what's your excuse for not driving manual?
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what's your excuse for not driving manual?
>>695101635
rush hour traffic.
>>695101635
I didn't literally just buy a manual car, so I'm not inclined to come to /b/ and talk mad shit about driving automatic like some kind of jackass going full-native on his own kind.
I don't drive.
>>695101635
my dick is big enough already
>>695101635
used to drive manual, now i drive a dct which is superior in performance in everyway, except "muh enjoyment"
I used to drive manual, then I saw the light.
What's your excuse for still using outdated technology? Do you browse /b/ in DOS too?
>>695101635
I'm a woman
>>695103769
Pics or it didn't happen.
>>695101635
i am lazy as shit when driving
>>695101635
I'm not trying to compensate for anything
>>695101635
I've evolved
>>695103701
Na he is browsing /b on his typewriter
2016 whats your excuse for not using floppy disks instead of WIMPY 2 TB external USBs?
Because my yamaha r1 is amazing.
my 2017 sti arriving this sunday
>>695101635
Never understood the enjoyment of driving stick shift my mom used to complain about it all the time never even bothered learning it
>>695103769
Flop them titties out you know the rules
>not driving a manual
> being a man
Pick one
>>695104099
Always loved motorcycles can't drive them cause to blind and clumsy
>>695101635
This is idiotic. Its old. All the "benefits" of manual have been dis proven. Gas mileage is near the same. "More Control" over the car is in the drivers head.
"Less wear and tear" has also been debunked. Driving a manual is just stupid. Manuals are for senior citizen posers who want to pretend they are Mario Andretti on their way to work at 7/11
>>695104210
your picture is upside down
>manual
Not all manufacturers make cars with manual transmission. Mercedes for one...
>>695101635
none, i drive them cos im a fucking man
>>695104478
>t.not a mechanic
Why? Even the fastest cars in the world (Nascar) do not use a manual.
Why fuck up your driving experience? To feel cool?
>>695104210
Awesome pic, nigger. You can drive a stick but can't figure out a camera.
>>695101635
I have a personal driver.
>>695104364
Motorcycles are amazing, wouldnt drive anything else.
>>695104604
>>695104210
>>695101635
Pathetic samefag.
>>695104364
penefastico
>>695104655
F1 cars are manual
>>695101635
I don't need any dildos in my car
>>695104655
driving automatic is fucking up your driving experience
mfw autofags will never know the joy of shifting at 8000rpm
>>695104881
Have fun having your legs ripped off and dying slowly on the side of the road while people take pictures.
>>695102792
>not using A/C to control speed
99% of cars I. Uk are manual. What gives
>>695101635
SMG
Nice try with the B8
I give you 2/10
>>695104478
there are plenty of reasons
hell just saving on brakes it cool. While the car in front of me holds his brakes down for the longest time to come to a stop I just downshift and ride it out
>>695104655
Nascar's are manual you fucking retard.
>>695101635
>>695104478
i dont have a car
but either way, i dont care, a car is to get from A to B, i dont really care wether its automatic or manual shifting (can drive both ofc). if i want to have fun i drive a motorcycle, and motorcycles are manual ofc (there are few automatic, but they suck)
as for auto vs manual
automatic is easy as fuck and you can basically drive asleep, manual is better if you drive more fun oriented as you can use your engine to break or keep your engine in higher rpm where automatic would shift
>>695105043
What the fuck ever, not like our little 120 hp engines will ever spin that fast, let alone need manual trannys. Speaking of tranny's, OP, are you gay?
>>695101635
Because im not a poorfag, ergo I have paddle shift.
I always find Amerifats obsession with manuals hilarious. Everyone drives a manual here, it's the norm. After having driven an automatic I will never go back, don't be a peasant and get a car with paddles if you want to feel cool.
>>695101635
Autos are faster. Autos are easier in traffic. Autos are easier on long road trips. In autos I can drive with my left and finger your girl with my right
>>695104991
No, they are semi automatic. You manually use the clutch only for the first gear.
>>695101635
Manual driving supreme race reporting in
>>695101635
All the cars I've har are manual except for the car I drive to work now. Other car has Moss box and car is RHD so fuck off
>>695105300
I drive a s2k during the summer season, friend. I can easily shift at 8k rpm
>>695103769
Tits or....
Can you coast in a automatic like a manual where you put your foot on the clutch and roll Down hills instead of using your engine and precious fuel.....
>>695103701
I'm browsing /b/ on a calculator.
>>695105118
>A/C to control speed
what how?
>>695105418
it depends on the car. Manual can gain speed faster by staying in lower gears while auto shift well automatically
>>695101635
because I can afford automatic, poorfag.
>>695104538
Uhm. Mercedes do make manual.
>>695101635
I live in an area with a lot of steep hills. Like, emergency brake required (as a second clutch) at all stops kind of hills.
>>695101635
Because I like replacing the transmission in my 2005 buick enclave every couple of months, due to it's constant automatic shifting.
>>695105645
STFU
>>695104538
Mercedes makes manual cars. My coworker had a manual Mercedes. amg I believe
>>695104538
being this amerifag
>>695105216
So you use your clutch as a brake instead of your brake pads. GENIUS
Because i drive a real manual. If you cant drive without a sychro you're still a pussy ass bitch
>>695105714
AC on = more rpm.
>>695105679
>Can you coast in a automatic
Yes, when you release the gas pedal, the engine is disconnected from the wheels.
>>695106112
>wut is engine breaking
>>695101635
>driving a car
kek enjoy your stop n go
t. superior trainfag
>>695105504
Alahu Ahkbar?
>>695106176
air condition?
I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND
>>695106112
it's not the clutch you massive retard holy shit you're dumb
I bet when the mechanic tells you that he needs to change your headlight fluids you tell him sure
>>695103300
Fucking loser
>>695101635
quadriplegic, and have to drive with hand controls, so no hands available to shift.
>>695101635
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>>695105504
I bet your cock is huge...
>>695105714
A/C off = low idle RPM
A/C on = high idle RPM
I found this trick out when I went to the Los Angeles area and got stuck in stop and go traffic and didn't want to slip my clutch the entire time.
>>695104538
Why did you just lie? Just curious.
>>695106594
But is it a stick shift?
>>695101635
I'm just not a car guy. Driving isn't fun to me, and I don't feel any need to make it fun. It's just a thing I do to get around, and the car itself is just a tool for that purpose. I drove an old toyota pickup for about six months that was a manual, so I learned how, but I didn't care for it. I prefer letting the car shift gears by itself. If you enjoy cars and driving more than I do then by all means have fun with your manual. I don't have autism so I feel no need to criticize that choice of yours.
>>695106630
I had no idea man, thnx for clarifying.
>>695103701
Im browsing /b/ on my bible
>>695106597
you're thinking of people who drive oversized trucks, not manual cars. Typical dumb automatic driver. Braindead driving for the braindead
>>695105752
>implying you can't stay in high rpms in an auto
Top zozzle
>>695106827
So, how many cocks do you put in your ass at the same time? I bet three or more
>>695106392
>>695106258
BOTH OF YOU GUYS ARE FUCKING RETARDED
ENGINE BRAKING PUTS UNDUE STRESS ON YOUR CLUTCH AND TRANSMISSION AND IS WORSE FOR YOUR FUEL ECONOMY OVERALL
These elitist manual driving fucks are pissing me off
Automatics are just boring to drive.. this is fact
>>695101635
Actual race cars that aren't silhouette cars don't use standard transmissions.
>>695101635
I bet you little shit can't even drive a REAL manual.
Pic related.
>>695103701
I'm browsing /b/ on a chalk board.
>>695105883
You are excused.
>>695103663
You're probably not racing your car on a track so why isn't your enjoyment more important than a few milliseconds in shift time?
>>695107223
Driving those make me want to kill myself. I like my car
>>695101635
>forever 12
>>695107088
1/5 ain't even FULLER
>>695102792
How is rush hour traffic a problem for manual? Leave it in 1st, and sit on the clutch pedal, much like you would on a brake in an automatic.
>>695107143
this. only trucks need engine breaking bc brakes can overheat. It's retarded to engine break with a car.
>>695107451
When you got the one footer clutch it sucks
>>695103701
I'm browsing /b/ on teletext
>>695104099
Your bike is a manual transmission, just a different shifting system.
>>695107443
Whut?
>>695103701
I'm browsing /b/ on a sundial.
>>695101635
I don't want to work while I drive.
>>695107143
You're a moron. Not if you downshift to the same rpm you were in before. If you go from 3000 to 7000 then yeah thats bad. 3000 to 3000 does absolutely no damage
>>695107105
My butt is for pooping, anon.
>>695107697
Woah
>>695107789
How do you do that?
>>695101635
The automatic drive is an american thing. Europeans drive manual.
>>695108050
by timing the downshift right. If you're in 4th and you're going slow enough to go to 3rd then go for it. If you drive you car enough you'll know the sweet spot for gas/clutch ratio to downshift perfectly everytime and nobody in the car would ever even know you downshifted. if you're going highway speed and decide to drop it to 3rd then yeah that's obviously horrible
>>695106855
no problem
pro tip: If you've got a car with little power and are going up a hill and want to go faster, turn off your A/C.
Reason: The air conditioner compressor uses about 10-15 HP. <<<This is why the idle RPM goes up when A/C is on.
>>695103701
I'm browsing /b/ on the walls of pyramids.
Manuals are just more fun for pretty much anyone who knows how to use them, there is no need for any other reason.
The same reason I don't use a typewriter.
>>695108050
Downshifting you can't. Upshifting you rev the engine gently up a little over the same rpm, let off gas a little, shift into next gear when desired rpm is hit.
>>695108441
>all these anons claiming to drive manual
>dont even know how to down shift properly
>>695101635
Because the car I bought is automatic.
Simple, really.
>>695107696
has to be 18 speed to call it a fuller
>>695106150
>10 speed
>real manual
i lol'd
>>695108958
Thats gotta be the dumbest shit I've heard today
>>695108976
If you can drive a 10 you can drive an 8
Id love to have a car with manual. Right now im learing to drive to get my license, took me about 30 minutes to get used to manual gearbox (start moving, shifting gears) Aint that har after all
>>695106150
ok, I thought I drove manual, but this...WHAT IS THIS?!
>>695101635
>Using outdated tech makes me a man
>>695106112
>Nigger doesnt even engine braking..
>>695109221
Its an unsynchro'd 10 speed for an 18wheeler. You have to manually synch each gear before you shift by getting the rpms right.
WTF is it with this fascination with manual transmissions? It's easy as fuck so it doesn't make you special and there's nothing "masculine" about rowing a fucking shift lever. If that's important to your masculinity, you are a faggot in denial. Anyone can easily learn to drive stick if they have a REASON.
Following that masculinity logic, any of you who can't drive a car with a hand crank starter, manual ignition advance, lever operated carburetor, and pedal operated transmission are flamers. People have been driving Model T Fords for more than a century so if you can't you are clearly an ass pirate.
>>695109183
>If you can drive a 10 you can drive an 8
the fact that you think that is an 8 tells me that you dont even know how to drive a truck.
>>695109404
mind = blown
I live in London. Driving at all is horribly inefficient here.
>>695108441
You can technically shift without clutch, but it's reallynot advisable to do this in, for example, a sedan. The synchros and gear teeth will get prematurely worn and possibly damaged. A clutch is designed to take the wear and is much cheaper to replace than gears and synchros.
>>695101635
Because my hands are already busy eating a bacon cheesburger and catching pokemon.. I dont have time to be manually shifting gears
>>695109443
Suck a cock anon 16 speeds have no practicality
>>695109423
>tl;dr
I totally agree.
I drive a manual
I'm a girl
Who doesn't show her tits
>>695101635
Because I drive a diesel e350 van. My other vehicle is manual at least.
but I do drive a stick
>>695107599
if in a car and you use compression braking(engine braking) in combination with friction braking(the pedal to the left of the one that makes it go aka the throttle) you can stop in a much shorter distance than any car with an automatic.
>>695107599
>only trucks need engine breaking bc brakes can overheat
Which trucks would those be? Pickup trucks don't need engine braking unless they are ancient feeble drum front braked antiques.
>>695109646
>16
wrong again.
>>695109675
Shut up the fuck up, you fat bitch.
>>695109646
Heavy haul?
>>695103701
I'm browsing /b/ by smoke signal.
>>695109805
I'm not fat. I'm thick in all the right places faggot
>>695109707
Yes, and being able to control the torque to the wheel can give much better control in hazardous weather conditions.
>>695108976
8x 2 H&L= 16 nigger cant count or is counting lo and reverse like a nigger
>>695103701
I'm browsing /b/ on my nigger
>>695101635
10-speed
>>695109646
>Suck a cock anon 16 speeds have no practicality
They are specified for good reason because they aren't cheap. YOU not having a use case is irrelevant.
>>695109805
Funny how you know who I am from that. Send me a pic
>>695109872
Only for loads you cant actually take on the road
>>695104515
He's just in Australia esse
>>695108854
Isnt all that common sense though? What is all this crap im seeing in these threads?
>>695109896
Says the 45 year old man
>>695101635
>Drive manual
>Volvo
>Sensor clutch
Fuuuuuuuuckkkkkkkkk fuck fuck fuck fuck
>>695101635
I like to doze off at the wheel and Manual won't allow me to do that.
>>695109975
>>695103701
I'm browsing /b/ on a manual.
>>695101635
Electric engine
>>695109969
18 forward gears dumbass.
>>695109786
Big Rigs not pickup trucks, Retard
>>695103701
i'm browsing /b/ on firefox. lol do i win guise?
>>695109969
Lo counts, it is a forward gear, reverse is the only thing that doesn't.
>>695110014
Who are you trying to reply to?
>>695110185
>counting Lo like a nigger
>>695108854
you got this backwards. you give the car LESS rpms when upshifting, and MORE when downshifting.
>>695107143
What is rev matching
>>695106222
Dumbass
>>695106471
End yourself.
>>695104655
>fastest cars in the world
>NASCAR
Shit.... My sides.... What the fuck are you doing to them???!!!
NASCAR - top speed recorded 217mph
F1 - top speed recorded 233mph (and this not on a gay oval track)
>>695110262
Only if it was netscape
>>695101635
I live in a country where the engineers are competent enough to build automatics. Fag.
>>695108588
So won't that just slow you down
>>695101635
>manual
>real man
>manual
>manual
>manual
I cut the god damn floor out of my car. I pick the car up with my arms and fucking run with it. It doesn't get any more manly or manual than that
get on my level, faggots
>>695106222
then why does your car creep forward when you release the gas from a stop, retard?
itt: kids talking out of their asses
>>695110375
Yes, you are correct. I have dyslexia (seriously) so I skip and/or rearrange words in sentences sometimes.
>>695101635
>what's your excuse for not driving manual?
Because what i have to do and where i have to go is more important than your insecure gay beard and quinoa mocha latte you "alpha" nu-male idiot.
>>695107451
And now you need a new clutch
Mechanic'd
>>695110286
Counting Lo like an autistic nigger
>>695110540
>it takes more engineering to build a manual than auto
>>695110562
>release the gas from a stop
wat
>>695110513
Top fuel dragsters clear 300 in a quarter mile, that one jet car broke the sound barrier.
>>695101635
Two reasons
1. I live in a busy ass city where a manual is completely worthless.
2. The trasmission in my automatic is vastly superior.
Look, if I had a toy I could drive on the back roads I'd want a stick, but fuck stick shifts for daily driving in traffic.
>>695101635
I can't drive manual and catch pokemon at the same time bro
>>695110562
Lol. Obviously these plebs haven't mastered driving a manual.
>>695108588
No, no it doesn't
Mechanic'd
>>695110297
its a 18 speed transmission.
i didn't name it that.
thats just what it is called.
because it has 18 forward gears.
>>695104538
Citation needed
>>695110731
If your stopped and you let go of the brake what happens?
>>695101635
There's no reason to.
>>695101635
resale value
>/thread
faggots
>>695107378
because i actually track my car
do you still believe in not using synchros? and double clutching?
technology progresses for a reason
>>695105992
Gtfo
>>695110850
Its still pretty much useless and still the same concept as any unsynchro'd tranny
>>695103701
I'm browsing /b/ on my imagination.
>>695104991
Not really though. I mean you clutch to get going, but everything else is a sequential flappy paddle.
>>695110959
manuals have higher resale value though
>>695110807
Man, I can shift, eat taco Bell, drink mountain dew, be on the phone and catch Pokémons all at the same time. What's your excuse?
>>695110552
A/C off = more power to the wheels = more torque to fight wind resistance and gravity
>>695110557
Underrated post
>>695105216
That kinda chews up your clutch bro....
>>695110879
It rolls forward
I'm just curious what happens when you release the *gas* from a stop which is what you said
>>695103424
>>695107451
That puts a lot of stress on your clutch having it engaged for that long just put it in neutral and coast then slide it back into gear when you need power back
>>695111069
not in the US, dipshit
>>695109685
Insert toyobaru meme here
>>695101635
I don't love by old rules someone stupid taipught you.
Pretty soon we won't even have to use auto tranny
>>695108958
>not even 22 speed
Enjoy your toy
>>695111201
this guy
>>695106222
lrn2torque-converter
I drive an automatic to spite you specifically, OP. Get fucked, faggot.
>>695110839
You obviously are a terrible mechanic then, because most cars have belt driven compressors which put extra load on the engine when in use. Turn off AC = less load = slightly more HP
>>695101635
Only insecure cucks drive manual
>>695111218
I wasnt the other anon, just clarifying what he meant for ya
>>695111262
Yes in the us faggot
>>695106880
>shift
Legit laughed out loud
soundcloud.com/ronniescholarship
>>695103701
>not having your main on 4rock
>>695110746
Even better than F1 - though the lack of steering for me renders these ineligible (I'm sure there's 'steering for minor corrections, but we're not talking taking corners here).
Something designed for a specialist purpose (eg: going fast in a straight line) will always beat something designed for general purpose (straights plus corners).
Either way - still shows nascar is far from the fastest cars out there.
>>695110839
Explanation?
>>695111351
What the fuck is that picture?
>>695101635
I save money so I don't have to replace my clutch gear every month
>>695101635
>695101635
https://discord.gg/012OE9ge1GbnLicdx
come jon b chat
>>695106222
You dumb piece of shit. Releasing the gas pedal does not disconnect the engine from the wheels. What do you think NEUTRAL does then?
>>695101635
cant afford a sports car, and its 2016, they dont make normal cars manual any more
I drive a 5 speed everyday and it's awesome.
>>695111170
You are wrong
Mechanic'd
>>695101635
I do though. It's all I've ever driven.
>>695111685
no anger here, just didn't want to type.
>>695111679
If you don't drive your manual like a faggot then you won't have to change though so often. My 2007 car still has the factory clutch working in good condition because I don't drive like a faggot and know when to push and release the clutch properly.
>>695106471
kek
>>695111239
This is correct
Mechanic'd
>>695109685
Does the little stick control altitude?
>>695111201
Not to mention brake pads and rotors are much fucking easier and cheaper to replace than a clutch and often a slave cylinder along with paying to resurface your flywheel.
Most original buyers won't wear out an automatic before they sell the vehicle.
>>695111642
There are a couple production cars that will do about 260.
all day every day
>>695104478
Driving a manual doesn't make you anymore or any less of a man. That being said,I own two cars. One is manual,is is auto/paddle shift. The auto id for boring errands.tired...the manual is for fun. No judgement if you don't,just underrstand that some drivers are enthusiasts.
>>695101635
>gender-based shaming
Someone is insecure.
>>695111864
Please explain.
>>695111884
Sghjk
>>695111545
Econoboxes are worth less in the us if they are stick. (Camry, versa, fiesta)
"Sporty" cars sell for more with a stick (Miata, vette, civic SI)
>>695101635
I don't have my own car, I learned how to drive on a stick though
>>695111530
AC compressor load is trivial unless your engine is microscopic, but fast idle speeds up the pump so they work better in traffic. Low engine RPM = low compressor RPM.
>>695105679
Wears out your throwout bearing don't do that
>>695111530
Extra load on the engine yes, 10-15hp losses no.
Even if it did that horse power is not magically released to the wheels
>>695107088
first step in doing meth and fucking lot lizards.
>>695101635
i'm not autistic
try drivng rally with automatic
lol you can't!!!
try work your way out of mud or the beach
or a deep hole with automatic
protip you fucking can't
aut gear is the reason i sold my car
it sucked end of this stupid tread
manual is win and maskuline
aut is fail gay and for cunt's
the end.
fuck off homo's
if you think driving a manual makes you cool or superior in anyway you're probably 14
>inb4 i cant
>i drive a manual piece of shit truck
>>695101635
I love how women are insulting themselves in pic related
man - skill = woman
If you're boyfriend uses a GUI on his computer he's not your boyfriend. He's a ghost whooOOOooooo~
That's what you sound like, OP.
>>695112410
Maybe in the 80s/90s
Nobody in here has mentioned that you can clutch start a manual. If you are in an automatic and your battery and/or starter are fucked? You get towed. Drive a manual? Clutch start it and drive to a mechanic or fix it yourself. Manual = Superior reliability.
>>695103701
I'm browsing /b/ on my abacus
>>695105883
So you just rev up, release the clutch slowly and when you feel it kicking in you release the brake, bara bim bara boom. No excuse for using manual faggt
>>695101635
I drive a Tesla. I've moved forward.
>>695104604
very definition of overcompensating.
>>695101635
whats your excuse for being poor and having to have a manual
do you fuck drive 4x4?
lo - hi?
not much difference with that truck shifter posted above except hi range is always for road and trail and lo is to get you arse out of the shit
>>695101635
right, cause masculinity requires you know how handle a stick and put it into different slots. <_< definitely the defining characteristics of masculinity. U_U generation wtf, man.
>>695112705
Have fun when you lose all that money you saved on gas buying a new battery when it wont recharge anymore
>>695112084
Right, because all metaphors and analogies always change with the times we live in, which haven't changed. Right.
>>695112293
Not everyone drives an expensive manual car. You gain more HP by turning off the AC compressor on most manuals. Some cars though it doesn't matter as much.
>>695112713
not OP but I drive a manual 09 SI. Bought it brand new in 2009. The manual version was much more expensive than the auto and the manual version sells for far more than the auto
>>695103701
i'm browsing /b/ on my commodore 64
>>695112565
unless you have a steep hill nearby, this does NOT work, kiddo
>>695112949
Most cars it is negligible
Ride a horse.
>>695112336
I never said 10-15 HP. That wasn't me. Extra HP is released to the wheels (HP = potential to do work) on most manuals on the road. Like I said to another anon, not everyone drives an expensive manual car. There's more 4 cylinder manuals out there than any other.
>>695112914
Yeah, I'm not a retard so I build my own battery packs too. Usually spend around $400 every three years building them. Also built my own power wall and converted my Honda to electric. Nigger, gas is for morons.
>>695112293
Many vehicles have a WOT cutout which disengages the electric AC compressor clutch during acceleration. The 1970s are ancient history.
>>695113131
Negative. I have clutch started many times on flat surface. You have to push car jump in and drop the clutch. I have even clutch started by myself on a flat surface.
>>695113131
Buddy I can bump start a manual in 2nd gear pushing the car myself to 5mph on a flat in around 20ft
Mechanic'd
back in the 60's
>buy mustang or any other sport cars
>very good v8 engine
>much power much wow
>buy the one with an automatic shift because for the lulz
>>695113131
I helped my friend do this just a few days ago. We pushed it a little bit on flat, he jumped in and started it up. No hills in sight
>>695113417
Good job anon you're a real man
>>695113444
Was a luxury thing back then
>I'm so fawnceee with my cruise-o-matic
>manual plebs
>>695101635
I can drive a stick, my first two cars had manual transmissions. But now I can afford an automatic, I do most of my personal driving in stop and go traffic, so a manual would be annoying, and my job involves a good bit of driving, so I don't really drive for enjoyment any more.
>>695113444
They still run Powerglides at the strip for good reason. Those transmissions are beasts. Also TH 400 and C-6.
>>695103701
I'm browsing /B/ on my game.com
>>695101635
I have better things to think about.
>>695101635
I drive 2 hours for work every day fuck that.
>>695113440
Mechanic here too. Correct.
>>695113417
>>695113440
I've never had it work before, I've tried several times without success
does it not work on diesels? it was a jetta TDI
>>695101635
learned how to drive on a Tesla and never went back. Amerifag so manual isn't as common either.
>>695101635
>implying this even matters
>>695113216
Potential horse power as in on a piece of fucking paper. In the real world you're not getting more power to go up that hill when you turn of the A/C. I declare you a pleb!
Mechanic'd
Manualfag reporting for duty.
