true
>>698541024
Vote republican if you want your rights to remain intact
Vote Democrate if you want your rights to be rewritten
>>698541024
The same is true for liberals, but instead of money it's rights.
You're fucked either way in a two party system.
America is truly the land of the slave, home of the freak.
>>698541024
Economic determinism, kill yourself
>>698541201
>>698541174
Found the poor autistic high school drop outs
>>698541024
>"hurr look at my tiresome "billybob" blue collar redneck strawman"
I don't know what's funnier, the fact that you one-note losers can't come up with anything better, or the sheer classist irony of said strawman, coupled with your complete lack of awareness.
>>698541024
Same can be said for democrats, libraterians, really any party that has a politician in it....since their all crooked. It really makes me laugh when people say "im voting for trump because Clinton is a crook." Their all crooks
>>698541408
I have a college education and i am very social m8
>>698541174
Yeah I remember that time when Obama gave the NSA and FBI the right to tap your phone calls and detain you without probable cause.
Oh wait that was Bush.
>>698541024
Yeah because this is a much better idea
>>698541408
Found the hack with no material or original thoughts of his own
>>698541486
And obama? He renewed it
Also is privacy a right?
>>698541562
This is evidence enough that voting republican or democrat is irresponsible.
>>698541408
Found that thread you started on Reddit with your profile pic
>>698541529
That one is far less accurate.
>>698541024
True
>>698541428
This is why Libtards always lose. They constantly dupe themselves into believing that we are all that guy.
Also yeah, this has "limo liberal" shitstains plastered all over it.
>>698541529
>complains about high crime rights in black communities
>complains about low IQs and poverty rates in blacks
>doesn't see the connection between Jim Crow laws and the things I just stated
You realize that if we helped build black communities it would lower gun crime and boost the economy
>>698541024
The republican party has always been a mix between billionaires and the hills have eyes
>>698541677
Cans someone explain to me why all "feminine gender" individuals on the Left always look like Private Pyle in drag?
>>698541872
>implying we havent been
What more should be done anon?
>>698541024
False, nigger bitch. Hillary has 3x the funding that Trump does because she has the wall street elite behind her as well as international special interests to keep globalism going strong.
>>698541905
Meanwhile the Dem party has always been a mix of people that fail to accomplish anything significant, and people who fail to accomplish anything significant, yet they whine cry and blame everyone else but themselves.
>>698541872
Hey! No one is allowed to say logical things on b! Its only for idiocy and trap pictures!
>>698541946
Don't know
Not a politician I'm just stating the obvious
>>698542125
Case in point, see: This loser
>>698541872
>>698541024
>>698542188
>logical
What do you purpose we do for the black community that isnt/hasnt been done?
>>698542276
How is it obvious if you cant state what needs to be done?
If you vote third party, you're wasting your vote.
>>698541428
>classist irony
Get a load of this faggot.
>>698541024
Both republicans and democrats are shit.
>>698541529
That "burden" that you are attempting to portray in your little cartoon is only meant for the millionaires and billionaires the upper 1% of the upper 1%. Trust me if you're on /b/ you ain't going to be negatively affected.
>>698542303
>"Republicans are either all fat rednecks from the deep South, or my father."
Said every white-skinned armchair "progressive" ever.
>>698541872
Literally gave them priority on schools, jobs, help on getting free/low rent homes.
If they can't do well with all that THEY are the problem. Black communities need to reorganize their shit and understand they have to put a good deal of work into society in order to get anything out of it.
Many white communities need to do the same, it's not even a racial issue. It's just the problem you get when you hand dumb people too much free shit.
>>698542278
Yeah because when 60% of black children under 6 live below the poverty line there's nothing to complain about
>implying the right doesn't blame, Muslims, Obama and democrats for all the nations problems
>>698541024
True.
>>698542589
>has no concept of the citizenry being taxed to death so that Clurrence and Shaneequa can get their food stamps
Fuck off, infant
>>698542305
Tax funded college, healthcare for everyone, and wide use of headstart programs like SMART for the most at risk children would be a good place to start in creating a generation of people who might actually have something approaching equal opportunities.
>>698542510
Fact
>>698542589
fact
>>698542859
This
Also decriminalization of non violent drug offenses
>>698542859
This. Now that manufacturing jobs are all but completely shipped off to China, the ones who benefited most should give back for creating a country where a college degree is almost required to make ends meet.
>>698542670
>,he typed self-righteously to the anon on /b/ while sitting in his cushy house situated in a 100% white suburban neighborhood.
>>698542859
>tax funded college
There. Pell grant, certain state grants, and tons of scholarship programs for poor black americans.
>healthcare
There. Most states have programs for the poor that cover their healthcare.
>preschool
Plenty of preschools offer assistance to poor families.
>>698543101
Nice projection anon
Not all of us are guilty of being white and born middle class
>implying I didn't grow up in Daytona Beach one of the most crime ridden cities in the nation
>>698542976
I would agree with the decriminalization under a certain weight
>>698541024
Liberal cuckold safe-spacer gender guessing SJW detected.
>>698542859
"Tax funded college"
Now you're talking! I can't wait for my refund for the college I already paid for. Oh, you didn't mean those of us who paid for our own college?
>>698543181
Now keep that up for about 10-15 years and we might see a hint of change because you can't expect to undo 500 years of slavery and Jim Crow laws over night
>>698543353
>500 years of slavery
Of the blacks?
>keep it up for 10-15 years
This has been going on since the 90s anon.
>>698542857
But this actually doesn't happen. You want the super wealthy to keep skating by untaxed, I laugh as you stare at the sky with your mouth hanging open under the barren faucet of trickle down bullshit.
>>698541762
this
>>698543333
you're lucky you've quad because the post himself gave me cancer
>>698542125
yeah... who needs healthcare
>>698543181
Throws a few pennies at the poor:
"There, that will pay for everything you need!"
>>698543430
I'm not seeing sources so I don't know what to make of this
>>698541024
typical liberal logic, thinking money/power is everything. if you do what you love and do not care about other's opinion of you then ultimately republican is the choice
>>698543562
>throws a few pennies
As opposed to what, a few more pennies like you want to do? The problem cant be solved by throwing momey at it. We have tried it doesnt work.
>>698543345
we want the people on top of the wealth pyramid to start paying their fair share. let them take the shit jobs to china, fuck them. more opportunity for people to become self employed or bolster family and small businesses in reaction.
>>698542859
You could make all these things present to the black community (many of them already are in some shape or form) but it won't fix a thing. This is a lead your horse to water and can't force it to drink issue. As long as the black community keeps falling for the media/politician spun narrative that their lives are shit because of racism that requires outside sources to make their lives better they will continue to have shit communities.
>>698543345
"I had to get raped in the ass by my uncle, everyone else should have to too!"
>>698543333
Quads for the fucking truth.
>>698543581
Healthcare
https://www.medicareresources.org/basic-medicare-information/brief-history-of-medicare/
Higher ed
http://www.collegescholarships.org/grants/african-american.htm
Preschool
https://www.grantwatch.com/cat/26/preschool-grants.html
>>698541024
made more money working for republicans than I ever did bitching about them.
>>698543702
>>698543871
So I mean if we already did all we can why are people still complaining?
If there's nothing to be done?
>>698543467
The wealthy aren't skating by. Stop believing the lies.
US Tax Revenue - $3.1 TRILLION
US Spending - $3.6 TRILLION
>>698542670
Maybe 60% of black children's parents should get jobs instead of doing and selling drugs and walking around talking about "muh dick" and if they can't they should be sterilized and save the children. Meanwhile a child living in poverty should be taken at birth and adopted out to a loving family that can't have kids due to medical reasons. The kids aren't to blame. White people aren't to blame. It's their shitty parents.
>>698541201
No its multiple parties, just none of them have a foot hold
>>698543562
It's not that our liberal friends are ignorant; it's that they know so much that just isn't true.
Government is not the solution, it's the problem.
>>698543997
>60%
75% of Black kids are born to a Single Mom.
That statistic is fucking real.
The new government welfare plantation has DESTROYED black society.
>>698543949
Because they arent attacking the cause just the symptoms. If you have an infection, you dont just keep scraping away the dead flesh, you attack the infection.
The problem is one we caused by incentivising single mothers in the minority community. Single parent homes on average fail. We need to fix this. We do not put enough police in crime/poverty ridden areas, this cause a vaccum where businesses leave because of the risk of staying. This pulls money out of the area, and nobody can work.
>>698544066
We're trying to fix the gov't, while you work to dismantle it.
>>698543997
Sorry, meant to quote this faggot:
>>698542670
>60%
>>698543953
Mitt Romney paid a lower tax rate than you
>>698543997
This is stupid.
>>698544066
So is this.
I hope people as stupid as you don't vote.
>>698544274
this
>>698542859
>Tax funded college
By this do you mean essentially the whole "free college" thing. I never got this because if you make college more easily accessible you'd just minimize the worth of the degrees would you not? Also blacks have so many fucking scholarship and grant opportunities is not even funny. Throwing more money at someone who doesn't know how are doesn't want to use it for their benefit won't help them.
>>698543527
You can't say you helped people get it when you forced them and all the ones that just simply don't want it to have it by law under penalty of fine.
>>698541429
Any power can create corruption.......the founding fathers felt we are of better virtue and able to strive for self governance. That's why the constitution rocks
Same for democrats. You got a shitty system, that's all.
things are lousy everywhere out in non guvermint/press/university land,flyover territory for you and your guvermint pals, detroit,a wreck,LA a fuckin brownocrat made mess,new york,a cesspool,the demcorat party,steer manure
>>698544228
The government solution to government problems is always... MORE GOVERNMENT.
Take for instance the 9/11 commission.
The 9/11 commission found that the reason the terrorist attacks got through was because there was too much bureaucracy between security and law enforcement agencies.
Government's solution to the problem of government bureaucrat?
Create another bureaucracy, and they did, and they called it the DHS.
Keep 'fixing' it, lefties. You've almost destroyed a nation.
>>698541771
Always lose......hahaha.....8 years of Obama and looks like 4 years at least of Hillary
>>698544430
No, we want to fix/change it, not expand it. At least that's how myself and most progressives I know see it.
>>698544274
Actually, Obama paid a lower tax than me. Romney was the same.
I checked back in 2012.
>>698544296
What's so stupid about not breeding if you can't afford to provide for a child?
>>698544413
found the illiterate / foreigner whose opinion doesn't matter.
>>698544516
I don't see how you're not getting the fundamental problem of government fixing itself.
Government has but one desire; to grow and get bigger and gain more control.
>>698544516
Would you agree with this?
As a rule, the more a governing body legislates, the less freedom there is?
>>698541872
No shit......white people stepped on the necks of niggers from the discovery of America til the mid 60s and they expect them to be civil and adapted in just 50 years. DEAR White people, myself included, rich whites 400 years ago made niggers this way,.....don't blame the niggers this takes time
>>698542589
I don't know man. There's a Wendy's chef that starts threads and he makes a whole 8.75 an hour.
>>698544808
Actually, as black intellectuals have pointed out for a long time, beginning with Frederick Douglass, white people and the government need to leave blacks the fuck alone.
>>698544808
>400 years ago
>>698541486
godtier b8
>democrats
>republicans
Nice meme. You fags dont realize that they work for the same people.
>>698544687
All progressives agree we need to get money out of politics by any amount, as much as possible/feasible. That doesn't sound like "fixing itself" since that goes against its tendency to acquire and grow.
>>698544807
We're trying to legislate things like repealing citizens united and stopping TPP. Most things are about stopping toxic laws and throwing out the bullshit. Takes action, doesn't infringe on rights.
>>698541664
>this
>>698543058
>manufacturing jobs are all but completely shipped off to China
Guess Idaho is China now? Where I live alone there is a sugar fsctory, con agra foods, Clif, and supposedly the largest chobani factory. There's also talks of kraft and oscar meyer setting up shop here.
>>698542589
Ron Reagan sure fucked us
>>698545011
You're not following me - you're spouting talking points.
I'm speaking much more ecumenically about government as a whole and its purpose and range of power.
Might I recommend reading some John Locke (2 treatises on civil government) and Frédéric Bastiat.
>>698544897
We can't leave them alone in America. If they wanna be left alone they need to leave. You can't live here and not follow our laws and be a complete drain on society and expect to be just "left alone"
>>698541677
>>698542589
>>698545218
This is wtf level of stupid.
The two worst things to ever to black society since slavery were:
The War on Poverty
The War on Drugs
It's created a cycle of generational poverty that, if you need me to keep explaining it from here, you aren't going to get anyway.
Government needs to LEAVE THEM ALONE.
>>698544327
This guy gets it
>>698542857
Hur...".niggers getting free shit."..the very fact you use the term "food stamps"...shows how deep in the right end of the pool you are since they haven't existed for almost 20+years
>>698544430
George W Bush founded the DHS.
>>698544897
This included local governments........look up Jim Crow laws, it prolonged the agony for blacks after emancipation.....this is why the feds stepped in
>>698545484
I think we're actually on the same page. We need to leave them alone as in we need to stop helping them and let them help themselves?
>>698545484
I completely agree anon. And this means the pros and cons.
>>698545558
EBT
SNAP
Whatever you call it, it's still welfare/food stamps, and most normal people are ashamed to use them.
But EBT cards have taken out the shame.
It's funny when I go buy groceries and the little black kid behind me says, "Mommy! White people use money to buy groceries?!?!?"
That's right, and we use it to buy yours, too.
Hell, even a cashier had that reaction once. I was using cash to buy food instead of liquor or drugs? WTF???
>>698545558
Not him but food stamps = ebt/snap welfare programs. Surely you're not arguing wording to try and disprove a point? I didn't even read what you replied to and I know you're an ass
I just pay attention to policies and vote accordingly, I personally don't buy the dichotomy of bigger gov vs smaller gov : dem vs repub
They both want to dominate. I am against excessive regulation from the fed basically until it comes to corporate pollution and waste management.
However I see things like $15 min wage and that makes sense because of inflation and the fact, among other things, so it's a mixed bag as I see it.
>>698545568
...
You're being obtuse on purpose, right?
>>698545804
Virtuous whites
>>698545934
I can see an increased min wage, but 15 is too high
>>698545934
Bigger v smaller government is not a false dichotomy like R v D. You'll notice Neo-Cons and Neo-Libs agree on 90% of shit, anyway. They both LOVE big government when it's for their bullshit.
What's the first thing that happens in a labor market when you raise minimum wage?
You price low skilled, low experienced, low educated workers out of the market.
If you want more people with BAs waiting tables, by all means, raise the minimum wage.
If you want Kiosks instead of check out girls and fast food workers, by all means, raise the minimum wage.
>>698544809
Wendys...chef...lol....is that what they call the guy the pulls shirty burger patties off a timed flat top press grill now?...
>>698546362
Come on
>>698546205
I don't mean it's false in itself. I agree it's false in that the D and R establishment want bigger gov.
>>698545804
Welfare was developed to assist families. Particularly families with one parent. No one doles out EBT to poor single men or just people without money. Its a bandaid to the social ill of children requiring a tremendous amount of money and resources to raise -- a job not everyone is up for, no one is educated for, and one conservatives actively exacerbate by making sex-ed and birth control such taboos, and creating the pro-life movement -- as if people like killing babies.
ITT payed libtards trying too hard to make /b/ just as retarded as they are
>>698546362
it's true, dat nigga a cook.
>>698546362
Have you not seen those threads?
It's one of those age, occupation, salary jobs and the OP almost always is a 37yo Wendy's chef making 8.75 an hour. Then a third of people respond honestly, another third make up some six figure bullshit, and the remaining third rip on OP for calling himself a chef.
>>698546589
we all are just shooting shit and debating for the most part, uncrumple those salty panties boyo
>>698545934
How is an increased minimum wage of 15$ (basically a doubling of the current amount) not bad? If you increase the minimum wage won't it result in businesses starting to lay off people? Also wouldn't it make it more difficult for new employees to be hired thus making entry level positions into experience/education requiring positions? All in order to make up for the profits that would be lost otherwise by the people in charge of all of it?
>>698546589
>make /b/ retarded
Hmm, something about that seems arbitrary.
>>698545978
You're saying a liberal congress passed DHS into being? Cause that ain't the truth.
>>698546555
As a republican I can say these things you've listed are the worst part of the platform. If we could really get religion out of politics they'd win a lot more. But you've got the left feeding the gibmedats and the right telling everyone they're going to hell. I just want to make enough money to take care of mine. And Idgaf about anyone else and I shouldn't have to. As long as everything we collectively want and need are taken care of I shouldn't be held responsible for anyone else.
>>698546884
Look at starbucks or seattle for what happens when you drastically raise the minimum wage.
>>698546589
>users make /b/ retarded
>not vice versa
>>698541024
yeah because Shillary isn't exactly like the guy on the right
fuck you you dumb faggot
>>698546884
I literally just want to see what would happen, I'm not worried about my money but I see my friends struggling and working fucking 2 food service jobs with a degree and barely making ends meet. Part of me wants to watch these businesses burn if they can't pay a livable wage.
>>698546884
It will kill a lot of smaller businesses and probably create a recession. Those who survive will up their efforts to offshore jobs and increase use of autonomous systems. It's just one more nail in the coffin for manual labor.
chill tf out u niggers
why cant we be one giant happy family like reddit
>>698547248
What cant your buddies put their degrees to use?
>>698541486
lmao Obama extended the Patriot Act then passed the roided out version of the Patriot Act, the NDAA! you don't know shit you fucking knob
>>698547207
She's basically an old school republican at this point minus the social shit. Doesn't mean they aren't also that way and still probably moreso. Not defending her just sayin
>>698546555
As a Classical Liberal, I'm pro abortion.
Welfare has disincentivized work.
Generational poverty in the black community is now the norm. We're now to the point where grandparents and great grandparents went without a job through their lives.
These black kids in single parent households (remember, 75% of all black kids are born to a single mom), are raised thinking this IS THE NORM.
So there's already an apathy or hostility towards work/education. Now we send a young black man to jail and when he gets out, the prospects are even slimmer, not to mention he grew up thinking Big Gov should always take care of him anyway. So he adds to the violent crime rate while impregnating random women because it doesn't matter to him. He wasn't raised to believe in family. He wasn't raised to believe in hard work.
Shaneequa won't stop having kids because for every child she gets $150 extra every money.
Democrats and The Left have been in charge of Black People and their education for 60 years.
Yet it's as BAD as ever.
The black IQ has been a standard deviation below the national average for nearly a century. Compare that to any other group that immigrates to America and you'll see usually within one to two generations, their IQs have reached the national average - same thing for WAGES.
Black society has been broken by leftists. It's sad.
>>698541174
What rights...
When was the Constitution actually upheld by any Republican or Democratic president?
>>698547248
>>698547357
Anon's buddies have gender studies degrees or something as equally useless.
>>698541475
anon you are on 4 chan we know you have a great social life here
>>698542080
>she has the wall street elite behind her as well as international special interests to keep globalism going strong
this, people seem to ignore this. she is scum
>>698541872
You're an idiot. Niggers don't do well anywhere, not just in the states. Look at Africa, no white man keeping them down, and they're still in the shit there. Niggers are inherently inferior
>>698547357
Maybe they're idiots, who knows. Could be a job shortage. Only one I know is an engineer, the others are lib arts, business, and fine art.
>>698542589
...40%?
Wait, so at some point we actually had a president who taxed us 94%?
>>698547064
I'm saying it doesn't matter who controls Congress/The Executive.
Government is of a singular mind. Grow. Get Bigger. Gain control. Neo-cons are just as bad as neo-libs, if not worse due to the wolf-in-sheep's-clothing aspect.
>>698543155
This is great.
>>698545243
Only conservaturds care about the Jenners. No Liberal ever gave a fuck about her.
>>698541408
Fucking HiPoint POS
>>698547747
What is great depression and ww2, yeah that would cause a high tax rate.
>>698543333
What a fucking waste of a perfectly good get.
Used to spread more retarded denial.
>>698547936
Do not speak! Listen! You do not have more than this one chance!
I represent the entire 4chan in this matter!
Our shitlords warn us that shitpost production is in great danger! A new Shill leader, Muad'dub, has stopped shitpost mining on /pol/! Our shitlords suggest he is not of 4chan.
No one on the outside world has been able to see him. We do not know who he is. The Gookmoot cannot stop him.
Remedy the situation! Restore shitpost production, or you will live out your life in a pain amplifier!
>>698542589
Where's Ford? Where's Carter?
When Reagan took over, Inflation was at 12%, having started the year at 17%.
During the debates, Carter tried to say inflation was going up because the American people were living too well, and they needed to share the misery. Reagan answered that inflation was going up because GOVERNMENT was living too well.
Reagan kicked so much ass.
>>698542857
>the citizenry
the globalist-minded owners of the factors of production aren't "the citizenry" you dumb faggot
>>698547981
Conservatives dgaf about it at all. We just get called out for not buying into the "hero" bullshit and calling it what it is. A surgically mutilated man in a dress.
>>698542589
Graph skips the 70's because Dems fucked everything in that decade.
>>698547439
Look at this big brain solving problems with pejoratives. Surely such a big brain can imagine the resistance and compromises an incumbent president experiences when it comes to keeping the status quo or making changes.
>>698545243
>ragecomics in 2016
Fucking why
after half of the convention was kicked out for protesting. these seats were reserved for actors most likely.
>>698548127
Bump
>>698547509
Correlation does not equal causation.
>>698546589
>payed
>make just as retarded as they are
Nigger you're giving me an tumor
>>698541174
How are republicans protecting rights? Their religious base wants to take away many rights. Also, republicans were against gays marrying, are against abortions, limit free speech in the arts and on the internet. They also attempt to restrict voting rights even today.
I'm an independent and I think both parties continually hurt the average American but I gotta call bullshit when I see it.
COULD YOU WHITE PEOPLE JUST APOLOGIZE WIT YO MONEY FOR ENSLAVING US 3,000,000 YEARS AGO!?
>>698547981
>No Liberal ever gave a fuck about her.
Literally given an award for being the most bravest person and also made woman of the year at one point. Funny thing is liberals only ended up exiling him when he opened his mouth and starting speaking conservative opinions and in favor of Ted Cruz and Trump.
>>698543744
this, it's a mind fucking on a national scale
>>698548564
the budget is actually 50 million and the dnc DID RAID /pol/ and /b/
>>698541024
Yeah, the Democrats are working for the common man. That's why Obama gave the banks an $800 billion bailout just like Bush did and then enacted Quantitative Easing to making it easier for the banks to repay their debts by deliberately devaluing the currency and thus reducing the buying power of the working classes wages.
You're a fucking chump OP and I'm laughing at you.
>>698547770
Gov't is not of a single mind. There are gov'ts existing today that have over thown themselves peacefully and to greater benefit of the people they govern without growing in size or consumption.
>>698544390
>the founding fathers felt we are of better virtue
If only we could attach a dynamo to each of their coffins, we could have unlimited clean energy
>>698548680
YES! WHY WON'T ANYONE TALK ABOUT THIS!!!
Red states are less educated and productive, and therefore receive more welfare than blue states.
Anyone who thinks it's just a coincidence that Republican policies are associated with these social deficits is a goddamned retard.
>>698548707
But you see this is the loop they're throwing us all for. You lash out at dems because they accuse you of something hypocritical, but that's just it, they both do the same shit with vaguely fluid social rhetoric to distract us.
>>698541174
Oh, I forgot to add that republicans have walked all over the 4th amendment the last 15 years
>>698547509
This is one of maybe three times I whoeheartedly agree with what somebody said.
>inb4 pic related
>>698543944
this is a fallacy, the issue is that the system is rigged to funnel wealth towards the top, regardless of who pays what in taxes.
also corporatism is primarily the problem
>>698544687
Isn't that better though? Just from a moral standpoint.
>>698548616
Not him but the right at least says they support the constitution. While the left all out wants it gone or rewritten.
>>698548973
factor out niggers and try again
>>698547723
this to be honest fam, im black btw.
>>698548973
do you have a job? do you collect government benefits?
>>698541174
Oh yeah, like how the republicans wanted us to have the right to marry whoever we want. Or like how they want us to have to put whatever we want in our bodies and use recreational drugs.
Didn't republicans want rights for women and minorities to?
>>698548707
One of the rare times I agree with Noam.
>>698547747
>us
It says top tax rate, not median you fuck
someone please pay me $250 to pay me how to think, what to say, and how to vote.
>>698548973
I don't even count CO as red, we have too many healthy educated people.
>>698548325
jesus christ get real you fucking turd
>>698548127
Reagan sold the government and oversight groups to the corporate backers who had his incompetent, demented ass elected.
He was a B-list actor with NO qualifications, nothing but a vacant puppet for the GOP and its financial backers. He also went SENILE and NOBODY NOTICED, because he had always been handled.
>and you celebrate him as if he had any clue of where he even was
They DESTROYED the national economy for their own personal profit, by dismantling regulations and buying out political protection
>and you drooling imbeciles have been trained to thank them for it.
>>698549040
this, arguing about dems/repubs is a pointless waste of time
>>698541201
M-muh rights
>>698542589
>in your little cartoon
>replies with a little cartoon
I'm not saying either one of you is more correct, I'm saying you're retarded for refuting a cartoon with a cartoon
>>698541024
Hillary said she would raise taxes on the middle class though. Why would I vote for someone that wants to raise taxes on ME?
https://youtu.be/6Q3VZOT_k_0
>>698549483
Oh, great, another kid who's read A People's History and has it all figured out.
>>698549102
>New Mexico, Alaska, North/South Dakota, Montana, Kentucky, Virginia, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Idaho, Arizona, Kansas, Wyoming, Iowa, Nebraska, Utah, Indiana, Ohio
>HURR DURR IT'S THE NIGGERS
Try again, you inbred white trash parasite
>>698541428
You sound triggered, Cletus, did someone piss in your moonshine?
>>698549694
Everyone has to pay their fair share. The middle class has had their free ride long enough.
>>698541529
>muh white man struggle
>>698549785
Wow you sure proved him, here's a graph proving my point.
Hillary will move us in the right direction, and start working on getting reparations for blacks to help start writing the wrongs that they have endured.
>>698549750
I don't even know what you're talking about.
Reagan was a hollow puppet and incompetent fuckup, and if you think that's not a popular opinion you should get the fuck out from under your rock.
>>698549750
He's right. Your country is doomed, and your only hope is to win a war against China or a revolution.
>>698547747
>us
That picture doesn't represent NEET scum.
>>698549041
That's not morality.
That's sanctimony. Dr. Sowell has a good essay on this if you care to read it:
http://www.tsowell.com/spmorali.html
>>698548680
>tfw you try to be progressive by supporting a trans woman, only to find he/she supports fascist politics
>>698549881
If you break the middle class, you break the social ladder.
>>698549785
If you're willing to use IQ scores against racists, then you'd also have to be willing to use IQ scores against blacks in order to be consistent.
>>698549995
The REAL question is WHY are Republicans so fucking stupid?
Is it red state policies that make them stupid or are they just drawn to those policies BECAUSE they are naturally deficient? Are naturally stupid people drawn to xenophobia or does the process of social isolation make people stupid?
>why not both?
>>698549881
Sounds like someones a teensy bit too drunk from beer bought with welfare money, aren't they?
>>698548635
S-sorry :(
>>698550304
>because cultural bias doesn't exist in IQ tests
try again
maybe read something about IQ tests while you're at it
>>698549881
Pay a fair share for what? Why should my tax burden be increased to 70% while Tyrone from the hood lives off welfare and while the super rich get to keep their 40% tax rate?
If you ask me we should heavily cut back on welfare programs and government size, decrease the taxes on the working lower and middle class and increase the taxes on the ultra rich.
If you want something you should pay for it yourself and if you can't pay for it yourself you should find a job.
>>698549694
The way I see it, us who are in the middle class (and those who are more fortunate) can fairly easily pay more taxes, which in general do a whole lot of good for our society. Thats just the way I see it though.
>>698549144
do you?
>>698549102
You'd have to factor out all the white niggers too, of which there is a LOT in those states.
>>698550468
So cultural bias only swings one way?
>Trump will do anything about it
Trump is toxic to the entire Republican party, he's beginning to tank the Senate election polls.
Dude's crashing this party with no survivors.
>>698550339
Hillshills say the darndest little things.
>>698541024
you are a fucking moron, just kill yourself
>>698544807
Depends on the notion of freedom. There's positive and negative liberty. Negative liberty is the classical liberal ideal of being free from government control, such as freedom of speech, religion, to start a business, etc. Positive liberty is the ability to fulfill one's goals, like getting public education in order to uplift yourself, healthcare so you don't become maimed and bankrupted, infrastructure to enable free an easy travel, etc.
>>698550587
yes i work, and no i do not collect welfare. i don't expect everything in my life to be handed to me.
>>698545984
>implying black people can organize a large group to actually prosper on food stamps by screwing the government
that's the real joke
>>698550413
You can't buy any of those things with welfare. How do you even know she's on welfare? By the way, I found your prescribes clothing items for those on welfare.
>>698550413
>black
>on welfare
k
>>698549785
Just curious, did they poll a bunch of people and outright ask them if they were racist?
>>698550627
that's how bias works, you retard
it favors one culture over another, such as a white, European ancestry
>>698550838
There are a lot of places where people take pride in such things, getting a sample is not difficult
>>698550747
I disagree with the premise outright.
Liberty is liberty. My rights are bestowed by my 'creator', not the government.
>Positive liberty is the ability to fulfill one's goals.
I mean, that's utter bullshit. Is that what they're teaching now?
>>698550468
Blacks live in America and perform worse than whites, and Asians also live in America and perform better on average.
If I wanted to be weasely I could just claim that racists just have a different culture and the IQ tests are biased against them.
Furthermore, there are culturally independent IQ tests, specifically Raven progressive matrices which only use geometric patterns. Blacks still perform worse on such tests.
>>698550692
maybe you should listen more
>>698550677
Why didn't we go with Kasich? Woulda had a much better chance.
>>698543333
There's actually some truth in OP's meme. It's exactly the reason so many repubs are all pissed off and are now voting for trump.
>>698551027
>250 usd has been deposited into your paypal account
>>698550291
>tfw progressiveness as a whole has largely turned into supporting narratives that go against reality and being surprised when those inconsistencies make themselves present but you just try to keep the blinders on and keep using buzzwords towards the opposition
>tfw you have no face
>>698550468
If IQ tests are so culturally biased, then how come 7 of the top 10 countries with the highest IQ scores are Asian?
>>698542125
I would venturet to say that most people with jobs in IT/technology seem to be mostly liberal; it's a field that is the most productive and important to society and difficult to excel at. Also requires at least slightly above average intellect.
>>698550767
>all government benefits are considered welfare
are you stupid? You receive plenty of government benefits if you actually pay taxes.
Just for being married, I receive a few thousand from the Federal government, I'm sure you qualify for some.
FYI, I don't take "welfare" either, and if you assume everyone you disagree with does then you are a grade A piece of shit.
>>698550850
>>698550468
This is retarded.
The Black IQ has been 15 points below the national average since they started testing.
Dems and the left have been Black People's new Massah's since the 50s.
West African's are above the national average in both IQ and wage.
Black culture/society have BEEN DESTROYED by leftist policies.
You all need to stop judging public policy on how well-intentioned it is, and look at the real world effects.
>>698550805
Yes you can. You can make a decent amount of money off of welfare by living in the right state and having a couple of kids early enough.
>>698549587
You same fagged your own post. Thats pretty sad, even for a /b/tard.
>>698551232
Are you talking about your tax return?
Mother fucker, that's YOUR money, it always was.
>>698551133
I wish
You might be stupid enough to pay people to post things on /b/, but most people aren't. Cry all you want about people disagreeing with you, the truth is this ISN'T reddit or facebook, and we're simply not worth it.
>>698550987
There's no proof of a creator, but that's another discussion.
Rights are legal constructs. They only exist because enough people fought for them
If you're a destitute street urchin in some laissez-faire society you are still less free than a wealthy aristocrat in Imperial Rome. You have no money, no education, no support structure, and you can't do much shit at all, which inhibits your freedom in real life terms.
>>698551380
that's not how tax works. You receive tax credits as part of government benefits programs.
If you don't like it, fuck right off and stay ignorant.
>>698550987
>My rights are bestowed by my 'creator'
Your parents don't bestow rights, your government does. You can argue all day that "you're bestowed upon birth with the freedom to say whatever you want" but at the end of the day, it only matters where you happened to be born. Under the American government, you can say the current regime has been a disappointment. Under the North Korean government, you cannot say the current regime has been a disappointment without being thrown in a gulag.
Regardless of which "creator" bestowed these "rights" upon you, one group of more powerful people than you says you can, and another group of more powerful people than you says you can't. In effect, the government under which you presently reside decides your rights. End of story.
>>698541024
> implying the scenario is any different when voting democrat
>>698551404
we are being raided by the dnc. ever since the last night of the dnc, /pol/ and /b/ were hit hard.
>250 usd has been deposited into your paypal account.
>>698544047
actually believing that the other parties aren't minions of the two major parties is laughable.
its almost as if you have no idea how the country works
>black culture/society is a product of leftist policies
you have absolutely no clue whatsoever. Read a fucking history book or look at a fucking political map.
>where are all the niggers at????
RED STATES YOU FUCKING IDIOT
>>698550807
I didn't know that blacks were such a problem for you. I'm sorry for reminding you of what you had to share your government program with. Take care :)
>>698549051
Yes and thank goodness people thought that the constitution is imperfect and needs changing. Otherwise we would still have slavery and you'd have to own properly just to be able to vote
>>698550850
So poor whites still have the same knowledge as rich whites? Wouldnt cultural bias not effect people from the same country?
>>698542589
wow the misleading horse shit please kill yourself if you actually believe this..
>>698551601
>pissing into sea of piss, etc.
Why bother paying shills when everyone is doing it for free anyway?
Are you actually this stupid or just trying to spread paranoia because you can feel your side losing?
>>698545155
>smoking causes cancer
>"yeah well my grandpa smoked his whole life and he doesn't have cancer so no it doesn't"
that's literally how retarded you sound
>remember you are being paid
>do not attempt to think
>do not attempt to write freely
>conform
>250 has been deposited into your paypal acount
>>698551679
this was for >>698551267
>>698551844
if i wanted your opinion i would pay for it. stop talking.
>>698551704
no, you're a moron
>>698551267
Black IQs are typically 18 to 20 points higher on average than hard right winger's IQs. Numerous studies have shown this to be true.
>>698551943
no you wouldn't, that's kind of my point
this thread is going to be dead within minutes, why would anyone bother trying to ACCOMPLISH anything here, much less PAY FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO TRY???
How fucking deep does your self-deception go?
>>698551866
Trump patrol here! Don't worry about Hillary's donations. We are getting millions and millions of dollars donated to us. Believe me! We are going to have so much money .
Hillary is so bought and paid for. Don't believe her.
Trump patrol will handle these shills
>>698551679
This is actually somewhat true. Thomas Sowell wrote on this in "Black Rednecks and White Liberals" highlighting how ghetto culture is an amalgamation of the redneck, Southern antebellum culture and the Cracker culture of the North Britons and Scots-Irish which was described as such:
>an aversion to work, proneness to violence, neglect of education, sexual promiscuity, improvidence, drunkenness, lack of entrepreneurship,… and a style of religious oratory marked by strident rhetoric, unbridled emotions, and flamboyant imagery.[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Rednecks_and_White_Liberals
>>698546589
>payed
>"libtard"
>liberals have a higher IQ on average than right-wingers
how's that sub-100 IQ treating you?
>>698551483
EITC? I still put in more than I get out of that, faggot.
>>698552050
Never heard of that before. You got any links?
>>698552050
Show proof, bitch.
>>698551513
no no no no no no no no
My rights EXIST WITH OR WITHOUT THE GOVERNMENT.
My God, that you really think the opposite is terrifying. The commies are fucking winning.
I put creator in quotes for a reason, moron.
>>698552093
remember you have sold yourself to the highest bidder. and you were only offered 250 bucks every 48 hours. do NOT attempt to think for yourself. do NOT attempt anything without asking for permission first.
>>698552050
kek, rednecks are literally the dumbest people in America.
Sigh
Stupid goyim. You people really have no concept of what makes or break nations, have you. The trush is that historically going bankrupt was far more likely to make nations collapse than civic issues like income disparity or intra-national unrest. That's why civil wars usually result in damage that can be repaired but financial crashes of sufficient magnitude easily eliminate nations altogether. As a result, national spending on useless sectors is an insanely dangerous slope, far more destructive than giving light taxation to richer ones
The whole basis to the modern welfare and senior citizen support is a german late 19th century invention, and it was supposed to be generated with just enough tax money and annuity funding to support a retired citizen until reaching exactly the age of life expectency, which was 60 at the time, and not a single day further.
Thus ensuring the expectency of expenses would be 0 and the state wouldn't spend more than it makes, or tax more than it should.
Nearly all american debt belongs to the US social security, not China. Your retarded acts of affirmative action and supporting nigger welfare queens are drowning you in debt, as black median intelligence is simply too low to effectively employ them in wealth generating positions, meaning returns on that money are fucking negative. What kind of a fucking retarded government invensts in negative returns?! Worse, what kind of a fucking stupid politician even concieves the idea of taxing domestic businesses (which generate positive income) and thus reducing their profits in order to support a deal with negative returns?!
FFS, vote Trump. I'm a fucking jew, so I know enough about money to say that any population whose intelligence is low is bad to have around. First get rid of the poor mexicans (as the wealthy and more capable hispanics have no reason to leave Mexico), and then outbreed the niggers to oblivilion, maybe by importing all white swedes when the muslims start killing them
>>698551679
Who said anything about the states in which they reside, moron?
These are Federal fucking policies we're discussing. Go back to recess.
>be me
>be conservative
>"we shouldn't raise minimum wage, it leads to offshoring and hurts small business and will take away jobs in the long run"
oh so you admit that we're developing so quickly that low-skill jobs are quickly becoming automated? maybe we should raise the taxes then, so that you don't have to live in squalor if you're not educated!
>no, i'm not giving anyone handouts. I worked for what I have, why should they get any of it?
top fucking kek
>>698552260
Where do you think these rights magically come from? The only thing that makes something a right as opposed to a "thing that I wish I were able to do" is that an entity (like a government) with enough power is willing to defend that right.
>>698543155
kek
Look up ethiopan IQ's
Lower than Gorillas
top fucking kek
>>698551850
I know plenty of dipshits who would think that's a good argument.
>>698552364
pretty good money
>>698552535
The constitution says our rights are inalienable and bestowed by our 'creator'. NOT THE GOVERNMENT.
Are you American?
>>698541024
/pol/ fuck off. We know liberals rarely visit this site. The ones that do aren't butthurt all the time about it. You are obviously alt-right stormfront users trying to get a rise out of center-right faggots here to make them join your cause. That explains all the Pro-Hillary/Anti-Trump and "Nigger hate/rekt" threads.
>>698552260
Would your rights still exist if you were a peasant in Feudal Europe? How about if you were being eaten by a wild animal on some desert island?
>OF COURSE
Then you would claim this small, nearly insignificant fraction of history with its modern conveniences and laws is the only time when your rights have even been validated.
>BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE
internet access is now considered a right by hundreds of millions of people at least. Do you agree? Did feudal era peasants have this right and not know about it? How many do you have that YOU don't know about yet?
What I'm getting at, is that you've defined "rights" in a way that is completely USELESS. Society has agreed on a different definition for the word based on laws and social subjectivity, and while you may disagree with them, at least their definition creates functional language.
>>698541024
And democrats a any better? Get fucked dude. Your opinion smells like shit. They all do
>>698552672
LET ME KNOW IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN 125 USD EVERYDAY OR 250 USD EVERYDAY. I WILL GIVE YOU THE LINK.
>>698552535
>>698552689 (me)
I think you're trolling me. No way you actually believe that utter twaddle.
You're probably also the type who says, "There's no such thing as American culture"
>>698552777
>We know liberals rarely visit this site.
guaranteed that this site is more liberal than it is conservative, there's just a lot of trolls and the whole vocal minority thing.
>>698541024
this