This gender shit has to stop!!!
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Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
This gender shit has to stop!!!
>>697488365
They look happy to me
What's your problem?
I'm confused as hell, what is that?
>>697488365
today a saw a man in the street that looked like this but 30 years older.... how and why?
>>697488365
I take it you have a problem with the perfectly normal transgender woman?
>>697488561
>perfectly normal transgender
you misspelled "mental illness"
>>697488548
He lost a bunch of weight. I lost 150 lbs and had similar issues before surgery. That's the battle of losing weight people forget. After you fixed your fat ass you're left with a destroyed body. I used it as inspiration to not get that way again.
>>697488457
FUCK THT!!!!!
Burn it with fire!!!!
>>697488678
That's the happiest mentally ill person I've ever seen
You have never met a trans person before have you?
>>697488748
i'm glad you got all that skin back on its place.
anyway, the one I saw had real bulky tits, like he decided to go trans at the age of 60
he completely obliterated my constant rush of august testosterone, I didn't even fapped today
>>697489014
met a few, and they hate themselves.
I find her very attractive you guys are insensitive pricks need to stop the transphobia.
>>697489014
the ones i know all cut them selves.
sure sign of a clear head
>>697488457
It's fine if they're happy but they always push their uneducated and retarded views on everybody else. All fags are the same attention seeking low iq idiots
>>697488457
They look ill to me. When I was in middle school, we had to watch a video for health class. It was about some dumb 110lb cunt who wouldn't eat because she thought she was fat. The take away lesson was that she was mentally ill because she looked in the mirror and saw a version of herself that was not real. When a man looks into the mirror and sees a woman staring back, he is mentally ill.
>>697489213
its a cultural thing, wait 20 years and they'll be all normies.
>>697489014
I have they are mentally confused and childish. They hate women with a passion yet try there very hardest to be as feminite as possible, makes sense doesnt it?
>>697489014
A psycopath is perfectly happy murdering people... That doesnt it make it right
>>697488678
Thread/
>>697488561
Baaahahahahah....
>>697489298
Confusing SJWs with trans
Or just trans teenagers who are just going through there emotional teenage years
>>697488365
It's the degeneracy of our society, or at least one of the many pieces of it. Happens to a lot of civilizations before collapse.
>>697489014
I've met two, and both seemed as happy as any other person I've ever met for 30 minutes. But then again, there is a man in my apartment who thinks he is Jesus. He's happy as shit, but that doesn't make him any less mentally ill.
>>697489470
Neither does saying a trans person can't be trans because of your opinions
If they aren't hurting anyone what's the problem
Thats a dude with tits not a trans person....get it strait....
>>697489705
It makes me physically ill. People are being hurt
>>697488465
gynecomastia
>>697488365
Argh, hit it with a stick!
>>697489349
so what if theyre mentally ill? that doesnt have anything to do with you, if they pose a threat to you, fight back. just leave them to do whatever they want.
>>697489298
exactly how do they push their views onto you? are there any LGBT police going around conducting forced gender reassignment surgery on you or anyone at all?
>>697489562
Trans are worse than sjws your just a retard. What's worse a mentally confused retard ruining our culture our some fat cunt who likes to spout off shit on tumblr that nobody is going to read. The fact you even try comparing them just shows how retarded Trans people really are
>>697489955
Is this your idea of an intelligent argument?
If so I think we all know who has the real mental illness
>>697489935
Its a dude with tits thats not a fucking trans person,its a dude seeking attention.
>>697488365
Why don't you stop complaining and freely express your gender instead. I'm not saying you have to come up with a label for it, or go super abstract with it, or transition or anything; I'm just just saying, be you. Do the things you wanna do regardless of presupposed gender boundaries and express yourself.
And remember
>if you involve other parties you need their consent
>If nobody understands, let that go
>have fun with it
>>697488365
then stop shilling it
>>697489935
You're the problem your too stupid to even realize it. Making this shit post on b for literally nothing but attention. Your Trans so what, why do you feel the need to let everyone know? Because they crave attention and contribute nothing to society. A few years ago /b/ had hardly any traps but nowadays all you retards have gone through puberty and traps are more prevent than ever.
>>697489298
/thread
>>697490275
Weeewoooweeewwoooo
Sjw to the rescue!!!
>>697488561
>perfectly normal transgender
>>697489955
the issue is how are they even ruining your culture? if you want to live the way 18th century farmers lived, just fucking do it, no ones stopping you, just let people live the way they want. not to mention, why do you care about your culture so much? are you so under-achieved that your "culture" is the only thing you can cling on to make yourself feel better?
>>697490186
and so what? by talking shit about him online youre just attracting more attention to him. it doesnt fucking matter what he is, that has nothing to do with you or anyone. youre just looking for a way to be pissed off at something.
>>697490275
im not trans, and once again, so what if theyre looking for attention? what does that have anything to do with you? people crave attention naturally, different people do it different ways. if you dont want to give someone attention, dont do it, being this assmad about something that doesnt have anything to do with your life is stupid.
>>697488365
Fucking hot!!!
>>697490557
Dude!!Its a man with tits shut the fuck up..
>>697490557
Because they are literally genetic and social failures who have no right to speaking out about anything. Hurr gender isn't one or the other I'm differnt durr look at me. No your just a fucking retard who doesn't deserve a voice because your clearly mentally retarded. When you see a person with down syndrome trying to teach a physics class you'd say the same thing
>>697489935
You see a kid with, let's say, a grenade in his hand, tugging at the pin. He is a good 20 yards away , with a sheet of blast-proof glass between you. He could easily hear you if you call out to him and tell him not to pull the pin. He is too far away to throw the grenade at you or anybody else before it blows. Would you leave him be, because he poses no threat to you? Or would you call out to him and warn him about the dangers of what he's doing because you don't enjoy seeing people get hurt?
And keep in mind, he is shouting at the top of his lungs about how he has the grenade and its unfair that he identifies as a cloud of pink mist and nobody will treat him that way.
>>697488457
Oh shut the fuck up. They look happy because they have a severe mental illness. It's sad. They're not being assessed and helped because their illness is now a "gender".
Pic related, it's all the now recognized genders in New York as of 2016.
This shit is out of control.
>>697490956
Fucking agreed why the hell would u get tits but keep all the man shit.
>>697490972
Let him become a cloud of mist
>>697488457
They look happy yet people who are transgender are 20x more likely to commit suicide then normal people.
>>697490557
They are cancer homosexualty and trans is a plague to our species and it needs to be thought of as a bad thing not a good thing, why? We see it today the number of trans people is rising because for the sole reason it's become more socially acceptable so the 15 year old confused kid can think he's a girl and your wrong if you tell him different. I know a lot of gay men and they hate trans people because they're attention seeking and literally cancer. At least a gay person knows and understands that what they're doing is socially unacceptable but a trans person just crys for attention in hopes people will accept them
>>697488365
Thats a nice rack 0,0
>>697491241
Pic related again. These genders in New York are protected BY LAW
I identify with a train. Does this make my gender a train now?
>>697488465
an faggot
>>697488365
Why?
MUHH PRONOUNS MUH PROGRESSIVE FREEDOMS
"Gender fluid is a gender identity which refers to a gender which varies over time. A gender fluid person may at any time identify as male, female, neutrois, or any other non-binary identity, or some combination of identities."
>>697490912
cant argue can you?
>>697490956
what constitute them having no rights to speak about anything? who are you to decide if anyone has rights or not? rights are stupid, people should be able to do whatever the fuck they want without any constraint. i couldnt give a single fuck if someone with down syndrome teaches physics, i'd just pick another class. the same way with these people, just dont interract with them. you give way too much fucks
>>697490972
i dont give a fuck about some random kid i dont know. personally, id do anything that pleases me thats not against my best interest. i'd tell him to not kill himself because it doesnt please me to see a kid dying from stupidity. but if the kid wills it and does it anyways, not my problem. stop caring so much about what other people do and worry about yourself.
>>697491517
as ive said, so what if theyre attention seekers? just dont give them attention if you dont like it, if you have a personal irrational hatred for trannies, leave it be. you dont have to be tolerant or accepting, just stop caring so much about issues that has literally nothing to do with you. nobody's forcing you to become a trannie.
also, more people are becoming trans because the cost for surgery is becoming cheaper, and people who dont get surgery are even more likely to commit suicide than when they do.
>>697491610
I identify as a woman, but only when I see a hot woman head to the womens locker room at the Y. Otherwise I identify as a man.
Thank goodness for transgenderism, though, its helping me see the naked hot women at my gym.
#genderfluidFTW
>>697491501
I mean, how would you feel if quite literally 70% of the world considers you morally corrupt for something you find to be an absolute truth about yourself?
FACT: Every single transgender person I have ever met suffers from extreme depression and the root cause is always the same thing - assholes like you.
We live in a world where it's possible to be anything you want to be, and most importantly, someone's decision to be trans has absolutely no effect on you whatsoever. So what the fuck is the point in getting all butthurt about it? Seriously. Focus on the real problems mankind faces, like intolerant and willfully ignorant fuckheads like OP and the rest of the shitstains that share his views.
>>697491501
Im trans and this asshole is not trans!Its a fucking man that wants attention.infact he makes trans people look bad.
Who gives a fuck about transgendered people or who identifies as what? You know what costs me more in fucking taxes? Fat ass fucking people who take two goddamn steps and are already breaking a sweat. Obesity is a real fucking plague.
>>697491896
Kill yoself tranny
>>697491970
This man speaks the truth.
Fucking tranny's clogging up my tinder. Do any of you honestly think you pass?
Are they hurting anything? YES MY EYES
And insulting my intelligence for thinking they can fool me into believing they're a woman.
As an artist who has studied female and male anatomy for years I can tell you with 100% certainty you will never achieve womanhood. Not because science is incapable of it, but because you are all lazy narcissists who just want life to be on easy mode because you failed at being a man/woman. You will never understand the intricacies or appreciate the social dynamics at play in each genders world.
It's like watching a fat chick talk about how guys love her for her big titties and how she's a "real woman" and how bones are for dogs. It's willful ignorance and you know it
Trans girl here, was passing, if you met me you would probably like me and would see me as a girl
It is absolutely mental illness, im going back as ive managed to figure it out, but getting to this point and being clear headed on it has taken years.
Trans people have emotional trauma, low self esteem and a fragmented sense of self and seek to overcome it by transitioning. The "ive always felt like a girl" line is bullshit.
Theres biological factors at play too, but the are minimal compared to the psychological ones, trans people are fucked up, and transitioning can temporarily solve it, but ultimately its a distraction.
>>697491970
this. anti-trannies dont even realize that by considering trans "mentally ill", theyre giving trans an opportunity to take their tax money for "disabled people".
>>697491970
In 2010, an estimated $444 billion was spent on cardiovascular disease treatment, medication and lost productivity from disability.
>>697492108
One of my best friends is a trans man. Had the surgery and everything. I'm a cis/het man, married to a woman. You can keep pretending to be sherlock holmes though if it makes you feel smart... since you're completely unwilling to educate yourself about anything outside your circle of interests.
>>697491896
OP here and fuck u....its some ass hole with tits good day i gotta get back to work.
>>697491970
See
>>697491610
These genders are protected under law against what they deem discrimination. They can legally sue now for anything. Like, the bathrooms don't have a picture of a manwomansheman on it.
>>697491896
>where it's possible to be anything you want to be
really? i can be a 1.3 meter tall, 9 year old, chinese girl? even though i'm a 2.04 meter tall, 37 year old, italian-american guy?
I can REALLY be anything I want to be?
smh
>>697492260
Willing to bet YOUR tits are twice as big, but not from trying, from consuming far too many baconators. Does that make you partially a woman?
I now identify with a 1967 Impala. I'm transmission.
>>697492326
According to the left you can. Look at Shaun King, Transnigger.
>>697491862
You say you don't have to be tolerant or accepting. That's a fucking lie. I don't mind gay or lesbians but I just can't accept trans. When someone finds out you're not too fond of trans, you would most likely get shat on for being a bigot or being close minded. Also, yes they're attention seeking. It's like you haven't been on any social media over the past 5 or so years.
>>697491862
>as ive said, so what if theyre attention seekers?
Then whats your issue with everybody hating them? It wouldn't effect me but I see a stupid thread like this every time I come on /b/ and I have to watch men in my city walk around dressed like girls and it has an effect on my children, that's how it affects me. If you want to be trans then stop feeling the need brag and tell everyone about how special they are. Because that's the only reason they seek attention they don't want to be looked at like as a normal human they want to be looked as "special" for being a mentally confused and weak person. It's disgusting If I saw a guy walking around dripping in ketchup would you not say anything just because that's his fetish?
>>697489298
I second this.
>>697488365
He is a 10/10 grill. are you sure it needs to stop?
>>697492321
See
>>697492218
Don't fucking care WHO they sue, fat ass fucks are taking billions from the government claiming disability because THEY'RE TOO GOD DAMNED LAZY TO FUCKING MOVE.
I met trans people and didn't give a shit because they worked and held jobs, except the fat ones probably, but suing someone in court doesn't guarantee money, claiming disability because they're 500 fucking pounds does.
>>697490972
"It's up to me to stop mental illness by calling trans fags and saying it's just something they made up"
It took me a while to learn this but the way to stopping mental illness is not telling them "it's just something you made up for whatever reason"
Then when they finally grow outve there phase they hate the people who told them that they just made it up and then places like tumblr were made where they can voice their hate for the people who told them no
And it's most the time a white male who told them no
>>697491970
>>697492218
That's more than a billion a day.
The U.S. spent $8,402 per person on health care in 2010.
The United States spent $2.6 trillion on health care in 2010.
This amount was 48% higher than in the next highest spending country (Switzerland), and about 90% higher than in many other countries that we would consider global competitors.
>>697492172
Yes, you're completely right about the low self esteem thing. They all are.
>>697491896
>society's fault
that is strictly incorrect, and simply cannot account for the widspread degree of the suicidal ideation
>>697492438
Op here...howed you know?
>>697492326
Technically speaking, yes, your body COULD be transformed to that degree. It's completely realistically possible, but no sane doctor in the world is going to do it for you for anything short of millions of dollars in international waters.
Step 1 - Height reduction. This one is the trickiest and most dangerous. The easiest way to do it would be spinal compression which takes years to do and still has a risk of damaging your spinal cord. After that they would be removing and replacing leg bones. Again possible but completely unsafe. After that skin tone, eye slant and apparent age are all pretty simple cosmetic surgeries, slightly harder is the act of removing your penis and constructing a vagina but still doable.
Fucking think for a minute dude. Sure it's not likely (arguably would never happen it's so unlikely) but if you really wanted to make it happen and had the resources you could make it happen.
>>697491970
At least those fat people are contributing to society, explain to me how spending more tax dollars on trans people would help our society in any way. Go ahead and stop paying for health care and the country will colapse you fucking idiot
>>697492706
And this is why I support a single payer healthcare system. I pay for my healthcare through taxes and we don't have to deal with bullshit like health insurance companies and their fucking co-pays and their deductibles and other shit that's overly complex so they get more money.
>>697488365
Bad Photoshop
>>697492759
They can have high self esteem after transition, I did and do now, but at the start, yes their self esteem is incredibly low.
>>697489434
Flamboyant fags and niggers have been around for thousands of years, still not accepted as "Normies". So I'm not too sure where your logic comes from.
>>697488365
Thats one ugly bitch!!!
>>697492890
Fucking really? Explain to me how some 500 pound bedridden disgusting fat ass is contributing to society? Explain to me how their cost in health insurance is worth more than the value of a WHO GIVES THE FUCK GENDER THEY ARE person working a job who isn't claiming disability?
>>697491896
So we're the asshole for not accepting your own delusional and retarded viewpoints?LOL. No your just a weak minded person who never understood how to be your own person. Parents do a bad job at raising kids so it probably wasn't your fault but your still a mentally confused and weak person who doesn't deserve any special treatment
>>697493081
Op here its real theres a youtube video...
>>697491896
You are, literally, an idiot.
Depression does not come from any other person.
It comes from the fact your internal view of yourself - the truth - does not match the external projection you wish to make.
Just because others are the mirrors that ruin your delusion does not make others responsible for the depression that stems from fighting to make a delusion reality.
>>697493202
Because she buys the food and keeps your economy alive. Not to mention a 500 pound jobless person is not as rare as you'd like to believe.
Man, what is the problem? Really? If a dude wants to be called a chick, whatever, let him do so, it's not of your fucking business. You guys worry too much about something that can be easily solved by simply stop giving a fuck about it at all. And, honestly, you end up being as faggish as the ones you complain about
>>697492636
I do hate fat fucks as well and where my money is going. Like paying for the ones in mobility scooters with a grab tool to shop for cookies and donuts in Wal-Mart. I want to kick them the fuck over.
I'm not just talking about trans people though. There are now legally 31 "genders".
>>697493001
The United States federal government has spent or obligated 4.4 trillion dollars on the wars in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Iraq.
>>697493242
Yet another person who assumes I'm trans. lol. Your inability to divine basic facts about a person from an opinionated post screams worlds to me about your IQ.
Your entire argument is based off the idea that I'm someone who is seeking acceptance for wanting to be something else. I'm perfectly content with my gender and sex organs, I'm quite fond of my penis and I enjoy the fuck out of putting it in my wife.
Wanna talk about weak minded, point the finger at yourself. Also for the record, my parents are baptists and think anyone who is trans or homosexual should be burned at the stake. Which is why I don't talk to them or have anything to do with them, I find it sickening that I am related to people who can hate someone they've never met that strongly because of a difference in philosophy.
>>697493380
The fact this thread even exists shows they don't keep to themselves and have to force their views on other people. 5 years ago /b/ had none of this shit but nowadays there's always at least one thread of some trans person trying to change socieity to fit their own delusional views.
The U.S. federal government spent over $15 billion dollars in 2010 on the War on Drugs, at a rate of about $500 per second. State and local governments spent at least another 25 billion dollars.
>>697488365
what the fuck are you crying about? Im trans and its perfectly normal to change gender if you chose an existing one like male or female. (s)he obviously chose to be a male not some made up bullshit. I dont see anything you should be crying about.
>>697493588
So you're speaking on behalf of trans people but you aren't even trans? Kill yourself. I was just pointing out the obvious flaw in your statement, "Trans people are depressed because of assholes like you" which is false. They're depressed becauase of their own damn insecurities and issues the fact you put the blame on other people shows how fucking beta you are
The average annual cost to confine an inmate in a residential re-entry center was $28,999.25. State prisons averaged $31,286 per inmate in 2010 according to a Vera Institute of Justice study.
>>697493296
Finally, an argument with an ounce of intelligence behind it.
Technically speaking you are right, in a lot of cases depression stems from the fact that you don't match up with the person you would like to be.
But as I'm sure you are aware, that's not the only cause for depression. Your explanation does not explain why a father is depressed when his child dies of sids - there's nothing the father could have done to prevent it, and yes as a secondary reaction many people will still internalize it and blame it on themselves or their own failings, but the root cause of the depression was the death of the child.
>>697493834
His point was probably that you are having negative impact rather than a positive.
>>697493840
Yeah lets lower inmate budgets and feed them nothing but bread and water, that's going to help our society isn't it?
>>697493495
Who gives a fuck? Call themselves a rainbow bubble for all I care. If they're working a job, I literally couldn't care less. That shit doesn't affect me. If I meet the person in passing, I'll think they're stupid but be respectful since that's how I was raised. Now fat people wasting tax money on being obese, that's a real issue to my wallet.
>>697493703
Please get help for your mental illness. You're more prone to suicide and I'm pretty sure you'll be dead in a few years. Just looking out for you.
Hey guys its real https://youtu.be/QX5og5EYFdQ
>>697493114
I actually know too many people with low self esteem whether it be a guy or girl. They all act the same and it's annoying. They'll call themselves ugly or fat and it's hard to have a convo going without it ending up with them talking about it. And if course it's a pity party when it comes to group chats. One of the dudes I know might not look it but has very low self esteem. He looks good and normal however he thinks he might want to transition. Idk why but apparently he feels girly or something. The dude looks manly as fuck and I seriously don't get it. It's also hard to talk any sense into him without coming off like a dick. I tend to avoid people with low self esteem now, too much annoyance.
>>697493834
Oh, now I'm beta? For posting a contrary opinion in a thread full of wannabe alpha's? Okay, edgelord, fuck off with your half-logic and try ruining someone else's day, not gonna have any affect on mine lol.
>>697493330
Fucking both parties buy food. What's your point? The real issue with obese people are all of fucking heart attacks and doctors visits that are coming out of MY paid taxes. If a guy wants to get his dick turned inside out, THEY have to pay for it.
>>697494138
Typicall trans person tries spouting off his views on other people and when he gets called out for being retarded he looks the other way.
>>697494127
Thanks....great masterbating material..
>>697493575
Never said I was for the war in Iraq. Didn't know what was going on considering I was in middle school during 9/11. Looking back on it now, it was quite obvious it was done for the oil. We definitely didn't add any stability to that region at all.
>>697493973
No, it won't but prison isn't helping either.
ureau of Justice Statistics studies have found high rates of recidivism among released prisoners. One study tracked 404,638 prisoners in 30 states after their release from prison in 2005.[1] The researchers found that:
Within three years of release, about two-thirds (67.8 percent) of released prisoners were rearrested.
Within five years of release, about three-quarters (76.6 percent) of released prisoners were rearrested.
Of those prisoners who were rearrested, more than half (56.7 percent) were arrested by the end of the first year.
Property offenders were the most likely to be rearrested, with 82.1 percent of released property offenders arrested for a new crime compared with 76.9 percent of drug offenders, 73.6 percent of public order offenders and 71.3 percent of violent offenders.
>>697488365
Mine are bigger.
>>697488365
It's a woman who wants to be a gay man? Or is it a dude in the process of becoming the ugliest chick on earth?
>>697494146
The fact is those same fat people who need to see doctors are also working class people who keep your economy alive. Last time I checked trans people were uneducated, had worse jobs and spent a hell of a lot more time speaking with doctors about their issues then some fat guy. I know 2 trans people and they're always seeing physciatrist and doctors about issues with their gender, do you think those doctors are doing it for free you idiot?
>>697494011
tell me how would it be mental illness to identify as an already existing gender and not some tumblr shit.
>>697494361
All told, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have cost $1.4 trillion so far. Even as U.S. forces draw down, reconstruction is ongoing. Stabilizing Afghanistan is estimated to cost another $9 billion a year through 2014. The U.S. has dedicated $60.45 billion since 2003 to reconstruction efforts in Iraq.
This money goes somewhere.
>>697494556
You identify as something you are not. The fact you don't see any problem just shows how far gone you are
>>697488365
I'm okay with this, because I never would have had to see this if it wasn't for the internet. The other way around though...
>>697494245
lol.
>Still thinks I'm trans
>Obviously can't read
I mean I can post a pic of my dick if you like, I'm pretty proud of it.
>>697494511
Lies and stereotypes.
The medical care costs of obesity in the United States are high. In 2008 dollars, these costs were estimated to be $147 billion. The annual nationwide productive costs of obesity obesity-related absenteeism range between $3.38 billion ($79 per obese individual) and $6.38 billion ($132 per obese individual)
>>697494137
send him my way and i could probably talk some sense into him.
I had the trans girl dream. pass, attractive, supportive family, good friends, good career.
it is mental illness, as ive said above, once you realise that it grows you as a person, but if you don't it can fuck up your life.
>>697494511
Plot twist those doctors are fat.
Also what the fuck are you guys arguing about?
>>697494660
I have a penis (from birth) and identify as a man, and I don't see any problem with someone wanting to change their plumbing. If you're not happy with the situation you were born into and you have the power to change it, how is it unhealthy to want to change it?
>>697494863
You fail to realize no matter how much you try you cannot change your gender. You're either a man or a women, if you can't accept yourself for who you are then yes it's obviously unhealthy.
>>697494863
You're only mutilating yourself. No matter how many surgeries you have or how many drugs you take you'll never have a real vagina. Just a weird skin hole that you need to lube to use.
>>697494511
I know two trans people too and a lot of "normal" people as well who see psychiatrists. You think trans people are the only ones with fucking mental issues? How fucking daft are you? And these fat fucks who have heart attacks are worth less in value since their hospital bills most likely add up to a significant amount.
>>697494831
Fat people are a bigger burden on society than trans people.
>>697489014
Go to mental hospital. Note smiles. Realize your parameters for mental health aren't useful.
>>697495147
My point is those fat people having heart attacks spent a lifetime helping out your economy unlike trans people. And Trans people always have mental illness that's the difference from a normal people you idiot.
>>697495103
>>697495122
> no matter how much you try you cannot change your gender.
i'm pretty sure people back in the days said the same thing about curing plagues and shit.
and where we are today?
following this, you really cant imagine that in the near future people will be able to grow organs in labs (already happened, google it) including sex organs?
>>697494863
I don't think it works that way. Sounds more like if you were born poor and aren't happy with it, you change it. Sounds more like that scenario.
You can't change your sex, you can only change your looks. Getting implants, taking drugs or chopping/adding things does not actually change you realistically. This is why I never understood the trans view point. I also hate the fact that it gets grouped with gay and lesbian affairs.
>>697495103
So you're claiming that not a single person in history has been able to medically change their gender?
Do you know what google is? Are you aware of gender reassignment procedures? Is this a subject you have ever done any reading on at all?
People have been changing their gender for years now. A man can become a woman capable of bearing children now if he so chose. I can't think of anything more identifiably womanly than bearing and giving birth to a child, can you?
>>697495305
Only the annoying fat acceptance ones. The normal fatties who just like burgers and dislike exercise are a lot less annoying than a man with boobs who punches you for not understanding that they're a pansexual rainbow unicorn otherkin toaster oven faggot godess.
>>697495122
Are you aware that it is medically possible for any man who undergoes gender therapy to get impregnated by a man, carry a child in their womb and give natural birth? That's not science fiction, and you should really make an attempt at educating yourself.
>>697494863
When your vision of yourself does not reflect reality, its called body dysmorphia. Its the same as anorexia. They are mutilating their bodies so they can look like the version their messed up brain is conjuring.
>>697494827
I gave up on him, tbh I don't think he's going to do it. He would look fucked up as a trans either way. He says he's thinking about it for the future or some shit so I stopped caring. Naturally he has depression or something similar so I could only imagine it's an excuse for him.
>>697493609
Just ignore it. By replying you are giving them the attention that they always beg, force and bitch to have. But noooo, every /b/tard JUST HAVE TO post something, keeping the thread alive. Every day I see good threads die on /b/ and other boards, reply to those threads, not to the attwhores.
>>697495542
Stem cell research isn't nearly as advanced as you think. Don't run around shitting yourself over the possibility of a lab grown gf. I'm 22 years old and I'm not holding my breath on this one. Maybe in 200-300 years.
For those who can't be bothered to google shit for themselves:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_pregnancy
>>697491862
>personally, id do anything that pleases me
This isn't regarded as a virtue.
>>697495542
And here's an example of the average person who supports trans people. A complete idiot.
>>697495584
You cannot change your gender who are you trying to fool?
>>697495736
You're full of shit. A m to f tranny can't get pregnant, dumbass. Why do you think so many /b/tards fap to them?
>>697495584
>A man can give birth
Give me some citations and please don't choose only that one rare case in the whole world. I want to see 100% evidence that any man in the world can decide to give birth.
>>697495537
The medical care costs of obesity in the United States are high. In 2008 dollars, these costs were estimated to be $147 billion. The annual nationwide productive costs of obesity obesity-related absenteeism range between $3.38 billion ($79 per obese individual) and $6.38 billion ($132 per obese individual)
There are between 100 and 500 genital surgeries every year in the United States as part of gender transition, according to the Encyclopedia of Surgery.
In Pennsylvania, the Philadelphia Center for Transgender Surgery posts cost estimates for different procedures. Its price list mentions estimates of $140,450 to transition from male to female, and $124,400 to transition from female to male.
Do math you lazy fat clog of the societal drainpipe.
>>697495862
still, whenever we are possible to do it it means gender IS changeable. and no matter when are we become able to do it, because whenever we do, it only means gender was changeable the whole time, we just didnt have the technology. Its not going to be at ONE point in history that gender becomes changeable. It is and it was and it will be in the future too with the right technology and medicine
>>697488365
It's a fad, nothing more.
>>697495537
I'll let this guy hand you your ass. The real fact is that there are MILLIONS of obese people draining tax money compared to the thousands of trans people. If both are working, one is still more of a drain on society.
>>697496174
>>697495537
>140,450
>>697496174
140,450 x 500 = 70,225,000
That's 70 million at it's highest.
>>697491610
Why do you care what people choo-choose as their genders?
>>697496166
this.
>>697488365
nobody has to do jack shit to please you. Fuck off.
>>697491241
Did anyone else laugh when they read "Gender Bender"?
>>697495537
Eugene Schrang, a Wisconsin surgeon who specialized in gender reassignment surgeries before retiring in 2007, said most patients paid out of pocket for their surgeries, and it was rare for insurance to cover the procedures. Factors that affect the cost include the number of surgeries people want, where the surgeries take place and what type of insurance they use. They also might incur additional costs for travel, hospital stays and psychological evaluations.
>>697496174
Further, The list, unlike many others, includes potential costs for things such as anesthesia, hospital stay and each of the potential surgeries that someone transitioning from one gender to the other may want or require. These numbers are based on one surgery center though, and will change depending on factors such as insurance, the hospital that is attended or if someone is using a different surgery center altogether.
>>697496733
He doesn't have to fuck off to please you. Fuck off.
>>697495584
A man has nevery transitioned to a woman and given birth. You can give no evidence that has happened.
>>697488365
gender = male or female
otherwise mentally diseased
>>697496534
So what point are you trying to make? People have heart attacks when they get old how do you plan on fixing that genius? We should spend all our money helping these mentally confused people ruin our culture and literally cause a plague to our species? For what? Oh right because they're so special and they deserve it. I want tax money so I can implant rocks into my head , waaaaah where's my tax money for that though? Even if we did pay for everything a trans person wants it would contribute nothing to society and just cause more damage to the person and people around him, unlike with helping people with heart problems you delusionl retard
>>697496803
he doesnt have to fuck of to please you either, so fuck off
>>697496227
>thinks that tech advances no matter what
>doesn't understand that most R&D funding will go to things that actually matter
cutting your dick off is not as important as artificial intelligence or manned missions to mars. This stem cell bullshit is hundreds of years off because nobody wants to piss away millions to develop tech that benefits a handful of mentally ill crybaby faggots.
>>697496733
Back to tumblr.
>>697496914
You have to fuck me to please me, so fuck me.
Hate all faggits
>>697495589
Yes, fuck fat acceptance. I mean, great, they're confident in their body, fine. They're still more likely to get heart attacks and have taxpayers foot the bill. I hardly hear about trans people attacking others, but all these fucking fatass rednecks around my area like to throw their weight around for sure.
Also, normal fatties fucking REEK. I mean, it's bad enough there's all kinds of fucking pollution on this goddamn planet, but they as a person have to sizzle my fucking nose hairs out of existence and make me gag and cover my nose? Christ fucking take their sins away and their smell.
>>697496227
Are you saying gender is just the parts you have?
>>697496759
>hail hail robonia
>a land i didn't make up
>>697496969
yea because missions to mars fucking worth anything. Dont worry we all know america is just trying to make their dick look bigger. No one gives a shit about mars, other than sticking a fucking flag on its surface.
>>697496911
>We should spend all our money helping these mentally confused people ruin our culture
T
>and literally cause a plague to our species?
O
>I want tax money so I can implant rocks into my head
P
>Even if we did pay for everything a trans person wants it would contribute nothing to society
K
>just cause more damage to the person and people around him
E
>unlike with helping people with heart problems you delusionl
K
>>697497100
What third world shithole are you living in? Here in North Europe we have showers.
>>697497286
I will put rocks in your head for free.
>>697493117
That's like a sexy Dee Snider
>>697497116
no, gender is something you chose for yourself you can either accept the one you were born with, or change to the only other gender that exists. if you do so, and decide to change then you can start changing your bodyparts
>>697493703
>Perfectly normal
kill yourself
>>697497622
no u :^)
>>697497219
>global warming isn't real
>we should just keep polluting the oceans
>ocean microbes totally aren't responsible for sustaining life on earth
This planet will get fucked up. Humans need to colonize other planets to survive. How dumb are you?
>>697489349
wow, literally the first time ever I have been swayed by someone on /b/. Actually understand your side of the argument.
>>697497544
If I'm white but I try really hard to be black does that make me black? No it makes you a retard
>>697496911
>James Barry (1789/1799–1865), British military surgeon and Inspector General in charge of military hospitals
>Esben Esther Pirelli Benestad (b. 1949), Norwegian physician, family therapist, sexologist
>Balian Buschbaum (b. 1980), German pole vaulter and two time European Championship bronze medalist
>Lynda Cash (b. ?), English Navy officer
>Angela Clayton, British physicist and activist
>Lynn Conway (b. 1938), American computer scientist and electrical engineer
>Roberta Cowell (1918–2011), World War II fighter pilot, and the first British trans woman to have undergone gender reassignment
>Kate Craig-Wood (b. 1977), British IT entrepreneur
Keep going?
>>697488457
>they
I only see one person in the photo
>>697497821
yea colonize other planets that arent even habitable, instead of starting to take care about the one we have. Fucking logic
>>697497918
People have been getting their dicks chopped off since we were monkeys what your point retard? I'm just denying that traps deserved to be payed for by tax dollars like some of you idiots claim
>>697497319
America where people have the freedom to choose to shower and eat as much as they want. It's fucking disgusting. You must have some people who reek in Europe?
>>697498053
Fixing earth is an easy solution compared to colonzing a planet. All you have to do to fix earth is exterminate 90% of the population which most countries are capable of doing if they tried
>>697498053
You'd see it is actually logical.
Eggs and baskets.
From internal threats to external threats.
>>697489298
n-th Post best post.
>>697498329
i didnt know earth was 90% niggers
>>697498098
>Added to the Constitution in 1868, this amendment contains a clause stating that "no state shall . . . deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
>>697498053
>implying that the huge companies ruling over the earth with food and electronics would allow that to happen
>implying the missions to mars aren't going to help us understand more about the universe
>is part of the most intelligent known species
>"lets sit in a box and limit ourselves because it's better than the unknown for sure!"
Logic.
>>697488365
I sexually Identify as John Cena. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of defending my WWE championship at WWE SUPERSLAM. People say to me that a person being John Cena is Impossible and I'm fucking retarded but I don't care, You Can't See Me. I'm having Vince McMahon inject me with Hustle, Loyalty, and Respect. From now on I want you guys to call me "Champ" and respect my right to Five Knuckle Shuffle and Never Give Up. If you can't accept me you're a cenaphobe and need to check your #1 Contendership. Thank you for being so understanding.
>>697488678
Transgender isn't a mental illness, it's just a personal choice. Special Snowflake Syndrome Shit is also a personal choice, regardless on whether or not it's a retarded one.
that's photoshopped.
>>697498619
Kek
This is how all of you mentally retarded people sound to me
>>697488365
Yuh biology stauhps where muh feelings of psychotic episodes begin.
>>697498594
>implying that we should understand the universe instead of understanding ourselves.
>>697498539
Good things there's no law saying we need to pay for your unnessecary and retarded surgery. It seems everyone who tries defending traps are severely retarded that law was created to help women you complete moron
>>697491862
You sound like fucking Hedonismbot.
>>697496911
>Old people get heart attacks
Yeah and? You don't have a choice when it comes to aging. You DO have a choice when you decide to eat till you're 300 pounds. I never said they should get tax money, they fucking don't get tax money. They pay for shit out of pocket because INSURANCE DOESN'T COVER THAT KIND OF SURGERY.
You need to stop arguing. Trans people aren't as much of a plague as you THINK they are. Seriously just ignore how much they whine and cry. The trans people I know that aren't belligerent about it actually work two jobs. You just have an illogical phobia and you're not looking at facts.
>>697498847
HEDONISMBOT IS MY HERO BITCH!!!
>>697498858
The fact remains the number of trans people and surgeries being done is rising and because of uneducated and delusional people like yourself. Kids do what they see and when they all these people talking about gender differences it effects how they turn out. Whatever if you want to live in a society where men are no longer men and vice verse then be my guest you retarded faggot its going to be the end of our species
>>697498821
>tries to sound deep and wise
>actually sounds like a shallow idiot who hasn't taken a biology class
>ignores what I said about AI but you choose contradict yourself here
>implying we can progress technologically without pushing the limits of our bodies, minds, and current tech
An hero you dumb fuck.
>>697498858
Those people getting surgeries done will never produce an offspring, they are literally a plague to society in every meaning of the word. They don't deserve any praise, any respect, they deserved to be shunned
IT HAS A PUSSY
"HE" IS A WOMAN
YOU'RE ALL FAGGOTS IF YOU WOULDN'T FUCK THAT
>>697498845
>help women you complete moron
It was actually the compromise between freeing the slaves and not freeing the slaves.
If you get surgery paid for by taxes because you are obese or have heart problems etc. Then so will others. If you don't like it, protest. Just don't expect your dreams and hopes to come true by shitposting on 4chan lol.
In a 2013 survey by Jody Herman, manager of transgender research at the Williams Institute, employers characterized the costs of covering transition-related coverage "negligible" and "minimal" because so few people used those services.
You got destroyed mate, repeatedly and without lube.
>>697499441
Implying this has anything to do with what we're discussing. Try staying on topic retard I know it's hard with weak mind of yours
>>697499108
You're seriously worried about our species dying out? You're worried about 7 billion fucking people no longer existing? Buddy, you and I will be dead long before that happens and lets be realistic, it'll only happen because we would have destroyed the Earth beyond redemption.
A radical change like that isn't going to happen because a couple thousand people want to be the opposite sex. Their lives, your life, my life, in the grand scope of things, it's all insignificant.
>>697499390
I'm getting a vasectomy, what does that make me? We don't need more children. My previous point is reiterated. We have 7 billion people on this planet, lots of them are incapable of reproducing, lots of them reproduce and abandon their offspring. If you want a kid, go fucking adopt. Why you'd want to raise a child with the way the world is currently is beyond me.
>>697491241
Nah you have a severe mental illness. You're unhappy so you're gonna make them unhappy because they arent living your life. Kill yourself because nobody will give a shit. I promise.
>>697488365
Why, are you getting confused?
I dont get you guys.. a human is a human because it realized that its existing. We use our creative minds to express ourselves, we use our minds to discover and invent new things, to expand our universe. Every day you wake up and go to your wardrobe to choose a clothing that fits you, that expresses who you are, that you are an individual. I dont see why couldnt you do the same with gender. Yes biologically it is to reproduce, but we humans dont need to rely on primitive instincts i mean what would happen to sicence if we were to explain things the most simplest, easiest way we can. Nothing would've progressed. We would be stuck in caves. Expressing ourselves and our genders is literally overcoming being primitive. Because finally we learn to express ourselves, to not categorize things, but to let everyone be an individual, recognizing that, and accepting that.
"Some guy wants to be a woman! Let's mock him because we don't have nothing better to do!"
You can't be fucking serious...
>>697499420
....I wanna fuck it
>>697499976
I don't think you realize how easily our species can be wiped out it only takes on virus or one natural disaster at any moment and 99% could be gone. But hey if we do have a meaning to life it's to produce offspring, and you already fucked that up good job. I don't expect traps to take over the world but there presence greatly affects the minds of our children and I'm not happy seeing our society turn more and more sissy by the decade like it's been doing,.
>>697500185
welcome to the interwebz :^)
>>697499751
It has literally everyth related to what we're discussing.
In-fact, you're the one changing topic everytime i destroy your anus.
The Williams Institute, an LGBT research institute at UCLA, estimates there are 700,000 transgender people in the United States, or roughly 0.0029 percent of the adult population.
Such a DRAIN on society.
>Less than a million people are destroying u.s culture and stealing all muh taxes!!
>>697488365
I want him to live how I see fit. If that makes him unhappy? Too bad. I want everybody to live how I want them to live. Its not there life, its mine!!!!!!!!!
>>697500437
Their* oop
>>697500418
I didn't even read your post before replying that's how fucking dumb you are
>>697500401
See
>>697500418
You can't blame us. Obviously it's the media's fault. Seeing as that is our primary influence of our perception of society.
Mediafags just want a story and they get one every time because everyone is stupid and refutes any kind of objective perspective.
As a trans, i've never forced my views onto a child. But the t.v shows have.
>>697488365
He should not live his life that way. Its a mental illness because its not in the social norm that I was constructed to live by.
>>697500401
And we as humans are resilient and have already overcome viruses with all kinds of science and technology. If there was a virus that could end humanity, we would most likely put every single resource into providing a cure (unlike cancer) and eliminate it immediately (unlike cancer).
If a virus managed to kill 50% of the people on Earth, we would still have 3.5 billion people that could reproduce. There is absolutely no way humanity would let itself go extinct unless, as I said, we managed to destroy the Earth.
>>697500401
And as a follow up from the virus thing, if a natural disaster were to strike (such as global warming, again, us killing ourselves), there's absolutely nothing you can do. If we are destined to be wiped out as a species, it'll fucking happen whether you like it or not.
>>697501097
It's not hard to kill people, who's to say in 100 years the next president doesn't nuke all of asia and the middle east? Mass genocide is nothing new to us I said it before but once our population gets severely out of control we're just going to start killing people. Not sure why people don't want to have kids seems pretty selfish and stupid.
>>697501097
Where would we be without bees? As far as important species go, they are top of the list. They are critical pollinators: they pollinate 70 of the around 100 crop species that feed 90% of the world.
Animals that rely on particular plant species would become extinct if those plants ceased to exist. This means whole ecosystems would alter, eliminating some of the world's biodiversity. For example, many cattle used for milk and meat eat mainly alfalfa and lupins, both of which need to be insect-pollinated. With less food available to feed large animals, there would be less meat and milk production, so the human diet would change significantly.
>>697492245
please die
>>697501655
no u
are y'all fucking talking about bees
Born this way, asshole!
>>697493898
being depressed about an actual real life sad event is not the "disease" that is Depression.
But yeah /b/ro, on your side, not trying to be snotty.
these are ftms by the way.
so the pussy is their own but most of the time they get tits removed.
>>697502021
m'lady
>>697501536
Shit, you think we're going to have to wait 100 years for the next possible president to nuke someone? That could happen next year considering who's running.
Under that I don't want kids for a few reasons:
1. I want to live a life without being tethered to a leech for 18 years, possibly longer if the economy gets fucked up again. It's already difficult to raise a child with the current economy.
2. With the way the world is, overpopulated and over crowded with resources being more and more scarce, we don't need more people being born into this world than it can sustain. Considering my nation is ignoring the power of solar electricity and would rather deplete as much natural gas, coal and oil as much as possible to make a profit, there's no point in raising a child into such a bleak future.
3. If I did happen to want a child, I would adopt since the adoption system is one of the worst possible systems a child could be placed into. I'd rather save that life and give them a home than contribute to the birth of my own child.
>>697501547
I agree. There are multiple sources of sustainable, easy to reproduce necessary resources without further harming the Earth and other species, but we ignore it thinking we can get by without having them. People are greedy as hell.
for reference, ftms are born female. mtfs are born male, with dicks, and often are the traps you see.
>>697500002
Die you dirty gender bender piece of shit
>>697502640
/thread
>>697502640
Still retarded the 5th reason is the only decent one.
>>697488365
my brother used to follow this guy on insta, his insta is ahoychrispineda or something like that