do you believe in trans-stuff?
The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
do you believe in trans-stuff?
We may be catering to a mental ilness, and performing procedures on people who should be cured with therapy and medicine. Still wanna fuck one tho!
>>700525760
No.
I'm so happy I don't have twitter and don't follow facebook feed except news.
>>700525760
a guy is definitely gay for fucking a man in women's clothing, and the girl i'm dating is a child so i am in fact a pedophile. argument sucks.
I believe there are 3 forms of sexual preference.
Three genders.
and multiple sexual systems.
Mankind was never meant to be with one person all their lives, thats purely a social construct.
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>>700526765
how can it be a social construct if people weren't meant to do it? why did people feel the need to be with one person the rest of their lives in the first place?
>>700526192
/thread
>>700526730
What the heck is this?
>>700526730
I don't understand this at all.
>>700526977
2 words, Conflict Resolution.
you give a man multiple women he will have sex with them all.
you have a tribe or enclosed community having multiple partners is a point of conflict.
I'm on the fence about transgender- uh, ism. If there's proof of it, I'll buy it, but it seems like just anyone can be trans.
>>700526977
>why did people feel the need to be with one person the rest of their lives in the first place?
religious cucks threw monogamy into the mix so all the cool big dickers weren't smashing all the poon to oblivion, or at least so if they were they would spend their efterlife in hell burning for eternity.
Get this fucking trash off of /b/ mods.
>>700525760
i believe they make my dick hard. other than that they are just mentally ill men. would not touch one irl
>>700526817
As a MOSFET transistor I'm offended I'm not included.
>>700527314
Discussing a relevant topic in society.
>REMOVE IT!
Clairecab is the only trans person I will call a she. Other traps are a mental illness and should be sent to an asylum.
If dressing up like a girl makes you feel pretty, that's fine, but legitimately thinking you're a female -- while you have XY chromosomes -- is completely autistic.
>>700527659
>REMOVE IT!
Please do.
>>700526414
Is trying to guilt straight people into gay sex a thing now. That seems rapey, or at least entitlement like that leads to rape. Go find yourself a nice lesbian into butch dykes and call it a day before you wind up in jail.
>>700527659
Relevant to who? Like .001% of the population that have no right to complain.
People not wanting to fuck you and blatantly disregard scientific terms is hardly oppression.
>>700525760
Body dysmorphia. It's a mental illness outlined in DMS V.
>>700525760
psychfag here: well neurological scans have proven that they're telling the truth about how they feel.
Whether it's 'real' or a some sort of dysmorphic hallucination or something it's sort of irrelevant. They really do feel the way that they feel.
So yeah, it's totally a thing, and if there's a surgery that can make them feel better then I don't really see a downside.
Especially since other treatments are ineffective.
>>700526161
It is mental illness, the people do need therapy.
People who go through this are often desperate, depressed, lonely, isolated, anxious. Lacking a sense of masculinity or identity, feel hopeless.
Im a passing tranny, the above is an accurate description of where i was at before starting hormones and transitioning. The vast majority of trans are similar.
However im going back to being a guy and reclaiming my life. Currently am a guy who looks like an attractive girl and with an estrogenised body and no testosterone.
fucked up situation to be in... lol
>>700530078
>implying that surgery is effective
>>700530078
I agree. Why is it anybodies business for people to apply surgery to themselves to make them more comfortable in their skin. I think when people get plastic surgery its vain and dumb. But I don't take some staunch moral stance against it. And really I see no fucking difference. people are so booty bothered when others go against traditionalist norms.
>>700530078
You're a moron and a liar.
I know what that test is.
A part of the brain is affected by levels of testosterone.
So obviously someone who is more feminine in nature will have a depleted part of the brain that's directly affected by testosterone.
Chances are males that have lower testosterone during their prime testosterone age will inherently be more feminine and probably have more transsexual tendencies.
KYS lying on the internet.
>>700528928
lol I don't think its guilting you into having sex with trans people. If youre not attracted to a type of person youre just not attracted. I think the point is its wrong to guilt others who don't mind dating trans people.
>>700531370
why are so many doctors against doing surgeries to paralyze or make deaf/blind people who want that?
its even illegal in some places
>>700529443
lol whats blatantly being disregarded?
>>700526817
Is this a gender chart for ants?
>>700531924
I don't really know about the surgeries that disable you. I'm not really talking about those anyway. I'm talking about the ones that physically alter or augment your body. Boob jobs are okay on a woman but somehow immoral on a man. Doesn't make alot of sense to me.
>>700526467
lol
>>700532101
whats the difference though, its a surgical procedure someone wants that doesnt have anything to do with anyone else right?
but the similarity between that and trannies is its a surgical permanent solution to a mental problem. thats why people think trannies are so retarded
>>700526765
Kurt Vonnegut wrote that there was actually 30 or so genders necessary for humans to reproduce. 28 of them are only perceptible in the 4th dimension though lol
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>>700531370
Trans people's rate of sucide among other mental issues (such as extreme narcissism and OCD) barely changes after hrt or srs
On top of that, it's big pharma and doctors who make shit loads of money providing 'treatment' that is shown to be completely ineffective that takes tens of thousands from the mentally insane
If you don't see a moral problem with that then you're either ignorant or morally devoid
And if you're morally devoid then why do you care about their rights in the first place?
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>>700525760
I believe in mental illnesses like gender dysphoria.
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>>700525760
I consider it a mental illness.
>>700532645
>whats the difference though, its a surgical procedure someone wants that doesnt have anything to do with anyone else right?
I mean their are surgeries that are common place that are basically being willfully disabled already. Men can get a Vasectomy if they so want and nobody would bat an eye. Moreover thats sort of extremem. I don't think there are alot of people clamoring to blind or paralyzed so I don't see how its relevant either way.
Its okay to think its retarded just mind your own business about it
>>700526414
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>>700526730
I hate the guy who writes these pieces of shit comics so much.
I hope something happens to him so he stops sprain this garbage.
>>700527004
It's been popping up a lot this week...Pretty much just a b8 thread.
>mfw i read this type of bs
>ABANDON THREAD
>>700525760
so you want to use biology to disprove biology? cant have ur cake and eat it too if ur got a dick u aint no chick
>GTFO of this thread
>>700526481
>what do you mean by violence?
The response they left out
>whatever the fuck I want but 99% people who don't want to deal with me because I live on a high horse so tall it shits on the moon
Yeah, but none of that "agender" or "non-binary" bollocks
There are two genders as far as I'm concerned. Identify as whichever the fuck you want but declaring that you're something else just makes you an attention whoring faggot
>>700532799
>If you don't see a moral problem with that then you're either ignorant or morally devoid
What would be the point if I did see a moral argument about it? Jehovah Witness' think blood transfusions are moraly wrong but they aren't preventing me from getting one. And if they are they aren't being taken seriously in any form.
I dated someone who was trans. It's like dating a chick but not being able to get pussy. Same insanity and bullshit otherwise. Not worth it.
>>700525760
its a mixed bag. some guys are gay for it. some guys arent.
to say you are inherently gay even if it looks like a perfect woman is pretty narrow minded. one thing to consider is that most guys arent dating perfect women. are you gay for liking a girl with small boobs? or just an ugly girl? or a really obese woman who looks a lo tlike other obese guys you've met? or a pretty girl who tomboyish features?
so if a trans person has their surgery but has some masculine features are you gay simply because of the biological sex?
or does it really matter? i hate when gay guys are like 'LOL IM TOTALLY STRAIGHT CUZ I ONLY DATE FEMININE GUYS' and shit like that, but if you are dating someone who had sex reassignment surgery, its no big deal.
id even say if you fuck a trans and hate the dick, ur stil lstraight, we've all fucked girls that have some undesirable part of them, but the rest was okay.
but if you are chasing girls with dicks, yeah you're kinda gay, or some new sexuality or whatever
>>700525760
no.
>>700533565
I think androgyny is a gender sorta but yeah I agree. I don't think its fair to have like 30 genders and expect people to cater to each one politically
>>700525760
Idiot statement since the trans "woman" is still a man but the woman is no longer a child.
Why can't liberals into analogies?
That being said i would fuck the shit out of a passable one.
>>700533320
Stops spewing this garbage*
>>700525760
The problem i can't have children with him(her) as for the relationship it could be as great as with a any other human being. But there is not progress and if you get older and look back you want to have a prof of existence (child)
>>700526410
me too but i whould be out after one "hate speach"
>>700533713
I started watching shemale porn because I saw it once and thought "4 tits is better than 2, plus no ugly ass guy. Where is the downside?"
>>700533984
Analogies are like math - they hard. Liberals would rather someone else do the hard stuff and then pay them for sitting around.
>>700533462
Agree
>>700533572
No, but they do prevent their own members
Watching a five year old die because their parents refused a blood-transfusion isn't a situation where you can just go "well, I respect their decision"
It's fucking sickening and society has a responsibility to do something about it
If someone wants to let themselves die, well fuck it, you can't save everyone
>>700525760
does that "girl" have a dick, or a mutilated hole instead?
If you fuck something with a dick, you are bi or gay.
Deal with it.
>>700525760
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>>700526567
This guy is fucking insane.
>>700532799
Transfaggots often lose family/friends due to transitioning. Hard to find work, get roasted all the time for looking the way they do.
Probably difficult to just mix into normal society unless they pass extremely well.
The isolation is probably as much to do with the suicide rates than anything else.
>>700534316
Why are you posting phone numbers
>>700533984
Trans women refers to men that identify as women and perceive themselves as such. Your designation of them still being a man is fine but its unfair to them. Its like pronouncing someones name wrong and tell them that they are the one thats wrong.
>>700525760
Damn right I'm a paedophile.
And you're still a man, but with tits.
>>700533951
I accept androgyny is a thing (I think androgynous people are cute af), but I don't think it's as significant a characteristic as male or female
Like being trans - it's not a gender in itself, it's a descriptor of gender, a sort of subcategory
>>700534577
True
>>700534141
You could not have children latter with him and if he became old (40+) and got not the hormons but plastic surgery too see like a "her" you will see it after 40+ and after that you need $$
>>700531370
It's my business because they want the surgery to be covered by tax dollars.
>>700526765
It makes me so sad that marriage is getting looked at more and more as a negative thing, and open relationships are getting looked at more positively. They're disgusting.
Why fall in love with someone who's fucking several guys at the same time
>Pro-tip: If you're a man in an open relationship you are most likely a cuckold, I've seen open relationships and women always have the power, and not in a sexy way.
>>700530078
Or we can put them on hormone therapy..... Works too
>>700531370
Samesies anon. I don't give a fuck either way. If you want to be a fucking horse, I don't fucking care. People are way too much absorbed in what others do with their bodies/lives.
>>700525760
I am fine with transgender people and what not but this photo is probably the most retarded thing I read all week
>>700534740
I actually just meant the downside to the porn.
>>700534275
lol so denying someone a medical procedure is wrong now? Which is it dummy?
>>700525760
Mental problems.
Plain and simple.
>>700526414
Wait am I reading this wrong or is the brown kid actually touching she/it on purpose? As if he's attracted to she/it? If that's the case why is this written in a negative way?
>>700534478
Again with the retarded analogies. It's more like calling otherkin humans because it's what they are.
> it's unfair to them
I don't give a shit what's unfair or fair to them. The world is unfair to everybody.
I still use their preferred pronouns just out of politeness but I know that they are male.
>>700534994
Turning down medical treatment for yourself and denying a minor medical treatment because you don't believe in it is one case of suicide by negligence and one case of child abuse.
>>700534994
It is when the surgery is mutilation.
Trans women will never really be accepted because it is frankly unacceptable.
>>700534430
They also lose all their money to a bunch of unethical medical leeches
But it's progressive so no worries
>>700534577
Yeah. I don't mind tbh. Any political discussion of equality yes bring in the 30 unique genders. But its not possible to segment and put laws in place for dragonkin specifically
>>700534853
You see 2 dicks when one only have a job some people see it as a nauseating thing. And you will be mistaken for a gay if you make it's public.
>>700525760
The girl I am dating used to be a child.
A trans "woman" is still a guy.
>>700525760
... Dammit, that's actually the only tumblr-post ive seen make that much sense.
>>700535066
Do ypu really care that much though? We let people get surgery to look like cats yes it's fucking retarded but really who actually cares? As long as people aren't harming other people they should be free to pursue whatever makes them happy or more comfortably or even just if they want to.
>>700525760
lol the key word is USED to be. Did the trans faggot get rid of his Y chromosome? I didn't think so.
>>700534765
put them on antipsychotics
or research should be funded to find a cure that does not require hormone therapy
>does it affect me?
>it does not
>therefore why should i care
>>700525760
>liking dick
you just might be gay
>it's a post-op trannie
you're just sad excuse of a man at that point. Couldn't even get the thing pregnant
>>700535543
There. This thread has some fucking common sense. Bunch of 14 year olds getting mad at their own gender confusion.
>>700535208
>Again with the retarded analogies. It's more like calling otherkin humans because it's what they are.
lol thats a reactionary stance. But whats wrong with calling an other kin a camel if that's what they want to be called? I've met alot of furries/otherkin and they are about as benign as weebs that demand you call them "Takashi-Kun" or some shit.
>I don't give a shit what's unfair or fair to them. The world is unfair to everybody.
I still use their preferred pronouns just out of politeness but I know that they are male.
Thats fine. Nobodies telling you how to think.
>>700534994
hrt and srs don't save lives
worse, there are studies suggesting a large amount of people who undergo srs regret it but are silenced because it doesn't fit the progressive narrative
just google 'srs regret' to see my point
>>700526765
Here, you dropped this.
>>700535420
The presence of mental illness is blatant regardless of whether we care or not. Being around mentally ill people makes sane people uncomfortable.
>>700525760
Man, I don't even know anymore. Let's take an MTF. It's got a dick. It's definitely male. But it feels, thinks and acts like a woman, for whatever reason. Maybe this shit is some kind of mental illness. But there doesn't seem to be a way to treat it other than to just throw hormone pills and surgery at it. It's abnormal but it's a fundamental part of their psyche that can't be changed without putting them through horrifying torture. It'd be like trying to cure someone's autism or retardation. It ain't a choice they made, it isn't their fault. They'd fuckin' love to be normal, but the closest they get to a cure is going through with the transition and trying to live normal lives as a whatever. You shouldn't feel obliged to be attracted to them and nobody should think you're obliged. Just let it all be and let everyone do what they will. You do you and they do them.
>>700535386
But I only see the one, because it's a shemale fucking a woman. I never said anything about trannies banging trannies. If you think it's actually less gay to have the man look like a man, whatever. I see it as lesbian strapon porn but with cum. It's still technically heterosexual porn because a tranny can't change their chromosomes, but more tits
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>>700535420
I don't but you asked a question and I answered.
>>700535667
> answering a question is getting mad
stop projecting m80
>>700535337
That bait looks delicious
>>700535822
Then don't be around them. You have free will do you not? Besides if being around mentally ill people bothers you that much you must live a quite sheltered life. All I'm saying is people get their panties in a bunch over things that are fucking pointless to waste anger on.
>>700535473
Nope but that will be our next project to clone the womb +vagina and implant it on someone who have the "needs" there are already projects with skin and cartilage so it's only a matter of time...
>>700535932
I asked no questions other than rhetorical ones. I am not OP. But still even the fact you care enough to post shows it bothers you.
>>700536003
I'm not mad just concerned people are wasting their short lives
>>700526765
>Mankind was never meant to be with one person all their lives
Yeah, pairing off never happens elsewhere in nature.
Retard.
>>700535229
lol I don't have any objection to suicide and once again the child negligence was an active motion of belief. Just as denying trans people surgery or hormones. Its pointless and has no place in the discussion
>>700535252
So are piercings, Tattoos and extreme body mods. But those are all A-Ok in american society. Also I accept trans women so that point is moot already.
>>700535769
It really doesn't matter if they regret it. Most people regret tattoos they get too but nobody in infringing on their rights to get one.
>>700526765
>Mankind was never meant to be with one person all their lives, thats purely a social construct.
which resulted in countless healthy, stable, growing families for many generations...but hey we can throw all that out because muh sexual preference
>>700525760
I believe firmly in the no harm principle. If some guy wants to be a lady with a schmeckie it isn't hurting anyone. If some dude wants to bang said beschmeckied lady, that's his choice too. However, said beschmeckied lady has no right to tell me I can't be weirded out be their sexual niggardry.
>>700525760
I don't believe in persecuting people for doing whatever they want, but as a personal rules to live my life by as a man,
1. If it has a dick, do not stick.
2. If it used to have a dick, do not stick.
Mutilate your body in the ultimate act of controlling your own destiny if you want. That's your right. But if that's your right, then it can't be wrong to think it's disgusting.
>>700525760
Child to adult is a natural transformation. Nobody had to go under the knife to look like an adult.
Is this bitch saying someone's dating a child with implants?
>>700536423
Or to hide the fact until the pants come off.
>>700525760
You cant change what you're born as, you can only trickpeople otherwise, take hormones and thought police people into respecting your special fart of sunshine gender identity.
>>700535708
> But whats wrong with calling an other kin a camel if that's what they want to be called?
It's objectively wrong since they are not camels. It's like saying 2 + 2 is 5. It's not unless you change the definition of the symbol 5 to 4 which is just going to cause mass confusion.
>>700526765
yeah you have right a man shoud have min 5 wives
3 gender ? Man Woman child ?
>>700525760
Men are men and women are women.
If you're a pretty boy and you wanna dress up like a girl for sex, whatever, but let's not pretend it makes you a girl.
>>700536710
lol math is not language. The meanings of words constantly changes
>>700526410
You must be real cool.
>>700525760
i had a tranny gf, im straight, i probably would do it again unless it was a super passable trap. pussy is always better
>>700536350
We can throw it out now because we don't need to populate as much as we did before, and it's perfectly possible to grow up normal and healthy in most any family dynamic/community so long as there is support
>>700525760
I think transexuality is a real thing but many transexuals these days are either just seeking attention or are retarded like the one in your picture.
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>>700536306
>damage control
>>700525760
yes
>>700536972
Yup. Got me anon. I'll see myself out.
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>>700535420
He's not arguing whether or not they should be free to pursue whatever fucked up notion of happiness they have. He's just stating that transwhatevers are mentally ill which is objectively true.
A few months ago o came to the conclusion that i didnt care what genitles soemone had if i found them attractive then i wanted to fuck them
>>700526817
Hin-D reporting in. Dont belittle us attack helicopters
>>700537322
the dubs can't be wrong
>>700536830
So your solution is to change the meaning of camel to human or to feeling of being a humped desert animal? Which one of those words should be changed too?
How the fuck will ideas be spread if words are being changed willy-nilly?
>>700536761
Its like fucking furries. Its not enough for them to dress up and fuck people who share their ideas. They want the world to recognize their special fursona and wear that shit out in public and be recognized as a vulpine/sparrow-kine.
Its the exact same shit. People who go from a fetish to delusion.
>>700535300
Well it's free in the UK.
>>700536346
Try to get a real job with "extreme body mods" and tell me it is accepted.
You are deluding yourself.
>>700533320
its almost like his comics are satire
>>700537634
I think thats wrong too. People should be judged on their own merit divorced from their appearance or beliefs. Bringing up another problem isn't an argument its just more telling of how intolerant we are as a whole.
>>700537554
Someone is paying for it.
Probably someone less crazy and with a job.
>>700537951
No, that's retarded. You have to interact with others to do your job and if you hold retarded opinions or look like you got hit by shrapnel and decided to leave it, you're going to impede productivity. Businesses should absolutely select based on appearance and beliefs.
>>700537951
Wanna know what happens when you hire a guy who looks like a lizard as PR for your company? Other companies stop taking you seriously.
You can continue to operate on "they're all just bigots for not accepting me", but the reality is that those people are freaks and the majority of people recognize them as such.
>>700537951
Well, nobody has time to get to know everybody on a deep, personal level. So we judge based on surface things.
The person has a huge tattoo on their neck. This is a person who does not think through their decisions. Denied.
>>700525760
Horrible comparison. A more apt comparison would be to use this example of the man who is obviously a full grown adult but claims to be a child. Is the wife who was married to and had a multiple children with this man now a pedophile? Are we going to revoke his driving license because he is underage? Is this man now allowed to have little boyfriend/girlfriend relationships with "other" 6 year old children? Does this man need to go to school because it is the law for children to school? Of course not because our society isn't that retarded and degenerate enough... yet I guess.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCVRrybYWNE
>>700525760
Fucking lost
>>700537493
Lol nooooo. My solution isn't to change any words meanings. Just being cool with other people isn't an invitation to anarchy, relax my dude. Also this is a bit of a strawman. (I know I brought it up too lol)
>>700526513
At least the message in this one isn't totally retarded.
>>700526765
Actually, from a scientific standpoint humans are meant to mate for life. Our infants suck at life and need someone to take care of them for the first 10 or so years of their life. People havent evolved to be with multiple people because taking care of multiple children in multiple different places equates to a much lower survival rate for the children compared to people who have multiple children between just the two of them in the same place. Im not saying you cant be a whore, i dont have any problem with it. Im saying anyone who claims humans arent meant to mate for life is retarded or simply does not understand natural selection.
>>700536346
>It really doesn't matter if they regret it. Most people regret tattoos they get too but nobody in infringing on their rights to get one.
Tattoos can be removed and altered and don't cost tens of thousands
Tattoos also don't alter your internal organs/functions
>>700536423
That would be fine except trans people are clearly insane and doctors and pharmacists are exploiting them for a fuckton of money
Would you be okay to allow someone to set up stall in an insane asylum selling tinfoil hats?
>>700537554
Which makes it even worse. My tax pounds are funding some dickhead doctor and allowing some suicidal person to live out their delusion without becoming any less suicidal
>>700537951
That's reality
People judge each other
If it's something you can't control, regulations are in place
If it's something that can easily be controlled, no one gives a shit about your feelings
>>700526730
They clearly call the kid queer, and refer to it as "he"
So how the hell does it end up being all like I'm a dude and u didnt even know
The fuck?
I know they're mentally handicapped and shit, but... the fuck??
>>700538531
b-but muh progressive future
>>700537770
Except he's a tranny SJW cockbite.
If they were satire, I'd just ignore them, he actually means this shit.
>>700532799
I'd bet my testicles that the high suicide rate among trannies has more to do with lack of social acceptacne than feeling like the surgery was a mistake.
being trans is fine being a demisexual genderqueer foxkin isnt
>>700538207
>look like you got hit by shrapnel
Thats fucked up. Denying ugly people career opportunities based off their appearance is uncool.
>you're going to impede productivity
Maybe for a little bit but people will get used to you if your friendly and a hardworker.
>>700538250
Again uncool to ugly people. Unless you mean a person that got surgery to look like a lizard. I don't know if other companies would stop taking you seriously we've never hired a lizard kin lol.
>>700538354
Denied where and why? A tattoo on the neck is a big commitment of time, money and physical distress. To me that person is one or commitment and will.
>>700525760
The problem with that logic is that a child becomes an adult naturally and a man becomes a "woman" artificially. Plus that logic is irrelevant because the trans was a child to, so he's shooting himself
>>700539204
We are talking abour body modifications, not ugly people.
In the real world people with sleeve tattoos and gauges, trannys, and people with forked tongues are looked down on and not hired for important jobs since they clearly suffer from mental illness, impulse control, or both.
>>700538630
Tattoos can be removed and altered and don't cost tens of thousands
Tattoos also don't alter your internal organs/functions
This wasn't always the case and people didn't stop anyone from getting them back then either. A pointless observation
>That's reality
People judge each other
If it's something you can't control, regulations are in place
If it's something that can easily be controlled, no one gives a shit about your feelings
The reality is perceptions change over time too. This whole argument to not accept trans people is reactionary at best and people will stop giving a fuck very soon because it really doesn't matter
>>700525760
I don't believe a guy with fake tits and a mutilated dick is woman, but i'll call her "she" out of politeness.
Trans/homos are mentally abnormal/damaged, but not on a dangerous way so there's no need to be a dick or have them sent to a mental facility.
>>700530078
Yeah, and schizophrenics tell the truth too.
>>700539204
I mean people with a fuckton of piercings, but if it comes down to it, yeah. I wouldn't hire an ugly person to serve food or greet customers.
>>700530078
Psychfag talking about neuro stuff... interesting...
Hate to tell you this, but those tests were inconclusive, demonstrating as much and more difference between brains within gender as between brains between gender.
Anyhow, whether a person 'feels' like they have different genitals doesn't make it so. And associating the trappings of social stuff like clothing styles and typical gender roles with gender to make people feel 'more comfortable' simply reinforces the association, legitimizing it.
>>700539489
>clearly suffer from mental illness, impulse control, or both
all of these judgements are in the eye of the beholder. And they stem from traditionalist values that are proving more and more to be pointless.
Im transgender
>>700532101
The problem with this is more with the risk associated with any of these surgeries, particularly srs. I am all for people doing what they want with their own bodies, but selling it as a cure to a mental illness when it simply doesn't work is unethical and immoral.
>>700539884
You mean traditionalist values that society is breaking down in the absence of?
Something tells me I need to rev up dem ovens.
>>700536856
>perfectly possible
>neither parent would be fully committed to their relationship
>timmy would see mommy spend a lot of time at night with men asides from daddy
>all you need is "support"
Oh fuck off retard, nothing about open relationships is healthy, they're really just meant to be had until you find someone to commit to
>>700539903
MTF/FTM?
Do you have a femenine penis?
>>700526192
My negro
>>700540045
MTF no, dont have one
>>700538630
As a believer in captialism, yes, by all means sell tinfoil hats to crazy people...God what a shit analogy. What give you the right to tell someone what they can and can't do to their own bodies? If nobody is harmed by gender reassignment, then what's the problem. I'll never fuck one, neither will you clearly, so why do you care?
>>700539742
lol at least you're honest. And I think alot of these judgement are based on that sort of perception.
Which is uncool and muy wrong
>>700540112
GTFO
>>700540112
>no feminine penis
Get the fuck out right now you disgusting monster
>>700540030
>You mean traditionalist values that society is breaking down in the absence of?
People are more productive and produce more capital then ever. Society isn't breaking down its just changing. Just as it always has and always will. And there have been doom criers since the beginning of time as well. But meh, this is another arguement altogether. I don't really want to get into it.
>>700525760
someone cutting their dick off doesn't affect me in the slightest, so i don't really have a problem with it.
>>700526513
Never thought I'd agree with one of these fucking things
>>700539884
Ahh yea, that evil traditionalist society that you suffer through daily.
Keep kicking the dirt, because that traditionalist society is the only reason trannies can spend all their energy pretending to be a little girl.
>>700540440
> because that traditionalist society is the only reason trannies can spend all their energy pretending to be a little girl.
lol this doesn't even make sense.
>>700539019
Yeah, that's probably why gay people and other marginalised groups all had similar suicide rates at the height of their persecution too... OH WAIT
>>700539884
Biologically, no one should be trans, they should be the gender they are born with, changing gender goes against nature
>>700540418
It was a trap, you're an SJW now. Go donate to Sarkeesian.
>>700526567
WTF is this insane bullshit?
I'm trans.
You're all transphobic cunts.
Gerald looks like a dolphin, but is he a dolphin?
>>700540606
>changing gender goes against nature
so is contemporary medicine and manufacturing. what is your point here?
>>700540581
Bold claim, you gonna cite it?
>>700540771
I'm not afraid of you, i just hold the position that the only real females are genetic females.
How is that a phobia?
>>700540606
humanity goes against nature. That's what technology is for.
>>700539596
>because it really doesn't matter
It really, really does
If we allow this, we accept a flawed version of capitalism where we have no duty to protect the interests of those who an't protect themselves so that some rich assholes can get richer
We accept the idea that someone else can impose limitations on your vocabulary and thoughts in case it offends them. The word nigger has always been legal because of freedom of speech and we accept that is the way it must be
So instead black people reclaim the word
But now, we have groups unironically campaigning to make it illegal to call people by the wrong pronoun. And it's already fucking happened in new york, so no, that's not a conspiracy theory
>>700540534
Someone's gotta keep the world moving forward while all the space wasters spend their times doing dabs and lopping limbs off on government checks.
>>700540989
Different anon here.
I disagree, anything humans do is part of nature.
>>700540440
We'd be twice as far in progress if you shitbirds didn't spent all of your energy caring about who fucks who
>>700525760
It makes no sense
>>700540122
>let's peel schizophrenics' skin off
>afterall, it's what they wanted and they should be allowed to have whatever they want done to them
>and the people peeling their skin get paid tens of thousands so everyone's happy!
dipshit
>>700541093
yeah so then people changing their gender is part of it too.
>>700541126
Name a transgender founder of a company worth more than 10 million dollars.
Name a transgender person who currently leads a country.
I'll wait.
>>700538630
>allowing some suicidal person to live out their delusion without becoming any less suicidal
That is a very disrespect way to address our Brave and Proud military service-apes!
>>700525760
>>700526765
Let me put these claims to rest
>>700541329
But they can't change it, anon, they can mutilate themselves and fuck with their body chem. But they are still whatever gender they were born as.
>>700526817
Wow, the land of make-believe!
>>700541529
apply that logic to literally any other scientific advancement. Apply it to plastic surgery.
>But they can't change it, anon, they can mutilate themselves and fuck with their body chem. But they still have whatever face they were born with.
>>700541430
M. Obama
>>700541046
>very vague and very spooky rant
>We accept the idea that someone else can impose limitations on your vocabulary and thoughts in case it offends them.
lol oh brother. Were we talking about identity flagging? No we weren't.
> The word nigger has always been legal because of freedom of speech and we accept that is the way it must be
So instead black people reclaim the word
Okay? Once again this is changing the subject
>But now, we have groups unironically campaigning to make it illegal to call people by the wrong pronoun. And it's already fucking happened in new york
Lol this has no bearing on the discussion we were having in the first place but that is a gross exaggeration on the guideline that was passed in New york. You aren't going to get charged for accidentally misgendering someone you have to be actively malicious with it and have witness's of the misconduct. You can't call your employees 'jew kikes' either bro,
>>700541240
Oh look, a straw man. Can you cite studies by reputable scientists that say that Transgender people are clinically insane and incapable of deciding things for themselves? If you can't, what gives you the right to tell a mentally well (according to existing medical sciemce) person what they can or can't do? Since we can demonstrate schizophrenics aren't capable of rational thought, it should go without saying that society won't let surgeons flay them.
>>700540852
Nope, we use medicine to stay alive and keep our race going and reproduce, without medicine diseases would have wiped us out, there were some that easily could have
People change gender to feel better about themselves because of a chemical imbalance, and actually stops them from reproducing, which goes against the purpose of evolution
If you're going to argue on the internet at least don't be a fucking moron, look at things objectively
>>700541736
Not the same, the face is just a part of the body. Gender is decided by genes. Genes are everywhere in your body. Chopping of your cock or taking some pills won't change that.
>>700540891
>30% of Gay youth attempt suicide
> Trans men are the most impacted, with 46 percent reporting an attempt in their lifetime. Trans women are close behind at 42 percent, and female-assigned cross-dressers report rates of 44 percent.
wikipedia is your friend
>>700530078
Lmao I've been talking to doctors that have worked with Trans patients a lot longer than you and it is plain and simple delusion quite similar to schizophrenic and dymensia patients
>>700541962
>not the same
>gender is decided by genes
>the face isn't
your logic in a nutshell
>>700539558
>tfw in the year 2067 will probably happen
Used to be?
>>700525760
If a child got surgery to look like an adult because they wanted to be one and I fucked them would that be a problem?
>>700541869
>we can demonstrat
>rational thought
>this reality
>rational
Haha
You've still got some blue pill stuck in you, one day you'll see though
>>700541736
>implying changing your physical appearance changes your gender
Yep because a woman who becomes a "man" has a prostate
Because a man who becomes a "woman" will produce milk and will be more likely to get breast cancer
It's not that fucking simple you idiot, you can't just say "well apply this logic here" if it doesn't apply
>>700542277
excellent retort
>>700541902
lol by this logic any thing a human being does is natural by the virtue that it happens or perpetuates society. Its a completely pointless observation
>without medicine diseases would have wiped us out.
Thats called nature dummy. Diseases wipe shit out all the time in nature.
>People change gender to feel better about themselves because of a chemical imbalance, and actually stops them from reproducing, which goes against the purpose of evolution
Lol the purpose of evolution? If anything people purposefully pulling themselves out of the running with their transgender chemical imbalance brain should excite you then. After all its natural for creatures that don't want to reproduce to not do so.
>If you're going to argue on the internet at least don't be a fucking moron, look at things objectively
ouch my feelings
>>700541850
>You can't call your employees 'jew kikes' either bro,
I could call someone on the street this and not get a $25,000 fine
You're ignoring the point
Allowing transgenderism leads to the transgender movement which leads to butthurt special snowflakes who are mad people don't find them attractive and mis-label them
And that's on top of the numerous ethical reasons I mentioned above
>>700541869
I can cite studies showing they're narcissistic. I can cite studies showing they're suicidal. And I can mention a known mental illness that explains all their symptoms
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apotemnophilia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_dysmorphic_disorder
Trannies display the symptoms of both of these known disorders. People like you prevent treatment by pretending there's nothing wrong with them and only treating their symptoms
>>700525760
The logic of this tranny escapes me.
>>700542205
Original anon from the going against nature part here
Is this anon's logic wrong?
No, it's not. You are what you are born and you can pretend whatever you want, but biologically you will always be a man or a woman from birth
"hurrr-durr if i point out what hes thinking itll make me right"
>>700542205
Look, retard, If i cut your nose i change your face. If i cut your dick i haven't changed your genes.
>>700526817
>>700526444
These comics.
>>700542378
if someone has boobs, slim waist, wider hips, no adam's apple, long hair, and wears dresses and makeup, i'm sure not going to check whether they have a prostate.
>>700530521
There is a vid on yt that shows a penis to vagina surgery. The resulting vagina looks nothing like a real one.
>>700542656
>if i cut your dick i haven't changed your genes
>if i cut your face i have
your logic in a nutshell.
>>700542630
>Allowing transgenderism leads to the transgender movement which leads to butthurt special snowflakes who are mad people don't find them attractive and mis-label them
And that's on top of the numerous ethical reasons I mentioned above
I can imagine make believe worst case scenarios too. Not allowing transgenders to move forward with their desires can lead to them forcing themselves to participate in breeding with healthy brained CIS gendered people. This will pass down their faulty misgender gene and exponentially increase the amount of transgendered people in the following generations. Which will usher in a bloody transgender revolution
>>700542869
Until you try to have a kid with them or they get prostate cancer
>>700542722
>>700535859
>533320 >>700538744
>File: 1462144821937.png (952 KB, 1125x958)
dafuq is dis ?
>>700526192
this
>>700543055
well i'm not into trans women, so i wouldn't try to have a kid with one.
QED, it doesn't affect me in the slightest if someone changes their gender. And unless you're into trans people it doesn't affect you either.
>>700526607
Wow, that's some serious stupid in there.
Sex is a biological fact, you have male or female genitals. Being born intersex is a physical deformity that can be fixed.
Gender is a set of cultural ideas about how people should act based on their sex. Some of these probably have some biological component, just like we see in other species. Some of those norms are also backed up by laws, some are not. But at least on this the artists wasn't entirely stupid.
Now being trans is a disagreement between the internal neurological model of our bodies and the body itself. But it isn't really about gender, its about sex.
If trans-sexual didn't have the negative baggage associated with it we would use it to refer to the dysphoria between mind and body.
>>700542722
How is letting them make charts for themselves supporting them? That's freedom of speech at work.
Literally the most useless and vile type of human our race can produce. Cant perform the basics functions of a man after they have their "surgery" and not the basic functions of a woman either.
They dont even have the excuse of infertility. Every part of their body is the sex they where born as. Even their brains.
They just happen to either be born with or develop a mental illness. A mental deficiency. A mental abnormality.
They're literally so few in numbers (not to mention of much they tend to kill themselves anyhow) that we shouldnt give a shit if they cry and whimper about how we dont "accept" them.
Let them kill themselves or get aids and die.
>>700543140
>him
im so fucking triggered right now
>>700543125
you must be trolling, because there is no way anyone can be retarded enough to live to think that being a normal man or woman is a mental illness.
>>700543268
The point is that they're still a man, not that I'd try to have a kid with one
>>700543460
there is no way anyone can be retarded enough to live to think that being a normal anything is actually normal
>>700525760
No because I used to be a child too.
>>700542630
I didn't know Wikipedia was a peer reviewed journal, when did it stop being a collection of bloviating britanica rejects? But can you state that the medical community agrees with you? I don't think you can.
>>700543621
you are on 4chan /b
>>700543460
The construct of gender is social as much as it is biological - and it was social long before it was biological. Social definitions are created for majorities, so it makes sense that the minorities weren't included. In fact, they might never have been, but then the internet. With changes in communication, there are changes in social definitions. The sooner you accept that, the sooner your suffering will end.
>>700543621
>because there is no way anyone can be retarded enough to live to think that being a normal man or woman is a mental illness*.
* except transgendered people.
>>700543507
I guess the overall question is what exactly that means in practical terms. I don't really care what they're like on the inside. i.e. if every outward feature of them looks to all the world like a woman and they sound and act like a woman I'm going to call them "she". It just wouldn't make sense to me the other way around.
>>700525760
"she" was born male... omg what's the world coming to?
>>700525760
I thought liberals were supposed to be the educated ones? why do they completely deny science?
>>700543754
correct
Remember that terms like normal are relative to the short period of time that this species history has been recorded, a small blip in the grand scheme
What's normal today is archaic nonsense tomorrow, and the days of designated breeding roles is approaching that tipping point.
>>700526730
Great job, author of this garbage. You left out the well-deserved savage beating that would follow in the next panel.
>>700525760
She makes a point tho, we're pedophiles
>>700543621
Evolution created male and female to perpetuate the species. Everything else is mental illness.
>>700543028
Well considering the scenario I'm talking about is currently taking place in an easily perceivable way, I'll say that's a false equivalency and you're full of shit because you refuse to accept reality around you
>>700543976
Liberals don't deny Science, conservatives do. Conservatives point towards biology and say it defines us. Liberals point to our amazing elastic brains and social constructs and say they ALSO define us. At the same time, conservatives will deny that social sciences are sciences at all - which isn't remotely true.
But hey, what ever lies help you sleep at night, right?
>>700543814
>the sooner your suffering will end.
what suffering? just because i'm not some faggot that wants to be a disney princess and i expect the rest of the world to kowtow to my warped, diseased sense of self image doesn't mean there's something wrong with me.
isn't it all about being comfortable who we are?
>>700526414
I don't get it, is making a move on someone or whatever that guy did oppressive? And how is it related in any way to the other one being trans?
>>700543020
Not even that anon but you're very retarded
>>700538744
the point is that the tranny is so delusional that they think the kids are secretly in love with it and only calling it a 'he' as a way of seduction, not because it looks like a guy
how are you too dense to get that?
>>700526567
That's b8 right ?
>>700526161
Needs to be cured with a bullet
>>700543843
But then what about the ones where all logic directs you towards them being one gender, then they get mad for "assuming" the gender. Gender fluid people are the worst
>>700544346
phenotype > genotype
>>700544217
biology defines you. it's your genetics. it's what makes you who you are. you deny science because it isn't convenient just like work and taking care of family. you're a god damned disgrace to liberty and freedom. you deserve a cage and elect people who'd lock you in one if their business partners said they needed to to close a deal.
>>700544380
Posted on 4chan as bait, made by some SJW on tumblr retard as an actual thing
>>700525760
No. Fucking a trannie makes you gay. Argument is stupid. Born a man always a man, regardless of how much surgery and hormone therapy you get.
>>700543814
Please shut up. You are part of a minority populated with confused trannies most of which commit suicide.
>>700544254
I wish that's what it was all about. But when defining ourselves, we get trapped in social definitions. We label. It happens all the time.
Those labels are really just guesses and loose fits, but their validity is the result of common adoption. That's what's happening with genders.
So, it puts things in perspective. It makes it easier to recognize that even our classic gender system as simply a set of labels. It's bullshit because people aren't binary. They're spectrums - even if some biology isn't.
>>700543714
>sources from numerous journals on mental health don't count because they're collected on wikipedia and trigger this retard
It's clear that even if I proved you wrong 100% objectively and clearly you wouldn't accept it, so I'm not even gonna bother anymore
>>700543843
>>700544429
It really doesn't matter what strangers call you, it is just polite to refer to your gender.
The "gender" that is apparent when they look at you. That's our culture. You may not like it, but if it REALLY bothers you, it's your hang up, not theirs.
Don't try to change a society around the fact that some days you want to be called "sir" and some days you want to be called "ma'am" and can't dress accordingly.
>>700544488
Deny science? I accept biology for what it is. Do you accept social sciences? I'm guessing not.
>>700525760
i believe in live and let live. :)
>>700544429
well there I agree with you. It is kind of annoying when they change frequently and get mad for you not keeping track of it. I've only ever met one gender-fluid person in my life and (s)he was actually really understanding about it. Said that they understood it was kind of confusing, but they were also okay with me asking what to call them.
>>700544726
social science is abstract.biology is life.
male = PENOR, female = VAHJ. you = REFUCKINGTARDED.
The transgender movement was literally a bunch of insecure fairies who couldn't hack being gay
>>700544206
False equivalence? Its not. it has as much reason as your perceived threat.
> is currently taking place in an easily perceivable way
Lol Its really not. You cited one grossly exaggerated story wherein transpeople are protected from hate crimes just as several other minorities and non minorities are. The trannies aren't building an army to overthrow society. You're a reactionary.
>>700526765
What do you mean by "meant" exactly? That implies there is some kind of plan and our current existence is off-plan. In reality we are "meant" to be whatever we decide as a society.
