Why don't we stop telling bullshit about Islam and have a proper buddhism hate thread?
Take a look at this sutta, for example:
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn05/sn05.002.olen.html
Buddhism have been promoting womens rights since 6 century BC. Buddhism = tumblr of religions.
>>694573767
Whats with all the goat fuckers trying to bash buddhists the last couple days?
feminazi's = tumblr =/= feminism
fucking mudslimes
>>694573767
Meh people hate tumblr because they advocate crazy shit like hating white people. I don't see the problem with Buddhism acknowledging women Buddhists.
>>694574497
this.
The problem is when you support A.
Supporting A and B, is the most ethical. Having feminism fight for men's right too would make me support it as it would seem they were fighting for human rights. 50% random opinion
>>694573767
>Why don't we stop telling bullshit about Islam
because it is necessary. because muslims want to violently spread their "religion". because they are doing it right now. and because A LOT of muslims doing it.
>buddhists
>idolatry
buddhists don't worship statues.
>Buddhism have been promoting womens rights since 6 century BC
that's a good thing you piece of shit.
>>694573767
replace the jew with a goat fucker and you have OP
>>694573767
>buddhist idolism
Buddhism supports anti-materialism, statues are a symbol of the wise not an idol
>Buddhism have been promoting womens rights since 6 century BC. Buddhism = tumblr of religions
feminazi =/= supporting equality. Did you only bring this up because in your country you don't allow women to go outside without dressing like a ninja?
>>694574352
Dunno, but they can have at it.
If someone finds anything wrong with buddhism it'll be a miracle of ingenuity.
OP knows nothing about Buddhism
>>694573767
Islam is a shit religion you damn Paki.
>>694575993
Woo hoo woo hoo
Where's Randy, we need pc bruhs
> try and prove me wrong faggots
-- Buddha, 2500 years ago.
Still waiting.
>>694576298
What year was 2500 years ago?
>>694576401
484 b.c
>>694575410
This
buddhism is violent. but they hate sandniggers and purge them often. therefore they have my support. the op is a fucking ass clown
>>694574352
>Whats with all the goat fuckers trying to bash buddhists the last couple days?
they want to turn the arguments against islam to arguments against any other religion, to make it look like quran is not outstanding in violence, xenophobia, sexism and all that shit. they want to make islam look like any other religion. but it doesn't work for anyone who read the quran/talked to muslims and compared it to the other religions
>>694576847
>buddhism is violent
how?
I got into buddhism a couple years ago and the only thing bad i can think about the philosophy (not a religion because atheism is one of the core beliefs) is that it can get kinda euphoric sometimes. But otherwise its a pretty chill school of thought.
>>694576847
non-violence is pretty central to zen buddhism. shinto (japanese) is also fairly spineless. Tibetan biddhists (like the dali llama) can be violent if pushed, but are jsut as much pussies as the rest of us honestly. Reminder that monks brush the road in front of them to move any bugs they might step on
>>694573767
>Why don't we stop telling bullshit about Islam and have a proper buddhism hate thread?
Because buddhists aren't agressors.
>>694576934
answer this. And don't bring up that ONE time, those buddhists killed a bunch of muslims AFTER they murdered one of their police officers.
>>694574497
pretty much this
>>694576401
Seriously?
>>694576941
>school of thought
>monks
>>694575316
women cant be monks, and have to work as servants to help the temple
>>694579063
it wasn't me who said that buddhists are feminists, op was. but if they were, it would be a good thing, right? i am pretty sure, buddhism compared to other religions like islam, treat women better.
>>694577371
again with all religions some are not all but some.
in Tibet the monks are the ruling class and the rest of the people were servants. that was until evil china kicked their dictator out and freed the people.
the monks don't have to do shit and they get brought feasts for them because they cant cook
cant have anything materialistic? who cares you walk around a garden telling people stupid shit to make people feel like they are spiritual and you live in a mansion.
>>694579418
nope. best religion for women is feminism
>>694579063
>women cant be monks, and have to work as servants to help the temple
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhikkhuni
>In Buddhism, women can openly aspire to and practice for the highest level of spiritual attainment. Buddhism is unique among Indian religions in that the Buddha as founder of a spiritual tradition explicitly states in canonical literature that a woman is as capable of nirvana as men and can fully attain all four stages of enlightenment.
>In a similar vein, major canonical Mahayana sutras such as the Lotus Sutra, chapter 12, records 6000 bhikkhuni arhantis receiving predictions of bodhisattvahood and future buddhahood by Gautama Buddha.
>>694579704
>enlightenment
>not a monk
still cant be a powerful monk
>>694579565
>nope. best religion for women is feminism
that doesn't make sense in at least two ways. i was not talking about feminists having to choose a religion, i was talking about the possible progress in buddhism being feminist
>>694579866
the only religion that you can say led to women being treated better is Christianity without a doubt.
hence the western world being the best for women
>inb4 fuck off christian
i'm not religious
>>694580059
i agree anon.
>>694573767
The Irony is, that OP is wasting his time. Any Buddhists seeing these threads will smile and move on, instead of arguing.
>>694580174
this thread is not about hating against buddhism, but about making islam look better. thatswhy we're arguing
ITT even more reasons to hate islum and mudslimes, as if it was needed..
>>694579704
Bhikhus aren't monks, you moron.
>>694580174
why do people think that because of the teachings of Buddhism its any better
every fucking religion says to turn the other cheek or some other shit in letting things go.
you only see western Buddhism as western people want you to see it as it makes them seem enlightened or spiritual. you do not see the truth. its the same shit as every other religion just in pretty wrapping but its still shit
>>694580692
>every fucking religion says to turn the other cheek or some other shit in letting things go.
except for islam.
Those disgusting inbreds are destroying anything historical that's not islamic.
>>694580811
yeah they say eye for an eye dont they? im sure you can cherry pick something nice from the qu'ran
wtf , buddhism is like the best religion on earth , while islam is a bunch of worthless barbaric subhumans
>>694580986
>im sure you can cherry pick something nice from the qu'ran
i don't have to. i read the quran in its entirety and therefore know what islam is all about. it sure says not, to love your enemy or to turn the other cheek. thats christianity. islam says to kill apostates for example.
and all the muslims i met have a sick idea of honour. any libel has to be avenged for them.
>>694580692
Do other religions hold evolution as part of their canon?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agga%C3%B1%C3%B1a_Sutta
>>694581491
what does that have to do with the religion being good, and i hope you don't think that's evolution because if you do your delusional.
>>694580986
>im sure you can cherry pick
that would mean, nobody ever could crticise the quran in a conversation. how can one cite a verse, if it can't be taken out of context? that would mean i have to copypaste the whole quran in here or cite the whole quran. stop immunizing your ideology by claiming that stupid line of "being out of context". read the context and you see, that these verse mean, what they mean.
>>694581832
? im not religious im just saying all religious texts usually have something in them that's good. it doesn't make the religion good.
i say cherry pick because thats what people so to defend themselves.
what i was trying to say was here >>694580692
just because Buddhism says nice things its not unique all religions say nice things and it does not make them good. so stop saying oh Buddhism is so great because its not its just as shit as every other religion
>>694580615
then what are they?
>>694579704
it even says in the wikipedia that they thought as on the same level as monks you retard
>>694582178
>>694580692
i'm pretty sure, buddhism in whole is better than islam in whole. i recommend you to compare their texts. quran is full of sexism, warmongering and xenophobia in a way never imaginable for buddhists
At the day of final judgement, I will laugh at you. Kıyamet is coming kafirs. You're all trying to demonize Islam yet there are more more converted people. Deal with it, Islam is the true religion
>>694582634
there is sexisim in Buddhism
and as to the violence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_violence
you can just look it up ideologies always cause conflict.
>>694582868
if islam is true then go blow yourself up and fuck your sky goat
>>694582868
can it be called demonizing, when a demon is demonized?
>>694582887
you can't read. i wrote:
>buddhism in whole is better than islam in whole
that means, there can be sexism in buddhism and still be better in whole. and it's quiet obvious really
>>694583032
Not THIS Islam. The peaceful one, suicide is strictly forbidden in our religion, like rebelling against a government
>>694582887
islam is worse. that is a line i always can use against muslims defending their "religion" by comparing it to other religions, it is always right.
>>694582868
Dirty erdogan indoctrinated turk spotted.
I feel sorry for the irreligious turks that they have to live in a country that gets more backwards every day.
>>694583379
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/18/turkish-radiohead-fans-attacked-istanbul
>>694583488
They deserved it. Even in our country they don't respect muslims, it's a shame.
>>694583148
ww2 the japanese suicide bombed killed raped. what more do you want, Buddhism supported that.
all religions are bad.
but if you want to go that way there are more Islamics than Buddhists so the percentage of evil is smaller compared to Buddhism.
>>694583250
there is no better or worse all religions are bad.
SubhaanAllah walhamduliLlah wala ilaha illAllah. Allahu akbar, the victory belong to Islam.
>>694583791
Shut up inbred mongoloid. Die from cancer.
>>694583818
>ww2 the japanese suicide bombed killed raped. what more do you want, Buddhism supported that.
islam is worse. all the sexism and warmongering and violence against everything that differs from islam is written down in the quran. it IS their religion. some guys that happen to be buddhists supporting anything bad is not the same as having this ideology as your religion
>>694573767
Buddhism is the true religion of peace; Islam is the religion of hate. This thread proves it..
>>694584055
Lol no you prove otherwise. Everyone is hating on muslims
>>694583818
>there is no better or worse all religions are bad.
yes there is. if the book of ones religion says to kill the infidels and subjugate women and people do it, it is worse than some buddhists doing something wrong
>>694573767
Haha Buddhism hate thread, that is hilarious
>>694584019
We want the caliphate.
>>694584053
japanes monks wrote scriptures supporting the war. as they do not have a single book of belief anyone in power can write one and say its the path to enlightenment. they trust in the monks as the islamics trust Muhammad.
>>694584197
as i just said the Buddhists have no book they have many scriptures which can be written by anyone in power who is "enlightened" this can be taken to the same effect as Muhammads teachings.
there is no one law what is wright and wrong is based on who is writing your scriptures and is teaching you them.
>>694584149
>Everyone is hating on muslims
Oh gee, I wonder why???
>>694584481
Just build more mosques then. These people just want to PRAY.
>>694584478
show me the one person that acts like this japanese monks wrote. see in comparison the thousands and thousands of muslims following the violent teachings of mohammed. i can write a book that is evil and claim, it's buddhist. does it cheapen buddhism and the buddhists? no. 2 billion muslims on the other hand have this one book and they believe it is gods word.
>>694573767
Actual muslim here, AMA.
>>694585056
the japanese in ww2
>In order to establish eternal peace in East Asia, arousing the great benevolence and compassion of Buddhism, we are sometimes accepting and sometimes forceful. We now have no choice but to exercise the benevolent forcefulness of 'killing one in order that many may live' - issatsu tashō
>Almost all Japanese Buddhists temples strongly supported Japan's militarization.
more modern Nissho Inoue led terrorist attacks for his new shiny buddhisim
other Buddhists include
>Phra Kittiwuttho
a Thai monk who said it was fine to kill communists which the people did.
>Since January 2004, the Thai government has converted Buddhist monasteries into military outposts, commissioned Buddhist military monks and given support to Buddhist vigilante squads
this
>anti Muslim riots from Buddhists in sri lanka
>other Sinhalese Buddhist nationalists
>>694585880
islam is worse
>>694584643
>Just build more mosques then
Or you people could just GTFO of my country and go back to your own country that is full of mosques...
>>694586056
Its not your own country mate, you dont own it.
Im >>694585843, self plug.
You're right. It's actually
feminizazi's=tumblr= 2nd and 3rd wave feminism
>>694585880
>We now have no choice but to exercise the benevolent forcefulness of 'killing one in order that many may live
seems pretty rational to me. where does the bad part come in?
>>694586229
>not your own country
But you people seem intent on destroying it eh?
Watch your words, the death is close. Don't say things that you could regret in the after life.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BH2DeSvh2KH/
>>694586229
if you divide us in groups, like the quran suggests, you can say without a doubt, that christians own the west and muslims do not
>>694586056
If you don't want muslims in your country think twice before colinizing them.
>>694586428
>death is close
Bring it faggot, not scared of any of you mudslimes
>>694573767
yhea, muslims sucks pork cocks.
>>694577287
shinto is not buddhism. it's a completely different thing. also, fyi it's dalai lama, not llama.
>>694586541
i keep saying this over and over. Thank you for having some sort of rationality in there
Like if we dont want sandniggers, how bout we stop destabilizing where they are from. That just makes them extreme or it makes them want to move.
Christ white people are so stupid sometimes
>>694586541
Who's colonizing them?
>They're a plague on the EU, gtfo
>>694586428
i will not. on the contrary i will fight against you. i will argue against islam and for the moral truth.
>>694586552
It wasn't a threat. Did you watch the video? Stop being so paranoïd.
>>694586402
we people ? I have never met someone in my life that said "we must destroy the west" or anything along those lines who was in any place of power or held any decent job.
>>694586534
No group "owns" a country mate, thats not how it works.
>>694573767
I'm curious if anyone of you know the meaning of that picture.
>>694586333
>>694586054
from 1980 to now terrorisim has claimed less than 20,000 lives
in ww2 alone the japanese killed over 20,000,000 civilians even if only 10% were committed by a religious fueled individual thats still 2,000,000 which is a shit tonne more than islam has done in the past 30 years
>>694586541
>If you don't want muslims in your country think twice before colinizing them.
sure, it's the fault of the western people. every problem a muslim ever had was somehow the fault of the western people. muslims love to act like victims. the quran itself even already prescripes hostility of muslims against jews and christians. it's a way to fight the west and you are a liar. it's the muslims who kill each other
>>694586747
They've destabilized themselves, just stop.
What they like to do is blame everyone else for their inability to evolve. Pathetic
>>694586800
You did it faggot. I live in Europe and I won't move, come and make me leave if you hate me so much. Defending is not haram, I'll do it.
>>694586855
>No group "owns" a country mate, thats not how it works.
yes we do. we can close our borders and you can't come in. sound pretty much like owning it to me. having force over a country is owning it.
>>694587152
Kys faggot; you're the problem.
>>694587156
Thats the majority of the country, not one small group.
>>694587028
yes, the japanes fought in ww2. ever heard of the buddhists being an ally of germany? it was the japanese. nationality is not religion. muslims on the other hand fight for islam. that makes muslims violent and not egypts or arabs.
>>694587333
exactly. the majority owns it. the majority are christians.
>>694587031
I don't act like a victim, it's a fact. What is yhe biggest minority in France? Algeria, and you know why? Because France colonized a very big part of Africa and now they go there. Same thing for indians and pakis in UK.
>>694587444
But not all christians are the same, not all of them want to block muslims out.
> buddhism
> religion
pick one
>>694587482
bad thing. is algeria still a colony of france? france really apologized for that and still does, even if people of today don't have to. i don't see one muslim apologizing for conquering spain or for ISIS or al-quaida or subjugating women and killing apostates.
>>694587090
No the shitty american government destabilized every middle east country for their interest and for oil. If there are such problems today in the middle east, it's because the Sykes-Picot treaty that was signed after WW1.
>>694587656
yes we do. when muslims go to far, you will see what happens in the western countries.
Why would you hate Buddhism?..we may be in an age where Buddhism may actually die out in our life time. China destroyed what was Tibet and its culture. The Dahli Llama has no successor and he can't live that much longer. The entire religion will change because of that. They have no way of finding a successor unless they just kind of bullshit it now. Without a leader of some sort a lot of the religion will probably die. If China decides to start taking over other countries they will definitely destroy what is left of Buddhism. Countries with the power to stop this kind of stuff from happening just do nothing because they don't want to ruin business relationships, but they can go to Iraq to "spread democracy". Wait for the day your country sells you out as well
>>694587826
You can easily find out that most of the west likes muslims, which is surprising to me imo, just means that western muslims dont follow islam closely, which saddens me.
>>694587732
Like you said they don't have to, and thwy don't. Do you know how many algerians died for their independence? Millions. Europe has been brutal and cruel to their colonies, and yet they just got away with it. They prefer accusing other muslim countries for the things that have been done in the past centuries, so that we don't see what Europe has done.
I'm not saying that you should apologize now. But we don't have to apologize either for small groups of idiots who claim to be in the right way, because we know they're not.
>>694587757
muslims kill each other if there is no american government or some dictator to stop. they ARE destabilizing themselves no matter what the us government does. as far as i remember, most of the iraqis were in favour of overthrowing saddam hussein. and syrians cried for the american government to help them against assad. muslims just instrumentalize the interventions of the us in their countries to hate against the west and the jews and the christians, just like it is prescribed in the quran. you cannot shit me
>>694587361
the buddhist leaders where on the side of the war and where pushing it as a religious issue. but yeah thats not buddhisim, just like the crusades are not christianity and isis is not muslim.
>>694588003
>You can easily find out that most of the west likes muslim
how?
i really don't know any not-muslim that really LIKES muslims. and i don't know any non-muslims that likes the bad teachings of the quran when read to them.
>>694588591
reggresive left sees disliking islam as racist so they love muslims
>>694588591
Let me rephrase in this case, no one would like to block muslims out of their country.
>>694573767
>trying this hard
>>694588394
Muslims didn't killed each others before the Sykes-Picot treaty. The UN imposed their laws in the middle east and they destroyed it. Look at the picture. How could it go wrong huh?
>>694588336
>Like you said they don't have to, and thwy don't
you have never consumed any western media then. we are apologizing all the time for things that we didn't even do, but people that lived years ago.
>They prefer accusing other muslim countries for the things that have been done in the past centuries
that's the opposite of the common sense here in europe. i know, because i live here. we get told in history class and every day in the media, what europe has done wrong in the past.
>I'm not saying that you should apologize now. But we don't have to apologize either for small groups of idiots who claim to be in the right way, because we know they're not.
the west is criticising itself all the time for everything, so you're wrong
>>694588499
as far as i know, buddhist were oppressed during ww2. show me the source of your information
>>694574473
cuck detected
all feminists = feminazis
>>694573767
A religion who's sole purpose is the final death of everything is really not my cup of tea.
>>694588722
they also see sexism, xenophobia, religion and killing apostates as a bad thing. the quran prescribes these things. when muslims start to do that, they will not tolerate it, nor call it racist. only stupid leftists call it racist, because it's obviously stupid, because, you know, islam is not a race.
>love muslims
>love
sure, keep telling you that
>>694588499
>>694589537
japanese buddhists against chinese buddhists to get rid of the bad buddhisim.
i sent the link ages ago its on the wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_violence
i won im going to bed. all religions are equally bad. so you should stop being so blinded with hate and your own views. stop being a hypocrite athiests these days are cancer so much worse than religious bible bashers. you cant use one argument against someone then say its not valid onto you.
if religious japanese are not bhuddist then isis is not muslim and other terrorist orgainsations are not muslims meaning islam has done no bad which is not correct.
>>694588860
talk to the so called "antideutsche". these are considered as leftists and they make the biggest group of the radical leftists now. they are pro-israel and anti-islam. read about it
>>694589924
>i won
cute
>>694573767
>Why don't we stop telling bullshit about Islam
>>694590097
>>694590008
Or I could not, It really does not bother me, Id never go to the west, but I dont like bull.
>>694590097
right?
>>694573767
ALL religions are flawed and dangerous to society. Abolish ALL religion!
>>694590075
you are not even arguing you are giving single line responses trying to make yourself feel like you are actually doing anything but the only thing you prove is that you are a retard.
>>694590217
yes
>>694589924
ok, if you go anyway, i am to lazy then to read your source. but i know for sure: no matter what i read there, the obvious truth observable by all is, that islam is worse than any other religion. muslims by far the most in number when it comes to religious violence and it is so because the quran itself prescribes it
>>694589158
Lol this won't work on me I live in Belgium. In history class, our teachers always talked like the horrible things they've done were normal and not so bad, like it was normal for that time. But it's not. They try to show that they weren't so evil.
Everyday in the media, I see things that show how dangerous the muslims can be. You know I think it's normal that you're scared or that you hate muslims. Here the medias always talk about Islam in a bad way, you're getting brainwashed.
1: buddhism isnt a religion
2: buddha isnt an idol; the statues are just a respect and reminder kinda thing
3: grow up
>>694590160
>Or I could not, It really does not bother me
thought so
>but I dont like bull.
then you have to reject the quran and stop defending islam
>>694583923
The germans did it to the jews, they will do it to you. Enjoy your gas chamber. Exert too much influence into their politics directly and see what happens.
>>694590307
you are not even arguing, you refuse to educate yourself, you just want to protect muslims, which is most likely your group
>>694590363
the scriptures of Buddhism can be worse. there are violent texts in Buddhism. more people have been killed by other religions. all religions are bad.
>>694590509
it is a religion its not theistic but its a belief with no proof that is given to you by scriptures with a holy person at the top
>>694586428
There's accepting that everyone dies in the end and then there's getting brainwashed from birth into thinking that praying to a mythical being will make dying better. All religious people are delusional and weak minded and are a hindrance on mankind.
>>694590532
Quran isnt bull, sadly, feel free to change my mind tho.
>>694584149
Tolerance is something that needs to be a two-way street.
You can't be an advocate of a creed that breeds intolerance, and then cry foul when people don't want to tolerate your intolerance.
>>694589158
i live in germany and i know the anglo-american media as well and talking like it wasn't so bad would be strongly rejected. a teacher would be fired for sure.
>Everyday in the media, I see things that show how dangerous the muslims can be. You know I think it's normal that you're scared or that you hate muslims. Here the medias always talk about Islam in a bad way, you're getting brainwashed.
so ISIS doesn't happen? or al-quaida? or 9/11 or all the other terrorist attacks? and stoning in iran and saudi-arabia. or the xenophobia, warmongering and sexism in the quran. all this doesn't happen?
>>694590660
i fucking hate muslims as much as i hate every other religion. you are sitting there going Islam is worse which is not true. all religions delude people negatively.
i can not understand how you can defend any religion. they are all stupid and they should all be banned with a death penalty to those who pass their teachings on. it shows a backwards way of thinking and gets us noware it slows us down as a civilization.
>>694590607
Nothing will happen. In 20 years there will be more muslims than non-muslims in Brussels. In 100 years most of the big cities will be in majority muslim. If you try something like that, we will defend ourself and the muslil countries will unify to crush you while you're dealing with muslims in your country.
>>694590389
i live in germany and i know the anglo-american media as well and talking like it wasn't so bad would be strongly rejected. a teacher would be fired for sure.
>Everyday in the media, I see things that show how dangerous the muslims can be. You know I think it's normal that you're scared or that you hate muslims. Here the medias always talk about Islam in a bad way, you're getting brainwashed.
so ISIS doesn't happen? or al-quaida? or 9/11 or all the other terrorist attacks? and stoning in iran and saudi-arabia. or the xenophobia, warmongering and sexism in the quran. all this doesn't happen?
>>694590532
just read the quran:
"kill the infidels"
2:191
4:89
8:12
9:5 (non-believers have to pay, not to be killed)
9:111
47:35
61:4
Quran says, it’s ok and even normal to have slaves:
4:3
4:24
5:89
23:6
33:50
58:3
70:30
Sexism in the quran:
2:282
4:34
For Muslims, it's forbidden to be friends with unbelievers (and it shows):
3:28
3:118
4:89
4:144
5:51
5:57
60:1
As a muslim you HAVE to fight against non-believers:
2:216
2:286
4:74
4:76
4:95
8:39
8:59
8:60
9:111
9:29 (non-believers have to pay, not to be killed)
9:73
9:123
48:29
66:9
>>694590674
Buddhists believe that true happiness isnt just from material gains, but you also dont gain it from getting rid of all that stuff like a monk.
Its a middle road. Like, working a job you like regardless of income.
It also has the scientific method as its core belief; that you shouldnt believe anything unless you see proof; then test that proof and again test those results too. Then have others test it. Its cuz they feel life is better when you have an understanding of how the world really works. Basically it shits on religion.
the third aspect of it is to usually be a nice guy. nothing is concrete with "THOU SHALT NOT" but rather just "try to be good"
Buddha isnt holy; hes just the guy that started it. The statues are a reminder of this stuff. Its like hanging a picture of einstein or turing in your science lab. Yea it looks weird to you cuz youre used to western religions, but its not a religion; just a philosophy.
>>694587028
That was a WAR to stop aggressors taking over the planet, religion is just a by-product of mass hysteria thought up by people thousands of years ago that didn't know any better. Most of the modern world has evolved and moved on (hence churches being full of very old people) All religion is out-dated and should be eradicated
>>694590991
i don't defend any religion. i just hate muslims defending their "religion" by saying, that the other religions are just as bad. this is just not true
>>694574473
"Femanazi" = feminist ≠ equalist
Someone who wants equality is not a feminist, they are an equalist you dumb cunt
>>694591131
the problem with muslims is in the media every day. we know, what islam is all aboiut and we know how to defend ourselves. muslims countries will never be powerful enough against nato
>>694590674
>more people have been killed by other religions
are you even accessible for rationality and empiricism?
>>694573767
Lol this shitskin is mad cause people tolerate Buddhism because they don't go around murdering women and raping kids.
>>694591155
Of course it's happening. Terrorist is a plague and we should get rid of it, I give you that point. But do you really think that executing a raper is a bad thing? Or a killer? Those are normal. Saudi Arabia has the lowest rape rate in the world. It's working.
And don't forget that this is small minority, every muslim don't go to Syria to do suicide bombing. Europe would be destroyed if it was the case.
>>694573767
Fuck you, sandnigger. Islam is vile, cruel and disgusting. Guess you're just salty that not even Buddhists like you.
>>694575164
Lots of feminists are also for men's rights. But then they realize they were tricked by the "feminism is for equality" and move on to egalitarianism or, like me, stop identifying with such a broad movement and only support individuals from then on.
>>694573767
>Why don't we stop telling bullshit about Islam
so telling the truth about Islam is now "bullshit"? kek
>and have a proper buddhism hate thread?
No. go allahu ackbar yourself, you degenerate goat felcher. Fuck Muhammad (pork be upon him)
>>694590674
>there are violent texts in Buddhism.
Fetch at least one sutra from Kagnyur that calls for violence.
Niceb8m8ir8/8
>>694591335
the agressors being the japanese which are mainly a mix of shinto and buddhism who were told by the religious leaders to fight.
>>694591308
buddha isnt the guy who started it he was one of many budda which were wealthy intellectuals who claimed to be "enlightened"
there is no scientific method in Asian Buddhism, is has no basis with science its a religion that believes in the sprit and karma.
>>694591365
>not a Muslim, anyway killing only matters if your religious so why do you care, they are people you have no attachment to. and that seems to be your main problem with islam.
>>694591632
paganism Christianity Egyptian religion Judaism greek pantheon have all killed lots of people. and as i said before ww2.
>>694592070
again i said before anyone who is a figure can write anything and i gave an example from some monks before.
>>694591522
I don't think every single country would join the nato army to defend Europe. Who cares about Europe except the europeans and americans. It would be a good occasion for Russia and China to get rid of you. If the citizens attack the muslims, a civil war would come. Europe can't deal with a civil war AND attacks coming from outside. And if you don't have our oil, you're cucked.
>>694591741
>But do you really think that executing a raper is a bad thing?
they execute you for adultery, blasphemy and "witchcraft". stop twisting facts to protect your violent religion
>Saudi Arabia has the lowest rape rate in the world. It's working.
it has the lowest rape rate because no one dares to report it. if they aren't lucky, women will get stoned too, even if they are the victims
>And don't forget that this is small minority, every muslim don't go to Syria to do suicide bombing. Europe would be destroyed if it was the case.
but most of the terrorist attacks are performed by muslims and fighting to spread islam is prescribed in the quran. thatswhy it has to be rejected
>>694590674
>but its a belief with no proof that is given to you by scriptures with a holy person at the top
Ok, now this is completely wrong. Buddha explicitly said that believing something and relying on authorities is wrong. Buddhists are encouraged to use their common sense in practice.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalama_Sutta
>>694591396
I think the word you're searching for is egalitarian.
>>694590909
Do you feel superior for being an atheist? Lol you guys absolutely think that we are wrong but if you do please just let us be in our ignorance and don't come to our countries
>>694592206
>paganism Christianity Egyptian religion Judaism greek pantheon have all killed lots of people. and as i said before ww2.
look at the number of victims killed in the name of these religions and compare them to muslims killing people in the name of their religion
>>694592287
fighting to spread christianity is in the bible.
thats why it should be rejected.
>>694590991
>i can not understand how you can defend any religion. they are all stupid and they should all be banned with a death penalty to those who pass their teachings on. it shows a backwards way of thinking and gets us noware it slows us down as a civilization.
Hold on there.
USSR tried to pull this trick, and it didn't lead it anywhere. What's worse, destruction of buddhist monastic communities led to rise of alcoholism, birth deformations and violent crime in Buryatiya, Tuva and Kalmykiya - something they still can't handle properly.
>>694573767
Meh, Buddhism has a live and let live philosophy, unlike Islam, which is why Islam gets far more hate.
Buddhism's still bullshit, but it's inoffensive bullshit.
>>694592315
Moar people know the term equalist over egalitarian so I used the more known term
>>694592206
>killing only matters if your religious
what?
>they are people you have no attachment to.
how do you know. they live in my country as well.
>and that seems to be your main problem with islam.
the missing attachement of islam to me is my problem with islam? no, the xenophobia, sexism and warmongering is my problem with islam
>>694592556
>fighting to spread christianity is in the bible.
thats why it should be rejected.
what does that even mean?
if you want to say, that it is prescribed for christians to spread christianity by sword, you are wrong.
>>694577407
uh Buddhists have been (violently) protesting against Muslims in Burma pretty much since Islam spread there
I for one think Buddhist violence shows how shitty of an ideology Islam is, like how bad do you have to be to cause Buddhists to riot?
>>694592531
i said the number before 20,000 in the past 30 years is not that many compared to history.
>>694592583
survival of the fittest, the human race will be stronger when people wake up to themselves. im sick of the way we are going holding on the weak long enough for them to have children
>>694592723
thoes three things are a part of all religions wake up
>>694592206
>the agressors being the japanese which are mainly a mix of shinto and buddhism who were told by the religious leaders to fight.
Remind me, who was head of state Shinto in imperial Japan?
>again i said before anyone who is a figure can write anything and i gave an example from some monks before.
So, you don't see difference between canon texts and scriptures written by some monks? Cute.
>>694573767
Because the vast majority of islam is fucking awful, the vast majority of terrorist attacks are Islamic in nature, and the entire religion is a throw back to a time that is completely shit, and the adherents of the disgusting ideology want to revert modern society to that same complete shit.
Fuck you, fuck your shit fucking religion, and fuck the fuck off, you disgusting fucking cunt of a muslim.
>>694592883
>i said the number before 20,000 in the past 30 years is not that many compared to history.
that's wrong. i can't really think of any case (maybe except for two pruny crusades or inquisition) when christians killed in the name of their religion. and they can't even appoint at their holy book to do so, because it's not in there, in contrary to the quran.
>>694592287
Thzy chosed the sharia law and it's their fucking right. They have their own country and their own rules. If you don't o ey to the laws of a country, you will be ounished. These people want to preserve their culture and want to keep their woman pure, not influenced by the west. Let them do. Witchcraft is also part of their culture but is strictly forbidden, it's normal that they want to get rid of this plague.
If you know your religion you know that this is false. Jihad means "struggle", against your own soul, to reject the sins that you could make. I'm not a perfect muslim because I browse 4chan but when I try to stay away from this, it's jihad. The armed jihad is less important, and the current "jihad" is strictly forbidden. Jihad has rules that terrorists don't accept.
>>694592883
>thoes three things are a part of all religions wake up
they are not part of christianity for example
>>694593324
>Thzy chosed the sharia law and it's their fucking right
and i argue against it, because it is wrong. so?
>keep their woman pure
pure in what way? does sex or western media make women dirty? and how?
>it's normal that they want to get rid of this plague.
by killing them. i am against it, it's barbaric. islam and the quran is barbaric. mohammed was barbaric. muslims of today are barbaric. what are you trying to say?
>If you know your religion you know that this is false. Jihad means "struggle", against your own soul, to reject the sins that you could make
no, jihad literally means: "spreading islam by force". and when you read the quran, you will recognize it
>>694573767
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXbEXTfW2x8
>>694573767
Fuck off mudslime. Your pathetic attempt at diverting absolutely deserved hate from Islam to probably the most inoffensive religion in the world will not be successful. But who needs to convince anyone when you can just blow them up right?
>>694592222
Because China and Russia want the destabilization of world trade?
>>694585843
How many people have you beheaded, and how many buses full of children have you bombed? How many virgins is Allah going to give you when you die?
>>694594272
0
0
I dont know
>>694592883
>survival of the fittest, the human race will be stronger when people wake up to themselves. im sick of the way we are going holding on the weak long enough for them to have children
Look, genocide apologist accuses somebody else for violence.
>>694594272
Those are actually from the moon religion, not the Quaran. You get no virginz Not a mudslime.
>>694593826
Don't talk about things you don't know. I think that I am better in arab than you are, and jihad doesn't mean that.
You can be against it, there is no problem with that. But if you fight and insult us, we will fight back. I don't want to fight you but if you force me to do so I will not hesitate.
Let us alone and let us do our things the way we want to, you can not be against our own will, this is not your right. And if we are wrong, we will pay it in after-life.
>>694583818
ww2 japs weren't buddhists you fucking abydocomistic idiocrat
>>694594792
Don't talk about things you don't know. I think that I am better in arab than you are, and jihad doesn't mean that.
the context in which it is used in the quran makes it very clear
>You can be against it, there is no problem with that. But if you fight and insult us, we will fight back. I don't want to fight you but if you force me to do so I will not hesitate.
i will fight you, if you want to spread your "religion" or gain power for your ideology in any way.
>Let us alone and let us do our things the way we want to, you can not be against our own will, this is not your right.
then keep it in your shitty countries and stop spreading your hateful ideology. but more and more muslims want to come to western countries and if anyone of you demands tolerance of your hateful ideology, i will fight him
>>694594255
NATO is being more and more aggressive with Russia and China. Did you saw what they done in eastern Europe to precent from Russia? The United States (the government) is the enemy of Russia and China. They will not hesitate to crush you too if they had the occasion.
>>694594792
Commander Worf, I challenge you to bat'leth combat.
>>694594792
>jihad doesn't mean that.
It means "holy war," and any assertion to the contrary is a fucking lie.
You could go look it up in the Hans Wehr dictionary, or you could just fucking listen to how Arabs use the word.
>>694595369
You see that's your problem. You are absolutely certain that you're telling the truth and not us. This is getting annoying, you will not be agree on a single thing that I say. Whatever I say, I'm wrong znd rou're right. And you want to talk about tolerance? Respect? Jihad is a duty for the muslims, but not THAT Jihad.
I'm not planning on invading you. I am perfectly integrated, I go to university and do my prayers at home or in the mosque the friday. I didn't complain during Ramadan of seeing people drinking and eating.
>>694594985
Oh, ok. Zen and Bushido have nothing at all to do with Buddhism. Because you say so.
A thousand years of history, whoosh. Gone. Because you say so.
>>694574352
It's because many Islamist disturbed by the violence and terrorism are actually converting to Buddhism in mass. There's lots of info on it online.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_converts_to_Buddhism
>>694596390
WW2 japs were Shinto dumbass. And yes that has nothing to do with Buddhism.
>>694573767
lol buddhisms not even a religion you tard. The mist you could say is it's a loose philosophical framework. Hence Christian Buddhists, Jewish Buddhists, etc.
>>694573767
>Why don't we stop telling bullshit about Islam
You mean about how it's a death-cult started by a pedophilic warlord who needed a way to keep his barbaric troops loyal and focused when raiding and pillaging innocent people, and that it's now evolved into the worlds largest cancerous ideology in direct opposition to peace, love, culture, science and general advancement of the human race?
Or about how even Muslims who consider themselves moderates are in favour of death for apostasy (leaving Islam), are highly against homosexuality and deliberately avoid assimilating into the societies of any non-Islamic country they turn up in?
Islam is a filth that corrupts otherwise normal and good human beings and turns them into zealots who actively work against every good thing the western world has achieved over the centuries, and the mass denial of this as well as denial of connections between its heinous inhumane teachings and the never-ending stream of barbarism coming from the Islamic world that absolutely and unequivocally dwarfs violence and murder that occurs for any other reason only serves to harm those who consider themselves moderate and turn more people against them.
Moderate Muslims who refuse to speak out against violence caused by Muslims and default to the piss-poor no true Scotsman fallacy and claiming that any Muslim that commits a heinous act wasn't a Muslim at all is childish and stupid, and when they get all buttsore and offended that people think all Muslims are like this, they only have themselves to blame.
Themselves and their lazy, selfish expectations that everyone should do all the work to deal with this huge cultural issue but them.
>>694596322
Your personal characteristics and behavior are irrelevant. Islam teaches hostility to and conquest of the infidels, and tens of millions take that seriously. Islam is a danger to all non Muslims. Watch the news.
Your stance is analogous to the idea that Nazism was good and wholesome because some individual Nazis were good and wholesome, and didn't take that "slaughter the lesser races" stuff seriously. Even though millions of others did, and waged aggressive warfare justified by that doctrine in a way that ravaged the planet.
That's asinine.
You belong to a barbaric and violent religion. That you yourself are not violent or barbaric does not change what it teaches and requires. And it makes me wonder why the fuck you're in it.
Oh, wait. Because Islam requires the murder of people who leave it, and you probably don't want to die.
Because it's barbaric.
>>694596322
doing harm to people is wrong. i think you can agree. that being said, you have to reject the quran. it's not a matter of having another opinion.
>And you want to talk about tolerance?
yes, quran does not provide that. and muslims don't. quran virtually defines xenophobia. intolerance can not be tolerated, just as murder can not be tolerated. "tolerance" as a western keyword does not mean, tolerate everything, but tolerate lifestyles that don't harm anybody
> I didn't complain during Ramadan of seeing people drinking and eating.
oh, how nice, thank you!
>>694573767
We are entering the era where 12 graduate students in a lab can formulate a chimera virus capable of wiping out an entire race of people and anyone with enough shared genetics.
I'm not too worried about arabs.
It's only a matter of time.
>>694597016
hear, hear
>>694597019
I get your point. But Islam taught me to behave well. Look at the others immigrants in Belgium or in Germany, they all reject their host country and make nationalism, they are litteral monkeys. I was like them at first. Then I started to pray, I learned that in Islam, you can't rebel against your host country because it's like violating a pact made with this country. While my parents came here, they signed a pact to respect the rules and the tradition of this country. And that's what I'm doing, I respect this pact because Islam taught me to do so, not because I want it.
I know that a lot of people think like ISIS, but not he majority, don't blame the whole religion.
>>694597635
The "whole religion" is exactly to blame for spawning more fucked up people like that, due to its teachings.
>>694596832
But it is a religion
>>694597635
>not the majority
just 20%-30% is enough.
>>694597635
>>694597200
Our prophet said that whoever from his community harm a christian or a jew, he will reject him on the day of kıyamet (the final judgement). You see, this is my religion who forbids me to harm you, not me. I could do it if I want to but I won't disobey him. When Jesus will come back to earth, the christians and the muslims will fight together against Israel. But for now we can't harm them.
I just want to live in peace amongs you, can't you understand that?
>>694596832
It's syncretic religion.
>>694573767
The only true religion is: 4chan!
>>694598180
i am christian and i won't fight against israel, dude.
>Our prophet said that whoever from his community harm a christian or a jew, he will reject him on the day of kıyamet (the final judgement).
show me the verses, i can'T remember reading this
>>694597635
I'm fine with people believing whatever shit they want, as long as it doesn't lead to barbaric actions or undermine (even ATTEMPTING to undermine) western values that objectively advance the human race.
People like you need to be the ones not committing spastic normalfag-tier no true scotsman fallacies and doing their darndest to pretend that extremist Muslims actions were based on fabrications in their own mind, but instead pointing out the teachings that caused this barbaric behaviour and distancing yourself from them, condemning them as exactly what they are; relics of the past. Just like the majority of Christianity has done.
If you want Islam to survive (and why shouldn't it alongside the other two abrahamic faiths?). Then you need to be the sensible one advocating a new, evolved and superior form of Islam that actually stands a chance of blending with the cultured western world.
Islam is NOT the religion of peace, and it never ever was. But you can make it that. Nothing is stopping you.
Condemn the shit rather than deny it exists.
Nobody ever survived cancer by denying they had cancer.
Nobody.
>>694598345
That's not how you spell Jedi.
>>694597635
>don't blame the whole religion.
Everything ISIS does has doctrinal support. In many cases, inarguably so. They are not inventing heresies. They are applying Islamic law as it has existed for centuries. They take it very seriously.
To simply declare "that isn't real Islam" is 1) lazy and 2) a lie.
"Moderate" Muslims exist by picking and choosing which parts of their religion to take seriously. I had this precise conversation with an Iranian on Monday. They're not "moderate Muslims" so much as "bad Muslims" because they jettison those aspects they find inconvenient. Given that Iran is a theocracy, he had some strong opinions about this.
The religion teaches that Muslims are to conquer, enslave, and subjugate non Muslims. Period. No amount of hemming and hawwing changes that. The Quran and Hadith say what they say.
You just want us all to avert our eyes and pretend otherwise... while your more serious coreligionists continue to murder us, and we aren't allowed to say why.
I decline.
>>694598180
Your prophet was an idiot no smarter than the average 6th century desert savage. And half of whats attributed to him is plagiarized, and half of what's left is well understood to be apocryphal. And it's only reason you're dumb enough to still consider it a high mark to strive for.
You are fucked as a people.
>>694598180
Hadith of the Gharqad Tree, faggot. Read it.
>>694573767
Hostilities aren’t stilled
through hostility,
regardless.
Hostilities are stilled
through non-hostility:
this, an unending truth. :)
Dhammapada vers 5, Siddhartha Gautama
Have a nice day and kuddos for your awesome bait m8.
>>694599108
that one contradicts quran then
>>694598431
« Celui qui fait du mal à un Juif ou à un Chrétien trouvera en moi son adversaire au Jour du Jugement. »
Not the Quran, authentic hadith from the prophet. Hadith is the sunna, the way of the prophet, and is completing the religion. I found it in French, you can translate it. You see, we can't just invade you and rape your women.
>>694599181
So Muslims oppressed Jews for more than a thousand years in direct contravention of the Quran they believe in? Murdered them when it struck their fancy, even though the Quran says otherwise?
Citation. Needed.
>>694599108
>Hadith of the Gharqad Tree
oh sorry dude, misunderstanding
>>694599390
>>694599437
misunderstanding, i thought he wanted to show, that a hadith says, it's wrong to kill jews. quran says, you should oppose jews (and christians) of course
>>694599501
Honest apology on /b? I'm shocked.
>>694598705
This.
These lazy fucking moderates want to have their cake and eat it too.
They're like the buffet-attending cherry-picking christians, only no christians are murdering gay people, subjugating women and bombing/shooting up public places.
They want to walk around the buffet table going "oh i'll have a little of this and a little of that, but none of that other stuff", but going one step further and denying the stuff they don't like is even fucking there and that extremists somehow 'magically' formed these barbaric world views all by themselves.
They didn't. Moderates are the ones late to the party. Moderates are the ones that are practising Islam wrong according to the ACTUAL FUCKING TEACHINGS OF ISLAM.
And if they want their precious faith to survive then they have to be the ones to change it. Not just sit back like lazy worthless cunts and deny all the horrific shit in the books that ABSOLUTELY UNDENIABLY EXISTS.
>>694599990
i do that
>>694598705
If you say so. I see that you are convinced in your opinions so you won't change your mind and I won't either. Debating on religion is a complete waste of time. Practice your religion, and let me practice mine in peace. Everything should be okay like that.
>>694575410
This.
>>694600329
>Practice your religion, and let me practice mine in peace.
No. Fuck you. Stop being a lazy fucking moderate and stand up against the parts of Islam that are wrong rather than denying their existence and enabling extremists by doing so.
>>694600186
I don't consider myself as a moderate muslim, there is no such thing as moderate Islam. Islam and the Quran is perfect, we can't change it. It's your interpretation of the Quran who will determinate your religion.
>>694600516
There is no "wrong parts of Islam"
>>694600406
fuck off, nobody believes in your antisemitic conspiracy theories except muslims
>>694600516
And you are the one being extremist here
>>694600729
Fine, be pedantic.
Barbaric parts.
Anti-western parts.
Sexist parts.
Homophobic parts.
Parts that encourage extremist behaviour.
And don't fucking deny those exist.
>>694600551
the quran leaves no room for interpretation on the vast majority of passages. it clearly states to subjugate women, to kill apostates and to spread the quran by sword. nice try
>>694600516
Why change something rotten, if you can just quit and start a new happy life? It's not like leaving islam is death sentence, and not even complete retards believe in hell or heaven.
>>694600551
>>694600729
Regardless of how perfect it may or may not be, there are certainly many, many people out there that are interpreting it wrong, unless you're okay with the shit that's going on in the name of Islam, in which case you're proving the point that it's not a peaceful religion.
>>694600879
Oh i am?
Shit, did i black out and bomb a public place or shoot a load of people?
Wow, and here i thought i was talking shit on a fucking image board.
>>694600995
but he's lying. read the quran you guys
>>694591251
>>694575705
That is correct. The Buddha is not an idol.
>>694600931
Barbaric? Show me.
Anti-western? Don't know about his one too.
Sexism is a western term and is too vaste. Islam doesn't promote equality, it promotes justice.
Of course there is homophobic parts. In christianity too, it's an abomination. I tolerate them, but I am against this.
Extremist behaviour? Like what?
>>694600879
>Lalalala i can't hear you
>What problems? there are no problems.
>I know you are but what am i then?
>I know you are but what am i then?
I was stupid to expect a lazy common moderate such as yourself to be an adult and take ownership of demonstrable problems in something that is a huge part of your life.
You're a pathetic child and you argue like a pathetic child.
>>694574352
>trying to bash buddhists
Running out of people to hate.
Gotta hate on whatever religion, club, institution the brown people go to, also.
>>694600995
I agree with you, a lot of people doesn't interprete the Quran the right way. ISIS, Al-Quaida and all the others terrorists are the Khawarijs. The prophet said they were the dogs of hell.
>>694601438
>Barbaric? Show me.
>>694591251
>Anti-western? Don't know about his one too.
no, only anti-jewish and anti-christian. but the west is christian and jewish you know?
>Sexism is a western term and is too vaste. Islam doesn't promote equality, it promotes justice.
it's not justice if you can beat your wife or that women testimony is not as much as worth as a mens
>In christianity too, it's an abomination.
christians won't kill your for that
>Extremist behaviour?
living on the moon the last 15 years?
>>694601709
so mohammed was already talking about ISIS of 2016?
>I agree with you, a lot of people doesn't interprete the Quran the right way
actually, they are pretty accurate in acting like the quran says, see here:
>>694591251
>>694586747
>Sometimes
kek
>>694601438
>Sexism is a western term and is too vaste. Islam doesn't promote equality, it promotes justice.
4:34
Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other
sounds pretty unjust to me
>>694601782
Allah is merciful with is servants until the day of kıyamet. In hell, the ones who didn't believe in God and didn't obey would be very roughly punished. Not on earth.
Are you dumb? We can't beat our wife. My dad help my mother at home, he even cooks for her sometimes. And he never, NEVER beated her, or even yelled on her.
Christians don't obey the Bible then.
There are some extremist behaviours, but this is not the Quran that told us to have extremist behaviours.
>>694576941
>it can get kinda euphoric sometimes
You're doing it wrong.
But seriously, the teaching is to regard euphoric states as everything else: nothing special. Come back to the breath.
>>694601438
Your islamic "justice" is filth. scum.
Absolute wank of the highest order seen on this earth.
Whilst the western world probes space, conducts scientific experimentation and produces amazing technology, the Islamic world lies in ruins, consuming itself endlessly like the ouroboros, feverishly intent on taking everyone else to a manmade hell with it.
I'm more than happy to accept people practising any faith they're willing to take ownership of. The good and the bad.
In fact i wouldn't just be okay with it. I'd respect that person.
But you... Look at you.
Disgusting.
You mewling, lazy, dishonest slug of a human being.
>>694601919
What do you think? People like ISIS already existed at the time of the prophet. These were the ones who rebelled against the governor and kill innocents. Islam forbid us to rebel against a government, the Jihad in Syria is forbidden.
>>694592877
Buddhist killings in Myanmar and the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka blacken the name of Buddhism. Just a further example of how humans can co-opt any idea - no matter how altruistic - and turn it against its teachings.
>>694602482
You really need to get rid of all that hate anon
>>694601709
If you really loved your faith, you'd preach to other muslims the benefits of peace, rather than sitting on your laurels expecting all this to just go away.
It won't go away because the problem is Islam itself. Every single thing these extremist groups do is backed by words in Islam.
Do your faith a favour and advocate a new Islam that cuts these parts out entirely.
>>694602348
>Are you dumb? We can't beat our wife.
Wive[b]s[/b]. Sharia allows having multiple wives. You can't even make up a proper lie.
>>694602348
>Are you dumb? We can't beat our wife. My dad help my mother at home, he even cooks for her sometimes
oh, how nice! what a nice ideology! so you say, it IS actually the womens duty to cook and work at home? that's not justice, dude.
>We can't beat our wife.
quran 4:34:
"But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], STRIKE THEM"
>Christians don't obey the Bible then.
there is no verse in the gospels that say, you should beat your wife or subjugate women. the opposite is the case. jesus clearly was what we today call a feminist.
>There are some extremist behaviours, but this is not the Quran that told us to have extremist behaviours.
no, it IS in the quran, yoo don't know the book of your own religion
>>694603039
I already do that. When I see a muslim that is in the wrong way, I advice him.
>>694603117
And?
>>694587869
>Dahli Llama
>>694602880
Hate exists for a reason.
My hatred for weak, lazy and intellectually dishonest people is justified.
People who want to be weekend-muslims with all the self-congratulatory holier than thou bullshit but deny all the rest of the teachings and the people who practice it and harm others as a direct result of doing so.
We could all be friends in this, fighting against barbaric behavior and its causes, but the laziness of moderates and unwillingness to even try to help change things for the better just makes me think it's not worth it.
Maybe you're right, maybe Islam and the west can't work together at all.
Because I'm done, and anyone with a shred of love for the human race should be done defending this indefensible shit and pretending Islam is this perfect harmless religion that never ever spawns bad things, bad ideas or leads to violence murder or subjugation.
>>694603207
Yes, this is justice. I can understand that your society in 2016 isn't build on these values, but ours still are. The man work and bring the money at home, and the woman cook for him because he's tired. But mens can cook too, if their wives are too tired.
Yes, we can "strike them" if they don't obey us, but that is someting that you would do last, if you already tried everything else to keep her calm. And we don't punch them in the face, just slowly hit them on the arm or someting.
>>694589924
you do know that Shinto spiritualism is the primary religion in Japan. zen Buddhism was adopted much later by the samurai warrior caste, and that Christianity arrived there in the 1600's.
are you just retarded?
>>694603207
>jesus clearly was what we today call a feminist
Perhaps, but the rest of the bible is replete with references to women's supposed inferiority and/or status as property. There's very little good to be found in the bible for women or other people in slavery.
http://www.nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/darkbible7.htm
One of Sam Harris' observations about the cognitive dissonance of the faithful is that when confronted with direct references to their beloved book, they fall back to the position that the bible was written for a different time and isn't relevant to our modern society; to which Sam Harris says, "It's faint praise indeed when the best that can be said about your holy book is that most of it can now be safely ignored."
>>694603280
Explain what you consider to be 'in the wrong way'.
>>694575797
I agree. Buddhism is "the dude" of religions
>>694604249
>Yes, this is justice. I can understand that your society in 2016 isn't build on these values, but ours still are. The man work and bring the money at home, and the woman cook for him because he's tired
why is that a good thing? why is that justice? seems unfair to me, that is what is called sexism
>Yes, we can "strike them" if they don't obey us, but that is someting that you would do last, if you already tried everything else to keep her calm. And we don't punch them in the face, just slowly hit them on the arm or someting.
that is horrible. you just said:
>Are you dumb? We can't beat our wife. My dad help my mother at home, he even cooks for her sometimes
and now you're wrong about that, right?
>>694604337
Well, if he's planning to go to Syria, I know that he's in the wrong way lol. In this case if I see that he's really serious and that I can't do anything to change his mind, I would report hil to the police. If a muslim start to hate on every governments, the west and the muslim countries, he is clearly in the wrong way
>>694604164
>justified
Here's where you lost me.
Hate, like love, sadness et cetera, is just an emotion and has no existence of itself. We would do well to acknowledge our initial emotional reactions and then delve into the reasons why they arise. Emotional reactions are always the result of clinging to some desired state of affairs. To act on emotional impulses - and not recognize them for the temporary phenomena that they are - is to further reinforce those emotions.
You gotta start letting go of hate.
>>694604332
the book of the christians are the gospels. jesus allowed eating pork too. and he stopped people from stoning a woman. and there are other verses i'm to lazy to look up, where it shows, he sees them as equal to men.
also, the bible is not the word of god for christians, but a book written by humans, it is just a book that should help people find a way to god. for muslims on the other hand, the quran is the exact word of god.
>>694604652
No man for us it's normal, and I will find myself a woman who is okay with that before marrying. I need to know that she would agree on that to avoid any form of conflict between us.
And yeah I was wrong, but I've already saw this verse, it's the last solution.
>>694604932
you can be angry for good reasons you know? when i see saudi-arabian stoning, i am pretty angry and i am right about it. emotions come from peoples opinions. muslims for example have shitty opinions and therefore have non-justified hate.
>>694605321
Who are you to judge muslims opinions? I don't judge yours so stop being islamophobic
>>694605309
so you are looking for a woman that knows before, that when in one situation, she opposes you, she is not right about it? that would mean, she couldn't oppose you in the first place.
that's illogical
>>694605454
>Who are you to judge muslims opinions? I don't judge yours so stop being islamophobic
i am islamophobic. islam is what i argue against. i oppose the opinions of muslims. that's what this whole discussion is about. you ask, who i am to judge? i think for myself and i don't follow blindly a book which prescribes bad things. thinking for yourself is rational. blindly accept opinions from a man hundreds of years ago is less rational. it's actually irrational
>>694605547
Of course not you don't get it, I was talking about the cooking and everything else. I can gelp her when she needs to, like if she's pregnant or what. And if she opposes me, we will discuss about it, like normal human-beings
>>694605017
>the bible is not the word of god for christians, but a book written by humans, it is just a book that should help people find a way to god
tell that to the legions of bible literalists who are currently trying to legislate their insanity or who are voting for said insanity
