anyone else here dealing with serious gender issues?
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Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
anyone else here dealing with serious gender issues?
>>703475771
like what?
>>703475771
there is no such thing, if you don't like being your gender just kill yourself
>>703475908
really constructive
>>703475841
like wanting to be a girl
I know I do with all my heart
yes. i identify as a 2D Waifu.
>>703475771
pick one
(a) dude
(b) chick
>>703476047
are you doing anything about it?
>>703475771
How do you know you want to be a girl if you've never been one? Maybe it's fucking horrible.
I'm deeply sorry but it's only idiots that think like you. You're just gay and want to be treated as a girl because they are cute. There is no difference, and you have no fucking idea how it feels to have girl-hormones etc.
>>703475771
try tumblr
its a place for faggots like u
>>703476090
I pick chick every time, I hate being male
>>703476014
lol no
>>703476099
i try, but its hard for people who've stuck with X for so long adapt to Y. thankfully many forms for various things have an "other" option and i fill that out.
>>703476213
well then be a chick
>>703476202
naw, they are cringe about it
>>703476191
>How do you know you want to be a girl if you've never been one? Maybe it's fucking horrible.
well I go out sometimes done up as a girl and every time it feels like the planets align for me and I can breathe easy
>and you have no fucking idea how it feels to have girl-hormones
actually I am on estrogen, progesterone, and I have almost zero testosterone (just had labs done my T is 2 and my estrogen is higher then a pregnant woman)
My only gender issue is that women are pretty much useless other than being life support for vaginas.
>>703476369
This is just bait, /thread
>>703475771
Just get some tit implants and be a trap.
no you fucking retard
>>703476356
Not like we have the tech for that
Give it a few decades and it might be possible, untill then, you're stuck as a guy
>>703476440
meh, I'm growing my own
>>703476291
you on hormones?
>>703476438
no its not
>>703476369
I get so fucking anxious when I read shit like this. There really are NO smart transgender people and that just proves my point that it's all just bullshit.
Just as I said, you're gay and just want to look like a girl because it's so much easier. It's not a fucking problem that you don't get attention when you're in your male form. It's not real, it's a fake fucking problem.
You really want to change gender to get more attention, you should really just go suicide in public or something to relieve your hard attention-boner.
>you'll belong to a demographic that's looked down upon and marginalized
>unless you were born with very feminine traits, you'll always be an obvious trans with your strong jawline and broad shoulders (HRT can't fix everything)
>a fake pussy will probably be a lot less sensitive than your cock is right now, sex and masturbation won't be that pleasurable
>hormones will fuck with your emotions and personality
>you'll never be able to do things a true woman can, such as bear children
If you think the benefits outweigh that, go ahead. I probably would have preferred being born as a woman but becoming one partway through life would cause more problems for me than it would solve.
>>703476550
More pics.
>>703476686
Its not about attention irl, in fact I want to draw little attention as possible.
>>703476740
yeah none of those irk me anymore
>>703476047
kek
is it gay if I want to fuck you?
>>703475771
Ye, wish I was grill. However my 8" makes it easier to live with myself.
>>703476854
If missing out on all of the things that make a woman "womanly" doesn't irk you, then you're probably becoming a woman for the wrong reasons. What attracts you to being a woman, if not the things I listed? Be specific and articulate, not short and vague.
Do you have untreatable facial hair growth, strong male features?
Hair growing on your shoulders and you want to wear armless dresses, or spaghetti carriers?
Then fuck it, you'll never have a chance.
Anybody who looks at you will know what is up.
>>703477045
>Ye, wish I was grill
then follow your dreams, my cock was 8 inches and I still started hormones
>>703475771
no, u faggot
>>703476550
i have a belly button fetish, how's yours looking? may we see?
>>703476014
Yes, actually. I fucking hate it when people say that I'm not allowed to feel what I feel or something just because I feel like a girl. I'm only not coming out about it because of people that'll think of it the wrong way.
For the record, I don't believe there are more than two genders. I just feel like one of those two.
Also check 'em
>>703477184
How's your dick now after the hormones? Does it shrink or look/act differently?
>>703476854
There is always a reason to why you feel better when you dress up as a woman. And if you seriously just state your reason in your head, your true reason, you will laugh at yourself.
You don't just "feel better as a girl", there are factors that make you "feel better as a girl". Whether it's your delusional mind, getting attention from hetero-sexual males or just thinking that you, yourself look good doesn't matter.
Your reasons will never be good enough, just look at the numbers of suicide post-op. (I don't have them but they're sky-high).
As long as you pay for all of this yourself I really don't mind. You can do whatever the fuck you want with your own money. My problem with this is that tax-payers money often is spent on shit like this.
If you're a parasite that gets this paid by tax-payers, you better think hardly about the homeless people, the sick and old people that suffer and die because of that you are not satisfied with what you were born with. Get some fucking perspective.
>>703477110
>If missing out on all of the things that make a woman "womanly"
naw, what you pointed out is not what makes a woman womanly. Having babies is what breeders do. Being womanly is how you carry yourself, dress, act, and look.
>>703477140
actually I got all my facial hair zapped off in the course of 4 weeks and hormones made all my male body hair vanish, I don't even have arm hair anymore
>>703476686
Met all transgender people, have you? Grow up, kid.
>>703476912
GG m8. Please keep your bits. They are amazing.
>>703477377
>Being womanly is how you carry yourself, dress, act, and look.
If that's true, then you don't need to be a woman to be womanly. So why become one? You dodged the question.
>>703476191
If it is a bad choice OP will know, because every trans person has to live through a trial period of hormone therapy by itself before getting any permanent surgeries.
>>703477377
Edgy, pronounced chin, long cheekbones, oversized, clearly male hands, a typical V-shape torso? there's lotsa giveaways to consider yet.
>>703477263
just had it pierced
>>703477287
>How's your dick now after the hormones?
pretty much dead, also had my balls snipped 2 months ago
What is your voice like?
Do you do the squeaky pretend female voice?
>>703476686
i get anxious when i read shit like this, there really are NO smart transphobes. sexual orientation has nothing to do with being transgender, some transgirls like girls and dont give a fuck about getting attention from straight men.
>>703477318
The suicide rate is high because of people like you, ass hat
>>703477635
yeah, can you vocaroo something for us?
>>703477581
:( only reason I don't want hormones or being snipped is losing my pp. Is it worth it?
>>703477635
https://clyp.it/yfjkbsx3
rate it
>>703477443
Please, I invite you to link me to a page with a highly-intelligent, achieved transgender person. Be it a entrepreneur, entertainer (not some weird stripper) or anything that generates money and provides for our society and I will gladly change my mind proven that your example holds up properly.
>FUCK YOU FOR HATING ISIS! YOU HAVEN'T MET ALL OF THEIR MEMBERS!
You fucking idiot, again you just strenghten my opinion with your idiotic comment.
>>703477796
I'm surprised, that is actually pretty good.
>>703477790
>Is it worth it?
leaps and bounds sister, leaps and bounds better then being stuck as a guy. My wardrobe went from jeans and tee shirts to anything I want
>>703477831
does a drag queen count?
>>703477693
Another idiotic fucking comment. ISIS would create a nice society for themselves where their members would be happy, IF NO OTHER HUMANS EXISTED, which is why they want to kill everyone.
You are so fucking retarded. People like me exist, that's why I think transgenderism is a stupid concept. If the world was different, maybe my opinion would be different. But it is as it is.
You can't be serious with this shit. God damn you people are stupid.
>>703477796
marry me
>>703477926
Maybe someday kiddo. I'm really scared of all the opinions from my Roman catholic family. I love them more than anything else, so leaving is a big nono.
>>703477831
Top ten. From one search.
http://www.therichest.com/rich-list/most-influential/worlds-10-most-influential-transgender-people/
And I can hate ISIS without hating everyone who fights for them. A lot of them are scared or stupid.
Try thinking outside of your narrow mind once in a while.
>>703477796
9/10 would hug that voice.
>>703478179
>letting your family cuck you out of your freedom
wew
>>703477266
Checked
>>703478329
Small price if you knew how amazing it feels to have a family of 20 plus that would do anything to help you. I just know that the majority would not like the idea of me coming out as anything.
>>703477831
>doesnt like a froup of people
>compares them to isis
>>703478018
Haha you can call me stupid all you like but you haven't put forward a sensible argument. You don't like it. I get it. Go fuck yourself.
>>703478225
#1 is a person who got killed, wow, great job. He literally did nothing except get killed. Good fucking list.
Oh, a polish transgender-rights activist is on the list too, damn that's exactly what I looked for.
Stephen whittle, a man.
I'm not even going to continue. There is no-one on that fucking list who has done anything impressive. And atleast 50% of them are just transgender activists???
Holy fuck, I feel bad for you.
>>703478547
>that would do anything to help you
except accept the real you
nice delusion pal
don't you wanna be cute and sexy?
>>703475771
Im a guy who likes to be a sissy sometimes but that doesnt really bother me
>>703478593
If you weren't an idiot you would understand that I didn't compare transgender people with ISIS. I used ISIS to explain why the previous argument about non-transgender people was invalid.
Another stupid pro-transgender. The trend doesn't fucking stop does it? Didn't think so.
>>703477489
>call op out on dodging my question
>no response
op confirmed to have no idea why they do the things they do
>>703477266
Well sorry you cant be a chick, you can get your dick turned inside out and all the plastic surgery in the world but that doesnt make you a woman. Can you birth a child? No, then youre not a woman. You can want to be one all you like, I mean honestly i think Id rather be one, but heres the difference between me and you. I got over it, i accepted reality and moved on with my life.
>>703478703
The list includes lawyers, surgeon, politicians, models and directors.
You asked for examples of intelligent transgender people who have contributed to society. You also said if you were presented with said list you would change your mind
Imagine my total lack of surprise that you're just a bigoted fuckwit.
>>703478739
I am. In my house privately. I personally would be more trap than Trans so I fit that bill. Also it's not like guys fall from the sky in indiana that would love to rail a person like me. Last time I fell for a guy he broke my tiny heart.
>>703478756
Well sissy isn't a gender, but props for being honest about your fetish I guess. This is a different problem.
>>703475771
Nope, only confused little faggots who deserve the ass kicking of their lives like you
>>703476014
kys faggot...wanting to be a pussy gross
>>703478997
I would love to rail you. Only time I wished I lived in Indiana.
>>703476550
not yet, but in a months time i will be.
>>703475771
Just because you feel like a thing does not mean you are a thing. In your own mind you can be whatever you want, and you can even carry that out to the physical world if you really want to, just dont expect others to give a shit or change for you. There are consequences for everything you do. Simple as that.
>>703475771
Sause?
>>703475771
I do. And it's fucking scary that not only my country doesn't have "gender therapists", and most trans-folk are forced to self-med, but the fact that I'm locked in this country for at least a few years.
Also, I'm scared that I'll lose everything I have if I come out, considering I still live in my parents' house, attend university, and plan to actually have a career in CSE.
No because I'm an adult male with a normally functional brain.
>>703479162
>just dont expect others to give a shit or change for you
no one does, when I go out done up as a girl people call me mam and stuff, hell its getting hard to pass as a guy at this point
>>703477796
More
>>703478954
There's always this guy. I know that I'm not a girl, I'm just not willing to go through surgery for it because
1: My family will never accept me
2: People like you would tell me that I'm still not a girl
Say what I am and what I'm not, I know what I feel, and I'm sorry for anyone that doesn't believe that I do
>>703475771
Hahahahahaha. Gender issues. You just like dick and need attention. Get over it. Visit a gay bar and accept the fact you are gay.
All these people turning into bullshit genders, you know why? Because it's no longer "a problem" if you are gay. But all of them need the attention and need to feel special. So they turn to being trans/pan/gender fluid, pure cancer.
>>703478703
Prove to me that /b/ has done anything useful to society.
You can't? Well clearly /b/ doesn't exist then
>>703479603
Easy for you to speak, when you're doing the same thing on 4chan, fag.
>>703479564
Then just be gay secretly, theres no reason to ruin relationships because you want to be a chick
>>703475771
Yeah I've thought about it since I was made 13. on and off with varying intensity and intention to actually step forward with the process. always backed out.
Recently I realised something though (partly due to reassessing the situation, the context and different contributing factors, and partly due to shifting my politics a bit) that I almost certainly am not transgender and in fact it was merely an element of an anxiety disorder / ocd intrusive thoughts / low self esteem depressive state. Of course I think I'd still like the idea of being the other sex but I think that's natural human curiosity, and really an extension (and confusion) of the natural male desire to get as close to the female body as possible.
For me, I honestly think at the moment, transgender thoughts I had which I thought ran really really deep were actually part of a more general dissociation with my body, and having been exposed to the rather novel idea of being able to transition my mind would keep returning to it (intrusive thoughts) as the solution - not to mention the fact that the idea turned me on so it was cemented on a chemical level as my brain was rewarding me for thinking about it.
I also have come to realise that myself and more and more people of this generation are having transgender thoughts, really comes down to the pushing of identity politics in everyday life. We are heavily encouraged to soul search, be ourselves, work out what we want to do with our lives (rather than actually just doing something), and self identify as all sorts of things. I guess there's also the downplaying of the importance of male characteristics in the education system, and a general trend toward 'feminisation' (which isn't actually necessarily a bad thing, being civilised, clean and caring about how you look isn't a bad thing for a man and isn't new). I guess porn also plays an impact, decreasing T levels and reprogramming the brain to make us think we don't have to try for sex irl.
>>703479779
enjoy being depressed forever
>>703479126
Daw thanx
>>703479779
I know that it's a lot of text but thought you might find my ramblings useful OP.
>TL;DR thought i was a girl, I'm not, just weird
>>703475771
lots of people here do. myself included.
>>703476550
This looks terrible. You have no tits and you aren't a woman. You are on track to kill yourself when you start aging and no one thinks you look right.
>>703476740
>such as bear children
>as bear children
>bear children
>>703479881
please go on? do you mean because I said I HAD depression? Because I'm good these days. Or are you pro- transition and you think that because I've turned my back on the idea, that it will still be there under the surface and make me depressed? honestly I'm not sure what you mean
>>703476550
More
>>703479779
On the last part, I'm a man, I have a lot of hair all over my body, and I just hate it with passion, I'd easily pay to remove all of it if I could, however I don't feel I was made to think of this by society. I just think body hair looks bad, is annoying, at takes away from hygiene. I just can't see why body hair is of any use in the last few centuries.
>>703480140
He's just sad and he wants to bring others down to his level.
>>703480140
If you wanted to be a girl at any point in your life then you are trans. I said the same shit as you are to try and not have the feelings but deep down logic could never beat out the feelings and I put off transition and ended up miserable until I sucked it up and went for it.
>>703475771
No, only with people telling me I was because I was'nt living up to their expectations of what my social performance is supposed to be like.
>>703477318
>just look at the numbers of suicide post-op. (I don't have them but they're sky-high).
this is hilarious.
>t-trust me, anon! i wouldn't ever lie or wildly misinterpret studies to prove my prejudice!!
>>703480046
what other way would you spell it lol
>>703478954
> There are only 2 genders
> If you can't give birth to a child you're not a woman
----------------------------------------------------+
> Implying all sterile women are secretly men
>>703479342
If so, post face.
>>703480339
>thinking everything without proof is automatically false
Oh fuck off
>>703479126
Pics what part of Indiana
>>703480382
Bare
>>703475771
>anyone else here dealing with serious gender issues?
No. Fuck off, faggot.
>>703477318
>My problem with this is that tax-payers money often is spent on shit like this
Given the small number of trans-people, the cost wouldn't even amount to a few million. Hardly a cost to be problematic.
#killyourself
>>703480471
Doesn't do a great job at making your argument look true though
>>703480295
ok, thanks for clarifying. Tell me more about your story then if you want. (or are you OP?)
I mean, when you say
>If you wanted to be a girl at any point in your life then you are trans
that requires the acceptance of the fundamental believe that Transgender-ism is actually a real thing (and the science isn't quite in on that one yet)
>>703480046
Just kill yourself m8, you're obviously pretty depressed about your own life. Just end it so you don't have to hate other transpeople because you didn't think it was worth it. In all honesty, if you didn't think it was worth it, you never wanted to be a girl.
>>703480458
Yes, 100 percent thats what i meant
>>703480736
lol wut?
>>703480673
Let's imagine everybody actually dug up sources. Would you read through them at all, or would you disregard most of it because it's like clicking Yes on the terms of service agreement?
I am NOT saying that sources are unnecessary, I also think that it would be purdy gud if people were providing them more often.
>>703480591
Bare children?
>>703480240
that's very interesting man, I see what you're saying. personally I like my body hair but yeah `i think there is something positive to come out of the slight breakdown of gender stereotypes if we can do stuff like you say.
>>703480471
For the sake of arguing, it should be. You can't just say "my penis is 19 kilometers long" and expect people to believe you. All you have to do, is cite your sources.
>>703480645
that's some top teir she pole
>>703480736
lol wut?>>703480864
its BEAR you fucking idiot
>>703475771
Nope, never thought about it - I'm a chap, I make shame-squishy with the ladies, there is literally nothing confusing about this issue for me.
Shit is cash.
>>703475771
just quit being gay fgt
Late reply. wasnt caught up. Don't have auto on.
>>703480591
sick spelling skills ya fuckin child
>>703480943
Oh shit, didn't think of that. Wow, that was easy, thanks anon
>>703475771
> gender issue
What the fuck is this goddamn Jewish bait all around fucking mentally ill easy to manipulate faggots.
>>703475771
Yeah, I<+m trying to go about my day and these faggots come up to me asking if Identify as a boy or a girl.
And when I say 'Male' they flip their shit.
\Man. I am having issues with my gender.
Godadamn faggots everywhere.
>>703481108
>Jewish bait
lol I hate the jews and i'm a tranny
>>703480645
fuck, i'm no transbian but that dick looks great.
Yeah, I identify as supreme lord of the omniverse but noone respects my authority.
Posting trans feels because why not
>raised in a strongly Christian household
>got molested by my friends cousin (early 20's I was 9)
> kind of liked it, made me feel special
>told my mom, she told his family
>he blew his brains out
>always knew I would be better as a girl since I was 12
>over the years that feeling grew
>so did I
>be me
>18
>6'3"
I don't know what to do. Help me
>>703480240
>>703480874
Yeah, tbh, I think "gender stereotypes" are supposed to be there for a reason, but if that reason doesn't exist anymore, then there is no reason for them to exist. Evolution will eventually optimize them out, as the centuries go by.
>>703481078
>>703481078
sick enough to troll you fgt
>>703480942
Mental illness is not funny its serious and conflicting depression isn't something to giggle about m8.
>>703479779
oh and another little addition to this (which may help out >>703479881 >>703480295 this guy in understanding why I realised I'm not trans). I don't like guys, at all. I feel no attraction to the male form and am not gay. That was one of the things that always stopped me from proceeding with anything transition related - I was having to face up to the idea that I'd only be desirable to dudes or at least that's what people would assume I was into, couldn't face the idea of not being in relationships with the gender I'm attracted to (girls)
>>703481261
You killed your cousin.
>>703476014
>like wanting to be a girl
>I know I do with all my heart
I realise emotionalism is very fashionable but what about in your head i.e intellectually?
>>703477266
>>703476014
You have mental illnesses. You need treatment. You are a man, you can't ever be a girl.
>>703480853
i actually do read the sources of pretty much everything that is related to trans stuff. there was a time when i actually expected that at least one source would support transphobes. every time the source was supporting trans people though or it wasn't a source but an article or some shit.
>>703481261
So, what exactly is your problem?
Help how?
>>703476481
You'll always be a male
>>703476213
tough shit you fucking idiot, deal with it. you think I enjoy being 5 foot 9? Or having a 5.5 inch dick? Or being genetically predisposed to obesity and having to work my fucking ass off to stay in shape? its all shit that I can wish were different but its how I was fucking born into this world and I need to accept it because it is a fucking fact. same as being a guy or a girl.
as for wearing girls clothes or makeup or what the fuck ever, go for it, who gives a fuck, but that shit does not make you a girl, youre still a guy dresed like a girl.
>>703481283
Yes. this. it's fine for there to be a gender archetype / stereotype but it can also be malleable to the circumstances and civilisation you actually exist in.
>>703481261
visit a therapist experienced in gender issues and talk to them.
I only ever wished a few times I could've been born a woman based on how easy they had it. It would've been great getting paid to look good, travel the world and having hundreds of thousands of people fawning over me on social media. Being a hot bitch does have its perks.
Then again I'm just lazy and don't want to work hard for money, success or fame.
But yea, guys that genuinely want to be a girl must be mentally ill or something. I just can't understand their thought process. Then again I've only known one male that's struggling to figure out his own gender or something. I honestly don't know what led to him thinking he wants to be trans because he just looks manly. So I really don't know how that's going to work out for him. He also spends time on 4chan so that might have warped his mind even more.
>>703480645
Sauce
>>703481383
Yeah, "articles" are a dime a dozen. Just people circlejerking their beliefs, just like any other issue.
>>703481334
there are plenty of legit trans girls who are into girls and in a relationship with a cis girl.
so many guys butt hurt they don't look cute in a skirt
>>703481334
Im a fat ugly guy with big natural bitch tits and i get pussy all the time. Whats your point i literally look like and ugly butch Dyke and have a small dick. Chicks don't care what you look like as long as you have money and a hard dick thats all they care about.
here to please?
>>703475771
Kill yourself mentally ill faggot. You just want attention, and to fuck straight men. Straight men don't want to go near you, so fuck you and fuck off. Try to fuck a dude dressed as a chick, I hope the dude kills you. You deserve it.
>>703481719
so much projection
>>703481382
>>703481433
If a male gets surgery to get a pussy and tits, what's keeping them from being female?
>>703481668
looking good anon
>>703481377
>I realise emotionalism is very fashionable but what about in your head i.e intellectually?
i wouldn't be using the word "intellectually" if i didn't know that emotions originate in the brain and are a very good indication of what you want and what you don't want. in fact emotions are much stronger and influential on you than rational thinking.
>>703481435
Being trans isn't being fat. Don't project your own disappointments in life. Even so, if you could undo "being predisposed to obesity" you would, wouldn't you?
>>703481261
Speak to psychologist first.
You might just be feeling that way only because of your first sexual experience, where you brain for the first time linked 'being the girl' for the guy with feeling pleasure. But I'm not an expert, that's why I suggested going to one before anything else.
>>703481672
wow what a warped worldview lol. glad it (kinda) works for you, I guess.
> Chicks don't care what you look like as long as you have money
yess goood, chase the shiny dollar
>>703481672
The truth about an alarming majority of women. This explains this post
>>703481617
Money and freedom is all most humans care about and the easiest way to get money is being an attractive chick. You'll never find a hot chick that's poor by choice.
>>703476014
>>703477266
Neither of you are girls and you will never truly be girls no matter how hard you try
>>703481424
I don't know what to do, if I should go on hormones, If I should cross dress and then on top of it all I'm 6'3" and may not be able to pass, plus being raised Christian I'm scared to go to hell. I just want to be cute
>>703481784
>emotions are much stronger and influential on you than rational thinking
Not the other poster, but fuck is that the most pain in the ass truth to deal with. I keep wanting to be completely logical because it fucking works, but then my animalistic hormones and drives kick in and im a fucking retard like everybody else.
>>703481933
Why though? Whats stopping them? If hypothetically they had their dna altered would they still be guys?
>>703475771
Yes, I can't get a girl.
>>703481868
Hes right though. Money is power. Everybody loves power, disregarding those jesus tier monks.
Everybody.
>>703481868
Money buys you the kind of women worth sleeping with.
>>703481985
Then just be a handsome gay guy you faggot. Wanting to be cute is literally not a reason to being trans or a crossdressing fag.
>>703476014
Then just be a girl. Don't be an asshole when people disagree with you though.
>>703482182
Lol I think you just don't understand
>>703481318
typical retard response, "oh wow i look like a fuckin dumbass, better say i was just trollin lol"
>>703482000
don't worry, anon. life without hormones would be boring as hell. i tried to go for the rational approach because i was scared of emotions but that turned out really bad for me and just ruined my childhood. embrace what makes you happy and don't worry too much about it.
>>703482079
They can never have a period.
They can never have a real vagina.
They can never have a baby.
They will always have a y chromosome.
They will never be girls.
>>703480632
OK fuck you. My fucking tax money should never be used to perpetuate your attention whoring ignorance. You are mentally ill people, go see a fucking therapist gutter slime.
>>703481985
6'3'' isn't a hindrance to passing. if you do not want to become any more masculine or want to have an actual chance to pass i'd recommend to get hormones.
>>703481617
How old is that guy you know?
Has he told you about his gender problems?
>>703481662
but how? and examples?
I was more talking about the expectations that would then be placed on me as a transgirl to seek out or rather accept advances from guys. It just seems like it would be making life unnecessarily hard for myself and my pool of potential partners would exponentially decrease. Also even though I'd potentially get a little confidence boost from having transitioned, I think I'd in the long run be hindered in terms of finding partners by the lowered testosterone levels - and i think it would also chemically induce more depression
>>703482000
Not the other poster either, but emotions are just variables that indicate how well one's life is going. Indicating if you're in a bad situation or not. Emotions are good. Rational thinking should take into account emotions. I think, however, it's our burden to realize when those emotions go too far, and apply more rationality.
>>703482358
SOON
>>703482570
>>703482289
And I guess I never will. The human mind is such an intriguing thing. I wonder if we'll ever understand how it fully works. Why we do the things we do or feel the way we feel and I'm not talking about sociology or psychology either.
Humans are just a strange complex species and we continue to learn more and more about them over the years.
And trannys certainly aren't cute
Giant ass man feet and hulk hands are fucking disgusting
>>703482358
lol if i'm going to be seen and treated in daily life as a girl, then that other shit you mention doesn't matter. except for not having babies, that's aweful but adopting a kid is a possibility.
>>703476912
damn, nice sissy butt, just dont let anyone mutulate yourself you can be a girl with a feminine penis like that and be loved and admired by most or be a half and half inbetween....
>>703482328
No its not the same. I mathematically experience emotions that are 80% stronger and lasts 20% longer than the average humans, and im male. Every time i let my emotions do what they want, I turn into a rotten, hypocritical sack of shit.
>>703477790
you can always self medicate to the point that it helps but keeps your dick around.
>>703481985
Well, how much effort do you actually want to put into it?
There's just a couple (a lot) of things to consider.
Obviously firstly. do you have the looks for it? Manly chin, edgy and big? Large hands? Wide shoulders? V-shaped torso?
Then you shouldn't even try. Some might be fixed with workouts or diet, if you want to make an investment, then surgery can also do something or hormones.
If you can do it, then you should try shaving, dressing up, makeup, look as feminine as possible. Sure you have seen hundreds of boybutts on here probably, but if your face is garbage then just forget about it, it's not going to be more than occasional crossdresser.
You gotta like yourself, and be half way convincing, because here's the thing.
I have once stood in line behind a trans guy with hair growing on his shoulders, a completely unfit physique to wear a dress and it was just disgusting to look at, couldn't fool a blind child.
Try being a crossdresser or trap for a while.
See if you can muster the discipline to even keep up with that before committing to anything further.
>>703481839
yes, but i cant, that was very obviously my whole fucking point. you are a man, you can't change that no matter what you do so accept it. not being able to accept your own sex is literally mental illness and you people need help, not this bullshit false "suport" that society is giving. real support would be helping you to cope with your psychological issues, not enabling them and causing you more unhappiness. the suicide rate for post-op trans people is so fucking high its a tragedy, and yet society as a whole is supporting it, pushing these people straight towards suicide.
>>703482663
Not all dudes have hands and feet the size of a baseball yard.
>>703481261
Proof that it's just a mental illness, like how yours came from this traumatic experience of you being molested. Your just confused and most likely stupid.
>>703482358
So if someone looks like a girl, talks like a girl, thinks like a girl and acts like a girl, they're not a girl unless their sex organs function properly?
Refer to post earlier about sterile women not being women
>>703476014
Homo
>>703482674
You really don't care about sex enough to part with your penis for a mutilated hell hole? And yes all of those things matter. And you will not be treated as a girl. You will be treaded as a transvestite. Because you are the only one stupid enough to believe you are a girl.
>>703475771
OP... gender is an identification term.
You will always be a man no matter how much lady stuff you wear. You'll always be a female man.
Man / Woman = Law of nature
Male /Female / Attack helicopter = Legal identification.
>>703482688
lol according to her she already has had an orchi and a shrink dick.
>>703482480
because some girls are bi or lesbians who don't care about your equipment.
those would be the same expectations placed upon every other lesbian. they seem to be able to live with it so why shouldn't you? depression can be caused by cypro but otherwise the meds won't cause depression, that would be a personal problem.
you mean a lower libido would hinder you? idk most girls get their libido back some time during the first year. i'm only in for 2 months and i'm already horny as fuck. first time in my life i'm actually horny tbh.
>>703480645
>would fuck the living shit out of while giving a double reach around.
hot as balls
>>703482879
Sterile women still have two x chromosomes dipshit. You don't think like a girl you asspie. You think like a tranny. Because that's what you are, what you'll always be and what people will treat you as if you go out in public looking like the ugliest man handed she hulk ever to crack the sidewalk with your giant manfeet.
>>703482358
science will find a way
>>703482476
Idk like 21 or something. He's told the people he talks to about his feelings and how he's unsure about it all. I mean, when I see him it just baffles me how he can ever be trans or anything. He is still in the "learning" phase I guess. I'm against it completely because I don't want to see him suffer on making such high impact decisions. But he can do whatever he wants to, who am I to stop him. Unfortunately most of his friends are typical SJW PC Tumblr fags and we all know how that is. They are supportive of such an idea without really thinking about it. Again, he can do whatever he wants. Who am I to have any say in his personal issues
>>703482957
i'm going to "mutilate" my penis for sure if only because i care about getting rid of that piece of shit.
eh, we'll see about how i'll be treated. most of the experiences i have heard are very positive about that.
>>703482797
I've never seen a pair of nice looking feet on a tranny. It's fucking impossible.
>>703476740
This is only good comment
>>703483164
what about xxy people? are they male or female?
>>703482756
It's all about appearance, if I don't look good I just won't do it and be sad for the rest of my life
>>703483164
Lol this /thread
>>703482879
not that guy, but you're kinda missing the point. It's not about the organs 'functioning properly', it's about having totally fucking different sex organs. A uterus / vagina that has something wrong with it is not the same as a penis!
personally I think in the scenario you describe
>So if someone looks like a girl, talks like a girl, thinks like a girl and acts like a girl,
that person should be socially treated as a girl (if they pass), sure and get to live as one in society (but their medical record should read male or mtf, to avoid confusion in hospital situations). But no, I still think that this does not mean that they ARE a woman. It's fine to treat them as what they want to be in all contexts that harm neither themselves or others but it simply doesn't make them that
>>703480046
Grrrrrrr
>>703482805
Yeah it is a mental illness, it's OK though because it's so cute
>>703483164
chromosomes aren't really that decisive for the sex. sex hormone levels are important for sexual dimorphism.
>>703483164
Try again anon, answer the question instead of projecting.
>>703483283
Them ones are the real ones i feel sorry for. All these gender studies shit from the US exploits and insults the real ones.
>>703483305
Eyup, that's just what it boils down to.
I considered doing a bit of CD, but I am a lazy piece of shit and shaving is shit in my opinion, so fuck it.
![bear1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/yK6TCOI.jpg "bear1[1].jpg")
>>703476740
bear children
>>703475771
Nope, it feels good to be a (white) cis male
>>703483164
Must be hard living with such a thick skull as yours, am I right?
>>703483251
>because I don't want to see him suffer
if he is trans he suffers by not transitioning. he also likely suffers from being referred to as a guy.
>>703483283
that's such a small amount of the population and not directly correlated with those who transition.
I'd say xxi's are their own thing, or they can choose to be which ever they are naturally closest to / feel / look like
>>703482763
Sound reasoning
>>703483489
kek
I definitely want to be a girl. But women are deities, I'm so not worthy.
Can some of you guys explain WHY you feel like you want to be the other gender? If you're a guy do you feel like you want to be a girl just because you feel more emotional on average than a guy and closer to how emotional a girl is?
>>703483251
Do you still talk to him?
If you do, will you still talk to him after he transitions?
Why are you against it?
If he looked more feminine would you be more supportive of it?
>>703483516
>im a transphobe
>hermaphrodites are pretty cool in my book
ok
>>703483283
They have a syndrome that outs the possibility of either. I say in the rare case that someone is born with turners they should get to decide their gender. But the rest of you are either guys Trying to be girls or girls Trying to be guys. You are not a girl. You are a TRANSVESTITE.
>>703483555
Trips get
>>703483614
what the fuck
this isn't a fetish thread
>>703483506
He's still very much a male. He isn't transitioning at all. He's just thinking about it for the future. He's like that other anon who recently posted that he just wants to be cute.
>>703483267
I'm a foot fetishist and I've seen plenty.
And I'm getting repulsed by plain male feet.
Even I have smaller feet than half of the girls I know and my hands are tiny.
So lurk moar, fagget.
>>703483614
you sound neckbeardy
>>703481767
Biology. Chromosomes
>>703483626
it's because i feel like shit whenever i see male traits of mine. it's because i feel like shit whenever someone refers to me as a guy. supposedly it's a neurological structure formed during puberty that causes it. i want a female body, i'd like to be pretty but even if not i need that female body to be happy.
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>>703476014
this is pretty simple, it doesnt matter, make up your mind, the only reason this is happening, is because there are nothing to make you survive, i mean that modern life has taken away the daily battle for life, which left many feeling empty
I GOT NEWS
YOU NEED TO DEAL WITH IT, AND FAST
WAR IS COMING
DEAL WITH THAT SHIT AND ANY OTHER SHIT, AND PREPARE, CAUSE SOON, WE WILL HAVE TO SURVIVE DAY TO DAY
-CrazyCapGuy
>>703481761
No, I'm not a faggot. I'm happy to be a man. Nice denial though, faggot.
>>703483098
well I'm glad it's working for you, but from what I've heard / seen, folks do get depressed and have a lower libido. & to say depression is not related to brain / body chemistry is ridiculous.
But yeah my main concern there with the first part
>because some girls are bi or lesbians who don't care about your equipment.
those would be the same expectations placed upon every other lesbian. they seem to be able to live with it so why shouldn't you?
That's all very well and I get what you mean, but the problem is more , how the hell would I find these girls? how would I know if they'd be up for it, it would be a damn minefield of frustration and rejection, it looks like. And again the potential pool of matches would greatly decrease (and I would almost certainly have to buy into the whole package of 'new reality' current year bullshit just to be with someone)
>>703483737
idk, i don't know him. many trans girls have issues finding the courage and will to transition even though it would make them feel better for a variety of reasons. societal pressures, shame and self-hate are just a few of them.
>>703483828
This post perfectly encapsulates the whole debate
>I want to be happy
>no you're just retarded
>>703483504
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>>703483372
Look at all the delusion. You ACTUALLY believe you are girls. Tell me right now you ACTUALLY believe that dressing and acting like a girl makes you a girl. Please i just need it to confirm that PC culture is placating the mentally unwell.
>>703483874
Faggot fuck off
Retard
why do you dudes give a shit what I do with my body?
also, having tits rocks
>>703477377
>Being womanly is how you carry yourself, dress, act, and look.
That's a drag act
>>703481328
I've suffered with chronic depression all my life, trigger-nigger, so fuck you and your confused feelings - half the problem with gender-swap folk is the massive narcissism in your fucking whining. You're depressed about having the wrong junk? Okay, fine - doesn't give you a passport to act like a cunt and assume that nobody else has ever hurt or had shit to deal with.
Faggots and trans people have had a horrible, horrible time of it since forever, and there has piterally never been a better time to be like you than now. So get off your gender-neutral soapbox and go fuck yourself, you condescending piece of shit.
>>703479667
Neutral party here
/b/ has solved a few mysteries before and even got the police involved
>>703483722
Nope I heard a song about the inferiority of men as a kid, which became ingrained in me.
>>703484066
If you didn't care about other's opinions, why are you here though?
>>703483651
Yea I still talk to him every now and then but it's mostly in group chats. He's just a friend of a friend. So whether he transitions or not means nothing when it comes to contact. As long as he is apart of a group chat I will talk to him.
I'm against it because I feel he's using it as an excuse for his life not being so grand. I'm pretty sure he got bullied when he was younger usually for his short height compared to his peers among other things.
I'm not supportive of the whole trans movement but it doesn't mean I hate anyone who is. Like I said, it's his life and his choice, he should feel free to do whatever he wants.
>>703482805
Mental disorders are defined by psychological dysfunction that causes either suffering to the self or others over an extended period of time. Thats literally it.
>>703484021
more meat for me,,,i am warning you,,,i m not judging you, i am just saying that there are more important things that how you feel about your dick
hey more food for me if you all die, i am trying to help you
>>703484146
I dunno, I don't know why with today's modern medicine why any guy doesn't want to be a girl
i mean shit dude I get to play with my tits all day long and dress myself like a barbie doll
>>703484113
It was more a hypothetical in response to another anon, but it's nice to know some good can come out of here
>>703484066
Post your panty bulge
>>703483659
>assumptions & labelling
>lol
I didn't say anything 'transphobic' haha, I just said that XXY people are not necessarily trans in the sense that other people are, it's a slightly different issue.
I was then saying that they are a real rarity and exception and seeing as they NATURALLY are not exactly one gender or the other, they should have more ability to decide their expression.
I am not >>703483164 , btw
>>703483954
well, it's not really working for me because i still look like a skinny guy so i don't feel secure enough to find a qt guy to satisfy my horniness ;-; still, i'd take that any day over having test in me.
idk how you would find them. people have managed to find them and i'm sure if you try you can find someone too. they don't have to be necessarily tumblrinas to be open. i've got the impression that plenty of people are open nowadays.
if you really want to have test in you though, i'm not sure if transitioning is right for you? what about test do you want? the masculinization of your body?
>>703484339
those are some seriously fine tits, wouldn't mind dropping a load on them.
>>703484013
Ever heard of the ship of Theseus?
>>703481096
You're welcome
>>703484207
And all the people complaining of depressive disorders because they are wearing the wrong clothes and people don't open doors for them and call them ms. They aren't hurting themselves with that behavior? They aren't hurting themselves by drastically altering their hormone levels? It should be illegal to do that to yourself but parents are actually doing it to their own kids now. It's horrendous. Those hormones that don't belong in your body can increase the risk of serious health problems.
>>703484066
Can you post your full frontal body? Doesn't have to include face
>pic related
Also how old were you when you started hormones and how old are you now?
>>703483966
I see. Your last sentence explains so much then. So, it seems a lot of trans people have either been bullied or traumatized during their life. I'm guessing it's the trigger for it.
Speaking of which, that YouTube music ad with the crossdresser really irks me lol.
>>703484013
Dude, I'm not a tranny.
I'm just not that dense. If someone legitimately looks and behaves like a girl I have no problem accepting them as such, because I'm not like 'hurr durr you can't have childrenXD check your chromosomes LOL'.
It's about compassion and being a decent human being. Something you conservative retards never heard of.
>>703484066
you are the one asking,,
and some of us are actually giving you the answer, you just dont listen
It doesnt fucking matter, do whatever you want, but do it, get the fuck out of mental limbo
>>703484143
Post song?
Do you actually think you are trans?
>>703481261
I'm willing to bet you're 8" shorter
And 10x a bigger faggot
>>703484339
>I dunno, I don't know why with today's modern medicine why any guy doesn't want to be a girl
i mean shit dude I get to play with my tits all day long and dress myself like a barbie doll
..aaaaaaaaaand... that's why you'll never truly be a woman, or understand what it is to be one. You are still a man, and you enjoy fetishising yourself for your own enjoyment (which is cool, but you're not a woman). You're now a man looking out of a woman shaped shell at itself and getting turned on. it's like that fucking scene in the scooby doo movie
>>703484536
>I'm guessing it's the trigger for it
no, it's definitely not. it's more likely that the bullying and traumatizing is because of the kids being "visibly" gay or trans beforehand. i do think there might be some cases where it is the other way around but they are far from the norm.
>>703481283
"but if that reason doesn't exist anymore, then there is no reason for them to exist." You are just stupid
Get out
>>703484647
>You're now a man looking out of a woman shaped shell at itself and getting turned on
well when I get my vaginoplasty in January no more penis so I don't give a damn dude. I will shlick to myself all day long and have a big ass smile as I do it
>>703484066
I actually don't, but you do. You're on a board, posting naked photos of yourself in an attempt to get support and compassion from the least likely community to give it to you. And you KNOW that.
What does that say about you?
>>703484578
Being a female is literally defined by your chromosomes and by your sexual organs and your ability to give birth. You can accept someone who isn't a girl as a girl all you like but that doesn't make them genetically female. Your opinion doesn't turn men to women.
>>703483614
Ive noticed transexuals tend to align with this pov. Female worshippers. I even ran into one who wanted to go full feminist and use men like cattle, solely for breeding and self indulgent purposes. They were to be allowed no other rights.
It was pretty horrifying to listen to though, considering how serious he was.
>>703484469
Not the other guy. Just a lurker here.
Can you explain what you mean?
I'm curious on what your point is
>>703484809
>shlick
Enjoy that. I'm sure it will be just as pleasurable as having a real penis or vagina. Probably not though.
>>703484950
So infertile woman is 2/3 female?
Sure, they'll never be identical to a genetic woman, but if they are getting so close that you can't even tell unless they strip, then what's your fucking problem then?
>>703484442
aha! right that is useful to know. well I do hope it works out for you, but you just proved my worries true right there. Honestly
>they don't have to be necessarily tumblrinas to be open
I think it's very likely that they would have to be to some degree, and if not, then once again our potential partner pool is reduced.
>i've got the impression that plenty of people are open nowadays.
could it be due to an internet / media / friends echo chamber?
I'm a small, skinny dude with sort of effeminate features (but too much of a jaw), so I'm not exactly pumping with test as is. but I like the feeling of confidence it gives me, and I enjoy the mild rush of doing something masculine or having affirmation from other people of my status as a guy. I don't want to be jacked or anything though, I kind of like androgyny but the societal advantages of being a guy haha. I've been pretty confused.
I'm interested in how things are going for you. If you have a Skype I can contact you on please leave one below you want so we can maybe continue this discussion when the thread dies. :)
>>703485157
well all my trans friends had the operation, I even got to touch one and fuck it and it turned out great
i can't wait till I get one
>>703484753
Oh, well the guy I referred to in this post
>>703484149
has had a gf so.... Yea. He was just bullied and although I'm not certain, probably has parental issues. Judging off how much Ive talked to him over the years, this seemed to all develop when he was 17 18 19.
>>703484809
once again you have proven my point. You are still looking with the male gaze lol, and treating the whole thing as sexual. I'm not saying it's wrong or anything, do you. But just know you are not and never will be a woman, but that's still cool
>>703481261
Sounds familiar. I was molested my my own cousin(who was about 14) when I was about 8. But I never told my mom until I was 25, at which nothing came out of it not to bring shame to the family. My mom mentions sometimes that pedos should be castrated, but to me she says: 'oh he had a bad youth' and stuff. I almost never see this cousin at family gatherings anymore.
I think I started liking the idea of being female when I was rightgendered by some stranger when I was about 19. But going through with it might mean I would have to be castrated in the end to really be one. And that means taking away the only pleasure I have in live. I mean I already was asexual, but I still have the urge to masturbate daily. Losing genitals might mean losing the urges and ability to orgasm all together. And I've seen that happen in other people who got fixed for some other reason.
>>703484066
Are your tits sensitive?
>>703485272
>but you just proved my worries true right there
if you are talking about the "i look like a skinny guy" part then i have to repeat: i'm on hormones for two months. my boobs(i had slight gyno before) started hurting and my nipple started puffing up a lot but other than that there are literally no physical changes. that stuff starts at, idk, half a year or so. until you pass you have to wait up to a year most of the time, as far as i understand.
yes, our partner pool is small, i know. it sucks but it can't be helped.
i go on /lgbt/ frequently and there are plenty of guys and girls who wouldn't mind a trans partner. it's still the same 4chan culture as here, other than that i barely have socialisation.
i would not like to put my skype up here, but if you post yours i'll add you.
>>703485433
>and treating the whole thing as sexual
lol not really
in every day non 4chan life I live as a normal chick, I walk my dog, go to work, go to Starbucks with my girlfriends, hell I am going to Sephora today with 3 of my bio girl friends for some fresh makeup and maybe later we might go dancing
the whole fapping to myself is a joke, i fap to gay porn though
>>703477796
n o
>>703485272
>>703485767
i don't want to disappoint you though so i'll warn you beforehand. i don't really like socialising so i don't go on skype very often.
>>703485711
dude they are so sensitive I can pick up AM radio with them
>>703485225
I don't have a problem with it. I'm just stating facts. Have been the entire thread. It's everyone else that's getting triggered by the fact they can never be female. Also infertile women have the ability to give birth. They don't have the ability to conceive retard.
Faggot
>>703485664
> I mean I already was asexual,
> but I still have the urge to masturbate daily
Please don't redefine words to fit your nartive.
> a·sex·u·al
> a person who has no sexual feelings or desires.
You were never asexual.
>>703477796
DAMN
Thinking you are a women because you drastically alter your body with hormones is downright retarded. You are a tranny, you'll always be a tranny and people will always treat you differently than they would an actual female.
>>703485225
Not him but no, infertile women are just unfortunate enough to have such a beautiful thing stripped from them.... Except for the drug addicts, I'm glad some can't reproduce due to their excessive drug use.
Anyway, I personally won't refer to trans women as an actual women. Sorry but that's how the majority of the world feels
>>703477796
>https://clyp.it/yfjkbsx3
tbh you still sound like a gay man.
but then again I'm a brit, so I'm not used to the horrid fake sounding american valley girl voice
>>703486001
Would the correct word be aromantic?
I also was a bit confused when he said he masturbates, but is asexual.
You're only having "gender issues" because the fucking mainstream media has been brainwashing you to believe in the concept that gender is fluid and not solid. Its all in your fucking head... which means you need mental help, but unfortunately and for some fucked up reason, even psychologists are playing along saying that gender identity is fluid ... so in the end, you're fucked, so either live with the idea it's in your head, or kill yourself. Its the only way. I'm not gonna do it for you, but it wouldn't bring a tear to my eye to see another fucking mental case "gender fluid" faggot to die. As far as I'm concerned, you all should be thrown in vats of acid feet first.
You will always be a boy and a faggot.
i just have no idea anymore
>>703475771
sauce pls
>>703486001
many asexuals mastubate, even without thinking about sex while doing that.
People are asexual when they don't feel any sexual attraction to people, so never feel the feeling of wanting sex with someone just by seeing someone they like, like other people seem to do.
>>703486350
tell that to the female to males.
>>703486153
>valley girl voice
how do you know im from the valley? lol downtown los angeles is like a 10 min drive away
>>703480458
Those aren't women though.
They are sterile women.
>>703486466
Holy kek have you ever seen one? They would rather be super ugly dudes than decent looking girls? Wut.
>>703486726
yeah, that's because gender dysphoria is a bitch.
>>703485898
Even after they get cancer and get their womb or ovaries removed for that or other reason?
People are getting triggered because you are acting like a shithead about the whole issue with your
>never going to be a woman lel
Those people go through enough shit on a daily basis, without your edgy statements.
It's like going through a town and constantly remind people that they are never going to be part of the community, just because they moved in here. Because for you it doesn't matter that it was 50 years ago and they run for the local election, being born in here is what truly matters after all.
Refer to the part about being a decent person.
>>703480458
There is a difference between not being able to give birth and not being able to conceive you sjw cuck
>>703476854
>Its not about attention irl, in fact I want to draw little attention as possible.
But it is about attention online - as proven by this very thread?
Trannies are all just men who want the treatment of women.
Nothing logically wrong about it - but then again I'll never ever think of you as anything more than the average superfical shallow woman, because that is what you degrade yourself to, people whos opinions are literally not worth hearing because its all about themselves and how they are perceived by others.
>>703486901
Are you suuuure?
Being infertile can have many reasons, so if your ovaries are fucked you can't conceive.
>>703476686
Hey my friends brother is trans and he designs the electronic components in vibrators
>>703486508
because you sound like one lol, glad I was right though haha
>>703486837
Or because it's not normal?
>>703486433
I think you're being dishonest with yourself by trying so hard to distance yourself from the sexual factor.
Asexuality was, for a very long time, been defined as a lack of sexual desire, of ANY kind, stop putting masturbation in a different category. And it is linked to hormonal imbalances, tho studies are not conclusive. When you're asexual you don't jack off 5 times a day.
But now it has been hijacked by LGBT and everyone is asexual because it's hip and cool.
>>703487175
that doesn't even make sense.
>>703487040
>implying I don't like being degraded
my girl cock gets hard thinking about being degraded
>>703486326
>>703485767
for some reason I can't find a way to post a Skype id without it linking to an email that could be linked to me :(
have a nice life I guess. do check back though I might sort it out
>trannies
>its not about all the attention we are getting I'm swear, I just want to be a girl - who happens to be at the center of attention all the time
>thats why we invade all communities
>thats why we have an /lgbt/ board here
>and thats why we still come into /b/ to bring attention to tranny "problems" again, ie "not having enough attention"
Your value is as such:
men>faggots>women>worst flamer faggots>traps>dykes>>>>>>>>>>>>>trannies
You take upon you all the negative aspects of a girl and offer nothing but weird in-between body, a dick or just a mangled fucking wound in return.
Atleast those worthless shallow dumb bimbos can still get pregnant and become useful that way at the end of their attractive phase.
>>703487040
>its all about themselves and how they are perceived by others
isn't that all humans, anon? what else is there?
>>703486839
>they came to /b/ that's their fault
>comparing nationality and birther laws to gender
>getting triggered for all the trannys so they don't have to
You are a moral cuck. No getting your ovaries removed does not make you a man. It makes you a woman that had her ovaries removed. What is so hard to understand about sterile women not being men? By your logic if I want to dress like a tyrannosaurus and pretend I have little arms and stomp on cars then you would have to call me a goddamn t-rex and run for your life. Something I never have been and never will be is a t-rex..
>see how I can also use wildly impromptu arguments to further my idiotic point
>>703487180
Well it seems pretty normal in the asexual thread.
>>>/lgbt/6809302
But your definition would just be people who might be sexually attracted to someone but have no desire to do so. Those might still be straight/gay/lesbian/bi/... with a low libido.
