It would be a never ending cycle of each character losing/dying then coming back stronger than before to win as per most of their stories.
Superman gets his power from the sun. Even if superman goes inside the sun to get more energy, his power-limit would be the max power for the sun. He can't get any more power than what the sun could provide. Goku on the other hand has a power level far greater than the sun. there are too many examples of when this is true, especially now in his blue form.
I think that except for the ability survive in space, Krillen is about the equivalent of super man in the Dragon Ball Universe. Remember that Goku can destroy multiple planets with a fraction of his power, if I remember correctly his battle with Beerus in Dragon Ball Super came close to destroying a large portion of the galaxy.
And to use teleportation Goku just needs to sense the persons power level, if a kai had a piece of kryptonite, and Goku was able to sense his power, Goku could teleport there.
That's out of character for Goku. He wants a fair fight and more specifically he wants to fight opponents at their best. Even if he learned about Superman's weaknesses, he would just avoid using them all because he wants to fight people at their absolute strongest. This is evident of Saiyans throughout the series, even in DragonBall Super.
That said, this is exactly why Goku would lose every time. The only way for him to win would be to abuse Superman's weaknesses (kryptonite, or removing the yellow sun) which Goku would never be willing to do. He would rather perpetually lose, train, and retry.
This will always be a retarded argument anyway, since it's more likely that the two would be friends and occasionally spar.
Nigga, kill yourself. Blue, gives him extra abilities, Like Superman Vision. The younger the sun, the more powerful he will become. If he bathed in a white sun he would become a god.
Goku has mastered basically every martial art in the universe and is capable of fighting at the speed of INSTANT due to his instant transmission technique, Superman on the other hand only has a little martial arts experience and can only move at the speed of light in a straight line, he can't fight at the speed of light. Goku outclasses him in speed by leaps and bounds and also in fighting experience and knowledge. The faggots at screwattack did basically zero research in their Death Battles and their 2nd one featuring Super Saiyan Blue Goku happened before anyone even knew what Super Saiyan Blue was capable of so that whole episode is can basically be thrown out the window when being used for proof
At some point during the Superman: Earth one storyline.
"White stars and dwarf stars, blue stars and yellow suns all give us different properties, Pulsars and Quasars give power beyond imagining, black holes consume us completely"
Superman decides that he does not like Japan due to the weeaboo plague that has spewed forth under it's greedy slanted eyes, so he throws Goku into Japan, obliterating the entirety of East Asia, and saving the earth from this bullshit yet again.
Goku teleported to Supreme Kai's planet while Gohan was training there, even though Goku had never been there. http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Sacred_World_of_the_Kai#Dragon_Ball_Z
And we don't even need to go that far. Superman sparrs with gods on a regular basis.
These DBZ fags are pure cancer.
>"Quasars give us power beyond imagining"
>Instant Transmission to quasar
Learn to read.
Plus, black holes drains kryptonians completelly. YET Superman not only survived some black holes in his life, but also held one in his hands and didn't die.
Hey Nerdfag here!
Let's think about this logically. Superman has very frequently paled in comparison to the flash when it comes to speed. The flash can runs faster than the speed of light, a speed that goku has achieved even in his first entrance of the world tournament. And is now trillions times stronger and faster than that now, he would very easily be able to dodge any hit from superman. Superman's power is not limitless, how screwattack believed that is very beyond me. Not to mention superman has no real fighting training and his skill is far below goku
>The flash can runs faster than the speed of light, a speed that goku has achieved even in his first entrance of the world tournament.
What is this bullshit I am reading?
Listen, friend: "Moving very fast" isn't the same as "moving faster than light."
Flash, also, moves and perceives in LESS than an attosecond. He's literally able to think and perceive faster than it takes light to cross from one side of a molecule to another.
Goku would spend his entire arsenal before he could lay a single hit on Flash, son.
Oh god... this retarded argument again.
Not looking at Goku for the moment because Ki's a bitch:
Superman sneezed away a galaxy -> more energy needed than the critical mass of a STAR -> Superman has more energy in himself than his critical mass.-> He'd become a black hole in an instant, killing him. If you'd come up with any bs to say he'd life: He'd still be trapped inside this thing, and if you say he could escape: The room near a black hole is so fckn bent, that if you go away from the center, you are actually going to the center again. (Aka every direction is into the hole.) Can't say for Goku, without his Ki he's weak as fuck compared to Superman etc., so he may be able to survive in a real battle, as Ki could basically be magic.
>Superman's power is not limitless
Every single source proves you're wrong.
> Not to mention superman has no real fighting training and his skill is far below goku
Superman's gotten training from Batman (who has mastered EVERY martial skill there is), has training on two Kryptonian arts, has training from Wonder Woman and has trained 1000 years with Thor in a parallel dimension.
"Nerdfag"? Watching DBZ a nerd doesn't make.
XDD well hello there Mr nerdfag.
Superman has the photonucleic effect hitting him wherever he is. The Suns that make him into a god do exactly that, and the Suns that are supposed to kill him inconvenience him slightly. So congrats, you've put a blonde Chuck Norris against a god.
DBS is retarded shit that has no place existing, blue hair ss, a color pallette fucking change is a transformation, and asspulled stongeru enemies, just because. Fuck that I prefer GT over the nonsensical fan pandering garbage that is super at least ss4 looked metal.
>Superman spars with gods on a regular basis
So does Goku and Vegeta.
>Superman's...trained 1000 years with Thor in a parallel dimension.
You know what happens when two superpowered guys get trapped together in a pocket dimension for a long time, right?
Flash can run on air and towards space (and outside time itself, as he did against Black Flash). Goku can blow Earth all he wants, still won't catch Flash.
The difference is: Superman wins.
But how do you know. Dbz doesn't have 100 years of sad weirdos who endlessy investigate tiny details of these ultimately pointless things. Gokus speed is never stated. So no one can prove anything
>He wins because I said so.
That's a nice opinion.
Broly could destroy an entire Galaxy and Goku is now eons stronger than Broly. Beerus can destroy the entire Universe, and Goku is close enough to Beerus to probably do the same. Destroying the Universe > Infinite Mass Punch or whatever it's called. Not like he would ever actually nuke the universe but at least we know he has the power to do so.
This whole thing is a little bit retarded. Comparing people from different universes is stupid because different universes have different rules, for all you know fucking bugs bunny could beat superman I
Ok let's be honest guys
Goku just instantaneous transmissions lex luthor and gets some kryptonite really quick then instantaneous transmissions back to superman with kryptonite then what?
Imo, just stop watching after the cell games, as somebody who has seen every episode past the cell games of Z, plus Gt, plus most of super, I can say none of it was really worth it. I'm done with super, you should not even start.
Cosmic Armored Superman is a hyper-reality, multi-dimensional, meta-conceptual destroyer. Designed to protect the Overvoid, the Omniverse outside the Multiverse. Fuck your universe, superman has protected the omnivores and multiverse.
GUYS STFU THIS DEBATE IS LIKE A DECADE OLD NOW SERIOUSLY! THEY WOULDNT EVER FIGHT THEYD HE BEST FUCKING FRIENDS STOP FUCKING ARGUING ABOUT THIS EAST VS WEST SHIT BECAUSE ITS GETTING OLD.
Goku wouldnt use Kryptonite. But, Superman has no other known limits. Goku can only use Blue with Kaio Ken for a short time at this point of DBS. Goku is fucked, but he's still getting stronger. But, if Goku can't beat Whis or even Beerus then there's no real debate.
Goku has been shown moving at unfathomable speeds. When fighting against Hit in Super Saipan Blue Kaioken x10 form he clearly states that he is so fast now and so far ahead of Hits Time leap technique, that Goku can now move faster than instantaneously. (Somehow)
>implying we've seen the limits to saitamas power
>implying saitama has limits
>implying saitama is even a serious character that can take part in these debates and not just a gag character that can beat anyone in 1 punch if he wants to because thats his gag
>stop arguing about east vs west
If Goku knows he's outmatched, he's not above fighting dirty or exploiting a weakness. He grabbed Raditz's tail, and bit Frieza twice.
The kryptonite thing is more of a matter of if Goku understands what it does to superman.
the winner is the companies that make merchandise for these franchises that make millions of you autistic manchildren who go out and buy all the t-shirts, action figures etc with your parents money instead of just reading the comics/watching the shows online for free like a normal non obsessed person.
Goku can only win if he either uses kryptonite or instant transmissions superman away from a yellow sun. He'd have to somehow learn these weaknesses and then go against his own nature of wanting to fight his enemy at their full potential.
My vote goes to Superman.
Remember the good old days when if your kid was retarded you could just shoot it. Now they have Internet access
the winner is no one.
because they are fictional characters and it doesnt matter.
if you really take the time to make a thorough analysis of the fictional abilities of a fictional character to compare them to another fictional character you are a fucking virgin NEET that needs to get a life and interact with non fictional people.
You faggots really don't get it, to you?
Superman is not MEANT to lose. The whole point of his character is that he DOESN'T LOSE. It's a story about how you could be literally perfect being and because you're from a foreign place, people still detest and dislike you ala Lex Luthor.
Superman is as powerful as he needs to be. That's stated in his canon, that as long as there is a threat, his canonically LIMITLESS POWER can rise and overcome the threat, without much effort.
Dude what? I'm rooting for Superman in this fight, but saying he never loses is stupid. Ever read Red Son? Lex Luthor: man of steel? How about All-star Superman? DOOMSDAY? The Dark Knight Returns ANY of his New 52 run?
Popeye could take Goku, Superman, and Saitama on all at once and make it home in time for his date with Olive Oyl
I guess any character thats capable of breaking the 4th wall is technically the strongest because theoretically they could just break the 4th wall and kill the writers or force them to write them winning
Superman and goku are fighting
All of a sudden..
Eldergod demonbane comes
if singles, goku wins no matter what.
If dubs, superman still dies.
Remember when Superman held a black hole and picked up that book of infinite pages?
>holds black hole
>picks up infinity
You're telling me that weeaboo Jesus is stronger when he's been killed like 3 times? Nice try ricer fag.
>She could Beat superman!
And is a baby
Goku > chibbi Pan > Superman
They pale in comparison to The One Above All (not the celestials, who are on par with Galactus and Odin).
He is considered the absolute above all(hence the name ), in charge of all multimeters, dimensions etc. He basically is the one who wrote all of the marvel universe, and can fix anything instantaneously to his favor.
Nigga, kill yourself. I know gooks are still squinting from the blast, but surely even they can see that they are churning out shit teir characters to appeal to a bunch of fat neckbeard weeaboos.
I hate these fucking "now I have the power of god" fags, usually it just makes them way stronger/faster etc but theyre still not omnipotent or anything so how is it the power of god
She can breath inspace, and whip superman in a fight.
> She could whip supermans ass too
The people who enjoy watching nerds argue about this stupid bullshit.
which fictional non superpowered human do you think would win in a fight?
no gadgets, magic armour, special items or any other bullshit like that, just a straight up fight between non super powered humans.
my bets on guts
I think it's very annoying too, I hate that in stories now a days because of how common it is.
>"Now you see, I hold the power of a God!"
>MC gets his ass beat
>"Blah Blah "Unstoppable!" Blah Blah"
>MC either gets some anger power, people come into help, Villain can't control power or gets drained of it, or all four.
> We loop to this
18 could whip superman too
Vegeta would destroy Superman.
lol Dragon ball Super baby is more over powered then superman!?