Thats it. I've had it with these candidates. Hillary probably only cares about being a woman president. She and the VP insulted Trump like children . And Trump is a fucking retard. So who are you voting for /b/?
The retard
Gary Johnson
>>697002134
I wish we could vote no confidence and force another election and a dissolution of Congress.
Bloc Quebecois
Might finally be the year I just leave the states, but I'm not voting for either one.
Seriously.
Either one gets elected and it's all over for us. Actually, any of the cadidates. They're all bad.
>>697002134
>She and the VP insulted Trump like children
>implying he doesn't do the same
>implying he isn't a child
>>697002134
Hillary, she's not a great option, but good lord is she miles ahead of Trump in the "not ending this country" department.
>>697002134
I'll be voting for Satan's girlfriend. As much as I've enjoyed Trump's destruction of the Republican party I just don't see him actually doing anything. He will surround himself with grubby idiots that will make the decisions and things will go to crap. Hillary at least will be actively making things seem nice while she makes things go to crap and then at least I can blame nobody but her and myself.
>>697002134
Probably Clinton. I'm closest to her in terms of policy, as you say Trump is retarded, Johnson is a libertarian so he's retarded by default, and Stein is straight up daffy. It's too bad because I'd really like to stick it to the DNC for rigging the primary.
Alternately, I'll vote for Stein since she has no chance of spending a day in office, and this seems to be he year to show third parties are a viable option by makin sure they get a larger chunk of the vote.
>>697002514
How's Ireland doing? Always thought that's a beautiful country and I'm not going to leave the Anglosphere.
>>697002767
This is probably the only year to hold off on the third party thing and make sure the melting orange man doesn't ruin the world. Save third parties for a time when both candidates are reasonably safe.
>>697002888
Nah bro, I live in Alabama. Zero chance the state will swing left.
>>697002767
This.
I forgot what the % is but it's like less than 10 to break the 2 party system. I honestly doubt that the majority of Americans even know there are other parties.
>>697002848
Not sure but will look into it
Thanks lol
It's actually funny because I still haven't decided from both of them. However, I despise Hillary with a passion. Fuck that bitch. I'm voting for Jill Stein at the moment. There's a chance she might not make it to the state's ballot on time. If she doesn't, it's time to Stroke the Johnson.
>>697002888
>This is probably the only year to hold off on the third party thing
I agree
>and make sure the melting orange man doesn't ruin the world
>Clinton
>Attempt coup in Honduras
>Stage coup in Ukraine
>Support proxy fighters to take down load bearing dictators in Syria and Libya
>Support 'Arab' 'Spring' thereby letting Muslim Brotherhood get a foothold
>Support KSA and their backwards system so they can continue to support Israel and sell oil in USD
>Flood Western Europe with a human wave of destitute peopels
>Kill nuclear energy
She already destroyed good portions of the world.
>Trump
>Ending proxy wars with Russia
>Working with Russia to stamp out Islamic extremism
>Putting stable strongmen in the Mideast
>Killing illegal immigration and amnesty in its tracks and building a southern wall
>Doing a Sino-Soviet-Split but the other way round- warming up to Russia at the expense of China so the EU, Russia, the Asian Tigers, and the US can collectively stamp out their anti competitive practices
Trump seems pretty solid on everything except civil liberties.
>Bonus:
He won't nominate SCOTUS justices that want to reverse Heller.
>>697003306
Please let this be real. If so I will die of laughter.
>>697002888
Fuck it. They're both nightmares.
>>697002134
Enough of these shills threads fuck.
>>697002691
> in the "not ending this country"
A country is made of people and laws.
The type of people Clinton wants to let in are vastly different from the type of people Trump wants to let in.
The Constitution that Clinton has no time for is the same one that Trump is beholden by his populism to uphold.
>>697002767
>Trump is retarded
Tell me when Trump was complicit in multiple regime changes in short period with no stabilizing force to back them up while those nations festered in chaos.
Tell me when Trump supported 'moderate rebels' and other unaccountable proxy fighters in shitty proxy wars against Russia, who later had their equipment and weapons stolen or bought by Al Nusra, Al Qaeda and ISS.
Tell me when he hosted sensitive government data on a private server in his bathroom and attempted to delete all his emails upon investigation.
>Johnson is a libertarian so he's retarded by default,
>Be successful moderate bipartisan governor
>Oh no, free trade, slightly decreased taxes and regulations, pro choice!
I don't even like Johnson, but he's not some villain or moron.
>>697002134
>>697002326
This
>>697004017
Tell me when trump had zero political experience and proposed policies that would literally destroy the economy (i.e. Round up and deport 11 million people). He wants to dismantle NATO, which is great for Russia I guess. Supports war crimes, wants to fuck his daughter, invites antagonistic foreign powers to hack US politicians. Dude is a train wreck. But you seem to be his demographic
>I LOVE THE POORLY EDUCATED
>>697004017
>Tell me when he hosted sensitive government data on a private server in his bathroom and attempted to delete all his emails upon investigation.
tell me when Clinton did this? because she didn't... why do people keep lying about the email thing - she co-operated, fully, her lawyers deleted private emails, not work related ones, when asked for the private ones she gave them the server to retrieve them - they got them back - the rest is just lies. republican talking point lies.
as for trump not having anything to do with American foreign policy in the last fifty years (lets be honest - the Bush war in Iraq started all this shit in Syria and the Arab Spring - hardly all clinton's fault) the fact is that TRump has politically clean hands because all he has ever done is feed his own ego and look after himself. he has no guilt about previous policy because he had no part in it. instead he leaves a wake of lawsuits (some ongoing - fraud and RICO charges among them) and bankruptcies and lies and deceit.
>>697005115
But we can't know what was on those emails - that's obstruction of justice, tampering with evidence, and perjury, at the least. Any normal person would be sent away for a long time at the least, but most likely they'd be executed for treason.
>>697005317
You sure they wouldn't be drawn and quartered you dramatic faggot?
>>697004784
>tell me when trump had zero political experience
Not only have we elected politicians with little to no experience in politics,
not only would Trump have an army of advisers and cabinet members,
not only does Clinton's political experience amount to death and destruction,
but are you arguing that someone with multinational operations had no experience negotiating with local politicians and no familiarity with the laws or economics of each jurisdiction?
> and proposed policies that would literally destroy the economy
>(i.e. Round up and deport 11 million people).
Eisenhower sure destroyed the economy with doing so writ-small.
No. Illegal immigrants use social services and commit violent crime at a higher rate than the host population. They furthermore breed at a higher rate, thereby creating 'anchor' citizens. They lastly make a mockery of the nation's borders and immigration system, effectively cutting the line for others. The cheap labor they provide a few employers is holding back automation and easily outweighed by other factors.
All presidents have participated in deportation. This is simply expanding its enforcement, and with congressional support to temporarily withhold appropriations from sanctuary cities, will become much easier The wall, build too high for ladders and too deep for tunnelers, with seismic sensors and sea-river-land-air patrol, will pay for itself.
> He wants to dismantle NATO
He threatened other NATO members to pay the expected share of GDP
> which is great for Russia I guess.
Great that you admit NATO was and is an organization designed for Cold War 'enclirclement doctrine' against Russia and to line the pockets of military contractors.
I'm voting Jill Stein, cuz she fine.
>>697005006
It's time we make our Queen our President.
Well since that hag has promised huge tax increases and to ban guns the only oprioon is Trump. Seriously are you kids so stupid you'd vote for a massive tax increase as bad as the economy is right now?
>>697003561
It is.
>>697004784
> Supports war crimes
As opposed to Clinton?
BTW the Geneva Conventions give no mention as to actions taken against those working with non-state terrorist actors. Terror cells operate underground while their families friends and associated operate above ground to recruit, spread propaganda, funnel and launder funds, and ferry messages equipment and weapons.
Their complicity in terrorist actions is well documented, as seem with UBL, and under GC can be targeted as belligerents.
>wants to fuck his daughter
Projecting your fantasies there?
> invites antagonistic foreign powers to hack US politicians.
The RNC was hacked too. Weak security measures invite foreign powers to hack US politicians
> Dude is a train wreck.
I have yet to read a competent argument
> But you seem to be his demographic
I'm a White male from a working class family- guilty as charged.
>I LOVE THE POORLY EDUCATED
Staff accountant, actually.
>>697005761
Republicans have no dignity or values.
And pride is the first of the 7 deadly sins you knuckledraggers.
This is why people love trump, because he unabashedly represents what the party has stood for all along.
>>697005796
kek
>>697005673
>not only would Trump have an army of advisers and cabinet members,
Exactly what I want, a child kind controlled by his cabinet. Bush 2.0
Hillary. She's wrong about everything, but she's wrong within normal parameters. Trump is a lunatic that would dissolve NATO because they don't pay their "bills". The security of the Free World is more important than Jew gold.
>>697005673
Plenty of evidence showing that sending the gestapo door to door to round up, detain, and deport 11 million people would not only tear apart families and drive up prices for many consumer goods and services, but cost more money than you can imagine or we can spend. just takes common sense to realize this.
Hillary fucked up everything she touched
>>697005875
>muh guns
No one is repealing the second amendment, please stay in your fallout shelter in November
>>697004784
Round up and deport 11 million people who don't pay taxes and have no right to be here, and are causing a massive net drain on the economy. It's been estimated that we spend over $700 million on educating the children of illegal immigrants.
He doesn't want to dismantle NATO, he believes that if the US is to be the bodyguard of so many countries, they should at least make it worth our while. We have nothing to gain from helping Europe for free.
He wants to stop Muslim immigration completely because their core beliefs are extremely violent - their holy book condones all-out war on all non-Muslims.
>>697006613
According to the Democrats we don't have to repeal the second amendment to ban guns.
>>697005977
You realize he said he wants to kill the families of terrorists, right? Find me an analogous statement from Clinton or prove that killing civilians because they are related to combatants is approved of by any international body.
>>697002134
>they insulted trump like children
Wait, and what has trump been doing since he announced he was running? Oh, the irony.
>>697002946
15% to get in the debates if this is what you mean
>>697005115
>tell me when Clinton did this? because she didn't.
"At a minimum, Secretary Clinton should have surrendered all emails dealing with Department business before leaving government service and, because she did not do so, SHE DID NOT COMPLY WITH THE DEPARTMENT'S POLICIES that were implemented in accordance with the Federal Records Act."
- State Department inspector general,
>she co-operated, fully
"Clinton and her top staff did not cooperate with the investigation"
"State Department technology staff said they were instructed to not talk of Clinton’s email set-up after they raised concerns about the unusual arrangement"
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/hillary-clinton-email-inspector-general-report-223553
>her lawyers deleted private emails, not work related ones,
The FBI has salvaged WORK and personal emails thought to have been deleted from the private server Hillary Clinton used while she was secretary of state, Bloomberg first reported Tuesday night.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-fbi-pulls-deleted-emails-from-hillary-clintons-server/
"To recap, Clinton’s private server was wiped clean —technically, filtering out emails older than 60 days — sometime between Dec. 5, 2014, and March 27, 2015. No clearer timeline has been stated."
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/jul/12/brianna-keilar/when-did-hillary-clinton-delete-her-work-emails/
Even though PF is more optimistic than not of what this window means
" republican talking point lies. "
I didn't realize that Comey, Director of the FBI, working under Obama, a Democratic president, who said
"To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions. "
Was a GOP plant.
>>697005977
>hurr durr projecting
"I've said if Ivanka weren't my daughter, perhaps I'd be dating her.”
Not to mention the comment about his infant's tits
>>697006630
>We have nothing to gain from helping Europe for free.
Are you developmentally disabled.?
>>697006543
Source on this claim, please.
Regardless of this, these people have no right to be here. In layman's terms, what the illegals are doing is comparable to living in an apartment without paying rent. They break in here, settle down, and expect us to support them without offering anything in return. They are not Americans, as much as Obama would have you believe, and we owe them nothing.
http://youtu.be/u1w4IxCXIxU
>>697007080
No, I am not. I am stating the facts. Europe has nothing to offer us but alliances and money - and as they refuse to give us the latter and expect us to be the force behind the former, we get absolutely nothing from them.
>>697006743
They actual did it in practice
>>697006630
Plenty of data showing deporting 11 million immigrants will fuck our economy not improve it. Investigate it if you're not afraid of learning how wrong you are.
http://www.businessinsider.com/cost-deporting-undocumented-immigrants-study-2016-5
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/03/the-conservative-case-against-enforcing-immigration-laws/387004/
>>697007080
I do so love how the left devolves into meaningless insults when confronted with intelligence.
>>697005977
>Projecting your fantasies there?
lol no
>>697006630
>We have nothing to gain from helping Europe for free.
We have everything to gain by protecting our overseas interests. America doesn't exist in a bubble.
>>697007425
>>697007494
>>697007392
I love when the right makes totally unsupported statements then proclaims themselves intelligent. Always good for a kek
>>697007579
Hillary
>Fought to get a man who raped a 13 year old in to a coma off because "it was her job."
>Stole furniture from the whitehouse
>Broke national security
>Knowingly destroyed evidence for an investigation by her.
>Was literally proven guilty of a felony and then magically not charged
>Negligence got several Americans killed.
>Mysterious death body count for people who whistleblow against Clintons is 48 deep. (not even exaggerating)
>Has changed almost every single political view she has this election year as soon as she needed it
>Proven rigged election in her favor
>Funded by banks and giant corporations
Trump
Said things that hurt peoples feelings.
Isn't well spoken.
4/500 of his companies went bankrupt.
Had his party elites working against him and still won by popular demand alone.
You're right, Trump is the worst.
>>697007642
>that recoil
Poor girl
>>697007689
>man who raped a 13 year old
You mean Trump?
>>697007593
I love how the left loves being lied to and is totally cool with them having a rigged election. We gotta keep these racist fear mongering democrats out of office for atleast a decade.
Trump
>>697002308
Yes. All the way baby.
>>697005115
>the Bush war in Iraq started all this shit in Syria
Clinton voted for it, Trump initially supported it and than became one of its earliest celebrity critics.
>and the Arab Spring - hardly all clinton's fault
Clinton and Obama used a combination of letting revolutions happen with no intervention, decreasing support for the strong-men in the regions we kept relations with for stability, and actively supporting some of the anti-government opposition,
Rice, Clinton, and Power push Obama into Libya:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/19/world/africa/19policy.html?_r=1&ref=global-home
There is also this
https://news.vice.com/article/libyan-oil-gold-and-qaddafi-the-strange-email-sidney-blumenthal-sent-hillary-clinton-in-2011
>he leaves a wake of lawsuits (some ongoing - fraud and RICO charges among them)
>Trump
>Dubious business practices
>Clinton
>Dubious business practices
>War crimes
>Administrative incompetence
>and bankruptcies
while 90% of his operations are and were running
>and lies and deceit
"with a cloth"
>>697007392
>right
>intelligence
pick one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E48QqcTOXeY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiFMts60ZIQ
>>697007438
>our overseas interests
Maybe in a democrat-run America, we have overseas interests. The fact remains, however, that we need to put out our own fires before dealing with someone else's.
>>697007689
>Has changed almost every single political view she has this election year as soon as she needed it
Is his a joke? She moved a little to the left, meanwhile Donald is flip flopping like a dying fish
>>697002308
You do realize your vote will just end up going to either Hillary or Trump, right? So...might as just vote for them or not vote at all.
>>697002134
TRUMP 2016!!!!!
>>697007941
Not if he lives in a solid red or solid blue state
>>697007941
This anon gets it. Electoral College will never vote for someone who isn't a major party nominee.
>>697007816
>War crimes
If Trump is elected he'll certainly try. He's already said he's for waterboarding and killing the innocent families of suspected terrorists. he's so out of it even the TOP military officer doesn't like him.
....or maybe all that tough talk was just more of his bullshit.
>>697006555
>Hillary
>liberal
>>697002308
Same
>>697007786
>b-b-but muh white privilege
>but muh Obamacare
>but muh religion of peace
>but muh unconstitutional gun control
>>697007884
>Hillary moved a little to the left
You're hilarious
>>697007884
No, it isn't a joke.
https://youtu.be/-dY77j6uBHI
>>697002308
Feel the Johnson deep inside you!!! GARY GARY GARY!!!!!!!
>>697002134
Wait, I thought she was already nominated. That's what the news said.
>>697008172
>unconstitutional gun control
are you a well-regulated militia?
>>697007777
>Literal case of proven rapist
>Defends Hillary with 0 proof accusation made over 25 years after it "supposedly" happened against a guy where people are literally willing to go to prison or die to stop because they got their feelings hurt.
Liberal logic everyone.
>>697008547
Yes she's been nominated. This thread is discussing the general elections - the ones that decide whether it'll be Trump or Clinton in the White House next.
>>697008547
Nominated by the party you stupid cunt.
>>697007689
>Has changed almost every single political view she has this election year as soon as she needed it
u wot m8?
Trump has done a total 180 on all his views just to pander to the only people stupid enough to vote for him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcUCLwWCihE
>>697004784
>I love the poorly educated
>hands up don't shoot
>>697007642
creepy as fuck, she's repulsed
>>697008605
That isn't a requirement, as interpreted by the Supreme Court. Source: District of Columbia v Heller, 2008.
>>697008850
>>697007730
>>697008605
Yes.
Are you retarded?
>>697006296
>a child kind controlled by his cabinet
You do realize that Obama was a 1 term Senator that let the Pentagon and intelligence agencies run circles around him, right?
Going back to the last Democratic president that was involved in major military operations, Johnson was fed- or knowingly bought- lies by his State and Defense departments about Vietnam and Cambodia.
Kennedy was wrapped around the Pentagon's and CIA's finger until the Bay of Pigs, after which he took a staggering amount of control of foreign policy.
> sending the gestapo
Law enforcement. People who enforce the law- using force. This is not creating new laws arbitrarily and unilaterally like Hitler did.
> door to door
Straw man. Many of these people can can and are be investigated through leaks by other people, or found in public, at work sites, during arrests for other crimes, or in connection to other suspected criminals.
> to round up, detain, and depot
The US already has a policy of rounding up, detaining, and deporting illegal immigrants. Most countries have and enforce such a policy- and many do so much more harshly. Some presidents may enforce this with less vigor, others with more.
>11 million people
4-8 years can provide an effective time frame, and support from foreign, state, and local governments may aid this
> would not only tear apart families
Let me get this straight
>Violate the laws of another country
>Bring kids
>Not worry that your access to said kids may be jeopardized
or
>Violate the laws of another country
>Have kids, automatic citizens
>Not worry about siphoning resources from that country, or that your access to said kids may be jeopardized
>and drive up prices for many consumer goods
The ones made in China or the ones made in Japan?
>and services
Landscaping and basic construction will be slightly more expensive, therefore the world would crash- the sky is falling!
This is coming from someone who mixed cement for $5/hr in high school.
>>697002134
Trump to me signifies a national direction unmarred by SJW pussification. He will also blow illegals the fuck out of here once and for all, which will drive up job wages across the board since now companies will have to pay citizens decent fucking wages to do the jobs they were paying Maxicans to do dirt cheap (AKA, "the jobs no American wants" because of shitty borderhopper wages)
I'm voting for Trump. SJWs and illegals can go form their own nation called FemininePeenystan somewhere else for all I care
>>697008877
>as interpreted by the Supreme Court
you better pray little donnie wins and gets that Supreme Court nominee
>>697008958
no, but you appear to be
>>697002308
He's got my vote
>>697008605
>Doesn't understand the amendment.
>Ignores the easily obtainable information needed to form an opinion on the matter.
>Makes statement the proves they have 0 understanding of the topic.
>Smiles and hits post, another internet argument won!
>>697009029
You do realize that Comgress can literally stall until the end of time with approving a new justice, right? There isn't any way around getting their approval.
>>697008475
For nearly 3/4 of a century, Americans have let the parties equate liberal to democrat party and conservative to the republican party, to the extent that today, hardly anyone in this country but philosophy & political science nerds knows what liberal even means, or what conservatives are conserving.
Now, Hillary is a conservative democrat, Trump is a wildcard, and hardly anyone can wrap their minds around what theyre seeing.
>>697006543
And you guys' solution is do nothing at best and naturalize them all at worst. No friendo. True Americans don't support creating a block of voters for the left just because of your feelings.
>>697006743>>697008068
>You realize he said he wants to kill the families of terrorists, right
Fun fact- Obama's drone strikes do that already. And their friends. And people who happen to live next to them with no connection to terror whatsoever.
I also explained the logic here>>697005977
>>697006880>>697007425
>Not responding to my other points
http://www.snopes.com/donald-trump-date-daughter/
>>697009231
What about true Scotsmen?
>>697009200
the key word there is "amendment".
Remember the 18th amendment? It make liquor illegal. Then the 21st amendment came along and reversed it. The Constitution was made to be changed. Remember that.
>>697009231
>Waaaah! Mommy, the mean man on the magic box said something I don't agree with! Now I have PTSD!
I want a Republican in office so badly but I just can't bring myself to trust this freak who stands for nothing. I'll vote Gary Johnson and I'll be happy with that and four years from now we'll put up an actual Conservative Republican.
>>697009295
>compares collateral damage intentionally minimized to intentionally targeting families
One targets terrorists, the other goes directly after families. Also never said I supported our drone strikes
>>697009449
Oh, sorry, I was unaware the second amendment had been repealed.
>>697009295
>Not responding to my other points
>implying your other "points" were worthy of a response.
>>697009200
>implying anyone who disagrees with scalias well-funded and extremely liberal interpretation of the placement of a comma, but instead studies the original culture and history of colonial murrica, the founders socio-economic concerns and philosophies over standing armies and national defense and civil unrest, is the one not understanding the amendment.
This is why it is only a matter of time, til the bounty is placed on your favorite toys.
VOTING THIRD PARTY = THROWING YOUR VOTE IN THE TRASH
This is a shitfest it all comes down to choosing the lesser evil.
ITT: trolls trolling trolls
>>697009543
It hasn't
YET
>>697009628
You just keep on waiting, then.
>>697009608
Not if you live in a solid red or solid blue state you dumb cunt.
I vote for Adolf Hitler!
Turn America in the Reich direction!
>>697009386
kek
Exactly
America used to be so great. What happened? It used to be the kind of country where you could buy a young buck negro with good teeth for $600, and pickaninnies for $100 each. Nowadays, employers aren't even allowed to lock workers in burning buildings, much less even own them. What has America come to??
Vote Trump to make America great again.
>>697009724
so Trump?
>>697009449
>Freedom of speech isn't a right, it's an amendment! IT'S UP FOR DEBATE!
Go home, North Korea.
>>697009582
>Ignoring the determination is over a comma and not the MEANING of the words when it was written.
You used to be able to buy and sell homosexuals because there's an old sign that says "Fags for sale."
>>697002946
It was 10%, until Nader made 10%, and the parties responded not by sending him an invite, but by raising it to 15%.
There will be no alternatives to the two party stranglehold on power, when the parties run the election process.
http://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/05/12/6-dumb-myths-cracked-belives-about-immigration/
http://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/29/hispanic-immigration-and-the-demographic-decline-of-america/
Check these out.
>>697009272>>697007372
>http://www.businessinsider.com/cost-deporting-undocumented-immigrants-study-2016-5
>But in addition to the incredible human costs and practical and legal issues surrounding the deportation plan,
Does not take into account public services usage and cost of damages, arbitration, and incarceration related to crime rates of them and their children and children's children.
>forcibly removing millions of workers would also be economically devastating,
Interesting, considering that the workforce participation rate is low, and those jobs can be easily picked up by others, while legal immigration from East Asia, Europe, and Nigeria may pick up slack as need be.
>The authors of the paper, Ben Gitis and Jacqueline Varas, said that based on an earlier American Action Forum study, the direct costs of dramatically expanding immigration-enforcement agencies and courts to deport roughly 11 million people would already cost the US government an estimated $400 billion to $600 billion.
Quoting the study
>Private sector employment would fall by 4 million to 6.8 million workers, and
This worker decline by itself would reduce private industry output by between $381.5 billion and $623.2 billion.
>Private sector employment would fall by 4 million to 6.8 million workers, and
This worker decline by itself would reduce private industry output by between $381.5 billion and $623.2 billion.
This does not take into account the fact that workforce participation is already low, inflated by the unemployed and those who stopped looking for work, who would then reenter the work force.
>>697007941
Third party candidates aren't cosidered wasted votes since they pull from both sides. The electoral college might fuck that up but it's already incredibly undemocratic and if another candidate wins by electoral votes, hopefully it's the last time they are ever used. Same with super delegates
>>697002308
Me too
>>697009839
>sir, they've discovered us! What are your glorious orders?
>>697009714
And your point is?
>>697009839
Nigger what were you even trying to say there, cause those words don't convey whatever choerent you had when you wrote them.
Clinton. She'll make things worse, but do it much more slowly than Trump will.
>>697009883
and when a 3rd party finally wins an election 50 years from now - it will be the new majority and it will have become the establishment, and have control of the election process and all of the evils that come with being part of the establishment will be theirs - and nothing will have changed.
>>697009449
You can't just repeal a bill of rights amendment. It takes a whole lot more than that
>>697010133
This
>>697002134
TRUMP ALL THE WAY BABY WE'RE GOING TO WIN IT BIG
>>697010305
Win what? What is trump policy appeal that makes you want to vote for him?
>>697009628
Remember the 18th Amendment? It was an abject failure, and also caused crime to skyrocket, which is why we have the 21st Amendment. If you think the present day US hasn't learned from its past mistakes and would allow that glaring embarrassment to happen again, you're either a massive pseudo-intellectual idiot (AKA your typical "high enlightened" Lefty) or you're underageb& and shouldn't be on this site to begin with.
>>697009883
>tfw you realize even 200 years after it was done being a british colony, most murricans still wish it was a 1 party state w/ a king blessed with absolute power and an official state religion.
>>697002134
a retard vs an evil bitch. going with the retard
>>697002401
Un bon Quebecois ca fume et ca vote Oui
>>697008022
then I think someone needs to get rid of the electoral college.
>>697010418
It's a popularity contest, policy has nothing to do with it. Trump is running for the privilege of having Putin piss all over him. Then he'll send Putin an angry tweet reminding him that he's isolationist.
>>697007941
>>697009608
>Vote for the same people as always or else your vote doesn't count!
This is why your country is a joke.
>>697007816
>>the Bush war in Iraq started all this shit in Syria
>Clinton voted for it, Trump initially supported it and than became one of its earliest celebrity critics.
>>and the Arab Spring - hardly all clinton's fault
>Clinton and Obama used a combination of letting revolutions happen with no intervention, decreasing support for the strong-men in the regions we kept relations with for stability, and actively supporting some of the anti-government opposition,
this is exactly the sort of shit I would expect.
Clinton voted for the Iraq war - yes. Lots of people did (trump would have, if he had been in service to the people, not just his ego at the the time) . Bush lied, and they believed. Did she ever change her view? (duh, yes...)
As for the Arab spring - this sort of analysis (Clinton and Obama deliberatley did not intefer in another country, deliberatley did not stop a popular uprising, deliberately did not prop up dictators) does have a ring of "I am ok with America fucking up other countries and imposing dictators" about it.
which probably means you like Putin, sorry, Trump, and won't mind when russia takes over Turkey and Syria...
or it suggests you think America had the power to stop the arab spring. Interstingly delusional, but the sort of thing Republican like to dream about.
either way - blaming a single person, even the SoS for all these things is simply wrong. It is a lie. a Big Lie, but a lie none the less.
It all just plane sucks. The candidates are just disappointing. I hate the etablishment so another Clinton is not likely ever gunna see votes from me EVER. and trump is flat out embarrassing. Everything about the existence of that whoreson reeks of shifty fuck face and high karate body spray. for me, it's a sad year to be American.
>>697009883
You forgot the part, that when they raised it to 15% so he couldn't get in, they also had the sheriffs dept work the parking lot at the debate to look for him and arrest him for trespassing if he tried to attend.
Which they did.
Welcome to "democracy".
>>697002134
Hillary = cares about Hillary
Trump = cares about America
>>697010418
Safer boarders
reform for immigration
getting the country out of the Obama administration gutter its in
making illegals LEGALS by putting them through a reformed due process
Stopping companies from outsourcing jobs so the american people have work finally
getting rid of welfare and making people work
showing our veterans some fucking respect for once
Finally being a complete ally to russia too
those are just a few of the reasons
>>697010520
>>697009020
Except trumps the biggest sjw there is. The guy sued the onion... Won't let media into his events. As for the immigrate issue, Obama has already deported more than the last three presidents combined. So no reason?
>>697010444
True, everyone wishes it were a 1 party givernment. Their party.
>>697010790
You only listen to trump don't you. Because Obama is already doing all of that besides the kick8by himself out of office. What's something specific you would change from Obama?
>>697010790
>Safer boarders
Tony Hawk for transportation secretary
>>697010994
Kek
>>697010970
>Obama is already doing that
Jesus no he's not
the man has put this country into a economic pit for his time as president
and plus I'd rather have a president who doesn't have a fucked failing 'obamacare'
plus I want a president that cares for AMERICA not about making america into what West Europe is turning into with the refugee shit happening
>>697010994
Better border control then what we have going at least
>>697007777
Waste of quads>>697007777
>>697010791
Except he never did sue the Onion, and this was back when shitty fagbait sites like Gawker and satire sites like the Onion were indiscernible trash. He NEVER sued the fucking Onion you loser.
Trump does let media into his events, this is patently false.
Obama laying a weak band-aid over the would without actually making the effort to apply pressure and stop the bleeding (AKA Trump's policy, AKA no it's not the same thing you dunce) doesn't amount to shit. The number of deported doesn't mean shit when they keep coming back, then burning my flag on my fucking soil.
>>697005317
Work on reading comprehension, "they got them back" you'll get it soon
>>697010861
But Anon, it is one party.
The whole liberals/conservatives thing is just for show, they're all ultimately controlled by the same group of people.
>>697011357
thank you, god damn
"hurr we need to be more progressive with stuff, no don't call them criminals they're just protesting violently"
and don't even get me started on how he's handled our military
>>697011252
Specifics anon. Obama care isn't the worst thing and it was a Nixon idea so in the end, Obama care is really an old republican suggestion
>>697011252
Obama put us in fucking limbo haze of shit. Shillary thinks we should continue to stay that course. I say she's stinks like poop
>>697011357
>Trump does let media into his events
He did revoke the Washington Post's credentials, not an insignificant paper
>>697002326
exactly
>>697011357
>>697011548
http://www.today.com/news/web-extra-donald-trump-previously-threatened-onion-lawsuit-t92681
He threatened. He is very sjw when it comes to anything that's about him. He's a very fragile little flower. Remeber when Rubio made fun of his hands?
>>697011252
>missing the joke
>>697002326
Well you could but you all are pussies who just want your bread and circuses so you'll never do anything serious about the daily assfuckings you get from a group of people you way, way, waaaay outnumber.
>>697011669
"YEAH I HAVE MADE A BOOM IN OUR ECONOMY HAHA IGNORE THE FACT THAT OVER 11 MILLION AMERICANS ARE OUT OF THE JOB BECAUSE OF ME"
a Hillary presidency is just going to be another obama presidency but with more shit being shoved down our throats and I would rather eat rocks then have that bitch represent my country
>>697011577
well as stated above, he's really done a number to the work force of this country
meaning our tax dollars are just paying for people to get by instead of being put to use somewhere else
we lost our AAA rating cause obama spends too much money on bullshit too
>>697011855
A man has an Ego
suddenly he's SJW
thats not really cutting the deal for SJW for me family. SJW's are more for that drivel called social justice and PC culture
>>697011962
I got the joke
but even still TONY HAWK would do a better job then what we have now
>>697009785
" where my country gooonne"
>>697002134
>She and the VP insulted Trump like children .
Trump literally called her Hillary Rotten Clinton
That's grade 1 tier
>>697011252
>Jesus no he's not
>the man has put this country into a economic pit for his time as president
>Blaming Obama for the 2008 GFC
Shiggy diggy
>>697010790
>Safer boarders
Wear a helmet fam
In my municipality it's the law
>>697012247
And the bill for the afghan & iraq wars lol
Cause obama made the decision to do all those things, years before he took office.
>>697009272>>697007372
cont.
>Moreover, we find that removing all undocumented immigrant workers would disproportionally affect industries that rely heavily on them. The industries most strained would include agriculture,
Increasingly automated
> construction,
easily picked up by members of the host population
> and leisure and hospitality.
see above
Low-income industries can be taken over by automation
>automatic towel dispensers in hotels, etc
the youth, unemployed, and temporary work visa holders can pick up the rest
It also mentions this
https://www.americanactionforum.org/research/the-budgetary-and-economic-costs-of-addressing-unauthorized-immigration-alt/
Which does not take into account areas which the apprehension-detention-deportation system can be cut and made more efficient, nor the costs of social services, emergency room services, and crime for them and their descendants.
>>697012089
He's a sjw for the right. He makes fun of people with handicaps and gets upset about when the media is mean to him. :'(
>>697011577
It was also authored in its present form by house republicans.
>>697012478
Tbh Obama wasn't a bad president, if anything he was average and tried to do what he campaigned on but was blocked by congress
I don't get the hate other than he didn't kill enough Iraqis
>>697012247
Cash for Clunkers
Tax increases
Blocking keystone pipeline and driving gas costs up
driving cost of oil up by restricting every company durring the BP shit
new regulations to buisnesses that cost 46 BILLION dollars a year
hes shit with our countries money family you cant deny this
>>697012570
And I want that man as my president because he actually can fix what these fucks have broke
>>697002134
Trump nigga
Bernie was our best chance. Now it's Donald.... Ffs
>>697012706
>Blocking keystone pipeline and driving gas costs up
Keystone was for heavy crude oil, not gas, and it really only benefited Canada
>>697009608
Exactly, I've been saying that, and anons just don't get it. It will either be Hillary or Trump, NOT A THIRD PARTY.
Fucking mentally retarded faggots around here.
Nobody is saying either is good - we are saying that you need to choose the lesser of two evils, I'd say that's Trump,
>>697012882
My bad - 8AM all nighter and im just mad
still however. He's not really helping any issues we have and trying to push towards worse tidings
>>697009608
>>697012706
What exactly is broken? AAA? For fuck sake anon... Is that all you got? Giving people money to get by is now a bad thing? That's the worst thing that's happening in our country? The one thing that will bring us to our knees?
>>697002134
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7I92r9GqUw
>>697003458
This.
>>697002514
Too bad the choices of where to move are a bit limited due to the immigration shitstorm in europe. Maybe Switzerland or the Netherlands, or Belgium. Or Australia.
>>697013283
>>697013283
Oy vey goy!
>>697009523
>>compares collateral damage intentionally minimized to intentionally targeting families
Nope. Obama knew that many 'civilians' were going to be killed, and held that the definition of 'civilian' should not include many assumed to have associations with said targets.
"Redefining ‘civilian
In its own major investigation, the New York Times examines the secret US ‘Kill List’ – the names of those chosen for death at the hands of US drones. The report is based on interviews with more than 36 key individuals with knowledge of the scheme.
https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2012/05/29/analysis-how-obama-changed-definition-of-civilian-in-secret-drone-wars/
"Obama embraced a disputed method for counting civilian casualties that did little to box him in. It in effect counts all military-age males in a strike zone as combatants, according to several administration officials, unless there is explicit intelligence posthumously proving them innocent."
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/29/world/obamas-leadership-in-war-on-al-qaeda.html?_r=1&hp#
>One targets terrorists,
And those operating under the guise of 'civilians' even though as family and friends we know they are used as accomplices
>the other goes directly after families.
Whole villages, terrorists, accomplices, and civilians alike
>Also never said I supported our drone strikes
If you're voting HRC, that's what you're getting.
>>697009562
>>implying your other "points" were worthy of a response.
I'll reiterate them for someone less disingenuous :
HRC is a known war criminal.
The GC give no mention as to actions taken against those working with non-state terrorist actors. Terror cells operate underground while their families friends and associates above ground in recruiting, propaganda, funding, communications, weapons etc. Their complicity in terrorist actions is well documented, as seem with UBL, and can be targeted as belligerents.
The RNC was hacked as well as the DNC.
>>697013090
>giving people money to get by is a bad thing?
No, but we don't need a third of the country living off the government
Hillary is all for letting in refugees and with what is happening in Europe im not keen to throw a vote towards my family getting killed by shit skins and radicals
I want Illegals to be made Legals through due process after its reformed instead of having open boarders, I want to be able to have a fucking job and work for my pay
Its not about the country being brought to its knees its about fixing the bullshit so it works like its intended to
trump has given the promise of what I want from my country and what I want to do for my country. HIllary has just proven to be a traitor and another Obama
>>697003458
It's almost as if the facts speak for themselves.
Better question
Why the fuck do we have super delegates?
It makes voting a complete waste of time doesn't it?
>>697002134
And this years presidential candidates are:
A confirmed Jew slave & a Jew slave
This year I vote Gary Johnson. When they put up an actual Republican in 4 years I'll vote for him.
>>697013928
>>697012089
Wait... So there's 11 million Americans looking for work? I know of about 11 million job openings coming soon.
>>697012879
>Bernie was our best chance.
Definitely.
>Now it's Donald....
Nigger what? How do you go from one of these two to the other? If you're a Bernie supporter, vote for Jill Stein.
>>697014054
over but
lets here it
>>697014021
The electoral college will decide.
Yes, they are supposed to go along with the majority of votes in the area they represent.
But in a voting system like this, our votes are merely suggestions.
>>697013278
Switzerland also doesn't want a lot of immigration. Soon it will become limited. Also, there already are too many (arab)immigrants in the netherlands. They just fuck everything up
>>697013310
This thread is now /pol/ normies & Jews get the fuck out
jill stein. bernie is a piece of shit who dropped his rhetoric out of fear for some orange piece of shit who wont win, jill is our last hope
Our new candidate
TRUMP 2016
>>697007642
Look at how quick her hand pulls back when he touches her hip area. I work in a behavioral clinic with abused children and they show the exact same motions when being touched like that. They're emotionally fucked and traumatized.
>>697004017
The country is literally dirt, rocks, lakes rivers, trees, plants and lakes and wildlife.
People and their laws come and go.
>>697002134
Trump at least cares about America.
Nothing wrong with building a wall. Here in Australia we have a border wall. It's called the fucking ocean. Borders work. Enforce them. Stop illegals fucking you over.
Hillary and gang want immigrants and cheap labour for their mega corps to make money. Any minimum wage increase goes to political and private sector.
She's a cunt, mates. Anyone can see that.
>>697002134
I'm voting for the Retard. It's gotta be better than the Cunt
>>697013523
Hillary is terrible, I'll agree with that but welfare is not a third of the country. Good stamps are the highest form of government aid and that's mostly for single parents. Otherwise it's mostly for the elderly beyond that. You know, the non working class. Too young or too old. Dont let the republicans fool you to thinking otherwise, they have most of the people in welfare anyways in red states.
Even if trump is an idiot, which I don't think he is, that can easily be fixed in a gov't.
Hillary will just breed corruption within the gov't, and that is much, much harder to deal with than some idiot.
>>697014548
Yeah, I'll bet you don't have a problem with mexicans swimming over.
>>697014656
>a puppet will be better than a puppet
how retarded are you?
you idiots don't realize how many illegals are already in this country not paying taxes kek.
I'm renting houses for my clients and all the applicants are like families of 7 from Honduras or some shit with no green card
>>697014619
im too beat dead tired to actually give you a proper debate over all this and im sorry
I'll still be voting for trump however as I know in my heart he will help this country
>>697014179
¿Que?
>>697014656
Oh yeah? Name a policy of his
>>697002308
me too, c'ya n november
>>697002134
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7I92r9GqUw
>>697002134
votin for bernie. dont care who they want me to vote for.
>>697014656
Trump is a good manager, which is all a president needs to be.
>>697002134
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ecEb4tEPic
TRUMP HYPE
>>697014832
>I know in my heart he will help this country
And liberals think with their feelings and shouldn't be able to vote...
>>697005796
>>697005006
lol
time to start making kimmy trump memes
>>697014862
Not that fag but can Trump even name his own policies?
>>697002134
Trump because he isn't corrupt and he doesn't want to invite 1000000 rapists into the country.
>>697014464
The whole family is beyond dysfunctional. There's like 9001 stories about how fucked up his father Fred was
>Fred would order steak. Then Donald would order steak. … Everybody order steak. I told the waiter, “I would like to have fish.” O.K., so I could have the fish. And Fred would say to the waiter: “No, Ivana is not going to have a fish. She is going to have a steak.”
Donald always did what his daddy told him, inside he's a frightened and submissive little boy who likes to send out angry tweets.
>>697014548
>Trump cares about america
So does hitlery. Hillary loves her own idea of what murrica could be someday. Trump loves his own idea of what murrica was once upon a time when it was a utopian fantasyland.
No one knows which is worse,bbut we're all about to find out.
>spoler: it's the one that gets forced into reality.
>>697014862
Wut. I didn't bring any policies into it, but if you must: Focus on investing in American economy and infrastructure, repeal and replace Obamacare, focusing on containing ISIS while minimizing effort, rebuild relationship with Russia, the Wall, etc
>>697014142
Because throwing votes in the trash is worth it.
Trump or Clinton will win, not a third party, learn politics faggot.
>>697015008
Its both emotion and fact paired with the fact that Hillary is a fucking snake in human clothing
and its not like voting third party will help any cause thats just going to throw the vote away
>>697003458
>Putting stable strongmen in the Mideast
So we overthrew Saddam and now we must reanimate him and put him back?
WEW
E
W
>>697015069
He's got most of them in full detail on his website.
His tax and healthcare plans are actually fucking awesome and no ones talking about them.
>>697014736
Trump doesn't seem to be the one to be a puppet, just an idiot at most. You can point to a shitton that Hillary has done that shows where her strings lie. Trump? Not really.
>>697002134
I vote for the crook... oh wait, they are both crooks. I am doing the thing every single one of you should do. I am writing in MY NAME!!!
>>697002308
His stance on private prisons is too extreme for me.
>>697015069
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LibRNYJmZ-I
The irony is you're a retarded monkey compared to Trump.
Call him stupid all you want. He's still 85 IQ points above the collective IQ of your inbred family.
>>697015232
who cares who wins. Either way the country is screwed. Vote for someone you live. Vote for YOURSELF!!!
>>697014503
>People and their laws come and go.
The people who live in France, Germany, England, Poland, and Russia are generally congruent with the people that lived there hundreds even thousands of years prior
Their ancestors had different views and values, and set up different governmental systems for their descendants and their guests.
The US operated similarly, and until 1965, kept immigration mostly European and opened the gates few times and far in between, giving enough time for new entrants to absorb the culture.
>Nations are social constructs
Yes. So are romantic relationships.
>>697015344
>You can point to a shitton that Hillary has done that shows where her strings lie
name 3
>>697014996
>dat toon
>everyone Ben Garrison hates...
>literally everyone in the usa but himself.
kek
Fuckin minority rule...
>>697002134
>Trump is a fucking retard
good one fam
>>697002308
Just b/c he has an (L) by his name doesnt mean he is good, in fact I disagree with him on his support for TPP and open borders. His tax plan is interesting however
>>697015069
>>697014862
You guys are fucking retarded. If you watch any of his speeches he says his policies. Don't you cucks have a bull to prep?
>>697002134
>>697002134
Giant Douche vs Turd Sandwich?
I've not been following, but I can only imagine that Bernie and the rest must have been fucking awful if this is what you guys have distilled your choices down to.
>>697002888
>>697002888
I disagree. If you don't vote for 3rd parties when it hurts the main 2, your vote doesn't do shit.
>>697015543
>>697002691
literally backwards from the truth
>>697014464
well stop touching them like that you sick fucking Clinton supporter.
>>697015360
You should vote for Hillary, she's a liar and a crook. You get two for one.
>>697015617
>>697002134
>Trump is stupid hurr durr, that Jamie Oliver Jew said so
>>697012706
Cost who?
Counting money that hasn't been made?
>>697015220
>repeal and replace Obamacare
Already shot down over 60 times
>Isis
Obama has already dropped 30k bombs on them
>russia
What's wrong with our current agreement with russia?
>wall
This is the dumbest idea ever which could be fixed easily by making companies do background checks
Germanfag here.
You USA guys are totally crazy this Trump becomes President....omfg what are you doing...
>>697007425
>>697007425
i love you daddy your "big hands" make me all tingly
>>697015251
Trump is no better. He screws over everyone he can says his ghost writer for art of the deal
>>697015815
We obviously have different opinions on whats better and whats not
>>697002134
http://pictureswap.herokuapp.com
>>697015540
You mean how he says things will be VERY GOOD AND FANTASTIC? Name a detail of you can
>>697004784
you're not very bright are you
>>697015460
>>697015460
If you don't hate every architype depicted in that image you are literally a fucking defenerate and should kill yourself! Sad!
>>697015251
>fucking snake in human clothing
why do people say this shit about her? 20 years of smear from the GOP.
>>697015890
No you are right. Hillary is terrible. But you have to say that trump is almost if not just as bad
>>697015751
Saving America you German cuck.¨
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMQkV5cTuoY
Now go be a cuck somewhere else, your ancestors would piss upon you faggot.
>>697002134
im with trump. hilary is just the worst possible human alive.
>>697015617
this
>>697002848
Come to Canada!
>>697016039
Stop posting.
>>697015751
Trump speaks for white men, anon.
4/5 of all white men in the us are of german descent.
These are your countrymen, removed from you by only a short boat ride and a generation or two.
>>697016091
shills
>>697002134
I'll vote for the 1 that not a commie. Anybody even thinking about getting comfy with Russia is a traitor in the making. Yes even worse than any bullshit server crap
>>697002134
Not hillary
I'm voting for Trump just so we can have a hot 1st lady. I don't want to see some white haired broken down old man as the 1st dude.
>>697010690
>Clinton voted for the Iraq war - yes. Lots of people did
>trump would have, if he had been in service to the people,
Probably, but he criticized it early on and would have probably set upon a congressional end to it
>Bush lied, and they believed.
Democrats from Gore to Bill and Hillary Clinton to Biden believed and spouted intel that Saddam had WMD even before Bush came into office, and suggested action.
>Did she ever change her view?
Far, far, far too late. Considering the warmongering happening in the middle east now, she switched support from an unpopular war with ground troops to wars no one knows about with unaccountable proxy fighters.
>As for the Arab spring - this sort of analysis does have a ring of "I am ok with America fucking up other countries and imposing dictators" about it.
The dictators were already in place and the regions slowly secularizing.
> (Clinton and Obama deliberatley did not intefer in another country, deliberatley did not stop a popular
uprising, deliberately did not prop up dictators)
I also mentioned in addition to the passiveness, the active role they played>>697007816
"decreasing support for the strong-men in the regions we kept relations with for stability, and actively supporting some of the anti-government opposition,"
" international actors influenced the first phase of the Arab Spring and, in several countries, defined it. In Libya, Yemen, and Syria, Western and regional powers in the Gulf played significant, even decisive roles. "
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/10/middle-east-egypt-us-policy/409537/
>>697015751
See this?
You used to be this.
gary johnson
>>697015960
Have you taken the time to read up and through her emails that have been graciously granted for our viewing pleasure?
>>697016008
thank god we agree on that
but even that smidge of difference between them makes trump the better candidate in my eyes man
I don't want Hillary as a president
I want someone who likes their country
I just want..... america to be great again
and even if he cant make due on what he promises in his 8 years it'll still be better then what Hillary will put down for us
>>697002134
kek ate women voting for hillary because she is a women.
>>697002134
Man you americans are fucked
trump all the way.
>>697002600
>implying it's acceptable behavior in politics if they started it
>retard child detected
>>697015738
Nah, Obamacare hasn't even attempted to be replaced, I have no issue with UniversalHC, Obamacare was just poorly orchestrated. Idk if Trump was UHC or not, but either way except this middle of the road bullshit is fine with me.
And has allowed many refugeees, whom have a completely seperate culture to thaat of the west, to literally invade Europe. Perhaps more attempts at containing the flight was needed
It is currently falling apart? Hillary's relationship with Putin is absolute shit.
Agreed, I meant it more as a metaphor for illegal immigration control.
>>697006630
Where the fuck does it condone war on non-Muslims in the Qu'ran? It specifically says that if your opponents - Musim or not - want peace in war, you give it to them!
>"But if they incline to peace, you also incline to it, and (put your) trust in God. Verily, He is the All-Hearer, the All-Knower." S. 8:61 Hilali-Khan
Read the text you're critiscising, you ignorant fuck, and don't attempt to make such sweeping generalisms about a religion of 1 billion people, which you clearly don't know the first fucking thing about.
im voting Trump. Killary can go fuck herself. all my friends and my family will be voting Trump. and we are mexican.
>>697016257
Trump has yet to say anything that will make America great again. Not a single line or sound clip. He says he is the candidate of law and order but wants to break laws the world has decided on. He flips on every issue and you can't actually grasp what he wants. Because it's everything and both sides
>>697002600
Trump is taking the high road atm
I gave Clinton the benefit of the doubt, but she's a crook. I will vote for Donald Trump.
>>697002691
She's got a track record for ending others.
>>697010690
And more
http://www.alternet.org/world/how-us-created-mayhem-rest-middle-east
>Egypt
Egypt has long been one of the world’s biggest recipients of U.S. military aid, second only to Israel.
Source:
http://www.state.gov/t/pm/ppa/sat/c14560.htm
When el-Sisi came to power, the Obama administration briefly withheld aid, but in March 2015 restored the full $1.3 billion a year it had slated for the Egyptian military.
Source:
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-egypt-military-idUSKBN0MR2GR20150401
In fact, in 2013 when that army overthrew elected President Mohammed Morsi of the Muslim Brotherhood, President Obama took care never to describe this action as a “coup d'état,”because U.S. law would then have prohibited any military aid to Egypt. "
Source:
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-egypt-protests-usa-idUSBRE9621HH20130704
#Trump2016 and #shillaryforprison2016
And..
Well?
http://www.strawpoll.me/10863443
>>>/biz/1410933
>>697015751
Kill yourself faggot.
Germans aren't men anymore.
Im on the Trump-Train! Choo-cHoo!
>>697002848
Slowly turning in to new mecca
>>697016570
>Trump has yet to say anything that will make America great again
wanting ILLEGAL's out of your country to come back as LEGALS is a good thing
wanting your country out of the economic failure that is the Obama administration is a good thing
not wanting droves of refugees into your country to cause shit is a great thing
stopping big companies from outsourcing their work to put jobs back into America and getting rid of Welfare are good things
I dont know anyone voting for Hillary.
Trump
>>697003306
O shit whadddap
>>697016039
<cringe>
>>697016733
I'm voting Trump :)
>>697015907
You are being a fucking child at this point.
>Build wall
>States decide minimum wage
>in favor of 10 dollar minimum wage
>wants to stop setting up democracies in sandnigger countries
>wants to colaborate with Putin (unlike cunt hillary) to take out ISIS
Most of /b/ is now a bunch of cucked normies, who have pretty liberal views, but have been fucked so hard by life and the very values they believe in that they come on /b/ to be edgy and let off steam. SAD!
Maybe if you could take your eyes off of the media for a bit, you would not be such a cuck
>>697016733
Go suck foreskin blood sub-human.
My vote is for Donald Trump. Same goes for my wife
>>697010690
>Yemen
How about U.S.-supplied missiles and cluster bombs delivered by the Saudi air force? Washington, of course, long ago made Yemen part of its battlefield in the “global war on terror,” using “kill lists” to send drones to pick off al-Qaeda terrorists (who might well turn out to be Yemeni civilians shopping for supplies to celebrate the end of Ramadan or getting married). Now, the United States has rushed to support Saudi Arabia’s intervention against the Houthis in the country’s hydra-headed civil war, providing munitions, intelligence assistance, and even mid-air refueling for Saudi bombers, while a naval blockade of the port of Aden has helped shut off supplies to the country. Seven months of sustained Saudi bombing, violence, and food and fuel shortages have helped displace more than a million and a half Yemenis
Sources:
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/08/19/us-official-saudis-have-used-cluster-bombs-in-yemen
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/14/obama-secret-kill-list-disposition-matrix
https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/sites/default/files/death-drones-report-eng-20150413.pdf
http://www.tomdispatch.com/blog/175787/tomgram%3A_engelhardt,_washington%27s_wedding_album_from_hell/
http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-us-yemen-20150817-story.html
>Libya
No comment needed, it was a NATO op.
>>697016733
<3
Trump.
>>697016779
Germans are just a shell of their former selves. They have no sense to preserve their culture and heritage. Let them kill themselves because it's what they want
>>697009628
Good luck with your life as a liberal sheep. Here are a few things to get you started. You also might want to take a civics class so that you stop embarrassing yourself.
>>697002134
I'm in a state that will go for Trump so my vote doesn't count in the electoral college. I'll go Green or Libertarian, at random, chosen when I go into the voting booth.
We did it /pol/, it is now the degenerates of society tha are anti Trump! What a time to be alive!
How can anyone vote for Hillary?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LYRUOd_QoM
>>697010690
>Syria
First support for the FSA
" On October 9th, the White House and the Pentagon admitted that the $500 million program to vet, train, and equip moderate fighters in Turkey and Jordan to be sent back to Syria had been an abject failure. "
Source:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/10/world/middleeast/pentagon-program-islamic-state-syria.html?action=Click&contentCollection=BreakingNews&contentID=52475465&pgtype=article
Then for 'moderate rebels'
" The Obama administration’s new strategy, reported the New York Times, is “a revamped program that briefly screens Arab rebel commanders of existing Syrian units before equipping them with much-needed ammunition and, potentially, small arms,” as well as, it turns out, TOW anti-tank missiles."
Source:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/13/world/middleeast/syria-russia-airstrikes.html
"On October 12th, the U.S. airdropped the first 50 tons of ammunition to these rebel groups, who presumably have been distinguished from the Islamic State, the al-Qaeda-linked al-Nusra Front, and other extreme outfits by those “brief” screenings. The official U.S. position on Assad himself remains that his leaving power is a prerequisite for any peace settlement, but the Obama administration prefers to frame its intervention as a battle against the Islamic State."
Source;
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/12/politics/syria-rebel-groups-ammunition-50-tons/
>>697017030
Jesus Christ am I actually retarded for thinking this is common sense?
>>697016733
Go prep the bull cuck
>>697017074