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Who is actually in favor of this piece of shit. If she was an object shed be a half smoked cigarette smoked from the wrong end. How is she ahead in polls
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bitch bought out her campaign
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>>693201498
More corrupt than this piece of shit??
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>>693201498
Does this mean Snowden is innocent?
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>>693202201

google that quote. you'll be surprised to know it's not real.

guess you're a gullible faggot huh?
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>>693201498
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>>693202733
guess he was pretty careless and all...
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>>693202984
weel smif
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>>693201498
Don't worry about the polls now, dems won't show up to vote.
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She's going to bury this county... U boys like mexicoh
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>not /pol
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>>693202961
there;s a video of it mate
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>>693202984
doesnt work like that faggot
immunity cant be negated but nice try
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>>693202961
Trumpler supporters are gullible by definition, falling for a fraudulent con man.

Idiots.
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>>693203517

well you're gonna either have to find it or hold this dick, mate.
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>>693203346
Trumpler will never be president.

Bet on it.

Not enough racists here.
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>>693203614
It's not about gullibility. At this point it's about not electing her. We can survive 4 years of a guy who doesn't know what he's doing. We will never make it through 1-2 years of someone like her that knows exactly what she's doing.
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>>693201498
people are stupid
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>>693203794
Okay, I bet you one million dollars.
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>>693203614

I don't support Trump, I just hate when people use fake quotes on the internet. Trump has said enough ignorant shit...no need to make up new stuff.
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>>693203794
God. I hope you're right. I'm not so sure anymore. The amount of support he has is really fucking depressing.
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>>693203861
>We will never make it through 1-2 years of someone like her that knows exactly what she's doing.

Having competent leaders will destroy the country.

>wut.
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>>693201498

>How is she ahead in polls

1: The Democrat establishment controls most of the media.

2: She's running against a man who can't keep his foot out of his mouth.

3: Idiots can vote.
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Im fucking done with America. How the fuck can someone vote for this fuckin garbage. I must be in a twilight zone? These simple minded people are going to kill us all.

How they havent killed Trump baffles me... He is our fuckin savoir you FUCKS!

https://youtu.be/OCabT_O0YSM
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>>693202984
Lmao you clever fucker.. Even negates invincibility kitten.
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>>693204195
Wooooooooosh
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>>693201498
SHE GUN BE THA FRST WOMIN PREZDENT :ddddddd
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>>693204290
>The Democrat establishment controls most of the media.

You're an idiot.
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>>693204117
cry faggot
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>>693203517
>>693203754
Here's that video. He doesn't say that. He actually makes me wanna vote for him even more.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_55b691b9e4b0074ba5a5a7a0

Sorry for shitty link. First Google result and I watched the whole thing so I can't be fucked to find a YouTube version. Dicks.
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>>693204781
You first bitch
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>>693203614
Read it and weep
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>>693203861

that's the dumbest thing I've read this week

Hillary won't knowingly run our country into the ground.. If you think she will then you're a paranoid gullible mind.

Trump could very easily run us into the ground by banning all Muslims and giving guns to people in night clubs
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>>693204195
I think what my /b/rother is trying to say is that Hillary knows exactly how to use the government for her personal gain not for the people
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>>693204919
If that's what you think either one of them are trying to do then you need to start paying attention
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>>693204781
I will, if he wins. Cock gobbler.
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>>693203861
Living the dream, huh?

You have it backwards.

HC is a classic Realpolitik cold war politico.
She a status quo type.

Trump is a huckster, who will say anything to improve his position.
He does not give a fuck about conservatives.
He cares only about himself.

Trust nothing trump says.
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She only deleted a few emails wats the big deal. trump is much worse he will destroy the country and maybe kill innocent people who are muslim, mexican and black
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>>693204880
that's not very ladylike for a Hillary supporter. do do have a fat smelly twat I'm assuming?
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>>693203861
Spot on
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>>693204811
That's the best Donald Trump advertisement I have seen.

I don't know how Hillary is ahead. She was part of the rigged system that has pretty much at this point defeated Sanders. BUT more importantly, she really doesn't stand for anything; Hillary just wants to be president.
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>>693205063
Thank you. Tho I'm not really saying for "her" personal gain per se. But I do know she wants to destroy what this country was founded on and turn us into EU 2.0
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>>693204739

So you don't think that political parties control the American mainstream media?

You think MSNBC and the Huffington Post are giving you objective truth and its only Fox News that's biased?

I'd say you're the idiot friend.

The Repubs control Fox News, the Wall Street Journal and a handful of other newspapers and magazines. The Dems control pretty much everything else and your head has to be firmly up your ass if you can't see it.
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>>693205168
30,000 is more than a few
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>>693204068
Trump is a farce as a potential world leader.

If trumpler lies, and the other side lies, then what are we really voting for?
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>>693204811
Fucking love trump. A pity there is so much misinformation about him circulating and almost everyone believes in it.
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>>693205149
>He cares only about himself.

Don't all humans?
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>>693202984
Anon with the outplay! BTW, invincibility kitten cannot be revoked.
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nobody killed more muslims than Obama, see: drone program
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>>693205170
>implying I'm voting for shillary
I was for bernie but he's btfo
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>>693205149
I don't. But I'd rather spend 4 years watching congress stop him from being an idiot than watch 1-2 years of her gaming the system to get us to vote away our rights out of fear and turn us into slightly less shitty Europe.
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>>693201498
clinton over trump. if ur truly a liberal, clinton will at least not destroy the liberal legacy that obama put in place for the past 7 yrs (obamacare, dodd frank, alt energy investment, ledbetter act, minimum wage increase, etc.).

not to mention the ideological rebalancing of the supreme court is at stake. we need a more liberal court
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>>693205624
Berniefags got BTFO for the last time today
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I can't wait for her to win and run this fucking country into the ground.
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>>693204918
I support Senator Sanders, you twat.

Clinton and trumpler are both corrupt.
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>>693205725
I know
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>>693205394
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>>693205406
Not him but 30000 is a drop in the bucket. Plus it doesn't take into account the 200,000 defensive uses that end with practically no shots fired.
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>>693204919
Your daily reminder that Trump doesn't want to ban all muslims. Please orally disimbibe the Clintoncock. I detest trump, but will be voting for him just to piss off retards like you.
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>>693205770

Sanders is already out and he's supporting the corrupt cunt who cheated him with superdelegates.
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>>693205692
It is becoming increasingly embarrassing to call ones self a liberal these days because liberals are becoming associated with politically correct social justice sorts who blame terrorist attacks on guns and christianity instead of islam.
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I'm still writing in Bernie.
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>>693205956
um, facebook says that trump wants to ban all muslims. he must be really awful.
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>>693205966
Feeling the Johnson ensures a Hillary victory spiderbro
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ITS THE CURRENT YEAR
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>>693206062
is there a difference?

honest question
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Everyone here:

Delete your accounts.
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>polls
>mattering before the first debate

kek, babbys first election?
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>>693206329
Difference between what?
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They're both criminals
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>>693205770
You deserve a medal. Supporting someone who can't explain what is happening in that socialist paradise Venezuela.
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>>693205471

Misinformation? Please clarify.

Did he not suggest a "ban on Muslims"?

Does he not support a costly and totally innefective wall on the border?

The only ones being misinformed are you morons.. Quit watching Alex Jones and go outside
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>>693206344
Dubs of truth. FIRE UP THE PAPER SHREDDERS!!!
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>>693206413
>memes are 100% truth.
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>>693206294
That's bullshit. Not every Muslim thinks like that. Just like not all Christians believe that disobedient children should be stoned to death.
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>>693206062
im pretty apolitical wen it comes down to social policy questions. if u havent noticed, the executive doesnt do shit with social policy (except appoint with the advice and consent of the senate supreme court justices).

the real changes in social policy have occurred in the judicial branch -- look at abortion rights, gay marriage, desegregation, affirmative action, etc.)

so i cud give less of a dam about social questions. lets talk about economics
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>>693202984
holy fuck
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>>693205123

it's his direct suggestions moron you're really going to pretend he didn't suggest these things?

you pay attention
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>>693202201
Lol you realize thats just a meme
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>>693206642
Yeah, but some probably do believe that, and that guy could be in that group.
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>>693202201
Idiots like you think opinions and statements (that aren't even real retard...) are as bad as actions.
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>>693201498
And still better than the other guy...
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>>693206503
Ban on muslims entering the country until we can figure out what is going on. The core of terrorism is in the islamic faith.

Ineffective wall? Are walls really that ineffective? Did you even bother to research its effectiveness or are you relying on what everyone else is saying?
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>>693205956

He backed out of it when he realized it wasn't gonna go over...

You can't take that kind of crap back...

So here's a daily reminder, you're an ignorant turd :)
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>>693203614
>not a cornflake

No but you're a snowflake.
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>>693204919

Ignoring the pure stupidity of this, how would banning muslims and giving guns to people in night clubs run us into the ground? The very worst is we wouldn't have muslims and some people in night clubs would die.
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>>693206642
Most muslims do. Even the peaceful moderate muslims think that being gay is sinful, but they won't do anything about it. They silently support the crazy ones who do end up fucking shit up.
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>>693206413
>both have committed "crimes" in the private sector
>one has committed crimes that put the american people at risk and then directly lied to them
>and then lied again under oath

not making it a hard decision
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trump is a foolish man, granted clinton isnt much better...but trump lives in a richmans fantasy land, whereas clinton may live in the political game her chances of accomplishing various changes for the better are far more likely than trump just barking orders.
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>>693205624
>I was for bernie
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>>693206267

Too early to say really.

I'm pulling for Johnson to get in the Presidential debates and then see what happens. Current polls show he's been pulling voters from both Republicans and Democrats so saying that he'll throw the election one way or the other is inaccurate.

Come November if things are close between Trump and Hillary and Johnson stands no chance then I'll vote Trump (I live in NC which is a swing state). But if Trump is already fucked or Johnson actually has a shot, then I'll vote Libertarian if only to send a message to the Republican establishment that I'm sick of the big government Neocon bullshit they've been pushing the past 16 years.

I do fucking hate that duplicitous cunt though. I'm not sure I can stand 4 years of her in charge.
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>>693204117
Back to your safe zone
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>>693206885
israel has a pretty damn good wall ,as does the vatican , and white house. (fence)
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>>693206062

Ya that's what you hear on InfoWars isn't it?

Wake up kid.
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>>693205770
Someone throw this commie out of a helicopter
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lot of talk about trumps proposed ban on Muslims. Let's hash it out and see that there is in fact a way to do it that is constitutional. Restrict travel to and from countries that harbor terrorism(if you think we couldn't possibly know which ones then you need to see yourself out now and please don't vote. You're not smart enough). Then we find the guys that have dual citizenship and all the various visas from these places and we put them on a watchlist and start the vetting process(we want to do it for the refugees, why not honest tax paying foreigners that are visiting?). As of this point we haven't violated the constitutional rights of anyone and we've probably caught a few terrorists and convinced a few countries that maybe if they wanna play ball with the US then all this aloha snackbarring needs to stop.
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>>693206851
You must be relying on biased information from facebook and reddit to come to that conclusion huh?
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>>693201498

Deluded people for the most part. To be fair Trump is kind of a bit too forward. If he sugarcoated things even a little, he would will by a landslide.
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>>693207129
she wont do shit to help americans, shes also elite, see: speech money and donors
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>>693204919
>run our country into the ground by banning all Muslims and giving guns to people in night clubs

lel Are you retarded?

The first will help, the second is bullshit
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>>693206642
Then they're not real Muslims if they don't
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>>693206667

the executive doesnt do shit with social policy huh? you havent got a clue
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>>693205168
>trump is much worse he will destroy the country and maybe kill innocent people who are muslim, mexican and black

And what makes you think that? Your feelings?
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>>693206373

Holy fuck, is that bitch a shark? Looks like she has multiple rows of teeth.
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Going by economic strategy alone Trump is far fucking better and actually wants to make American manufacturing competitive again on the global market and not get buttfucked by the Chinese and Mexicans. Hillary wants TPP garbage that will worsen trade imbalances, especially if China joins which they're deciding on now, and her tax rate will drive businesses out of America as Christie, Ford and Boeing are doing right now with tons more to follow after that cheap Hue worker who'll do the same job for 1/20th the cost and no union shit.

Also I haven't posted on /b/ in over 2 years and this'll probably be the last or one of the last, you faggots talk like retards and use words like lmao and ellipses unironically. Fuck moot and Hiroyuki for killing /b/ and turning it into a normalfag and Poointheloo infested den of shit. Fucking kill yourselves.
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>>693202733
Intent. Snowden had provable intent, Clinton didn't. That's all it is. She claimed ignorance from day 1 and it worked.
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>>693207453
ha prove me wrong
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>>693205168
Emails pertaining to classified information. Which mishandling such files is considered treason if anyone but her does it.
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>>693202984
kek
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>>693207129
>Trump lives in a rich mans fantasy

I take it you don't know much about clintons life? or how little of benefit she ever got done in government

>well, other then shit to benefit herself

Elite deviance, look it up.

Basically the clintons in a nutshell, they live in a literal fantasy land where you can do whatever you want and only give a shit about yourself
>with no consequences
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>>693207177

Its true son, neo-liberals have turned against free expression in the name of attacking people who don't conform to their PC agenda. They've been using mob tactics, blacklisting, corporate pressure on state governments.....its like fucking McCarthyism with trannies.

The days of liberals having any sort of principles worth respecting seem to be in the past.
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>>693206642
Sure. I think you need to educate yourself friend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSPvnFDDQHk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8tFH5yIvsQ

Even some muslims think that there is something wrong with the core of the islamic faith.

Christianity isn't that bad anymore nowadays because they were forced to have to change their ways to fit into modern society. Now with islam we are just trying not to offend the muslims while the filth continues to spread.
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>>693206851
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>>693207807

This is the best one.
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>>693201498
I'm a liberal and I hate that bitch. I'm voting for Trump just so that snake won't get into office.
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>>693207807
what aboot canada
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>>693206885

ever heard of ladders? ropes?

maybe dig under the wall like they do already?

Get a clue you sheep it would be totally inneffective..
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>>693207177
WAKE UP

NOTHIN PERSONELL KID
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>>693201498
She's ahead in the polls because Trump is the Republican frontrunner.

Litteraly any other candidate and Hillary would loose

I bet Trump was a tactic by the Democrats to give them an easy election.
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>>693207555
>ignorance of the law negates it

uhh no that would effect punishment

If i intentionally run someone over with my car its murder

If i unintentionally kill someone with my car its manslaughter

still a crime
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>>693202984
topkek
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>>693201498

Because despite all her problems she's preferable to Hitler.

I'm not voting for either of them, but fun to my head choice of only two? I'd pick her in spite of her complete lack of judgement.
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>>693207129
>whereas clinton may live in the political game her chances of accomplishing various changes for the better

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

People actually think Clinton's political experience makes her a good candidate. Truly ebin memes
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>>693206851
Anyone who can claim that knows nothing about Hilllary Clinton. Imagine turning $1000 into $100,000 by reading the Wall Street Journal. Odds have been estimated in the time she did it at a few trillion to one.
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>>693208086

But she is a woman and it is current year, therefore she isn't responsible for her actions.
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>>693206642

Christianity is dying out, Islamism is growing, anon. And not a kind, reformed variety.

IMO there's nothing to be worried about. Most muslims live near the equator and that is going to slowly become uninhabitable in the coming decades.
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>>693206642
That's not the point. You don't see SJW types criticizing islam when the muzzies act on those beliefs. Why aren't feminists supporting the charities helping muslim women in Islamic shit holes and instead giving their money to horse faced con artists?
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>>693208073

yo sick comeback tho by just repeating what I said
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>>693208086
No, it doesn't work that way with this.
As a hypothetical, let's say you had been logging into a restricted access database at your job. Your boss is okay with it and gave you his log in, but it's against company policy. Some time after you've found another job and moved on, they find out. What can they do to you?
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>>693208006
increased difficulty exists my angry friend.
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>>693208006
Ever heard of cameras? motion sensors? the fact that we already have 21,000 border patrol employed currently who are told to stand down on the reg?

is your idea that we should just do nothing?
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>>693207507
Sure you want to leave? You seem to fit right in here.
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>>693207129

>whereas clinton may live in the political game her chances of accomplishing various changes for the better are far more likely than trump just barking

Do you know what political offices George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, etc, occupied before the revolutionary war? Do you think they managed changes for the better?
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>>693208150
>trum is literally hitler lol

fuck off back to tumblr.
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>>693207129
Her pay to play scheme pays her $250k for a 20 minute speech. Same with Bubba.
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>>693201498
Repeating false accusations makes it not true.

Trump, on the other hand.....................scumbag in bed with the mob.
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>>693208150

bait.tiff
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>>693208701

NO U!
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>>693208366 (you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)
yo sick comeback by responding to my sick comeback you insecure piece of shit
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>>693208505

The realization that you haven't come to is this will cost way more than we'll ever gain. Trump has ABSOLUTELY no idea how much this will cost and neither do you.

Cameras and motion sensors with patrols along the entire Mexico-US border?

Lol and Republicans complain about the deficit..

That's it for me. Nighty night scum of /b/
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>>693207812
You said it. Although there are very few idiots paid as well as Chomsky
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>>693208467

Change restricted database at your job to top secret, classified info in a government role and then maybe you will be more accurate.
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>>693208006
Not if built and stationed properly. Right now we have a fence with border patrol being run ragged like every 50 miles. If we built an actual wall and patrolled it properly it would be more affective. Think Guantanamo bay wall around the base. Maybe not as tall. But staffed and protected. You're not gonna use ropes and ladders when armed military with M4s are drawing down on you telling you to stop or die. As for tunnels? There are ways to deal with tunnels. I'm thinking thermal and follow them to the exit and blow the exit. Feel free to make improvements or tell me why it wouldn't work. Idgaf. But we at least need to do something because all this nothing we've been doing costs millions a week in untaxed revenue.
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>>693208467
Uhh except that is still how it works for the law she broke

It didn't require intent, just "gross negligence" under 18 USC section 793

know the law if you're going to comment on it
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>>693201498
"Most Corrupt Person"
I don't know, man. W. Bush ran twice, and he was corrupt as Hell. So was Jeb! and that's just in recent memory.
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>>693206413
the 4 bankruptcies is a myth, they were 4 business bankruptcies. He kill 4 businesses which tbh he would have been stupid not to kill. And if he outsources jobs to china and mexico then that's literally proving his point that mexico and china are taking all the jobs you fuvking retard
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>>693208866

LOL so you responded to mine that makes you 3 times as insecure?

Way 2 logic cuck
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>>693209269
fucking* Sorry I've been drinking
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>>693209087
>im losing better run away

very convincing

would be moreso if we didn't spend 100billion a year on illegal immigration total, and if we could ever reduce it by 10% we would save more money then the entire cost
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>>693204195
obama is competent but we're worse off under him then we were with bush, fucking bush. The most retarded president to ever exist. Obama is somehow doing WORSE than that guy
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>>693208482
They're all about making it harder to buy guns but can't be fucked to make it harder for Jose to jump the fence
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>>693201498
She's ahead because she promises free stuff, is a woman, and kills people who get in her way.
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>>693209430
The economy is much better now then under Bush.
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>>693205349
I doubt she even gives a shit about that

Her and bill have always been about personal power and wealth, whatever they can do for themselves they will
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>>693207799
so like the kennedys?...that actually sounds promising.
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>>693209189
That law is entirely concerned with national defense. That wasn't the issue, as there is no evidence that information concerning national defense was deciminated. You read that, right?
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>>693209394

LOL 100 billion we spend? you're delusional kid

seriously you live on a different planet I can't do this anymore . It's so frustrating to talk to people who lie and repeat lies like you Republicans do...
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>>693207507
By newfag
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>>693208701
Roy Cohn's assistant was Bobby Kennedy
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>>693201498
>vagina
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>>693206774

Attached to the back window of 03 ford minivan driven by a chain-smoking lard-ass driving her brood of 7 cum stain pieces of shit down to the welfare office.
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>>693206926
Please cite your sources. Pretty sure he never said anything like "my presidency will ban Islam and all muslims from the usa." Pretty sure he said something more like "unchecked migration of Islamic refugees is dangerous, we should stop taking in Muslim immigrants until we can properly vet them". But go ahead, cite your sources.
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>>693209712
In what way? Median income down, inflation high, gas higher than when he took office, lowest workforce participation rate in 50 years, 50+ million on food stamps and/or in poverty, black unemployment through the roof, $20 trillion in debt.
Doesnt sound too good to me. Bet your kool aid tastes wonderful.
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>>693210009
And she''ll still vote for Hillary because Hillary promises more free stuff
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>>693209430

>implying a president has any real control over an economy
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>>693207265

Except every major terrorist attack that occurred last year were perpetrated by citizens of that very country, including the San Bernandino and Orlando attacks. So your first point is massively stupidly wrong.
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>>693207092
>Trump is a fraud and Clinton is a...greedy bitch? One is illegal and immoral the other is...cunty.
>Clinton and Powell and Rice all used private email for state department business. Rice and Powell didn't run for president so no one looked deeper into it.
>Cite your source since you're full of shit.

Obviously you're a stupid person, no wonder you like Trump.
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>>693209903
Except the hacker pleading guilty to hacking her servers and reading classified information...
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>>693209903
Umm both the emails about Libya and Benghazi concerned national defense.

what are you reading?
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>>693209712
You have the republican congress to thank for the low gas prices that you base your "the ecomony is doing great guise!" statements on
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>>693208006

"We can't stop 100% so let's not even try at all"

You sound like a giant pussy to me.
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>>693209712
? no its not
>the stock market tripled
he gave banks trillions of dollars in free money and they put most of that into the stock market. Stock market booms. Or you think it can go from an all time low to tripling in 6 years naturally? Atop that economic grown is slow as fuck. And median income for middle class workers went down.
>he added more jobs
Yea if you factor in the jobs that were lost he didn't add that much. Plus most of the jobs added were temp jobs and low paying jobs

If the only way you can say your presidency is a success is if you compare it to a crash comparable to the great depression, then your presidency was shit and balls
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>>693207812
god so much idiocy up in here

>>693207827
christian terrorism is alive and well. how many doctors have to die?
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>>693210388
Their servers weren't in a home and didnt contain classified info that was stolen.
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>>693205570
no. but i can understand why you, being neurotypical af, msy have trouble believing how anybody else could think differently from you.
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>>693210327
he most certainly does. In what way does he not?
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>>693204811
Damn good video.

It gave me wood...
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>>693210683

In what way does he? He can't introduce legislation, only congress can. He can talk till he is blue in the face, he has no real affect on the economy and it all comes down to what congress enacts.
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>>693210140
https://youtu.be/-sz0KY-3PbQ

:45 seconds
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>>693209906
you're right-

its 113 billion
>This report estimates the annual costs of illegal immigration at the federal, state and local level to be about $113 billion

http://www.fairus.org/publications/the-fiscal-burden-of-illegal-immigration-on-united-states-taxpayers

stay btfo idiot
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A FUCKING SHILL
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>>693210389
He doesn't have proof though. Trust me, I wish, but there's no proof.
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>>693209712
Jeez..Can't you get the narrative right? Even though Obama is the first president in history without an average 3% growth in GDP, you're supposed to say but at least health care is cheaper.
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>>693209907
>Cancer calling people newfags
Slit your wrists before you go to bed tonight cunt.
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>>693211108
>cept for when it actually isn't.
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>>693210358
Orlando attack was by a US citizen
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>>693211259
>who was raised by a known radical muslim immigrant

is the end of that statement
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>>693210812
when the crash happened he should have imeidately pushed for cutting spending. Instead he had the stimulus and dropped shit tons of money on solyndra for fucking plant fuel and it failed. And much more.
And its not like he's retarded if the bill is clearly bad veto is don't sign it into law he literally just approved bills that shit on our budget then made a million speeches about how great things are. He's most definitely at fault cause this is what he wanted to happen
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>>693211259
That's what he was getting at. Imma go address it.
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>>693211108
what is the 2008 financial crash?
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>>693207812
>McCarthyism with trannies

I giggled
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>>693211183
>Sandy vagina newfag
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>>693207153
>I'll vote for the guy who wants more countries to have nuclear weapons, wants to torture more people, wants to order the military to murder civilians and commit war crimes, wants spend $7-$35 billion on a wall (<1/3 of illegal immigration involves boarder jumping, most are overstaying their visas), has defrauded his own employees, has set up entire companies to defraud Americans, lies about his net worth, won't release his taxes since he's a lying sack of shit, all because I hate that cunt...for no reason other than I was told to by the Republican party which I also now dislike.
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>>693211596
the one caused by bill clintons financial deregulation, allowing bank consolidation and trading of mortgages, and directly lead to the housing bubble and bank crash?
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>>693210358
Orlando wouldn't have been stopped by any legislation on any level. But San Bernardino could've. They were both dual citizens. If what I said had been in place they would've been under a microscope as they obviously should've been. My point stands. But there's fruit loops everywhere and to assume you're gonna get them all is retarded. But by your logic we shouldn't even try right?
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>>693208083

Hillary>Trump>>>>>>>>>>>clown car republican candidates>Hillary

Lolwut
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>>693210593

Brah, if you think the size, scope and scale of Christfag terrorism is anywhere NEAR the monumental, colossal level of goatfuck/pedo Terrorism..

Dear fucking lord, you are stupid.

I mean, completely brainwashed.
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>>693202984
lol
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>>693211545

Again, he can push for all sorts of things, but he can't do any of it, it is all up to congress. If you ever feel like actually watching how it works, watch CSPAN debates for a bit. If he vetoes a budget that is agreed upon by most of congress, he pretty much makes himself look like a moron and it can be bypassed anyway. On top o that, if he vetoes a budget after they sat and fucked around with it for months and months till the last second, he risks being the "cause" of a government shutdown. Welcome to the game.

The reality is the people who buy congressman have much more power and influence over the economy than a president.
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>>693201498
I keep seeing this claim that she is the most corrupt person to ever run for president but have never once seen any statistics or proof of any kind. It seems like yet another sound bite with no meaning what so ever like "make america great again'. Well that sounds good but how are you going to do it? What exactly is wrong and how do you propose to fix it? Yet again, silence. No answers. No proposals. No plans. No ideas. Just make it great.
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>>693210814
>video from December

>not addressing the rest of the video

>restricting Muslims from entering the country to enforce security is a bad thing
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>>693211910
>talking about the clintons and war crimes

lol you mean the people who bombed the ME without congressional approval and did the saudis dirty work in return for cash?

yeah, they sound great
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>>693201498
She'd **
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>>693208701
So, was Kennedy. So, what's you're point?

Is that Billy Joel?
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>>693211431

Are you suggesting she be put in a lit pire to test if she's the mother of the dragon breath?
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At the very least she should be banned from any kind of political position for negligence.
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>>693202984
Gtthyyhu
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>>693211913
dont forget repeal of glass seagall which combines consumer and investment banking. which put people in immediate poverty after the crash.
At some point in time incompetence just seems a little too fake of an excuse
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>>693212186
Last guy that was under FBI investigation and found not guilty of any wrong doing shot up a gay bar in florida
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>>693206373
>who bitch this is?
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>>693212191
Look, I can't help you take your head out of the sand. Yeah the video is from december. And he's waffles back and forth on it ever since.
Same with "bring back torture."
Same with "kill the families of known terrorists."

At what point do things candidates have said fade away into the past and become moot? Will anything happening now matter in Nov?
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>>693209143

> Compares the walls of a military base/prison to the entire southern border of a country

Ya, Im sure that would be completely affordable and serve a great purpose.

> Not realizing most illegals got here legally and just overstayed their approved trips
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>>693207812

> McCarthyism with trannies

OMG, this is the best description ever of the SJW media. To be fair though, John Edgar Hoover was in that McCarthyism shit and a tranny so nothing new there really.
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>>693201498
trump propaganda machine at work
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>>693202984
I love jaden Smith
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>>693201498
Because that's how bad people don't want that shit ham trump to win. They would rather vote for her shitty ass than his racist, moronic, sexist, idiotic ass.
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>>693201498
Also, if you can't understand why she's ahead in the polls you're literally retarded. I get you disagree with her, but can you seriously look at trump and say he's not just as fucked up? If you can't, you're delusional.
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>>693212369
If Justice existed in America it would have happened over 20 years ago
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>>693202984
welp
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>>693212839

>racist

In what way? If you say muslim or mexican, neither are a race, you can be white mexican, white muslim and so on. That word is starting to lose meaning cause retards misuse it.
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>>693211910
Name a US president who has NOT presided over war crimes being committed by US forces.
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>>693212737
Deal with that too but none of that negates the fact that there's a problem that's hemorrhaging untaxed revenue into other countries and not getting spent here. It's a fucking problem. There are 11 million workers sending millions of dollars elsewhere. That deserves fixing. And giving them amnesty isn't gonna fix that. It'll just let them do it legally.
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>>693212839
>racist, moronic, sexist, idiotic ass.

Just got back from Facebook it seems
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>>693212140
and whether those bills pass is up to him. And if its an obviously bad bill and he passes it then goes on every tv show and makes every speech about how great the bill is then yes he is also at fault for the problems that rise out of it. And a presidents power is with the people. The one's who buy the congressmen have power but the one's who vote them in have more power. Had obama grown a dick and actually said "hey the republicans are trying to pass a shit bill, here's the bill here's what it'll do i'll leave it here for you to read, if you oppose it call up your congressman, here's the day of the vote come protest visit your congressman before then if you have to" etc etc. The point is get the people involved.
What he did was "gimme your vote and fuck off" and when shit went under he went out and said "everything is great its all good brah"
No he's gotta be retarded
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>>693202984
Fuck off
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>>693213265

Facebook? Damn son, you need new friends. More like tumblr.
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>>693212227
what is the ME?
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>>693201498
ITT: Liberals explaining why they are going to vote for a criminal dedicated to advancing the anti-freedom agenda put forth by Bush and Obama, but not understanding the word "hypocrite" when confronted with any criticism.
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>>693213266

Actually they can still bypass it with a majority vote, which they will get if a budget bill gets vetoed as it will otherwise lock the government, which they like to threaten as a game, but wouldn't let happen as it is political suicide.

You clearly don't pay attention to the games that are played and how they are played, the president has very little power over legislation, basically none.
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>>693213603
This
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>>693213496
Middle east
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>>693211913
what led to the crash happened over several presidencies.

also

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm–Leach–Bliley_Act
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>>693201498
Hell yeah I'm voting for her.

Hillary "The sand-nigger grave-digger" will put more shitskins in the ground than the last 10 presidents combined.

>2016
>Not voting for Death (TM)
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>>693204918
Of course they care. You think most democrats are happy about Hillary. It is called voting for the best of a bad situation. Trumps economic plan (and i use the word loosely) has been mathematically shown that it would put our country over $10trillion further into debt. Yet you are the same morons who bitch about the debt Obama raised. Hypocritical... very much so.

He has already proven that he will completely destroy any foreign policy we have considering half of our longest allies have already stated that they do not want him in their country and will refuse visits from him.

He has had numerous quotes that parallel Hitler's rise to power including scapegoating a race of people in order to dupe people into voting for him out of fear.

He has proven what a piss poor businessman he is with his hundreds of failed ventures. He has proven he is willing to put his name on any piece of crap if the money is right yet you think he isnt corrupt.

The funniest part about all of this is how you actually believe that he doesnt like Hillary. He has donated multiple times to her and Bill's campaigns. Has given his endorsements to her and Bill's campaigns in the past. Id say odds are equally as good that this whole campaign was a way to line his pockets while ensuring that Hillary wins, which she easily will come November based on the numbers.
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>>693213603
then people can just oust the politicians and put in those who won't fuck it up. Once again a presidents power is with his people. If congress is trying to place political games the people won't stand for it and there will be consequences.
The retarded thing to do is not use the power of the people and just take the blame for shit that sometimes isn't even your fault. He's a fucking moron
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>>693205956
and retards like you are the reason Brexit happened.

Can you just do the world a favor and die instead. And that has nothing to do with who you are voting for.
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>>693213750

Agree with this anon. Collapse really started when Nixon dropped the gold standard. Not because of the gold standard being a magical thing, but because it stopped the US government from being fiscally responsible.
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>>693213995

In the meantime, how does that give the president any power over the economy? I just gave you a clear example of how they can just bypass what he does. The budgets that get to his desk were already argued on and agreed upon by the majority of congress.
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>>693214144

The trollce is strong with this one.
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>>693213750
>links to exactly what i was talking about

Clintons financial deregulation coupled with his renegotiations with boeing locheed (tripling deployment costs right before desert fox and later iraq war) were the most direct culprits

I mean we could go back to HW bushes tax increases slowing the economy down, but thats negligible, and if we want to go much earlier than that we really need to take it back all the way to LBJs gross overspending during the vietnam conflict and Carters fuck ups trying to fix the misery index which led to everything that followed
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>>693214329

This guy gets it
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>>693201498

>How is she ahead in polls

Because she is wimmin.
Wimmin stronk!
WIMMIN PREZ TIME NOW!!!!
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Of course I'll vote for her, you fucking morons. The alternative is Trump. I'd vote for a diseased moose carcass before that egomaniacal halfwit.
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>>693202201
>libtards are dumb enough to believe that Trump said Republicans are dumb
wew lad this country is fucked
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>>693214216
dude those are budgets he supports not because of politics the motherfucker wanted those bills past. If he didn't he wouldnt support and lie about it
Thats why i keep saying the man is either corrupt or retarded
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>>693208467
>No, it doesn't work that way with this.
>she is above the law and can do no wrong

Fixed that for you.
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>>693214172
the gold standard is retarded in regards to modern global economies.

>>693214329
if you actually read about it you would see how foolish you look.
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>>693203614
I think the very fact that your "point" has no basis in fact and is just insulting shows you have no strong position. It's easy to call people names. Hillary is garbage.
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>>693213910
>trumps economic plan

President has little to do with that.

>refuse to work with countries

Fuckem. America first or no deal

>hitleresque quotes about races of people

Neither terrorists or illegal immigrants are a race

>hundreds of failed ventures

4 out of 200+

>Hillary's scapegoat

Maybe. But I guarantee if he wins he won't turn it down.

I don't necessarily like trump at this point. But as I said before. If you believe in the constitution and believe in America there isn't much of a choice here. Johnson would be great but he's a slam dunk for Hillary. This country and the values on which it was founded can survive the dude that has no idea what he's doing(not that I'm saying he doesn't, they just like to talk about experience when it's the career politicians who are the problem), but we will never see a great America again after even 1 year of the bitch that knows exactly what the fuck she's doing.
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>>693214878
>I know more about the law than anyone that does it for a living.
>Alternatively, they're all corrupt and nobody can be trusted.

Why live, anon? Just end it tonight.
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americans are so retarded. you realize that none of the presidents have free reign, right? usa is an oligarchy, so voting in a candidate won't change much but a bit of pressure in a certain direction.

you all treat it as if one candidate will change the nation into a dictatorship 1984 style, and the other is the second coming of jesus who for some reason only will save the world if you vote him/her into office.

you're all insane. any rational person won't treat everything as a dichotomy between two extremes.
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>>693213910
There's a difference with endorsing someone business-wise and supporting them by voting. Supporting the Clinton's was a smart business decision, and that's fine as a business man. But as a politician you should be focused on the people first and Trump does.


If only the trump from 1988 were running, I'm sure he'd win. But the current trump has said some over the top things and the media has continuously made him seem like the bad guy over and over. Only one of the candidates was being investigated by the FBI for abusing their power but they make Trump look like the bad guy cause he said some un PC things. Pathetic.
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>>693214870

He doesn't support them, he has no choice in the matter, congress writes the bills, argues and changes them until they get to an agreement, then vote and put them on his desk to stamp it. If he denies it, they run it so close to the wire, he would be responsible for shutting down the government and they would just get the 2/3rd vote needed to bypass his veto, making him look like the moron that shut down the government after congress agreed on it. His veto power is useless in that scenario and still give him no real power over what is in the bill, congress makes all those decisions.
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>>693214945
>if you actually read about it you would see how foolish you look.

nice counter argument

and yeah, my thesis paper was on paul vockler, so.....
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>>693210327

What is the supreme court?

If hillary wins we will have a left wing agenda pushing court that will shit all over the constitution.

The only valid reason to vote for trump is he has some solid picks for new justice(s).

Trump will fuck us over for 4 years
Hillary will fuck us over for 50.
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>>693214945

> the gold standard is retarded in regards to modern global economies.

Worked fine until LBJ overspent and Nixon couldn't pay in gold so he dropped parity and gave them paper.

Paper has been working by degrading society more and more.
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>>693202984
dood my immunity cat
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>>693214878
ITT: Liberals explaining why they are going to vote for a criminal dedicated to advancing the anti-freedom agenda put forth by Bush and Obama, but not understanding the word "hypocrite" when confronted with any criticism.
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>>693206329
>>693206407


I think this is a good explanation for why politics is shaped this way.
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I don't think anyone is in favor. She's just another cookie-cutter politician who's only interest is herself. But you know what? I'd rather a crooked politician become president than Trump. I would legitimately be scarred of the damage Trump would do as president. The dude doesn't know the first thing about being president, while Hilary's literally lived in the damn whitehouse before. It bothers me that Trump acts like a 5 year-old and whines when he doesn't get his way. Seriously if the dude would have some humility and not try to back pedal through the trough of shit he's created I would probably vote for the guy.
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>>693215247
ahem..i'll make it easy for you. conservatives overwhelmingly wanted that bill passed and given how things work in washington clinton signed in order to get something he wanted passed.
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>>693215291
This. This is what I've been saying this whole thread. Thanks for this anon. These words are exactly what I was looking for
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>>693215243
Just because congress pushes for something thats bad and you know is bad doesn't mean you should support it, and if you do youre either corrupt or retarded. Period.
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>>693215291

So, what major supreme court cases have affected the economy and in what specific ways?
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>>693215690
Yep, that's about where I'm at, aside from the fact that I would never trust Trump. I lived through the '80s.
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>>693201498
ITT: a bunch of idiot sheep who actually believe that their vote counts. It's all programmed, faggots. They already know who will win, they've known for decades.
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>>693215461
This is enough reason not to vote for her. I wonder how many of those yazidi women look strikingly similar to fighting age males.
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>>693204290
Christ, California is such a fucking cuckhole. Can we give it to Mexico in exchange for them not sending over any more illegals?
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>>693202984
well memed friendo
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>>693215403
btw, spoiler there isnt enough gold on this planet to represent the modern global ecomomy.
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>>693215151

>>I know more about the law than anyone that does it for a living.

But annon. That is exactly what i do for a living.
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>>693215941

Soooo, once again, how does that mean he has any affect on the economy? They will just bypass him anyway, so other than a stupid empty gesture, what exactly does it accomplish? You live in a child's idealist fantasy.
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>>693215814
he supported the bill from the beginning so, no.

you're wrong.

his administration had been sponsoring the 2 years before it passed

heres his statement

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=56922
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