Give me a legit reason why weed is still banned in most areas
>protip: you cant
Grown brain cells...
it takes money away from the cigarette and alcohol corporations
>>697333738
can cause schizophrenia. for me it did.
>>697333738
The govt wants you as brain-dead as possible. Alcohol is better at that in the long term. Plus mexicans
>>697333738
>cures cancer
Congratulations. Retards like you are the reason no one takes the marijuana legalisation movement seriously
>>697333738
weed is a gateway drug to stronger stuff
>>697333738
>non-addictive
the substance is maybe non-addictive but the effect isn't tho
>growns brain cells
i kek'd at this one
>>697334113
alcohol is even more so
>>697333738
People don't get retarded after one drink of alcohol. You can moderately drink alcohol all your life and be fine. But once you smoke people get all retarded like "hur dur weed is the best thing ever"
>>697333738
It takes away the government revenue from alcohol and tobacco since these 2 are Easy to regulate . Add far right propaganda of "too marijuanas will make u an hero & God is almighty "
>>697333738
agitates my BP-1, cause psychotic episode twice
>>697334178
no wtf
billions of normal normies drink
it doesnt lead to heroin or whatever, just alcoholism if abused
>>697334113
Why isn't alcohol a gateway drug then?
Weed isn't a gateway drug; it's a gateway crime.
>>697333738
theres no fucking reason or marijuanna to be illegal men
we got this shit from fucking religion and other mass controlling actions fucking banning cannabis saying its a drug and stuff fuck off
>>697333738
because its bad for you
t. the gov
>>697333738
Cannabis IS
>ADDICTIVE
>CAUSES FURTHER DEPRESSION IF YOU HAVE BAD MOOD
>IT ALSO CAN CAUSE LUNG CANCER
>YEAH SURE, ZERO DEATHS, DREAM ON
>NOPE
>YEP. BUT ALCOHOL DOES NOT DESTROY YOUR BRAIN CELLS.
Get ur facts straight faggot
>cures cancer
>grows brain cells
>>697333988
>>697334113
>>697334165
These.
Causes schizophrenia and/or anxiety. It did in me.
Gateway because of the stoner crowd. Most will do psychedelics, roll, or pain killers.
Also addictive. Most stoners try to say it isn't, but you get withdrawal if you don't smoke. Again personal experience.
Plus it cannot be regulated and taxed properly yet, so government can't make the money they want off it.
Whoever made this image doesn't understand what the word 'depressant' means in this context
>Cures cancer
Honestly fuck this argument, legalize it because it's someones right to put what they want in their body.
It just delegitimizes the movement as a bunch of scientifically ignorant kids.
>>697333738
First of all I agree with marijuana legalization but I disagree with a lot of these points.
1. Whether marijuana is additive is debatable. It's definitely possible to get addicted to the feeling of it, but maybe not chemically addictive like other drugs.
2. This point is true.
3. There isn't much data on this. There may be a link but we aren't sure yet.
4. ZERO DEATHS IN HISTORY?! Are you serious? Driving well high is still extremely dangerous and even if there aren't many recorded deaths, they still happen. There aren't many statistics on deaths because it's illegal.
5. I'd say this point is generally okay.
6. You can overdose but it's a lot more difficult. If you taking edibles it can be a bigger concern though.
7. I don't know where you heard this but I don't see how it makes sense. Also saying alcohol kills brain cells isn't completely accurate but I'm not very educated on the subject.
>>697334489
>get your facts straight
You should get straight, You fag
>>697334489
I can agree that it can cause death, but the drug itself cannot kill you. It requires so much weed to kill you that you'd probably die for asphyxiation before the drug actually kills you. Only a dumbass would die high
HURR DURR THE OTHER ONE IS MORE LETHAL SO THIS ONE SHOULDN'T BE BANNED
>>697333738
You're funny and a retard.......posts like this are not even good trolling.......On he off chance that you aren't a retard, I incidentally went full retard after smoking skunk for years, never been right since.....well done, now fuck off and kill yourself immediately ...
THC can trigger mental illnesses like bipolar and anxiety
>>697335162
you are also funny...how do you manage to see the screen to type with that cock in your mouth?
>>697334386
It was the paper and textile industries that got it banned, not religion. If you're going to be a faggot stoner, at least learn history so you don't look retarded.
>>697333738
Alcohol makes most people happy and do things
weed makes people zombies
Ok I support the legalization of weed but that's a complete strawman. Coming from a REAL cancer patient it only helps the side effects of the other drugs they use to treat it and it isn't a treatment in itself. Also while the people killed by marijuana is FAR less than alcohol it isn't zero. While marijuana isn't PHYSICALLY addictive like alcohol it is psychologically addictive (So is gambling, sex, fast food etc). and the thing about brain cells is patently ridiculous. If you're trolling then you've succeeded but if you really believe marijuana is a good medicine this strawman argument is bullshit.
>>697335842
Religion used by your fagot dick taking politicians fagot
>>697333738
why should i when i'm for full legalization for not only ganja but any drugs?
>>697333738
I almost legit replied.
>>697335044
You have an opinion yet you have clearly never smoked it . Go back to high school Loser
LSD is pretty much better than both.
>>697334489
>Cause lung cancer
>Has been shown to cure stage IV lung cancer
ok
>>697336673
>implying you're cool/expiranced/edgybtard only if you smoke da danke weed xD
>>697333738
I'm a stoner and citation needed for all your weed claims.
>>697335044
>4. ZERO DEATHS IN HISTORY?! Are you serious? Driving well high is still extremely dangerous and even if there aren't many recorded deaths, they still happen. There aren't many statistics on deaths because it's illegal.
If it hasn't caused a direct death from consumption / smoking than it isn't a death from the substance. If you go driving while completely high off your mind well knowing the risks, then it is your own fault.
Like we needed more evidence that stoners are fucking retards.
>>697333970
what is it trying to say
>>697333738
>Grows brain cells
>Cures cancer
>Zero deaths
>Saves police and NHS billions
>Non-addictive
B'okay
>>697336978
that hurt :(
Because the people who smoke it are insufferable cunts who can't shut the fuck up about how great it is.
/thread
>>697333738
Its only because it natural medicine and big pharma dont like that
>>697336486
The politicians and industry leaders pandered to the religious to scare them so they could gain some foothold. The religious being an excitable bunch bought into the propaganda, which helped spread it, but they had nothing to do with the idea that marijuana is bad, they just got scared.
Nigger I have smoked cannabis every day for the past three or four years, tell me again how it's not addictive?
>>697334322
alcohol leads to using cocaine in some cases
>>697333738
>dude weed is, like, not addictative at all hahaha
>what do you mean i slurred my word? i said it was not addicatative.....
weed kills brain cells. fuck off.
>>697333738
>non-addictive
>cures cancer
>>697337316
Nigger I drank water every day for the past three or four years, tell me again how water is addictive?
>>697333738
Dude Einstein smoked weed lmao
>>697337504
Thats bullshit.
>b-buh da weeds is addictive
If I can smoke it then not care whether I do or not the next day, then it isn't addictive. I've smoked on numerous occasions then just simply stopped for months. It isn't an addictive substance at all.
>>697337765
>Always go back to it even though there's literally no reason
Yeah, that's addiction.
>>697337579
not even him but thats straight up retarded argument and something only a stoner can give
>>697337579
Did you go the first 15 years of your life before you started drinking water?
>>697337422
and speed
>>697337951
>Literally no reason
Because it's enjoyable? By that logic, people play video games everyday for "no reason"
>>697337951
Actually I use it for medical purposes.
I have a bone growth in my foot that makes it really hard to work / walk. I only smoke it when I'm in pain, otherwise I do not. :^)
>>697338116
Or because they're in denial about their addiction.
>>697334680
I've been smoking for years and it calmed my anxiety down, I have no withdrawls when I can't smoke for days. Only addiction people make to it is a psychological one. It takes life times of smoking to kill brain cells. It was originally illegal to control minority groups and only reason it isn't legal now is because of big corporation and government can't regulate it correctly and get the tax they want. And as for gateway that's a personal choice, as a life rule I don't fuck with chemical drugs for recreation, only shrooms and weed.
>>697333988
This is bullshit, schizophrenia is a genetically inherited disease. I know, because I have three immediate living relatives who are all paranoid schizophrenics. My dad, my oldest sister, and my younger brother.
The only thing that smoking weed does is cause it to manifest sooner rather than later, IF you are already a schizophrenic but haven't shown any symptoms yet.
If you believe otherwise, then you either have a shit psychiatrist, or are off your meds.
>>697338205
A lot of opiate addicts started with a legitimate prescription for pain meds that they let get out of hand
>>697338273
That actually didn't make any sense, congrats.
>>697333738
Money.
Lobbyists for the privatized penal facilities keep bribing state and federal officials to keep marijuana a controlled substance in conjunction with state law enforcement wanting to keep it illegal for increased revenue from fines and court costs for those caught and convicted of possession.
The privatized incarceration corporations make billions paid to them by the states to feed and house inmates. The arrests keep the war on drugs prevalent and as such law enforcement can keep department funding higher than it normally would be without it.
It's a morally corrupt reason, but it's legitimate.
>>697333738
>non addictive
Incorrect - cannabis addiction is a recognized disorder in the DSM 5, and there is irrefutable evidence of physical withdrawal symptoms documented in animal and human studies of heavy cannabis users.
>anti depressant
Also a myth. While cannabis use may be a short term fix for individuals who are depressed, prolonged use can actually increase depressive symptoms. Also of note, cocaine is an "anti-depressant" for people addicted to cocaine. Any drug someone is addicted to or psychologically dependent on acts as an anti-depressant when you take it, but regulating your mood via drugs always has side effects.
>cures cancer
No.
>Grows brain cells
Also a deeply misunderstoof myth surrounding cannabis. Long term use causes a growth in certain brain cells, but this is a defense response to shrinking grey matter which is also caused by long term use.
All that being said, alcohol is much worse.
All citations can be found in:
Inaba, D. S., & Cohen, W. E. (2014), Uppers, Downers, All Arounders: Physical and Mental Effects of Psychoactive Drugs: 8th edition. CNS Productions, Inc.
>>697334489
>doesnt save the police/etc billions
Mate legalised states and countries are raking in huge profits from it while countries where it's illegal are wasting billions on trying to keep it "under control".
Ex-alcoholic here. Weed all the way. Alcohol is fun occasionally but generally a bad idea.
>>697338454
>Opiate addicts
>OPIATE
>Acting as if weed is an opiate
Welp, retard alarm has sounded.
>>697333738
Because niggers should never have it easy.
>>697338476
>btfo. better pretend like that was stupid
i wish the "weed makes you retarded" meme would end.
>>697333738
Cause its for children, faggots, niggers and old lamers.
>>697338662
Could you actually explain what you meant? Because basically what I got was you saying "they're addicted because they're addicted"
>>697337765
kek, well it's all well and good to say how it's not addictive, but at the end of the day, It definitely is, because when you smoke it purely out of habit even though the effects don't even really hit you anymore, then I hate to admit it, but it is addictive in some way.
>>697333738
Listen up you dumbfags, stop promoting weed as though it is entirely harmless.
It is psycologically addictive, do you know how many dumb fuck stoners I know who can hardly get out of bed without the shit, and fiend to no end when they don't have any?
Smoke inhalation of any type is fucking bad. That shit will cause cancer. So I know you will argue it is edible, and that much is true.
No you can't overdose, but you sure as hell can have some brutal ass panic attacks. It can bring out latent mental illnesses.
Fact is weed hits everyone differently, its great for some people, and helps people on a medical level.
But for fuck sakes, stop this 'weed is entirely safe' permafried thought process.
>>697338604
A drug is a drug, but keep lying to yourself so you can feel superior. You're only hurting yourself.
>>697334489
10 minutes of binge drinking destroys years of brain cells, what the fuck kind of research are you doing >fuckall.
And as for your causing worst depression symptoms I've been admitted to psych twice for suicidal tendencies and once I started smoking after that I've never had a problem with it again. All the shit you people are using against it is individual cases, mine are too but in the opposite way instead if negative
>>697338811
If your body doesn't go through withdrawal then it is not addictive. Some people have mental and emotional dependencies on weed, yes. But addiction is a chemical dependency that affects the body. You won't get sick if you quit smoking.
>>697335044
No, you can't overdose in the sense that it kills you. You can overdose on water easily however.
>>697338994
"Opiate" isn't a synonym for "an illegal substance"
>>697338999
>10 minutes of binge drinking
Does that mean one night of binge drinking destroys your brain for good? The fuck kind of a point is that?
>>697333738
It is a gateway drug in a way alcohol never will be, because alcohol gets you more rekt.
Also, it is addictive. It isn't as bad as alcohol, but it's up there. I've met a good few people with marijuana addiction. Dependency? Maybe not. But they sure were addicted.
It also causes immediate depression and paranoia. I know many people that avoid it specifically because of this.
As of yet, super stringent research hasn't been done. Should it be legalized? Yes. Does that mean we should spread misinformation? Absolutely not. When the general populace finds out you're lying (which they will) they're going to question what else you're lying about. Saying it's a miracle drug sets everything back.
>>697338806
You wouldn't be able to think that if you were sober. You say, they just smoke weed because it's enjoyable, it's the same as video games. I reason that maybe people just say that because no one wants to admit to being addicted to something. Do you really think people do heroin a second time just because it's addictive? It's addictive because it's enjoyable, that's why you do it again. And again and again. That's addiction. So smoking weed because it's enjoyable is addiction.
>>697339427
>22 people like this
>>697339284
Put. Down. The. Weed.
Fucking stoners can't keep up.
Opiate is drug. Weed is drug.
because not everyone chooses to be a dumbass
>>697339826
I don't even smoke because I freak out like 60% of the time.
And I wasn't even defending pot smoking. I just wanted to say that active substance in weed isn't an opiate because opiates are a class of drugs that are derivatives of opium.
>>697333738
because it'd be hard to regulate and tax something that can be grown by almost anybody.
>>697333738
>Non-addictive
>>697340797
Which had nothing to do with what I was saying.
>>697340825
Yeah but most people are not going to take the time, money, and effort to grow their own weed. They'd rather go to a dispensary to get the "professionally grown" shit - that can be regulated and taxed.
>>697333738
Everything wrong with this:
>anything can be addictive, therefore they both are
>Alcohol does not cause cancer
>If smoked, Marijuana can indeed cause lung cancer
>Marijuana absolutely does not grow brain cells, it kills them too, but at a slower rate than alcohol.
>>697333738
>Non-addictive
>Anti-depressant
>Cures Cancer
>Grows brain cells
Stoners actually believe this...
>>697333738
Im actually for the legalization of weed but come on dude, weed A) alleviates cancer symptoms, it doesn't cure anything, B) Prolonged use of weed over extensive periods of time destroys brain cells as effectively as alcohol does.
>>697341066
You're so right, that's why no one grows their own now.
>>697340977
Yes, but when you talk against pot smoking and you make such mistakes, potheads will use it to invalidate any previous arguments that may be valid.
>>697339826
>hurr durr put down the weed so you can make sense of my nonsensical arguments
Sorry, I guess pot encourages rational thought too much. We'll try to be more irrational so we can keep up with your insanity.
>>697341116
>alcohol doesnt cause cancer
you know it's linked to at least a dozen types of cancer right? not just liver.
>>697341238
He made the exact same argument that pill heads use after getting a prescription for opiates. Muh hurt muh use it for hurt muh not addicted. There's no confusion, it's a bullshit excuse used by addicts.
>>697341426
Sauce?
>>697341116
>Alcohol does not cause cancer
That's actually incorrect. Several cancers have been linked to alcohol abuse, esophageal and liver particularly, with the same amount of evidence as cigarette based cancers.
>>697334100
DUBS IS TRUTH
>>697341154
>Prolonged use of weed over extensive periods of time destroys brain cells as effectively as alcohol does.
You realize any claims made about weed by anti-drug organizations can pretty much summarily be dismissed as horse shit, right?
https://www.hgabmag.com/40-years-since-marijuana-monkey/
>>697341589
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_and_cancer
>>697333738
honestly Cannabis was banned for the wrong reasons but your list if full of bullshit of why its good
>Grows brain cells
Kek.
>>697341731
You realise you're a fucking idiot and what I just said was scientific fact right?
Cannabis
>Non-addictive
>Cures cancer
>Grows brain cells
You keep on believing that kid
>>697341754
I said sauce, not circumstantial bullshit made up by hippies.
>>697341878
Okay, then it should be easy for you to cite that, right?
>>697333988
Lol.
Educate yourself.
>>697334205
People like you make this life hard
>>697333738
The us fed gov't declared it a class 1 substance, making it illegal. There is your legit rea son as to why it's I legal still.
>>697341945
u mad son? just 5 seconds in google shuts you the fuck up
>>697334489
Dear Autists,
Here is a reputable source with actual facts from an actual doctor. This article is about the "brain cell" debate with marijuana. This website also has an abundance of other facts and articles. Read up faggots, get your fucking facts straight. http://www.drugpolicy.org/blog/does-marijuana-kill-brain-cells
Also, weed doesn't actually cause lung cancer, it's what people use to smoke it that causes cancer, papers, blunt wraps, etc. But the plant itself doesn't necessarily cause cancer and there are several ways to smoke that don't cause cancer and some that even eliminate carcinogens, using a bowl, bongs, vaporizers, etc.
Alcohol causes 7 types of cancer, including breast, mouth and bowel cancers.
Read more at www.cancerresearchuk.org
>>697342282
It really doesn't. There are no double blind studies there with human beings. Not evidence, just circumstantial bullshit.
>>697333738
I think Daniel Tosh said it best when he said he wanted weed legalized so stoners never had anything to talk about ever again.
>>697341945
I'd hate it if weed would be in any way legalized/decriminalized.
I'm making a fucking killing growing this shit. Fuck ya'll hippies.
>>697342496
>asks for proof
>gets proof
>starts to realize he's just been raped
>gets defensive
>>697342496
>double blind studies
Any time you wanna stop making a total ass out of yourself, that would be cool.
>>697333738
>non-addictive
>anti-depressant
>only "cures cancer"
>Grows Brain Cells
>>697342739
Please link the actual double blind study on humans in that hippypedia article, I think I missed it.
>>697342496
You're right - there have never been double blind studies with tobacco or radiation causing cancer either. I guess it's all circumstantial bullshit.
>>697342496
honestly there is 100's of published reports on carcinogens relating to alcohol they all say the exact same thing pal. you must be trolling.
>>697342916
Correct.
>>697333738
Republicans want it illegal because they don't like fun
Democrats want it illegal because they need the war on drugs to keep urban black communities fucked up enough that they'll just keep voting based on identity politics.
Libertarians get a bad rap so they can't get enough support
>>697342906
Dude you got shut the fuck down by like 5 people, you know it, and now you're just trolling to hold on to whatever tiny shred of internet dignity you have left. Just stop.
>>697333987
and pharmaceuticals. don't forget that.
>>697342955
There are thousands of articles on 9/11 being an inside job.
>>697343007
Did I? Or did everyone realize there's no actual proof?
>>697342906
please explain how a double blind study would make any difference in an experiment like this. how in the fuck would a double blind study make any difference in whether or not somebody gets cancer? are you actually autistic or just pretending?
>>697334100
Doesn't literally cure it but it has been proven to inhibit cancerous growth. Such as your post for instance
"More recently, scientists reported that THC and other cannabinoids such as CBD slow growth and/or cause death in certain types of cancer cells growing in laboratory dishes. Some animal studies also suggest certain cannabinoids may slow growth and reduce spread of some forms of cancer."
http://www.cancer.org/treatment/treatmentsandsideeffects/physicalsideeffects/chemotherapyeffects/marijuana-and-cancer
>>697343110
>>697343110
>comparing peer reviewed scientific studies to conspiracy hypotheses written by tinfoil nutjobs from mom's basement.
Shiggy. .
>>697343204
>did I?
You did. Yeah.
>>697334205
Please. People fetishize booze so much harder. From frat boys going "WOOOO JAGER BOMBS" to old fucks going "This is a vintage wine from 800 B.C. and uses grapes cultivated from the blah blah blah."
>>697343232
Because double blinds are the way the medical community confirms bullshit.
>>697343232
I'm pretty sure he's just 12 and used that term because he heard it used in reference to scientific studies before.
I think this kid might actually be Eric Cartman.
>>697343110
tiny bit of guess work says that most of that shit isn't supported by much of the scientific community
>>697333738
Cannabis
Causes anexity depression and paranoia, it is addictive ive known pot heads who couldnt function with out it. It probably is cancerous, kills brain cells. The only 2 you got right was how it would save and even make money for the goverment being legalized and taxed, zero deaths.
>>697343354
>the peers reviewing have just as much circumstantial evidence as a conspiracy theorist
>>697336649
Scared?
>>697343587
This thread was doing just fine without smug anime shitposting, thanks. You can go.
>>697343587
fuck off weeb. Your post was shit too.
>>697341878
>You realise i'm a fucking liar and what I just said was lientific fact right?
Cannabis consumption CAUSES NEUROGENESIS. Get the fuck over it, I'm sorry Nancy Reagan fooled you. Try some science some time.
Fucking moron lol
>>697333738
Alcohol has high barriers to entry
Cannabis has low barriers to entry
The cigarette and alcohol sellers pay good money to the government to keep cannabis illegal, as it's a thread to their billion dollar industry.
>>697344023
*An
>>697343600
Haha ok Mr. Scientist who has no idea what a double-blind study entails. I'll be sure to trust your expertise!
>>697343204
jesus shut the fuck up already. Just because you ignored the proof doesn't mean people following your argument did.
>>697343415
You literally do not know what "double blind study" means.
It's not always POSSIBLE to do double blind.
How the fuck do you have researchers not knowing the critical aspects of this experiment? And how does that IMPROVE the information?
Double blind studies are PSYCHOLOGICAL studies. Not MEDICAL studies.
>>697344023
triggered.
>>697333738
Because everyone in Colorado is insane and incurably addicted now, stupid.
>>697344173
Yeah, that is exactly what I expected. Fuck double blind, show me any experiment that actually forced humans to consume alcohol, or smoke cigarettes, for fifty years.
>>697342497
Daniel Tosh is a fucking idiot and I'm glad he's no longer relevant to anything.
>>697343587
>probably cancerous
>kills brain cells
So you don't have google, then? You can just keep Saying No, don't worry.
>my shithead retard acquaintances are garbage because of weed
>not just because they are anyway and happen to smoke weed
>>697344023
But it's not even an antidepressant - that's been established already,
>>697344154
Fixed ty.. long time didnt used english tbh
>>697340918
It's more addictive than alcohol because it's not shit
>>697344346
Okay, he's a retard but you don't seem to understand double blind studies either. The double blind method is used for placebo controlled drug studies, that way there's no bias on either side when assessing the affects of the drugs versus the placebo.
>>697344346
I know exactly what it means, and the reason you can't do these is because Germany lost the war.
>>697344468
Why would you need an experiment that "forces" people to do that when scientists have been studying tens of thousands of individuals voluntarily doing exactly that for the past 50 years? Do you have any literacy in science whatsoever?
>>697344533
I know one girl is shitty statistics but she was on hard drugs cuz of depression she got some MJ from doc... and well it helped her so lets say its w/e there might also be placebo
>>697344528
I never said they were garbage or related, my friend is very good chef but if he dosent smoke weed he is a mess. Thoughts of sucide, depression, he can not literaly function being sober any more.
>>697334113
This applies simply because it's illegal
If it is not viewed as a drug, it wouldn't be a gateway to other drugs
>>697344877
>depression and suicide
>addicted to antidepressant
Are you sure he wasn't just DEPRESSED, AND IT'S A FUCKING MEDICATION FOR IT?
>>697333738
Def doesn't grow brains cells and alcohol has been proven to only inhibit brain cells not destroy them. Still don't know why pot is illegal.
what a stupid fucking image
>>697343027
Dont forget the prison industry
>>697344877
>my friend is very good chef but if he dosent smoke weed he is a mess. Thoughts of sucide, depression, he can not literaly function being sober any more.
so what you're saying is that weed is treating his severe depression? lol
>>697344724
>and the reason you can't do these is because Germany lost the war.
No - not being able to double-blind a study like this has nothing to with ethics (although that is a factor) and everything to do with it being literally impossible. How do you get one group to "fake" smoking cigarettes or "fake" drinking alcohol? And how do you keep the researchers from knowing which is which? You literally have no clue what you're talking about.
I know you've been trolling this whole time, and that's fine. I just hope you're learning things :)
>>697344877
lmao you idiot.
because back in the day of hippies and gov't, the gov't were tons of alcoholics and the enemy at the time (hippies, groups, etc due to civil right, peace and love) were active pot smokers.
so in order to make their lives a living hell, the gov't decided to have weed illegal
>>697344533
>that's been established already,
Indeed. By independent researchers in a lab.
>>697344757
Because you have to force people that wouldn't have done those things normally, or just pay then. Otherwise you're getting a sample group of people that either already did that, or has no problem with doing it. Those people come from compromised families, and therefore are more likely to have said problems anyway, just due to genetics.
>>697334489
Kek this bait
>>697345029
Oh and we can't forget its contribution to voter suppression.
>>697345284
>Because you have to force people that wouldn't have done those things normally, or just pay then.
That's not a double-blind study, you idiot. The control group can't know that they are being given the drug. For the sixteenth time, you have no clue what you're talking about.
>>697344661
A drug trial isn't a double blind study.
It IS double blind. A double blind trial.
>>697345284
haha holy shit, you're special
>alcohol doesn't cause cancer, but being poor does
talk more about hippies. I wanna laugh more, I've had a rough week
>>697345284
>Those people come from compromised families, and therefore are more likely to have said problems anyway, just due to genetics.
Yep. Low class families have poor genetics.
... ... ...
Wait, are you hitler?
>>697345536
BOTH groups can't know they are being given the drug - but both must think that they are, that is.
>>697345089
It's easy, you fake smoking by giving them weed, because it's not in any way harmful. You fake drinking by giving them an energy drink, because it causes a mood shift like alcohol.
>>697333738
>cures cancer
there's no proof for that shit at all. yes, it helps with the cell's apoptosis mechanism but to go and say it cures cancer is just pure stoner bullshit
>>697345680
>You fake drinking by giving them an energy drink, because it causes a mood shift like alcohol.
Good almighty God in heaven, get out of your fucking basement. Go drink ONE forty oz. They're only a fucking dollar
>>697333988
>can cause schizophrenia.
this is debatable. The rates of schizophrenia are not higher in places with higher cannabis use which is what would be expected if it was the cause. There is evidence it can trigger an earlier onset of the disease in teens but that's not really a unique effect since other drugs used during adolescence can do this too.
>>697345680
Wow.
>>697345057
if im spending like 50k on weed annually I'll be depressed too
its not a cure, its a crutch
>>697333738
>Non addictive
>Cures cancer
Kill yourself.
>>697345536
I done gone and said fuck double blind, I said show me ANY actual experiment.
>>697333988
You already had schizophrenia, stop learning bad science from shitty doctors. They have no fucking idea what they're talking about.
It TRIGGERS schizophrenia. It CANNOT cause it. Schizophrenia is a HIGHLY PHYSICAL THING, neurologically speaking. Cannabis would have to physically alter your brain like fucking nanobots to give you schizophrenia. It simply cannot.
>>697333738
alcohol dont destroy braincells you idjit, ita a vasodilator, nigga, you really dumb, take pharmacology classes pls
>>697334281
This super specific casw should be enough to ban that demonish plant.
Also, alcohol made me puke once, it should be banned too.
>Addictive
Kek, if you get addicted to it then that's your problem. Don't be a faggot and have some self control cunts.
>>697338565
at-least someone here understands logic
>>697345811
I'm drunk right now, don't tell anyone. And if you'd never drank alcohol, you wouldn't know the difference.
>>697346029
You don't need "experiments" when it's been well-established in countless longitudinal studies over the course of several decades in all independent medical literature around the world, little guy ;)
>>697333738
Because its thought to be a degenerate drug, and it makes you lazy and stupid
>>697346306
>I heard that from people.
>>697333738
the fact is that alcohol is a unique drug. Its by far the most widely used longest used recreational drug in human history. In addition alcohol is a type of *food* being the only drug that has calories. Despite the undeniable cost of alcohol to society if one drug had to be legal alcohol would be it. If alcohol only came from one specific plant that only grew in one part of the world - it would be illegal.
>>697334322
Alcohol is a gateway drug, many people who drink alcohol go on to take harder drugs so it must be true.
>>697334205
>You can moderately drink alcohol your whole life and be fine.
Yeah, you'll live until the ripe old age of 50 and die of liver disease.
>>697338565
This is literally all bullshit, and it's incredible that you can write it in such long form.
>thc causes neurogenesis
>no you grow brain cells on count of ur brain lost em from smoking weed, dumbass
ultimately, regularly weed usage is degenerate
>young adult gets stuck in dead end job
>can cope because he has weed, feels no motivation to improve himself or to climb the ladder
its the same as vidya; it breeds apathy and escapism
>>697346450
You're more than welcome to do your own research, baby boy. In fact - I'd encourage it.
>>697346481
Alcohol isn't a drug.
>>697333738
And also, more bran cells is not necessarily good, in the cannabis case its bad, really bad... It fucks up the neuroplasticity, in another words, makes you more dumb and suppress your capability to become smarter. Holy shit this jew bait is so bat i dont even know where to begin, go fuck yourself, it dont cure cances and alcohol doesnt cause cancer, aahhhh!
>>697346556
>economy is because of laziness
Next, please.
By the way? EVERY FUCKFACE I KNOW goes home and cracks a beer after every day of work. "drown your sorrows" "crawl into a bottle"
Alcohol is famously used to avoid problems without dealing with them.
>>697346556
>its the same as vidya; it breeds apathy and escapism
Yeah so do videogames and 4chan. So fuck off with that shit.
>>697333738
come on weed's addictive af
>>697346640
I hope that's satire anon.
>>697346546
>This is literally all bullshit
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/nov/10/cannabis-smoking-brain-shrinks-increases-connectivity-study-texas
Kay little man.
Dat fake
-It addictive
-Dont cure cancer
-Many death in history
-Possibly death via Od
-Destroy grey structure in brain.
>>697346640
Its a poison that slows down your nervous system
>>697333738
this outghta help
hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/cannabis
>>697346726
This. The more bran cells you have, the more germ cells you need.
>>697346556
>its the same as soccer; it breeds apathy and escapism
>its the same as wooden-ball-in-a-cup; it breeds apathy and escapism
>its the same as socializing; it breeds apathy and escapism
>its the same as not constantly working your fingers to the bone; it breeds apathy and escapism
>>697335576
Sure it wasn't k2? I hear that shit was pretty popular in the uk
>>697346753
and dependence on drinking is degenerate too, retard
economy isnt the issue. The issue is it sapping motivation and ambition.
> EVERY FUCKFACE I KNOW goes home and cracks a beer
thats why they are fuckfaces and will never amount to anything in life. Weed is the same shit
NEXT
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>>697335162
Lets all just agree to disagree and concentrate on more important things like world peace and doing alittle LSD on the side
Because you can very easy create very tough cloth with it by yourself and the capitalists hate that
>>697334777
O detect some Stanhope there?
Can't but only because of my belief that drugs shouldn't be illegal in general. Personally I think stoners are insufferable.
>>697347088
agreed
>>697346561
Yeah, no. I'm not welcome to, neither was Mengele. That's why you live on circumstantial bullshit that your government tells you, and says it's science, when you have no idea how they got there.
>>697346968
>comparing wholesome activities like sports and social interaction to weed smoking
>this is what stoners actually believe.jpg
you smell like shit
>>697337104
>>697346929
Other points are debatable but its virtually impossible to overdose and die off marijuana
>>697346924
https://www.jci.org/articles/view/25509 Here you go, fuckface.
" Thus, cannabinoids appear to be the only illicit drug whose capacity to produce increased hippocampal newborn neurons is positively correlated with its anxiolytic- and antidepressant-like effects."
And beforee you don't even figure this out, because you never checked anyway: that's about HU210, not THC. Figure out why it doesn't matter, and hten get back to me.
>>697341945
There are 167 sources listed on that wiki article, including many studies by the scientific community. Read a couple of them, and then come back.
>>697346868
>drugs directly effect the function of the brain
>alcohol causes impaired function by limiting flow of oxygen to the brain
It's not a drug, just feels like it. Kind of like holding your breath.
>>697347189
5/10 total score.
You had a lot of responses, which is the goal, but then again, it wasn't really a "difficult" level of trolling - most people get passionate about arguments like this and love to argue, so it wasn't that much of an accomplishment.
Overall decent job, though.
>>697347041
>never amount to anything in life. Weed is the same shit
But anon, every SUCCESSFUL person does that too.
>>697347220
>Thinking hanging out with his friends is moral high ground, still calls me a hippy
Because green means go and sometimes you need to stop
>>697346858
actually there is little evidence that lab animals will self administer THC (as they will drugs like cocaine, heroin and alcohol). THC is not very addictive at all as far as drugs go , only humans seem to be willing to self-administer it.
Who gives a fuck about the fags that use. Just tax the shit out of it and pile up the money nigger!
>>697333738
Cures cancer.
You're a fucking idiot.
>>697346968
>wooden-ball-in-a-cup; it breeds apathy and escapism
truly the most degenerate of activities, we should give people who use thoughs lengthy prison sentences, or in the Philippines case just fuckin kill em
Shady corporations are making money from its prohibition and expensive cancer meds would lose out if weed was declared an effective cancer treatment. Its all about the money.
>>697347502
Truth hurts, doesn't it?
It dosent cure cancer but helps with the pain and is way less debilitating and addictive than hydros. Pot doesnt cause liver damage so yeah when you idiots speculate what pot does to you over alcohal you are killing your liver. Pot in moderation is a good buffer i love to smoke out in the woods on a trip, and guess what no hang over or yellow shit. Make you aurguments haters im a 420 blaze it tell i die.
>>697347535
>every SUCCESSFUL person does that too.
i can assure you bill gates never spent every day shit faced drunk on the floor at 5am in the morning
>think spending time with people you care about is a bad thing
DUDE WEED LMAO FUCK THAT SHIT THIS OG KUSH GOOD SHIT YO
>>697347088
This guy's got the right idea lads
>>697346561
>baby boy
>>697346924
>little man
Looks like someone has a little bit of a problem.
Someone short? Someone young?
And, by the way, this is how you insult someone: you are a piece of garbage that doesn't deserve the life bestowed upon you. You are a roach, an animal, below me; you should blow your brains out so they can do more good decomposing than cozying up in that garbage skull of yours.
anyone who uses alcohol or weed is human trash
>>697347381
Why doesn't it matter?
I already provided my source and this one you've provided in now way contradicts it. Marijuana DOES increase neuroconnectivity - in response to shrinking grey matter.
Because a) its the largest reason for incarnation we have and the for profit privatized prison system needs $$$ and b) it isn't monopolized yet. There are dozens of deals going on behind closed doors right now to who is gonna be dominating the market, there are investors and companies to think about doo
>>697347827
>Someone short? Someone young?
Short? Yeah, kind of - I'm 5'8'' but I'm comfortable with my height. Young? I'm 32. So depends on how you define "young."
>>697347652
Anecdotal I know but I know an old hippie who tried to use pot and natural medicines to treat her breast cancer. Her breast split open and she's dying now.
>>697347830
anyone who doesn't use logic and reasoning to support the beliefs is human trash
>>697348154
there* not the
>>697347535
some social drinking once in a while is fine
spamming that shit every other day rots your life
>>697347852
>Why doesn't it matter?
Figure it out and get back to me.
>>697347768
>i can assure you bill gates never spent every day shit faced drunk on the floor at 5am in the morning
>cracks a beer when he gets home from work
>shitfaced passed out at 5 am
What is a strawman?
>>697347768
>think spending time doing anything you care about is a bad thing
Yeah, it's pretty retarded, isn't it?
>>697348062
>I'm fine with it
>little man
>baby boy
No, I don't think you are, manlet. I think you're a manlet calling other people manlets because you're under the impression WE care.
We do not. Only you.
pic related: kaldorians; they're little people from a particular kryptonian city.
>>697348234
*their
>>697348379
thank you
>>697348375
Haha you're cute :3
>>697348375
>regular drinking
L2READ
I SAID DEPENDENCE ON DRINKING
WHICH MEANS IT BECOMES A HABIT RATHER THAN A HOBBY OR INDULGENCE
>>697348542
>i said
>that other anon brought up drinking when you get home, you were talking about weed
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>>697335640
Yes it can.
>>697346140
I think all drugs should be legal actually, I'm just saying it's not totally harmless
>>697348375
successful people generally dont have time to "crack a beer at home"
they are the ones working the 80+ hour workweeks
an hour you spend drinking is an hour you can spend to grow your business
being a wage slave is being a slave and the beer is the nectar that keeps your chains on
>>697333738
pharmaceutical sciences student here, shut all your pleb mouth now, i am goin to speak:
1. True
2. Just stop, i dont know even where to begin. Yes, alcohol is a CNS depressant and in high doses it leads to coma, and no, marijuana is not an antidepressant, it doesnt classify as one, it really doesnt and i think you are pretty confuse over what is an antidepressant
3. No, just no, both wrong
4. Yeah, pretty much
5. Yes for alcohol AND for weed, weed makes people crazy and stupid(low iq) in a hard way to manage
6. True, but i guess you are just repeating topic number 4
7. Alcohol is a vasodilator and it doesnt destroy brain cells, and yes, weed fucks the brain by making more neurons, this destroys the cognition and the mood. Remember, babies have more neurons than you, and they dont even know how to talk
>>697348652
i equated alcoholism to weed smoking
both are degenerate and for losers
case closed
>>697348773
>they are the ones working the 80+ hour workweeks
>Successful
>slave labor on 2 jobs
k ill c u later
>i work 2x as much as you and make 2x as much money, wage slave
Hmm, yep, checks out
>wage slave
>slave
>80 hours/168 hours
>you do nothing else but sleep eat and work
>wage slave
>slave
>>697347752
Weed cures Cancer!
24 yo cures inoperable brain cancer.
https://youtu.be/AysuFPXuhsY
Woman cures terminal stage 4 lung cancer.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=-hUoyXKf81c
>>697349043
>studies studies studies
>double blind
>degenerate
>stoner
>google it it doesnt cure cancer
>lol it causes cancer u retard
>rofl into science much?
The stoner crowd can become really annoying in where it seems they base their entire life on weed with loads of legalize shit and Bob Marley merchandise along with constantly talking about weed.
>>697333738
SUMMER SUMMER SUMMER SUMMER SUMMER SUMMER SUMMER SUMMER SUMMER SUMMER SUMMER SUMMER SUMMER SUMMER SUMMER SUMMER SUMMER SUMMER SUMMER SUMMER SUMMER SUMMER SUMMER
>>697333738
bullshit on grows brain cells, no deaths and cures cancer.
>>697349346
It's a better religion than Islam.
>>697349346
Most stoners aren't like that.
99.9% of people that drink alcohol are chill, drink only in weekends and partys or on a summer day. Some are abusive, agressive etc. but there's always a problem beneath the problem. They drink to forget
All stoners I know (a lot, dutchfag) are lifeless addicts that start to loose friends over time (except the other stoners). Lose their jobs or get shitty jobs way under their potential to fund their addiction. Though lots spend their time playing videogames and watching netflix while smoking their brains out. It is a real problem
also how does weed cure cancer you tin foil hat
>>697348881
This guy gets it.
>>697349016
>working 80 hours means you are on 2 jobs
>what is being self employed
>what is entrepreneurship
>what is having your own business
KYS
>>697348375
>No, I don't think you are, manlet. I think you're a manlet calling other people manlets because you're under the impression WE care.
>calling people X means that you are secretly insecure that you exhibit characteristics of X
You realize this is flimsy, outdated, elementary psychological horseshit, no?
In any event, "baby boy" and "little man" were never in reference to age or height, but to character and mentality. The thing is you're smart enough to realize that that's what I meant, yet dumb enough to believe I'd fall for your flimsy ad hominem (I'm giving you credit here - I HOPE you're smart enough to realize the metaphor behind those statements).
Care to try again, baby boy little man?
>>697333738
because you cant trademark a plant so theres no miney in investing in research of canabis for medical purposes.
The world is a fucked up place
>>697338427
This is almost true, if you smoke weed during early puberty then it can fuck up your developing brain and fuck you up big time later on
>>697348881
>weed fucks the brain by making more neurons, this destroys the cognition and the mood.
don't SSRIs generate new neurons too where it is supposed to be a beneficial effect ?
>>697350044
Yes you can - agricultural companies patent corn/wheat/rice strains all the time.
weed causes psychosis
>>697350220
>don't SSRIs generate new neurons too where it is supposed to be a beneficial effect ?
they don't generate new neurons.. They change the way the neurons act that are already there
>>697349016
>you do nothing else but sleep eat and work
where do you think successful people come from, you retard?
"oh mah gawd, you should like, enjoy life a little man, whats all this ambition and life goals you are speaking of??"
>>697334100
it doesn't straight up CURE cancer but it strongly slows it and stops it in most cases
>>697333988
Well you were broken before weed
>>697350232
yea, but that's a specific gmo vertion of the crop, not the whole plant all over the world.
Even tho they have a trademark on a specific gmo corn crop, you can still grow corn that is not gmo in that specific way
It's definitley addictive.
Many of my friends smoke for many years every day and if they don't get high they start to sweat, shake and become terrible moody people.
>>697336690
this
>>697350504
Well, yeah.
>>697350504
>vertion
I'm not the guy you're talking to, and I dunt care about the fight, but god damn. And that wasn't a typo, those letters aren't close. And it wasn't auto correct, because that isn't a word.
>>697350396
simply no. those claims have never been proved to be anything more than anecdotal
it kills cancer cells in vitro. so does vitamin c, bleach and .45 handgun.
yet noone advocates those as cancer cures.
>>697350578
but that's for a different reason, it's because of poor social relationships, not because of the drug itself. they could just as well have become addicted to biting nails for instance
compared to alcohol or tobacco weed isn't as dangerous, this is true, but relative danger isn't why those drugs are legal, its because they're so entrenched in western culture they'd be virtually impossible to ban. nobody goes to jail for weed possession anyway, at least in my country, all you're doing by making it legal is adding another dangerous drug to acceptable culture
>>697350789
phone
shit at spelling
how is it spelled?
>>697350879
forgot to mention; it most likely serves as their escape from reality, they probably had a bad childhood
>>697350992
Version
>cures cancer
>>697343233
So can bleach and antifreeze. What's your point?
>>697351121
that also kills you
>>697333738
Smoked it for over 20 years. So have a lot of my mates. Weed fucks you up eventually.
You'll see.
>>697351058
i realy dont got the -#ion words in english...
Is it a t or a s or a fucking q???
How do i tell?
>>697351121
Cannabis won't kill you.
>>697333738
>cures cancer
No, it really doesn't
>saves police & NHS
You do realise the UK isn't america, it would save america a tonne of money, but not us, since we didn't have the 'war on drugs'.
>grows brain cells
Yeah, that's why stoners are known for their good grades.
>>697351246
no but it can cause psychosis
>>697351222
It's complicated by design, so we can easily identify niggers.
>>697351197
what about vitamin c? vitamin c kills cancer cells in vitro.
why dont people say oranges cure cancer?
is it because things that happen in test tubes rarely happen the same way in the human body?
and why did bob marley die of cancer, if weed cures cancer?
>>697351447
people do actually say vitamin c cures cancer but they're talking bollocks too
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>>697351246
I meant to say stopping/killing cancer cells in a petri dish doesn't mean shit. Just because THC does it too doesn't mean it'll be remotely useful in the future until we figure out how to deliver the drug accurately and effectively
>>697351326
I agree. I haven't met a smart stoner yet
>>697351447
don't know about bob marley or vitamin c, and I'm not a native english speaker so I don't know what in vitro means, but I know someone who almost died of cancer then she started smoking weed and now she's 100% fine.
