3D loli is illegal under the PROTECT act of 2003.
However, 2d loli is protected. They've made it clear that as long as lolicon depicts fictional children is it not obscene enough to land you jail time. Land of the free home of the horny.
What about vids like that one little girl riding a horseriding machine? I hear it got deleted a few times, but is it technically illegal?
Whats with all the 3DPD loli threads lately?
>>>/pol/88076937
>>703063953
>>703063874
Let me make it clearer. If the child looks real aka non-fictional then it is illegal under the protect act.
But big eye'd girls with obviously fictional bodies is legal c:
>>703063757
In my country even a picture of a giant tentacle monster raping a cat girl could be considered CP and therefore give you just as much trouble as any real photo.
Reason: It could theoretically be possible, that someone drew the pic after a real child and just changed the girl to have cat ears and the rapist to look like a monster.
I'm not even kidding...laws are stupid sometimes
>>703063757
Parts of the protect act were found to be in violation of the first amendment, inhibiting art as a medium of speech.
TL;DR The supreme court ruled it was legal, bush then made a bill with congress to make it illegal, which supreme court then ruled unconstitutional again so its ultimately legal.
What about girls that look loli but are actually 20?
(Marina Nagasawa)
>>703064748
feel free to fuck these
>>703064748
>Marina Nagasawa
Illegal in Australia I think
>>703064748
kitty jung is still legal af
>>703064748
lol, I accidentally did greentext on her name because I was about to search her on bing
HOLY SHIT GUYS I FORGOT MY NUGGETS IN THE MICROWAVE FOR LIKE AN HOUR THEYVE JUST BEEN SITTING THERE NOT BEING EATEN FUCK
Hop on the train everyone!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHuv_WhzPXA
>Land of the free home of the horny
so basically the internet...
>>703065669
nice try fbi
>>703066008
Hey, 69 has spoken. What can we do?
>>703065669
>>703066064
nice try samefag
>>703063757
wonder what about this then. protect act unconstitutional?
i mean, it's SCOTUS after all
http://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1060&context=dltr
also, > They've made it clear
who's "they"
>>703065351
RIP cheggen nigger
>>703064748
Also illegal in germany.
Don't really get why, but it is.
People don't care about the age, since it would take too long to figure it out and to really proof it.
They just care about the looks.
>>703066153
nice try faggot
You guys fucked!
She is not legal for 'murica
>>703066446
God I wish i was on that train
And what about pictures only dressed?
>>703067050
If they are in sexually suggesting poses (called posing pictures) they can also get you in trouble.
Maybe you heard of Sebastian Edathy? (don't know how much other countries heard of this case)
He was a somewhat big politician, until they found some questionable pictures on his notebook.
>>703065626
>>703067050
>>703067544
>>703067577
And what about videos allowed on youtube?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHOZ8QiliyA
>>703067577
Moar
>>703068113
I don't have the rest, I'm sorry :c
Big sweaty loli titties?
>>703068113
nhentai net artist:gomennasai
>>703066400
Germany has specific laws about media, in which that they have to comform to the governments ideal. That's why they're also allowed to imprison and fine people for having negative statements about refugees for example. A woman has to look sexually mature in germany for her to make porn or something like that, which also makes ageplay illegal. On top of regular laws about age. Since germany doesn't have free speech, this takes effect.
>>703063953
>>703068985
if that would be true then unterauerbach or whatever that loli sex game from germany is called would have a hard time.
unfortunately germany is all about public outcry. if the public doesn't notice you are pretty much fine doing anything you like
>>703063757
i mean loli is illegal in a bunch of US states.
>>703070140
Germany already tried taking down Unteralterbach once. But the game is hosted outside of germany and german laws don't apply to things that are not in german jurisdiction, smart ass. To be more specific, the creators of Unteralterbach are completely anonymous and the registration of their domain and host was done by a company in florida that in proxy registers things like that to preserve anonymity.
I really don't know if you're just dumb or not to figure this out.
>>703070218
not the ones uncle sam still loves
>>703070622
post sources or be a liar
shit am in Iraq and still have more freedom than all of you western faggots
>>703070867
How old are you?
Go to whois.com
Enter Unteralterbach.net
Look at who registered the domain
Now go to the website and look at the fake credits
They're 100% anonymous and not hosted in germany. If you're so smart, prove they're not.
can some1 post some realistic 3d loli shit?
>>703070882
Just because your government doesn't give a shit about certain things so they don't care enough to outlaw things of questionable nature doesn't make your country cool, that makes it a fucking unregulated nightmare.
>>703071211
Shouldn't unteralterbach fall under the fictional children are okay thing?
>>703063874
>vids like that one little girl riding a horseriding machine
Anyone have this one? I saw it on YT once
>>703071389
AKA Freedom :)
allahu akbar my friend
>>703070882
Arent pedos just brutally murdered by mobs if they are caught?
>>703071583
Freedom is a right to do something. If something is not covered by law it's not your "right" that permits you to do stuff, it's your shitty government's attitude.
>>703063757
Anything realistic is illegal, yes. 3d loli had been illegal in most countries for ages because it's a deliberate attempt to depict real children
>>703071554
As I stated here >>703064728
That's the thing. Fictional children aren't okay in some countries (including germany)
>>703071874
I'm pretty sure that clearly fictional pictures are completely legal in germany.
>>703066433
>>703072010
That's just wishful thinking. They are not.
>>703071868
i feel almost bad for you westerners, your ancestors were awsome and shit and we fought them and fucked them up and they always came back stronger, now it is just sad to see the decline of your civilization by the hands of the jews and sjws betas
>>703072010
They aren't, see wikipedia.
Me writing a novel about a child getting fucked would be illegal in germany as well.
For example, Stephen Kings IT came censored in germany with the child sex orgy removed. Now you're going to tell me anime loli is fine, but fictional lolis in text aren't? Yeah, no, they're all outlawed.
>>703072327
RIP Hitler and Germany :(
>>703072010
>>703072322
>>703072327
https://dejure.org/gesetze/StGB/184b.html
"Tatsächlich oder Wirklichkeitsnahes Geschehen."
A tentaclemonster raping a little anime catgirl isn't that realistic for me.
>>703063757
Yes, but 2D is still illegal in certain states, like Massachusetts.
FML
>>703071554
Fictional children are treated the same as real children. If you get caught with lolicon, it will be punished the same way as distribution or possession of child pornography would be. I had a friend that actually got prosecuted for having lolicon on his facebook profile because it looked funny. It wasn't even a nude loli, it was a sexually suggestive one. They raided his home, sentenced him to like 2 years probation and a huge fine, but more importantly he now has "Possession and distribution of images depicting minors" in his criminal record. No side note about it being fictional.
Fictional or real, doesn't matter. They're all deemed immoral and therefore they fall under the same law.
Loli isn't legal in France.
>>703072625
Scheinheilige Idioten.
At the same time Germany is one of the few countries where it's completely alright to air Pretty Baby (=Brooke Shields naked in a movie 11 years old) uncropped. Looks pretty realistic to me.
>>703072625
>https://dejure.org/gesetze/StGB/184b.html
Let's say you have an image of an animu girl getting raped by tentacles, let's go by the list in order.
>§ 184b.1a-c
Guilty
>§ 184b.3
Guilty
>§ 184b.4
Guilty
>§ 184b.6
Guilty
You're under the misconception that if one of those not apply, that it won't make you guilty. That's wrong. Only ONE of those has to apply, for you to be judged as defined by § 184b.3
>>703073061
and then you pay like 200 euros and anything against you is forgotten
>>703072625
>for me
That's the problem with this law. "wirklichkeitsnah" (close to reality) is pretty vague.
You can say it isn't realistic, but tell this some old, conservative police man who doesn't know what hentai is.
>>703063757
>>703073252
I would plead that I have no fucking idea what amounts as "close to reality", since I don't actually have anything "real" to compare it to.
I mean come on, how the fuck should I know what's close and what's not if I don't own actual CP for comparison?!
>>703073061
It's not a children and it doesn't show a realistic image of a children. It's not a representation of a real situation.
But you're probably right, because judges in germany and the way it is formulated is completely retarded.
>>703072669
Justice at it's finest.
bump
What about the Netherlands? Germany is a no no and they are neighbours. Can't find anything concrete.
>>703073761
On October 1, 2002, the Netherlands introduced legislation (Bulletin of Acts and Decrees 470) which deemed "virtual child pornography" illegal.[17] The laws appear to only outlaw "Three-dimensional, realistic images representing a minor engaged in a sexually explicit conduct". In January 2011 the law was expanded and non-realistic 3D images are now counted as child pornography.
>>703073136
>200€
Add a one infront of that and you have the fine for a misdemeanor. So no, you'll pay much more than that. As stated by §184b.3, it's prison for 3 years or the equivallent of a fine, which would be 16 € a day for roughly 17.520€ as a fine in total. Of course you can plea for a misdemeanor if it's your first time and you haven't had anything else in your criminal record, in lieu that you haven't actually hurt anyone.
>>703073623
A child is anything that passes the miller test to some degree (Which it does for anime) and no, it doesn't have to represent a real situation. That's ONE part where you're not guilty, versus 6 accounts that says you're guilty for breaking that law. That's like murdering someone and pleading not guilty because they couldn't prove it wasn't premeditated. Get some sentence comprehension you pleb.
Seriously, read up on the wikipedia entry, I don't know why you think being contrarian helps you.
>>703063953
Despite it being illegal in so many places, why do these threads not get people in trouble?
>>703074260
>>703074008
which is funny, since real, cock-in-pussy CP wasn't just allowed, but a rather big, public business in the netherlands till, what, 97?
>>703074315
because murrica and https
>>703074315
Despite you being illegal in Saudi Arabia, why haven't they beheaded you yet?
>>703074315
4chan isn't hosted in those places and most countries don't give a fuck about fat neckbeards fapping to anime girls as long as they don't share that stuff over common social media.
Also it's probably only american authorities monitoring this threads.
>>703074549
I'm not talking about the American hosts, I'm talking about the euros accesing this website getting in trouble with local law.
>>703074315
"Look behind you."
"I said "Look behind you"."
>>703074582
>>703074668
In germany they rather arrest more anti-refugees nazis on facebook.
>>703073061
that's shindol?
>>703074668
Because if the "local law" wanted to look into what you're viewing pic related is all they would see. They're not going to arrest you for going on "/fit/" because they have no fucking clue what you're doing.
>>703074582
>>703074949
That's all I got. Sorry anon.
>>703064748
the mythical legal loli, rarely seen in the wild
I would like to catch one someday.
>>703074056
you are an idiot. you pay that out of judgement and you can basically pay any sum or none.
last time done by Edathy. He paid 5000 euros to stop the lawsuit against him and buying child pornography of little boys.
and he is a fucking person of public interest (politician) so the fine was higher than you actually need to pay as a normal person
you are all sick fat pedos and should get shot
>>703075011
They could still get a warrant, right? 4chan has cooperated before.
>>703063757
I remember when the internet was freezdom. then, some christian right wing wingnuts told me I couldn't like Britney Spears... and then... my life literally went sideways for awhile. signed, anonymous.
>>703065147
If you're below a C cup, you're not allowed to do porn in Australia. I think that's a given that she's not legal.
>>703074457
Somebody plz edit an ice cream cone onto this, it'd make a great reaction image.
>>703075329
I'm just here to discuss the legality of different kind of porns in comparison with current public moral values.
>>703075345
How would they get a warrant if they can't prove a suspicious behaviour?
I lost my flash drive somewhere outside. It was filled with Loli, shota, goro you know primarily the good shit. Last place I remember was the supermarket. And I need that flash drive for my class.
>>703075329
>>703075345
No judge in their right mind would sign a search warrant for "boards.4chan.org".
>>703075520
what about that American cat that kicked out of the military for beating the shit out of the muslim boy rapers? God bless the mother fucking US of A. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/30/us/green-beret-who-beat-up-afghan-officer-for-raping-boy-can-stay-in-army.html?_r=0
>>703075889
>http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/30/us/green-beret-who-beat-up-afghan-officer-for-raping-boy-can-stay-in-army.html?_r=0
Literally the 1st paragraph
>A decorated United States Army sergeant who hit an American-backed Afghan commander for raping a boy will be allowed to remain in the military, a spokesman said Friday.
>>703075211
I have a weird feeling that they will hit 25 and then turn into a deformed potato
>>703075850
For the people hosting it, obviously. I don't know if they would be legally obligated to give you your IP address, but I think 4chan just complies with whoever asks.
>>703076000
whatever you fucktard. The point is to call attention to the situation. and God save the queen or God bless the US..A - because this shit happened, and (fuckwad) it's in your myopic brain now. faggot.
>>703075889
Can't see anything wrong with this. Hope the boy is okay.
>>703075773
At least there was no personal info in it.
>>703076000
>http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/30/us/green-beret-who-beat-up-afghan-officer-for-raping-boy-can-stay-in-army.html?_r=0
>Literally the 1st paragraph
For the win - (only if you're literate) -An initial decision to forcibly discharge him by Nov. 1, 2015, was delayed; in March 2016, the Army said it had postponed the discharge decision again, until May 1, to allow time for Sergeant Martland to appeal.
>>703076204
Holy fucking autism. Please stay in school.
>>703076207
wow, you're a sexy son of a gun.
>>703076375
>Army sergeant who hit an American-backed Afghan commander for raping a boy will be allowed to remain in the military.
Did I make it easier for you? Are you actually fucking stupid?
>>703076129
here's how it will work 90% chance
>>703076396
higher educated than you, I guran-fucking-tee it. and your idiotic response ignores me being correct. Calls you a faggot again. (No disrespect to Gays intended).
>>703076469
Why?
>>703066275
literally no response? even though this is a perfect case that displays how protect act should not stand in SCOTUS?
>>703076545
Can you please read past the 1st sentence you mega-retard? You lost and now you are crying like a BITCH. (cause you are 1)
>>703076611
>ignores me being correct
>Posts a nytimes reeeeeeeeing about the us of a is kicking an officer out of the military for hitting a commander who raped a boy
>The story is literally about how he isn't getting kicked out of the army for his actions
>higher educated
Reading comprehension is pretty hard.
>>703076633
Your response took me past where I can see, acknowleding empathy for the raped boys... of which this thread is about lolitas... mind you... but our shota /b/ros should be allowed to speak... (until I get banned again, for having too much freedom or something... I swear 4chan is run by the Jews that don't support Israel or Democracy, or something)
>>703076687
Holy fuck you are as stupid as I assumed you were.
>>703076828
It's hard reading to the 3rd paragraph isn't it? Plus what are we talking about, eh? Nozomi Kurahashi proves you are a FAGGOt immortal. (little t intended)
>>703076926
Much smarter than anyone in your family.
>>703076820
>>703077073
because he assaulted a commander instead of taking the proper steps, how fucking autismal can you be? You think you can attack someone and get away with it because that person was doing something against the law as well? Well I have some fucking news for your small mind.
>>703077153
Doubtful considering you can barely fucking read a news article.
>>703077330
dude shut the fuck up. you lost. abandoning thread (because you're dumb).
>>703076551
kek ks that the grandma from wind waker and the old lady from the batsu game pie hell?
>>703077427
Next level autism.
>>703077330
you didn't stop to think. this is why you fail at life.
>>703077515
>you didn't stop to think. this is why you fail at life.
Keep trying.
>>703077409
>>703077366
>>703077333
>>703077302
>>703077274
>>703077215
>>703076820
>>703067870
>>703064491
>>703064408
>>703064376
anybody know if lolis are legal in the netherlands?
>>703077732
>On October 1, 2002, the Netherlands introduced legislation (Bulletin of Acts and Decrees 470) which deemed "virtual child pornography" illegal.[17] The laws appear to only outlaw "Three-dimensional, realistic images representing a minor engaged in a sexually explicit conduct". In January 2011 the law was expanded and non-realistic 3D images are now counted as child pornography.
>>703077692
alright - I have a finisher for you, killjoy. Nozomi Kurahshi and Rika Nishimura. you missed every point and now I just Beethovened you. An American soldier was kicked out of the army for beating a muslim boy raper, events withstanding. thanks....
>>703076670
This one seems more recent, though.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Handley
>>703078330
Handley, if I recall correctly, plead guilty. there was no trial, basically.
or am i wrong?
>>703077993
In a recent case, after viewing the images in question, which were created on a computer, the court opined that the virtual child pornography images did not fall under criminal law.[clarification needed] "All images can be termed as (pornographic) (three dimensional) cartoons, animations, or drawings. The court concludes that it is immediately obvious to the average viewer that the event is not real and that the images are manipulated images and not realistic".
>>703078693
at least you are capable of letting someone else think for you, I'll give you that.
>>703078520
I think so, yes.
But after reading a bit more from the sources in wikipedia, it seems the protect act changed language after the case mentioned first, to include only "obscene" things. Which is how Handley was sentenced. I don't think it's been explicitely ruled against, and with the current political climate I'd wager you would be screwed.
>>703075011
What about when you save a picture locally? What will be visible when using htttps? Same thing? Will the provider see that you downloaded an image?
Same for posting; https only shows that I connect to 4chan, and my isp wont be able to see that I've posted a message?
>>703079445
I thought "obscenity" (along with Miller test) was another part of protect act? Also, literally everything can be tossed into that one. I mean, golden showers? Or even sex not in missionary position and/or not for the purpose of procreation? OBSCENE, someone will definitely rule that.
Again, I wonder what SCOTUS would have to say about that one, since according to that law.duke one I pasted they seem to have (or - at least - had) common sense, which I've gotta say was a nice surprise, even though I'm not even an American.
>>703079703
>What will be visible when using htttps?
In general SSL protects you from eavesdropping. What they can definitely see is that you are connecting to some https server, but they have no idea what is being sent.
And since for example 4chan is hosted on cloudflare, you actually connect to cloudflare servers which host shitloads of other sites too. A https connection to 4chan looks exactly the same as a connection to countless other sites hosted on CF, since the actual site/domain you're accessing is sent in http1.1 headers (the Host header), which is obviously sent encrypted (SSL works both ways, so whatever you sent and receive is encrypted).
another thing is attacks against SSL and weak ciphers.
>>703071583
>Sunni rated higher than Shia
>Sunni
AKA the ISIS ones
No thanks, I like my subhumans tame.
>>703080475
>>703074315
Because no one really cares
They do monitor for actual cp, but they don't really give a shit about this stuff.
>>703080228
That clears it up a lot. Thanks for the explanation anon.
Basically you're fine as long as they don't find the stuff on your disk. Unable to be found out through monitoring. Also impossible for context of messages to be seen unless they contact the host of the website and they cooperate. Did I say that correctly?
does anybody remembers that comic or little girls having sexual adventures with really chessy dialogs? ive been searching it for years now
>>703074485
Explain?
