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Why don't you own one?
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>>697261424
cuz im not an inbred redneck
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>>697261751
pussy detected
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>>697261751

So you're saying that having one of the most effective ways to defend you and your family is limited to only rednecks?
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>>697261751
Translations:

Too poor to afford a gun
I live in California
I live in Europe
Too scared to shoot some nigger in my house who's willing to shoot me
I'm 13 years old
My parents always taught me that guns were bad, so they ruined me
I'd rather get raped because I'm as big of a pussy as my well sized anus
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Cause owning over 60 is more fun...
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^^^ I'm in CA btw
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>>697262630
>Too poor to afford a gun
mossberg sells a 5 round .22lr rifle for ~$50
cooking for yourself instead of eating fast food 9 times will get you enough to buy that
if you skip 5 meals instead of eating fast food you can afford it
as for ammunition you can get .22lr for ~20 cents a round
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>>697263051
.22lr is more about 11 cents per round
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>>697261424
Because I'm not an aussie shit poster, fuck you I'm American, don't give me that upside down bullshit
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Domestic violence charge.
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>>697263051
this, go into fun shops to what is in your budget :)
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>>697263051
>Buying a .22lr
Save the $50
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>>697263384
I took it right way but it posted upside down !?!?!
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>>697261424
I don't know how to clean and properly maintain a rifle. Where should I start? I have a handgun but it's a Glock, barely have to do anything.
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>>697261424
Is that M14, or M1A?
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not enough money saved up. Going to get FOID soon and look for a mosin
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>>697263851
Wtf that went sideways. I'll post an upside down one and let's see if it goes right side up
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I kinda wanna buy a handgun but I just don't know when I'd ever use it
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>>697261424
Because I love on a college campus where possession of any gun is illegal (liberal state). Also, no money. Otherwise I would.
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>>697264112
Holy shit technology's fuckin with me tonight

It's an M14
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>>697264286
M1A Socom

M14 are slightly different.

Not OP by the way.
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>>697264286
Norinco m14?

Was thinking if I get my license that would be the one I buy. What's it like?
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>>697264286
It looks rather old. You know those original select-fire M14's are unreliable as fuck, right?
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>>697264245
Incorrect. Second Amendment > Any federal, state, or campus rules/laws.
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>>697264409
Op here it's an M14 shorty. The soccom are ever shorter
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>>697263051
>>697263367
>20 cents
>11 cents
holy fuck if you are paying over 7cents you are getting jewed, and that price is shipped to your door
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>>697263985
>barely have to do anything

wew lad.

I can tell you everything you need to know about firearms. email me at [email protected] if you want
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>>697261424
Because I own several.
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>>697264540
I've put at least 25k rounds through my select fire M14 over the last decade and I've cleared maybe 10 jams. All but one were cartridge feed jams.
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>>697264576
Why don't you come here and tell them that. Washington state. There's a statewide ban on possession of guns on any college campus.
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>>697264602
>1.35MB 3264x2448
>blurry as fuck
are you michael j fox or something?
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>>697264704
There is no way in hell you have a select fire m14
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>>697264501
It's an awesome battle rifle.
The recoils not that bad but it will still bruise your shoulder after 100 rounds
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>>697261424
because I own 30+
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>>697264704
That's good I suppose. They are notorious for muzzle climb when rapidly fired.
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>>697261424
Because I live in Russia
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>>697264540
Canada
No select fire
Semi auto only
Reliable as fuck
>>697264830
On my phone it looks fine lol
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>>697261424
But I do
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>>697264901
You should probably not make definitive comments on subjects you know very little about.
Decomissioned army M14s are literally the most common M14 sold to civilians. Of course, the select fire knob and the hammer lock are welded in place.
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>>697263985
Rifles are actually extremely easy to maintain as well. Most are not as complex as you might think
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>>697264901
Yeah even the military would remove there select fire and go semi only. To much recoil to hit anything on full auto
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>>697261424
I just clicked "save image" so now I do own a photograph of two guns. Thanks for posting! I feel super cool now.
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>>697265210
lol
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Britfag checking in.
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>>697264817
I don't have to tell them that, you do. It's your duty as an American to defend your rights against all who would strip them from you.
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but I do; unique
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>>697265393
The military only removed select fire when the M16 became standard issue. They used M14 on auto mainly for suppression.
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>>697265440
Like the meme gun?
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>>697265326
then they aren't select fire. They're semi auto only.
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>>697261424
i do
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>>697265468
That'll have to wait until after I graduate. Don't really want to put my future in jeopardy, especially since I'm 99.99% certain they wouldn't give a shit no matter what I said.
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>>697261424
Cuz, I live in the People's Republic of Massachusetts
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>>697261424
Cause I own closer to twelve
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>>697265646
The semi-only rifles are different than the decommissioned select fire rifles and have a much different value. They are not the same.
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>>697263051
Hey, genius, did you see that I was making fun of the nogunz faggot?
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>>697265412
Yeah but can you do this
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>>697266003
sry, it's my 1st day here.
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>>697265326
Nice try.

You can't bullshit a bullshitter.
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>>697264112
Hope your babby killing mag is pinned to 10rd cuck boy.
>>697264501
Not avil in the USA
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>>697265210
fucking PS90 lmao
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>>697265210
>Owns a bad ass PS90
>airshit red dot
dude.
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>>697262879
I would like to do shady stuff for you please
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>>697265458
Do you store it at the range? kek.
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>>697266204
>10
Try fucking 5 for rifles, 10 for handguns.

poor canadians
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>>697265593
serial number
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Why don't I own one? Because I don't have a small dick that compells me to compensate by owning weapons.

Or, because I have control over my life and don't need a symbol of power I can hold to make me feel in control.

Or, I don't live in a white trash/ghetto area where people think owning one is cool.

One of those reasons apply to YOU, gun owner. You're just not self-aware enough to realize/admit it.
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>>697266402
That's not even a UK legal pistol.

Google UK legal handguns if you want a laff.
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>>697266204
>Canadian
All centre fire semi auto pinned at 5
Full auto banned
Bolt action no restrictions
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>>697266114
Yeh, it's fine.
Just think about what you post.
And, what's the name of the ~50 dollar .22?
I already have a gun for range toy purposes and shit, a Marlin XT-22 7 shot bolt .22, but I wanna see this gun for less than 50 dollars.
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>>697266502
>facebook picture
loll
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>>697266316
Meh I'll upgrade it later. Just needed something that wasn't the iron sights
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>>697261424
because greedy bastards like you have 2
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>>697266645
I am a lazy cunt who doesn't rename files
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>>697266502
i detect that as lao, am i right?
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>>697266756
Thai
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>>697266666
CHECKDDDDD
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>>697265458
Home. It's on my desk now.
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>>697261424
ayy lmao pew pews
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>>697266865
>clearly never been fired
cool paperweight
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>>697266817
close
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>>697266840
HOLY GOD SHITTING IN JESUSUS MOUTH
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>>697266432
>>697266618
may trump have mercy on your souls.
>>697266666
I wouldn't go better than Primary Arms or Vortex. Unless it is your one SHTF grab the plates gun.
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>>697266721
Are you trying to say there are only two guns in the world and I own them both?
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>>697264640
I need to do the math
but I think at 7cents I would make money by stripping the lead from the rounds and selling it to a metal salvage company
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>>697266220
Refer to
>>697265611
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>>697266615
>>697266865
Legal for me. I'm special.
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>>697266945
Sup, TFB TV.
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DPMS Panther 308-LR TAC-20 here

(Stock image - I'm not digging it out of the locker.)
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>>697261424
I currently live in a country where there is no private firearm ownership.
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>>697267005
>Canadian
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>>697266945
>loading up on lowers
good man
>M92 PAP Pistol
huge piece of shit man. jam a lam. traded that shit for a norinco sks-m.
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>>697267125
I don't believe you.
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>>697261424
im 17 proly would if i could legally own one
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>>697267005
My thoughts exactly. The sight was cheap and gets the job done. I will prolly upgrade it down the line but if it ain't broke don't fix it
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>>697267200
Then may we help liberate them haha
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>>697267191
name country
what the fuck man
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>>697266945
That SBR ak is sex.
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>>697267053
your math sucks. lead is like 45cents/lb
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>>697267157
>DPMS
lol why
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>>697266945
Lemme guess... Arizona?
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>>697267191
South Korea
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>>697267191
There are currently no countries on earth that have successfully eradicated private firearm ownership. It may be against the law, but every country still has guns anyway.
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>>697267352
Replied to wrong post, see >>697267493
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>>697263051
Damn .22 is 20¢ there? That's how much .223 is here
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>>697261424

Because most people shouldn't?

Unless actually using the gun in some way is a hobby they're just a really expensive way of raising the odds of someone I know getting shot
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>>697262280
the pussy is the guy needing a gun kek
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>>697267429
You have dispersions you wish to cast?
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>>697264672
faggot ass kid memes smh
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>>697267575
yeah but do you like everyone you know?
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>>697267538
do criminals in SK have access to illegal firearms
like what the fuck
can't even own some shit like some gay ass single shot pistol
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>>697267486
nah midwest nigga

>>697267131
who the fuck is that?
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>>697266963
Yeah, paperweight.
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I use to own an M-1 Springfield rifle, just the base line one with a wood stock and a blued barrel. I sold it for a SCAR. Best choice of my life.
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>>697267739
no i already did.
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>>697264501
License?
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>>697267575
>Unless actually using the gun in some way is a hobby they're just a really expensive way of raising the odds of someone I know getting shot
Proof shows that in the USA firearm ownership makes you safer during a home invasion, safer during a violent mugging. They do however increase the risk of suicide, which is what 2/3s of all "firearm deaths" are. And obviously, they increase the risk of dying in a firearm accident but thats a no brainer.
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>>697267680
>have a knife
>someone is trying to fucking shoot my ass
>knife them!
>get shot in the head
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>>697267834
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnKbs5xffaEzzdKdPZvfhdQ
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>>697267872
Didn't think so.
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>>697264197
At a range
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>>697267836
how often do you shoot it? weekly? Or have you owned the same 2 rounds for it for years?
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>>697267836
How? If its illegal cool, but what the fuck license do you have?
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>>697267905
>they increase the risk of dying in a firearm accident but thats a no brainer.
>no brainer.
kek
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>>697261424
i not have money
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>>697268133
Well duh, people who don't own guns don't accidently shoot themselves. Just like people without cars don't accidently crash and die in a car accident.

Shit you not, the liberals twist these facts. This is no kek. This is common sense.
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>>697267575
Fucking this
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>>697268048
>>697268062
I put about 50 rounds through it once a month or so.

I travel to w Hong Kong every other week and I'm allowed to carry it, even on the plane and in HK under special circumstances from the past where my life is under constant threat of assassination because of an undisclosed profession.
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>>697268283
You forgot the women who weren't raped, men who weren't mugged and killed, and police officers who didn't die on there. But thanks for playing.

Protection from the state is just one reason for the right. Protection of self is the true cause.
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>>697262330
That gun is far far far more likely to kill you and your family than it is to defend.

http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/160/10/929.full
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>>697268279
was making kek about a kurt cobain type situation
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>>697268435
Nice, you are probably one of the handful of luckiest Brits and by far the luckiest traveler in the HK ever. Shame your fellow countrymen don't have the same right...then again as an elite you have a huge advantage lol.
>>697268490
Oh my bad haha
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Because I don't need to compensate for a tiny penis, you inbred redneck.
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>>697268472
Since the first gun was fired, guns have killed exactly 0 people. They are inanimate objects unless put into use by a person.

Beer doesn't drive drunk.
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>>697268435
cool story. didnt know 12yo gay tranny aids hooker was such a dangerous job.
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>>697268435
man I didn't know being a professional cocksucker was such a dangerous profession
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>>697268283
The medical profession kills 100 thousand or more every year. Should we ban doctors and hospitals?
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>>697268472
>Suicide
Human right m8.
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>>697268461
How about all the people that were needlessly gunned down in the streets, and the kids who killed themselves with their parent's guns, and the domestic violence victims

Seems you forgot about them
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>>697268472
It's better to have a gun and not need it then need a gun and not have it.
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>>697268705
>ban doctors who save far more lives than they take
>ban guns who's sole purpose is to kill and maim

Gee, I wonder....
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>>697268720
That map is incorrect. Alaska is way bigger than that.
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>>697268655
I included the link because it represents peer reviewed scientific research but I guess that is probably a little highbrow for this particular conversation.

Let me put it in simple words you might understand: If you have a gun in your house, it is more likely to kill you or a family member than it is to save your life. Science bitch.
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>>697267821
South Korea has one of the lowest crime rates in the developed world; sometimes I don't even bother to lock my door when I leave my apartment.

Guns are hard to smuggle into the country since the only land border is with North Korea, and there are strict customs controls at airports and seaports.
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>>697268720
most are niggers I don't care
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>>697268710
Read the article, suicide is taken into account. Still more dangerous to own a gun than not to own one.
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>>697268720
It's a necessary evil when you want to have freedom.

People can say terrible shit and post offending things on boards like this that have led to low self-esteem and people ultimately lighting themselves on fire or otherwise taking their life.

Should free speech be taken away in the name of security?
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>>697268754
You base that opinion on your own internal beliefs. I am sorry but statistical data says that you are wrong. It is not better to own a gun.
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>>697268686
It's hard out there when you you service very important people who really don't want it getting out.
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>>697269117
>Should free speech be taken away in the name of security?
yes, but only if freedom of religion is also taken away, they are fairly intertwined
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>>697269248
show me said "statistical data" please
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>>697269367
eat a dick
http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/160/10/929.full
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>>697268965
I feel the need to repeat this simple fact because you keep twisting words like some retarded child:
Literally nobody in history that has a gun in their house has every spontaneously been killed by their gun. Some homicidal human being does it. In the absence of a gun, knives are the next most popular weapon. It doesn't matter if you take away the guns, homicidal people are going to do their best to kill someone regardless of which tool they use.
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>>697269117
>Should free speech be taken away in the name of security?
That's exactly what they want actually
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>>697269248
Fuck you and go die from an alcohol overdose. Those kill 8k+ people annually like gun homicides. Bitch ass goe ass stank breath ass Brit cock loving Yankee
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>>697268837
The majority of those deaths are beacuse of mis-diagnosis of illness and incorrect prescription medicine prescription.

So guns owners are safer than doctors.You're 10 times as likely to die in a doctors care than being shot by a gun.
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>>697269315
People should have both. Like it or not freedom of religion, speech, and private firearm ownership ARE human rights in the USA. As codified by the US Constituion and over 38 State Constitutions.

Go back to your rainy socialist island if you like it so much
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>>697269367
Oh and by the way. This is what is called "peer reviewed science" it is the way in which we know certain things to be true... It is the system we use to develop and release new medicines and generally make your life better.
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>>697268720

The real issue is that some states have lenient laws and others do not. In states such as Tennessee and Montana where gun laws are extremely lenient the crime rates are very low. In areas such as Chicago and Detroit the gun laws are very strict, and crime rates are high.

If you could remove guns from Chicago and Detroit then you could probably reduce gun crime. That may not reduce violent crime, but it would reduce gun crime. However, that is impossible given that A.) There are over 300 million guns in America, maybe as many as 500 million B.) Confiscating those guns is practically impossible even if it wouldn't cause an armed rebellion and C.) While not ideal, allowing private citizens to be legally armed in those areas would likely reduce the death toll.

It is not a perfect solution, but it is the only workable one given the current situation. Guns are firmly embedded as a part of American culture, so it's best to roll with it and minimize the damage. The best way to do that is to allow for legal self protection, as gun bans have no basis in practicality.

There are more privately owned guns in the USA than in the combined militaries of most continents.
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>>697269117
In some cases, it is. You can't, say, go around inciting people to kill blacks or queers, or publish images of children performing sex acts.
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>>697269434
This is called a "strawman argument". Watch me tear it down.

So no child has ever picked up a gun and accidentally shot someone?
No non-homicidal has temporarily lost impulse control and shot someone they would normally not shoot?

Guns don't require homicidal humans.
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>>697269413
you could make the same argument for driving a car and the risk of motor vehicle accident death increase.
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>>697269627
>>697269798
>>697269467
How about the fact that the same amount of people murdered annually by firearms is equal to the number of alcohol overdose deaths? Or how in the UK and EU violent crime is higher and more people die from stabbings over there than gun deaths here?
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>>697269467
If a normal, everyday person was reading this argument and they read this as your response, who do you think they would say was right?
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>>697266502
Thai Army
Ser.No. 18158
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>>697269248
Hey if your scared, don't buy one.
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>>697270043
1. Show me proof that there is the same same amount of people murdered annually by firearms is equal to the number of alcohol overdose deaths.

2. Alcohol and overdose deaths are things that (generally) people do to themselves

3. The UK and EU shit. Fuck off. Veritably false (or show me the evidence).
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>>697270104
They would most likely agree cause a majority of Americans are gun owners and 2A supporters.
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>>697270170
Wow, it's like I hadn't already knew what everything on my rifle means
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>>697270212
I'm not scared cause I don't own a gun.
Scared people buy guns... Its like the main point.
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>>697269907
Homicide is homicide, regardless of intention. If a gun owner is irresponsible enough to have a firearm within the reach of a child, I believe they bear the majority of the responsibility for the outcome.
If you are attempting to blame an inanimate object for deaths, why not go after cars? Those things are involved in a shitload of human deaths.
And yes, people have temporary lapses in impulse control because people like you teach them that guns are scary. If guns were seen as a dangerous tool to do a job, people would be MUCH more responsible about having them. You wouldn't let a child near a table saw, maybe you should keep them the fuck away from your knives, chainsaws, guns, axes, machetes, etc too.
Dumbasses always make the news. Responsible gun owners do not.
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>>697270043

All very good points, but from his perspective the reverse is true. If you want to truly convince someone you need to try to see things from their perspective and address their concerns.

Rural areas have lower violent crime. States like Florida (LOTS of concealed carry, etc) have lower violent crime than states with comparable population density (Miami metropolitan area vs. Chicago metropolitan area). In fact the difference is so great that if you took out the top 15 most violent cities in the United States you'd still have 250+ million people and one of the 10 lowest crime rates of all nations in the world.

Furthermore this gun crime "epidemic" isn't actually that bad. Most people die from medical malpractice, heart disease, being fucking fat and getting diabetes, random accidents, etc.
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>>697270500
And the internet is only made up of Americans? Fucking typical American thinking. You realise that there are 7.125 billion people on the planet and only 318 million Americans right?
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>>697269413
89,000,000 gun owners
60,000 incidents
You have a %0.000148 chance of whatever your scared of.
Your just a pussy
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>>697270443
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-25671/Violent-crime-worse-Britain-US.html
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>>697270443

The problem is you're taking policies from one area and generalizing them to the entire continent. Florida, for instance, has seen massive success from their concealed carry program. Chicago, on the other hand, is a fucking catastrophe with very high crime of all kinds.
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>>697270623
See>>697270937
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>>697270861
Ha-ha Americans are the only ones who should be in our fucking politics
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>>697271045
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>>697270861
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>>697270861
300 Mil. the rest are Illegals.

There are 300 million Americans and an untold number of shit-flinging apes.
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>>697270937
>>697271169

You own a gun because you are afraid. You feel the need to protect yourself because you are afraid. I can protect myself without a gun. Who is the pussy?
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>>697270623
I own guns cause I enjoy shooting them. I don't spend $1000's of dollars to just keep them in my closet cause the guy down the street scares me lol
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>>697271217
Hmmm the CDC released a finding and the Brits release their own papers. Maybe y'all don't have guns because the recoil would knock those rotten teeth out.
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>>697271403
See
>>697271470
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>>697271403
Or because owning guns is fun and our duty as free citizens? I bet y'all wish y'all had guns with ISIS showing up.
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>>697270861
And, as the most influential nation in the world, American lives are easily worth 25x that of most other lives.

We are just a better country with superior ideas, superior inventions, superior arts, superior military and just overall superior badassery.
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>>697271470
But that is the argument you make when people suggest limiting your access to them.
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>>697271403
>I can protect myself without a gun
It doesn't matter what "navy seal black belt karate" bullshit you think you know. You will piss yourself the first time you hear the crack of a bullet that almost hit you.
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>>697271403
If you weren't scared of guns you wouldn't be anti gun
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>>697271403
>I can protect myself without a gun
Good luck going up against someone with literally any weapon in their hand, or a group of angry niggers

I own guns because I live in reality
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>>697271597
If America is so great then why are you all rallying behind someone who wants to make it great again?
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>>697271646
No our argument is this
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>>697271597
yea but your trolling is getting waaaay down son
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>>697271646
I live in Canada our access to different types of guns is already limited
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>>697271861
Its like talking to a fucking four year old.
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>>697271403
>You feel the need to protect yourself because you are afraid.

I protect myself because I live in reality. if you get in trouble how ever tiny the chance and you are outnumbered what are you gonna do? call the cops? good plan because don't worry when seconds count the police are only 10 minutes away.
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>>697271848
>all rallying behind someone who wants to make it great again


Not even close to a majority are rallying behind him and the ones who are, are only doing so because they realize how dangerous it is to have a woman in the White House.

They get so emotional and we can't trust a woman with our Nuclear weapons. If another country hurts her feelings she is likely to throw reason out the window, start crying and order a launch.
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>>697271698
If you weren't a closet homosexual you wouldn't be so homophobic.
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>>697261424
Not glorious mosin
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>>697267125
I have reported you to home office, chap.
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>>697271646
See>>697271698
>>697270937
/thread
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>>697272318
You're not projecting hard enough
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>>697272137
Not everyone knows what it's like to live in a free society where people control the government instead of the other way around. It's ok bro, maybe your country will get its shit together some day.
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>>697272137
Ik. But hey. To the Brits. We stopped listening to how you think we should live 240 years ago.
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>>697272151
It is statistically more likely that the gun you own will end up killing you or someone you love than you ever being in a situation (outnumbered or not) where a gun could save your life. I am quoting verifiable scientific fact here.

http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/160/10/929.full
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>>697270623
>I'm not scared cause I don't wear a seat belt.
>Scared people wear seat belts... Its like the main point.
>I'm not scared cause I don't get vaccinations.
>Scared people get vaccinations... Its like the main point.
>I'm not scared cause I don't get regular health checks.
>Scared people get regular health checks... Its like the main point.
>I'm not scared cause I don't maintain a savings account with 3 months worth of expenditures.
>Scared people maintain a savings account with 3 months worth of expenditures... Its like the main point.
>I'm not scared cause I don't keep money in a bank.
>Scared people keep money in a bank... Its like the main point.
>I'm not scared cause I don't look both ways when I cross the street.
>Scared people look both ways when they cross the street... Its like the main point.
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>>697266666
FUCKING CHECKED HAIL SATAN
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>>697269526
You have no idea what you're talking about.

I won't engage in an argument with you either, because you won't change your mind regardless of what I tell you.
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What good is it going to to against a tank?
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>>697272594
>the gun you own will end up killing you or someone you love
Guns have killed exactly 0 people, so... no.
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anyone know anything about getting a gun in canada? i'd be interested in owning a rifle and a handgun, if possible. do they track medical records? i have a history of anxiety and depression, would this affect my ability to get a license? i also post anticapitalist/antigovernment shit on the internet sometimes, could they somehow track this?

i'm not stoked about the idea of a registry or license or whatever (should be obvious by my political opinions)... am i better off just getting black market guns? if so, how might i go about doing that?
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>>697263367
WTF, I wou>>697264061
You can't handle a mosin, they were made for russians not skinny white boys. Get a .22 and save yourself the embarrassment.
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>>697272318
I'd fuck a passable tranny, but I still think two regular dudes fucking is gross
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>>697272854
Soldiers have to get out of the tank at some point

Also they might have a hard time firing the tank when you have their family at gun point
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>>697261424
Because it will end up in my mouth.
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>>697272871
>am i better off just getting black market guns? if so, how might i go about doing that?
Yes, in countries that are terrified of their citizens, black market guns are the only solution. They're really not difficult to find once you start looking. Befriend a few bikers, stay away from the "friends" that druggies have.
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Before checking out. At 18 I officially have superior firepower to most of Europe.
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>>697272987
That makes you gay. You are gay son.
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>>697273080
Yeah that's a good reason.
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>>697264197
Well, you don't know when you'll use a seatbelt or a fire extinguisher, either, but I bet you damn sure have them.
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>>697273173
Enjoy getting shot by the cops
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I do.
CA here
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>>697273253

what do you think he bought the gun for, genius?
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>>697272594
>Guns are used 2.5 million times a year in self-defense. Law-abiding citizens use guns to defend themselves against criminals as many as 2.5 million times every year -- or about 6,850 times a day.

50,000 per year in your study

one of these numbers is a tad higher than the other killer.
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A gay man today told me he didn't think his personal protection was his personal responsibility. He also said he would do anything to protect his son and husband.

He doesn't think people should own guns because there's no need for them and they're only used to kill. He's not my friend anymore after finding out I carry daily.
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>>697273173
Kek reverse search called it a "musical instrument" cause it's the sound of freedom!
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>>697273131

bikers around here are either scumbag speedfreaks or white supremacists, i.e., i want nothing to do with them

any other suggestions?
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>>697267905

Ya, but most people, myself included, can't exactly carry because of the places that I go during a regular day.

Not to mentions that the guns only worth a damn if you're not a retard; like 90% of the people I know that own them have no idea how to use theirs.

So I guess I might consider one if I lived in an area that had me worried about home safety and I had the time and inclination to squire and maintain the skills necessary to use them effectively. It's just not something that makes sense for me as things stand.

Just frustrating that most idiots treat them like some panacea to violence; they're a tool that requires a bunch of preparation and knowledge to be useful. Most people just don't seem to understand that.

Not heckling you though, seems like you've actually thought it out enough to make an informed choice.
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>Why don't you own one?

Because I already have a penis
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>>697273253
>>697273317
This man gets it! How old are you and how many firearms do you own? I'm in Louisiana so it isn't even registered. Just filled my ATF form and was gone.
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>>697273308
oopsie wrong pic
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my newest build. new stock in coming in this week
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>>697273534
You don't have to want anything to do with them, you want something from their friends. You live in a country where citizens are seen as property, you're going to have to put out some fucking effort to assert yourself man.
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>>697273322

Where are you getting "Guns are used 2.5 million times a year in self-defense. Law-abiding citizens use guns to defend themselves against criminals as many as 2.5 million times every year -- or about 6,850 times a day" from?
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>>697273561
Too much of a pussy to defend yourself. Hope your cell is fully charged else that nigga might get you before the cops arrive.
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>>697273205
I guess I am cause I'd fuck the shit outta Cassie
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>>697273988
Kleck and Gertz, Armed Resistance to Crime
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>>697268720
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>>697273353
Is that a fat pack of Magic Eldritch Moon? Lol what a fag.
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>>697274206
That doesn't even make sense.
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>>697274056
>Kleck and Gertz, Armed Resistance to Crime
A Twenty year old study based on telephone interviews?

It was discredited in the following paper. You need to read more recent research son.

http://home.uchicago.edu/ludwigj/papers/JPAM_Cook_Ludwig_Hemenway_2007.pdf
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>>697274206
>Switzerland: Requires mandatory military service and training in order to own a gun. Also mostly white and first world

>Mexico: 3rd world shit hole full of spics with powerful drug cartels, poverty, and easy access to weapons from the US

Nice try though
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>>697274580
My bro with a revolver cause we go shooting a lot
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>>697274023
nationwide average police response time is 9 minutes
and that is how long it takes them to get to where dispatch sent them, not the time it takes them to subdue any combatants

also
3 of the circuit courts of appeal (the 2nd highest courts in the US) have ruled that cops have no legal obligation to respond to a 911 call or to protect anyone
no circuit courts of appeal have ruled in opposition to that
tl;dr cops ain't gotta do shit to defend you
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>>697274708
That's great. Not sure how it adds to the debate but keep trying. You will get there.
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>>697274712
Exactly. And chase is a friend we didn't attack him
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>>697274206
>guns are banned
by that logic guns are considered banned in every country if there is any restriction on any certain type of gun.
>cant own an RPG or M61 or gun X in country Z?
Guns are banned in country Z.
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>>697274816
Cause it shows responsible gun owners trusted by their government vs brainwashed idiots who signed their right to defend themselves away because of 1 school shooting in the 90s
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>>697261424
Can't buy one legally and know too many cops
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>>697273550
You're a fucking moron elitist. Guns are one of the easiest things to use that anyone can defend themselves with. There are up to four buttons. Decrepit grannies have killed attackers the day after buying a handgun with no practice.

You're one of those fuckwits who got my state Senate to not pass a constitutional carry bill because you're afraid of people lesser than you carrying. Go fuck off you shitstain.
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>>697274580
Or he needs to stop cherry picking articles to support his ideological beliefs.
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>>697271586

ISIS uses bombs, and they typically don't check them at the door. Unless I'm using the gun as an active deterrent for literally anyone trying to get withing a hundred meters of me the guns going to do fuck all
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I don't need a false sense of security or masculinity
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>>697274646
the point the pic was making is that it isn't the guns that are the problem
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>>697275241
>know too many cops
you need to find better friends
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>>697275147
1 in the 90s...

http://www.shootingtracker.com/
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>>697274708
That a Taurus 66 or a SW 686+?
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>>697275489
I think the point was untrained fucked up people with guns are the problem
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>>697275318
>ISIS uses bombs

So the last few terror attacks in Europe were only bombs and not active shooters and hostage situations?
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>>697264602 m14s are select fire. M1As are semi auto
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>>697275495
I'm talking about the school shooting that happened in the UK in the 90s that caused them to ban guns. Just like Australia.
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>>697274712
>I can't understand court statements and just go with what my favorite YouTuber said instead.
The post.
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>>697261424
Because I live in Sweden. If I'd ever get a gun I'd get a Swedish Mauser ;)
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Because .308 is more expensive than 7.62x39. I still get ammo for my WASR for .13c a round
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>>697275630
There's no training necessary. Literally make gun operable and shoot it.
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>>697275588
SW 686
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>>697276023
Reload your brass holy fuck you ape.
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TO PEOPLE WHO REALLY KNOW GUNS ONLY

my parents own a mossberg 590(i think) shotgun. the red thing on top is showing, which means the safety is on. the pump is currently pulled back (toward the trigger), and it's been in this state for months. i've read about accidental discharges for shotguns, and i've read that keeping the 'shell' in the 'chamber' is not a safe practice

so currently, with the pump pulled back, is the shell chambered? and if i want to use it, should i take the shells out first and reload it, or should i push the pump forward and pull the trigger?

pic related
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>>697276220
Why? I can buy brass cased non-corrosive for cheaper than I could reload.
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>>697275871
You should have specified that you were in the UK earlier so I could avoid having to talk to you.
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>>697276293
**i meant red thing means safety is off
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>>697275713
Canadian M14 are semi auto
Full auto banned
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>>697276293
Christ I hope you're trolling

But no, it's not chambered and yes all you have to do is pull the slide forward
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>>697276353
Ha-ha my bad. I was replying to the self righteous Brit.
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>>697269817
It's not speaking to people or Distributing pictures that's the illegal part.
It's that inciting violence or riots is illegal just as child porn is. Cuck

That's like saying
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>>697276023
>13cents
but how much did you spend on your time machine? the break-even has to be atronomical
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>>697276345
>save lead
>cast bullets
>????
>Bang!
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>>697276293
>with the pump pulled back, is the shell chambered?
Is there anything in the chamber? You can look and verify that you know...

>and if i want to use it, should i take the shells out first and reload it, or should i push the pump forward and pull the trigger?
You should sell it since you are clueless about the operation of a simple pump action shotgun, and are going to hurt yourself or someone else

At least get some fucking instruction on it
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I support other lawful people's rights to own guns, I just don't own one because of personal reasons.

I don't get why other people can't think this way. Just because guns are legal doesn't mean everyone has to forcefully arm themselves.
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>>697276614
Heyyy. You can get Tul Brass for that much! Ha-ha
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>>697276345
Make more accurate and customizable rounds. It's cheaper. It's more reliable. You don't know what you're talking about fudd.
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>>697275279

Got to say that literally nothing about your post made me want to reconsider my stance. Good job?

As to being an elitist, I point out that I don't know how to use one safely, guess I just hate myself; not to mention that the two people I do know who have a fucking clue I met doing manual labor in uni, they're poor as fuck, dumb as fuck, and that doesn't have much to do with them knowing their shit on this subject.

You're an entitled little kid whose whining that you can't have your way. Grow up and fuck off
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>>697276023
I can get surplus .308 @ 20cents a round but factory ammo at $18 a box is still better then most other cals
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>>697276781
Not forcefully. We're not running around jugging people for guns. We go, fill out our forms, pay, go on with our life
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>>697276614
I got a guy, one of those who's been hoarding and prepping since Nam. I gave him three cases of MREs that our volunteer fire department was supposed to distribute after a hurricane.
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>>697276952
I know I think you misconstrued what I was trying to say.
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>>697261424
I'd rather have a pistol and a CHL (which I need to wait nearly a year for) , or a shotgun (which I might just get, cause if I ever wanted to kill myself, that's the most reliable way to ensure death).
A rifle is fucking useless, unless you plan on spending a lot of time in combat.
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>>697261424
Because whats the point?
For home defense I have a taurus judge public defender, and a remington 250 speed fuck chopped down to the shortest legal limit.
Whats a rifle going to help me with in the house? I cant conceal it. If i was a hunter cool, but im not.
Rifle fags are the worst. They are really cool but impratical for killing bitches.
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>>697276973
he's not a very good hoarder/prepper if he' selling his stock
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>>697276895
>Calls him entitled
>2nd Amendment
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>>697261424
Loggen's da best
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Because I was hospitalized for depression when I was 14 and they check for shit like that.
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