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Who of you have awoken? I know there must be some of you out there. How are you enjoying the game of life so far? Too much worry I feel like, it is good to be back to form.
>>702571033
is this the universe?
>>702571847
The universe is infinite. It is just pure consciousness. We are playing this game called being human. We've played the cat game, and the dog game and so on and so forth.
We've made ourselves forget this for it to be more immersive. But now it is time to wake up.
>>702572123
I would want to remember being a cat
Way too much worry inherent in the game. Waking up to realize you're everything is a trip.
>>702571033
>>702572591
Indeed. I wonder how long until everybody wakes up?
Not fully awoken yet, but I've felt the presence of those who soon are.
Mushrooms don't make you enlightened, they make you a dickhead
>>702572650
How old is this?
>>702572837
You will awake very soon too my friend.
>>702571033
*raises hand* :3
>>702572123
would I have a better chance at awakening as a cat or as a human?
>>702572953
It is strange to wake up, It's like waking up from a long dream. Where you didn't quite now what was going on. But I am surprised at how quickly it escalated. Caught me off guard. I am guessing you can't have been awoken much longer than me?
>>702571033
when you wake up, youre not supposed to announce it. it repels people from your message.
just loving guide. check your ego at the door nigga
>>702573209
honestly i don't know what you mean by awoken i was thinking it was something to do with lsd or red pills
>>702573205
All our consciousness are one, connected so as to say. You think thoughts because a cat has already though them. You all expand our total awareness
>>702571033
>claims to be Enlightened
>posts on 4Chan asking who else is
>spews some crystal , star child bullshit
If you really were enlightened you would understand how trivial it is to ask it of others. You don't know anything other than what trippy shit you get HIGH off and you are still a child in relations to what is enlightenment.
Go back to playing with your crystal rocks fagget
>>702573344
There is no I. We decided to post this. You too, because we are all connected.
I awoke as a dragonkin. I pity you humans still asleep. Worship me.
>>702571033
Man we are just hairless monkeys, get over it.
Who can say? The more who awaken, the easier it is for others. One's self-realization changes the whole of reality. But in all of human history there's yet to be the critical mass of realization necessary for the reaction to spread to everyone. I sometimes wonder if it'll come not by traditional introspective methods, but by a redesigning of the human mind through genetic interventions that lower the barriers to realization.
>>702573560
Why would it be trivial? I really don't have any idea how many are yet? I might even be the first. I figure that just might be so.
>>702571033
I'm ready to wake up now...really, i wanna wake up.
I have a message from the universe...
Your mother will
In her
>>702573344
Op is just some lsd fagget who read some star child book.
Good call anon , I'll see you on the other side
>>702573716
I am not sure what will happen in the future. That's the fun of the game though. You wouldn't want to play it if you already knew what happened.
>>702573620
so you can understand, the part of me that use to have en ego posted this. i make no claims, i only speak about shit like this to people who know im buddhist and are interested. other than that i just push out as much love and positivity i can.
theres the ol saying in buddhism. "when youre ready, the guru will appear."
most people arent ready. youre just reppelling people with this
again leave your ego man, its unattractive.
>>702573774
Think of your life? What separates it from any other game you've ever played? Is it the graphics? Is it that the inputs are more advanced? That you can feel?
It is all just a more advanced xbox controller. And we are playing this game together.
>>702571033
This experience fucking sucks and hate it.
I've had pneumonia twice, blueballs twice shingles, lived in a basement, bitten by bugs and turned down a perfectly good vagina.
The fuck is enlightenment ¿
>>702571033
Please oh wise one, teach me in the way of your ancestors
>>702571033
Hey OP when are you due back at the methadone clinic?
>>702573996
See you're interacting in the game now, creating a conflict. Because conflicts are fun, if we didn't have any conflicts what so ever, life would probably get boring. But we are great at creating those because they are fun.
>>702574080
I believe that our purpose in life is to wake other up. But some don't want to wake up. They enjoy living their every day lives, drinking their beer, smoking their weed, and just being left alone.
I have faith that things will change...soon.
>>702574291
It's fun to make yourself laugh :) I've really adopted this motto of trying to be always kind. You know to decrease the entropi of the system. I would like to go back to paradise sooner than not. But you made me laugh, so I figure it was still a kind act in a way.
>>702573996
/x/ is that way nigger. Gtfo my /b/.
I woke up from a nap an hour ago #enlightened #finallysee #dreamsarereality
>>702571033
Lucy is my favorite, she has awoken my third eye. If your are having a rough time try hitting her up, but see her for short ammounts of time.
>>702574334
Every mind is connected. Me and you being more or less awake will advance it very rapidly.
>>702574301
i dont know what you are talking about. im just giving advice to someone whos interested in stuff that i know alot about.
>lovingly guiding
especially to the seekers.
>>702574582
Lucy=Lucifer...SHE DA' DEVIL!
>>702574540
Indeed
Careful not to venture into the wrong path. You might first be under the impression that it's the enlightened path, but in reality, it's a path to deception. The fallen ones are not to be trusted.
>>702574639
Life is just one choice after another. Is it not? How is that separate from any other game you play? Like chess? or Halo?
It is all just a big game for our own enjoyment. Life is not serious, it is a game for our pleasure. Do good and paradise will come sooner.
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>>702574800
Can people be fallen? Is that like a thing? That just seems like another fake conflict we've created for our enjoyment.
>>702575007
No, they can't.
The universe is indeed one big game. The Hindus call it Lila. But after a point, the sense of being a player disappears. The false self disappears and with it the idea of a center that acts and decides. One dissolves into the one, and being and doing are the same thing.
>>702574878
right, an illusion.
>>702575303
>>702575007
The fallen are the angels (aliens) who defected from the all mighty and decided to empower man with knowledge (God commanded not to eat from the tree of knowledge).
>>702575303
But we created this actor to experience all of this. It won't disappear until you want out.
>>702575458
>>702575390
Indeed. It will soon become a paradise when everybody awakes. Can't wait!
>>702575303
It's just a matter of time, but we convert from being individualistic (money, sex, power, etc) from being knowledgeable that we are in fact all one within the universe. Fear is the greatest evil in the universe.
>>702575565
>>702575686
Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams
>>702575477
youre here because of your karmic connection man. no actual enlightened person would prefer to be here. the ones that do come back only do so to guide others in the right direction.
>>702575565
it aint gonna happen. the nature of the cycle of death and rebirth is suffering.
>>702575922
is anyone going to explain what awakening is
>>702575922
Nothing is real though. Suffering is just another conflict. The only real thing is paradise. This is what Plato and the rest of them were saying from the beginning. We just didn't have the right perspective back then.
We will soon though.
>>702576400
Awakening to the fact that you are in a simulation. That not is really real. It is all imagined. A game for your enjoyment.
>>702576558
a man-man simulation or otherworldly?
>>702576558
How do you know you are actually awakened, and not just following a false path?
>>702576661
Otherworldly. There is no "real" as we humans know it. Real is just everything that exists. Everything you can imagine. There are no limits to the imagination.
>>702576876
Words cannot do it justice. When it happens to you, you will just feel that your mind has expanded. And there are no insecurities left inside of you. You've processed them all and left the ego behind.
>>702576898
how exactly did you realize that you're in a simulation
>>702577048
> left the ego behind
and still you're on /b ? you couldnt have choosen a bit more lighter place to be all awaken and shit on?
>>702577213
I did the research. Nothing really exist. Observer effect tipped me of on it. But I've been trying to figure it out for a long time. Just finally realized it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2sYIORYb7Y
This is just the plot to the matrix, fuck off and get a job druggie scum
>>702577301
I've always liked the community here. They make fun of us for being fat nerds but we are inside some drunk fratboys telling dirty jokes. Figure 4chan is open to so much that someone here would have realized it.
Don't judge 4chan. It is all just part of the creation.
>>702577048
There are many different sects of people that think they have awakened as well, and they typically feel a sense of enlightenment and feel as if their mind has expanded, aswell. However, most of these, if not, all of these people have just put themself in a state of mind because of their new belief that they have accepted to be true.
What makes you think that you are any different?
>>702577618
It's not though. But life is fractal so similarities do appear.
>>702577782
Because there is not other answer other than that everything existed. Something exists obviously, therefore the simplest answer is that everything does. It has been right in front of us the whole time.
This is just one of our imaginations.
The human game sucks. There's too many young souls here. I want to go back to what I was.
>>702578392
I don't think anybody really remembers what they were before. Not even me. Infinity is a big concept to take in.
i believed all this shit for years and it got me nowhere in life, i was a youth/early adult doing psychedelics going through every state of mind mentioned above here sober and drugged out of my mind.
guess what, i built my self a social life and cleaned up and i can finally see how stupid this is. Don't get me wrong i love the idea of everything being so mystical and magical but seriously people, just be a good person and get some discipline in life and you should do just fine.
>>702575458
no, we're not.
I did at the beginning of the year.
The energy reaction was quite interesting. I'm not sure of what exactly happen but hey any general awakening description fits. I.e. realized fundamentals Truths/Wisdom. I'd also throw in my whole brain got rewired at once.
I was Mr. Reason/Science only guy before. Very rigid and unbalanced.
Kinda mindblowing going from that perspective to this new perspective. It is jarring trying to figure out what is real and what isn't. i.e. energy, aura, "spirits/devas", afterlife?, crystals?, and all that stuff the Theravadans talk about
Started meditating a while after the experience and almost immediately third eye sensations came and have been here since. Still trying to open it up but recent experience made me realize I might not be ready to handle what I'll see. Also, I think some people have identified me and when I've been approached my lower spine/Root Chakra freaked the fuck out and screamed bloody horrible energy pain to get me the fuck out of there to keep me alive. that was particularly fascinating.
A big difference is that now I find it harder to connect with others but at least now I am not miserable for being alone. Still looking to connect with others but have filter through psychopaths, delusional, and the insincere/casual.
>>702578526
I sure wasn't a goddamn human
>>702577962
>"Something exists obviously, therefore the simplest answer is that everything does"
So you are supporting your assumption with an assumption, inside of an assumption. It doesn't really sound like you have any evidence besides "I can feel it, therefore it must be true." I'm not saying you're wrong because, let's be honest, neither of us truly know what happens after we die, or why we're here; you may think you have it all figured out, but you also may have just fallen too far off the deep end.
>>702578733
Oh yeah. Should mention I have never done drugs, besides alcohol in moderate amounts.
Now I can if I focus hard enough experience "psychedelic trips" kind of visions without assistance of drugs or the harmful side effects/euphoria. I still won't do drugs, I'm afraid of what kind of permanent damage they will do.
Don't do them kids, they are not necessary.
I strongly suspect within this thread I am probably the only legitimate one, maybe a couple more.
>>702571033
To the ignorant this world seems random and unpredictable, but to the knowledgeable it becomes preordained and measurable.
>>702578626
We will create a paradise though. Soon. When everybody is awake.
>>702578733
You had a similar experience to me then. Very strange at first. You're so used to this rigid western logic. We will all be together soon. There will be no alone.
>>702571033
I made the mistake of majoring in physics and minoring in philosophy. i achieved ego death without drugs. id be a nihilist if i didnt know that belief in everything has a probabilistic value. finding what is most probable and following it to its logical conclusion is all that matters anymore.
I cant deal with you preachy faggots. Im going back to sleep
>>702578854
This should help.
>>702577494
>>702579512
A lot of people have awoke I see. But very few of us still realize what the future will become. I had doubt. I don't anymore I think.
>>702579600
Alright, thanks, I'll check it out soon. Can you give me a summary on what he discusses?
>>702579494
I noticed you in this thread.
Can't tell if trolling with all the lingo use or legitimate, which in that case I ask you the question: Why the spiritual lingo? You know you can still talk like a normal person. I considered going all spiritual mumbo jumbo but realized if I did it would be for ego and go down the path of delusion. Also, I would shoot myself in the foot when it came to communicate with everyone else.
Again, I suspect you are not legitimate. In case you are, you should be aware that you must be mindful of your perspective and put hard work to maintain "reasonable" perspective. It's fine to go all "We are all connected" every now and then cuz that perspective is enjoyable but it is very dangerous.
>>702579976
He discusses the observer effect. That we created this reality in a way that was so perfect that it could never be seen through unless you use knowledge. You would not be able to see it with your eyes. Only with your mind.
>>702580033
I am serious though. You could ask yourself why you are writing this. Because there is really no separation between us. We are one mind.
>>702580033
It is not "spiritual lingo", it is the truth. If you choose to find the truth spiritual then that is a fragment of your ego.
>>702580271
How exactly does the fact that he is responding in a discussion prove that we are all one consciousness?
>>702571033
Were you in the thread about the universe being a simulation yesterday?
>>702580536
Did I say that? Where?
>>702580688
Started it my friend. It was time for use to awake.
>>702580733
us*
>>702580376
I agree but it seems you are not aware of how you come off to others. You seem to want to awaken others but don't seem to be aware of the way you are perceived by others and how that can interfere in the process.
Cultural perception by others is real. I am cognizant of it and so do not find it "spiritual" just truth.
Others will not see it that way.
>>702580906
in order to appeal to people you must first prove you understand the world THEY see. good post.
>>702580906
This "other" will soon become an illusion though. So I felt that there was no reason to hold back anymore
#woke, right op?
why would you present your 'enlightenment' in a way that alienates you from others?
every single person on this planet knows something you don't, including bankers, insurance CEO's and used car salesmen. you're no more 'awakened' than your highschool bully.
>>702580733
I have been awake my entire life, since it was my desire before I incarnated here.
Life has more purpose than most give it credit, we must endure these trials in order to become more than we once were.
You have gotten 33 many times, wonderful!
>>702573753
Holy shit the special snowflake is real. You are on the wrong site faggot.
>>702581126
I am awakened in the way that I realize that is all a game. There are not others, we are all one. Every though you have ever had is just a reaction in the chain of thinking. In the subconsciousness.
tl;dr version - "awake" means accepting all things as they are - knowing all emotions within you are the same every other human follows, but the way they express it differs based on their life experiences. Basically, if you put yourself in others situations, you can literally understand how they think. gay shit but also true shit.
>>702581261
Yeah, these trails we have created. I hope we will prevail soon. I know we will.
Everybody has been awake their whole life, we just couldn't see it yet. Truly grasp it and embrace every meaning of it. That comes now.
>>702579316
I can honestly never tell when this shit is bait. So well played either way I guess.
>>702581455
That is one perspective on reality, there are many more.
>>702581455
the opposite of awake would be being someone who looks forward to and prioritizes empty novelty and superficial desires, like a software engineer working 9-5 so he can buy the new DLC for his favorite games, ignorant of the fact that he can choose to do whatever he wishes whenever he wishes if he could withstand breaking societal restraints
What is this
>>702581407
how does your realisation affect the way you live your life?
>>702581455
More as in that we've already experienced everything. Because we are not separate. We are one huge mind experience the universe it has created. And we have created an infinity before it too. Each different.
>>702581665
one perspective that covers all truth from the same perspective many who frequent this forum can understand. Basically im speaking english to americans and youre speaking polish.
Truth is subjective however context is not.
>>702581656
It is not. Trust me, and trust yourself. You know this to be true deep inside.
>>702581713
Well said.
>>702581803
possibly, thats only speculation, however what i described is empathy and can be proven empirically unlike your theory. Although id ont disagree with it - it would still behoove you to speak using what is objective.
>>702581770
When everybody realizes that we are all one. We will change this world for the better. No more greed. No more ME! ME! ME!. It's only gonna be US and what we make of the world together.
Walked in on a bunch of high schoolers on drugs here it seems
>>702581557
I could see it from the beginning, through dreaming I have lived out countless lifetimes and I have seen realms much more detailed and complex than this one.
One life, one incarnation, for me were and are many. I am here, yet I am not part of your collective past, present, or future.
>>702581656
"we will create a paradise soon when everyone is awake"
aka social media is changing the publics views on basic human rights, and once we get past a few years of taking sides and fighting each other, eventually we will stop being animals and equal human rights and systems that implement them will begin to take hold.
>>702582032
Man do you know how much research went in to this? It's not exactly easy to summarize all the evidence for it in a few sentences. Still beyond my abilities. There is a video series of lectures that proves it. Empirically. By a NASA scientist.
>>702582253
but remember everything is in cycles, so after we achieve peace, we begin working toward war.
>>702582063
i'm not talking about everybody, i'm talking about you right now. how have you changed your life and what you are doing with it since your 'awakening'?
why are you waiting on everybody else?
>>702582318
research that you cant show anyone or compile into an objective explanation im guessing because of how many ways it can be interpreted im guessing? Cosmos is a really good show huh
>>702582227
Not part of my collective past, present or future. My human mind still struggles with this.
>>702582351
because millenials need state assistance to do anything, hes waiting until social programs get more funding.
>>702581813
It covers your experience, not my own entirely. We are here, yet I am not of the same origin as you.
Imagination is the limit of hour individual reality.
>>702582442
Exactly. We all have a different experience as separate humans. We all need different things I figure to awake.
>>702571033
It comes from within and the alignment of the spirit mind and body and the 7 chakras and body energies and 12 mental states and personalities
>>702582617
*your
>>702582227
you can imagine these things because youve read them. Technically we are the same but at the same time we are all individual. Humans have the unique ability to record their memories to be experienced by future generations - humans are the only species that can literally "Experience" stories they are told. This is how we evolve. IT is why religion has not faded, religious interpretation is human emotional anthropology.
>>702582351
Together we are strong I figure. There is no me waiting. Why are we waiting you mean? I've been improving my life, and peoples around me. Just not on a large enough scale yet.
>>702582063
Don't force others to join your collective... that would be an act of extreme aggression.
>>702582636
different things when seen from the outside, the same emotional needs when you look at all the pieces and patterns and not the individuals.
for instance, find me a child that wasnt raised by a balanced 2 parent family and ill show you someone who interprets their emotional instability as mysticism or an intensely skewed vision of them self.
>>702582617
The individual reality is just an illusion too though. But one we would rather not look past since it would kind of spoil the game.
>>702582063
And then a few years later they will all be killed by people wanting more, thus is the circle of life.
>>702582928
Have you guys been keeping this secret? Why? We could create paradise so much faster. That might be my human ego talking. But I really feel deep inside of me that improvement can never be bad.
>>702582807
you can't actually be specific about any changes you have made to your own life or others', which leads me to believe the only thing that has changed for you since your 'revelation' is that you have started spewing dogma and believing that you are superior to others.
let me ask you, who has been the person to hurt you the most in your life (apart from yourself), how did they hurt you and why did it hurt?
>>702582483
So me of us are from outside the origin of everything here, we are not from any single consciousness split.
We stand alone watching you experience yourself as the many, guiding you towards a perfect union.
I'm also awakened guys! Started fapping to pizza today but didn't finish! Hooray for enlightenment! I'm one of you. We truly are smarter and light years ahead of everyone else in the world. Btw I'm a virgin, I dream of sex every night but I'm still awake!
>>702583174
There is no circle of life. There is only what we can imagine. And what we want as a collective. What we truly want deep inside of us. To return to nirvana.
>>702582617
prove it, live based off your imagination and show me how it exists in reality. People who say this often are very low income and use intoxicants to make the mundane seem more meaningful. Because if you didnt, you would turn to aggression.
No one can explain your experience exactly, however you can take others' interpretation and see how theirs compares to your own and why it differs if you are "awake" enough - all experiences on the separate emotional spectrums, are the same, their difference is only an illusion/superficial/on the outside.
>>702577782
Thank you for the apt description of the "newly awakened" perspective.
I'd add on that although their beliefs could be true their state of mind is insincere and probably delusional. Parroting Wisdom =/= Wisdom
This can apply to all kinds of perspective i.e. Rational Scientist, The Western Philosopher, and the Mystic.
ITT: we pretend like being dicks is doing anything but getting ourselves off
>>702583299
How my life has changed? I lost an huge amount of weight, found myself the love of my life (whatever that means) and I've just become a better person. Kindness beyond mere words flow inside of me.
>>702583410
You're still asleep if thats what you believe. There are always multiple angles - and in this case, destruction is the awakening that begins once peace reigns, it has been like this forever, and forever it shall stay. Death and life will never stop dancing even if you can imagine it.
>>702583616
to expand, for instance, my nirvana comes at your death.
>>702582789
I have experienced them, not read them. Why does my experience garner such a hostile reaction?
Telling others what, why and where their experience sits is a very closed minded reaction.
>>702583616
Death is just a return to form though. A return to infinity. You're mind is still corrupted by thoughts of suffering. There is no suffering. Because it's not infinite. Suffering is always temporary. Bliss is eternal. That is what it means to awake.
>>702583597
you didn't answer my question about being hurt. also, why did you feel the need to find the one specific individual who is the love of your life if we are all one and you see no distinction between individuals?
saying 'together we are strong' and that we can only change the world for the better when we are all working together tells me that the only thing you really have to contribute is your 'enlightened mindset', and that actually you just want to be supported by people who put the work in. grow a fucking garden, go and volunteer at a soup kitchen, have a real, genuine conversation with a homeless person.
philosophy baketh no bread, friendo.
I hope someone is taking screenshots for cringe purposes. I would, but I'm on my phone.
>>702583760
There still is no you and I. Death is not an object. It is an illusion.
>>702583112
If that were true you were never one, and cannot exist in a singular sense here either.
There is more than one origin in the vast reaches of eternity.
>>702584021
We are all part of the one. But some are more one than others at this time.
The change will come from inside. The most important thing to do right now is to awaken the rest. That is something I feel inside that we all want. It is truth because I am writing it now. We are all one, so this is what we want.
>>702584211
We can exists in what ever way we choose to. As a whole or as the individual.
>>702583243
"Improvement" may be a prison for others, and paridise for a limited few.
Let the course guide itself.
If it is meant to be let it become so without force.
>>702584518
We are part of the course. It is not separate from us. There is a reason why we choose to write this.
>>702584287
>Some are more one than others at this time.
Listen to yourself, man.
You will not awaken anybody by implying that your are more spiritually advanced than them and making this all about yourself, your mindset, your progression. The way to show others is by doing. You need to make a tangible change so that other peopple can see that doing good things yields results.
You still didn't answer my question about being hurt. Why can you not acknowledge and embrace darker parts of the human experience?
>>702584518
Helping is not the use of force. It is the opposite.
As far as opposites go in this reality. There really are none in infinity.
>>702584628
Yeah you got nothing better to do. No actual ways of reducing suffering then spouting the same bullshit only you understand over and over. Go make some sacrifices if you want enlightenment
>>702584810
Who is this "you"? This is all a reflection of your thoughts as well. A struggle it would seem. A conflict for our enjoyment. But bliss and love has always the truth. Darkness is just something we created so we would have something to overcome. A conflict.
>>702583424
Prove it? Prove what you say is true, you cannot either.
I experienced this, it is my experience. I cannot share it with you beyond words, even if we were face to face and you cannot either.
If the microscopic and the macroscopic are infinite, if the multiple realities are scaling in detail and complexity, than even greater experiences wait to be had beyond what I have experienced.
>>702584893
Why are you so aggressive towards "me"? You do understand that you are using talking to yourself right? Ones does not want to be aggressive towards itself. That increases the entropy. That is not our collective goal.
>>702584021
I like you.
>>702584075
right, not you as an individual, you as in you and all like you who carry your ideals. There are several different forces all within the same shells, and we eventually come together in balance, then drift apart and consume each other violently until we merge once again. There is a circle to life, you have no idea what youre even talking about. Look up every instance of recorded history and religion, every era follows this very same cycle.
>>702584810
I'm the other awakened guy from earlier in the thread who tried having a discussion with him.
I am pretty sure he is at least going deep into delusion. Makes it confusing cuz his claims are the truth but his mindset is clouded. But he is just spouting generic mystic quotes at this point.
He might be trolling us too tho.
>>702585276
You like a part of yourself. All a reflection of the whole being.
>>702585226
You're gonna suck your own dick tonight aren't you
>>702584371
Exactly, and some of us are not from any singular collective.
>>702585345
That has only been the cycle because of fear. Awakened creatures do not act in this manner.
>>702585193
Rome, Pagans, Greece, pretty much every society that ever reached metropolis size - anthropology and religion proves this cycle, all you have is "dude my imagination is limitless" What I speak coincides with reality, what you say isnt even validated by your own observations, its simply what you *want* to be real.
>>702585368
Your unwillingness to embrace new ideas says a lot about the kind of experiences you've had.
>>702585470
We are all part of the collective. That is one of the few truths in this world.
>>702585053
Okay now I'm convinced I am never going to get through to you. You don't want a conversation, you don't want a give-and-take, you don't want dynamic exchange (which is the essence of this life).
You want to be a lighthouse. You want everyone to listen to you and blindly accept what you are saying and you believe you know better than everybody else. You deny separation but you tell others that you are right and they are wrong. You do not give equal weight to opinions of others, even though you say we are all one.
Your belief system is a paradox, and I'm sorry we couldn't be of more help to each other.
I would be hapy to continue this conversation if you can answer my question about being hurt, because I refuse to believe you have never felt emotional pain in your life.
>>702585554
Based on the word of someone who has to use awakened because you can't describe the composition of psychology or society you speak of because what you speak of doesnt actually exist and will not exist except by division and segregation - in the same manner monotheism created a heaven (wealthy) and hell (poor)
>>702584628
Sure
>>702584836
Help can retard the progression of the individual and is not always welcome.
>>702571033
pretentious faggot
>>702585406
I like common sense.
>>702585584
We are all powerful as one. All the stands in our way is this construct called time that we've created. Imagine a million years in the future. You really cannot. Humans have only existed for 200 000 years. And you are still very much human for now.
>>702585276
thanks, me too.
>>702585368
yeah there's no shortage of people latching on to the new-age hippie movement and just regurgitating dogma because it makes them feel superior, but i'm beginning to think this might just be a huge troll at this point too.
>>702585406
in the sense that a human is a whole being but comprised of individual organs with different purposes, responsibilities, aesthetics, and strengths/weaknesses. We've been made whole before, when it happens, we once again break apart, circle of life. Thats how life and death works.
>>702585789
Why does the life of my avatar concern you so much? It is truly irrelevant to this conversation because you have already lived my life and I have already lived yours and everybody elses.
Can any awaken or whatever tell me whether I should take up shaolin or grow up
>>702585796
Awakened is the most fitting word that came to me.
>>702585797
It is not help then.
>>702585980
Right, so you see the first part, where society bands together to make modern marvels and societies that work together like clockwork - but what you dont see is how the generations such societies make work to tear down and re-explore their purpose regardless of what sort of wonders they are attempted to be lulled by. Peace spawns war, war spawns peace. This cycle has not and never will change, despite your imagination.
>>702585965
What is that though? Why is it common sense that anything should exist?
There is no such thing.
>>702586319
because you dont actually know what youre talking about - you cant find the words that fit because what you're trying to say isn't real. You can only describe the feeling to me with subjective general terms.
>>702586257
I don't know. Awakening is realizing that all of this is a game. But that takes time I figure. And it will happen differently for each of us. I feel like it will happen soon though, time has been speeding up for a long time now.
>>702585584
History too is written by a select few, not every view is taken into account.
Perspective is all you have as well. We recall what we have taken as truth. Cycles are real, perspective is limiting when you cannot look beyond.
Earth cycles the sun, and still third are many more planets beyond it.
>>702586530
What you CANT do - is describe to me or provide examples of how the "awakened" operate in reality to be the example of unity that you are trying to make yourself out to be.
>>702586186
It concerns me because I want to know if you're real or not. We may have lived as each other, but we don't remember. So remind me.
Human emotion is not irrelevant, it is the most important tool we have if we are truely seeking spiritual awareness. I don't want this cold, clinical dogma, I want truth.
>>702584287
>some are more one than others at this time
>It is truth because I am writing it now. We are all one, so this is what we want.
Talking about waking up doesn't help people wake up, and speaking like an autist only alienates people. Besides, believing that we are all one, all connected, all part of the great Everything that is existence doesn't really provide a reason to behave any differently, unless you didn't understand why empathy was useful to begin with.
Circlejerking about being awoken isn't going to build the paradise you want, it's only separating you from the people who won't change. There are better ways to help people understand the nature of their existence than posting garbage-tier /x/ shit on /b/.
>>702586412
We've had war, it was only there as a conflict. Conflicts don't exist in the infinite. Black is white and white is black. There is no separation between the two. One does not cause the other. They are the same.
But not in this reality it seems. Here it is a conflict to overcome. To reach the perfect infinity again. As so many times before.
>>702586695
"there is a grain of truth in every desert of lies"
Just because a human wrote history, doesnt mean what they wrote, didnt happen, All it means is the angle which they try to make you support may be one of bias and you would need to realistically examine how such a situation would function on your own.
Youre like one of those college kids that goes crazy and kills themself or others because in philosophy class you were told all truth is subjective.
>>702585760
Break the chains of this limited reactionary mindset.
Therein exists more than one and zero, one and two.
>>702586843
Youre pretty much saying "I refuse to believe anything is different" even though the only proof you have is your own word. Its like kids with aspergers who refuse to believe anything but the logic they come up with through observance despite the fact that they like the critical thinking skills to properly interpret what they see.
>>702586356
Yes
>>702586726
Pain emotional pain is something humans feel, but since I was once under the delusion of being one I do have stories to tell.
The most painful thing that ever happened to me was the passing of my dear canine. The connection that I felt with that creature was unimaginable. The human part of my existence still mourns its passing greatly.
>>702586474
Situational context dictates common sense.
Much more exists than what can be perceived in this limited reality.
>>702586093
Yeah. I'm trying to filter through the psychopaths, delusional, arrogant, and insincere/casual myself just to find legitimate others.
This whole topic of wanting answers for the big questions is so volatile unfortunately.
I hope you believe me I really did experience what is understood to be an awakening experience. The reality of the experience is actually very "real" and "normal." I basically went from someone with deep emotional issues to a normal, decent functioning person who doesn't let volatile emotions rule him. The reality is that there are no quick fixes, no belief to go into that will solve your suffering. it takes work, active effort I exert every day to keep myself happy. I live by the wisdom that a lot of people naturally develop but it took a significant experience for it to sink in for me.
>>702587140
You are reflecting your own existence upon me. You see what you want to see. Not what is there.
Embrace the truth. There is no doubt.
>>702587354
Seems accurate. We do have a common sense in this world. Not in the way we think do.
OP. Work on your delivery a bit. Making statements without any bridge work between their understanding of the world and what you are trying to get across is wasting everyone's time.
>>702587430
There is truth in these words. Reality has always been heading for greater and greater heights.
My understanding is still limited, but this seems to be accurate. It explains we life on earth still hasn't died out. It has only gotten greater and greater, being pulled towards the perfect infinity of possibilities.
>>702587833
I was looking for the awakened though. They would know its meaning and come. Seems another crowed has gathered. That is the way the universe wants it.
>>702586905
>Youre like one of those college kids that goes crazy and kills themself or others because in philosophy class you were told all truth is subjective.
History is real, but the complete story will never be known. Every individual will tell you something different about any shared experience.
It seems you are projecting a familiar archetype upon me to discredit and dismiss something you cannot comprehend.
>>702588059
Too awaken more I figure.
>>702587494
But we are all one, so by me expressing my experience, you should be able to adapt to it and understand it by seeing it from your own perspective, by your own logic. I can do it for what you say, why can you not do it for what I say.
>>702587237
Wait, so you believe you're no longer human? That explains a lot.. Keep shilling, lizardbro / robro.
Don't forget, it's never too late to come back. Embrace joy, embrace pain, embrace humanity and embrace life. Don't forget doggo and don't forget you can have those expreiences of connection again, if you open yourself to them.
Love without fear, it's the only thing that makes the heartbreak worth it. Good luck #wokeboi.
>>702588093
>the complete story will never be known.
Except we can see it repeat throughout all known history over and over. The only ones who dont know are the ones that refuse to acknowledge that suffering is just as necessary as joy.
>>702588166
/thread
not enlightened enough to contradict their own beliefs. We're done here.
>>702588177
I am no longer human in my mind. My body is of course still this creation we call "humans". But my mind has been released from the illusion of it.
Pain is only there to show the way towards love. It is only a guide, not real in the sense of infinity.
>>702588312
Everything shapes our accounts of reality, and there are cycles which repeat, and stand alones which never do.
>>702587430
yeah man you can tell when people are being real and when people already have cut / copy responses and psychologial defense mechanisms such as denying emotional trauma effects them because they have risen above it etc.
keep up the good work /b/rother!
im really high, but you know you make good points anon, so help me out
>>702588585
The universe repeats infinitely every possible scenario. But in this game we have limited ourselves to a rule set. It is called time.
>>702588707
What do you need?
>>702588585
thats a very general way of saying "i havent noticed any patterns, but i notice lots of different things happen" Meaning you have studied zero history or religious anthropology.
You are giving me a recollection of human existence based off almost no life experience.
>>702588506
If you are no longer human them I am deeply sorry. I, for one, am grateful for my pain because it reminds me that I'm truely alive. You're missing out on half of your experience, and probably not truely appreciating the other half.
If something exists as obviously as pain, how can it not be real inside of infinity. Infinity, by definition, encompasses everything.
>>702588836
thank you
>>702588585
How can you believe we are all one when youve done nothing to understand the multiple instances of your self that have been through those cycles since the dawn of time.
>>702588815
Time is an illusion created by the movement of objects in relation to one another.
Fractal symmetry is the base structure of the universe, beyond this realm other rules apply.
>>702588886
There is not one history. Every possible history that could ever exists does. We are just so happening to be playing this one out now. But we can see the future.
pfft come back in a year newfags, and eat that sheet, ill pop up with you at my feet like tweets on feeds go beat that meat while i fly away you ain't got shit to say.
>>702572837
Soon, young padawin.
Honestly I've only tripped once and I gotta admit, it changed my life because it made me realize how to be happy.
>>702588675
thx man! i think this guy characterized it well btw
>>702577782
>>702588968
It is as real as you want it to be. You've felt pain? Well there you go, it. is real for you.
But only as a human. Being human is not truly being awake. To be awake you need to understand infinity. But you will realize it when you are ready.
>>702588886
Ha! You tell me why I think and what I know.
I think you misinterpreted my post
>>702571033
>game
ok plato, one more drink and its off to bed with you
>>702573623
Hail
>>702589062
Man you've figured out the fractalness of this universe too? I was reading so much about that lately.
>>702589051
Not that poster.
I believe we are not all one, but some may be.
>>702588969
You are welcome.
>>702578626
Couldn't of said it better myself anon.
>>702589338
It is all a big game. All of existence. All that could ever be and will ever be. A game for our enjoyment. That is simply why anything exists. Because we want it to.
>>702589064
No, we can predict outcomes - to an incredibly degree of accuracy depending on how much data you have to base it on. Google does this daily. You are making basic psychology into mystical nonsense. Even Nostradamus admits his wild predictions of the future that came true was based on his observations of his present paired with the reality that humans are animals that follow predictable instincts.
>>702589494
One and separate are all just concepts. We are what we choose to be. We've choose to be separate, but now I feel the awakening coming. I know it. And time will prove "me" right.
>>702589263
You're talking some Illuminati shit right now buddy. If being awake means relinquishing my humanity then I'll keep dreaming. But thankfully I've learned that life is not about rejecting what I am, it's about embracing it. Even the parts I don't like.
You were born human, that means it's your fate to have a human experience. You can't deny your pain by faking transcendence. Don't wait until your deathbed to acknowledge the truth, it will set you up for a painful re-entry.
>>702589737
We've built into our universe this principle of probability so that we would never be able to predict it 100%. Not until a very advanced state. When that state comes, we become infinity again I'd wager.
>>702589397
It is part of what defines this reality, but it is not everything.
Ask what sustains the laws of physics, what set us in motion, if matter is condensed energy and energy is a wave what sustains it?
>>702589334
Youre basing it off the examples youve seen, social examples of betrayal, lust, love, and friendship - along with rare examples that were likely a catalyst for change that you havent seen again since. Instead of admitting that these rarities have likely occurred millions of times before, you try to make it special and accept that reality and truth are subjective and that you can do or be whatever you imagine. But the reality is our emotions are predictable, and all youve done is adapt a new view to overcome your own insecurities, because if you didnt believe that, you would face depression just like you used to.
>>702571033
Immortal in the making here.. it is amusing at least.. so yes.
>>702589871
Human is just another state of being. We are all states of being. Human as I refer to it is only an illusion. What it means to be human is to embrace truth, not live a lie. An illusion must be broke before we can truly be human.
>>702589755
Except by "time" you mean the future, and by the time society changes its definitions and what constitutes being a part of humanity happens, your current existence will end, and you will come back, once again being unable to adapt to the reality you have been tasked with, because you are unable to accept the world in front of you as true, and will once again cycle through as an out cast.
>>702589755
Sure, individuals on the same frequency, those who share a similar identity, similar goals are beginning to awaken to each other.
Just promise you will honer those who choose to remain separate.
>>702589998
Our collective consciousness of it sustains it. It is as simple as that. If there is no us to observe it, then there is nothing beyond the mere endless possibility of it.
>>702589934
no, we are too separate to see the entire whole, probability no longer exists when you can see all known examples. We did not "Create" probability, just like we did not create individuality. All we have done is defined what already exists. This is the difference between actual "awakened" and the foolish like your self. People who are awake accept all that is infront of them as true, but understand the fragility of its existence and how malleable all truth is based on how it is seen. People like you accept no truths and become unsustainable as you wither away avoiding all responsibility because you can not accept its importance as true or valid.
>>702590299
Is that a choice though? Something inside me tells me its not. And this feeling has not let me down so far.
>>702590232
>What it means to be human is to embrace truth, not live a lie. An illusion must be broke before we can truly be human.
Totally agree, and I hope you can get there one day. Peace out #wokeboi.
>>702589597
no, you are but a speck, true enlightenment is realizing that without you the world would still rotate. Without people everything would still exist, you are the same as a dog, for it is a dog that sees you as nothing but being, where we classify everything to mean something when it means nothing.
>>702590576
however this will come to an end soon, the "spiritual" way to say it is soon we will have unified sight and will once again see ourselves as all part of a greater whole. The realistic way of saying it is soon google will compile social data gathered worldwide for years directly from cellphones and other electronics and we will be forced to see humanity for what it actually is and given no other choice to accept who we are until it is once again lost.
>>702590576
People like me? We are all one. My thoughts are just another cog in the game called life.
Truth does exists. That is what I have been explaining to you. The truth. The truth of our very existence.
>>702590621
Peace and love my friend.
>>702590052
No, sorry, that is not right.
Why do you try to cast others into a mold? Does it give you a sense of control?
I am who I am, my experiences are my own regardless of the fact others may have had them before, in fact that would be great if others had.
>>702590835
It will be lost again. and found. An infinity of times. But now it is being found again. And that is why we play this game. We love finding it out again and again and again. And we love the change afterwards.
>>702588059
You would be hard pressed to have any awaken in that manner. It takes time and exposure for people to digest and then to really understand
>>702591037
Being someone does not preclude you from being everyone. It is contradictory in the infinity.
>>702590391
I have thought the same! : )
I still know there is must be more to it...
>>702590919
We are all one in the sense we all have the same emotional capacity. However our interpretations differ, yours is not one of truth it is one of ignorance and defiance of what unity of life asks of you
i'm to high for this type of shit nigga
>>702591241
A mind once expanded by a new idea can never return to its original dimensions. This is how it begins. It has already begun.
It is truly inevitable now. But not in the bad way of everything being predicted. More in the way that our core essence longs for it.
>>702588059
You seek enlightenment, you seek to be awake, but that's only going to make your journey that much harder. It is something you just are, you just have to be. You don't seek awaken people, you just know that everyone is awake, cast doubt on no one. Too many people think nowadays, not enough people know. Just know, and use thought as well but not for knowing. If you build it they will come, not seek it and you shall see
>>702591297
There is always more I figure. It is infinite, remember?
Always more secrets to unlock.
How old are you OP?
>>702590592
If I choose to remain separate, and you or the collective hive mind says "NO! I WILL TAKE YOU BY FORCE IF NECESSARY SEPARATIST!" Then you have proven the evil of the collective.
>>702591497
Knowing, true knowing comes from the search. One who never looks for it, will never find it.
Opinions on AI?
>>702591037
Why do you avoid admitting your flaws? You can say im wrong, but you see in yourself exactly what I describe which is why you are trying to argue against it.
>>702573486
But if you think thoughts because a cat has thought them, what causes the cat to think those thoughts? What comes before cat? Where do thoughts even begin?
>>702591601
I am 20. I am infinite. Pick one? Kek
>>702591671
It's not something you can find, its something that you are, you have always been, that's how I know its nothing you have to seek
>>702591654
There is no force involved. People will come together because that is what they truly want. Not because anybody is gonna force them to become some kind of Borg thing.
ITT: people with spiritually inflated ego's claiming they dont have ego's
>>702591758
>capitilising kek
Do you think there's a possibility your beliefs might change in the next 10 years?
>>702591671
Searching will just wear you down, which is great because life is something that gets taken for granted a lot of the time and we should enjoy journeys, but the true happiness comes from only the last journey, the final suffering. Death, embrace it because thats when life begins. Until then stop searching for the unobtainable, just be.
>>702591712
AI is also just another creation of our minds. We will integrate with these creations I predict. All-though the future is yet to be decided.
>>702591549
Of course, I was referring to something greater than the endless mystery herein our realm.
>>702591791
Only in the same way someone who is white or black has always been white or black, but never knows this until they find evidence to prove this to them to be true. For example, a blind man that can not see his own aesthetics will never know what they are if they are never told. And then even still, to be that, they would have to accept it as true.
>>702591286
It does though, it would be a contradiction to claim anything else.
>>702591729
Thoughts are merely possibilities of what might exist. All exists.
In this version of the game it works like this, one separate part of our collective figures something out. Then it spreads and people build innovation because of it. Nobody thinks the exact same thoughts, it is a growing process.
>>702591925
Oh surely they will. But this basic truth will last an eternity.
>>702591472
You realize people are pre-programmed and they have to unlearn the first 18 years of their life right? then maybe start towards an understanding of Law and freedom. There's also the so called ruling class of the world pounding everyone down into base consciousness all day every day. If your actually trying to wake people up your going to have to start with the very basics
>>702592121
how do you know someone is white or black? you can not describe anything to anyone, because its all unique to the beholder. My blue might be your red, my happiness will be your sorrow, my skill is your weakness, this is why it is something that cant be sought. We dont know what anything is. We call white and black white and black because thats what we have been told. This doesn't make it true, we don't even know if its real or fake. Thats why it will drive you mad and its better to just be
>>702591714
You are telling me how I see myself? Are you sure you are not projecting your own flaws onto others in order to come to terms with them?
It seems as though you are from my perspective.
>>702591925
these idiots dont get that there are general "feelings" or "personalities" that are infinite, gods for instance, are the personification of personalities that existed in times before the level of social accountability that exists today. These "gods" or "personalities" exist even now, shining through in the form of demographics of humans following how they feel with little regard to what happens to others.
Yes, we are infinite, in the sense that consciousness will continue to occur and our base personalities will keep happening over and over.
But the reality is, he is 20, and he is using the malleability of existence to escape accountability of his actions.
>>702571033
Red Pilled anon reporting in. The more I learn, the more certain i know nothing.
>>702571033
>How are you enjoying the game of life so far?
I'm not a fan.
>>702591855
Then in your opinion what happens to individuals like me whom choose to remain separate?
>>702592548
I believe this complex idea with trickle down as more people expands their mind.
>>702592568
Except from a logical perspective, it looks more like you are attempting to redirect and use spiritual views to sustain an emotional standard you could not in the past. You made a hypocritical and contradictive statement regarding your views then refused to admit it and instead now try to say im projecting. You have done nothing but try to explain away reality and accountability then explain how im the problem.
>>702592554
There is no difference between real and fake. Everything is possible. So therefore nothing is also possible. Everything that can exist is "real".
>>702592571
What created, and what sustains this reality in your opinion?
>>702592582
I only know that I know nothing.
A good first premise. But I the statement is paradoxical by its very existence. We know all things. Not yet though in this reality.
>>702592920
which is why you should not seek, you already have what you need, thats why they call it awakening. not the "finding" or the "stumble upon" because we already are what we need to be. I am today who I was meant to be yesterday, it's only now that I have risen from slumber instead of my lucid dreaming.
>>702592871
You may have mistaken me for other posters, where did I contradict myself?
>>702592732
You will change as the system evolves. This is just what I figure. Not claiming this as any absolute truth. You will become one again when you choose to end your existence. You won't live in this state for any infinity.
>>702592920
Which brings us back around to the fact that everything that exists is real since anything that can exist is real, and that without adaptation to that reality, you will be forced out of sync with it and live in turbulence. Which means you are forced to accept that our individuality is real until it no longer is - you are merely stating the obvious which is "eventually, the cycle of life will return to one of unity" which is true, but what exists is the reality that we are still returning to unity, so individuality is real until that phase ends. "awakened" accept this and know how to manipulate individuality which in turn manipulates reality.
>>702592778
You know the story of Hiram Abiff and his death? As an example. Even when accosted by the three ruffians and killed for the secret he didn't tell them. It was because even if he told them they would have no understanding of it. Equilibrium means nothing to someone with out a full understanding. Just my two cents.
>>702593129
"All things are uncertain in nature" would fit better.
>>702593192
I do not seek, we seek. My realizations are not an accident. It is part of the process of growth. As so many others before have advanced reality.
>>702593319
Maybe so, I have thought the same before.
I am glad you are not claiming absolution like many of the others.
>>702593405
Majic and dark sorcery...
>>702593526
they are not, I agree,its like watching the child touch the stove, you want them to understand but they cant until they touch it. have fun on that long journey, remember life is short, you were born just yesterday and tomorrow you will die, just dont forget to enjoy it in between
>>702593405
But this is not a "true" state, this is what happens before. A state of conflict. Like a fetus in the belly waiting to be born again.
>>702593710
Sine wave, red and blue(doplar effect/red|blue shift), duality.
>>702593626
There are no absolutes in this. Because of infinite. It implies that everything has to happen, yet nothing too.
Wake up.
>>702593976
Red is the color representing sacred masculine, blue sacred feminine. The sine is also a corruption of the ying yang. The Center representing the unity is replaced with"Pepsi"... Selling you false unity and 99.9% of people don't see it. Everyone needs to learn their language first
>>702593288
>Imagination is the limit of hour individual reality.
>The individual reality is just an illusion too though
>Prove it? Prove what you say is true, you cannot either.
>imagination is limit
>but what we imagine is an illusion
>I cant prove i can make what i imagine real
You try to state that this is because of the truth of how all is real based off how we perceive it yet an illusion based on its existence in comparison to all life in the universe - but all youve done is admit that imagination is not the limit, because if we can not adapt to reality and work to make what we dream a reality by adapting it in some way, then it can not become reality.
No matter what you say, acceptance of your individuality and adapting it are the only way to make what you imagine real. While it is possible anyone may do this and any such reality is simply subjective based upon the views of the generation that implemented it - it is still the reality in which we exist and the history of which are universal truths that we must accept to exist in unity in this reality. Otherwise your idea that united and separate are the same is proven wrong, because while it may be an "illusion" your belief makes you separate from the whole which makes it real.
>>702593997
Yes, but claiming absolution in a limited sense and telling others there is nothing more is so narrow minded.
Darkness has its role too
Stay woke negro
