I had a conversation about islam with two colleagues of mine.
I told them the Quran teaches about beheading non believers and cutting the hands off thieves. They told me "that simply isn't true". "Have you even read the Quran?"
It's fucking infuriating. How do I even talk to these kind of people and explain how dangerous islam is?
Have you tried making them read the relevant passages of the Q'oran?
>>695377641
Have you read the fucking Quran, you fucking inbred? Try reading before you say anything about anything.
>>695378650
Literally the first pages explain how Muslims are chosen by God and that non believers are hated by him. And no need trying to convert them, of God loved us we'd be muslim. It says that any muslim who values life is no true muslim. True Muslims should welcome death, it even condemns non believers for wanting to live long lives. Fuck outta here
>>695378628
way too convenient that egg shells are magically staying on the of her head
>>695379264
Where does it mention beheadings ya imbecile?
>>695377641
learn verses by heart and throw them to them you can easily found the dangerous/beheading the infidels verses on the web
>>695379264
Yup. In the Christian Bible, it talks about a dude who made a pact with his invisible god friend, to go sacrifice the first person he saw, if he returned home victorious from his war. So when his daughter hugged him, he made up his mind then and there to burn her alive at the stake, to keep his promise.
Now show me a Christian in the U.S. who recently burned their daughter in return for victory in war, and we'll discuss how dangerous holy books are at influencing people's behaviors in life.
>>695380265
Yeah because the web always shows the truth
Not even sure if bait
>>695379276
maybe they ran up and smashed it on her head? I don't give a shit either way. they fucking stare at my girlfriend for how she dresses in my own fucking country.
>>695380265
yep, go on ultra christian kkk like websites you will find it
>>695380693
They just want to help her anon by purifing the infidel with there penises
>>695378291
this
If you can't point out the passages you have nothing to hold against this argument. You can't just make a statement and be not able to prove it.
Equally as dangerous as Christianity.
>>695378650
literally get the fuck outta here
>>695380693
Shut the fuck up faggot. Muslims deserve to be eradicated.
>>695377641
USE QUOTES FROM THE QURAN YOU FUCKING NIGGER
HOW DUMB ARE YOU
Go to the website religionofpeace dot com and loot at the quotes, it's a website which is anti islam and records verses of violence in the quran
>>695381101
Take your head out of your ass.
You don't see many Christian suicide bombers, do you?
>>695381101
Nope.
>>695377641
>They told me "that simply isn't true". "Have you even read the Quran?"
"Chapter Number, Verse Number."
Say it like how Dr Zakir Naik says it for added effect.
All religions are the same and equally dangerous to thoselooking for an exscuse tp perpetrate violence
>>695381411
No, but the religion itself is just as dangerous. People do the killing, not the religion. The Quran calls for killing people who don't believe, the Bible calls for killing people who wear clothes made of two different materials. Both are fucked
>>695381538
exactly
why are there so many sjws out this morning? jesus fuck they're mudslime goatfuckers who refuse to eat bacon. their women are so ugly that they have to cover them up
All the supposed violent passages from the Quran you find online actually come from the Hadith, which are oral traditions that were used and developed as political tools by whatever islamic ruler.
>>695377641
no different from Christianity which had crusaders no different from the IS
>>695381541
Please tell me where you see christians actually killing people for that other than in 3rd world countries in Africa.
>>695377641
Poserfag calling him christian and having not read the bible... smh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEnWw_lH4tQ
>>695381688
I didn't say Christians were as dangerous as Muslims. But there's more at play than just religion (political instability and whatnot). The religions themselves are equally good/bad. It depends on who believes and how the use the religion to justify their actions.
>>695381593
it's trolls trolling trolls dude
>>695381538
Complete bullshit. Specific beliefs and doctrines matter. How would someone use Jainism to justify their acts of terror?
>>695381330
>autistic detected
I literally just said I don't give a shit she got egged, these Muslim sluts stare at my gf for how she dresses in my own country.
only the crusades was a defensive reaction to muslims taking Jerusalem, IS is an offensive campaign to kill everyone or convert them dumb shit. Stop using the crusades as some scapegoat for homicidal muslim maniacs
>>695381599
Yeah except Christians haven't acted out by killing in the name of Christianity since the crusades. Islam has killed more than Christians did just this year alone. Fuck off.
>hur durr islam isn't the only bad religion
>I'm sucking a fat nigger dick now
>>695379885
>SEE, YOU DONT KNOW WHERE BEHEADING IS THEREFORE I WIN THIS ARGUMENTS MUSLIMS PEACEFUL CONFIRMED
kill yourself
>>695381541
Christians generally write off those sections of the bible by saying that Jesus gave them a new covenant, so it's not like they're likely to engage in that anytime soon.
Maybe in the middle ages you would've had a point, but right now the only dangerous thing about Christianity is that it is false.
That's far less dangerous than people who are actively working towards the destruction of our people and our way of life.
>>695380322
Bait
>>695382026
>autistic detected
maybe if your wording wasn't terrible I would've understood that.
>>695377641
Maybe you should try talking about something else you fucking autist. Your colleagues most likely think you're a twat.
“To travel in silence (1) by a long and circuitous route (4), to brave the arrows of misfortune (3) and fear neither noose nor fire (6), to play the greatest of all games and win (7), foregoing no expense (5), is to mock the vicissitudes of fate (8) and to gain the keys that will unlock (2) the ninth gate (9).”
http://www.lulu.com/us/en/shop/aristide-torchia/the-nine-gates-of-the-kingdom-of-shadows-boris-balkan-version/hardcover/product-21892104.html
>>695382194
amazing, the other anon understood it just fine.
>>695382046
Right yeah but that's the thing, all christain countrys are 1st world where only complete idiots would throw away there comfortable lives to go kill niggers, but islam countrys are sandy wastelands, everyone is ignorant due to no education and they have very little to lose, plus they're getting fucked by their government and their oil is being stolen by the west.
The tall problem is that everyone is saying islam is dangerous when what they should be saying is that religion is dangerous
>>695381101
fucking mudslime
>>695381782
fucking nigger, do you understand the difference between christians and muslims?
You wont see niggers beheading jews because they arent christians, that happens nowhere
All there is is fucking sandniggers playing gta irl all over the place, thats why they are more dangerous
Christians mostly evolve, sandniggers stay sandniggers
>>695382243
>SJW detected
Watch out boys we got a live one
Theology was designed to backtrack science and culture as a means of population control and are still around as a symtom of the greater human condition that is our fear of the unknown.
*mic drop*
>>695382279
le ancient stealing my oil meme
How come Christians can pick and choose from the bible (selling your daughter, rape, stoning your children, insest) but Muslims can't?
Yes both the Bible and Quran have fucked up things in them, but modern people pick and choose. Just curious
>>695382279
why should I give a single fuck about those sand niggers? I don't give a fuck how poor they live. Fuck them and fuck the jews. Fuck the whole middle east. Stay out of my country
>>695382327
what other religion is causing their followers to maim and murder?
religion isn't dangerous. uneducated fucks are dangerous.
>>695382279
If you think all Christian countries are 1st world then you should go back to school.
>>695382327
Nope, Islam is more dangerous. Saying all religions are equal is like saying all sports are equal. No, golf is not as dangerous as football.
SPECIFIC beliefs matter. Believing god wants you to be peaceful and love your neighbor like yourself, is not the same as believing god wants you to cut off alternate hands and feet of those who would corrupt the land.
>>695381782
obviously this, there is no argument to the contrary, people have killed eachother all throughout history, doent matter what for, that isnt the problem.
People only stop killing eachother/commiting crime when they are content and happy like people are in first world countries.
Anyone who thinks Islam specifically is the sole reason for this violence has fucking downsyndrome.
>>695382411
>Disagrees with me
>Must be SJW
Brilliant logic there, bro. If you always think like that, you'll never be wrong!
>>695377641
Same as Christians.
A reminder, Allah the pig was also responsible for Judaism and Christianity.
Terrorism won't end until the whole world drops all these from the desert semitic religions/beliefs.
>>695382488
list me 3rd world christian countries
>>695382481 abortion clinic bombings gay bashing lynching
>>695382411
No I'm just saying if someone I work with went around trying to convince people that Islam is dangerous, we'd just assume they're a dickhead.
>>695382600
Saying Islam is more dangerous... What country first developed nuclear weapons? Who has the largest military in the entire world under the guise of self defense? Who was that country founded by and who runs it? Think before you speak shitlips.
>>695382460
did I say you should care? Just saying the problem is innate human conflict, not the fact they're sand niggers or are islamic
>>695382682
Ethiopia
>>695382600
The christian bible calls for killing too
>>695382327
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2016
There are more than 1000 specific incidents on this list, and nearly 100% of them are done in the same of one specific religion.
>>695382682
like every south american shit hole is christian
>>695382789
OK pal we are talking about religion not politics. Stupid cocksmoker.
>think before you speak m8
>>695382682
Once again, go back to school you incredibly ignorant fuck. Look at Africa and South America.
>>695382279
America gets most of its oil from Canada.
>>695382737
That's like nothing. You people turn small shit into big shit and big shit into small shit
>>695382737
on such a small scale that they're insignificant.
>>695382823
But being a nig and following islam are the number one issues here.
>>695378628
boo hoo she got an egg on her head while the other women without a dumb scarf get acid to the face
>>695382857
No it doesn't. The new testament is the Christian bible. So don't comment on shit you know nothing about.
>>695382932
Yea but those have shitskins you retard
>>695382864
Hey I know that this is the biggest thing at this point in history but look at the past, the Spanish inquisition the salem witch trials, right now its muslims but it may be christians again in the future or any other cult, the pastafarians may declare holy war some day for all we know
>>695383095
someone has angered the Christian..
>>695382828
yeah, and that's a real civilised utopian place right? http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/04/ethiopia-attack-200-people-dead-100-children-missing-160418045025770.html
>>695382682
lots of black african and latin american countries are majority christians
>>695383076
She deserves it. Kill them all
>>695377641
Just read the Quran and cite passages within it
>>695383167
What about the athiests who have killed almost a billion people in the last 100 yrs?
>>695383189
Yea, but you don't have top worry about me going Charlie Hebdo on everyone faggot
>>695383135
Uh, okay? You said to list 3rd world Christian countries and I did, what fucking difference does it make if they have shitskins lol? Go back to school.
>>695383191
south america
>>695380322
>Orthodox christianity
We got over it
>>695383246
No one can use atheism to justify killing people. That's like saying what about all the killings that have been done by people who have brown hair.
>>695381688
if arabs and africans were all christians they would have done the same thing as well. bad people are bad people.
>>695382422
/thread
>>695382637
>>695382327
>>695381599
>>695381101
Samefag
Don't you realize by saying Islam is just like Christianity you give more power to the people who want to kill us all?
Don't you realize radical Muslims thrive when people are too busy flagelating their own culture to call out theirs?
>>695383246
I'd like to see proof of any killings done in the name of athiesm
>>695383191
>>695383306
Eastern European countries.
>>695383290
Shitskins aren't people you moron. Countries are made up of people, google country you larvea
>>695382327
Entire cultures based on what imaginary sky friends say is dangerous.
Entire cultures based on religions around omnipotent, omniscient beings who actually care whether you touch your peeny at night is dangerous.
religion is a shit stain upon humanity and it's a direct throw back to barely being removed from apes and wondering what the giant yellow thing in the sky is.
>>695383387
Yes it can? Are you autistic? They use athiesm to kill religious people xD
>How high and mighty you secular fags think you are
>>695382923
Are they really all that different? Think about it shitbreath. Christianity has a far greater capacity for evil than a religion that has people beheading women and living in shit huts. Christianity is a honed form of social control that has spread across the earth like wildfire and the most powerful country in the world with the biggest military spending budget by 5 times over is a Christian country founded by christians. Christians are far more dangerous than sandniggers. How about the dark ages? Let's go back to the crusades maybe? Christianity is just as dangerous as any other religion you fucking nitwit.
>>695380322
Yes, lets totay disregard the crusade where people were killed for dumb ass reasons in the name of "Jesus"
>>695383403
Shit dude, I didn't say modern islamic culture wasn't WAY worse than modern Christian culture. It is. But there are Muslims who are chill and Christians who aren't. Don't fuck with the good Muslims out of fear of the bad ones.
>>695383167
Do you actually think 'two wrongs make a right' is a legitimate justification for terrorism?
And no, the death toll we're seeing in modern times dwarfs any example you might have from centuries ago, but that isn't relevant anyways.
>>695383403
Don't you realize that by generalizing and making Muslims the enemy, you're playing exactly into Isis hands?
>>695383306
Right? Not really 3rd world, bad off but pretty much fine.
>>695383617
let's completely disregard the fact that Muslims were the aggressors which started the crusades.
>>695383684
this
>>695383419
Russia did it to the Jews and Christians.
China did it to the Christians, and they are doing it again today to the Christians. Every secular gov. that kills people is doing it in the name of Secularism. And don't say they aren't cuz you fags say the one bombing of a planned parenthood means all christians are shit. KILL YOURSELF
>>695383590
Ok you obviously have no idea what your talking about
>>695383590
can't tell if bait or actually this retarded
show ONE case where ANYONE has killed another person in the name of atheism.
fuck
>>695382243
>>695382411
It's not SJW, read over what the OP said. Colleagues.
Is that an appropriate place to try and bring up these things? No, it's not. It's possible they may even agree with his views privately, but don't want the office autist to know.
>>695383403
sorry, nope http://i.imgur.com/vg2xebZ.png
>>695383611
He is so pissed off guys!!! He thinks that bitching to some random person on the Internet is gonna save the world!! What a bitch!
>>695383721
are you fucking kidding me? have you been paying attention lately? Venezuela?
>>695383751
That's a great argument.
>You don't understand
Yea I am going to listen to a godless animal like you. Fucking pigeon
>>695383670
>>695383670
>Do you actually think 'two wrongs make a right' is a legitimate justification for terrorism?
With that argument you shouldn't support the war against terror or any aggressive war.
>>695383729
This anon gets it.
>>695383590
>(You)
There are no instructions written in any doctrine for atheists to follow. Atheism is a blank slate default position
>>695383760
Every communist country EVER
>>695378628
>>695383760
You really like playing pretend don't you?
>>695383739
>Every secular gov. is doing it in the name of secularism
Proof please.
>>695383917
Karl Marx
>Communist Manifesto Bernie Butt
>>695384014
Kmer Rouge
>>695383617
>>695383617
Get out of here with that shit Obama. Should we be whining about stuff that happened 1000 years ago to be politically correct or should we be whining about stuff that's happening right now that's just as bad if not worse than stuff that happened 1000 years ago. If we're living in the 21st century don't you think we should over religious conlfict?
>>695383684
That's why I don't wish to generalize, but out the radical Muslims.
A good solution would be to give support for moderates so they have more of a voice and can keep their followers from radicalizing.
>>695384016
That's not an atheist doctrine wtf. Atheism doesn't require you to do or believe ANYTHING. Every person on this planet is born an atheist until they are indoctrinated into something else
>>695384060
you gave me the name of a communist party, I'd like evidence that they were killing in the name of secularism.
>>695383935
So wait, isnt communism's death toll far less then?
>>695383893
So, you do think that it's okay for Muslims to kill innocent people, because other religions killed innocent people first? That's what you believe right?
>>695384166
Agreed
>>695383835
That was incredibly clever and you made some valid points there. Hats off to you.
Athiests are a bunch of sociopathic self deluded labes. Fuck all of you, you are not the future, you are the past. Lie to yourself's I hope your trap children make you proud
>>695383617
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades
>The First Crusade arose after a call to arms in a 1095 sermon by Pope Urban II. Urban urged military support for the Byzantine Empire and its Emperor, Alexios I, who needed reinforcements for his conflict with westward migrating Turks in Anatolia.
Sound like "just cuz jesus lol" to me.
>>695383209
Love the answer "list me" said, lot of....
>>695380843
Over here is a statue of the mouse god named BWAAAAAH!!!
>>695384342
>hurr durr no atheist can have morality because all morality comes from religion
>>695384179
I believe people have souls. So I guess your not a person.
>Ok to kill you for fun then.
Anyways people should be taught to believe in christ from a young age. They are happier than the athiests. Atheists are the most retarded people ever. Fucking ruining the world and America
>>695384166
no it doesnt work. the fundamentalist just points in the koran and all the moderates have no arguments. in fact the moderate muslims are the most dangerous because they live as normal people, drink alcohol, eat pork believing it is ok because islam is a religion of peace. then one day they want to explore their ancestral roots and read the koran and find out that they will go to hell for living like the infidels and they are filled with vengence and hatred. this is why well educated, normal muslims end up suddenly murdering those around them.
>>695384263
No, I don't. I also don't believe it's OK for people to force a war on a country for dubious reasons. Including terrorism and perceived injustices.
> they're mistreating minorities
> let me just walz in, destroy the government and infrastructure, that'll surely help
>>695384192
Kmer Rouge.
Stalins gov.
Chinas.
Oh and North Korea. Bring bible to North Korea.
>>695380322
http://www.syracuse.com/crime/index.ssf/2016/02/baby_maddox_was_killed_body_burned_and_hidden_before_father_went_into_hiding_sou.html
>>695384469
>I believe people have souls
Based on what evidence?
>>695384460
Atheists have no morals. They have no Written text to live by. As you're disgusting godless fag freinds have said on this post.
>>695384537
Nope, you're just listing more names. Show me where any of them have stated that they were killing in the name of secularism.
>>695384469
> dehumanizing the enemy
Classic psychological warfare
>>695384543
I can feel my soul. We have feelings don't we? Maybe you are low grade souls xD
>Gunna call me stupid for believing in souls
Europe needs to return to following racial superiority ideas and I believe they will once it gets bad enough.
>>695384602
Atheists figure out what is moral through reason. You decide based on an old book
>>695384646
they blew up churches and temples with dynamite
>>695384602
oh right because no person can have morals unless they come from a book right?
everyone has morals, religious or not, it's called being human you fucktard.
>>695384342
Christians are a bunch of deluded xenophobic old white people that fear there impending death enough to throw logic and reason into the garbage in favor of magical talking snakes and vague proverbial dialogue that is roughly akin to a children's book?
I hope Donald trump makes you proud
>>695384646
So if they kill people and they are secular but they don't say they are doing it for their athiesm, that make sit not in the name of atheism. What about the recent planned parenthood shooting, he didn't say he did it for god. but he was a christian. And everyone said he did it for god. So why the double standard?
>>695380322
http://biblehub.com/leviticus/21-9.htm
>>695384738
that automatically means they're killing in the name of secularism? Islamic terrorists blow up churches too, does that mean they're doing it in the name of secularism?
>>695384687
You believe we are monkeys. How is that dehumanizing anything?
>>695381435
Brudder makes a very gud point
>>695378291
If you read it from the beginning, you would realize that any contradictions are solved by the later passage being the one which is to be followed.
>>695384837
Well this is one of the areas where i can stand up for Christians. The doctrine doesn't mention abortions at all, or killing abortion doctors. This is more an American culture thing than a christian thing.
>>695384721
people learn either from their own experience or by the examples of others. the ten commandments guard and protect you from political and religious extremism because you are not allowed to take from other people or force them to do anything either good or bad. communists hate christianity because of this fact. communists believe they can create paradise on earth by force.
>>695384534
Well maybe next time someone complains about the assholes blowing themselves up, you keep your "but the crusades" BS to yourself.
Also, sorry for ruining your perfect utopia
>>695380693
islam deserves to be ridiculed muhammad was a gay boi
>>695381101
Nobody can be this stupid
>>695384721
Yea, they have conscience. Which to me is god telling you right from wrong. Otherwise it would be like when a dog attacks his master for no explainable reason. they just do it. Do they feel bad? Probably not, their instincts told them to do it. To me their is a difference between conscience and instincts.
>>695384837
>>695384738
I actually have to concede here. There probably were instances where secular government forced their opinion on the people. No different than religion.
>>695384798
oh noes, not XENOPHOBIC!
>>695382408
????
>>695384837
Christianity has ancient books that tell their followers to kill, Atheism doesn't have anything like that. Atheists live by their own accord. It's not a double standard because Atheism and Christianity are by no means the same.
>>695384761
No it's from god. From the creator who wanted us to do certain things and not do certain things. You think humans just evolved from monkey's into a species that has that?
>>695384885
atheism is a belief just like islam. muslims blow up temples and artifacts because of islam. atheists blow up temples and artifacts because of atheism
>>695385056
they will defend Islam as their heads roll on the ground
>>695384473
Then we need to find a loop hole for them like Christians have they're "New Covenant in Jesus" to ignore the Old Testament.
Those moderates obviously want to live normal lives, all we need to do is find a way to give them permission to do so.
I predict in our life time we will see the new islamic war. Either we will kill all of them or they will kill all of us. Personally i think theres enough gun carrying folk that when push comes to shove us "non-believers "will win.
Fuck all religion in the ass.
>>695384798
Like the Christians in Africa. And South America, and all over the world. Lots of white people. Get out of the box larvea
>>695377641
Haha! They rekt you. You just read what other fag atheists say online
>>695377641
get a copy of the damn thing in english and use it to prove you point
>>695385184
Atheism is not a belief. When you are born and no one has taught you anything about religion, you are an atheist. Atheism is a lack of belief.
>>695385022
Thank you. i don't oppose abortions and I am a devout Christian. I have no idea why Ted Cruz or some random christians would want a retarded baby walking around. I say off them.
>>695384902
It's not meant as an insult.
Saying someone doesn't have a soul is meant to distinguish yourself and deminish him. Since you have something that makes you special, that the other person could never have.
You won't hear an atheist say in spite that you don't stem from monkeys.
> implying we're monkeys
>>695385184
lolnope, once again you're just assuming that because someone is a certain religion/belief, they must be doing it in the name of that religion/belief. no evidence here whatsoever.
>>695384537
actually one peron was get in jail, becouse he left a bible in his room of the hotel
>>695377641
I know that feel, it's exactly the same with Christians. It seems like religious people cherry pick the best bits from their religious texts, and ignore the barbaric shit, and all the things that contradict eachother. They're like the Krillitanes of the religious world. For example: Talking to a Christian who previously mentioned that they'd read the entire bible. Say to them "There's a lot of contradictions in the bible, that's why I don't believe it". They ask for an example, and I mention how one minute the bible advocates the death penalty to rapists, viewing rape as an abhorrent crime, the next God is commanding an army to kill, rape and pillage a village. The motherfucker just says "That doesn't sound right, where does it say that", or words to that affect
>Read the entire bible
>"Where does it say that?"
>>695383289
Touche'
This thread is 75% trolling (reddit/summer)
20% mental retardation (9gag)
And 5% buttmad Christfags looking for validation in their idiotic beliefs (KluKluxKlan)
>>695385174
We evolved from apes, not monkeys :-)
>>695381336
Do I need a fedora to visit that site?
>>695377641
Dowload iQuran onto your phone. Bookmark the passages.
Easy.
>>695385221
Thats called a reformation. Islam will never have that. It would mean giving up on all their beliefs. Their whole religion is based on killing us. Thats how the religion of peace works! When all who opose me are dead, then there will be peace. They are all fucked in the head and taught that they are right.
>>695385474
shut up, nigger
>>695379264
If it's in the first pages you know this (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naskh_(tafsir)) may apply
>>695385221
That's very true. Reformers of Islam like maajid nawaz and whatnot are trying to find such a loophole, but at this moment it's really hard to. Islam's scripture is quite short and to the point, not as convoluted and contradictory as the bible, which makes the task much harder. But you are right, it's probably one of the only things that can be done to turn Islam into a truly peaceful and secular supporting religion
>>695383893
>With that argument you shouldn't support the war against terror or any aggressive war
It's a little different. The war on terror is suppose to end terrorism. One wrong stop some other people from making a lot more wrongs.
>>695385302
Wrong. That would be agnostic (no belief). Atheist is a definite belief.
>>695385039
It's not about the death toll of the crusades it's about knowing that we've been there we've been that ignorant and we threw our lifes away for promises that never were.
Understand that they are blinded by religious hatred like our culture once was and find an intelligent way to get them out of that pit, like we one did. Instead of using brute force.
>>695385533
But you could do that with any book and find bad parts. Now all you're doing is showing you don't understand how books work.
>>695377641
Islam is similiar to Catholicism in that they are both interpreted by the masses by Imam's or Ayatollah's. In fact the major division's in Islam can be traced back to this. The Shia believe that Mohammad's successor was his rightful heir, the Sunni's do not. There are other smaller sects like with all religions. But most follow this same line choosing one side or the other and being forced into box A or box B.
>>695379264
“I begin with the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
All praise is to God, Lord of all the worlds
Most Gracious, Most Merciful
Master of the Day of Judgment
You Alone do we worship and You Alone do we ask for help
Guide us to the straight path
The Path of those on whom You bestowed Your bounties
Not the path of those who incurred Your wrath or those who went astray.” (Quran 1:1-7)
this is the first page, fuck you.
>>695385721
Atheism isn't a belief, beliefs revolve around having no evidence. Atheists know there isn't a God because 1. there's no evidence that there is one and 2. there is evidence that directly disproves popular religions like Christianity.
>>695385378
So I was being mean. Boo hoo
>>695385721
Agnostics are just homos who think they're smart for answering the question "do you believe in God " with "you can never know". Faith isn't about proof. It's like answering "what time is it?" With "a ham sandwich" and then going online and telling everyone how smart you are
>>695385258
And why are those people christian? Oh yes because the English used to literally rule the world. A CHRISTIAN EMPIRE. Get into a book tardea.
>>695385572
I'm white, with blonde hair and blue eyes. Can you say with confidence you aren't a shitskin?
>>695383611
>dangerous
Christianity is dangerous, but not more dangerous than radical Islam right now. Does it have the potential to be more dangerous? Sure, I guess.
>>695385794
>lol every book has parts about killing people that disagree with you guise
>>695385888
Correct even though you sound 12
>>695385965
No has parts that can be taken out of context, and also not taken literally.
>>695385947
nope, you're a nigger with shit opinions
>>695377641
... keep a copy of it on you. And then show them.
>>695385477
Why do you think the blacks are lagging behind the rest of us?
>>695386012
does this sound better? ill stop typing properly now
>>695385640
I get what you are saying, but the war against terror caused much more damage than terrorism itself.
Its the war on drugs all over again. A propaganda tool designed to keep the US in a war like and fearful state.
There might've been instances were force was applied with an overall beneficial effect. This is not one of them.
>>695385221
the old testament describes man failed attempt to recreate paradise as gods of their own faith. that is why there is so much cruelty because thats what happens when humans try to force other people to be good.
communists and muslims are both living as man did in the old testament, that is why they are so cruel all while believing they are doing good.
Islam is (to my knowledge) the only religion to not have had a major revival and reconstruction like Christianity has had several times.
Crusades again when?
>>695385888
Theist = believes in God or a higher power
Atheist = believes that there is no god nor higher power.
Agnostic = doesn't believe either way, undecided, or doesn't think about it.
>>695385947
We were trying to save them. We gave them god. built hostpitals, invented electricity some of them now use. I say we were pretty good to them.
>>695377641
Why are making claims about it if you don't even know? You're as stupid as they are.
>>695385957
It is more dangerous in the sense that Christian America has killed far more Muslims than Muslims have killed Christians. More people have died at the hands of Christians than any other religion in history. Get off of Fox news and into a history book. I sincerely feel bad for anyone ignorant enough to buy into the propagandist nature of the liberal media.
>>695386184
Theist = Is convinced there is a God
Atheist = Is not convinced
>>695386090
But then he'll be labeled as a douchebag rather than simply a man who dislikes islam.
The idea with arguing with normies about religion is that you wait for them to bring the topic to you so that it doesn't seem like YOU'RE the one that wants to fight.
>>695386099
I don't see what that has to do with anything but I can answer it anyways. Africans are genetically intellectually inferior to all other major races.
>>695386184
I know a lot of people who go to church who are by that definition. Agnostic xD
>>695385900
> b8
I wasn't complaining about you insulting me, I was explaining how language can be used to achieve different results.
The concept of a soul is meant to distinguish yourself from others and dehumanize them.
The concept of evolution isn't meant to exclude and isn't meant to dehumanize a certain group of disbelievers.
>>695385553
I will agree that that is a fundamental problem of Islam: it's a religion of conquest.
Most other religions were thought up by poor assholes who just wanted to get by without causing much trouble, but eventually they got hijacked by powerful people with an agenda.
Islam on the other hand, started off with that agenda.
>>695386184
congratulations you made up your own definition for something. once again, a belief revolves around no evidence. atheism has an overwhelming amount of evidence.
>>695379264
Where the fuck is the part about the beheading you lying fuck
>>695386303
Nope, Atheist is convinced there is NOT a god, hence the "A" added to the root word theist.
>>695386028
yeah calls for all infidels to be killed or enslaved can be taken so out of context
>>695386397
That's very true.
>>695384360
The only one for Jesus was the last one, and that one wasn't supported by the pope.
>>695386436
Look, I am not trying to argue with anyone. I just want people to know I think they have souls. And that atheists act like they are better than most of the people on the planet. Which they are not, especially by their usual standards.
>>695386217
Controlling a society and saving it are not the same thing. The British Empire has been kicked out of every civilized country that it once controlled and for good reason. Your opinion is based on the bias idea that belief in a God is a good thing to have for an enlightened culture. Which it is not.
>>695386489
>Atheism has evidence to prove a negative
how does that work
>>695386490
Go to Syria and tell them you don't believe in Sunni Islam. I am sure they will find a way to justify the inevitable beheading.
>>695381101
So white people are just as bad then. Got it.
>>695386687
The specific belief I was getting at was, white people are great. And brown people are bad. Usually because what people have Jesus and Brown people do not.
>>695386745
Where
Is
The
Part
About
Beheading?
This isn't a difficult question.
>>695386489
>made up a definition
Nope: http://grammarist.com/usage/agnostic-atheist/
>>695377641
>I told them the Quran teaches about beheading non believers and cutting the hands off thieves.
Whereas the Bible "only" teaches that they should be stoned to death (Deuteronomy 17), "put to the sword" (Deuteronomy 12), or that the entire male populace should be exterminated by genocide (Numbers 31).
and as for thieves, well, the bible says that they should be sold into slavery. Lovely.
So, have you also explained how dangerous Christianity is?
>>695386070
And you are 12. What's your point? Go suck on your jesus shaped dildo and cry some more.
>>695386566
Uh, no.
"A" means without, theism is the belief in god(s).
A+theism=without belief in god(s).
A+theism/=believes there is/are no god(s).
>>695386896
whatever you say nigger
>>695386908
wrong again....
http://grammarist.com/usage/agnostic-atheist/
>>695386836
One word. Buddhism. No Christian will ever be in the right when stacked next to your average buddhist. Once again your opinions are shit.
>>695386840
Verse 8:12
>Sahih International: [Remember] when your Lord inspired to the angels, "I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip."
>Yusuf Ali: Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them."
>>695382194
I did understand too, fuck off
>>695386908
A means without as in without gods not without beliefs in them pleb.
>>695385740
It just seems like you're very reluctant to say "This killings are a serious problem that we need to address". Christians aren't really the group that we should be reminding to learn from the past at the moment.
>>695387034
Bhudists live on in mud huts and don't ever have sexual relations with anyone. If we were all bhudists there would be no people left...
>>695386713
I should've worded that differently, what I meant was there is a plethora of evidence going against religions like Christianity.
>we know the big bang happened and that the universe was not created in 6 days or whatever it is
>we know humans evolved and were not magically formed out of clay
>there is no evidence that jesus existed
>the list goes on
>>695387034
>No Christian will ever be in the right when stacked next to your average buddhist.
You've never actually been to Asia. You just have some sort of Platonic ideal in your imagination about peaceful, meditative Buddhists.
Lol
>>695386659
> back paddling
That's nice, you're free to believe that.
I just want people to know that their religion is most likely a propaganda tool or scam.
>>695387034
christianity and buddhism are similar religions. they were both created to unite empires after a period of conflict
>>695386752
>those tabs
>>695387119
Christains are great. We have so many chartities for so many other people. Find me a non profit charity org. from Muslims that Helps christians exclusively please
>>695386752
lol I'm actually the person who created that image. I feel proud of myself.
>>695387249
And your so free. Not believing in anything. Like an animal fr
>>695385911
no asshole, faith is believing you have a complete understanding of something. faith is trust. you have faith that two plus two is four, you without a fucking doubt believe that. Now if you try to justify killing people who don't agree you are being logical because logic is just adhering to a system of validity, it's being lawful. The problem is the laws/ideas/systems are variable just like people. Empathy and kindness are why I got in one little fight and my mom got scared and said you're moving with you auntie and uncle to Bel Air
>>695386170
NOW!
>>695386840
Muhammad Sarwar: Your Lord inspired the angels saying, "I am with you. Encourage the believers. I shall cast terror into the hearts of the unbelievers and you will strike their heads and limbs;
>>695387137
Are you saying reducing the population via peaceful means would be a bad thing? As overcrowded as the planet is?
>living in mud huts
Have you ever seen a bhuddist temple? It's a lot bigger and nicer than your shitty little house and has virtually no carbon footprint.
>>695387045
Nice source faggot
>>695386844
>some random website has a definition for something, must be true since it's in accordance with my own narrative!
>>695377641
Actually yes, I have read the Quran. It is all in there. So STFU!
>>695387430
I think faith is just believing that something exists or just believing that something will happen. I have faith.
>>695377641
Could you please cite these passages?
I also know some muslims and i wanna show them
I didn't even know shit like this is in there, never cared about ancient books
>>695387119
I don't consider terrorism in the west a serious problem. It kills far fewer people than any other serious health hazard.
I'm not saying christian should be humble and accept it. I'm saying be smart about it. Don't throw armies at the problem like last time. Try to deescalate instead of sending more troops.
Then again, where would be the profit in that, right?
>>695387026
Or, maybe you could look at the definition Google gives, and not one that's tailored to support your position.
>>695387242
>never been to Asia
>the largest religion in Asia is Islam with approx. 1.1 billion adherents
>>695387480
>Carbon footprint. Oh shit this fag believes in no air conditioning.
And if your so dedicated to saving the planet and reducing the population why don't you kill yourself.
>Or go on rampage then become an hero
>>695387081
Google gives a breakdown of the word which matches what I've said.
>>695387486
>http://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=8&verse=12
>>695387252
buddhism is a philospophy not a religion.
>>695387396
> generic insult
>>695386890
>So, have you also explained how dangerous Christianity is?
Show where Christians are doing this.
Because I can sure as fuck show you where Muslims are.
>>695382026
I bet you live in France.
>>695382194
Everyone understood but you. Who's the autistic faggot now ?
>>695386890
No Christian suicide bombers?
I don't think their is anything wrong with believing that god created us. And that he did that for a reason. Maybe he wants us to serve him, why else would he create us? He didn't have too.
>>695387160
Again, where is the evidence for the big bang, evolution or that Jesus didn't exist even though we base a lot of our knowledge about that time on books that name him?
You can believe the big bang happened but to say it's an irrefutable truth is simply wrong because without evidence you can't know.
>>695382408
top kek
>>695387751
It's true you keyboard monkey
>>695387657
>why don't you go on a killing spree
Because im not a Muslim or a Christian
>>695382422
from pic :
>Is he able, but not willing ? Then he is malevolent.
Bullshit, malevolent means wanting evil, the stance Epicurus describes is neutral
>>695387760
Christians don't do this at least not today. And when we were doing it, so was everyone else.
>>695383041
at one point in the bible, if i remember correctly, there's a dwarf that help a Dragon queen.
>shits anon could have said
>>695381538
Buddhism equal to Muslim
Got it.
>>695387905
How else would you reduce the population?
>>695387874
>because you can't prove something it must be true
There is insurmountable evidence that evolution did in fact occur and little to no evidence in favor of the idea that the earth is 4000 years old and created by a magical floating head
>>695387480
>has virtually no carbon footprint.
Except for the constantly burning incense fires. Pfft .
>>695382422
The horribly flawed logic here always bothered me. You cannot prevent evil without preventing free will which in turn means the subjugation of all existence. The only way to allow freedom is to allow the evils born of choice.
>>695387945
Yes malevolent means wanting evil and if God is able to prevent evil but does not, that means he wants it there.
Stupid faggot
>>695382458
Christians are followers of Jesus Christ they do not follow the old testament as closely as the new testament. You will see "Christians picking and choosing out of the old testament" (things like getting tattoos being bad) but you won't see them picking and choosing from the new testament.
>>695387983
So you implicitly admit that modern Chrisitians are civilized, and modern Muslims are savages who are stuck in the 11th century.
Ok then.
>>695387742
>buddhism
they believe in souls, spirits and rebirth which cant be proven
>>695387550
>inb4 beheaded
>>695387874
...I'm saying it happened because it had evidence, you fucking retard.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aPStj2ZuXug
If you want evidence for evolution you can research it yourself, there is an overwhelming amount of it.
http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence
Also, my evidence that Jesus didn't exist is the fact that there is no evidence that he did exist. The burden of proof is on you.
>>695388193
Hey, stupid faggot. See: >>695388169
You're not as smart as you think you are.
>>695378650
You mean like the verse "strike off their heads until you have crushed them completely; then bind the prisoners tightly."? You fucking heat crazed kamikaze little bitch. The Siras and Hadiths justify beheading in more detail but decapitation is rampant in Islamic script. Don't sit their and tell me your religion isn't completely fucked because it is
>>695388193
You look at thing myopically. God created us, and we could never be as perfect as him. What is not good is evil. So we are inherently evil. We do the evil, not god. So we should try to do as much good as we can. Thats why Christians are missionaries and build schools and stuff. Do good works to make jesus happy
>>695384693
Not even sure if this is bait.
>I can feel my soul
What the fuck is the feeling of a soul? how do you know it's that feeling and not another?
>>695388082
Lol
>>695388169
To allow anything that you do not want to happen to happen means that you have no power to stop it. Which would make God powerless to stop evil. Otherwise it is simply the illusion of choice we are provided with.
>>695388255
Yes!
>I am not the fag you are arguing with.
>Christian anon here.
>>695383027
Not him, but in the absolute, scale doesn't matter : there is still a retarded set of beliefs associated with Christianity that pushes imbeciles to harm others.
>>695380322
Muslims are stupid as fuck tho
kekekekekekke
christians aint
>>695384693
You could've just answered the question with "I have no evidence, I'm just a fucking retard"
>>695388438
You can feel it man. It's love, it is everything. What's not to feels
>>695388302
No theyre not violent
Maybe they just got taught that islam is good without even reading that shit
Im sure none of them have actually read it kek so if i show them i might be able to convince them
>>695379885
"strike off their heads until you have crushed them completely; then bind the prisoners tightly."
>>695388648
Nope, every emotion you have ever had or will ever have is just chemical reactions, not a soul.
>>695383617
Are you actually this uneducated or trolling? Everyone who keeps bringing up the crusades should bother picking up a history book sometime. The Crusades happened because the Eurocucks got tired of almost 300 years of mudslimes fucking killing their people and finally decided to do something about it. It was in retaliation to violence it was not the beginning. It was also politically motivated and had nothing to do with religion. The Catholic church was just used by the government and vice versa. Also, calling the catholic church "christian" is a joke.
>>695388623
That's what faith is. Believing in something that has no evidence. Like buying a lottery ticket, or betting on gambling. God is father, he just wants us to believe in him. Like if you had a kid, would you not want them to have trust and faith for what you would do?
>>695388169
I disagree.
There can still be free will without evil by simply not creating the people that will do evil things.
Or an even more radical solution: God is omnipotent, which means he can do anything. If that's the case, he can come up with any solution he wanted to and make it work regardless of whether it made sense or not. He could force 2+2 to equal 5 if he so pleased.
>>695388370
See
>>695388473
>>695388405
Oh yeah. This guy must be incredibly smart. I guess I start do good work make happy jesus. Illiterate fucker.
>God created us. We are evil. Therefore God is evil
Your cyclical logic has failed you again
>>695385014
Also important to know that a standard koran's chapters aren't in chronological order. When you put them in the proper order, all of the violent shit is at the end.
>>695388740
But beyond that? You try to simplify complicated things. So there are chemicals, but can you explain why?
>>695388784
>have trust and faith for what you would do
Hell no. He needs to learn to think, decide, and plan for himself. What if he thinks that just because I'm trustworthy the same is true of other adults? Suddenly his grade school teacher has him bent over the desk and he figures its for the best because he was taught trust by the world's more irresponsible parent.
Why does god create non-believers if he hates them and wants them killed?
Discuss anons
>>695388784
Having faith in your parents' good nature isn't wrong at all, the problem is that you're comparing that to believing that some supreme all powerful entity created everything and if you don't pray to that entity that you will suffer in agony for eternity with no evidence whatsoever.
>>695388500
jesus never told anyone to bomb an abortion clinic. they do it because they follow their own human morals as described in the old testament. muhammed on the other hand was very specific how to murder sinners or rape them, or mutilate them
>>695388949
Occam's razor.
>>695388858
Has nothing to do with smart. It's about wisdom. If you do good things then you feel good. If you do bad things then you feel bad. Thats where the word Conscience derived from you fucking shillard
>>695388949
There are chemicals because we evolved to have them you fucking retard.
>>695388979
People are retarded. Good luck planning fro yourself moron.
>>695389006
It's not about praying. You pray for other people, or for things to get better. You don't pray to not go to hell. You ask for forgiveness. If I was god and you fucked with my I would volcano your ass
