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If you're not able to run away (lets assume being fat, or being slow), and you can't use a knife because of legal implications, what is the most effective way to protect yourself from being beaten up when you're just walking around town? Lets say you ran into the wrong person..

Also, this is *not* assuming you don't want mma training or to be some great fighter.
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one of those hardened plastic walking canes with a ball on the end,.
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Or if you were to run into a gang of niggers..
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Win the fight.
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>>695970680
pepper spray, run.
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gun
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>>695970680
Its called a monkeys fist. Its a ball of rope with a knot on the end it will fuck you up.
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Strip right in front of them
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A gun...

Mace and run is a good second though.
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>>695971161

*without* legal implications. Cops would obviously be involved
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I'd say taser/stun gun. Or if you really wanna get fancy, one of those pressure point sticks
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i used to carry one of those tellescopic batons, got to use it a few times.. works best on knees
>that crack noise
good times
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Tactical pen.
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Drill a hole into an egg, empty it, fill it with finely crushed glass, plug with a little duck tape, coat egg so it makes the shell a bit harder to carry around with, someone comes up on you crack egg in ur pocket and throw that shit into their face, they breath it in and they're fucked especially if it gets into their eyes as well, in the end they'll have glass everywhere on their face, make sure you have gloves to crack it in.
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>>695970680
No, deadly force can not be used to prevent minor assault. It can only be used in cases where you fear serious bodily injury or death.
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>>695970872
>carrying a cane around all day just in case you get attacked
Autism
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>>695971857
Isnt that the piece of shit with the worlds worst lock picks inside of it?
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>>695971947

What in the fuck did I just read. Sounds like a 12 y/o imagining a 'practical' weapon.
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>>695970680
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>>695971947
you can do this with any container
why use a fucking egg
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>>695971947
http://media3.giphy.com/media/TyPydeCmjKQ2Q/giphy.gif
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>>695972089
Its a weapon that was actually used by assassins in china and japan, hard to notice in your pockets and easy to use, called black eggs idk the "proper" name anymore
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>>695972227
>posting an image url
>being this new
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>>695972178
don't ask me wasn't my invention but feel free to improvise
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>>695972086
No it's just an aluminum pen
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>>695971317
you said knives lol what if i was allowed to carry
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>>695970680
Sadly you can be arrested for beating someone's ass regardless of the reason or tool of choice nowadays. The justice system is fucked,and everyone is a pussy. You can really only hope some chimp doesn't shoot you or beat you to death with his 80 friends on their way to their safe space. Make sure to cripple as many of those prices of shit as possible in the process though.
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>THIS
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>>695970680
Bike lock and chain. Most people wont look twice at it and cops cant bitch.

Tactically it gives you reach and the ability to snap it down with your wrist for extra damage dealing.
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I scared of 6 people because I had a knife and could take a hit, so it works if you aren't in murka
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>>695970680
Pocket sand, shishah
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>>695971595
>in a fight
>"hold on, let me put my gloves on"
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Tie shoelaces/sock/plastic bag to a padlock and keep it in your pocket, keep your hands in your pockets at all times to avoid suspicious hand movements.

Keep your keys in it so that you can take it apart in your pocket in case of cops. It's not illegal to have a padlock or shoelaces/socks/bags in your pockets.

Do you have any idea how much it hurts to be hit by a swinging padlock?
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>>695972713
I didn't actually stab anyone just knocked some teeth out with the butt of my knife
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>>695972593
that'd hurt like a bitch
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>>695972744
>wear them while on a walk
Retard
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>>695972744
Why wouldn't you be already wearing them? They cook cool and shit
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>>695970680
gun
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>>695972174
"Hang on, let me tightly wrap these coins in a note.. swear i'll only be a second"
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>>695971317
>can't use a knife because of legal implications

fixed

just use a gun.
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>>695972827
would catch the string immedietly, rendering it useless
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Step shut pants step 2 reach into pants and scream step 3 blind attacker or attackers with said shot step 4 start to cry uncontrollably problem solved
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>>695972994
what? just keep a roll in your pocket genius
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>>695972879
>wearing fucking chain mail gauntlets on a walk
The autism is strong with this one
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Water balloons full of nitric acid?
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>>695972994
You hold them in your hand while you punch you fucking autist
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>>695973077
Might fall apart though
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If you have a car key put it in your fist with the metal part sticking out from between your fingers, punch and aim for the eyes/nose/throat.
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>>695972931
What if you are cooking hot?
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>>695972994
Why do you need to wrap then in a note? I've hit someone with a roll of quarters before and they were out by the second hit. Sure the roll cracked open but how many hits do you need
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This.
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>>695972003
This was a fucking badass scene. I love riddick
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>>695973144
And your point is?
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nunchucks
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>>695972593
still considered a weapon if you use it to attack someone, you dip.

if thats your argument then you might as well just walk around with a katana.
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>>695973156
Police will tell you this is a terrible idea because you will likely hurt yourself more than the attacker
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>>695973085
>Chain mail
Kek I smell summer
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>>695973155
Do you know what coin rollers are? How fucking old are you its made if cardboard sometimes plastic. Go outside and live you fucking weebo
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>>695973184
Then you burn them
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>>695973253
Fair enough.
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>>695973085

OP asked for something, we are providing answer, even if they are indeed autistic.

But tbh, depending on the country and the time of the year, wearing gloves isn't suspicious.

Bike gloves could also work OP. (gloves + helmet if you wanna kill people actually)
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>>695973276
My point is you're autistic
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>>695973399
>Hitting levels of autism that shouldn't even be possible
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>>695973068
What do you mean catch it?

It's a swinging mace, a favela favorite. I'm not saying it's perfect, but it's high-damage.

Besides, someone really skilled could stop any of these attacks. This is for hoodrat bashing, not for a fair fight.
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>>695973342
And you could break your car key
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asp baton
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>>695973351
Your telling me you'd wear those walking around the city? I'd fucking jump you just to fucking beat the shit out of gauntlet guy
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>>695970680
Concealed carry.
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>>695973298
If you're that much of a mouth breather that you don't understand how the self defense laws work in whatever shit hole op lives in then shut your fucking yap. If you have physical marks on you from someone hitting you have the right to respond with appropriate force.
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>>695973463
My point was how are they going to be kept together in your pocket, it would take a little bit of time to get them all together in your hand in a straight cylinder. And i'm pretty sure you arent gonna waste some super glue to wrap the note around the coins.
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>>695973559
No I wouldn't wear those cause I can actually defend myself.
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>>695972039
nigger he said he was fat and slow. its only a matter of time before his fat hips and fat knees go.
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A roll of quarters. Hold it in your hand, squeeze it hard, making a fist around it.

Your punching power is multiplied.

From there, just pick a spot to hit. I recommend something soft or full of nerves, like the ribcage just under an arm, or the kidneys.
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>>695973559
And thus was the fedora wearing superhero known only as "gauntlet guy" born.
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>>695973639
No one fucks with you if you have an m1911 strapped to your belt
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>>695973455
You'd still be in a fist fight. The other guy lands one sweet hit before you get one your out
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>>695973644
>you're that much of a mouth breather

So you breathe strictly through your nose?
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>>695973559
They're just GLOVES, they're fucking weighted gloves. How is that so hard for you people to fucking understand?
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>>695972593
This seeme like a really good ides
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>>695973676
They come pre-wrapped in the paper you fucking moron just keep your hand wrapped around it in your pocket then pull out when you need to punch.
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>>695970680
Learn how to breath fire, carry that shit with you everywhere, breath fire on your enemies, become local legend among neighborhood thugs, don't rob the dragon.
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>>695973342
How could you hurt yourself more than the attacker when the force distribution is focused in the pointy end which you're ramming into someones eye/nose socket?
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>>695972994
Go to the bank and ask for a roll of quarters you fucking autist.
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>>695973513
im sure you can deal some damge if you have the right range and opportunity but if he gets too close and blocks the string it self with his arm it would just roll over his arm and you'll lose it probably to his favor
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1. roll up magazine
2. stab under opponent's nose
3. stab opponent's throat
4. profit
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>>695971977
If you present a gun all you have to say is he tried to take it from me and I feared for my life.
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>>695973918
God you're stupid. Tell you what, do it and come back here and tell us all how it went.
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>>695972879
>if you buy these gloves, you'll be able to protect yourself if you happen to get attacked while going for a walk
Very useful
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>>695973890
>just gloves
>weighted
Do you even try? What goes through that tiny brain when you say retarded shit like that?
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>>695970680
understand how to leverage your hard spots (giggidy) such as elbows, knees, palm of hand, the brow over your eyes, places with sharper bones and places connected to powerhouse muscle groups. Move to disorient, hit sensory spots like eyes, ears, nose, mouth. Strike organs closer to the surface of the skin; genitals, kidneys, throat. You do not need to be strong to inflict debilitating pain. THE MOST KEY COMPONENT, SHED YOUR FEAR of your enemy, you must be more organized than them. You are a planned target for them, they already have a leg up on you, your panic is what they are betting on
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Expandable baton
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>>695970680
dirty fighting moves, like kicking/punching the nuts, biting, thumbing the eyes etc etc
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>>695973918
Because the keys provide no stability between your fingers. when you punch the keys will likely slide sideways, pretty much doing nothing to the attacker and possibly hurting your hand. They aren't meant to be treated like brass knuckles
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>>695973920
I'm an ausfag, what would a good equivalent be
> A small thin coin (Five cents)
> A thick but smallish coin (2 dollar)
>A thick and large coin (1 dollar)
> Or should i just not be a shitcunt and test it myself?
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>>695974101
What do you suggest then? Keys are easily accessible and most people own a pair.
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>>695973298
You can use anything as a weapon, what matters is why you're carrying it. A bike lock gives you a reason for carrying it beyond reasonable doubt.
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>>695973961
Jason Bourne! This is a Blackstone operation.
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>>695970680
Threaten to pist their personal information on "the chan". Works everytime. Hell, it even helped me lose my virginity.
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>>695974127
How are you going to protect yourself if you can't fight. If he jumps you from behind with little to no warning youre fucked
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>>695974376
quarters are 25mm diameter
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simple m8. steal a q ball or any pocket ball from a billiard table at a bar...put it in the end of a really long tube sock. cops roll up separate the sock and ball and call it a good luck charm...nigs roll up start swinging that shit like one of bruce lee's chucks.

>inb4 faggot autism

you ever been hit in the face by a qball at 100 mph? that shit causes autism after the damage is done.

/thread
>10 years streets of chicago and the bronx as a white ass bitch with no backup.
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2 or 2½ feet of common garden hose down your leg in your throusers. Works like nanchucks or chain bicycle lock mentioned above, and hurts like hell. And it is not considered a weapon.
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Simple. Claim you follow an middle-eastern religion and carry around a ceremonial dagger/scimitar.
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>>695974366
Maybe you just can't throw a punch.
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>>695973918
Try punching a wall with your keys between your fingers
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>>695974440
Good, cause you need a pair.
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>>695974366
this, brass knuckles work because the force is actually on the palm of your hand where you hold them steadily, keys are kind of more free to go in any direction.
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>>695970680
Always take a frying pan with you when you go outside. And if someone threatens you then you hit them on the head with it
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>>695974142
In reference to the guy that called them gauntlets fucktard
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>>695974577
Checked and confirmed. Anon this seems like the altruistic and best approach. Almost Macguyver shit here.
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>>695970680
Shit yourself and then fling it at them
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>>695973085
Apparently chain mail now is equivalent to a sack of ball bearings.
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>>695974618
Wall =/= soft tissue.
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>>695974577
this actually sounds legit.
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>>695974577
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I always bring my bf.
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>>695972560
^^^ That
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>>695974612
I'm not the one that needs to put things between my fingers to hurt someone with my fists
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>>695970680
Try to beat them up with weapons and get stabbed anyway because niggers attack like a pack of wolves.

If you want to learn something Judo is always good.
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>>695974577
damn that's some william wallace shit.
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A big ass dildo.
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>>695974856
Do you rape your enemy when you are done beating them?>>695974856
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>>695974804
Implying sheet rock or drywall is anything to punch through
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>>695974804
there's not a lot of soft tissue on the head where you're going to be aiming punches.
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>>695974577
I feel bad for the faggot that doesn't practice with it before tho...fucking lights his own face up by mistake KEK
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>what is the most effective way to protect yourself from being beaten up when you're just walking around town?

I just carry this and don't worry about it.
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>>695974577
checked and confirmed. 100% legal and 100% violent.
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>>695970680
join the police force.
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MFW a bunch of fat-fisted weebs who throw haymakers think keys aren't a good weapon.
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>>695974577
You could actually use like nylons and tie it around your hand then just throw it at their faces and pull it back after it hits...rinse wash repeat. damn dude not a bad idea
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>>695975023
I was thinking the same fucking thing.
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>>695974985
It hasn't happened yet. No one messes with a guy with bun.
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>>695974577
>steal a q ball or any pocket ball
how about a can of soda?
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>>695974577
this
plus you have range if you use nylons or a big sock you can beat any knife range easily
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>>695972994
omg you fucking retard
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>>695970680
>what is the most effective way to protect yourself from being beaten up when you're just walking around town?
Scream like a fucking madman. Go berserk if you can. Honestly, how many people would you fuck with that might actually be crazy?
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>>695975131
You better not fuck with me guys, i've got KEYS!
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>>695975210
if you swing a can of soda at some fags head chances are itll burst if you do it right...that makes it a one time deal. you want a guarantee that this weapon lasts an entire fight.
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>>695974577
You know you can just buy a cue or other ball for like $5?
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>>695975333
Stand there for a moment and let me punch you with the sharp end of a key in the rib-cage/eye/nose/throat.
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>>695975397
Yes, but (and hear me out here) the guy would be sticky.
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>>695975397
>>695975210
always walk around with a 12 pack of soda and a sock!!! KEK but niggers attack in groups of 30 and they kick you when you're down.
buy a gun $400 (preferably a .45)
get a conceal carry $150 (preferably at a tech school)
nigs roll up and threaten you just open up.
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>>695973826

Yeah but the gloves give a huge advantage. Even a frail man could hit pretty seriously with it. And if you are a "normal guy" you actually hit like a fucking truck with it.

There are two versions of this kind of gloves though. One stuffed with "hard" metal, it's to break bones on impact, and one with "softer" things in it like little metal balls, or very soft metal, it's to spread the energy on impact and "just" give huge bruises.

Many bouncers have the second type to hurt if needed but don't cripple for too long.

If you walk with an integral bike helmet and you have the time to put it on, you're basically in god mode and can actually kill people with it. So I wouldn't aim for that... (Maybe it's my past as a lineman, but damn I'd feel confident about fucking someone up with headbutts lol)
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>>695975333
It's a little less funny when the keys pierce through your cheek, eye, and temple.
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>>695975311
>out walking anytime anyday, suddenly niggers
>start screaming, shit pants, reach inside for poo
>smear poo all over myself
>screech at niggers," im one of you!!!"
>profit?
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>>695975564
>implying nigs aren't already sticky with all that grape soda they drink and sweat out?
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>>695975498
Problem is, your attacker wont just fucking stand there. Stop watching anime.
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>>695975131
Lol the person you try to punch with keys will likely shove them up your ass after a good Chuckle
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>>695975397
I speak from experience, i was a picked on nerd in middle school and i wailed on a kid with a pepsi can in a fit of rage in the aftermath of a 'kick me' sign. The can will hold up as long as the liquid stays in it. use the sharp edges of the can and all it will do is dent inwards. Kid left with a monster concussion and my parents were sued, but the judge dismissed it due to self-defense. I was suspended for five weeks and him only 2.
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Just threaten to call the cops
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>>695975645
>imply it's impossible to hit a normal person with a punch
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>>695975593
I know right. Happens all the time. Seems a day doesnt go by when you dont hear about someone getting fucked up cause they fought someone who had keys. Also, if, as you say, everyobe has jeys, what makes you think your attacker doesnt also have keys? Then what?
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>>695975941
>not going for the throat
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>>695975753
yeah but someone might want your soda and that might cause the initial fight to begin with. nobody wants a big white ball in your pocket. nigs have a great sense of smell they can smell the sugar and diabetus through aluminum. don't tempt them and you already remove like 30-50% of the problem
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>>695976148
I like this motherfucker.
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>>695975618
You have to judge what an actual threat is vs what the media portrays as a threat.

No one will want to deal with a crazy person/someone intentionally drawing attention to them-self.
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Steel toe boots
Car key brass knuckles
Wallet chain
Backpack/briefcase bludeon
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>>695975645
Here faggot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X2T7V7TjCY
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All these faggots who aren't old enough to own a gun and carriers permit
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One thing i do for work is i keep a roll of quarters in my pocket. If shit goes south wrap your fist round the roll and start swingin. Little extra weight momentum and much harder fist. Works pretty well. Then when the cops show up, bust the roll and throw away the paper. Now you just have a pocket full of change. Dad always told me they could try you as if you had a weapon. Thats why you break up the roll. Dunno if there is truth to that. Anyway ive had to use it a few times and usually one swing puts the agressor on the ground.
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>>695974618
>try punching a wall
okay dumbass
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>>695975639
Some of that is also fructose from watermelon, fucking racist.
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>>695970680
1. move out of eurocuckland

2. while in the process of 1. if accosted by kebab use a screwdriver or a brick.
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>>695976127
>what if they go for the throat too?
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simple really you become a beekeeper.
capture tons of bee's in a jar from your hive.
throw said jar at them.
>defendor
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>>695976426
No seriously , please. I promise it won't hurt.
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>>695976644
>Defendor
Loved that movie...almost as much as Natural Born Killers
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>>695970680

Running Shoes
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>>695976599
Be faster = win

What if they have a gun faggot?
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>>695970680
take krav maga classes
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>>695976730
Truth. It will almost guarantee you get laid immediately too, so have a hidden camera ready and be ready to post it here so we can all watch and masterbate. You may need to punch said wall 30-40 times but it works.
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>>695976827
Can you hit a moving target with a pistol?
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>>695976411
Fuck. I've been meaning to get my hands on one of those assault knifes. Also my guess is OP is a Euro or Canadafag who pretty much isn't allowed to legally defend themselves and after seeing what happened in Germany among other places is slowly realizing the implications of this.
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>>695977038
Assuming your aim takes the targets movement into account, sure.
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>>695976827
You die in the street over the content of your wallet

>>695977038
Yes, easily they will have min 5 shots at close range. You are not that fucking fast,
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>kick them as hard as your can in the balls. Then punt them in the head.

Or

>punch them in the throat
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>>695974577
I got one to the forehead by an accident once. Ball didnt even hit hard yet it hurt like hell plus it left a lump on my forehead for over a month.
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>>695977125
Much aspergers, very autism
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>>695977241
>>695977125
Have you shot a pistol? This isn't a shotgun. You also have to consider that this is a high-stress situation.
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>>695976996
Listen to this dude, he gets it .
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>>695977398
Yes, and it is a nigger who has probably done it before.

You don't miss and 3 feet
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>>695977398
shotguns dont have very much of a spread anyway retard, you have to aim with them as well
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>>695977058
God damn I love living in America
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>>695977701
Lol no, have u never played a game with shotfuns?
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>>695977854
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>>695977854
Have you ever shot a shotgun ?
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>>695977854
Close range shooting a shot gun is like shooting a rifle the spreed happens much farther out than you'd think you 12 year old, bait or not.
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>>695977701
>shotguns dont have very much of a spread anyway retard, you have to aim with them as well
It depends on the choke, idiot.

>>695977627
Has done what before?
>you don't miss and 3 feet
Have you ever been in a situation where you were forced to shoot at 3'?
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>>695973789
I'd rather not carry a .45 honestly. It has too much kick to be accurate at a distance. But you can keep one in the chamber with the 1911 without fear of it fireing.
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>>695978033
This
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>>695978176
I like my 9mm m1911, but the .45 is great for home intruders
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>>695977701
>you have to aim with them as well
>>695978069
Sorry, I was a bit too forward with this. You do have to aim with a shotgun, but your room for error is greater depending on your choke and how far out you are.
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>>695978069
Killed, handled a gun and yet again yes, I was talking 3' from the muzzle not 3' from the torso. Not to mention you have to deal with the fear of a pack of niggers robbing you.

You also would have been shot already because it is easier to rob a corpse

>>695978311
I prefer .40 for no real reason
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>>695978069
Not really idiot, you wont be shooting at 15 yards out you fuck wit it'll be less than 15 feet
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>>695973789
>mfw trying to pick between a glock or a 1911 for carry gun
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>>695978604
If you shoot someone from 14 feet away who is not pointing a gun at you, you will go to jail regardless of whether you have a permit
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>>695978864
Five seven master race


I thought guns were ruled out of this hypothetical scenario anyway.
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>>695978864
Glocks are too blocky in my opinion, but the m1911 is just the right weight and feel in my hands
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>>695978877
But we're not talking about that are we. We're talking self defense.
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>>695979009
That is a stupid thing to rule out when you are being swamped by a pack of niggers.

This is now a pistol thread
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>>695978604
Most bird game are shot far beyond your 15 feet area.

Actually, shooting within 15' would be considered dangerous for most hunting parties.
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I am 300lb ex powerlifter and a framer

I am the wrong person.
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I think what all of you gunfags are missing is that it is still pretty tough to hit a moving target at close distance, and that most people mugging you don't have excellent training/experience.

that being said most people being mugged are caught with the gun to their head/whatever before they can react so this is a pretty pointless conversation.
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>>695979112
Just saying, it's not self defense at that point in the eyes of the law. Unless the person is pointing a gun at you, or in your house, and you would need an awfully big house lol
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>>695979235
Sure it is, but if your being mugged do you:

a) give them your shit and pray

b) try to fight and risk your life
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>>695978604
>Not really idiot, you wont be shooting at 15 yards out you fuck wit it'll be less than 15 feet
That wasn't my question.

Have you ever been in a situation where you were forced to shoot at 3'?
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>>695970680
why not just pick up run away?
arguably the
>most effective way to protect yourself
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>>695979235
Gun owners carry guns, not to shoot people, but as a precaution. Thus being said, most people will not fuck with you if they see you are carrying a pistol, intimidation is the first line of defense, the gun is the last.
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>>695979393
nah the tough guy shit goes out the window. they can have my student ID and my shoes
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I will call the Nigger Derminator
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>>695979622
The gun being intimidating that is
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>>695972305
Hey, there goes that weirdo who always walks around with gloves on. Why do you think he does that?

I dont knoe, bu it I also heard that he carries around a plastic looking egg. He acts like there's something special inside of it because he doesn't let it spill out. He almost always has it in his hand.

Should we call the f.b.i. and report him?

Ummmm..... yah, thats probably a good idea. Either hes a terrorist, or schizophrenic.
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>>695971947
Is there bacon and tacks in the other pocket? WTF you making for lunch?
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>>695979622
>intimidation is the first line of defense
Nigga, have you passed your C&C test?

Your "intimidation" can wind you up in jail for pointing a gun where you don't actually intend to shoot.
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>>695979423
Never though the dumb thing to do would be to pull your arm out all the way and shoot, hip fire it as you hold them back with one arm so they don't grab your arm or gun.
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>>695979622
Yeah, I agree with you man. I was talking about the people concerned about muggers being able to make their mark.
I'm for open carry actually, it just really makes me uncomfortable, and this is a person who fucks with boomsticks for a living. idk, maybe just a pussy but it puts me on edge for no rational reason
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a sock with a lock in it will fuck someone up.
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>>695979954
Sorry, I meant the gun on my hip being intimidating. Not pointing it around all Willy nilly and starting shit
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>>695980001
mfw im one off
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>>695979872
lol this is just a dumb response >>695979939
maybe you could poison the meat and give it to them, damn that could be the next thing
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>>695973753
How does that work exactly
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>>695979961
Again, that wasn't my question.
have you ever been in a situation where you were forced to shoot at 3'?

Where did you learn your tactics?
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>>695980141
This, holy shit how did you miss this implication.
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Why hasnt anyone named anythig practical, yet? Like a fucking, tazer gun(super legal.) Or brass knuckles?? Classic bad boy, shit. Better get a goood lawyer if you get in trouble using them, though.
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>>695977038
>Can you hit a moving target with a pistol?

Can you point your finger at someone 10 ft away when they're moving?
Seriously!
At that range you don't even have to lead your target.
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>>695974810
>>695974839
>>695974729
>>695974963
>>695975023
>>695975067
>>695975154
>>695975210
>>695975491


horrendously embarrassing Samefagery
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>>695980461
This is 4Chan nigger who gives a fuck
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>>695970680
>can't run away
>can't use a knife

Use a gun.
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>>695980454
? No i said I'd never been but I'm not the anon you first asked that anyways. There are plenty of older training manuals and videos from different armies out there on the internet. Don't think I take myself for some special tact fag who thinks he's spetznas hot shit now I don't but it doesn't hurt reading or watching material.
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Hammer

/thread
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>>695980141
>>695980461
Could have been taken either way. Thanks for your clarification though.
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>>695970680
Nightstick/blackjack
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>>695980761
Carrying a hammer or other such tool without probable cause would be sketchy. Not illegal but the court isn't going to be impressed.
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>>695980489
>Why hasnt anyone named anythig practical, yet? Like a fucking, tazer gun(super legal.)

Think again, Dipshit.
In my state (Massachusetts) I can carry a concealed handgun. I can use it to kill people in self defense.

But if I am in possession of a stun gun, even at home, in a safe, with the battery removed..............I can do a mandatory year in jail.
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>>695980886
Murricans' Logic
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uh, no
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>>695980779
Specifically a sailor's blackjack (ex: Monkey's fist knot tied with a steel ball bearing inside)
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>>695980382
Whats dumb is your solution to the problem. An egg would break, and then yord have glass shards/powder in their pocet. Itchy-irritated-raw thighs for the next who knows how long!? Co om e on. Thats a hospital trip, man. Im so in disbelief that I'm going to steal some jell-o from my kids. Look what your comment made me do, anon. Im staling from children becauseof you. Consequences will never be the same.
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>>695980740
Sorry, my comments were directed towards "You don't miss [at] 3 feet"

Good for you for reading up on that though. It never hurts to be prepared.
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>>695980886
yeah and brass knuckles are outright illegal in most of the states I've lived in
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>>695970680
RHODESIAN LIGHT INFANTRY
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>>695980614
Not at all.

>>695980997
Anyone can edit the markup to fake a screenshot.
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>>695976856
We know hes not getting mugged by palestinian kids
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>>695981128
This thing has been used for a long time in feudal japan by ninja and samurai police its called metsubushi. You don't need to use an egg though you can use other containers that are hardier and obviously crack free.
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>>695981576
sure, but i didn't
2/10 for making me respond
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>>695980886
Well then, good. But are you, op? Why the fuck do I care about you, or your shitty life?
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Hey guys, OP here. Just wanted to say I abandoned this thread and am now pleasantly surprised to see its the first thing when I come back to /b.
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>>695981227
Thanks haha, commenting on that guy im sure he'd be surprised at how many people have missed shots at 3 feet. Guns were made to shoot more shots per minute for a reason over time even if those applications were meant for father ranges.
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>>695970680
A katana of the finest Japanese steel
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>>695981892
And dont you ever fucking, speak out of turn again you lily, bitch. Know your place when master race is present.
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Kicking them. Kicks fucking hurt man
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>>695982031
You piece of horseshit, op.
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That will never happen to me because I'm the fastest thing alive.
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Lmao I got that knife
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>>695982286
never kick above the waist, leg gets caught or you miss/lose your balance you're fucked if you don't know anything else.
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>>695970680
You can get punch daggers without blades (See here http://www.bladehq.com/item--Benchmade-SOCP-Dagger-Trainer-3-Red--10143)
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>>695982094
>surprised at how many people have missed shots at 3 feet. Guns were made to shoot more shots per minute for a reason over time even if those applications were meant for father ranges.
Exactly. A well-placed .22 shot can definitely kill, you need the bigger rounds because you can't expect to shoot straight in a panic situation.
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i once saw a guy entering a bar, squirting a can of lighter fuel in his face and threatening him with a zippo
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>>695983285
>in his face
in his victims face
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>>695982724
lol what a pussy get some brass if you're a real man
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>>695982474
So you're a virgin redneck woman?
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>>695983906
No, I'm autistic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoXP2tMmv7Y
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>>695970680
The most successful way to avoid being mugged or assaulted is to act crazy. In London during the early 2000s, it wasn't uncommon to be mugged at night for your shoes or whatever and the easiest way to have them flee is to act "off". You don't have to go full cerebral palsy but many success stories of acting aggravated, loud, threatening, instead of timid and scared work, much like it would against a bear. You have no idea how easy it is to scream "YOU KNOW HOW HARD I WORKED FOR THESE TRAINERS?! YOU'RE NOT GETTIN THEM!" works. Although in America, I would not try this during a car-jacking.
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rape your attacker
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>>695973265
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Keep a deodorant in your coat pocket and a cigarette lighter.
= aerosol flamethrower.
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>>695974523
If he jumps you from behind with no warning you're fucked either way you tard monkey.
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>>695983218
Not to mention the training to remain cool and calm in those situations, regardless of that you will always have that adrenaline inside you flowing around. Shoot till you see them fall and no more otherwise you'll get excessive force on your ass. Stay at a distance and safe if you can if they decide to still try to shoot at you lying down but I'd doubt that after the 4 rounds of 6 you shot are put into them.
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>>695985830
you guys haven't really shot in high stress situations, have you? It's not all that hard to remain calm. Granted, it's entirely learned, but you shouldn't be carrying a gun around anyhow if you haven't been training yourself with it regularly.
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OP again, I'm about the thread again, this time for good. It's time for bed.

One thing I will say having read through this fuck-ton of comments.. And because I feel I have my answers..

There isn't much that can effectively be done. As I first stated, without having legal implications, it seems the best option would be-

A. Carried pepper spray for the ability to leave, even if at a slower pace (assuming I'm fat or whatever).

B. Still having a knife, but simply for the intimidation factor.

And yes, I get having a gun, or some crazy glass egg contraption (that suggestion was retarded btw) could be useful, but in all reality, the legal implications would be too much.

But yeah, it doesn't seem like much can be done to protect yourself, other than being smart, staying out of terrible environments and situations, and being able to run fast. Otherwise, you risk a lot legally (assuming you're dealing with cops) by defending yourself.

night =]
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about to *abandon.

I should have proofread.
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>>695986399
The most stress i've had was throwing gatorade bottles in the air and shooting them cause im poorish and live with a shit ton of rednecks, I think its different when you're making a split second reaction for your life or you get into a shootout unless you've done that yourself but I think for most it would still be hard to do in that situation anyways.
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>>695986399
>you guys haven't really shot in high stress situations, have you?
No. Which is why I don't currently carry. The "shoot/don't shoot" works up to a point but it's a completely different game when you actually have to pull the trigger. Most former Military are trained to shoot first for protection and then ask questions later. The civil rights are structured differently.
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>>695973916
This.
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>>695986910
I've been in that situation a lot, and it's a split second decision, no doubt, but you have to train yourself on how to react. You have to set up scenarios to recreate that mindset. It's understandable not everyone can do that. But it's definitely worth tracking down ranges that might have simulators.
>>695986945
>Most former military are trained to shoot first
Citation fucking needed. We were taught something called the continuum of force. Verbal warning, second verbal warning, OC Spray/baton, forced restraint/firearm. We shoot if we're presented with a firearm and the person given the verbal warning doesn't relent. Or if we're fired upon first.
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>>695986613
>tfw aerospace boner and want to play aerospace games but need to do homework
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>>695973184
>sure let me just bring my stove with me on a walk
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Does anyone have a recipe for pancakes?
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>>695973265
I want to see this in a street fight.
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>>695970680
Honestly I find stripping my clothes off fast, run towards them screaming while shitting and pissing from fear works. Bonus points if you are crying.
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>>695987424
>OC Spray/baton, forced restraint/firearm. We shoot if we're presented with a firearm and the person given the verbal warning doesn't relent. Or if we're fired upon first.

Let me guess, MP? Or at least worked closely with them?
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>>695987942
I make mine with just sourdough sponge and baking soda, when it's been unfed a while and I need to get rid of some.
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>>695987942
3 quarts of milk, 6 handfuls of flour, a trash bag of mt. Dew. Mix well and panbake.
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>>695987424
>continuum
it's escalation, you dumb nigger. also none of that verba/oc bullshit is true. were you an mp in the chairforce and never deployed or what?
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>>695983795
lol what a pussy get a gun if you're a real man
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>>695979730
You mean the Zim-Zam?
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>>695988680
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Instant suggestion of free prostitution usually works
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>>695988530
lol what a pussy get an RPG if you're a real man
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