>be proud resident of Arizona
>felt like getting a new CCW
>went to the store, selected the gun I wanted
>handed over my DL, filled out a form
>walk around store for 5 minutes, looking at ammo and accessories
>guy comes back, returns my ID, sells me the gun
>in and out in 15 minutes, background check completed
Why the fuck does it need to be more complicated than this? I could have even loaded and holstered it while sitting in the parking lot if I didn't have to clean off the factory grease first.
This is what freedom looks like. If you can't do this in your state, you're basically a European.
>>701836588
???? the fact they background checked you means they took away from your freedumbs idiot. if you were really free you wouldnt get a background check and be able to freely purchase firearms no matter your status (felon, no flylist, ect).
>>701836588
Yeah that's great and all but apparently to some people freedom looks like not having a background check at all even if you are clearly psychopathic, aggressive, or otherwise likely to try to shoot someone in a circumstance other than self defense...
>>701836588
Are americans really this retarded
>>701836588
15 minutes of your life spent waiting, basically at the mercy of someone else? In those 15 minutes, your fate was not your own, someone else was busy deciding your outcome. You were practically arrested.
>>701836971
Which euro-shithole are you from? The one that can't carry tiny locking knives? Or the one where you can be arrested for sedition?
My guess is the former, because brits are literally retarded.
>>701836764
Relative freedom. The most freedom possible in a world where literal cucks and mentally-ill trannies make up a sizable portion of the voting population.
>>701837624
ok you want actual freedom? i live in Texas. right now i can take 100 bucks cash, go to a gun show (of which there is one constantly), and go buy a shotgun with 0 background checks, from a private seller. that's freedom.
>>701837914
oh yea, and there is no registration.
>>701836588
>Storing clips loaded
Lol good job Fucking up the spring tension.
Give good use to that shit and go kill some kindergartens
>>701836588
>needing a CCW
>needing a background check
>thinks he has freedom
literal statist cuck
"Proud Resident of Arizona"
Thanks for letting the illegals stream over your border and flood the rest of the country. No fucking pride at all.
>>701837914
You can do that in AZ too.
Wait, aren't balisongs illegal in Texas? -1 freedom point.
>>701836588
>Storing ammo in mag.
>being this retarded.
>>701837914
You can do that in most states. What's difficult is purchasing a CCW, concealed carry weapon. In Florida there is like a 2 day wait period between purchase and pick up
>>701836764
Why would we want felons that have been convicted of "violent" crimes, like armed robbery or assault, as well as mentally ill people, to be able to go in and purchase a weapon?
The entire point is to keep them out of the hands of people who may use them for the purpose of hurting others.
That post was probably bait, but oh well.
It's pretty much the same way here in NYS, OP. All I have to do is go in, pick out the whatever gun I want, if it's a handgun I have to show my pistol permit, if anything else no paperwork required other than a short yes/no list asking if you have a criminal (felony only) history or history of mental illness. Every time I buy a gun now I don't even have to read the questions, select no to all of them, then hand it back. Then they do the background check, I get my gun, and I leave.
Though for some reason, one time they put me on a three day hold and wouldn't elaborate as to why. It was strange, and somewhat annoying, but it never happened before or since.
>>701836588
>arizona
>millions of south americans, mexicans and muslims flooding in and you do nothing
>drugs illegal
>prostitution illegal
>usa has the most laws of any country in human history
lolololol
>>701838265
its simple mechanical knowledge that a spring in a compressed state will not lose potential energy over time. it is the act of loading and unloading tension of a spring that will lead to a degradation of performance. I.E. keeping magazine springs lubricated and loaded with ammo is a perfectly fine way to store said magazines.
>>701837334
No, because I know at the end of that 5 minute wait while they're on the phone that I'm going to get my firearm.
>>701838119
Or you know, protect my family using our excellent stand your ground laws... without getting convicted for excessive self defense or getting sued by the attackers family.
How does it feel knowing that an armed man could break into your house with an illegal firearm, shoot your dog, rape your wife in front of you, and then kill you both... all because your government left you powerless to do anything about it?
But I guess that's okay, as long the police show up 20 minutes later to write down what happened. Right?
>>701838101
>kek
my current understanding is that the right to bear arms is constitutional and this is why blind people are able to buy guns in america.
the question is where do you draw the line? the OP suggests that it is in reguard to freedom this means that everyone who is considered free is protected by the constitution. However if you consider the fourth amendment clearly the american people consider their right to privacy less important than the right to have a tool designed for the soul purpose of ending human life.
americans need to understand that for other people around the world this seems odd its all about where the line in the sand falls
>mentally ill
they started with involuntarily committed to psych ward, then they expanded it to voluntarily committed, now they're expanding it to telling a doctor you're depressed/being on prescription medication/medical marijuana lol
>felon
then they started expanding it to misdemeanors
your overlords like soros will pay dummies a shit salary to take your guns
>>701837379
But mostly alive...
>>701838452
Can't believe I'm taking bait like this, but armed criminal and trannies are the price we have to pay - in return, we will be equipped to handle them, by firing back from multiple weapons. With true freedom, they would not stand a chance. We would not need police, government or institutionalized justice systems, cause all the good guys have guns, and justice will be instantly delivered wherever needed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMc-TmKBMXg info wars was hacked
>>701838452
trust me friendo i believe anyone on any sort of suspected list shouldnt be allowed to purchase a firearm. but i dont think those people should be on said lists without due process. i was just making fun of OP, as his "freedom" is exactly the thing that gun nuts dont want; background checks on people buying guns. according to them if you can prove you are a US citizen, you should be able to freely buy and operate a gun no matter what.
>>701838757
>write down what happened.
Ha ha he thinks the cops aren't analphabets
The billionaires who own the politicians on both "sides" will take guns away. They're already federalizing the police. They're already giving the Internet to the UN to control information. The UN will take over policing eventually muahahaha
>>701838996
I bet some americunts have actually masturbated to this picture
Sounds pretty much the same as Ohio, at least for firearm purchase. We're an open carry state so to carry concealed we need a license, but I've never heard of anyone being turned down once they take the 8 hour training course.
>>701838820
>it's designed to end lives
>???
>therefore it's obvious that you shouldn't own one
You're missing something important there.
I think they all perfom equally when it comes to anheroing.
>giving the state your info for permission to protect yourself lolol
what a good goyim
"proud"
shoot yourself you slave
>>701836588
>This is what freedom looks like.
this is what stupidity looks like.
how much money is locked up in these toys? how much does it cost to play with them, per shot? how much time of your life sdoes that represent/ how much lost income because it is money not invested in an asset? how much time of your life, the only really precious resource you have, does that loss of income fail to free up?
this is failure not freedom. these are chains to the monetary system, sold to you by slavers who have made you think that you need this shit. it is worse than the tenons of makeup and cheap shit clothes that girls buy. this is stupidity being taken advantage of.
>>701838590
partially true anon, if you compress a spring past it's elastic limit, it will start to lose its energy, but springs in ammunition magazines are kept below their elastic limit when full. What can ruin them is fluctuation in temperature, which affects the energy stored in the spring and can lead to loss of energy.
but yea keeping them loaded shouldnt take away from their functionality at all.
>>701838273
and if ur joint happened to fall out of ur pocket 6 months free lodging at the county jail
>>701836588
Hello AZ friend...
I am impressed with your tale...
It usually takes me about 20 minutes...
I think because I have an Australian accent and Euro passport with my AZ CCW permit. It confuses the system.
>>701838101
It's not a God damn clip, it's a magazine.
>>701838927
Holy shit, what a terrible video. I'm genuinely sorry that I was number 3 to watch a few seconds.
Don't click that shit, niggas. It's someone moaning into a mike while clumsily trying to type URL's into a browser.
>>701836971
yes
>>701839240
Where do you live that you can buy a new firearm from a store without a background check? Somalia?
>>701838820
The reason we put so much priority on the 2nd A is it upholds the ability to enforce the rest. Without the right to arms, the rest of the amendments are just a bill away from not existing. You have to consider our origins for it to make sense.
Is /pol/ broken or something?
>>701838757
why wouldnt you spend money ensuring that no one could break into your house instead of having a western cowboy fantasy to shoot another person?
>>701838996
hnngghh...
On behalf of the United Kingdom, I whole-heatedly apologize to the rest of the world for the founding of America.
>>701839124
is it not odd to own something with a singular purpose which in an ethical society should never be needed. I accept arguments for guns for hunting or sport but lets face it thats not what we are talking about.
There is a presumption with this amendment that that it will always be nescessary or rather that no society will be secure or trustworthy enough to invalidate guns.
seems odd from the perspective of an outsider
>>701838949
People who think like that are usually retarded rednecks who don't understand that the (very short) background check is to prevent putting guns into the hands of violent criminals, so they think that their freedom is being infringed upon for having to wait five fucking minutes.
Obviously criminals will still get guns either way, but I'd rather wait five minutes than have Gander Mountain sell scitzophrentic Tom a Saiga AK clone then have him go to the local elementary school and shoot it up because the voices in his head told him to.
>>701839282
>guns are a waste of money
>I spend all my money on lucrative investments
Gee I sure hope someone with a gun doesn't forcibly take all your assets. If only there was some way you protect against that.
>>701839282
Woa woa woa slow down buddy 1 at a time
>how much money is locked up in these toys?
Handguns are TYPICALLY between $200 - $2,000 although they can go much higher
>how much does it cost to play with them, per shot?
Depending on calibre, about 20c - 50c but if you go a 22lr it's more like 3c
>how much time of your life sdoes that represent/
Does what represent? Pursuing the hobby? As much time as you choose to give...
>how much lost income because it is money not invested in an asset?
Shit, you're lookin at about $5,000 - why, are you poor?
>how much time of your life, the only really precious resource you have, does that loss of income fail to free up?
$5000? 50 hours? I dunno? Do you not buy anything with your paycheck?
>>701836588
Fuck off. I'd rather they spent a few days on it. Criminals can get them as easily as they want phone call up to a friend, steal it from someone that was too dumb to let them get close.
If there is a flag in the system it will stop at least the worse possible fucks from getting another one through legitimate means since they could have one already. It sucks that makes a de-facto registry of purchases but as long as the major political parties stop going for major policy changes and lets states line up in agreement with laws and makes a universal CCW thing between all boundaries it reduces dumb people from doing bad things, worse people from doing horrible things, and good people doing whatever they do.
>>701838757
Cuz I'm not fucking paranoid & gun crazy
>>701836588
I'm in the Nanny State of California. Too many Jews in public office (gee, I wonder if they're just civic-minded?). Too many gun laws. I can't own a standard 30-round magazine. It's pathetic.
>>701836588
Idk why you're bragging, 15 minutes seems way longer than its ever taken me to purchase in nevada.
I mean, 15 minutes is if im bullshitting with the dude behind the counter.
>>701839505
You can't take your autistic home fortress with you everywhere.
>>701839608
Instead of apologies, why don't you clean up your mess?
>>701839796
Yeah i feel bad for you. That recent round of laws really buttfucked you guys
>>701838757
yeah, which of those twenty or so weapons will you use? why do you need the other nineteen? do you have them loaded, or will you have to find the right magazine?
sorry you live in such a dangerous part of the world - it must be awful for you to be trapped in such a hell hole of uncivilised behaviour - why don't you leave it and go somewheere safe and civilised where you don't need to have twenty guns to defend yourself?
you know maybe that would be real freedom? Not living in fear and having to invest thousands of dollars in killing machines?
>>701839839
>what is a ccw
>>701839623
me too, which is why i think the proposed gun law recently to expand background checks to no-fly and terrorist watchlists isn't a huge deal. if anything, the fact those lists exists and that you can be put on them without due process is the problem, not that once you are on them you are restricted in purchasing a firearm. hell, none of these "they gonna grab my guns!" nuts will ever be on one of those lists anyways
>>701839883
Bad bait is bad
>>701839734
>Fuck off. I'd rather they spent a few days on it. Criminals can get them as easily as they want phone call up to a friend, steal it from someone that was too dumb to let them get close
I applaud your reasoning.
So if I anger a psycho and he phones a friend to get a gun, I should run to the store ASAP to fill in the form and wait for 2-3 days to get a gun and hope the phone-a-friend takes a wrong turn?
>>701836588
Real freedom would be going down to the mercantile store, Telling the proprietor which handgun you wanted, have him wrap it up with a case of ammunition and then going back home to shoot your cheatin wife in her head. Then putting your belongings together and taking to the mountains for a couple of years until the law and her relatives stop hunting your scruffy ass. At that time you show up in a new tow to court a fair lass that you can marry under a new assumed name.
>>701839282
>wasted time
>coming from a guy that, based on where we are, likely spends 70 hours a week playing video games on his PC
>>701839615
There are more guns than people in the US, all unregistered. Do you think Tyrone and Javier are gonna just hand in their stolen Hi-Points once they become illegal?
It seems really odd to Americans how Europeans think that making something illegal causes it to evaporate into thin air.
>>701839282
>Not knowing that's a stock photo
Shots range from .35 cents to some higher end rounds bring over 5 dollars a round. but that's were hand loading comes into play. How about people that build cars or non street legal cars they can't just drive down the street. Is that wasted. Stop being so dismissive about peoples past times and what they want to spend their money on. Is it in any way putting you in the poor house? My guess is it's not so why give that much of a fuck about other people's business
>>701840075
Kek
>>701839920
you proved his point anon.
>>701839839
you know what, that's a fair point. if i felt constantly threatened id probably want a gun too. that being said, i think you should work on improving the quality of your living environment to not be so damn scared/threatened all the time? I'm really not trying to be condescending, living in fear sounds really sucky, and like it would chip away at your quality of life
>>701839817
15 minutes total. Including selecting the firearm and waiting to pay.
>>701838870
lol, as free people are killed in the crossfire.
you want that sort of freedom go to Somalia, and see what a society without police, government or a justice system is like.
you going to shoot anyone who steals an apple, or an Apple executive tht steals 13 billion in unpaid taxes? is that the extent of justice in your gun fantasy world of freedom? how about someone who damages your car in an accident? or what about a person caught with drugs or child porn? Or is all that permitted in Freeland?
>>701840089
i didn't suggest making them illegal. I would however suggest that perhaps your amendments require amending.
also not europian there is more to the world than america and europe. there is even more than america europe and asia.
>>701840231
Thats fair. I usually know what im buying before going so that makes a difference
>>701840089
I second this. I never understood how this was supposed to work. Especially considering the folks who buy fire arms for their families and such. Police, military and the likes. Like they're going to enforce a law that would disarm their loved ones...
>>701840075
What do you think I am, some filthy casual?
>>701836588
goddamn this pic made me rock hard diamonds
>>701840175
You don't feel safe knowing that people have guns... but I'm the paranoid one?
Okay.
>>701836588
Won't it ruin the springs in those mags just having them sit around full of rounds?
>>701836915
>not having a background check at all even if you are clearly psychopathic, aggressive, or otherwise likely to try to shoot someone in a circumstance other than self defense...
no, the reason that shit is retarded (and you are as well) is because when you put "psychiatrists" in charge of who can and can't own a gun, you get massive corruption and inconsistent 'rulings'
putting the power of who can own a gun in the hands of pseudoscience SJWs sounds like a pretty retarded idea
just like how with divorce courts now in the US, you have to pay $10k for your kid to get 'psychologically evaluated' and the evaluator will ask you for a bribe to rule in your favor
>>701836588
>mfw I'm rather doing 300 km/h legally on the german autobahn
That's what I call freedom.
What exactly happens if you do that in America?
>>701838101
It's a magazine. Not a clip. Also, storing the mags loaded does not fuck up the spring tension. It's actually beneficial to the magazine in the long run. You gave it a good shot though.
>>701840235
Can't shoot an omelette if you're gonna worry about the eggs
>>701838101
spring tension stays the same. i've had magazines laying around for months completely loaded just as a test. did not affect in any way. regards, european
>>701840075
nah, I don't play video games. unless you count playing Go online, which I do about an hour a week at most
>>701840604
>>701836764
i know you're trolling but is it not better that we background check? or should we be anally probed for incendiary devices and be put on a 10 year waiting list in order to legally purchase a .22?
floridafag here btw. my guns ain't going nowherez
>>701840496
where did i say that? i live in texas man, where more than likely the person next to you has a gun on them. do i feel threatened? not at all, but my point is if i did, i would probably get a CCW. but that wouldnt be my first course of action, id look towards moving to a location where i didnt feel threatened. but this is also coming from someone who doesnt consider random people a threat, unless an actual random killer comes up to me, it's highly unlikely im gonna die like that; and if i do there is a more likely chance i die in another, more painful way, so ill take it, sometimes it's just your time
ill admit this all comes from the perspective of someone without children. If i had children id probably have a shotgun at home for self-defense.
>>701838101
hahah
do you put your car up on jack stands everynight?
>>701839118
>he bought the Chiappa.
Do you like it anon?
>>701840604
you get pit manouvered while going 250 and kill 7 retarded jew children and 1 cis-male father and two mothers when your car loses control and flies into the air through their chrysler voyager. afterwards, 15 american cops surround you pointing their AR's at your lifeless corpse and let the dog at it
>>701836588
My store in texas does it digitally and in real time. Not enough time to even browse more guns. Must have that payment method ready to go beeoootch
>>701840269
How would you amend it exactly? Restrict it to revolvers and break action shotguns? What happens 10 years from now when someone slowly shoots up a school with a Browning Citori? Will you tell us that we're being weird and all we really need to own are muzzleloaders? How long until "get a life bin that knife?".
Gun control is (and always has been) incremental. That's why firearm owners are refusing any more compromises.
>>701840089
some Europeans are aware of the entirely horrible and stupid situation you are in - we are truly sorry for you. that does not change the fact that you are in a terrible state, and that as on british politician put it "when in a hole, stop digging" is a good idea. By continuing to sell arms to your populace uncontrolledly you are digging. if a firearms ban had been brought in thirty years ago would your society be so fucked now? no. so why not do it today, and hope that in thirty years it is better than it will be if your currently insane policy is kept up.
as for the solution - total ban on all firearms for civilians except at gun clubs or designated hunting zones or pest control by farmers. . all firearms to be transported in locked containers in the trunk. anyone with a firearm in a city immediate arrest, or shot on sight by police. zero tolerance.
>>701840604
>only having a single road without speed limits
>not knowing about the various privatized racing centers in every state
but let's see how useful being in a country with one road you can drive fast on is when some Syrian refugee breaks into our home and bludgeons you to death for food. You'd think all these countries exposed to new forms of violence and poverty caused by the refugees would wise up about having a decent weapon.
>>701840647
people are not eggs, nor are they omlettes.
if you think that way you need help.
>>701840946
My favorite revolver. In .357 it feels like a 9mm. Dead accurate too.
>>701840850
my point was that most people who claim the government is going to come take their guns think that the background check ITSELF is the unconstitutional element of that transaction. I don't think any intelligent person operating in a functional society should agree with that. If anything they should be more pissed those lists exist, in which case freedom actually is being restricted without due process.
no one's grabbing your guns, the amount of manpower and resources necessary to go into such an operation is so impractical and impossible, assuming you had enough people willing to enforce it.
>>701836588
oy, you dont need a gun, who are you a murderer?
RFID will be enought to give you total safety.
Cant you see what afro americans and criminals do? They kill humans with guns, this is very sad thing.. guns kills
>>701841310
what are you talking about? have you ever been to germany? what one road?
>>701841435
Sheeeit. Mind sharing what you spent on that bad boy?
>>701841507
No I don't go places that lack any modern importance. The autobahn.
>>701838231
In Az, you can also head over to the bud store after the gun shows.
> +1 bonus points
>>701841655
I got it for just under $900.
>>701841747
>he thinks the autobahn is only one road
>>701836588
So when Hillary becomes president and starts banning guns, you waisted a shit ton of money.
Im gone laugh so hard when i see you in the detention center.
>>701841120
I'll admit I don't have an answer to this one yet. I completely accept that guns are a large part of American culture and no immediate measure will fix this problem (short of waving a magic wand and removing them all in one fell swoop, however as this is sudden it may {probably} create a man with the biggest stick scenario) what I approximate may be beneficial is fight fro the freedoms of speech and privacy, freedom of expression and separation of church and state all these things are noble pursuits.
As a member outside of america all i am trying to point out is that to many other cultures this seems like a very strange line to tow. I have admitted my faults I hope it has made you consider the stance that perhaps in the future an america could exist without dependence on guns, if you don't think so ill accept your position afterall i am not a member of that group.
>>701836588
>tfw arizona is more based than texas
>tfw you're too lazy and poor to get a carry permit
Trade places with me AZbro
>>701836588
>If you can't do this in your state, you're basically a European.
by european you mean a slave, slaves dont have right to own firearms
but dont worry sooner or later you also will became a slave, you government is slowly working on that idea
>>701836588
Europe can't do this, and they're getting shot up, stabbed and run-over weekly.
Plus their leaders are selling European women to refugees. And the Europeans are saying:
>lol america is dangerous you can die at any time
>>701836588
In the heat of passion it only took you another 10 mins to go home and kill your whole family...........Muh Freedoms!!!
Is this the same chicken shit America that evacuated an airport because of a guy in a Zorro suit ?
The same America that betrayed its King using firearms and then stole what was left of the continent using firearms, without a firearm an American is just a cowardly thief.
>>701841908
I think you may have missed the point. Being able to drive fast sure isn't all that helpful as the refugees rape your people and your government cucks to special interest groups. Enjoy driving fast in a 3rd world country.
>>701841790
Yea if you pay the ridiculous AZ fees for getting your physicians Rec. Arizona buds suck dick nothing beats Cali. Only thing Az is good for is guns and spending the weekend at the river. Otherwise it's a hot stinky shit hole
>>701838101
>clips
I don't care about having to do NICS.
I do care about having to jump through hoops and pay a fuck you tax for suppressors, SBR/SBS, and full-auto firearms.
Should be standard NICS check for any of those things
>>701841909
you can't ban guns in america. well, i guess you could, but you still have over 300 million guns here. a program to find, obtain, and then destroy 300 million of ANYTHING would be the largest scale operation every conducted, would make the march of dimes look like a fucking kindergarden bakesale. it's impossible.
this is all without even taking into account the fact that it's a polarizing issue where even if we had the manpower, they would all have to be not only anti-gun, but anticonstitution.
inb4 robots are used, until it's an actual threat, it's not an actual threat.
>>701842195
Good thing we have them then.
>>701842120
>like he couldn't do that anytime without a gun, by using crossbow, knife, poison or homemade bomb
>>701842350
See
>>701840344
Agree 110%
>>701839282
These people are gun sluts
>>701842226
The autobahn is actually decaying , it requires a allot of maintenance and they are cutting cost to pay for the emigrants.
Allot of my younger colleges lost their jobs because we only do repair tasks and we no longer do maintenance jobs.
>>701836588
Because every state has to be different i used to live in arizona, tucson, and it really is no hassle buying a gun but jesus here in north carolina, its like an hour process
>>701836588
OK fag here. Just sold one of my guns last week and used the money to buy two other guns from people. Not a single background d check. We greeted each other, looked guns over, handed cash, and parted ways after a hand shake.
Enjoy your govt cuckhold
>>701838101
This has been proven as incorrect
>>701842697
sadly we cant get the jews to fix/build a new one... not like last time.
>>701842350
Simple , make it a federal crime and people would turn them in left and right.
The others go to jail.
Like youi haven't heard of bullet buttons and other regulations yet.
>>701842350
when guns will be banned you could always sell them to niggers and sandniggers for throwing shit and killing eachother or give them to non-cuck european countries as gift for christmas
America is to Christian fundamentalism as ISIS is to Islamic fundamentalism.
The rest of the world needs to make more weapons and send them to both groups.
>>701836588
Damit to hell, those look like 30 round mags and by my count that's about 3300 rounds ready to Lock & Load....when does the war start?
>>701838226
He probably sells the guns to drug dealers earning 3 times more than originally purchased gun.
GET OUT GET OUT JUST GET OUT OF THIS THREAD
>>701842276
It's true that the prices are high and the quality is shit (bud), especially compared to California but that's not the point; the point is that it's LEGAL.
>>701839296
I love stupid people talking physical properties.........how do you "compress" a spring past it's elastic limit? Dumbass......if you stretched it out you could test the elastic limit
>>701841848
Nice man. Very nice. Btw I'm in Indiana, so we're neighbors 8^)
>>701842718
Arab countries like england, germany, sweden, belgium and france has no right to call anyone a cuck
>>701842802
News flash , jews have a iq of 80, they are genetically arab.
Another fun fact, blonds are the smartest.
>>701842959
Fun fact the me could conquer the west if they would unify and march north
>>701843214
>me speak good english
>>701842967
true what the fuck happened to the race war haven`t seen any black guy getting killed by cop in a while.
over here there is going to be a protest by the arzobishop against gay marriage ( the catholic church ) some priest apologize the bishop like im not apologizing im doing a march.
pretty awesome im gonna give eggs to some guys to throw at the counterprotestors
>>701842350
We need a gun holocaust. "Getz on z train please Mr. Fleischmann."
>>701839472
Who wouldn't /doen't want a rifle with the ability to erase a niggers head at 1.2 miles.
>>701842861
you're talking about repealing the 2nd amendment. congress has to do that. congress is made up of people representing more people who will vote them out if they go against the constitution.
it's not gonna happen man. they could try, but it would lead to overthrowing the government. even left leaning people, classical liberals dont want guns banned, only the insane super left tumblr crowd, which, like the "we dont need no background checks for our god given rights!", is thankfully a small (very) minority of voters.
The American psyche is of people who stole land from others using guns and have lived in fear of it being taken back ever since
>>701843550
Then why do some states have ridicules gun laws.
Look your schools are brainwashing your kids, its only matter of time.
>>701839472
Fucking adorable. Having my first daughter in late November. With any luck she'll be gun savvy by age 8.
The only reason i mention luck is on the offchance she wants nothing to do with them :(
>>701843175
you cause the coils to slip due to tension, pushing them further together than what you are considering "fully compressed" is. that would remove energy from the spring by changing its constant k value. talk more shit m8
>>701843550
You dont have to get rid of the 2e if you make it near impossible to practically own a gun.
>>701843247
Nobody almost knows this they are basically arab they even burned their geneology true story, so you can`t know who is a real person from Israel or just went there.
In fact ask one so call jew then you will be branded as anti semitism because it is true they just auto nominated themselves chosen people because they have tribes but there is no record anymore of who they descent from, probably the guy found out he wasn`t a real jew and fucked it up for all of them.
Fuck I was in a club giving the Hitler salute now that I remember was drunk as fuck.
>>701836588
>muh guns
get a life faggot
all other shit posts aside,
I live in the NYC area and would like to get a gun. Has anyone got any experience with that? I am pretty sure it would be a lot more difficult to get a licence or whatever in my state than in others.
>>701836588
Beautiful
>>701843885
>guns are free
>>701843753
Check this creepy shit out also Trump hasn`t given his tax returns.
>>701843852
Jews keep detailed records of their breeding and use selective breeding to improve themselves in being a kike.
>>701844007
Who gives a shit, i know he's rich. I don't want anything from him, i just want him to stop thw systematic raping of my country
>>701843550
the left shadow bosses have slowly disseminated their plans through even the most "rational" liberals.
>>701843753
example of a "ridiculous" gun law please.
>>701843829
true, but look at what happens when you regulate something to the point where it denies access. in Texas just recently they overturned an abortion case because the law stated all clinics needed to have a complete facility (something arbitrary for the operations being performed), reducing the number of operational clinics to like 20. It was overturned simply based that it restricted access to people who lived too far. similar shit will happen with guns; when it treads on common sense, or actual wording of the 2nd amendment (not interpretations), much much more people will speak out against it. hell even republicans didn't like the abortion issue in texas because as it turns out, republicans get abortions too.
>>701844007
ClinCunt sucks, but not as gud as Monica Lewinsky
>>701843640
Michael Moore get out reeeee
>>701844007
Who cares about his personal taxes.
His plans is what counts.
>>701844183
bullet button and pistol grip laws.
>>701844183
>example of a "ridiculous" gun law please.
here's one off the top of my head
>no magazine (clips to you retards) over 7 rounds in capacity
>>701844152
no, you just hear the angry minority. from both sides. most moderates don't bother giving their opinion on a subject such as this on social media, so because of that all you see is the extremes. but most of america is actually moderate, and there is no way that even a quarter of americans at any given point would be in favor of not only banning gun sales, but rounding up and collecting them. impossible.
>Live in Mississippi
>can go to the local pawn shop and just buy a gun as long as I have $150
>free-dumb
It's honestly a shame I'm not more into guns, I always preferred compound bows and fishing rather than hunting or planning my self-defense case.
>>701844436
>>701844319
neither of these take away your freedom to physically go out and purchase a firearm.
>>701844458
they would never 'ban sales', you're right
what they would do, and do now in some states, is make it such a pain in the ass to get what you want that people just give up
like buying a silencer. you have to pass an ATF background check, wait 8-12 months, pay a ~$250 tax
>>701844595
It turns you in to a criminal if you already have a gun.
>>701844595
what about states where you can't get a gun legally by purchase or gift until the chief of police grants you special permission
does that "take away your freedom to physically go out and purchase a firearm"?
>>701844670
silencers are not guns. if you want a gun, you can obtain one. im simply arguing about the 2nd amendment and guns. you're talking about specific accessories. and if you want my actual opinions, no one should be able to own a silencer, and such a device should be absolutely illegal. there are little to no uses for a silenced gun other than malicious. prove me wrong.
>>701839883
That's a group gun cabinet, probably at a police station...not OPs house. It's being shown for dramatic affect. He COULD get that many if he wanted to. You can't.
>>701844847
No.
>>701844847
what states are those...? thats a real thing? that's absolutely unconstitutional and i would fight that equally as hard.
>>701844847
Washington gun owner who voted in favor of the initiative to require background checks on private sales here. AMA.
>>701844972
Spoken by someone who has never fired a gun.
Guns are loud. Really loud. It's not like the movies where the bad guys fire off six magazines in a warehouse then whisper to each other behind cover.
Shoot one round without hearing protection and let me know how the ringing sounds three days later. Silencer = no need for hearing protection. Also, the extra weight at the end of the barrel helps to compensate for the recoil of the weapon.
Silencers make a day at the range more pleasant, without the intent of being malicious.
You have been proved wrong sir.
>>701836588
These baits are just annoying everyone. Just allow everyone buy anything they want, so that you eliminate everyone else's ass and we see no more of these shitty baits.
>>701836588
>be proud resident of United Sates
>felt like buying a new SUV
>went to the dealer, selected the vehicle i wanted
>handed over my DL, filled out a form
>walk around dealership for 5 minutes, looking at rims and tires
>guy comes back, returns my ID, sells me the vehicle
>In and out in 15 minutes, credit check complete
Why the fuck does it need to be more complicated than this? I could have put it in drive and driven through every pedestrian in the parking lot if i didn't have to take the stickers off the window.
This is what a bait looks like. If you can't do this in your state, you're basically European.
>>701836764
they don't background check you if you have a carry license.
>>701844972
i dont have to "prove" anything, you were too retarded to even understand what i wrote and its clear you know nothing about guns other than COD and movies.
i said if they want to restrict guns, they will do like what they did with silencers. then i told you the process
and fyi, a silencer isnt "silent". its still loud as fuck, almost to the point of needing hearing protection. thats the purpose, that you can fire a gun outside without needing 2 sets of earplugs, or indoors in your house for selfdefense without getting permanent hearing loss.
also there is no special technology in a silencer. you can make one for $30 of home depot parts and a butane torch in an hour. if someone was going to kill someone with a "silencer", i dont think they'd worry about breaking the law about making one now would they?
>>701845072
hawaii is the exact one i mentioned, which is pretty retarded. yeah you have to get consent from your chief of police if you want a gun by any method (gift, trade, sale)
>>701845296
nothing to AMA. if there was a simple, private and easy way, which isn't what anyone focuses on, most people would be all for it. instead idiots like you will just pretend to understand why someone doesn't want one
>>701844981
so... youre retarded?
Picking up my first gun tomorrow, 21 years old. S&W .357 magnum. Pumped
>>701845404
nope. i love shooting guns. if you're at a range using a silencer you're not getting an accurate determination of the gun's ballistics unless you plan on constantly firing it with a silencer anyways. ill admit your example is good, but come on, you have to see my point, for the problem the actual solution would be implementing hearing protection, not silencing the gun. plus the noise and recoil of a gun are like half the enjoyment for me.
either way the silencer is the thing being restricted, not the gun.
>>701845860
then make a silencer yourself. you're an idiot m8, how does regulating silencers infringe on your ability to purchase a firearm. it doesnt. it infringes on your right to purchase a silencer, which isnt protected in the constitution. im strictly speaking from a constitutional standpoint. silencers are just a voter issue, guns are not. that's the point.
>>701845404
I could understand if handguns were fun, but they're not, they're fucking boring, a few grams of gunpowder and a few grams of metal. When we were kids we could have gone shooting all the time as we lived in the country but we were having too much fun blowing shit up, hand guns was old man boring shit.
I think if you enjoy loud explosions and stuff then you are a well adjusted person, keeping a huge stash of handguns that you spend more time masturbating over than using is sociopathic. FFS get some lawn feed and model aircraft fuel and have some real fun. Did you skip Chemistry at school American retard?
>go to gun show or ad on Craigslist
>show up buy gun from owner
>no check just hand over money
>wham transaction over in minutes
>>701846315
>how does regulating silencers infringe on your ability to purchase a firearm.
wow. so you're actually retarded then?
dont worry about it bud, go back to your coloring book
>>701844972
Silencer is a misnomer created by the inventor who wanted to over exaggerate. They don't silence guns they just slightly suppress them. Guns are loud as fuck and shoot one once without ear protection and you will be hearing EEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. Suppressors greatly reduce it but it's still loud. People use suppressors for hunting because they don't want to throw on ear pro and miss a chance or deal with tinnitus.
>>701846513
not an argument.
>>701846534
that's fine. but banning them doesnt infringe upon your right to purchase, own, or operate a gun. it infrindges on your right to be comfortable while using the gun. which isnt a fucking right.
"but if people cant shoot guns without them being loud they will be dissuaded from going out and buying/owning a gun" THAT IS NOT TAKING AWAY THEIR RIGHTS, IT'S TAKING AWAY THEIR INTEREST
>>701846513
Sorry have to agree, not a valid argument.
>>701846585
Neither is this
>>701836588
#SPM
(Straw Purchases Matter)
If Jack wants to sell/trade Rod his gun, ain't no company/organization/gov't should be able to interfere with this.
>inb4 libtards and cucks triggered
>>701847018
mine was above. regulating silencers do not regulate guns. you saying that "if people cannot obtain x accessory they will be dissuaded from buying guns" is infringing on their rights to own a gun, it is infringing on their rights to be comfortable while operating that gun. and that right isnt guaranteed in the constitution. neither is the right to own a silencer. but the gun is. and that right hasnt been stifled in any way.
can i make it more clear somehow?
Owning guns is like a modern day disability.
>>701847080
If America is a great society how come you need a gun to protect yourself and family?
It's obviously not a great society there must be a problem with the constitution....not a problem with not enough guns...fuck to be an American you must have some gene switched off that blocks this neural pathway.
>>701836588
Real freedom is no background checks to get a pewpew.
Just saying.
>>701847080
This. Entirely this.
They don't try to regulate who can buy a car yet drunk drivers kill more people yearly than firearm homicides.
>>701848134
a car has practical necessary utility outside of causing biological devastation leading to death. a gun's sole purpose is to destroy
>>701847990
Aw he mad.
Don't let things that you don't understand, scare you.
That's a terrible way to live.
>>701848252
Really? How many people were shot and killed at the Olympics this year in the firearms competitions?
>>701848252
>>701848252
>a gun's sole purpose is to destroy
Precisely. Thank God we have weapons designed to destroy bad guys.
What a world it would be where bad guys have things built to destroy, while the population at large has to rely on a small subset of armed individuals for protection.
>>701847990
>bait.
noone has to own one. but think about all those niggers. they really want to rob your korean general store. so you get whole extended family on your roof with uzi.
https://youtu.be/tgCiC6qTtjs
>>701848381
No, but U.S. did snag 6 medals. Gold, I might add.
But it wasn't covered, because, y'know liberal media and all...
http://www.allenbwest.com/matt-palumbo/first-woman-medal-six-olympics-completely-ignored-media
>>701847596
I don't have any friends who carry a concealed weapon, I'm sorry any man in a modern tech era that thinks flinging around pieces of lead is a solution for protection, lacks intelligence, imagination and inner strength and will most likely be a bigoted bore. I met some guy about 6 months back and he throws his concealed weapon on the coffee table while we were having a beer, that is the last time I saw him, fuck you, you weak minded, lard ass cowards that need to carry firearms
>>701848381
yes and a truck was used for the largest terrorist attack in france, but should they ban trucks?
actually i did fuck up, i put "sole" purpose is to kill, i meant to say main purpose. but also those were air rifles, specifically made for target practice, not biological devastation, so that's kindof a moot point.
but my point still stands with the correction; a car's primary purpose and a gun's primary purpose are vastly different.
>>701848376
not an argument. stay scared americuck, id kill myself if i felt constantly in danger
>>701848655
Have fun defending your life with witty liberal cynicism. I hope you like nigger dick.
>>701847990
Yeah, it's called poverty dipshit. Last I checked it exists pretty much everywhere. In the United States, the poverty stricken tend to turn to crime. Crime in the United States is often met with lethal force or extreme prison sentences, so criminals are more likely to be severe in their violence. This is just on the domestic front, meanwhile we having a growingly corrupt government and local police are quickly turning violent against all citizens as they deal with violent crimes intensifying. We also keep arms as a deterrent for ambitious nations that could some day try to invade. While their are no contenders now, should our military fall, the citizens act as a last line guaranteeing a war of attrition.
>>701848704
>id kill myself if i felt constantly in danger
then kys, living in fear is not living at all.
>>701848655
Awww, someone is mad others don't carry the same convictions as themselves.
Isn't that cute...
>>701848664
The .22lr rifles and pistols were not air rifles, and the shotguns used for skeet and trap were not air rifles.
So, since a truck was misused to cause death that you would blame the person and not the truck, it stands to reason that a firearm misused to cause death should be treated the same way - you blame the user, and not the inanimate object.
No one ever blames the car/truck for drunk drivers. No one ever blames the knives or machetes for killing rampages. The people who blame guns for crimes and not the individual are fucking retarded.
>>701848909
wow you really lack reading comprehension. ill break it down for you.
>I'd kill myself
starts off ok
>if
oh here's that conditional statement where i relate this hypothetical situation to the very real situation you find yourself in
>i felt constantly in danger
this is the state you are in, obviously, if you feel you need to have a gun. you're scared, and you'd be terrified if you didnt have your metal pacifier.
>>701839687
well you could live in a civilised country that does not allow criminals (or anyone elese without a good excuse and with strict control) to own weapons used for killing people. (also, insurance. also, how could they steal and take away my investments? )
>>701849087
Such raw emotion
>>701848884
have fun being constantly scared of boogeyman, scared americuck. freedom to be scared shitless by people who arnt even threatening you rofl
>>701848655
Good thing you're disabled then.
>>701848252
The legal ability to own a firearm is important, as the 2nd ammendmant is there so that people can protect themselves from tyrannical government. If your 2nd ammendment rights are taken, you should worry.
and wouldn't you at least want the option to own one to protect yourself and your family. Just the option, not being forced to own a gun
>>701849087
i never disagreed with you, nor do i think guns should be banned. they shouldnt be. but expanding background checks isnt limiting freedom any more than it already is limited, which is my point.
>>701848664
OK smart ass, how come they don't let soldiers take their weapons home? Because the American army know they are more likely to use the weapon to commit a crime than help fend of an invasion, the army know that your average person is more likely to do bad with a gun.....just from having that gun in their possession....when humans get guns they use them for all problem solving always......the rest of the world sees this and looks at you absolute fuckwits denying what is fucking obvious
>>701839723
>Does what represent? Pursuing the hobby? As much time as you choose to give...
no, how much life hours does it cost to make the money to buy these useless toys?
you suggest 50 hours, at your high paid job. well thats nice - call it a full working week and a half of your life that you won't ever get back. still think it is a good investment? I hope you still think that when your kid shoots you accidentally with one of them... or you shoot a kid, or your spouse, or both, or yourself, or all three...
>>701849207
Lol who's scared?
Son, I've got a gun, I ain't scared of shit.
What's to be scared of when you're packin'?
>>701836971
Yeah they can be as cool and progressive as us
>>701849332
not disagreeing with any of that. but simply saying that having background checks on guns and equating that to background checks for cars is vastly different, based on their primary functions.
>>701840907
Kek
>>701836588
Same here in Michigan man, feels goooooooood
>>701836588
and not a one AK. faggot.
>>701840001
this is the sort of thing that only Americans would think. Your society is so sick and you have not realised it. Wouldn't it be better to live in a society where the psycho can't easily get a gun, because no one can easily get a gun?
>>701849424
everyone who owns a gun for protection is intrinsically scared. if not you wouldnt own a gun.
>>701838836
Sure you are
>>701849129
Not sure if funny or sad.
Lack of guns begets violence, violence begets fear, fear begets chaos.
Ergo, a society without guns will always be laden with fear and chaos.
Besides, it's not like knives are more lethal than firearms in mass killings or anything.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/01/world/asia/china-railway-attack/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osaka_school_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Kunming_attack
http://qz.com/741981/japan-is-normally-so-safe-that-todays-knife-attack-was-the-worst-mass-assault-since-wwii/
http://preparedgunowners.com/2016/01/07/obama-lied-again-more-people-mass-murdered-by-knife-attacks-in-china-than-with-guns-in-america/
But then again, those are facts. And you clearly want nothing to do with anything of the sort.
>>701849338
The background check system as it is now works. Private sales shouldn't be monitored, since it is already a felony for a felon to buy a gun from a private seller anyway. The onus is not on the seller, otherwise to make society safe, you'd need to include DUI checks to sell a car.
They aren't worried about safety, they are either statists authoritarians who dislike the idea of an armed civilian public or they have a gun phobia.
>>701840019
no, that would be murder, not freedom. her freedom (to fuck whoever she wants to - you do not own her, or her vagina, and have no right to kill her just for fucking around - if you don't likt it leave her - but murdering her is not promoting freedom.
misogyny is usually the sign of an insecure sexuality. you gay really?
I'm American but the fetish for freedom in this country is retarded and goes too far. Humanity is shit and can't handle it without chimping out. That's why big government is necessary and helpful. We need it to curb our nature. If we were decent creatures we could have a libertarian or anarchist society but we're not so we can't. Accept reality and deal with it, retards. It's part of being an adult.
>>701849808
>the fetish for freedom in this country is retarded and goes too far
Then hop on a plane, you will not be missed.
You still have the freedom to move elsewhere.
>>701838757
That shit happens in your country every other day faggot
I would have guns too if id live in the usa
>>701849087 lol guns are designed to end human lives and trucks aren't
>>701840125
>Stop being so dismissive about peoples past times and what they want to spend their money on. Is it in any way putting you in the poor house?
no just putting thrity thousand people in the morgue every year. putting their families in the poor house. putting a strain on the economy for everyone, plus the cost of gunshot wounds for another hundred thousand or so.
your hobby costs lives.
>>701849424
Anyone else who is also packing.
Now do you see your problem?
>>701849727
no one who has a gun phobia would agree with the current system, it's incredibly easy to get a gun. and i mean a real phobia, like panic attacks when seeing a gun.
the system is fine now i agree, but question for you, do you agree with the expansion of background checks to check into no-fly and terrorist watchlists?
I'm originally from a small euro shithole called Romania. We were even allowed to have guns, I agree if you cannot purchase a gun after a background check and I'd then you live in a pussified country. Most likely the Syrian migrant loving libtard countries.
>>701838101
Image search newfriend. That's not OP's locker.
>>701840496
well you are the one with the oversized gun collection who thinks he needs it for self defense... so yeah, you are the one living in fear.
>spend shitloads of money purchasing a gun
>own machine intended to end lives
>AW YEA I'M A BIG AMERICAN MAN HO HO HO
>4chan that shit
so who are you going to kill, OP?
>>701849592
I think it would be foolish to equate fear with wanted to be prepared. When I see the weather forecast says it's supposed to rain, and I bring an umbrella, it's not out of fear, I just don't want to get wet. Most gun owners carry for a similar reason. America has violent criminals, so be prepared, bring a violent criminal deterrent. Until they invent a better way to stop someone than killing them a firearm is going to be your best bet. It's not fear, just don't feel like being a target.
>>701849410
They are toys, why do people buy über expensive cars? They are also toys. And firearms that are kept in a safe and used responsibly won't kill anyone. Again, they are toys like supercars are toys, expensive and dangerous if used incorrectly
>>701849649
if a lack of guns begets violence, why is america so violent? why dont all these good gun guys stop these bad guys if they are outnumbering them so heavily?
but by your logic, america should technically be the safest place in the world.
>>701849881
Not an argument.
>>701850069
good response i appreciate it.
>>701850040
>well you are the one with the oversized gun collection who thinks he needs it for self defense.
You're foolish in assuming they're all for self-defense.
The weapon you're carrying is for self-defense, the weapon in the wall-safe is for self-defense, the weapon in the toilet tank is for self-defense, the weapon in the sugar is for self-defense, the weapon in the hidden storage compartment behind the lamp in the bedroom is self-defense.
The weapons in the safe, those are for fun.
>>701850203
Not a comment.
>>701850101
Liberal gun safe zones prevent good guys from carrying at the risk of a serious felony.
>>701850101
Having guns for peace is like fucking for virginity
>>701836588
As a resident of California I envy you.
>>701850101
>>701850101
>why is america so violent?
Why is france plagued with mass killings and gun violence?
Why did germany just deal with a mass firearm-related killing?
How do people so easily obtain and use firearms for terror in these places?
They're gun-free for goodness sake.
>>701841790
There is no "bud" store in Arizona lol wtf
>>701850101
no words.
>>701850303
Peace? We have it for defense.
>>701849444
faaark flawless victory - dem trips of truth
>>701836588
He wasn't doing a background check, he was registering you to the list. Now they know you have one, so if shit ever goes down, they will seek you out and kill you first. You will never see it coming btw.
Come in Italy. If someone enter in your hause to steal, and you shoot him, he's right and also get paid for it. You can only show him where you have the money and pray that he wont rape your wife/sons. Thanks Pope!
>>701841310
this whole Syrian refugees thing is just silly. Typical american ignorance. A few incidents happen in Europe and you think it is all like down town Chicago. a thousand incidents happen in Chicago and you guys are like "meh, who cares, I want to play with mah guns so those lives don't matter"
we have a fortieth of the level of gunviolence, and do not live in fear - you have the highest level in the civilised world - except of course you are not in the civilised world.
>>701839687
If someone with a gun steals all my money they will be doing it from a bank so it will be covered by the banks insurance. Same with all my valuables at my house will be coverd by my home insurance.
All these dirty Harry fans think they are going to just happen to have their loaded gun in the right spot when they get robbed. Most likely you won't see it coming/You wont have your gun and it will be Just another thing that gets stolen while you're tied to the radiator.
>>701836588
They dont load it for you the first time? I thought this was America!
>>701841747
lack any modern importance, lol. it took the whole world to stop Gemany the last time..
>>701850815
>>701850815
>you shoot him, he's right and also get paid for it. You can only show him where you have the money and pray that he wont rape your wife/sons.
FUCK.
This is Hilary's America.
>>701850369
Everyone in Switzerland is armed the problem with America is the people, a country of immigrants, well originally some treasonous British guys who cucked the county to niggers but now mostly a mish mash of the trash that couldn't get by elsewhere in the world.
>>701843797
Still not elastic limit
>>701850369
>Why did germany just deal with a mass firearm-related killing?
I'm german and we don't. i'd rather think the perceived lack of guns in this country build the opposition to private gun ownership.
>spoiler: there are at least 17 million illegal firearms in this country. that's close to 1 for every german. in the seventies the gunlaws got stricter requiering registration of even bolt action guns. and people just never registered theirs.
the gunlaws in germany are bullshit. somewhat comparable to new york's
>>701851083
>who cucked the county to niggers
Which county so I can avoid it?
>>701851194
>every 4 germans
>>701842097
Ah typical American bullshit. Less crime in all Europe than in one of your major cities - come to rural France and you can have guns to hunt with and no gun violence and very little crime at all.
>>701838265
Retard
>>701850851
Denial is the most predictable of all human emotions.
Chicago also has some of the STRICTEST firearm laws in the nation. I know correlation isn't causation but there's some strong evidence to support crime rises in area with firearms restrictions. Also see
>>701848890
>>701851194
>>Why did germany just deal with a mass firearm-related killing?
>I'm german and we don't
Hmm, but this article is from CNN, not the onion...
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/22/europe/germany-munich-shooting/
>>701851034
>brags about something that took place 71 years ago
>modern
Kek nice
>>701842226
how many refugees have committed how many rapes? on how many occasions? now compare to say, mass shootings in your country. if you think the few rapes in Europe should be stopped then shouldnt the mass shootings be stopped too?
>>701838231
Balisongs arent illegal in Texas you stupid fucking nigger. The only knives illegal in Texas are gravity knive
>>701850263
It was literally and unironically a comment.
>>701851282
>come to rural France and you can have guns to hunt with and no gun violence and very little crime at all.
Guns to hunt
Or
Guns to curb violence and crime
>Pick one
>>701838265
>not having all of your mags loaded and ready to go
>>701851477
Mass shootings happen at gun free zones, your argument is invalid.
>>701842479
true, but actually, far less likely. sorry but truth of the matter is that guns make it easy - and so more likely to happen. which is why you have the highest rates of suicide, murder suicide and domestic murder
>>701838101
You triggered so many gun fags.
>>701836588
>I are retarded and live in da usa where owning more guns than the Chilean military be normal for folks with mental-illnesses. I eat things other people have thrown away or run over with their pickup trucks. I have no life. I rub my gun and whisper male names. I dream of being famous... on TV.... if only for a day. I like climbing towers and looking at people through a gunsight. I be liking that a lot. Ufos be real... like chemtrails. ..
I see, OP.
Tell me more.
>>701851282
OK.
but how did that help the people at charlie hebdo, or the people in nice, or the people in the Roma camp in france, or the people killed by a box truck, etc?
Do murders increase ?
>>701851656
>>701851656
>>not having all of your mags loaded and ready to go
>going to use a loaded and ready mag only to find the spring has been weakened to the point where it can not push the next cartridge with sufficient force
>>701851656
>but then throwing them in a huge pile so it takes you 20mins to find the right one
>>701838757
This is why murica is a third world country.
>>701836764
Are you a fucking retarded piece of shit?
