BLM has listed one of their demands as reparations
what is the appropriate amount of money to give desendants of slave? how will the money be distributed?
>>697513400
Reparations for what?
>>697513635
slavery i reckon.
>>697513400
Hahahaha typical niggers. Vague demands because they have no fucking idea what they're doing
>>697513400
>Niggers want free shit
>More news at 11
all lives matter you nigger
>black people want money for their ancestors
>Irish are still poor as shit
>Eating potatoes since 1600
>>697513400
you cant give reparations anymore because these black people never suffered slavery. The reparations should of been done 1865-1900.
But to go along with the thread, give them 2 bottles of grape shasta and a year long coupon book for church's chicken.
>>697513400
what would be apropriate, how about we get a printing press and print them a bunch of confederate money, of course it will be worthless paper but it was the confederates that had slaves, the union did not have slaves and lost many lives in the civil war to free those worthless black bastards
>>697513400
>>697513400
None, that just hinders and enables the people with this give me free stuff because of something that didn't happen to me mindset.
>>697513400
well look,
its quite simple,
we - whites will give niggers $1 for every we killed,
niggers will give us $1 for every white they killed,
shit,
niggers lost all $ rest to be repaid over 666K years
>>697513791
What if you had nothing to do with it?
>>697513400
Check out that killer bokeh though.
>>697513400
Black Lives Fatter
>>697514688
Nobody still living had anything to do with it.
>>697514688
if you are white you live a
privileged life. you live better than 99% of people in this world. your privilege was acquaired on the backs of slaves. so yes you are still benefitting from slavery
>>697513400
That what welfare was for. Niggers always want free shit and the next generation will want more money from slavery.
>if slavery is such a big deal why do blacks try to put a price on it
>>697513400
they already have welfare. fuck niggers.
>>697515198
Its 99.9999997% you fuck boy go check your privilege
>>697513400
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR8ab9KxxfA
niggers are just plain stupid apes, you're not getting any free money you stupid apey nigger
>>697515199
>>697515299
Fucking 99 dubs hivemind
>>697514841
dat toe tho
hamhock
>>697513946
This
Blm is the black kkk.
>>697513400
I will literally give a million bucks to every single black slave I've ever had work for me. Not even kidding every single one. I think every white person alive should too. If everyone on this board counted how many slaves they've had give them a mill that might sort it out. I had none actually funny that.
>>697515450
kek will post it on their dont matter hash
>>697513400
$0.00 is the right amount. None of them lazy fuckers were ever slaves and ever race has been slaves not just fucking niggers. Niggers are just the laziest.
>>697515198
Well the taxes they take out of my check before I even see it ought to be enough.
>>697513400
You mean Obama didn't give it to them like they thought he would?
>>697513400
"Demands"
What are they gonna do if we don't?
Protest?
>>697513400
>reparations
I'm Irish. My ansestors literally and historically went from kings to slaves. My ancestors were used for labor that was too dangerous for the expensive and relatively uncommon nigger slave. My female ancestors were forced to breed cheap new slaves with niggers. The racial epithet "cracker" was used almost exclusively against the Irish who were the overwhelming majority of slaves during that part of history. Do you see Irish people demanding reparations and destroying cities while refusing to contribute to society? No, of fucking course not. These niggers aren't even humans. They're murderously ignorant and just want what other people have worked for. Kill every last nigger who "demands" reparations.
>>697515739
>>1.6%
as if any non-zero percentage of people owning other people is morally justified
>>697513400
The only thing I agree with on those demands is that they need better schools and homes if we educate the niggers and not let them live in shit enviorments maybe they will stop nigging so much
>>697516369
Blacks owned slaves
Blacks sold their people into slavery
Some slaves were white
Where's my reparation?
Okay this is what we need to do. Find out who's gong to do the negotiations with BLM. Meet with BLM's leader. Negotiate how much money we will give each black person for the slaves that the south owned. Leave negotiations.
Here's the key.
Give 3/5 of what we agreed on to 3/5 of the black population. If they're less than 3/5 black they don't count.
>>697515198
You are so full of shit. You need to get off your lazy ass and either get a fucking job or create your own business like everyone else.
Also for your fucking information. these are some of the things blacks get that whites do not:
Black only scholarships and grants. There are none for whites only.
Black only Colleges and universities. There are none white only.
Preferred job priority over more qualified people due to diversity.
can get away with being a racist and calling whites names and attacking whites and getting away with it.
The list goes on.
>>697513400
>>697516369
Its not but neither is blaming an entire race for it either.
>>697516688
I was trust trolling bro i hate niggers. i really wish they would demand plane tickets back to their ancestors homeland
>>697513400
I checked their official pages, and saw no mention of reparations or anything of the sort. Nothing of slavery even.
Its like you're full of shit, and the rest of you are eating it up.
Not supporting BLM here, I heavily dislike them as an organization, but strawmanning just makes you look weak.
>>697516397
That has been done. and it doesn't work. they are too lazy to actually want to improve them selves. they want someone else to do everything for them and give them shit for free.
>>697516688
is that picture supposed to be him?
hair/beard/clothing pictured not from mid 1600s
>>697517204
i saw several stories about. google it
>>697516397
They had the opportunity for education. This education would have supplied a decent wage and the ability to own a better home, paving the way for generations of middle-class working people.
Instead, they chose to "fuk da pole-eese" and embrace their gangster/tribe mentality and fight wars with themselves that they blame on everyone else, especially whites.
Zero sympathy, zero respect. The only people in that situation I feel sorry for are the children, and they insist on raising their kids to idolize leech-like and blameless behavior.
>>697517218
It's obviously not gonna change over night but we need to fix the next generation of black Americans by building better school and neighborhoods
Watch I bet if they educated blacks a little better and gave them nice family homes the crime rate among blacks would fucking plummet
>>697517292
So your a history major in clothing and facial hair of the 1600's? Stupid nigger.
>>697513400
None. They already get welfare, and they should fight to the death in the inner cities for the wealth that exists.
Oh, wait
>>697517505
The problem is they keep destroying them and blaming whites for it. No they need to fix themselves first. And their first step is to stop blaming whites for their own bad judgement and poor ambitions.
>>697517303
I did, found no sources either, just shit like this where people claim its being said with no actual origin point.
>>697513400
Minus what the boarding cost of a slave would have been back in the day, plus the cost of overseers and slave hunters to keep everyone focused on their jobs, I'd say about 20 bucks each is appropriate.
>>697517506
No, but any observant person with half a brain can tell the difference between Victorian and Restitution era paintings/fashion. Each is quite distinctive.
>>697515198
>>697518074
i found plenty. they made their list public today i think
>>697517505
You should do some research. Blacks had it pretty damn good after World War 2, with many black colleges being in the top 20 in the entire United States. They had among the highest graduation rates and were even doing better score-wise than many whites.
But blacks devolved back to being shitheels becuase they are black. blacks gonna black and they cant be changed.
Look at Africa: Home of the oldest known tribes of humankind, and yet they have nothing. No known major advancements beyond the stone wheel. No metal working. To this day, many african tribes still live in Stick and Mud huts, something that ANIMALS can make.
kinda speaks for itself.
>>697516688
It's so much easier for blacks to get into college too... Oh wait. The structure that came after slavery was made to keep blacks poor and away from whites you can argue that it doesn't still go on despite the evidence that it does, but it wasn't a secret back then. That built a foundation that created slums. The fact that the majority of people living below the poverty line are minorities is not a coincidence.
>>697515198
If blacks weren't inferior then we whites would have been the slaves.
I don't owe you shit for being dumb.
>>697513400
About $1.98
>>697517505
This
>>697517781
Until the culture of Black Americans changes to one of inclusion and assimilation, actually joining in with "The Great American Melting Pot", then they are doomed to be outliers and exceptions to healthy societal growth. They will be as they are now.
>>697515198
Implying niggers and sandniggers didn't make slaves of each other either. Nigger detected.
>>697516772
Nice a handful of black people are a part of the problem so don't look any further than that further about the white people who elected them too they are irrelevant it's always black people's fault
>>697518523
/thread
>>697515920
Shoot more people I'd say.
>>697518497
Do some real research. Blacks had every oppurtunity to be on equal terms. Niggers chose to be niggers by blaming all of their own self-created problems on white people.
>>697515198
Nah, Sorry. I'm white.. my ancestors weren't slaver owners. I don't owe anyone shit nor am I benefitting from slavery.
>>697515198
So, are all of us whites from the USA? Faggot?
i'm bored /b
let's do something about those loose monkeys...
>>697517292
This guy is right
>>697517506
You are wrong
>>697518780
implying that whoever did it matters.
The governments were complicit in creating an environment where ownership of humans was legal.
>>697514423
Look at the white on white crime stats bruh similar... And culture doesn't glorify murder of violence. It glorifies survival given the situation put to some that means murder and violence a lot white culture has the same shit. You fucking racist kys
>>697514841
Kekek
>>697515638
No KKK is respected BLM is looked at as a terrorist group
>>697513400
nitrogen
>>697519902
no, they just dont
>>697518497
>>697518497
You are forgetting that it was White Southern Democrats that did everything they could to block civil rights.
Ya'll always point to Johnson signing the Civil Rights act and forget that it was a Republican Majority in the legislature that shamed him into doing it. The Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King was himself a Republican, in the 40's and 50s most Black people were.
Democrats managed to convince Black Americans that Northern Republicans were just a bunch of Racists, by offering handouts to Blacks that they knew Republicans would not support. They suckered Blacks into putting their chains BACK ON and working in the service of Democrats. And for a pittance, no less.
"Black people been voting Democrat for 50 years and you're still poor" - Barkely
The definition of madness is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Seriously, when ya'll gonna wake up?
>>697515739
Let's pretend like it's not the top% that runs shit anyway. Let's also pretend like it wasn't 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of blacks that were slaves
>>697518497
Actually you are wrong it was not the structure you idiot. The had to lower the educational standards thanks to Affirmative Action, so that blacks that had a hard time learning to spell their fucking name could get into college. A country should never lower the standards of education but only raise them. if you or your race are not smart enough then do something else.
>>697515807
What do taxes have to do with anything? Kill yourself retard
>>697515198
That's a deal. let pay those niggers money. so thats like 10.000 a nigger, then they can pay us right back for the money we have given them, healthcare, schooling, victims of there violance. then we send them back to africa. no more gun victim's no more rape victim's stab victim's. i think its a wonderful solution. the best niggers ever came up on.
about tree fiddy
How about we charge all the blacks for the cost of the civil war?
All the families of soldiers who where killed freeing the blacks from slavery can pay repatriations for that.
>>697514688
Don't worry, niggers today have nothing to do with it either, they just want free money
>>697513400
None.
Nothing to distribute.
![7d593ed4791cb5a79d71c0867f904685[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/tadm2ff.jpg "7d593ed4791cb5a79d71c0867f904685[2].jpg")
>>697518497
>The fact that the majority of people living below the poverty line are minorities is not a coincidence.
Except Asians and Middle Easterners both tend to be educated, come from well off families, and typically have everything that is considered white privilege
What you are ignoring are differences in actual cultures and expecting equal numbers all around in spite of this.
>>697516579
It's more about the system that got built over that afterward. It's not like it was a oh shit thanks for all that freeish labor (let's be real they fed, dressed, housed, and groomed them and that is money) slavery is abolished no hard feelings right? And then they were equals. Then they were forced into a shitty system segregated to make sure they stayed poor and since we claim this is a democracy you can't just pin that on the 1.6%
>>697520076
Lets preten this country never had blacks as slaves. Where would it be now?
Now lets pretend this country was all blacks. Where would it be now? wait just look at Africa. there is your answer for that one.
>>697517096
Dude American niggers are the worst thing created in the world but guess what white man created the American nigger that's ya fault. Africa don't want them back! just kill them all and fix your mistake once and for all
>>697520299
It's your fault we dragged you over here and kept you hostage while forcing you to do our work for us and keeping you in suboptimal living conditions and a war broke out over it. pay us.
>>697520786
without slaves, we wouldn't have our pyramids
>>697517781
You know what's a fun idea if you had to live where they do.. you're not fixing the problem with a nice house you need education and also you know murder all the blacks you guys are not doing it right one or two at a time is too slow they reproduce faster than that
>>697515198
If you seriously believe this shit you deserve to be killed by cops. People like you are keeping black people down not white people. No white person is superior to me, they may be to you but not me. How about you quit being a little bitch and a stereotype and go get a fucking job and prove you are just as capable. Oh that's right you can't, so you gotta blame it on white people. fuck you.
>>697515198
>>697515389
How can this be true, if there isn't even 95% of people in this world?
>>697513400
They are accepted to college with lowered standards, given faster job growth, higher job acceptance due to affirmative action. They literally have black privilege once they stop smocking crack and killing each other over petty shit.
Not to mention welfare and food stamps gives them that anyway.
>>697513400
im white my ancestors were slaves too.
I want my money and i need it now
>>697513400
WE WAS KANGS
>>697513400
The appropriate amount of money? None. The distribution? Even split.
>>697521020
>white man created the American nigger
>white man created
>created
I love that everyone by implication thinks that "the white man" is so omnipotent. lmfao the infantile pretense of anon's type of bullshit lives on.
>>697520728
the system that has no legislation that is racially despairing. Except, of course, when niggers and cunts get free positions solely because of their gender/race.
>kill yourself faggot
>>697513400
They should be giving no money because they can make there own. They whine about slavery but they can't do anything themselves so they look to the whites for protection and safety.
>>697514423
This!!!
>>697520011
Dude I never said none of that shit.. I'm a Republican hater or a Democrat lover. Merely pointing out a fact and how ludicrous it is to think that blacks having scholarships geared specifically toward them is a sign that blacks privileges that whites don't.
Seems like some slavery facts are in order here:
We owe them nothing.
Of the 10 to 15 million Africans who were transplanted to the New World, no more than 6 percent—around 400,000—went to the Northern Hemisphere. Almost all of them went to South America.
Blacks were never close to a majority in America, so it's mathematically impossible for most whites to have owned black slaves. At the peak of black slavery in the South, only 6 percent of Southern whites owned slaves. If you include the white people in the North, it means that only 1.4 percent of white Americans owned black slaves at the HEIGHT of slavery.
An estimated 3,000 blacks owned a total of 20,000 black slaves in the year 1860. One study concluded that 28 percent of free blacks owned slaves, which is a far higher percentage than that of free whites who owned slaves.'
American blacks enjoy the highest standard of living of any black population on earth. Their average per capita income is TWENTY to FIFTY times higher than in any of the African countries from where they were displaced. It's true that part of America's wealth was built on black slavery; it is also true that American blacks are enjoying the fruits of that wealth.
0.
By finger; a middle one.
Coming from a descendant of a conscript. (basically a white slave) The blacks can have the same reparations I got.
NOT A FUCKING THING!
>>697513400
Talk about fucking identity politics. Literally this is like Jizya.
>>697513400
Reparations means breathing idiot
>>697520135
The reason blacks have issues spelling is because as slaves they were not allowed education and when it was abolished they weren't allowed the same quality of education that whites have. Do you think if your uneducated and your kid went the same school as they you would learn how to read?
>>697513400
here's a reality check
all tribes have been dominated/expelled by another at some point, so once again- nogs are not special little shitflakes.
here's another: the great tribes of the world:
were not equal
are not equal
will never be equal
except under a man-made construct like "the law"--- and even within the construct alone there will be some inevitable mistakes. Go fucking make your own way, infantile whining non self-respecting morons. until you rid yourselves of your lefty co-opting overseers who live in wealthy, safe neighborhoods FAAAR FROM YOU, you'll never be shit.
>>697521376
based anon speaks truth
id probably say it differently in public though
>>697520786
LOL you think Africa is a country you're as dumb as the niggers in your country
>>697517096
that should be it. tell them if they want reparations we will give them $10K each and a plane ticket to kenya. you dont get one without the other. it would get rid of all the trash quick
>>697522550
he never said that you brainless retard.
>>697522289
You don't let black folk to breath in America? Holy shit you are one racist 3rd world country.
Seeing how my family did not immigrate to the U.S.A until 1905-1922 (well after slavery was abolished), they can go fuck themselves. That ship left the dock in the 1860's.
>>697521810
Nope. Niggers were the slaves. Nubians were farther south. Egyptians (sand niggers) whipped the Nubians like nigger step chiles
>>697514320
You must not be american or just retarded. The union had slaves too. Civil war was not about freeing slaves. The only reason slaves even mattered was because they were an important resource to the southern states. It was about economics/money as is most wars. We're taught civil war = moral war in grade school cuz it is easier to take in for kids and btards. Emancipation proclamation only frees slaves in southern states that fail to comply to orders of the federal gov. It actually doesnt address slaves in the north.
>>697514320
You're retarded. The Union actually still had slaves for several years after the war ended. The Emancipation Proclamation strictly ended slavery for Confederate states. Not a nigger, and I don't believe in reparations regardless, but still, learn your fucking history.
>>697519408
White on white murder is 84%
>>697513400
$0, if they want reparations they can get it off the niggers who captured and sold their ancestors
>>697520641
What you're looking at is well of Asians that came to this country Asians are pretty broke to but you are right their lighter skin does give them a bit of a pass in your eyes
>>697513400
>what is the appropriate amount of money to give desendants of slave? how
Objectively speaking, it'd have to be a pretty hefty sum in order to level the playing field, considering the statistics on poverty and income distribution.
I can state this objectively as a non-american having no skin in the game myself. It's not me who'd have to pay for the reparitions.
Of course, it's never gonna happen, but stop pretending you're all righteous in refusing to consider this demand. You're just mad because you'd be among those who'd have to pay.
>>697522099
So basically. 1 white person out of 100 owned blacks slaves.
Yeah fuck them, whites don't owe them shit. No reason for 99 people to pay a penance for 1 persons choice, and a legal choice at that at the time.
Fuck reparations..blacks need to collect it from other blacks. The ones that was selling their own people back in Africa....where there is still slavery today. Yet blacks say nothing about it. No surprise.
>>697516053
Bullshit. I live in Ireland and the 'Irish slaves' shite you Americans come out with is a fucking myth.
Also, you weren't born in Ireland, you aren't irish, get fucked plastic Paddy.
>>697513791
I'm Korean and no one in my family touched American soil til the 80's
Niggers aren't getting of my family's money
>>697517204
https://policy.m4bl.org/
>>697515198
10.7 million slaves were brought to the Americas, not America, the AMERCAS.
4 million of them went to Brazil. Where's there privilege? You'd think Brazil or Portugal would still be reaping those sweet slavery benefits.
>>697513400
>what is the appropriate amount of money to give desendants of slave?
about that much
>>697520641
Most Asian families that came here during the 70s and 80s were not educated and made their money by working their asses off to send their kids to college.
It wasn't until the second generation Asian-Americans in the 90s-00s that Asians really started getting out of the poverty line
>>697513400
Why should black people today be given money for the suffering of their ancestors?
Why should white people today give them this money? They weren't around then.
The idea of reparations is just so dumb.
Pic unrelated. I just think it is really funny
>>697521856
They had power over them didn't they? They owned them didn't they? They gave them freedom didn't they?
But you're probably missing one too many chromosomes to understand the difference
>>697523591
You could fit quite a few $100 bills in there...
>>697520140
blacks overwhelmingly are over represented in collecting from welfare programs (funded by people actually working)
>>697521534
>Given faster job growth
Where are you getting your statistics to prove that?
>>697523698
>working their asses off
Life was easier back then. My grandparents bought 2 apartments and sent my mother to college with their income from working in a New York bakery. Not owners, not managers, bakers.
>>697520140
It's what pays your welfare you stupid nigger
>>697523312
It's sad that you're that ignorant, that communists have so thoroughly destroyed Ireland, its history and its education that you would say things like that. Unfortunately history doesn't support the view you've been indoctrinated to "believe".
Also, I was born in Ireland and my parents came to Canada. So wrong again, Shlomo.
>>697521931
You're right let's not try to balance out the inequalities just kill them! Police got it right LOL!
>>697523767
meh, they've earned it. actually doing something instead of just . i'll give them that
>>697513837
This
It's as unfocused as that occupy Wall Street bullshit.
It's just a tantrum that everyone refuses to stop
>>697518497
Stop. Many of you actively make your lives worse. Petty crime, drug abuse, and violence are common among the black youth as well. Moreover, many choose to ignore their educations in favor of such activities. Read "The Other Wes Moore." It's written by a black man, about his own life and that of another black man. Explains this shit pretty damn well.
>>697524247
>just bitching
>>697513400
-$50,000,000,000,000.00 sounds about right. They can start paying as soon as possible. Niggers are more trouble than they were worth.
>>697524316
shit. wrong key
*just bitching
We Irish were slaves, treated like shit, tortured, sold, bought, murdered, and you don't see us crying for reparations from anybody.
>>697522660
Well why is he comparing a continent to a country? There are plenty of thriving countries in Africa dipshit!
>>697522787
You took their jobs!
>>697519396
You also need to stop. African governments now, the ones with niggers in power, do nothing to stop warlords from enslaving other niggers, yet nobody's out there protesting the conditions of those people. Honestly, fix your own problems, since that is entirely doable, in all honesty, actually work together, both with each other and other races, and get an education. Then, go work on protesting their conditions, so you actually make a positive difference in the world, instead of being societal cancer.
If niggers want reparations from me for slavery, than I feel like I should get a slave.
>>697522844
Truth
>>697519822
By some, maybe. I see both as complete scum that should be wiped out.
>>697524339
I don't buy that.
Slavery was a very profitable business. Niggers were valued high enough for white people to fight and die, in a war for the right to enslave them.
>>697523468
that is the point. Many citizens who exist in the states now did not have family in the states during slavery. Those who did owns slaves chances are have next to no kin living in the states or living. Niggers just want money for nothing. A big ebt payout if you will
>>697524062
I don't collect welfare faggot I'm not black! I collect unemployment insurance
>>697513791
None of them were slaves their parents and their grandparents weren't slaves hell their great grandparents weren't slaves so the correct amount owed is......nothing. nothing.
>>697513400
How much is a 1-way to Syria?
I will sponsor 1 boon to go and repopulate Syria.
>>697513400
nigger, slavery was abolished in 1833 in 1861 slavery of WHITE people was abolished in Russia, and taking Russia as a moral equivalent is, well you know, Russia. So should we work on slavery as a whole as a problem or just the lazy black people?
>>697513400
I'd pay about tree fiddy.
>reparations
silly blacks, money won't make you successful
you got bought off in the (USA) civil rights movement with "free" welfare money
you been getting free money for 50 years, and you're still mostly poor
you don't yet understand, that 'more free money' is the last thing you need
>>697513791
>slavery i reckon.
yea but let's call it "guaranteed jobs" ;)
>>697524279
They are products of their environment and are doing what they know due to lack of quality education also I'm not black I just like defending them because I'm a faggot
>>697523714
>>697513400
1 dollar for every day they have been a slave.
How about we reinstate slavery so that they actually have something to complain about? Meanwhile my yard gets cut and food gets cooked.
>>697522393
Many slaves were given educations by their masters. Sorry you forgot that bit, also, it doesn't excuse illiteracy 150 years later, retard. Stop, since they were still taught spelling, and other practical subjects in those schools, no matter how shit they were, standards did still exist. They also have been in mixed schools for just over two full generations, but adding in the early age of parenthood in black communities, closer to 3 generations. So, stop making excuses for niggers being too lazy or too stupid to want to learn this shit. It doesn't actually work anymore.
>>697524950
Do you even know capitalism? Exploitation of labor bitch doing past those niggers shit.. their ancestors should have asked for a raise LOL
>>697524950
The industrial revolution made niggers obsolete. The way they are today is the same wah they were after immediately after they were freed. 10% employed members of the work force and 90% murderous, theiving, primates.
>>697513400
but will blacks pay reparations for all the problems they've created? the money families lost because houses lose values when nignogs move in in the neighborhood? the infinite amount of stolen shit? the turning whole neighborhoods to dangerous war zones between gangs? the money spent having to deal with black criminals? The massive amount of money spent on welfare just to feed these useless dregs of society?
>>697513400
Do Natives get reparations for stolen land? How about Mexicans for the same reasons? Why is it that niggers are the only ones to bitch and moan?
>>697524104
Google 'irish slave myth'
Then kys you lying faggot
>>697525833
Natives do get reparations from the US government.
>>697525641
You're so right education is not something that comes from schools or parents... It's something that the lizard people infect into the worthy ones
>>697525641
I'm sure the 3 niggers that got some kind of education as slaves received the same quality as the whites did
>>697525557
Who goes shopping at 02:29?
>>697513400
>>697526033
and they can legally grow their own fucking weed. FUCK YOU AMERICA LEGALIZE IT YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE FUCKING CUNT
autism complete
While slavery was the centerpiece the issue surrounding the civil war was actually states rights. The confederate states wanted to preserve their indedendence from the union states, whose growing industrial might threatened to push out the southern farming communitys voting power. This resulted in a bunch of peasants who couldn't give two fucks about the slaves being free (due mainly to them being the mexicans of the era, cheap effective labor stealing good peoples jobs because they don't need to be paid as much)
A lot of historians actually believe that a big reason segregation and Jim Crow laws came about was because after the civil war the Confederacy were painted as marauding monsters, bent on domination and destruction, rather than people who just wanted their votes to matter, and their children thusly blamed blacks for the bitter disgrace their parents faced.
The civil war is my favorite war, the first truly "Modern" war, won which the forefathers of all modern weapons, the one from the mines, machine guns , the air-force, and hell even battleships, came to life for the first time ever.
I just find it so sad that the true history of it is so twisted.
>>697525778
I am sorry, I found your post completely unintelligible.
>>697526033
Well, my point stands, niggers seem to be the loudest of the bunch, the ones that bitch and moan about injustices done to their ancestors, even though they are most certainly not the only ones.
A condition of reparations should be deportation back to Africa. If you want renumeration then you should be returned to your ancestral homeland where you can be raped by a witchdoctor or attacked by machete wielding child soldiers.
>>697513400
Lol shit. Now you know what we're facing in Australia.
>inb4 "you invaded their country and committed genocide
Like amerifats didn't do that to the native Americans?1608
>>697526370
Hey two of this were me
>>697526418
>I just find it so sad that the true history of it is so twisted.
No way, the U.S. educational system is biased?
>>697525790
Love those statistics. I am sure they are totally accurate.
Not really. They could have kept to operate the machinery.
>>697524533
Name one. Most of northern Africa is in some state of civil unrest, anarchy, or even war, central Africa still is stuck in the midst of economic recessions for the most part, as well as civil wars, epidemics, and possibly both simultaneously. The slave trade thrives thanks to piracy on the coasts, as well as mining operations overseen by the various warlords there. Southern Africa has been shitty ever since white people left, especially the nation of South Africa, a lack of education is prevalent in the region, rape rates are some of the highest in the world, as are rates of most other forms of violence, and most of the countries live in situations which would merit the 'homeless' label in a developed nation. Not to mention the issues with terrorism plaguing the western side of Africa, ISIS in the north, and the backwards thinking of the people. In the late 80's, South Africa was basically in Utopian conditions, so long as you were white. Now it's just shitty for everyone. In 2014, white people were banned from owning land in Zimbabwe. This year, they requested over $1 billion in foreign aid, due to both an economic collapse following a white exodus, and a massive drought that's fucked up a good portion of the continent. So, my point stands; what countries in Africa would you call "thriving?"
>>697519822
B A I T
>>697526484
I'm a faggot. Don't give those niggers shit! Their ancestors should have asked for a raise
>>697513400
I figure the government has given more than enough reparations to black people through the welfare system.
>>697526926
So bite bitch get triggered isn't what this thread is here for?
>>697524950
Dipshit, slavery is an excuse, that was brought up as a moralizing tactic in 1863, when the war had been going on for two years already. The war was fought over a difference in belief on the influence of government; while the south espoused state rights over the central government, the north called for a strong central government, whose laws overrode those of the states.
>>697513400
Fuck this, most advocates of reparation payments want the money spent on public programs, i.e. Directed to their non-profits. NOT to payments for individual descendents of slaves.
>>697513400
shitty n. eat food, wear clothes, own electronics that were produced by slaves TODAY and give a shit, so they deserve shit
>>697527061
No #whitelivesdontmattertoo
>>697517054
Holy shit they dressed like pimps back then too?
>>697522787
Even people around during slavery aren't complicit. Slaves were extraordinarily expensive and could only be purchased by the wealthy elite. A minority of a minority of people have a family member that owned a slave. Even then, you are a sack of shit if you try to pass the sins of a historical tragedy onto people multiple generations removed who had nothing to do with it.
>>697527293
Why not pay reparations to programs for the poor? Generalizing poverty as innate of those who are merely born black is ignorant.
>>697520140
I pay taxes to keep the local niggers fed. Any more questions?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SJNVb0GnPI
>>697526177
So you mean the ones taught to read, so they could read to their masters' children, and teach the white children to read, would have been poorly educated in English literacy? Then why isn't there a massive amount of illiterate whites in the slave-owning areas as well? That's a fascinating theory, since, while I'll admit that the education of slaves wasn't the norm, it wasn't exactly an anomaly either.
>>697527601
Yes do you get to specify where your money goes what if it helps whites instead? Or even worse the old people!
>>697527043
Okay?
>>697513400
If any nigger that was a slave pre-1865 will come forward, I will personally give them $10,000.00.
>>697526418
Going to disagree with this statement. The first 'modern war' in the gunpowder eras of warfare was the 30 years war, since it established most of the tactics regarding modern theories about combined arms in use today. Gustavus Adolphus isn't called the father of modern warfare for no reason.
>>697527786
This faggot doesn't comprehend sarcasm someone needs to get their chromosomes in order
>>697527245
The only reason they argued state rights over central government was because of slavery.
It was all they had.
>>697513400
$1 million for each person who actually was enslaved. $50 TV watched relatives. Sorry, but the lawyer fees are a bitch.
$0.0000000000000000 divided equally among all nignos
>>697526033
What reparations? Shitty, virtually unworkable land, a nearly complete lack of support, and the highest rates of alcoholism and general shittiness of life hardly count as reparations. I don't believe in reparations for niggers, since they now cause most of their own problems, but in the case of the Native Americans, we actually fucked them over, dumped them neck deep in shit creek, and not only did we not give them a shovel, we refused them to the ones nearby who asked for them.
>>697526690
Rather than biased, it's so fucking simplified. So many if the teachers simply gloss through parts of history it's not even funny. The result is that the teach actually know a fair amount, but the time constraints force them to snip it down to a short seminar.
An example:
"The civil war, one of the the most important wars ever fought by americans, was a ling and bloody war claiming more than 500,000 lives, the central issue of the civil war was about states rights, one of which was the right to choice regarding slavery."
Result:
"The Civil war..*....was...*..about...*..slavery.
-*ammended for time constraints
>>697513400
I'm conflicted. I'm opposed to BLM and believe that the whites of today shouldn't shouldn't pay for something that ended 200 years ago.
On the other hand I'm half-nigger and would very much like money for nothing.
>>697513400
It seems like you guys are putting slavery in their mouths to shine light off Jim crow and more recent stuff.
Reparations for slavery? Lincoln already did that with the freedmens bureau but then the kkk killed them all so,
There's already enough reparations rn the only thing we should do is ban ghetto music and movies that incite violence cause most young blacks want to pretend they lived their life as NWA.
And don't tell me no cause in places where whites listen to Hank Williams III etc they do regularly commit crimes than other places eg texas
>>697513400
>Fixed that for you, OP.
>You're welcome.
>Check'd 'em.
>>697522967
So whites relatively kill more blacks than blacks kill whites?
>>697518901
if you live in the US then you do still benefit. however, the more dramatic economic effects are for blacks. if someone is born in a poor area with poor schools that person is much more likely to end up poor. this obviously affects people of all races but blacks and native americans are affected the most. not to mention all the institutional inadvertent and sometimes purposeful racism that still exists. (for example, whites and blacks use drugs at very similar rates, but blacks are arrested and jailed for drugs much more often. this is caused by certain laws, policing methods, and teh justice system. much of it is inadvertent, but it does exist.)
>>697526418
Lincoln did offer them to keep their slaves multi times to remain in the union but they wanted to fight, they had all the gooks from west point too but didn't utilize their infrastructure (trains etc) quite as effectively as Lincoln did.
Yeah Lincoln implemented the slaves rights etc as a Fuck you to the south.
That's why movies like 'Birth of a Nation' never existed
funny story about the whole slavery thing slaves were bought from tribes in Africa who captured them from wars , terratory disputes , and other things
>>697529144
The offending rate for blacks was almost 8 times higher than whites, and the victim rate 6 times higher. Most homicides were intraracial, with 84% of white victims killed by whites, and 93% of black victims killed by blacks.
>>697526418
> due mainly to them being the mexicans of the era, cheap effective labor stealing good peoples jobs because they don't need to be paid as much
> cheap effective labor stealing good peoples jobs because they don't need to be paid as much
> don't need to be paid as much
I was fairly understanding of your argument on the whole but then, you just had to go and ruin it, didn't you? The slaves didn't get paid - that's the whole fucking POINT of slavery: not cheap labour but FREE labour.
Also, as a UK citizen where this 'immigrants-stealing-our-jobs' topic has been an ongoing argument for years now due to the freedom of movement within the EU, I really doubt that they're 'stealing good peoples jobs'. Maybe there's a reason why they are 'stealing' so-called 'good peoples' jobs. A company would much rather hire a native than a foreigner for the most practical of reasons: communication, VISA requirements (the ones outside the EU at the very least or those within the EU employing those from without) etc. I have worked many an entry-level position from stacking shelves at supermarkets to flipping burgers in fast-food chains and everywhere I see predominantly brown faces. It is not difficult to get these jobs. That is why they are generally looked down upon. The problem is we look down upon them ourselves. Do you think these companies want to sponsor an immigrant coming from outside the EU? Do you think they would even prefer to hire one from within knowing that their command of English will be poorer than a native's (although your post suggests otherwise)? And believe me, one's command of English is quite important when it comes to selling burgers...The problem is we, as natives, do not want these jobs! We look down upon them; we don't believe them to be worthy of us; and this was revealed in a UK documentary a couple of years ago when covering a range of jobseekers supposedly desperate lay looking for jobs but not desperate enough to do whatever it took...[1]
>>697516772
Perfection.
>>697513400
Slaves were owned by wealthy land owners who are all dead. Sorry but the statute of limitations is over for worthless pieces of shit. Besides Most of the citizens of the U.S. had nothing to do with the cotton pickers families. Just because Leonardo DiCaprio played a slave owner doesn't mean all white men are.
>>697528295
Not true at all. At the time of the war, New England was the only region really pushing toward liberation of the slaves. It was more issues regarding industrialization and labor laws for free people, as well as taxation by the central government. Southern states also effectively contested the constitution they had signed, declaring that their laws overrode national law, despite the constitution declaring otherwise.
Every day I see newfags eating up bait like breakfast.
>>697513791
slavery was paid for in the blood of hundreds of thousands of white men between 1861 and 1865.You cannot demand payment for social injustice since no one person is at fault.
>>697513400
Zero dollars. They can all get 1 bullet to the brain
>>697528114
I suppose from a Tactical standpoint it was the first, but undeniably the civil war was the fire that birth a MASSIVE amount of predecessors for modern weapons.
Hell, even Germanys Keiser (*? spelling unsure) saw the development of american weapons and immediately followed after. In fact German sub-machine guns were based around the original prototype of the worlds first hand held machinegun designed by an american during the civil war.
>>697529914
i just laugh
>>697529818
You seem a lot more informed than me.
All seems plausible, I guess.
ylyl
they seem to forget that is was also the white man that freed their asses also. If not for the Civil War they might very well still be slaves
>>697530021
my bullets are over a dollar a piece (.45-70). I need a cheeper gun
>>697515198
>whites are more privileged than 99% of the world
>35% of the world is more privileged than the other 99%
S T E L L A R
>>697523468
I believe it would come from the government i.e. a slight tax hike
>>697514169
A black /b/tard, I agree that this should would be the best way to repay us. If you wanna go above and beyond, give us coupons for KFC instead.
>>697530266
If they're alive after 1 bullet, don't waste any more precious bullets. Let them live as mentally disabled vegetables
>>697513400
just charge white people who go to college more, descendants go for free, if they don't want to go just give them that amount in the mail
problem solved next
>>697528568
4 big issues friend.
1)Natives have the right to choose the land they wanted as reparations (so long as government owned it, since otherwise I'd violate the constitution)
2)Lack of support is due to most Native tribes demanding sovereignty. Those groups are effectively their own sub countries, so unless they ask for help we can't legally give it to them, but if they ask for help, we'd own them.
3
just board them all back on a boat and send them back to their native countries and then they can apply for green cards to get back.
>>697516688
Double dubs are true
I looked up his name to confirm it
>>697518497
OMFG. How fucking pozzed has 4chan become? I understand now why people at 8ch call this place 4cuck.
>>697528568
Fucked my own post>>697530716
3) Alchoholism is believe to be because they slowly lost their tolerance to it over time afterigrating from asian, as native americans didnt seem to possess any forms of alchol when settlers came, and they quickly developed a dependency due to a lack of immunity.
4)Mative American communities are fucking weird. Not customs wise, but they are racist as hell (probably a reason for that) and just generally treat others shitty if they dont obey customs hard enough.
They're like drunken amish people.
You mean to tell me that all these years of handing out food stamps and welfare hasn't counted as reparations? Why the hell were we doing it then? No no, someone needs to tell these people that they already been paid.
>>697513400
how much is a one way ticket back to oogey-boogey bone through your nose africa?
>>697517505
>Watch I bet if they educated blacks a little better and gave them nice family homes the crime rate among blacks would fucking plummet
You can't educate people who don't want to be educated.
When the kids get to school the parents have already influenced them deeply.
Unless you take a black kid out of the ghetto and put him in a school where kids take shit seriously, nothing gonna change.
>>697515198
How about you get a heartfelt apology and a return ticket to Africa?
>>697530716
>>697531484
actually, at least in Canada, when the Natives were asking for land the government more often than not said "no, try again" when they picked land that they could actually use. So they were given the "option" to pick land, but more often than not the government was actually saying "keep guessing till you guess what we picked out for you"
>>697515198
That means 99% of the world can cry more
>>697513400
Send them back to Africa so they can be in their true homeland, see how much they like it.
>>697513400
Give them exactly what they're worth, fuck all.
>>697531513
This
>>697513400
fuck these filthy chimps.
they've lived off of our welfare money long enough.
nothing would make me happier to see these scumbag criminal niggers being starved out of existence.
>>697515739
Yeah, in fact the niggers should be paying whites for lost productivity due to being lazy slaves
>>697529559
>>697529559
[2]...to get one.
Riddle me that, my son. And before you do so, don't come back at me with your meaningless 'Ah, but you yuropeens bend over backwards for the immigrants' rhetoric cos that shit just ain't gonna fly.
For what it's worth, I'm completely against Black Lives Matter as I see it as a completely segregating movement after all that the Civil Rights fighters did to get rid of that segregation. I find it sickening that the media are giving it so much credit - and much more so, airtime - even here in the UK when it is so obvious the damaging effects it could have and already is having on modern-day society. Already, we are seeing a return to the 'them-and-us' mentality, especially after the recent problems that have been going on in the southern states. I know you guys are not known for being the most intelligent bunch, but I trust you to know the potential repercussions of hate crime and to act accordingly, especially so if you are incumbent of such a position as 'police officer' in the local community. It saddens me to see that the media fails to recognise that all the BLM is fostering instead of black pride is black hate and we are slowly returning to the pre-civil rights era with the increasingly 'ghetto' mentality taken up by certain communities. It also saddens me to see that the likes of Michelle Obama have been given a platform to expose their segregating views. I wish Obama would man the fuck up in regards to her and tell her to shut her trap because it could have, and indeed is having, repercussions on the wider community.
I also find it ludicrous that reparations can be made for something that was suffered not by you, nor by your parents, but someone you were related to generations ago. Also, correct me if I'm wrong but if slavery in the US was anything like it was anywhere else in the world, not only the blacks were subjugated and subjected to slavery like this. Many people of other creeds and colours were subjugated...
>>697513400
nothing it will be distributed by them picking my cotton
give them an option, deportation or shut you damn mouth about what you think is owed to you and this damn racist shit. Its racist if we call them a name but its not racist for them to call a white person a name. WTF!!!!
>>697532297
>>697513400
>>697529559
I meant "cheap" as in not a very high cost-benefit index.
Slaves were "cheap" not "free" they still cost money to feed, clothe, equipt, buy, and raise/train.
The real difference betweeb then and now is that mexicans are at least given the right to choose where to spend the money.
No such thing as a free meal my friend.
Also i was being a bit sarcastic, melodramatic, and ironic with the whole "good peoples jobs" thing.
In reality, it mearly created a difficult work climate, where competition didn't exist because it couldn't stand against a far cheaper force.
These "good people", would have led an easier life as a farm hand, if not for slavery driving down the value of skilled farm hands much the same way modernized factorys drive down the value of their workers, but instead were forced to live a more difficult life maintaining their own homesteads.
>>697530108
Fair enough, but still, the phrase "birth of modern warfare" and other similar phrases tend to be established from 1618 to 1648, or most specifically, from 1630 to 1648, since that's when Sweden, the nation that innovated warfare more than anyone since Sun Tzu, entered the war. Still, from the point of weaponry, it is fairly undeniable that the Civil War was hugely important in the development of warfare. Also, it's spelled Kaiser. It's Latin derived, thus sharing it's pronunciation with the Latin word for emperor, "Caeser."
>>697519408
Nigger detected
CLEARLY THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND OBAMA HAVE CAUSED THE BIGGEST RACIAL GAP EVER.
lIVING IT REALL YALL MOTHERFUCKERS ARE GETTING PLAYED BY A WHITE BITCH
WHAT DOES SHE KNOWS ABOUT BLACK STRUGGLE, WELL THE WHITE SHE DEVIL CREATED THAT STRUGGLE .
>>697532297
I lol'd
>>697532969
See, the shit popped up both ways on my auto correct and I've grown so dependant on the fucking thing i sometimes forget basic words.
Shits fucked man. Imma hit 30 and not be able to spell cadaver.
>>697519408
why is it that more whites are killed by cops than blacks? That theory of yours is a little fucked
>>697533591
Whites make up about 6 times as many americans as blacks.
Statistically, it's fucking impossible for blacks to be getting killed more often than whites, just based off our sheer fucking numbers.
It's all in proportions, see
>>697533759
Further, Native Americans are the demographic killed least often by police, but when you adjust for population, slightly more indians are killed yearly than black people
>>697513400
should be easy enough, we take a slaves lifetime earnings and split that amount amongst his 500 descendants
>>697520728
Jim Crow laws really only affected those in the south beyond being a minor inconvenience. And lets face it, the only reason people in the sout treated blacjs so shitty was because the north treated them as a bunch of shitty racist monsters after the war, despite most not giving 2 fucks about slavery, and they decided to take it out on the blacks since they knew they couldn't beat the north, and their shitty treatment was directly related to them.
Good America good.
Burn you selves you centred shits. I hope your country gets reduced to fucking wasteland.
>>697531484
>>697530716
The US often backed out of such deals, however. Remember the Black Hills, where Mount Rushmore is carved? That was a Reservation, that the Natives claimed since it was sacred to them. Then somebody found gold there, and the US relocated them. Not the only situation of this happening either, but a highly notable one. Can't disagree on the alcoholism, but we don't help it when we establish towns for the sole purpose of selling the Native Americans cheap liquor. Also can't deny the racism, but unlike most people, their hatred has reason. They were fucked over time and time again. They'd have every reason to be distrustful and shitty to others. Hell, even during civil rights, they were shat on, being left out of the movement since Native American rights actually would have lost them support. The sovereignty, however, is not entirely accurate. They are sub-sovereign nations,in effect, but they still technically have the ability to, say, attend schools outside of a reservation. Basically, they get a few rights that they don't have to ask for that we give them, and they somewhat support us, kind of like an alcoholic, fairly useless Canada supporting Britain.
>>697533759
ok you got me there, i cant deny that fact, but the amount of blacks involved in criminal behavior is higher than that of whites
>>697513400
well the only thing the americans ever did to them was take them away from their country. so they should send them back.
>>697513400
40% off coupons at kfc
>>697513400
650,000 people died in the civil war and the South was economically evicerated.
We've already paid in blood and treasure.
>>697534428
I'm not gonna denie we treated natives kinda shitty, but as it is nithing goods gonna come from continued shittyness. We fucked off and hurt them, BAD, but there is only so mucb we can do while still maintaining both our pride, and our self interest. Honestly, I'm damn amazed we've even given as much as we have.
Could be worse though. We could still be being dicks to our natives like Canada is.
>>697532669
Trust me, many of us do. Unfortunately, schools and other public systems in the US bring up a complete lack of foresight in people. Example: Not sure if you're familiar with the Black Panther Party, but basically, their demand was a separate nation which owed no obligation to the US, with a landmass of about 40 acres per nigger in the US. They wanted to leech our resources, giving nothing in return, be exempt from military duty if called for it, to be able to ban white people from their country while passing freely to and from the US, and other such shit. Yet I'm the villain and the racist when, back in HS, I pointed out that they were advocating exceptional racism, and, if their demands were met, they'd be nothing more than parasites. The US education system, and the society in general, is fucking retarded and breeds blindness in people, so blame that, not the people themselves
>>697524457
No, instead you just bombed a number of civilian targets and shot a bunch of British soldiers in a terrorist insurgency
>>697513400
" Demands"Hahah.. Or what?
>>697519396
exept the British monarch banned the practice of slavery and slave trading in the 1400, africans STILL practice slavery and the middle east STILL practices slavery so go fuck your shitty face, also white people were also slaves
>>697534638
Oh fuck yeah. Nigs gonna nig. Nothing we can do about that.
#pigs>nigs
They already live off the govt anyways haha
>>697533539
It's OK, man. Unless you're writing papers on WWI, or the history of Germany in its modern form (starting with its establishment in the mid 1800's), you're not going to need it. Also, until this point, I don't think I've ever needed to spell Cadaver. Still, read a bit. Everything you do without autocorrect helps.
>>697535314
My ass they did. The Brits RAN the slave trade till 1820s when the US stopped needing to buy.
>>697518949
it seems as though you're implying that slavery was a thing from the USA. lol
>>697535022
Every nation and/or ethnic group has been abused by or abuses another.
See: English v Irish
English v Indians
Russians v Slavs
Slavs v Romanians
Japanese v Korean
Japanese v China
and so on. Fuck - India has 5,000 castes. Not saying it's right, but this problem is hardly exclusive to America.
Why should white guys be made to take responsibility for only the bad things , I'll apologise for slavery when I get credit for the theory of relativity, the telephone and the Internet
>>697516053
>Aye we wuz kangs and shit
>>697534379
Meh, no nation's perfect, and if you're espousing that yours is, or superior in every way, since you're not stuck with this issue to deal with and never had to deal with it, you're retarded.
>>697532904
Jesus Christ, I just don't have words for you if you believe that slaves were 'cheap' because they had to be trained, clothed and fed...I guess technically, you were right, but these people were subjugated, taken from their homeland and forced unwillingly into a life of labour. If we take the popular rhetoric at the time, these beings were not humans, but animals, and like animals, they had to be fed, trained and generally kept healthy. Now, would you say that you 'pay' animals to work? No, maintain them perhaps but 'pay'? No way. The difference between slavery and 'cheap labour' is a question of choice and it is a pretty simple distinction to make if I may say so myself.
I have family in south-east Asia that have servants. They feed them, clothe them and train them but at the end of the day, they still 'pay' them and they are still there out of their own volition.
And in response to your statement about these 'good people', much in the vein of your 'laissez-faire' attitude towards slavery, I would say that it is what it is. If there is a workforce coming in, prepared to work more for less, it is economically simply more logical to hire them than the other. I would say that us Westerners should look to the poorer countries and perhaps take a leaf out of these south-east Asian maids' notebook. They have to carry out their responsibilities 24 hours/day, all for a pittance and, whilst not ecstatic, are quite happy doing so. Why can't we do the same if we really want a job? Nobody is entitled to a job just because of the country in which they were born. If that were the case, our respective economies would be fucked.
>>697535337
cops cant help it if a nig is doing criminal acts, i know plenty of blacks who are good citizens and dont give two shits about the other blacks always bitchen about how they are mistreated and shit, well stop being a fucking nig you asshole!
>>697513791
Then they should pay us the transportation and rent that allowed them to stay here.
They were allowed to go back home but they stayed.
