You have exactly 10 (ten) seconds to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt why this should be legal.
>pro-tip you can't
Because murica
>>697868563
you're absolutely right the mentally infirm should never be allowed to handle fire arms
>>697868563
>10 (ten)
for what purpose
That looks like it's chambered in .22
Nothing to see here folks.
>>697868743
Goddamn it, you beat me to it.
>>697868563
why not
>>697868743
Because suck my dick, faggot.
That's why.
If you want it, come and take it.
>>697868824
Ok, fine, this one then
Surely nobody needs the capability to fire 30 high-powered rounds in under five seconds
>>697869191
Why do I need it? I want it
>>697869304
>>697869191
Also who are you to decide what someone other than you needs
>>697868563
Because it could just as easily be an assault rifle or a super soaker. Banning weapons based on physical characteristics is a distinctly liberal brand of stupid. Have someone take a basic firearms course and actually educate themselves on the issue a bit before they attempt to write another pointless gun law, perhaps us "gun nuts" would consider voting for it, but probably not, because it's pretty pointless to pass new laws to prevent actions that are already highly illegal.
>>697868563
You're right, the AR-15 is a terrible design. There should be laws barring any company from continuing to make it.
>>697869642
How is it terrible
>>697869191
There are many things no one needs. Why do you care anyway? If you had complete control over American law, what would you do? I am genuinely curious.
As the person making a claim the burden of proof is upon you good sir. Also, consider consuming an extreme quantity of penis.
To defend against tyranny. Whatcha gonna do when the government is using these against you and you have a hunting rifle. Die, that's what.
>>697868563
"shall not be infringed"
No, it wasn't limited to militia.
>>697869642
That isn't an AR
>>697869191
>>697869191
What fucking semi auto can do that?
>>697868743
it's a .22 so children can shoot it just fine.
>>697869191
Fuck off faggot. This is America. I don't need pizza rolls, Hotdogs and beer, and rosa parks didn't need to sit in that seat. But in America, it's not about what you need, it's about what have a right to, so long as you respect the rights of others. So fuck off with that need shit commie.
Well I fapped to it so
>>697868563
You are totally right. Females should not be allowed out of the kitchen.
>>697869191
>Surely nobody needs the capability to fire 30 high-powered rounds in under five seconds
-5.56 is not high powered round
-you obviously have never used a semi auto rifle
-you can't get off 6 rounds a second without lots of custom shit and years of training
-that is a standard capacity magazine because that was what the rifle was designed around
Why are you so scared ignorant fearful and wish to be so authoritarian?
To kill niggers and faggots like yourself
>>697869774
>jams when it gets the slightest bit of sand in its vagina
>shoots its cum load of gas into its own chamber making it dirty as fuck and requiring it to be cleaned every 100 rounds or so
>bolt lugs shear off for no reason whatsoever
>regularly misfeeds
>regularly fails to eject
>>697869191
except the ar-15 is civilian legal, which means it doesn't have full auto capabilities and modifying it to fire anything but semi-auto is illegal as fuck and will get you sent to federal "pound me in the ass" prison.
any other questions?
>>697868563
in case a physically superior axe murderer is hunting you
>>697869191
First, If you can fire 30 off accurately on a semi auto in five seconds I'm impressed. I average Second, the second amendment was written to protect the citizens from a corrupt government, not for hunting, home defense, or any of that bullshit. We're supposed to be on parity with the government... Because we are the government. In fact, we're overdue for some bloodletting in the higher ranks.
>>697869191
Nobody "need" 876 flavours of ice cream.
>>697868563
Women should not wear pants. Because god.
>>697869815
Destroy all assault weapons in circulation.
Summarily execute anyone caught with possesion of one, in their city square, preferably also being televised and live-streamed.
Only single-shot shotguns and single-shot hunting rifles would be legal, but there would be miles of paperwork to even own one of them.
Manditory registration on every gun.
Manditory registration on every bullet sold.
>>697869774
Gas tube clogs, locking lug is brittle, easy to jam, hard to maintain in the field.
It is legal where I live.
>>697870649
>Summarily execute
Imma fight potential violence with brutal public violence
>>697870546
31 flavors of ice cream? What, do you have a small dick? Nobody would ever need 31 flavors you fucking redneck. The founding fathers only intended for us to have one flavor of ice cream: mint chocolate chip. All other flavors should be illegal. How many kids have to get diabetes before you give up your fucking precious 31 flavors?
>>697870649
So basically you'd be dead within a week of assuming office? Cool!
>>697870649
so you are going to send people with guns to enforce those new laws right?
Do you not see the flaw in your logic?
>>697870461
>>697869191
This:
>>697870086
Fully auto weapons are already illegal, assclown... So called "assault weapons" are not fully auto. They don't differ in any functional way from any other semiautomatic weapons. They just look scary.
Liberals love to talk down to people who don't do their research. I love arguing about guns, because it allows me to do the same to them. Go read a book about guns so you don't sound so fucking stupid.
>>697870649
Oh so you're just a troll
Fyi assault rifles are banned in the us they are military grade.
The weapons in these pics are semi auto rifles. Two completely different guns. So go ahead and keep screaming BAN ASSAULT RIFLES because they all ready are.
>>697870050
Lol. People like in that photo.
>>697870897
Absolutely.
The only people who need access to those weapons are the military and police.
No reason for some piss-ant civilian to have that kind of firepower.
>>697870649
Ok. You didn't mention anything about handguns. Are those also illegal in your hypothetical utopia?
>>697871214
You're a special kind of idiot. The kind that isn't special, yet is still an idiot.
>>697871238
They would fall under the category of "assault weapons" if they hold more than a single shot or are easily concealable.
So yes, totally illegal except for military/police.
>>697870947
>>697870920
Not illegal. Just require a class III license and the gun can't have been made or imported after 1986. A full auto M16 costs like $15,000-$20,000.
>>697869883
This
Inb4 conspiracy, china
>>697870649
>mfw American riflemen are the best in the world
>mfw I can hit a dinner plate at 200 yards easy with iron sights and I'm not even that good
>mfw you're talking about pissing off tens of millions of the best armed, best trained civilian marksmen on the planet and making their very existence punishable with death, thereby forcing them to fight.
Because if foreign armies were to take over your country it's important to protect yourself.
>>697871507
>more than a single shot
This is why it should be legal to kill communists
>>697870649
There are 80 million gun owners in the US. 1.7 million active duty military and about 800,000 cops. The day you pass that law is the day the government falls. That's not law enforcement, that's a civil war, and you're on the losing side by about a 32 to 1 margin. And that's assuming the cops or military don't turn around and arrest you for sedition on the spot, which they are bound by oath to do exactly that.
Read. A. Fucking. Book.
>>697868563
Population control. This planet isnt big enough for everyone.
>>697868563
because niggers
>>697868563
Those shoes and jeans SHOULDN'T be legal my god.
Why are liberals so trusting of the government as to give them absolute power?
OP, surely you recognize that the government is evil and corrupt. What makes you want to give them total power over your life?
>>697871507
Ok. How far would you go with outlawing different types of weaponry? Knives? Tasers? Bows? Crossbows? Would you restrict the single shot rifles to a maximum caliber?
>>697868563
>>697868563
Because any gun can kill you.
>>697871214
*heavy sigh
a bad troll or willfully ignorant of history
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYFN6seSBSo
Do you seriously want to give the retards that this test was designed for a monopoly on violence?
There, and all in less than ten (10) 11-1 (8+2) 5+5 (twenty divided by two) seconds
>>697871610
Pre-86 ban machine guns don't require a class III license. Thats for FFL manufacturers. Transferable machineguns (those whose receiver was manufactured before 1986) only require a $200 tax stamp to transfer. However a trust is usually the only way to get that transfer completed. Gaining a class III manufacturers license is arguably easier and cheaper than finding a transferable machinegun. With the added benefit of being able to buy post-ban dealer copies of more modern machine guns. But you are right that most transferable receivers or DIAS are $10-30,000 depending on the gun.
>>697868563
Which one, being a women or being a gun owner?
>People who keep saying, "Assault rifles"
>>697868563
>>697868563
It is legal though you jackass
>>697873076
Assault rifles are a thing, it's just that the ar-15 is not an assault rifle.
Agreed, .22 should be just discontinued ASAP and let 9mm take its place
>>697872633
Or you could buy one on the darknet for a few hundred bucks. Or buy a block of aluminum and a 1000 dollar milling machine to manufacture your own...
The gun control we have is unenforceable already. We can manufacture our own parts more cheaply than we can purchase them. It will never be difficult to get a gun again, which is why they should be made as legal as possible. If every criminal with a few bucks can be armed, we need as many armed citizens as possible.
>>697868563
Because women dont deserve right duh
>>697873391
I'm saying there is no such thing as an, "Assault rifle". Only fully automatic / semi / single shot weapons. It's a libcuck phrase.
US Constitution. Right to bear arms have a well regulated militia. It truly is that simple. The 2nd ammendment doesn't refer to modern firearms but doesn't state anything to the contrary. Go fume about feminism or misogyny somewhere you beta liberal.
Pic related
>>697873651
Thank you! It's just a pop word re-coined by Feinstein.
>>697873651
No, "assault rifle" is an actual term for a select-fire rifle that fires an intermediate cartridge from a detachable magazine.
"Assault weapon" is the libcuck made-up buzzword.
You have ten seconds to prove to me that cars should be legal.
>>697873830
Alright I'll give you one on that.
>>697873781
>>697873651
You're both wrong.
>>697873830
This anon is right. Listen to him.
>>697873514
Basically the best pro gun argument
>"HURR DURR I have zero firearm training/experience/knowledge" the thread
OP go be a liberal somewhere else
You all realize the time is coming very fast now when you are going to need one...
>>697868563
Doesn't matter. It is legal and you have to deal with it cuck
>>697874119
Why would I ever need one though?
The police will protect me if I ever need them. That's kinda their jobs.
Nice to know even the UK is getting back on board again!
>>697873854
Or fast food.
>>697874294
>Why would I ever need one though?
>The police will protect me if I ever need them. That's kinda their jobs.
You will be the fist to die...
>>697874294
No it's not. Their job is to enforce laws. They will not dispatch a cop to watch over you for weeks at a time unless they're entirely certain that someone will commit a crime.
You deserve what's coming.
>>697868563
Are you that reporter who shot an AR at the the range and had ptsd afterwards?
>>697872962
mother of god that is gorgeous!
I have a love for drillings and similar.
>>697868563
Look, another fag that thinks AR stands for assualt rifle. BTW whats the difference between this or any other semi auto handgun / rifle. You have 10 seconds to explain what the difference is and why an AR15 should be illegal. Go.
>>697874294
And they suck at it. They'll show up just in time to take pretty pics of your corpse and never catch your killer.
You never need a gun until you do, and when you do, you're fucked if you don't have one. I don't fuck everything that moves, but I still carry around a condom.
>>697874312
can be filled with AIDS infected blood
>assault water pistol
>>697868563
There surely is no reason for a 22. AR.
Thats correct.
>>697874751
>the sound was deafening
>I had to scrape the shit flakes OT of drawers after the ordeal
>I shook in fear of the shear destructive force that erupted out of the barrel
>I have developed PTSD from the ordeal
OP is reporter fag confirmed
It's nice to know that even the faggots on /b/ are starting to get real...
>>697874861
>You never need a gun until you do
Give me one single example of any time I would ever "need" a gun.
I'm completely against murdering any other living beings, thank you.
>>697874826
probably because the ar-15 is a BIG BLACK SCARY GUN.
Bet if it looked like it was made of wood zero people would complain.
>>697875078
Sounds like he is.
>>697875078
>>697875118
German engineering at its finest. I almost picked one up at Cabelas a few years back. I totally regret not doing it now
>>697875176
You must not live in a place with a high population of niggers. Check your privilege.
>>697875176
Except if your own life is in danger. Fucking autist.
>>697875176
You're against killing in order to save yourself or your loved ones? Then you deserve your death. Better yet, kill yourself now.
The world does not owe you a living. It is nobody's responsibility to keep you alive but yours. Nobody cares whether you live or die. Take your life into your own hands before someone else takes your life for the ten bucks in your wallet.
>>697875176
>Give me one single example of any time I would ever "need" a gun
You ready to get BTFO?
>Uber
>http://www.businessinsider.com/uber-driver-with-concealed-handgun-prevents-mass-shooting-in-chicago-2015-4\
>https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/04/20/uber-driver-with-gun-apparently-stops-would-be-mass-shooter-have-civilians-stopped-such-mass-shootings-before/
>http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-uber-driver-shoots-gunman-met-0420-20150419-story.html
>Pearl High School Shooting
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_High_School_shooting
>http://www.cnn.com/US/9806/12/school.shooting.verdict/
>http://www.jacksonfreepress.com/news/2012/dec/18/miss-schools-eye-security-after-conn-shooting/
>http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1997-10-01/news/9710020087_1_pearl-high-school-luke-woodham-boy
>Parker Middle School Dance, James Strand
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parker_Middle_School_dance_shooting
>http://www.cnn.com/US/9804/25/school.shooting.pm/
>http://old.post-gazette.com/regionstate/19990910teacher1.asp
>http://www.nytimes.com/1998/04/26/us/student-guns-down-science-teacher-chaperoning-school-dance.html
>AT&T store in New York Mills
>http://www.uticaod.com/article/20100527/NEWS/305279879
>http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/29/ny-man-killed-shooting-phone-store-clerk-banned-making-threats-slurs/
>http://cnycentral.com/news/local/store-employee-in-critical-condition-after-shooting?id=463439
Will you cry now?
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-06-23/phoenix-teen-shoots-intruder/55782484/1
http://www.military.com/video/guns/rifles/kid-shoots-burglar-with-dads-ar-15/2086401790001
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2
This post was originally 17,000 characters long but /b/ limits posts to 2000....
>>697875294
>ruger p08 at cabelas
Wait, seriously?
>>697875176
You are so beta that it is causing me physical pain. Why can't we roll back time and allow spineless scum like you to be scraped off of the boot of a real man. That's it. You are incapable of defending yourself or your family and I can only hope that someday you will fall prey to the wolf. That way you can see just how insignificant your liberal skills are. I hope that you feel helpless and curl up into a ball.
>>697868743
Already the case. Neither can domestic assualters. Neither can criminals legally own them either.
Btw describe mentally infirm. You just lost your mom, dad. Youre now depressed. Your also now mentally ill by definition. No gun rights for you. The person who likes to use broad language. Fo you eve know your own state or neighboring states carry laws? If you are in a state where conceal carry is legal. How many people you reckon that you pass each day carrying. Numbers larger than you imagine i bet. Most states you can look up conceal carry permits issued or a percent of the population that has them. Yet here you are none the wiser perfectly fine.
"Boogey Woogie Wooo"
>>697875294
>German engineering at its finest
it was originally bored for .22
not .22LR
.22
it had such little stopping power that the officers issued it didn't even bother loading it
if they couldn't get another side arm
they would just use the Ruger as a club
>>697875615
please make a pastebin of the long post :D
post it here ofc
>>697875176
The primary function of a weapon is not to murder, or even use in self defense. That is the last resort function. The primary function is to prevent violence. Most cops will never draw their weapons, but it saves their lives every day just by being available.
"If I'm anti-gun, I'm pro-rape?"
damn.... now I'm all types of conflicted.
>>697875668
Robert Heinlein was right tbh.
>>697868563
The government should fear the people- not the other way around
>>697875176
Yet you allow people to be killed on situations that guns would have saved their life
>>697875681
>Neither can criminals legally own them either.
:D
Criminals, by definition, don't give a fuck about laws....
>>697868563
Prove beyond a shadow of a doubt why any human right (like personal defense) should be legal
>>697875751
Regardless, it was a fine design that ended up influencing firearms made in the future.
Although I didn't know that about 22. Are you sure? I always assumed it was chambered in 9x19.
>>697875668
>sheepdog detected
What made you to decide to crawl out of /k/?
>>697876167
What made you decide to crawl out of reddit?
Wait, don't answer, it was obviously the sissy threads.
>>697876167
I'd rather be the sheepdog than the sheep itself.
>>697870649
What the fuck made you cut your balls off and give them to the government?
Like seriously, you are literally saying "Here, government, I am a tied, fully cooked pig. Please pick at my guts with your greedy, sniveling hands. I am not but a mere cuck here to keep your women unsatisfied and your pockets full."
>>697875862
quote from Starship Troopers that was written as a satire on the polemarchic path the US was taking in the 1960s
Heinlein used to live near D.C.
he decided he wouldn't be nuked bc the politicians were goading the Soviets into war
so he moved to Colorado Springs
a few months after he moved the US began construction on the Cheyenne Mountain Complex, which immediately became the #1 target for Soviet nukes
so he wrote Starship Troopers as an over the top exaggeration of what the US was doing to convince people that a less confrontational approach was needed
Heinlein himself was an armed pacifist (like Switzerland and Sweden) and an anarchist
>>697870086
Every semi auto I have in my hand. You can't pull a trigger 30 times in under 6 seconds? I know I can. Do it every Sunday.
Remember when basic self defense and a general understanding of how to kill were everyday, run of the mill skills? Simpler times man. Every man should be somewhat violent, anything else is unnatural.
>>697868563
>>697876094
>I always assumed it was chambered in 9x19.
after a year it was bc they realized how shit the gun was as a .22
there were many allied soldiers that walked around with a ruger round in them until it was found in an unrelated x-ray years later
>>697869191
>Surely nobody needs the capability to fire 30 high-powered rounds in under five seconds
your mom does because Quagmire has built up a resistance to the first 29 bullets in any gun.
>>697868563
The grass is tall
>>697868563
Looks like a person firing a weapon at a target, what's the problem
I assume we have all gotten past Obama's nigger shit....
>>697869191
So...what part of the Europe are you from?
Just so we are all clear about who is causing the gun crime...
>>697876526
Got a single source for that stream of bullshit?
The film was satire, not the book. Heinlein had literally nothing to do with that awful movie.
Not to mention that fact that Heinlein served in the armed forces. Pacifist? Anarchist? Sure thing m80.
Cool reddit copypasta though.
>>697875769
Wrong. If you pull a gun out of intimidation. That IS illegal. Its usually called brandishing. Imminent fear of death allows the use of leathal force. Some states have castle laws. And can be very grey areas if you shoot someone who isnt posing a deadly threat. Not saying i agree with it. But that is beside the point..
You pull on a person and are not in imminent fear of death that isnt legal and will be a legal nightmare for you. The use of leathal force is very clear in carry lsws. Google is your friend. You would know this if you actually took the mandatory ccw class required to get a conceal carry permit.
You are also not leo. To in general not inject yourself into a situation you walk up on. For many many reasons. One being you got no idea what transpired to kick shit off. Legal nightmare. No law on this really but if you inject yourself in a situation and threaten or harm a wrong party. Youre are now a felon and going to jail. Guns have a few purposes including just shooting for fun sport.
Goodnight Chesty, wherever you are. How did it get like this?
>everyone can have guns
Almost no one gets robbed, home owners can defend themselves
>No one can have guns
"Oh wow, I cant have something illegal to use to do something illegal. Oh wait...
>Cue black market
People get shot and stabbed, etc.
>>697876526
Jesus christ, I hope you don't actually believe any of that.
You might need to save this one anons....
>>697876526
>quote from Starship Troopers
wrong
>Starship Troopers was written as a satire
wrong again
>Heinlein himself was an armed pacifist
don't you ever get tired of being wrong?
>and an anarchist
apparently not
it's clear you've never actually read starship troopers if you think it's satire. also you know next to nothing about heinlein.
>>697869304
i want to fuck kim kardashians plump ass but it doesnt mean i can have that
>>697877728
>Remington 870
>premium
wut
>>697878122
My 870 express was $350 bucks out the door...
>>697868563
Does autism run deep in your family?
>>697871917
>>697870361
underrated
>>697878287
Same here. I was under the impression that it was like the mossberg 500: the cheapest shotgun that isn't a piece of shit. Did /k/ steer me wrong? I've seen shotguns for 900 dollars and up.
>>697869642
>>697870461
spotted the AK fags
Girls with guns can be very dangerous.
>>697868563
When you're jerking off to lolis and some retarded YouTube "pedophile hunters" break into your house illegally, what are you going to do? Throw desk figures at them? Grab their knives when they try to stab you? It's either you or them and you might as well have better chances of staying uninjured.
>>697878287
Put something in it othere than dove shot.. you'll just piss someone off with that. Dont know how much research youve done on self defense loads. But that can be a great self def. Platform minus its length. Shot wont travel through many walls. A slug might. Youtube tnoutdoors does great gel tests. Though i dont know if he does shotguns.
>>697878550
The 870 will do any job that needs to be done. No reason to spend more unless it has like gold inlays of ducks or such shit.
>>697878622
That's so hot! She's got a nice ass too.
>>697878856
Good point. Although a semi auto would be nice.
>>697879023
dude she's like 13
>>697878856
This guy gets it. Owned mime for about 8 years with zero problems. Frequent range time when I first picked it up, now it sits by my door I'm case of a dindu nuffin assault. Regular maintenance and almost any firearm isn't shit tier. Besides high-point. Fuck high-point. And Kahr
>>697879141
This is 4chan. I'm pretty sure he knew.
>>697869191
>5.56
>high powered
kek
>>697879254
pedos get out reeeeeeeee
Because in The Federalist Papers, Alexander Hamilton says that a militia should be present to defend the country, rather than a standing army which is controlled by the government, and can be used by a tyrant for evil. The militia that he speaks of, shall not be regulated or controlled by a government because it would then be a standing army. Basically, read more, pleb.
>>697879141
Yeah. Your point?
>>697879254
Pretty much.
>>697868563
>hello im here for the rape
>no
/thread
>>697878829
At close range 7.5 bird shot will cut a dindu in half.
Further the 00 buck shot is nice.
But I keep a shit load of high velocity slugs around to to stop bears or the equivalent before I get to the 220gr 30-06... My woman will be spraying the scene with .223 all this time.... Kids might jump in with 9mm and shit too...
We gonna make a big mess.... :D
>>697869191
OP you are missing the point, the purose of the second amendment is to make sure no government can be allowed to go out of the peoples control and never have the ability to physically take or do anything without the consent of the american people
#iwant2buyafighterjet
>>697879072
Semi auto is way more complex for just a cannon. Realize. 99.9% of the time if you have to shot just one shot to solve the problem. But if you want a semi-auto shotgun get it since if SHTF you will want to be very near a gun you really love ;)
>>697868563
Stay mad pussy
:O
>>697868563
There have been like twenty attacks in europe where guns are banned. Meanwhilr the u.s.a as had one in that time period. France is actually going to up security its gotten so bad, meaning this is no longer an arguement, we need guns.
>>697868743
Devastating
Of course....
All the anti-gun cucks ran away so we can't fuck with them :(
>>697876526
>he just runs away since he knows his retarded assertions are indefensible
Later, faggot.
>>697868563
free choice nigga
essentially we're all born with no peers, given that it stand to reason laws are only for the protection of "society". If I don't chose to participate literally the only thing others can do to ultimately stop me exercising my free will is to kill me.
Which they'll probably do with a gun.
>>697881688
Gotta check those sweet hitler dubs
because I can
>>697880933
Fuck yes
>>697878550
>>697878856
>>697879241
This.
870 ME is my go to recommendation for a first time gun buyer.
Great all around gun that requires little maintenance
honestly the average person will never have a proper use for a semi automatic rifle. a lot of people do use them though especially for hog hunting, you want a quick follow up shot if you dont wanna get gored.
>>697878622
anyone got the gif of the 9year old blowing the instructor's brains out with an uzi? Family dining, yankee style.
>>697881972
Is that the little ruger .380?
Tried out my buddies the other day, its a silly little gun.
If anyone in the USA is wondering about how to buy a gun...
Here is the first page of the form you fill out which is most of it.
Here is the whole thing:
https://www.atf.gov/file/61446/download
The answers are all in the back :D
If you pass the test you can buy just about any gun in the shop.
>>697882121
remington quality control is shit tho, why not a used police ithaca chambered for 3-1/2 shells?
>>697882219
I use it for all kinds of small game; coyotes especially are the plague
>>697882321
yeah it's accurate to about 10 yards... not much more
>>697870461
Have fired 1000 rounds through my AR havent cleaned it yet no misfires or jams and it still fires like a dream im sure the one you used was a piece of shit
>>697868563
when its time to defend ourselves from our own country is when we will need these assault weapons. the gun matter really is a double edge sword though..
>>697882320
They always redacted the videos right before it got good :(
All we have is good ol' Tex who realized it was too good not to post a mistake to help others not do that shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paxk_LPmdMI
>>697881972
Dont listen to that other faggot. Ruger 308 is a beautiful CC weapon system
>>697874294
So a guy across the street from my house had a break in. The dude phoned the police but by the time they were there the robber was gone. I was talking with one of the officers about it and he said something to me."We catch the criminal after the crime has been committed more often then during the crime." I have heard this from some officers that worked at my old high school as well. They said that having protection on you is highly advised as there is a good chance they will be there after it is too late. So next time you say my cops will defend me just realize cops can only get to you so fast.
>>697868563
how about this.
>>697879821
No it wont. Ive shot windshields with 3 1/2" 00 steel and didnt penatrate. Point blank. 7 1/2 wont do a dam thing but superficial maime. Minus like eyes. It wont have stopping power. How long does it take for a person to cover 15.. not long. Shot wont even have that big of a spread at that range. Judges that come in 410 are great. There are rounds that have half slug and behind the slug to steel balls. Those are great rounds. If can be found in 12 guage. What a 12 gauge has going for it is the right rounds will have moderate stopping power. But wont travel through to many indoor walls. Unless using a slug, shot looses power greatly as distance increases. Id never use an 870 as home defense. . To long of a barral. Have to change out stock for a grip. Swinging a 3 1/2 - 4ft shotgun around in a house insnt ideal. And if you miss. It's nothing to close distance in the average room. Seconds. Niw he grabbed tour barrel and pushed it to the side and is on top of you. Now what? Not hypethetical. Look at youtube. Have some charge you from 15- 20 ft. Seconds. Pump on top of everything else i mentioned. 1 maybe two shots. No spread. Low to no penatration if dove shot. Biggest upside again though is chances of killing a neighbor very low. Think to many downsides to a 870 express for home def. Mainly length.
>>697882598
what kind of an asshole doesn't clean their weapon after they use it?
>>697882473
i was just using hogs as an example. i only ever got to hunt hogs when i work down south on the gas wells. sadly where i live (PA) doesnt allow semi auto for hunting
Who open carries here?
>>697882598
>im sure the one you used was a piece of shit
quite likely
all of them were provided by Uncle Sam
>>697882642
gotta learn that trigger discipline, nigga
A post about why guns shouldnt be legal on 4chan.
BAIT!
>>697882771
18 and open carry. Gotta love Louisiana Constitutional Carry
>>697868563
>easy
The 2nd Ammendment
Because i want to replicate my ancestors kebab removal.
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>>697868563
>Robbers arrive at your house
>You see they have guns, which are illegal in your country
>Have nothing to defend yourself with
>Call 999
>"We'll be there right away, sir"
>Those were the last words you ever heard before you took a bullet to the brain
Meanwhile in 'Murica...
>Robbers with guns at your house
>You have been taught how to use a gun
>Kill the robbers in your house with your AR
>>697883027
Nice. 21 here in NC. Not the best state for the second amendment but it's not californistan.
>>697882771
I certainly do up in the mountains cause we got critters here. But I don't give a shit back in town. I'll just bitch slap the niggers as needed.
>>697882642
love it
+1 internets, good sir
Niggers and or goverment
>>697882771
sometimes
I live in Utah County, Utah and open carry most of the time, no one gives a shit
but I usually make use of my CCW when I go to Salt Lake County
they've become a bunch of liberal Bernie dick sucking faggots
>>697883113
>>697882383
Its not a test. Your information goes through state and federal (fbi) criminal databases.
If you lie about anything on that form it's a feliny. They are looking for criminal history. Stuff like domestic abuse, assault charges. Orlando shooter would have been flagged had hus dumbass wife reported him. But instead she just left them and then came out after the fact how abussive he was.
For conceal carry permits thing like minor drug charges even from 10+ years ago can bar you from that permit. It happens. What more can you ask for? They are checking to see if a person has a criminal or domestic, or been deemed insane by the legal system. Everything is digital now...so does take long to run a persons info.
>>697883113
meanwhile in America
> "I'm running to the store hun, want anything?"
> It was thought the victim had withdrawn cash before he was shot from behind by the muggers.
>>697883310
kek that works
>>697883381
I'm just too lazy to have gotten my concealed carry yet. Plus my only pistol is a 92fs which is a bit big for concealing. Luckily I live in an uncucked state so nobody really gives a shit about a pistol openly strapped to my waist.
>>697869191
.223/5.56
High powered
Pick one you insufferable faggot
>>697868563
22lr
>>697883449
If you really want the long story... All American gun people should actually watch this once.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDyx8HA7rOE
>>697883381
I alwayd conceal. Iwb. Open makes you are target. For political nuts who just want to cause you grief. To your a gunmans first target. They have advantage now. You dont know whi they are or doing. But they know you are a threat. Walk up behind. Pop. I doubt it will ever happen to me. Being part of such an event. But just in case. Is exactly why i conceal. I prefer no one knowing. And in some states they are conceal only.
>>697883891
>For political nuts who just want to cause you grief.
that's why I don't open in SLC
but in Utah County enough people open carry that the "first target" thing isn't an issue
>>697882121
not to start a war or anything but taurus quality has gotten pretty good recently. i got a new pt111 g2 last year and its been a very reliable pistol
If anyone wants to see one of the very few stories of a guy that actually did shoot some fuck with his CC gun.... Mike really did it. Sort of a long vid but that's how the shit went down...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg5Gaza6OOw
>>697883883
Ive been through the process... it goes through local and federal (fbi) databases. They look for whatever that staes laws ditacte. Felonies, domestic are usually two of a few that all staes are looking for on your record. What more can they do than plug a person through the legal system? I guess we need to go minirity report and start a pre-cog program.
I dont know everything in great detail but that's gist of it. Background checks work. Its not the checks fault if a dumb bitch doesnt report a domestic abuser flagging him.
I know my states laws. As well as neighboring states. Its my responsibility to know them as a a conceal carry pwrmit holder. Or anyone carring. Classes on this shit is mandatory in every state that tou can get a conceal permit as far as i am aware. Shocker , if you got 20k and sherrif will sign off on it. A full auto tax stamp is like $80 but a legally tradeable full auto weapon is extremely expensive. On top of all the other expenses for owning or wanting to shoot it. Land to do it on. Ammo. Ect ect.
Summer is passing quickly! You can get a kids gun for like $100 and it's a great time to go teach your kids about really shooting guns! The weekend is coming up! ;)
>>697868563
Guns are for pussies.
>>697868563
WTF a woman handling a gun oh hell no!!
>>697884834
Classes aren't required in new Hampshire just go to the police department pay 10 bucks and fill out an application
>>697884942
>Guns are for pussies.
Damn right man!
because niggers don't care if its illegal or not
>>697885061
Concral carry classes arent required their to get your conceal permit? Didnt know that. Not sure i agree with it either. Good shit in that class honestly. From bssic knowledge , laws, scenarios, responsibilty, when you can and cannot use leathal force, morality, legalities. Like if you shoot someone and are 100% of the law. Perps family or an entity can still go after you and kijely will. My instructer used and faced a million dollar case against him. He won it. But it was hell on him. And he was justified within the law. But didnt stop persons family.
>>697885569
A lot of CC classes and info now is going over the specific laws of your specific place. Things vary a lot from state to state and towns and cities. You need to know all that shit before you CC in your area for sure!
>>697875615
Thank you based bro.
OP and total anti gun nuts are cucks. Im sure 99% or more gun owners have never harmed anyone (who didnt deserve it)
But anti gun cucks. Answer me these questions
>Who can own guns. Who shouldnt be able to?
>What guns are dangerous or too much? You say AR15s but you can still kill someone with a hunting rifle or 12 guage. A .22 can kill someone.
>How will you disarm gangs and criminal? Police would be needed. Resulting in large scale shootings
>Why do you hate the idea of a good Citizen owning a number of guns who he or she takes care of and is responsible with?
>Have you gone shooting. Met people with guns. Who weren't criminals...?
>Why do you think gun owners are all dumb hill billies who just shoot anything that moves?
>Do you support taking in large numbers of regugee rapis...i mean muslims?
>>697868563
Because we don't live in a fantasy utopia.
If anyone who is interested in guns wants to know a lot this old guy is very highly respected and he has over 1000 videos now!
https://www.youtube.com/user/hickok45/playlists
Just about everything... Of course you tube also has videos on gun cleaning, assembly..... Just about everything...
>>697869990
No, adult citizens are the active militia. There isn't a join here to be a militia during wartimes, as citizens we are constantly THE militia. Automatic weapons were a concept during the time of the constitutions signing so don't back off this and say "they never meant for it to go this far"
>>697868563
To take down that angry black mob that wants to kill me based on my skin color?
Personally we live in a world where a gun is just the best thing to protect youself with, because we live in a world where a gun is the best thing to attack someone with. I say let people have guns. I have my own but really, guns are cheap. They're something you point at a something and click. Sure there are different levels to shooting but really they are a weapon that anyone with arms and eyes can use fairly easily. I prefer blades because they are more civilized, they are fair, they require skill. Yet if a person ever broke into my house Ide run for my gun simply because that is the world that we live in.
>>697868563
Only the Siths deal in absolutes!>>697868563
Because criminals are by definition people who break the law, and so they'll just get a M16 or whatever illegally anyways. It stops pretty uchc nothing. Even if the criminal didn't want to get guns illegally, they would just get a LEGAL pistol or make their own gun.
>>697886748
yes...
All gun control laws depend on criminals obeying the law....
>>697882773
So they were extreme pieces of shit okay i see
>>697885945
Yep and border states! Instructors at my range are really great. They covered everything i mentioned and more plus cert on the range. They make you shoot 10 rounds at 10 ft. 30 at 15, 10 at 21. Not hard but state qualify law is much closer to cert. They want to test at realistic ranges. Instructors are all nra certified and few are leo doing tbis on the side. Always the carriers responsibility to know the laws where they carry.
If for whatever reason you can't own a real gun these are pretty nice.
You have to hit them in the face, only two shots, it takes about 2 seconds to work... But once hit they are all fucked up!
>>697883109
You mean like the whiskey rebellion?
>>697886542
He's more entertainment but great channel! I been thinking about going to one of his meet and greats. Not to far from them.
I like tnoutdoors for round testing. Wound cavity of a given round, penetration. Ect
If you have never been to one. Go to a gun store this weekend and shop around! They are super interesting places to see even if you don't need to buy a gun.
>>697868563
>You have exactly 10 (ten) seconds to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt why this should be legal.
So that Blacks can defend themselves from cops.
You, liberal faggot, are the racist one. You want to destroy Blacks and you want guns banned so that Whites can't arm Blacks when you start using more direct means of exterminating Blacks.
Pic related: its what you faggots did in Tulsa and you'd've prefered it if they were disarmed.
The Blacks must be armed and you fags must suffer.
>>697868563
We don't have to prove shit.It's called the Bill Of Rights,not the Bill Of Needs or Legal.
You're a world class,grade A faggot.
lol!
Tonight I happened to drop one of my 9mms in the mud. Had to go home and wash it off with a garden hose and then under the sink....
I recommend you get all-weather stainless steel guns when you can :)
>>697888186
This
Faggot liberals(especially the Tans who hate being victims of racism when Blacks can compete) are the real racists. They've had no problem killing off Blacks and subjugating them to keep them from becoming active in the economy. Now liberals want to ban the one thing that Blacks can use to earn their birthright.
Don't give me this shit about how there "are too many Blacks" and that a "reduced population" can integrate. Brazil imported 10X more Blacks and they now make up roughly 7% of Brazilians while Blacks in America make up about 14-20% of Americans. Is their life better? Fuck no. Since they can't fight back, the state treats them like shit which is EXACTLY what liberals in America want for American Blacks.
Blacks must be armed. Either that, or they're dead since liberal faggots are really good at looking the other way and blaming corporations
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