be left the fuck alone. People should be able to pursue whatever kind of life they want. Its liberals who want to get in the way. We just don't want big government, is that too much to ask for?
>>704709973
It means you have no grasp on economic reality. And I'm not a conservative :)
>>704708065
This is what retards believe.
>>704710003
>Socialists aren't liberal
liberal is a general term that applies to many political ideologies, Socialism is one of those
>>704709954
you really think you are bothering me kid?
generation fail.
>>704710145
A little money*
>>704707343
15, the moment I discovered /pol/.
>>704710066
How stupid is that? Specify, please.
>>704708065
Really? Funny that the economy does so much better under democratic administrations? Almost you're completely wrong and a faggot, and it's the utter opposite huh?
>>704709519
But they are.
>>704707343
27
about two months ago when i took a good hard look at the democrats and realized they had grown into the party of corruption and big brother type bullshit
the same party that accuses the republicans of all these bullshit not does that bullshit
their sitting there stufifng there faces full of the box of candy marked for everyone and when their called on it they just keep stuffing while screaming "but yeah look over there, he has some of the candy in his pockets too"
to be fair i was always registered as an independent and voted for whoever i felt like
i voted for obama both times but asking me to vote for Hillary is to far
i might vote Trump or i might just stay home, havent decided yet
>>704707343
>How old were you when you grew out of liberalism?
14
>>704710136
why don't you tell me?
>>704707612
Always interesting to see muricans talking about so called "socialism", while their leftist parties, are considered center conservatives around here.
>>704710136
not the anon you're quoting but what's seriously the point of arguing with retards on 4chan of all places? Just sit back, watch the autists argue out their bullshit and wait for the world to burn like Neitzche ultimately couldn't properly describe in his writings.
>>704710145
>until they get greedy and short-sighted
you don't make nearly enough money to benefit from Republican tax plans, I guarantee it
>>704709711
>deny evolution
No. These are (hardcore) christians.
>deny climate change
Just a few.
(It happens by the way, but not only because of humans)
>ban books
No.
>are bigger welfare states (see red states vs blue states)
Can't judge that, not an american. But in my city, some districts with many (not working and welfare collecting) foreigeners voted right-wing because of obvious reasons.
>have higher rates of teen pregnancy
Source?
>start wars
All ideologies start wars.
>cut public funding (education, VA, etc.)
>education
Are you serious?
>are religious extremists
No. I am an agnostic but conservative.
>become terrorists
What is antifa?
>>704709511
>waste of dubs
>>704710197
When was the last time you had pussy old man?
>>704710223
Economy is doing better? We have barely been able to maintain 2% GDP growth you retard.
>>704710152
kid go fuck yourself.
>>704710223
That pic makes no sense when hillary is funded by wall street.
>>704710223
>Funny that the economy does so much better under democratic administrations?
lmao wut? the national debt has gone up by like 10 trillion under democrats in the last decade
>>704710223
sure kid that's why we all in da money right now.
When I realised how many losers are living off my tax money
>>704710292
not really the evolution thing. for one it doesnt have any depth and their is more negatives than positives. reasons why modern scientists do not accept it as a final answer. IE Theory something to be disproven with facts
>>704710003
Kek
>>704708771
In the next 100 years there will be atleast one of this happen
>World War
>Civil War
>Rich enslave poor, Capitalism wins
>Most Countrys unite
>>704710155
>People should be able to pursue whatever kind of life they want
Conservatism as a political and social philosophy promotes retaining traditional social institutions in the context of culture and civilization. Some conservatives seek to preserve things as they are, emphasising stability and continuity, while others, called reactionaries, oppose modernism and seek a return to "the way things were".
>implying modernism let's you live any kind of life you want to
>>704710170
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. Not once did I mention an economic ideology. It's like I make a point, and then people spout random nonsense at me in retaliation. There is literally no argument in this thread. Is this what American politics is like? Just stick to your position and put your head in the sand when someone challenges your preconceived notions? This is absolutely absurd.
>>704709810
Left is for BBC, left is for LGBT
>Left is for cucks
"If you're a Republican before you're 25, you're an asshole. If you're a Democrat after you're 30, you're an idiot."
>>704710170
whatever you are, you're a fucking idiot posting absolute nonsense
>>704710223
americas ten poorest cities would like to have a word with you
all run by democrats
>>704709230
ALOT MORE THAN CONSERVATIVES SOLVE MUCH ANYTHING!
>>704710430
The theories are still theories, so they can't be facts. Also there are different theories and different opinions under scientists.
This has nothing to do with the political world view.
>>704710461
yes
the loudest voice wins, and that's all people care about
>>704710197
no, i think you only get hot and bothered when you aren't hungry. it's the same as saying never, since you're fucking poor. go collect your food stamps you cum gargling faggot
>>704710183
Liberals are centerists. People who mediate and conpromise between the left (socialists) and the right (conservitives).
>>704710323
Again, you're not making an argument. Telling me to go fuck myself isn't going to make me actually go fuck myself. Stop denying reality. You have to deal with me but you are unable to. You know your arguments are shit and you have no validity to back up your point. You are in complete and utter denial. Your ideology is shit and you are shit. You have literally nothing.
>>704710469
cute
if you vote for economic self-interest, 99% of Americans would vote Democrat, and that certainly doesn't change between ages 25 and 30.
>>704710316
>>704710361
>>704710383
>>704710532
You kids are funny. How's high school?
>>704710605
no
that's not the definition of those words and your personal interpretation is absolutely meaningless
>>704710469
WOW youse sound really smart
>>704710323
See Tu Quoque
>>704710619
>thinking you can discuss something on /b/
why don't you fucking discuss it irl faggot
>>704709711
Not to mention anti-weed, anti-change, anti-progress, anything they disagree with is wrong, anti-min. wage, etc.
>>704710795
Why so angry old man?
/b/ is apolitical. Go to /pol/
nobody cares for the 3rd world and there is where you are all going when capitalism crashes
>>704710795
You forgot the trillions in national debt the Democrats have created. Not to mention a democrat form 20 years ago would probably reconsidered a republican by today's standards.
>>704710795
you realize those number are artifically created by america barroing trillions of dollars and pumping it into those sectors right? the second someone collects on a debt or we stop getting spoon fed money from first world countries all that come tumbling down
>>704710914
>/b/ is apolitical
that explains the 457834632876523784655 Trump and Hilary threads everyday
>>704710902
You have no clue what it means to be a conservative then. Keep drinking that media kool-aid you sheep.
>>704710795
>all that growth
>conveniently leaves out the trillions of dollars of debt created by dems and the fact that the american dollar is almost worthless now
wew
>>704707343
I love the irony in this picture
>>704711005
>citation needed
>6th grade level of spelling needed
>>704711005
And the fact that republicans have swung that far right doesn't frighten you?
>>704710452
Right so if someone in my country wants to have their traditional lifestyle. I want them to be able to live that way. Liberals want to change society to the point that people aren't allowed to have the freedom to do what the fuck they want. Like i think people should be able to refuse to make a gay wedding cake if they don't want to. I wouldn't agree with them but because i believe in freedom i'd say let em. A liberal would be calling for prosecution. And thats whats makes liberals authoritarian.
>>704710841
I'll have a discussion about anything I want, wherever I want. It's not my fault the rest of you are completely unable to make any sort of argument to defend your bullshit positions.
>>704707343
Stop making this thread
>>704711005
>the Republicans created
Republicans started the bailout for the economic collapse they caused by deregulating exotic risk speculation. Democrat lead bailouts were repaid with interest while Republicans just shoveled money to banks with no plan for repayment.
Read a book you idiot.
>>704709810
HEYO! Give this man a Cigar! Cause he is SPOT ON.
>>704711305
your graph is so filled with economic ignorance. There never was a surplus fkin moron
>>704711305
And Obama more than doubled. Read a book you idiot.
>>704707343
Never, parents raised me to think for myself. After seeing what Obama did (nothing, he did very little to help our country) and living in a left-wing shithole full of crime and colonial level taxes that keep climbing, I lean more right but embrace left social values because passing laws because of religion is what Muslims do.
>>704710564
lol is this a troll? Look up what a scientific theory is, moron. Something can be a theory AND a fact. Germ theory? The theory of gravity? A theory is just a scientific model. Ladies and gentlemen, behold modern day conservatism.
>>704711373
>too fucking stupid to know what budget surplus is
gg
>>704710731
>>704710795
>>704710495
>>704710286
lol leftists post statistics
>>704707343
>>704707612
>>704708051
>>704708157
rightists get buttmad and start ranting incoherently/"CUCKS!"
this is the political climate in America to a t.
>>704708279
>Instead have a binding allegiance to America
>>704711207
Are you fucking retarded? That is because modern democrats have swung that far to the left.
>>704711414
>Obama
no, it was the Federal Reserve, Obama does not control that. And once again, they were cleaning up a mess that was caused by Republican policies of market deregulation.
Do you watch FOX all day long or something?
>>704711305
The people in charge of Washington aren't in charge of the global economy dumbass. If there's a crash in china you think that has anything to do with whos running the Senate?
>>704710286
so your a great American success story then.
tell us all about it kid.
>>704710292
>These are (hardcore) christians.
Who are almost all conservatives.
>Just a few.
Especially the few that serve in public office
>cut public funding (education, VA, etc.)
>education
>Are you serious?
Yes, very serious. Conservatives are always attacking the school budget.
>>704711613
The crash started in America and was caused by Republican policies of market deregulation.
>>704711469
Trump is going to win weather you like it or not. Trump is America.
>>704711448
So there are many different fact about the same thing?
Even in school you get taught that we don't really know about the origin of mankind.
>>704709810
This anon gets it.
I would put myself somewhere around social democrat/leftist libertarian, but I also am not such a self-absorbed faggot to not cede that other ideologies make some valid points. For example, the conservative ideas of being self sufficient without reliance on support systems are absolutely noble goals for an individual to hold themselves to.
>>704711562
TIL some people actually think that extensive market regulation and government intervention is a good thing. TIL some people truly are retarded.
>>704710307
like that has anything to do with it.
>>704711414
>And Obama more than doubled.
Source. Protip; there isn't one, cause you're wrong idiot.
>>704711217
>traditional lifestyle
the US has always been filled with immigrants so no, there is no pure tradition
>I want them to be able to live that way
what about people away from the US? you don't want them to conserve their own lifestyle? guess what, democrats and republicans have fucked millions of people with their wars, their oil rigs, highway projects, etc.
>Liberals want to change society to the point that people aren't allowed to have the freedom to do what the fuck they want
interpassivity: they don't want to change society, but parts of it. in my opinion this is stupid.
>people should be able to refuse to make a gay wedding cake
i don't think that's important, US liberal politics are stupid and the only thing they do is take your attention out of the REAL troubles
>A liberal would be calling for prosecution
yeah, that's true, because the US is a fucking fascist country and all of you think you live in the "Land of the free". companies, inteligence agencies, the government, they know everything about you, and in any time, they can consider that you are a nuisance and then fucking take you out to the desert and kill you. i don't think being prosecuted for not doing a faggot cake is worse than your state has been doing for like 60 years now.
>>704711750
>weather you like it or not
>like it
>not
>weather
>>704711535
Hillary is a notorious moderate, she started her career as a Republican and is part explicitly moderate political groups that work more closely with Republicans than some Democrats.
Obama was also clearly a moderate, his main work in office was restoring the status quo after Republicans destroyed the economy.
>>704711469
welcome to Anti-intellectualism. The Right in the US has never been big on education, Public education at least. If you're rich enough to afford fancy schooling then thats all well and good.
>>704707343
Hmm that's funny
>>704711744
No shit. But that deregulation started under clinton. There really isn't much difference between the democrats and republicans economically. You might be slightly brainwashed if you think the democratic establishment is left wing (Outside of a few trivial social issues).
>>704710533
English isn't your language is it?
I've lost count of the number of arguments I've won against conservatives. You can't give them facts, they just put their fingers in their ears and go la la la. Their position is so weak and fragile that a gentle breeze can blow it over, which matches their equally weak egos. Which is why they cling to their ideology as if they have nothing else in the world. When they start calling you names, that's when you know you've won the argument (example: every conservative in this thread).
I think that happened when i fucked your mother
>>704711851
It prevented world-shaking economic collapses for 70 years, and then Republicans deleted those laws out of pure greed and the markets collapsed again.
Your black-and-white economic fundamentalism is the most retarded, damaging ignorance our nation suffers.
>>704711613
>Deficits happen during republican administration
Republicans: "That's not our fault! You can't blame us for the world economy taking a downturn!"
>Many lesser deficits happen under democrats
Republicans; "Haha! Democrats are so inept!"
Rightists confirmed hypocrites, retards, or both.
>>704711719
>Who are almost all conservatives.
Thats the same as saying almost every muslim is a terrorist because most terrorists are muslims.
>Yes, very serious. Conservatives are always attacking the school budget.
Over here conservative mainly attack the refugee-budget and and the welfare/unemployment-money-budget.
>>704710619
like you're worthy of an argument. no originality with you kid.
>>704708002
Or not...?
I gave up being a Republican when I realized that the only thing that trickled down was interest payments on the tax revenue shortage the tax reductions created.
>>704711966
Thats not an argument. Look at the polls in Ohio. Trump will be our next president. And what i want to ask you is how are you gonna feel about that come 2017?
>>704711750
Considering illiterate people like you are allowed to vote, he may have a chance, though not a great one.
>>704710731
implying this is true. a thread of stale meme's.
>>704711803
Yes, this is true. The science behind the origin of life is called Abiogenesis. It is a very incomplete model, but we do know some things. We know proteins and acids began to self-replicate, leading to the early precursor of DNA. We know very specific conditions for this had to be met. But there is indeed still a lot we don't know about it. However, you seem to be confusing Abiogenesis with Evolution. Evolution has nothing to do with the origin of life, rather it explains the diversity of species. Evolution is one of the most complete models we have...we know more about Evolution than we do about Gravity.
>>704712074
I'm glad your personal experiences mean so much, especially when you're trying to prove a point on an anonymous board.
But keep posting; a broken clock is right twice a day.
>>704712053
>started under Clinton
no, it started under Reagan, you idiot
You just want to blame Clinton for everything, you haven't even bothered researching shit
>>704710272
bruh whatever "socialism" you have ends in people eating sawdust bread. Fuck off and stay on the other side of our big beautiful wall. #MAGA
>>704708002
That's bullshit, the lefts on the downslope and rightly so it doesn't have answers to questions it created itself.
>>704708926
got any successful examples?
>>704712147
I don't give a shit what conservatives do in your country. In mine its not a matter of prejudiced debate as to high percentage of religious conservatives. Its a very well known voting block that we like to call Evangelical Christians. They almost all unilaterally vote right because the left continually opens up civil liberties for groups the Christians find morally offensive.
This is a political fact in my country. Deal with it.
>>704712168
Sorry my facts are time tested and true. Reality usually has a liberal bias so if it's originality you're looking to argue against, I don't know what to tell you.
>>704712131
Dumbass i never blamed the democrats for that. But if you think the democrats and republicans are any different when it comes to economics. You are simply unaware of what is actually happening.
>>704712269
>US dept. of labor is a meme
>>704710272
>>704712222
Quads has spoken.
>>704712375
Athens
>>704712131
> buying into partisan political support of any type
>>704712286
Still we don't know much about evolution and there are different theories about the origin of homo sapiens, so we can't speak about facts.
>>704712289
There is no trying here, my point has been proven.
>>704712297
>FUCKING REAGAN
God DAMN that fucking man. Every fucking conservative in the country thinks the man is Jesus because he lowered fucking taxes.
He also de-regulated the banks because they had Totally learned their lessons from the great depression. Right? That senile old man is the one responsible for ruining my fucking country.
I'd vote republican just to keep refugees and illegals out. Do we want to become France or Germany
>>704711993
sure kid
>>704712074
arguments you think you won.
fixed it for you sparky.
>>704708691
Claims without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
>>704712226
>I can't into 3rd grade spelling
>please listen to the basis of my argument
Isn't there some Natural Light somewhere that needs drinking? Run along now.
>>704712602
see what I mean? He'd get confused if he used more than two words. If only his parents knew the importance of public education then we might not be in this fucking mess.
>>704712297
I'm a retard, the post.
>>704712297
So if Reagan and Clinton are pretty much the same. Why are you defending the democrats? I mean as far as I'm concerned the democrats are on the right wing of politics. They just say they are liberals and people like you believe them.
>>704712543
This...isn't really true. I'm not sure where you're getting your information but the facts and evidence supporting Evolution are well documented.
>>704712557
He was literally SENILE while in office.
He was a hollow puppet for his corporate handlers, they even stood over his shoulder and prompted him during speeches.
>the ideal Republican
>>704712389
funny, most if no all Catholics vote democrat.
15 or 16-ish kind of.
>>704712408
sure kid. you found something you believe.
I'm so happy for you.
>>704712557
He actually raised taxes.
>>704712860
This is completely fucking false.
>>704712460
retard implying.
>>704708279
>Thinks conservative views or liberal views is a party
If your liberal then your're liberal. If your conservative then your're conservative. If your're a socialist then your you guessed it a socialist. That's your point of view not your party.
>>704712785
the Clintons are economic conservatives but social liberals, making them essentially moderates, which is better than extremism any day. Maybe they're not visionaries, but they are good for the country.
>>704712685
Yes, I think I did win them, and I also actually did win them. Now you're just pointing out the obvious...
>>704712951
Reagan's 1981 cut in the top regular tax rate on unearned income reduced the maximum capital gains rate to only 20% – its lowest level since the Hoover administration.[13}
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reaganomics
>>704709887
LOL "successful"
>>704712997
No they aren't. I swear some people really don't know what the fuck they are talking about.
Never got in, liberals don't understand what "shall not be infringed" means and can't run an affordable economy while conservatives are more likely to deny climate change and think God belongs in the whitehouse. That being said, I'm voting Trump to watch both get triggered.
>>704712943
Belief is useless. You either know something or you don't. Most people believe things without actually knowing anything about them. I am the opposite.
>>704712696
Lol i didn't spell anything wrong in that post. You have no argument and you won't answer a simple question. I just want to know how butthurt you think you are gonna be once trump is president.
>>704713133
How are they not?
>>704713135
I guess I'll just have to listen to the facts and ignore your opinion
>>704712997
Name Hilary's moderate views. Go.....
>>704713133
more successful than American health care
and cheaper too
>>704712829
Its how republicans always vote for canidates. They can't actually judge his polices or shit like that because they lack the fundamental knowledge to understand it.
They instead pick a candidate that is the best at manipulating their emotions so they feel some sort of Bond with him.
>Reagan
>Bush
>Trump
They're all cut from the same cloth.
>He's just as dumb as me!
>>704713122
He raised taxes at the end of the 80s look it up. I think it really dispelles the mythos surrounding Reagan.
>>704713179
Those truly are the worst attributes of both parties/ideologies.
Politics
Poly-Many
Ticks-Blood Sucking Insects
>>704712557
it was better then than it is now kid.
>>704712299
I'm from Germany
>>704712689
what ever kid, you lost. deal with it.
>>704712951
He had higher tax income. He didn't raise taxes, he cut taxes, companies invested, economy grew and more $$$ made so more tax income from less % because more wealth was created
>>704712829
like Clinton was
When liberals became "the man"
If you blindly subscribe to liberal ideology or conservative ideology as if it were a binary choice, then you have no place in having a political opinion.
fuck you fags im voting for Hitler
>>704712973
sure kid
>>704712997
Hillary was against gay marriage for years. Bill expanded the war on drugs. I hated the clintons even back when i was a liberal, because they simply aren't liberals. If you really have principles you shouldn't support the clintons.
>>704710272
Funny, you must not truly understand the current state of U.S. Politics then. Your statement would have been true 8 years ago.
>>704713566
>>704713458
>>704708251
>>704708855
>>704709028
>>704709230
>>704713566
>>704710323
>>704710383
>sure kid
Your debate style is kinda one note dude.
>>704707343
What's wrong with liberalism? You don't like people getting to do what they feel like?
>>704713566
I come from a largely Catholic area, and guess what? The majority of people are very conservative and vote republican. Don't make random claims if you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.
>>704713278
You do know your referring to the budget right? You do know the budget doesn't not equal how conservative or liberal they are right? You also understand the house of representatives passes budgets right ? You know it was led by Newt Gingrich and he is a republican right? And that the president doesn't directly have anything to do with the budget right?
>>704713542
Yeah this is true politics is much more complicated than that. But Americans like to narrow things down to 2 choices. Chevy or Ford, Trump or hillary, blue team, red team.
>>704713740
He didn't say Libertarianism, he said Liberalism.
>>704713576
They were never my choice, I was proud to help Obama beat her. I'll probably vote 3rd party, as I don't live in a swing district of a swing state, but I still think she's way better than Trump.
>>704713405
and you're gonna stay there with the muds
>>704713740
Liberals want to tell people what to all the time. They are hardly liberals anymore.
>2016
>Not being edgy libertarian
For shame anon.
>>704713191
you are fedorable. you know that.
>>704712988
>your're
>twice
what the fuck am i reading
also, ideas don't match to a party/group, the latter matches to a former
>>704712299
kek is among us
>>704713278
where's Obama?
>>704714064
There with the name calling. No other arguments come to mind huh?
>>704713242
Try sitting on a waiting list for 10 days after having a heart attack. That's European health care.
>>704713342
sure kid.
>>704714044
>libertarian
you SAY that, but then you turn around and gobble Republican cock when it actually matters.
Even the Republicans don't respect you because they know they own you and you don't have the balls to stand up to them.
>>704713708
It's a defense mechanism when your core argument isn't very strong. By denigrating your opponent by calling him kid, you break him down in your own mind, which masks your own insecurities and your already-weak-to-begin-with argument.
>>704713960
Now is a good time to vote 3rd party. I think this is the first election in which people have been talking seriously about people like jill stein and gary johnson. I think if bernie ran 3rd party he get lots of votes.
>>704713708
only a tard would think I'm debating.
>>704708406
Agreed
>>704709804
That's a myth, in Canada not only is the "long lines" thing a myth created by the Private insurance companies themselves, spreading it to faux news where politicians spit it out, to change public opinion, creating literal autism, but most of those myths are made by false stats from biased sources paid off from those very companies themselves. Enjoy life with less because you think it's realistic.
>>704713960
Arguably the most corrupt person to ever run for president is better than a business man who is, in reality, a moderate who will end up compromising on most issues? Okay......
>>704708987
I don't like Trump but is he really supposed to look like the chimp ?
>>704714293
Compromise? You mean flip flop.
>>704713782
sure kid.
Left is only solution, fuck you op and fuck all right faggots
>>704714322
Bill Maher made a joke against him saying he looked like that ape, trump sued him for 5 million dollars. He's the real SJW
>>704714174
Anecdotal. And for every example of a deficiency you point out for the European healthcare system, I can point out a hundred for the American. Try dying after having a heart attack, or going into bankruptcy, because you can't afford healthcare at all.
>>704714161
no comprehension. you wonder why I'm not arguing.
>>704714292
Source?
>>704708002
You actually understand.
When you see the political compass threads they are overwhelming liberal ideas.
>>704714210
Huh, oh i am registered as a republican. I think you can get a lot done when you work within the establishment. At least the Republicans give us a platform and allow space for opposing veiws.
>>704713820
>President has no influence over his party
Bush seemed to have a pretty devastating effect.
Being commander-in-chief can be more costly than any amount of legislation. Clinton and Obama were relatively responsible, Republicans just want endless conflict so they can launder money to their private military donors/partners.
>>704714292
OK I can tell you that you are 100% full of it. In Canada they tell you when and where you can have a procedure done. You miss you're appointment, back to the end of the queue. Most things require a decent wait and in many cases depending where you live a significant drive or even flight. Also enjoy 15-17% sales tax
>>704708279
I agree with the party view but that being said the left is being very anti American right now.
>>704714508
Don't diss bush fagot
>>704708002
Actually this.
I consider myself as far right as a lefty can possibly be, but at the end of the day, I lean more left than right.
I'm pro gun control, I'm pro universal healthcare. I don't give two shits about Christianity and why personal believe should affect national politics.
It's sad that the US only has these two groups: Left or right. Because when you count yourself part of one group, you are lumped together with so many people that you have so few opinions in common with.
Americans should step up and differentiate themselves.
>>704707343
Is the guy on the right thinking of all the books he's burned?
I don't really trust the democrats or the republicans, but it's always the republicans that play dirty, with voting district rezoning and sketchy stuff like that. They're the biggest blatant scum bags around, and all their family values bullshit is pure hypocrisy and pandering to an easily manipulated, undereducated voter base.
>>704708558
This
>>704709519
dat strawman doe
>>704714507
>a platform
so everyone can see how thoroughly they ignore you.
great, we know, now stop being a pussy and stand up for your own party
>>704714508
Did you just say Obama was relatively responsible? You are trolling right?
>>704714508
>responsible
>10 trillion in new debt
Pick one
>>704714595
KEK
>>704714486
I'm not wondering anything, I know exactly why you're shitting up the conversation with your banal comments.
>>704714646
Says someone who had a candidate win because of the "easily manipulated, and undereducated" inner cities.
>>704709400
Nope, just need to tie profit and wages.
>>704714508
>bush tax cuts led to deficits
Has nothing to do with spending right? Keep increasing money spent year over year, blame bush for a few tax cuts that have been overturned years ago.
>>704714669
You gotta pick a team though. Red team or Blue team. Even if they are fucking awful and don't care about or have any real ideas or vaules. Plus if they win I'm on the winning team, and no one wants to be a loser, This is America.
>>704714741
funny that's not obammy
>>704707343
Grew out of Liberalism? One of of the very founding principles of the US of A? The notion that man is free and should not be placed under the yoke of tyranny?
Yeah sure, I grew out of that years ago.
I believe that we need a strong leader to tell us what to do. I believe that democracy is for the ancient greeks and that we should round up those questioning authority and shoot them in their smart-ass liberal faces. I believe that we need to shut down any and all places of higher education; they are nothing more than liberal propaganda centers. All students should be forced into forced labour or shot. All academia should be focused on weapons research and methods of crowd control. All media outlets should be state owned and controlled. Any and all journalistic activities questioning the government needs to be shut down.
To crush any liberal thinking we need to also curtail citizen's activities. Curfews are fo course a given; only citizens with legitimate business should need to be out on the streets after nightfall. We also need to limit the amount of liberal ideas that can spread through the internet so we need to block that as well. Unlicensed public gatherings of more than 4 persons will be broken up. Repeat offenders will be removed from their houses and shot in the back of their necks.
We need to round up any left thinking writers and shoot them in the face
We need to round up anyone who believes in equality and shoot them in the face
We need to round up anyone questioning our leaders and shoot them in the face
We need ot round up anyone questioning the status quo and shoot them in the face.
No more progression. No more development. No more coddled left wing idealism regarding individual civil rights or trade unionism.
This is the only way America can survive the coming paradigm shift.
Glad to see my thread is still going strong
Liberals BTFO
>>704715016
modern "liberalism" you fucking idiot.
>>704714604
There are other parties, just don't plan on winning anything major for a while
>>704714741
He Bombed the brown ppl, thats why he was such a good president. We need to bomb them to freedom. Amirite guise??
>>704715016
Alright faggot we can have more conservatism without turning into a literal dystopian fascist autocracy
>>704715066
what is "modern "liberalism"" then?
>>704715122
He doesn't even know.
>>704715016
Nice try. You just copied the liberal playbook
>>704715016
What a fucking strawman.
>>704715028
The only ones being BTFO are butthurt conservatives.
>how old were you
>>704715122
Literally what you just described
>>704715073
>just don't plan on winning anything major for a while
Yeah well, but that's the entire point.
Sure, I can join the local anime club and share my politic ideas there, too. In fact, it would have the same effect as joining those alterntive parties.
But that's not what's gonna get the US out of the cycle that it has been in for decades now.
>>704715122
Not to be confused with modern Libertarianism. Obama is a "liberal" while restricting freedoms, and while trying to have an unconstitutional executive order every other day.
>>704715320
Except if you and everyone else that feels the same way did it would make a difference.
>>704715235
the imagination of children these days.
>>704707343
>>704596323 (You)
It's quite an enoyable field. Being a younger man in this field is really important too because most ornithologists are a older (50+ years). As an ornithologist I have helped discover new species, found many scientific facts about birds, found out about 100s of bird's cognitive ability, and I even study the evolution of birds. I have written many books/panflets and even information for National Parks! It's a very under looked job and I believe many people will enjoy the adventures they have (around the world!) studying birds!
>>704715404
Don't be naive.
>>704715113
No fucking compromises you literal cockroach. It is people like you that is fucking up our country. You can't just cave in to the liberal agenda. Compromises are for weak cunts.
We need to crush liberalism at its root and start building a real fucking nation based on unified strength. The only way to do that is to restrict individual freedom in favour of the wealthy and powerful. They are the ones that should run our country and they should not have to answer to fucking pussies like you wanting to compromise
