Anyone else planning on not voting at all this election?
I can't stand Hillary or Trump, no real change will come no matter who wins anyway.
there won't be any change if Clinton wins
if Trump wins... shit WILL get interesting
The real question is why aren't you voting for Trump?
Hillary might drop out due to health and your choice is a bit easier.
>>703574988
true.
I want to vote for trump for the lulz.
but I also want to vote for clinton, so that i can taste trump-supporters' tears.
>>703575013
Pretty much this people who dont hate both of them are literally retarded
Vote Trump. He is an outsider candidate, a person who has legitimate values to implement on government.
USA needs it.
>>703575097
this
Your vote does not count.
Jeb Bush was the only real canidate
>>703575266
Bullshit, the president has no real power anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgjq4teDig0
>>703575194
well if Hillary drops out, it would be Sanders. and he was out-polling trump in the double digits, everywhere.
>>703575266
you sound as retarded as clinton.
>>703575429
the executive branch of government, which is 1/3 of the government, has the authority to veto bills that are approved by congress. its a huge power.
The decision has already been made well above the voters's paygrade. That's how the 1% tells everyone else to fuck off.
>>703574786
No one gives a fuck about POTUS. It's all about the supreme Court judges. That's why we can't have Hillary win. I mean, unless you want the 2nd Amendment changed to "You must allow your wife to be raped my a Muslim"
>>703574786
Anon, if you hate both of them, either vote 3rd party or write someone in -- real or fictional.
If there are enough protest votes it might motivate someone who would deserve your vote to run in the next election.
If you don't vote for anyone it means you are fine with either.
>>703575429
Obama never got to kill anyone until he got the Nobel Peace prize and the presidency.
>there are actually people who unironically support either candidate
>>703575563
Yes, but now he won't poll so well. "Once Berned, twice shy."
Voting for Bernie. I bet he'll get 5%
>>703574786
hillary fucked up when she messed with GTA. she deserves to wash toilets. vote trump
>>703575853
>Trump and Pence picking our Supreme Court
Shill thread
everyone under this line is being shilled. Please report to >>>/pol/ for further instructions
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>>703575874
Yep!
>>703574786
Hillary will die before then
>advanced parkinsons and respiratory pneumonia
>which kills 70% of parkinsons sufferers
>>703575563
Nah, the Dems would appoint Kaine or Biden as the new nominee
>>703574786
vote for Gary Johnson then, better than not voting at all (looks like you don't care in the statistic, if you vote for a smaller candidate it's a voice against the current election procedure itself)
>>703574786
Vote for gary johnson you fuckwit
>>703574786
you what mate
>>703574786
Is this the new shilling fucker? Now that Hillary is dead inn the water, just keep us from voting at all? GOOD LUCK
>>703576331
Whats a Leppo?
So, that Gary Johnson, huh?
>>703576692
It's a kind of big cat with spots.
>>703574786
Vote for Harambe
He's got 5% in the polls so far
>>703575097
why would I?
>>703576710
Yup. Trump all the way
>>703576710
what's Aleppo?
>>703574786
This election is about if you prefer an incompetent president or a corrupt one. Either way you are fucked, but would you rather be fucked because someone made a mistake or because someone decided to fuck you for their own gain?
1,000,000 Muslims
1,000,000 muslim refugees to come to America.
Hillary has this plan.
Trump will keep then in Europe and the Middle East.
In b4 Trumpfag as am European and don't support either. Seriously though America, don't do it.
>>703576710
What is Aleppo?
>>703574786
please just go in and write Harambe on the ballot
>>703577128
It's a city that was destroyed during the original Crusades.
>>703577326
They will come to America no matter what anyway.
>>703577509
when? where is it?
>>703575230
That's the reason I'm voting trump to taste hillary tears
>>703577469
>>703576710
>>703576331
>>703576263
Kindly see >>703575343
This isn't the 1800's. There will never be a recognized third party
>>703577461
What's the letter C mean on the top of this letter/e-mail
>>703574786
>not voting
You mean voting for a third party, don't you?
They both garbage
If you cant stand either just vote trump, he wont be able to fuck up too much. Doubt congress will let him. All in all id trust him a little bit more in office.
>but dont listen to me im canadian
>>703574786
Gary Johnson.
>>703577705
>tfw 70% of people under the current circumstances would vote for Gary Johnson but won't because they think no one will vote for them, thus wasting their vote..
Trump is just a buzz word spouting meme. Nothing he says will pass. Clinton eh they both suck honestly
>>703575461
The SS people trying to block the view made it so much worse...
And I'm in CA so I'll either vote my conscience with Gary Johnson, or if I think Trump has a chance, I might just vote for him for the lulz.
>>703575013
i like this picture. paints a good picture of both's character.
the difference is hillary is active in corruption and spilling confidential information. Neither are good people, but only one is an actual criminal
>>703574786
I agree
as a fith generation Deplorable i'd just like to say fuck you....from the bottom of my heart.
>>703577665
Isn't this the same as BLM? haha get it guys?!?! am I funny xD
I just found out that pepe the frog is a Nazi white supremacist
I have 6 really rare pepes from years ago. into the trash he goes :(
Will vote for Clinton now.
From my twitterfeed yesterday.
Doonesbury from 1999. Trudeau could see into the future.
Either way, your just voting in investors. It doesn't matter who the figurehead is, just who's paying for them. Look into who's donating and backing their campaign, find out what those investors endgames are, and then make a decision. We all know campaign promises are a lie wrapped in truth. be wary
>>703579375
No, that's Harambe's campaign poster.
The Bureau of Land Management has its hands full with North Dakota at the moment.
>>703580231
Well I do like Coca Cola.
Who are they backing?
>>703575429
The president nominates the Supreme Court Justices. The next president will appoint at least 2 justices.
Hillary has promised to attack the Bill of Rights. Specifically the Second Amendment. She plans to accomplish this by nominating justices that will overturn the Heller decision. Heller upheld that Americans have a right to own firearms for self defense.
One thing not often mentioned is that many Americans believe that the repeal of the Second Amendment is THE SIGNAL THAT THE REPUBLIC HAS FALLEN AND THAT IT IS TIME FOR WAR TO RESTORE THE REPUBLIC.
Hillary Clinton presidency equals civil war.
I know that sounds edgy but it is something you should look into.
Your vote means more than you know, don't waste it.
>>703580776
Best Post
>>703580776
> IMPLYING I DONT WANT CIVIL WAR
>>703574786
Vote third party, you dumb nigger. I'm voting for Gary
Inb4 Aleppo meme. Bonehead Trump and Felon Hilary aren't any smarter. At least Gary seems like a fucking human being
>>703581946
Have you seen this? He doesn't look very good here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xlmU9LvtAs
>>703581946
>At least Gary seems like a fucking human being
>>703581946
You realize that our election system is FTPT, right?
>>703582707
>FTPT
FPTP, I mean.
>>703574786
Well not voting isn't really a solution.
Why don't you think about the worst possible scenario for both candidates.
Trump wins: Leans on congress to make life easier for his business partners, potentially causes mutual disrespect between the U.S. and Muslim countries and Mexico, which wouldn't affect anything, disrespectful and hurtful social justice warriors and feminists told to shut up and have some respect, and starts three new reality television shows.
Hillary wins: Your freedom of speech evaporates, anything that's not a bolt action rifle is banned, Fourth and Fifth amendment rights rescinded on the grounds of collecting guns, NSA Utah Data Center finally given full government support and begins cataloguing every conversation that's taken place in the last 8 years, socialist healthcare expanded (more taxation and tax penalties are forced), liberals and social justice warriors are given more credence in order to prosthelytize without shame, possible World War III caused by dementia, Brain Slugs from Universe 2 now have a foothold in high government and begin implantation of lesser castes.
Funny how these threads die right after posts start making sense.
What no response CTR faggots?
I wrote in once and I'l write in again.
>>703576253
True, but I don't think it'd be a smart move. Say what you will about Sanders, it would be clear he would easily win if nominated given the bar lowered by Hillary. Course that's not the type of person the dnc really wants to run for them.
>>703575097
Don't want to be in a war
>>703584049
Brain Slugs kek.
>>703584769
>has expressed interest in nothing other than national strength, preventing illegal immigration, returning business and respect to America
How's that lead to war again? I forget, since Switzerland, Luxembourg, Canada, Norway and Japan haven't had the problem recently.
>>703584769
War with who? America's biggest threat is Russia and Trump is trying to decrease tensions with Putin. Hilary is insulting him non-stop and accusing him of things with no evidence like hacking the DNC and rigging the election. Who again is more likely to start WW3?
>>703585238
You forgot about pissing off the world's second largest religion. Not that the world wouldn't be a better place without muslins, but if I get drafted into the infantry to make that happen, no thanks.
>>703584769
You need do some research anon. Turn off the tv, visit the candidate web sites, watch a couple of speeches.
The truth is out there but the main stream media is making it difficult to find.
>>703585904
You're probably right, but i don't think I can take my chances with someone without political experience. Whether he intends to or not, he's going to fuck something up with his inexperience and I'll have to learn to operate a standard issue.
>>703585701
>they dont own boats
>they dont own airplanes
>they cant walk across the aleutian chain
>they export nothing but oil, which we have in abundance in texas and alaska
Why is this a problem again?
Vote local for issues that actually affect you, fuck the presidential race
>>703586368
The experienced politicians are the ones that got us to where you are today.
There have been opportunities to put the terrorists down for good, but the experienced politicians didn't do it.
There hasn't been a draft since the early 70's. I would not base important decisions on the extremely remote possibility of being drafted.
And last thing a criticism. Why do you think you should not fight for freedom if needed? America is a free country due to the sacrifices of others before you.
>>703586368
>i don't think I can take my chances with someone without political experience
That's not a decision you are allowed to take. George Soros and friends have made it for you.
Spend your energies in your own garden. The more organized people get at the grass-roots level, the more political power they can send farther upstream. As they liked to say in the 1960s, "if the people lead, the leaders will follow."
Vote Gary Johnson. Fuck Aleppo anyways.
You want change you'd better vote third party. Shake it up.
>>703589367
>wasting a vote
Fuck off.
>>703588424
This guy gets it.
The question voters have to ask themselves is why are greedy billionaires spending several hundred million dollars to get a candidate in office.
One thing to note, George Soros has stated publicly that he daydreams about being a god.
I haven't voted in 20 years. Not on a Federal, State, or even Local level.
I don't plan to start now.
>>703584049
Trump wins: We as a country deal with George W. Bush level gaffes on the international stage. Wall is not built. Obamacare is altered slightly and rebranded. Nothing really changes but the comedians get an easy ride for four years.
Clinton wins: Obamacare is not changed. Clinton pushes for bills that secretly insert favors to wall street; we don't notice the repercussions for years.
War I think is equally likely with both candidates.
>>703574786
ACTIVELY POSTING/LURKING 4-6 HOURS ON /b/ DAILY AND NOT VOTING 2016?
>"Fuck off all you Hill shills and you Trump chumps. Vote none of the above."
>"I'm just not going to vote at all this election."
>"It's a waste of time, especially when shitheads are running"
>"I won't vote out of noncompliance with a broken, fundamentally corrupt and laughably ineffective system."
>"On principle I don’t want any of them to win."
This isn't even CorrectTheRecord or people shilling cuck-faggory for Gary Johnson, BUT THESE PEOPLE REALLY, HONESTLY MEAN THEY AREN'T GOING TO VOTE DUE TO BOTH CANDIDATES BEING BAD? What low subscriber, bottom tier media trap did these goyim fall into? ARE you people posting this crap actively following this election it's been going on for almost
>1.5 YEARS
what the fuck, is this your first time voting and your some public school D+ student failure dropout living off mommy and daddy justifying your failure by blaming it on the government? Why are you on this board everyday and why are you shill-FORCING voting abstinence in what is expected to be the BIGGEST VOTER TURNOUT
>CBSNEWS - "GOP's record turnout"
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/what-do-the-voting-turnout-numbers-say-about-the-2016-presidential-race/
>pewresearch - "17.6%^ highest of any year since at least 1980"
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/03/08/so-far-turnout-in-this-years-primaries-rivals-2008-record/
Are you done being edgy? What are you going to tell your grand-children when they ask you who you voted for in 2016, a massive landslide election that defined the future of America until 2040. Oh wait, you won't have any grand-children. You'll never have any kids. you'll just sit there, slowly dying a virgin posting edgy shit till the very end. Oh yeah, you're a really savvy political wizard aren't you. You figured it all out. You know the key to all of this
>>703589272
It's amazing he didn't know what Aleppo is and it completely disqualifies him as a legitimate candidate... I even donated $15 to his campaign to stick to Clinton/Trump.
>>703580776
wait, you mean if hillary becomes president we get to start killing the "but muh guns" crowd? fuck yeah, why didn't you say this sooner?
#ImWithHer
>>703589367
The third party candidates are polling so low it is unlikely that any one of them could get a single electoral vote.
They could however effect a close race in a battleground state.
In previous elections convincing disaffected voters to vote third party has been an important campaign strategy.
I suspect that this will be a CTR talking point soon.
>>703590836
Sit down and shut up the adults are talking.
>>703576196
>Hillary with launch codes and a military.
>>703590093
Perhaps you did not think it through. If Gary has your $15, who did you stick it to?
>>703589968
I like your rage anon.
at least voting for trump attempts to fight off the social marxist/BLM/illegal immigrant/SJW leftists
You can still vote in downballot elections even if you leave the president section blank. Some of those can have more of an effect on you than the presidential elections, like local elections and state constitutional amendments. For example, some states will be voting to legalize medical or recreational marijuana.
>>703574786
As a European I can say that Hillary looks more like one of our cuck leaders, Merkel at least was good for the economy in the beggining, Hillary won't be. Trump has no real policies that I can see, but he is what I imagine Americans to be like 100%. He can just fucking wing it and it will still work out. He is telling the truth on most things, just without the bs. I mean just Germans have a million of refugees. That million is more than enough to wipe out whole Africa from isis twice over with fucking sticks.
Im still voting for Bernie. Idc what people say, Im writing him in
>>703578267
Nigga, noone even knows who he is. He is propped up by nevertrumpers and Illary shills to split the vote.
>Also, nice job CTRing, loser
>>703593892
you are weaponized autism
>>703593640
A voter could leave the presidential section blank OR do some homework and make a decision. There is a clear choice as to who should be president. Voters just have to educate themselves.
I can save lazy voters the trouble though, it's Trump.
>>703593290
Don't be so sure. That's just a mask Fearless Leader puts on to court the vote from the shallow end of the gene-pool. He's part of the Clintons' circle and he's donated to their causes.
>>703589968
8/10. Thank you, your copypasta has been processed
MAGA 2016
>>703594448
Your vote does not matter at the national level. You've been outbid.
>>703594614
no shit he's donated to them and many other politicians. that's what the rich do, they buy politicians
>>703593815
Merkel's party just got hammered, so she's on her way out.
Looks like inviting millions of vagrants to Germany wasn't a very good idea.
>>703580776
was on fence, but will vote Hillary now. If SCOTUS says the 2nd Am doesn't work the way you think, then it doesn't. Who says? The fucking Constitution that's who. It says the SCOTUS decides what the 2nd Am means, not you.
That, and i'd love to watch you gun nuts get wiped the fuck out live on CNN when you try to pull that "revolution" crap and overthrow the government with your stupid guns.
>>703576710
its amazing that he already completely ruined his chances after only a few days of being in the spotlight
I'm voting for the memes. Make memes great again! Deport Tumblr, Reddit, and 9Gag from the internet!
Yeah, Gary Johnson is such a far cry from both Trump and Clinton that it'd be a shame to waste your vote by not voting at all. If I had a dollar for every time I heard someone say they aren't voting cuz they don't like both options, I'd have like... 30 dollars.
>>703593815
>>703574786
Your vote never really mattered anyways
/shrug
>>703594953
>was on fence, but will vote Hillary now
They must pick you guys because you are relentlessly stupid. Nigga, she died yesterday
>>703595225
>People still thinking their vote mattered
>Not knowing what the electoral college is.
The electoral college only goes with your vote if the person you choose wins the state vote in a landslide. Otherwise, it's up to those people. Doesn't anyone watch Adam Ruins Everything?
>>703594786
Your vote does matter at the national level. What do you think the campaign money is spent to buy?
It will be an awesome thing to show all of big money donors that they can't buy the election.
>>703574786
Gary Johnson you mong!
It won't have direct effects, but if 3rd party gets a sizable %age, then that will have influence for the next one
and the next one
>>703574786
I'm going to write in vote Bill Nye the science guy
>>703575252
can you explain why I should hate trump without quoting MSM canards?
>>703595085
loled
>>703595792
You do realize he's not a scientist, right?
>>703595792
>Every single presidential address he comes onto screen to his theme song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtVJdPfm0F8
>>703595337
no, that's just what they want you to think. she has the Super AIDS.
>>703587918
>experienced politicians didn't get rid of terrorism
I think it's naive to think though that because one group didn't succeed, that somehow another group will. It's entirely as probably that the second group will fail worse than the first.
>Gonna fight for muh freedom
Then you haven't seen war.
To be honest, no one really has in a long time and every few decades it's like we need to be reminded of just how fucked up war is.
>>703575361
Jeb Bush is a mess
>>703575361
Pls clap.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUiIy_T40g0
>>703595681
>What do you think the campaign money is spent to buy?
A third of the price of each tube of toothpaste is spent on making you want to buy it.
The chads will always hang the way the folks at the top want them to hang.
>>703595740
The last third party candidate to get a sizable vote was Ross Perot. He got about 30% of the vote and not a single electoral vote. He did however insure Bill Clintons victory.
In my opinion Perot would have been a great president. He did foretell the economic crisis about to befall America.
Did it change anything about the stature of third parties in national politics? No.
>>703596653
So what you're saying is that you believe Radical Islamic Terrorism is an unsolvable problem. I disagree.
I agree that war is ugly. However if another group decides that they will not accept peace, what choice do you have?
>>703574786
Not voting is the faggot's answer. At least vote third party.
>>703574786
vote for trump if you can't decide. he's the better candidate to change things for the better
>>703596653
It's naive to think that government wants to get rid of terrorism. Government invented terrorism.
Before terrorists there were Communists. Before that, there were Socialists and Wobblies. Before that, anarchists. Each generation of Big Brother needs his Emmanuel Goldstein.
Anyone who believes that terrorists are the enemy has been distracted by a very manipulative government.
>>703578667
>actual criminal
lives are lives and dollars are dollars and both candidates have stolen both lives and dollars
trump is not savvy enough to transfer power cleanly, that is the only thing that makes him a preferable candidate
>>703574786
>>703575013
>>703580476
pic related
>>703576710
>Gary Johnson
Wants to place far less restrictions on corporations.
Yeah... no thanks.
>>703584049
Spitting out her soylent green like a bad little bitch
>>703598887
I hear you. Military Industrial Complex.
All I can say is that there is no chance of change unless citizens force it to change. It can be done.
It's disheartening to see all of the defeatism in this thread. "It will never change so why try?" If you believe that, you will be proven right. And your masters own you forever.
>>703596226
Solution------1-800-rent-a-crane
>>703598887
TRUTH
>>703580476
This picture makes me want to vote for Trump. Just knowing that the person who made that image would lose their shit would give me more satisfaction than having an actual competent president (not that I think Hillary is a good choice or even competent). Gary Johnson is the only good choice but there is no possible outcome where he wins.
Not that my vote matters. My state is bluer than the hooker's corpse in my attic.
>>703598571
The only reason you give is that we shouldn't be faggots. But elections are just a lot of pomp and circumstance, a lot of sound and fury, put on to sway the masses into believing they really have a democratic voice in what is inherently an oligarchic formality. Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.
>>703588716
I'm not against people supporting someone who accurately represents them. I'm against people thinking Hillary and Trump accurately represent them.
They are both terrible. Everyone I talk to seems to only focus on the negatives of one side. Its like arguing over whether or not we should light ourselves on fire while bathing in gasoline or use a potato peeler to remove all of our skin and then bath in gasoline.
>>703574786
I'm voting for Gary Johnson, but he needs better memes
>>703600578
Accurate. How can he win if I haven't seen a single Johnson meme?
>>703599871
Change begins at home. "Il faut cultiver notre jardin" said Voltaire.
The stuff beyond our reach has already been rigged by people who have, quite literally, a million times more money that we do. A million of us can outbid them *but* those million must be in agreement. That doesn't happen while playing Pokemon Go or Netflixing-and-chilling.
>>703578667
>the difference is hillary is active in corruption
As opposed to Trump and his ties to the mob/ attempting to bribe gaming commissioners/illegal business practices?
>only one is an actual criminal
FYI Trump has been found guilty of numerous crimes. He also regularly settles out of court in an attempt to avoid lengthening his already fairly impressive list of legal issues.
>>703574786
This man needs memes stat
>>703574988
/thread
>>703600525
Yes! And the DNC ward-heelers who showed up late in this thread seem to think it's our sacred duty to choose between those two disgraceful sociopaths.
Please stop chanting Johnson and ignoring Stein. Neither is a viable alternative.
>>703600644
meme magic is real.
Guns and Weed. That's my America.
>>703600868
I will see your Stein and Johnson are sociopaths, and raise you a Hillary is a psychopath.
>>703600868
Jill Stein is pathetic. The only thing she has ever been elected to is town hall. At least Johnson was a Governor for 8 years.
>>703575013
If I say mean words, the internet people will change their minds!!!
>>703575097
fucking protectionism kills economies, and we dont need that shit after what Obama and Bush have done.
>Voting Johnson.
>>703601594
Sorry, what I meant was that the two official candidates are both sociopaths and that the two (hopefully non-sociopathic) alternatives are empty gestures.
Bernie was the only candidate with a chance at third-party success, but then he turned into a sell-out. I wonder what Mme Secretary offered him to withdraw.
>>703577537
If bad things happen no matter what and delaying them is not worth it, then go kill yourself.
coughcoughcough BERNIE SANDERS
coughcoughcough VERMIN SUPREME
>>703574786
Vote third party. The more votes they get the more representation they will have in future elections
>>703602315
If the changes we fear be thus irresistible, what remains but to acquiesce with silence, as in the other insurmountable distresses of humanity? It remains that we retard what we cannot repel, that we palliate what we cannot cure.
– Samuel Johnson: Preface to the Dictionary
>>703602431
Tell that to the Bull Moosers.
>>703602518
bull moosers were fucking progs anyway, both parties absorbed their platforms.
>>703579792
No, Trump ran for president briefly in 1999 as a Reform Party candidate.
>>703574786
Not voting is the worst.
Do this:
>>703577469
You know his tally's going to be on the news.
>>703574786
I'm glad there are other people who won't vote for either one. They are both terrible.
We need civil war in the us it's the only way enough people will wake up to make a difference. I only feel sry for the children
>>703575343
This
>>703600400
You have power, your power is just so infinitesimally small that it seems impossible to observe. It is there, however. When everyone thinks like you do, only those who assert their power over the system will win.
>>703582509
"technically yes"
lol People love sucking this guy's dick, but he really isn't great.
Libertarians are fucking nutjobs.
>>703602799
and statists love being fucked by the government.
>>703576150
What'd she say about Grand Theft Auto? Those games are fucking great.
>>703602484
How do we tell what change is irresistible but to apply our greatest effort until we reach our very limits?
>>703602562
And yet the Rothschild World Bank won out.
>>703602692
>We need civil war
>>703577791
>not voting = voting
Are you serious?
>>703574786
Vote for Jill Stein instead of not voting.
Promotes 3rd party candidates
>>703602972
You know what's fucked up is there's enough people with the attitude of "civil war" but it's like half a million people with a collective IQ of 80 so regardless we're gunna see some dangerous times.
What happens when an autist gets pissed and is too stupid to articulate why? He shoots up a school. Or a theater. Or whites. Or college kids. Or niggers in a church. Etc
>>703602971
lol, one of these guys.
>>703602679
Most ballots with write-in votes are discarded *in their entirety* because the voter made "a distinguishing mark" on an otherwise anonymous ballot.
The rules change from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, but generally speaking only properly authorized write-in candidates will be tallied. Otherwise Mickey Mouse would have won back in the 1960s.
>>703598571
Vote for Stein? I would. I would so fucking fast, but her stance on vaccines like they aren't to be trusted and encouragement of homeopathy are just fucking stupid.
Anti-intellectual horseshit like that is goddamn offensive to mix in with a party that generally has a really good fucking platform.
If they would just tweak their platform to care more about science, you know, since global warming is a big deal for them, I could vote for them without concern.
And I'm going to make sure my vote goes against Trump to a meaningful candidate. Voting third party will do absolutely nothing except keep me from effectively voting against someone that I sincerely dislike.
>>703602961
I'd say that the cynical insistence on choosing between $hillary and Mein Drumpf has exceeded my limits. The national stage is beyond my reach: it is a rich man's show.
>>703575230
You'll taste your own tears as the welfare dependents outnumber the taxpayers. It is a plan of HRC to increase the amount of Syrian 'refugees' 5 times.
And that's about all you'll be tasting as your hip urban liberal home eats itself alive without grocery stores being stocked.
>>703603227
Look into Andrew Jackson's attempts to keep the Bank of the United States out of foreign hands. This was really a pivotal point in US history.
I don't know how easy this will be to find, but an excellent monograph on the subject is "Jackson versus Biddle; The Struggle over the Second Bank of the United States" edited by George Rogers Taylor (D.C. Heath & Co., Boston, 1949).
>>703604182
there shouldn't be a bank of the united states, or a fed.
it gives too much centralized and easily corruptable power to the currency.
>>703604042
Clinton, Stein, even Johnson want to increase immigration.
Trump is the only answer but even he's starting to puss out. We're doomed.
>be ausfag
>want trump to win to watch america burn
>>703575461
definitely something up with Hillary. possibly just a side effect from being a woman.
regardless do we want her to be like this when she is meeting Putin or whoever she'd meet in China?
>>703604426
you asshole
>>703602692
>We need civil war
You do realize the government has technological superiority, a standing army, and near limitless resources.
The American public has fuck all.
No you're not going to be able to just put sticks in your hair and run into the woods with grandaddy's shotgun. Life isn't a movie.
>>703603160
This.
>>703604042
Ah yes, meanwhile glorious N̶o̶r̶t̶h̶ ̶K̶o̶r̶e̶a̶n̶ ̶d̶i̶c̶t̶a̶t̶o̶r̶ American president Trump will cure all of societies ills.
>>703604308
Only to fiat currency. In Andrew Jackson's day, currency was silver and gold, paper was promissory notes, and the banks took a variable commission when converting notes into specie.
In any event, the problem has been that the corruptibility you are concerned about is better managed within the sovereign country than among international capitalists. When the central bank belongs to the people, debasement of the currency is tantamount to treason.
>>703604395
Everyone has a different idea about where the borders should be.
I would rather not have any borders. But that would require a morality upgrade.
>>703574786
Trump has no differing stances from Ted Cruz now. He went from anti-establishment centrist to hardcore establishment right wing as soon as he got the nomination. Too bad he was a prick to the Koch brothers cuz he's missing out on free money and he wouldn't have to change any of his newly adopted positions.
>>703580476
Nice use of buzzwords.
Overused, tired, meaningless buzzwords.
>>703602431
It doesnt work like that, negro. We all know the two party system is jacked but we just have to deal with it
>>703604862
>Nice
>buzzwords.
>Overused
>tired
>meaningless
You are learning, young padawan. Soon you will be able to make it sound convincing.
>>703595085
Le epic strawman XD
>>703605023
Drawn with genuine digital straw made in USA.
>>703604631
Haha you actually think the Army, Air Force, Navy, or Coast Guard would attack the same people they swore to protect? Not to mention there are over 300 million people in the US. Do you realize that there are also veterans that aren't old as dirt? The internet literally allows you to make anything, especially when you have someone from every job field. Then you have hackers, which the government can't stop. It seems fairly even to me, if not in our favor.
>>703575230
>>703600753
not true. nothing will change. go ahead and vote and just watch. fucking morons.
>>703605127
Ayup.
http://www.history.com/topics/vietnam-war/kent-state
And, currently, what do you suppose has been going on in places like Ferguson?
>>703574786
I'm voting for Trump so Hillary will have less of a chance of winning. Besides, I like being deplorable.
>>703605127
rofl
you gun nuts vastly over-estimate your numbers.
just remember that city slicker jimmy who's flying that drone 2 miles away gives zero fucks about you or you family when he puts a missile in the window you're looking out of with your ar15
>>703604395
>muh immigration boogeyman
Explain how immigration is bad without using graphics from /pol/
>>703604631
Seriously. The Civil War was so effective because of the technology and resource distributions of early America. Since then, the government has developed such that Americans as a people would have zero actual chance of a successful rebellion.
The southern states wanted to secede, right? Since geographically there was a way for them to do that, it made more sense.
Now, it's just fucking randos thinking they can handle the government.
These are typically the same fuckers that believe "America is the greatest country on earth." Yeah? You believe that? Then why the fuck do you think you can rebel just because the country has gotten away from what you see to be its core values.
Having "lost its way", as they see it, does not mean that our government lacks the resources and man power to easily put down any serious rebellion.
It's not practical. Do people really think that they'd just storm the whitehouse and rub their dicks on the president's desk until the refugees can't come in our country no more?
Jesus Christ. There is no goddamn way we can make a difference in terms of trying to match them in violence. "I need my guns so I can rebel properly." Yeah, use your fucking semi-auto piece of shit. The drone strikes won't kill you and your whole fucking family.
>>703605339
You're assuming that the military and all military personnel will blindly fight for the government in the case of large scale rebellion.
That is a faulty assumption.
>>703605258
I don't think if you went at it the right way they would attack us. You can't trash businesses and expect no retaliation. Also even if they were dumb enough to attack, every other point still stands. We could make the dreaded IED's and roadside bombs they hate.
>>703605339
That's not Skynet, John Connor, that's the United Snakes of America!
>>703576710
He's by a wide margin the most honest person with more than 5% in the polls. I'm voting for him on principal. I know he has no chance but it's better than giving my vote to the others.
>>703574786
Voting for trump cause shit will be interesting as fuck. Vote Trump for kek or gtfo.
>>703605305
I'm not a gun nut, I don't own one. Also everyone could buy a gun and those numbers would be very real. Just remember that hacker who was bored and wanted to do something could break into the system. He could have a field day. You are the one that underestimates our ability to defend ourselves.
>>703605444
I think that people in the military would realize before anyone else how stupid it would be to rebel.
Even if the individuals in the military went against the rest of the military, they would lack the resources to rebel.
People in the military would understand how futile it would all be. Sure, some would stick with the rebellion, but how would that even get organized?
Going to make posts on /pol/ about it? The information age means we can easily send out info to people, but it also means that every fucking thing we say can get tracked and traced. You think we have the ability to organize in such a manner to topple the organization of the military?
There are so many reasons why this wouldn't work.
>>703605339
Kek
>We can do this with words and votes
>Government hasn't listened to either for more than a decade
>We don't need to get rid of people that are corrupt
>The second amendment holds no value in todays times
>Is living in the exact circumstances our forefathers were trying to prevent
>>703604549
She'll probably die in office or become to sick to take presidential power at some point during her term if she gets that far. I honestly dont give a fuck who wins, but i'd rather Hillary die and give it to some no name fucko then either of them be president for the whole term.
Voting Trump all the way hardcore to the end of the race. If lil seizures wins, it will be a tragedy. Donald will rule with a pair and bring America back to being respected.
>>703574786
Trump wants to bankrupt the United States, and Hillary wants to let 50,000 Syrians in. Fuck em both.
>>703605758
You do realize that there are only a few people in "power" and the rest of those people that make up the infrastructure of the military industrial complex are just regular people, right? The "government" is not an autonomous body. It's made up of hundreds of thousands of people working together to make it stand on its own. If even half of those people jump shit, it stops working, effectively creating anarchy. In that world those in "power" have no power.
>>703605988
Attack On Titian that shit up my main man, WHY NOT BUILD 3 WALLS!!!??!?!?
>>703605758
You act like we couldn't just hold a vote and put people right in their place. Just people who actually give a fuck and aren't greedy
>>703605899
We can't do it with words and votes. I'm not saying that we can handle our issues with the government diplomatically.
I don't think we can handle those issues at all.
We don't get a say. Words will do nothing. Violence would get people slaughtered.
I don't think we have options. I think we're just fucked.
>>703605127
>you actually think the Army, Air Force, Navy, or Coast Guard would attack the same people they swore to protect
Yes they would. The first thing the military does is break you into an order following machine. There are literally hundreds if not thousands of historical examples of the military massacring it's own citizens.
Don't think it could happen in the US? How about the Kent State shootings?
>Do you realize that there are also veterans that aren't old as dirt?
And why would they be any more sympathetic to your cause than active personnel?
>The internet
Would go down/become restricted quickly. Again, this is not something new. Also utility service would be cut or targeted in the initial phases.
>>703605674
>everyone could buy a gun
Not anything close to military hardware. No (or limited) means of production of armaments as well.
>>703605320
More people more competition, higher housing costs, denser populations, over crowded freeway systems, lack of jobs, poverty, over crowded health care systems, worker exploitation, crime.
ITT libcucks btfo hahahahaha
>>703606146
So just stay in a shit hole that really isn't even America anymore? People will get tired of this shit eventually, just a matter of when. Right now no one has the balls, but if they do have the balls they worry they won't have enough people to back them up. Then they would just be considered terrorists and either killed or jailed. Just need a lot of people.
Hurr durr gary Johnson is not presidential material
Trump wins- he abandons yuropoors and "eastern pivot" allowing for russia to ravage europe some more un-deterred. he probably will try to build the wall but no way the funding will go through, and well he'll be shitty with all his policies and wont get a second term. also he should be worried about el chapo escaping. theres a price on trumps head.
Hillary wins- well on top of another possible war, there will probably be a fucking civil war ravaging the states because she thinks she can go ahead and take guns and freedom of speech away. not only that but i mean...she'll be in office with pneumonia, Parkinson, possible std and brain damage. that sounds like a fucked up presidency
>>703606591
>Hillary will take away freedom of speech.
The amount of stealth Trumpcucks in this thread is too damn high.
>>703606549
The standard of living here is far better than you'll find in most countries. It's not a shit hole. Despite all of the reasons why we're fucked in dealing with the government, this country has a ton to offer people.
There's a lot that Americans have that other people don't. We lucked out. I'm not really patriotic or anything, but I recognize the huge advantages in life I have because I'm an American.
There are ways to fix your lives rather than going to war with the goddamn USA.
>>703606351
My internet sucks, so I can't even check the shit you're talking about with the Kent State. Your assumption is that every military person is just an automatic fuck face that want to kill Americans. Which is completely false. If someone told you to kill someone else would you do it? Hopefully not, but the point is that the people actually doing the fighting are just citizens. They just wanted to serve, that's the only difference. Look at the Bundy Standoff. They stood up to the government and the government backed down. You can make them back down.
>The internet
You do realize that the people that make the articles online.....are actual people who know how to make it. So even without the internet, the knowledge is still there.
>everyone could buy a gun
You need to look at all the bat shit crazy heavy duty AA guns and stuff some people have.
>>703606393
More labor, competition is good, the US is large enough to accommodate higher populations (most densely populated areas are large cities) more roads can be built, or public transportation can be utilized more (more labor) more jobs because of expansion, less poverty because more jobs, more hospitals and doctors (more labor, expansion) worker exploitation is unfounded, crime is unfounded.
>>703607068
Sounds like you want to turn the US into India.
>>703606903
I don't mean shit hole as in living conditions, I mean as in the government constantly fucking on us and making things progressively worse. How to fix corrupt America that doesn't care about it's citizens. I would love to see the solution. We won't be fixed until the big money stops and we actually get a human being in there. Someone that cares about where they are doing to the citizens
>>703607135
Yeah, except India was never the US and turned into India because of immigration you fuckin dipshit.
>>703606896
we we people great we people we great people america we
>>703607216
And I agree with you completely. I'm just really pessimistic. I don't think it's really going to happen. At least not for a long time.
>>703594953
You'll be dead long before that edge lord. America goes into revolt and people go hungry in two weeks
>>703605981
i doubt she's so ill that she won't live 4 more years though
>>703607309
The only option I see is to literally force them out of office and put good people in there. Then make a law that prevents big money from ever getting back in. I do agree that if it does ever happen, it won't for a long long time.
>>703607043
Actually it's YOUR assumption that I think "every military person is just an automatic fuck face that want to kill Americans."
I know for a fact that military trains you to shoot unarmed (including children) civilians. It's all too common with the current situation in the middle east. pic related
>I can't even check the shit you're talking about with the Kent State.
A bunch of US National Guardsman killed unarmed civilians protesting the Vietnam war.
>Bundy Standoff
>the government backed down
No they didn't. All involved have been detained and have all been charged with the following federal felonies:
Conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States – maximum penalty 5 years' imprisonment, $250,000 fine
Conspiracy to impede and injure a federal law enforcement officer – 6 years, $250,000 fine
Assault on a federal law enforcement officer – 20 years, $250,000 fine
Threatening a federal law enforcement officer – 10 years, $250,000 fine
Use and carry of a firearm in relation to a crime of violence – 5 years minimum, life sentence maximum, and consecutive
Obstruction of the due administration of justice - 10 years, $250,000 fine
Interference with interstate commerce by extortion - 20 years, $250,000 fine
Interstate travel in aid of extortion – 20 years, $250,000 fine
>even without the internet, the knowledge is still there.
With little means of disseminating that knowledge.
>bat shit crazy heavy duty AA guns and stuff some people have.
You'd need far more than the few of these that exist in citizen hands. Also, again you're assuming that the person with said hardware would be sympathetic to your cause. Again limited means of production of ammunition renders said weapons useless rather quickly.
>>703608035
Well, either way, we'll find out eventually and people will hopefully not have to have discussions like this anymore.
Until then, take care. I have shit to do.
>>703574786
feel my johnson
not of fan of libertarians, but i'm voting for gary johnson
>>703607523
From the shit i've seen shes got some serious brain issues, enough to give simple partial seizures, i really hope she dies but who know the old bitch might live to ruin more lives.
>>703608506
rich people always live too long
>>703608776
Too true.
>>703606005
This country is all ready bankrupt. almost 20 trillion in debt. Trump cant stop the default, no one can.
>>703595552
>>703595740
>>703603604
You have no actual reason to dislike trump, unless you are a cuck, or get too much media
>>703609933
You can't seriously believe that a person has "no actual reason to dislike" anything. Christ, that's stupid.
You realize that humans are complex, right? We aren't all products of the same experiences. We all have enough variations in our lives to offer different perspectives.
If i could vote I'd vote for Trump then sit back and watch the fireworks from downunder.
>>703609933
Reasons to not like Trump.
- He's a egomaniac.
- A bigot.
- He flip-flops as much as Hillary.
- As big of a (if not bigger) crook than Hillary.
- He's against freedom of speech.
- He's a hypocrite.
- Zero political experience.
You have no actual reason to LIKE Trump, unless you're a cuck, or get too much media.
