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If you're an American hanging out on /b/, you're most likely at laest lower middle-class. If you're not an illegal immigrant or a welfare leech, there's absolutely no reason for you to oppose a Trump presidency other than to try to sound cool and edgy.
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>>692486646
What. Huh.
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Build that wall!
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>>692486955
Well dubs is always right..
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>>692486646
Don't trump America!

>But it will never happen because he will never get initiated into office.
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>>692486955
If China and South America did, why can't we?
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>>692486646
>be me, college degree + graduate degree
>household income of around 140k
>really interested in politics and conservative thought
>read the likes of Edmund Burke, Russell Kirk, Buckley, Dalrymple, et al.
>would like to vote for a smart conservative candidate
>GOP primary voters nominated a glow-in-the-dark retard who gave 100k to the Clinton Foundation
Nothing cool or edgy about not voting for Trump. You'd have to be an imbecile to support him.
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>>692487515
Really? Explain.
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>>692488004
Explain what?
He's a babbling cunt who makes no sense.
His positions are ad hoc and incoherent.
He's unprincipled and, if you're not into Kardashian Kulture, uninteresting.
What's there to like? "Muh wall"?
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>>692486646
Hey look. It's the dumbest person in the universe
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>>692488207
Op will ditch this.
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>>692488317
I think it might be personally HIM.
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What is there to like about this incoherent babbling moron?
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>>692488207
>Implying there's a better choice

The election's over, at least he will provide some keks.
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>>692486646
Except that if you're not uberrich, you will be fucked so hard by Trump, you't take back Obama, even Bush. If you think the recovery isn't treating you right, you won' really like a depression under Trump so much.
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>>692488514
I didn't imply there's a better choice. Clinton is a platter of feces. Trump is a bucket of vomit.
Fuck anyone who votes for either.
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>>692488207
i bet you're also somebody who types the following
XD
Lol
Rofl
lmao
kk
Stop with your cuck shit.
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>>692488207
You're just throwing out insults. Explain why you believe his policies would be harmful to anyone who isn't a leech or an illegal.
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>>692488514
No money. No food. No job. No keks.
You are retarded.
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>>692486646

sorry bud. I'm upper class. Try again fag.
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>>692487515
Kek
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>>692486646
Are you a diagnosed retard?
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>>692486646
Live on my own with my own money. I guess I'm just educated.
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>>692486646
Sorry. Wrong on almost every demographic. Internal Med resident. In the CLE. Brown AF. Second gen curry nig. Trump is a f'n nutbag. I'm throwing my support and money behind Johnson.
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>>692488757
If you don't know than you're as qualified to discuss politics as my cum stained teddy bear.
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>>692488757
Policies?
He didn't know what Brexit was until two wks before vote.
He thought it was a good thing.
You obviously don't know much about it.
Hope you are too young to vote
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>>692486646
I'm an illegal immigrant.
Making my gf vote democrat
Have you read the rape allegations?
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>>692488929
Educated in what?
There's a far cry from a "Gender Studies Degree" and a "Doctorate of Internal Medicine" but neither actually educate you in the political realm.
Much like in the way a brain surgeon doesn't know how to program a rocket's guidance system and vice versa. "Educated" doesn't always mean you're educated in the topic at hand.
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I'm from scotland. Trump bulldozed conservation land, built walls around peoples house because they were "ugly", called local farmers filthy, changed property lines for a fucking gulf course. After all that everyone boycotted it. Now the gulf course already flopped. The fact that Americans seriously consider this man is a scary thought to us.

See: menie estate gulf course

Also: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/You%27ve_Been_Trumped
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>>692489038
Get your fucking greencard asshole
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>>692489919
Baited
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>>692488207
Babbling cunt? Why because you disagree with what he says? He makes perfect sense to someone who speaks English.
What positions are incoherent?
He's actually very interesting, and that has nothing to do with Kardashians or their followers intelligence levels.
His policies are there to like, and his charisma along with plenty of laughs to be had.
Use better explanations buddy
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>>692489031
Good, we need a president that focuses on this country, not others. And fuck you mean he thought brexit was good? It is good you fucking leftist cuck. Independence is always good.

>>692489038
The rape allegations that were already disregarded because the witness stories fell apart along with the main accuser coming forth and saying she lied ?
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>>692488757
>his policies
I'd love to see one.
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>>692486646
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>>692488595
Have you even looked at his tax plans? Under Trump, the median family income will be taxed less than under any other candidate, Killary, and less than under Obummer. Plus that retarded fucking Obama Care socialist bullshit will get removed and I won't have to pay a $2000 fine when I file taxes, since I'm 24 in the prime of my health and don't need insurance.
Sure he's for the rich. I'm not against them as long as he's for the middle too, which he is.
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>>692487515
This fucking guy gets it
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Vote libertarian this year! Don't piss your vote away on either of these megalomaniacs.
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>>692491014
The only thing he gets is cock up the ass from his nigger boyfriend.

>>692490873
THIS guy gets it.
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>>692489005
>His policies are shit
What policies do you disagree with?
>Hurr durr if you don't know fuck off
Great argument there big guy
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>>692486646
But I don't oppose it, OP. I, for one, welcome the coming apocalypse at the hand of our new bigoted, racist, fascist overlord. Then maybe thirty years from now our descendants can look back and say, "What a bunch of fucking idiots, fuck them, I hope they all burn for the world they us with."
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>>692492521
>bigoted, racist, fascist
Sauce, Bernie bro?
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>>692490242
Because Trump University was such a prime example of his purported 'intelligence'. Make America hate, destroy, and collapse again.
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>>692486646
there are dozens of reasons not to vote for this con artist.
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>>692492731
...It's self-evident in his speeches. Pushing for waterboarding, torture, building walls that will never work to keep immigrants out, warmongering, not to mention having gone bankrupt so many times, it's a wonder why anyone trusts him with money, let alone the entire god damned economy. He'll be bringing us back to the middle ages just like ISIS wants, so we can go down with them. The American principles set forth by the founding fathers have been eroded for a very long time now. The only good thing that has come out of this country is the abolishment of slavery, and when it took a bloody war between the retards who indulged in slavery in the first place, that's not such a bright victory.
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Republican presidents almost always cause serious recessions shortly after taking office.
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>>692492731
Clearly bigoted. Racism is a hard one, he often calls black people "the blacks", he's lost a few federal lawsuits for discrimination though. Not letting minorities rent apartments in the Trump tower, Also he had to pay a few mil for hiding black people from the public in one of his casinos. Eg. Black people weren't allowed to wait tables etc.
Also, classic fascism by blaming a countries problems on a minority or religion
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>>692486646
You're in idiot. He single handily tore apart the rupiblican party in an effort to pave the path for clinton. They are fucking friends.
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>>692486646

I'll be voting for him. Household income of $120K/yr. He ain't Mr Right, but he's Mr Right Now.
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>>692486646
>absolutely no reason for you to oppose a Trump presidency

1. Moron
2. Racist
3. Xenophobe
4. Bigot
5. Homophobe
6. Islamophobe
7. Misogynist
8. Shitty businessman, bankrupts almost everything he touches.

There's 8 reasons for starters....
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>>692486646
Imagine for a moment that WW2 never happened. Hitler never existed. The Jews were never oppressed. Everyone was detached from history's lessons as they were during Hitler's rise.

Trump is exactly the kind of faggot who would become Hitler.
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>>692495726
>Everyone was detached from history's lessons
That's actually everyone right now, again.
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>>692495587
You forgot warmonger.
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>>692496337
There are lots of things missing, but that's just the very short list. The full list would push this thread to its bump limit.
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>>692490554

I fucking love all these Londonerfags on here still freaking out about brexit. Whiny bitches, all of them. Brexit is the best thing to happen to the UK since America won its Independence.

Oh, and btw, Happy 4th of July weekend, UKfags!
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TRUMPeters playing his butthole like a rusty trombone. Swallowing every stinking load.
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>>692489038
>I'm an illegal immigrant
Prove it.
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>>692494489
This is a good thing
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>>692486646
He's charismatic and funny but besides that he's a terrible human being. As much as I hate hillary, I'm voting for her.
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>>692494545
What if he gets elected?
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>>692489038
you mean the allegations of trump raping a 13 year old? yes, it's horrible.
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>>692487515
Enlighten us anon, who do you plan to vote for now, and who do you plan to vote for when it's just Trump vs Hillary?
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Trump is the only man alive who could get Hillary elected.
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>>692497005
Up with the corrupt, incompetent, greedy, deceitful, vengeful harpie because...?

She's somehow NOT a terrible human being? She's a god damned monster.
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Hillary for president!

History will once again be made by the democrat part with the first woman president.
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>>692487515
this
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>>692497497
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-xjzMJuZF8
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Trump used to LOVE Jeffrey Epstein's underage fuck parties.
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>>692486646
I like trumps charisma and shit, it's entertaining to say the least. But his ideas about trade and economics are nonsensical. Literally the first thing in macro or international economics you learn is that tariffs and quotas are inefficient, and not capitalistic. It's a SOCIALIST idea to manipulate economic policy to pander to a group of people. Also he's liberal on healthcare, and doesn't really have a great plan for tax reform (although he wants to lower taxes for everyone which is good). But the most interesting thing about trump is that he's revealing himself as someone who's willing to go back on things he's said to gain more support. Really don't know what the USA would get with a trump president, but at least it's better then Hillary. So all in all I think I would vote for pretty much anyone outside of Hillary Clinton. Trump 2016.

ps has South Park ever been more right about an election (episode where they explain every election is choice between a turd sandwich and a douche)
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Trump likes it FRESH!
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>>692497497
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>>692497590
It doesn't matter...... Hillary is way too well-connected, and no indictment will ever be handed down.
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>>692486646
don't give a fuck about Trump.

still don't understand anybody in here who would vote for Hillary.
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Trumps problem is almost all of his policies can't be carried out legally or financially. Impossible wall, illegal Muslim policy, disastrous China policy. Trump=economic depression.
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>>692496476
her face looks so punchable
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>>692498277
dubs of truth.

obama will pardon her if anything happens anyway.
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It's all set up. It has been for ages.
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>>692496618

>racist

prove it.
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>>692498452
he's not really going to do any of those things
he's just rallying the white trash
it will be fine
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>>692498849
yeah you're as bad as those idiots who voted for brexit not believing it would happen.

trump will do bad shit if he gets elected. count on it.
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>>692498840
There have been numerous civil suits filed over racist shit in his hotels. Go Google it for yourself.
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>>692498452

Cant be carried out? Oh its happening buster bet your sweet ass
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Hillary will build on Obama's success:
http://pleasecutthecrap.com/obama-accomplishments/
Only Fox News watchers think Obama failed. People who can, and do, read know better.
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>>692498452
yes, he hasn't even given any details about any of this shit. it's all pie in the sky pandering nonsense that the simpletons eat up
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>>692499125
China's wall took thousands of years to build. Trump thinks he can do the same thing in only a few years? What a stupid dipshit.
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>>692499168
exactly. obama has been great and i'm much better off than i was 8 years ago.
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>>692499060
what's wrong with brexit?
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>>692499168
Also don't forget, he insured millions of uninsured Americans for healthcare.

History will show the Obama was one of the best presidents in the past 50 years.
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>>692499433
idiot thought it would cut immigration but since non-EU immigration over the last ten years has far outpaced EU immigration, that shit won't change. you're stupid if you think it will end immigration. the UK needs immigration. there will be less french but they'll be replaced with more muslims.
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>>692499433
They fucked up and listened to trump's Islamophobic bullshit, and voted based on his fear-mongering. Fuck, he's not even president yet, and he fucked Britain's shit up for them.
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>>692499088
>says he's a racist
>gives no supporting evidence
>tells others to look up the evidence to his arguments

top kek m8, hefty banter
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If you actually look at how trump does business with small business folks you'll get an idea of the ass raping you all are signing up for. It's going to be another Boris Johnson. Whoops I didn't think we'd win, I'm out of ideas. Enjoy the wreckage
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>>692486646
Why are people still arguing this? Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows we, as individuals, have been robbed, given a sham to cherish as the real deal. We are powerless, forced to pick between two political sock puppets who will both ruin the country in spectacular ways. It doesn't matter who you choose. In the matter of USA's continued survival and superiority, there is only the illusion of choice. Who do you want to bring us to our demise? I won't be voting for either, because to vote Trump or Hillary is to vote for our destruction.

On that ballot, I'm writing Elon Musk.
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>>692500038
You have a viable 3rd option with Gary Johnson
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>>692486646
I grew up in the upper middle to lower upper class. I'm currently in graduate school, dealing with computer science and language.

Trump terrifies me because his prominence arose from fear, his influence leads to violence, and his policy is laughable. I guess you might want to add being a student to that least of reasons to oppose Trump.

That said, I am being dramatic. I could tolerate him, I just don't want to have to.
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>the shilling for Hillary in this thread
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It really boils down to this.

Which one do you think is most qualified to be president.

A current Secretary of State, or a reality TV show host?

If you pick the 2nd, clearly you're a fucking moron.
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>>692499536
"don't forget"
It's in there numbskull
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>>692499168
>cut unemployment in half
By no longer counting the long-term unemployed still desperately seeking employment.

>nearly tripled the stock market
That statement makes no sense whatsoever.

>slashed the deficit by three quarters
In which universe?

>helped 20 million Americans afford health insurance
And penalized the millions who still can't afford it with a steep fine, as well as causing people to lose policies best suited to them.

>oversaw the expansion of marriage equality to the entire nation
Great. Fags can be miserable too. How does that help anyone make a living?

>saved the American car industry
It was totally worth saving too, wasn't it? I wonder which failed businesses we can bail out next to appease a few union scumbags.

>ended Iran's nuclear program
Delayed would be a more accurate term, and you're literally retarded if you believe they're actually going to abide by the agreement.

>got bin laden
When it was politically convenient to do so, and years after he had any relevance whatsoever among world terror organizations.
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>>692500277
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>>692500177
i'm in exactly the same boat. i;m white, have a great job and am educated. trump's horseshit won't affect me directly. i still will never support him however.
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>>692500277
>implying anyone is qualified to be the most powerful figure in the world
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>>692500508
they released their final report finding zero wrong doing. it's over faggot.

no one cared when reagan's decision directly got 300+ people killed in beirut
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>>692500597
yes, some people are actually. ones that have been in the cabinet of a president, ones that have actual experiene in international politics, or politics at all really.

people are worried about even giving trump the classified information that all candidates usually get by now. they haven't given it to him. they can't trust him

why should you?
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>>692500684

oh the DEMOCRATS released a report on the DEMOCRAT who didn't act?

Did i mention that same democrat is the one running for president?

zozozozozozoz
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>>692500971
What are you talking about retard, special forces acted.
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Trump is a damn fool, so are all his supporters. That's reason enough for me to oppose him.
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>>692501382
Yes they did?

How long did that take again?
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>>692501714
>Trump is a damn fool
Care to elaborate? Or are you just parroting liberal hipster rhetoric?
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>>692501754
Reagan never acted at all in Beirut. NADA, just tried to hush it all from the public while hundreds died.

People acted in Benghazi, and as a result only 4 died, so what's the problem exactly?
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Hillary is meeting with the FBI.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/01/exclusive-hillary-clinton-scheduled-to-meet-with-fbi-on-saturday/

But wait... I thought this was all just made-up GOP propaganda?
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>>692500402
This is why we need to use sources when making claims, otherwise faggots like you tear down facts just because your party or platform couldn't accomplish nth of what Obama did there despite all of the hatred he receives.
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>>692500597
Perfect leaders don't exis...
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Nobody here can come up with one good reason not to vote for him that's not a personal attack on his character hahaha. Not a single one.
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>>692502395
>dailycaller
>credible source

pick only 1
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>>692502401
>his is why we need to use sources
So...do so instead of making yourself look like a defensive liberal dullard?
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>>692501901
Have you seen him? Have you ever heard him say anything that made a lick of sense? I sure haven't.
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>>692502395
The FBI is going to be deciding what happens. It's their investigation. How is this surprising? I also don't see how it speaks to the credibility of anyone's claims.
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>>692502395
Hillary Clinton: "Nobody under FBI investigation should be able to buy a gun"

Maybe they shouldn't be allowed to president either.
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Enjoy that ebt card while it lasts you fucking leeches
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>>692503281
mah nigga
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>>692503281
>owns 500 businesses

*cough* *cough* BULLSHIT!

His name is on that many, but he only actually owns/owned 5, of which 4 of those 5 went bankrupt. That is an abysmal failure.
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>>692502810

you're retarded
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>>692503281
>ignore Trumps role in said businesses
>ignore respective sizes of businesses
Why would I shut up? You're clearly not saying anything worth while.
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>>692503715
Care to back up your shit talking?
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>>692503826
everyone candidate is investigated by the FBI faggot. so what? you just don't hear about it publicly.
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>>692503616
And how many businesses is your name on?
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>>692504008
maybe his father didn't give him `100 million to start off huh/?
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>>692486646
And here we see the grand folly of the information age. There is so much information, it is effortlessly warped into misinformation, and it confuses nearly everyone who tries to see the truth.

"The very concept of objective truth is fading out of the world. Lies will pass into history." - George Orwell
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ITT: niggers.

Any Chicago niggers here?

I hear you getting ready for some serious nigging this weekend...

link related: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-holiday-weekend-police-plan-met-0702-20160701-story.html

niggers gonna nig.
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>>692486646
ahem, Dat wall doe.
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>>692504165
>of objective truth is fading out of the world.

orwell was way off. we're only now discovering that objective truth has been missing from the world forever. being aware of it is the first step towards fixing the problem.
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>>692486646
I am technically an illigally imigrant so fuck me
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>>692504503
did you overstay your visit?
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>>692504383
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>>692504558
I just crossed the border.
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>>692504383
stupid people actually believe this wall will change anything. wow.
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>>692504444
Perhaps. People are too concerned with surface issues and become trapped in trivialities to see what really matters. The human mind is simply not designed to handle this age and resulting predicament.
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>>692503281
Trump is a shit businessman, and would be a shit president.
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>>692487515
/thread
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>>692504745
like what trivialities exactly?
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>>692495587
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>>692486646
I don't like trump because he's a rich man selling himself to the poor and uneducated.
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>>692505073
yes, to make himself even richer of course. what a sham
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>>692505073
He's a rich man getting richer. He was bought to throw the election in Hillary's favor by derailing the GOP.

It's working out exactly as planned so far.
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>>692486646
Welfare leech here. But opposed to Trump for many other reasons. Also opposed to Hillary. Might vote for Stein if she's on the ticket in my backward ass state.
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>>692487515
>guaranteed replies
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>>692490873
>Killary
>Obummer
Opinion instantly dropped.
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>>692505238
What state?
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I love Trump because him and other people's reaction to him is hilarious. the world is going to end in the next 50 years or so, might as well go down laughing
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I'm voting Hillary. First woman for president and all. Being a part of a historic moment.
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>>692494503
>B-but, Islam isn't a race tho. See he can't be a racist!
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>>692504816
So, if he'd been an unambitious little bitch and sat on his money like a trustfund faggot, he'd be even wealthier and you'd hate and envy him even more.

Got it.
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>>692505562
serious question: did you vote for when she was running sarah palin?
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>>692505707
I didn't vote in that election. I wasn't 18 back then.
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>>692505561
>>692505562

these are both equally dumb reasons to vote for anyone.
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>>692505707
palin was only VP and not the first one.
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>>692504859
Engineered statistics, information presented in particular ways to serve certain perspectives, of which not everyone can even agree on. When there are dissenters on what are supposed to be measurements of fact, we are in trouble.
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>>692505562
What a stupid reason to vote for a person. So If there was a Chinaman running vs a Quadriplegic Chinaman, You would vote for the Crippled one just to witness history?
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>>692490873
Great, so taxes go down, but services and military spending stay the same or go up, and the deficit balloons even higher. Then your faggot ass gets injured and since you're too stupid to have insurance, tax payers get to foot your hospital bill. Kill yourself, loser.
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>>692506024
We already had a cripple.

>lrn2history
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>>692495587
Nice list of words
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>>692505995
yeah one of the biggest culprits is using % to determine criminal activity. like saying black people are "worse" because a higher % of people with black skin commit crimes.
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>>692506170
Not a crippled Chinaman though.
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>>692506024
>chinaMAN
Found your mistake. Plus, we already had a president who was a cripple.
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>>692505980
she was in the republican primaries for president.
she lost and mccain chose her as his running mate.
she did run for president.

being the first is irrelevant.
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>>692505858
>I wasn't 18 back then.
You're not yet old enough to make these sorts of decisions. Go back to playing games and eating Coco Puffs in your mom's basement.
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>>692505439
Nebraska
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>>692506230
Exactly. It's incredibly easy to control the thoughts of any body of people by presenting the right information in particular ways.
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Most people don't even understand why they hate trump, it's just a bandwagon.
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>>692506230
Imagine there are 1,000 people. they are colored blue and green. there are 990 blue people and 10 green people. let's say `1/4 of the green people are criminals and fully half the blue ones.

who do you worry about more in the room?
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>>692506315
What is the mistake? My neighbor came from China to Kansas in the 70's and prefers to be called a Chinaman.
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>>692506395
Yes, dissuade the youth, lest their liberalism take seed!
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>>692505902
i do agree with alot of what he says though. i definitely don't want a crooked woman or an effeminate communist man
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>>692505706
Haha, faggot has no comeback to my proof of how shitty a businessman Trump is, so he attacks me instead. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>692486646
truth, but im here b.c this place is more entertaining than most other sources of entertainment, just gotta sift thru the BS as usual
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>>692506473
He is a major bigot against brownskinned people. This has been proven with both his anti-Mexican and anti-Islamic remarks.
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>>692486646
See that's the reason things are so fucked up. People vote for who is best for themselves instead of who is best for the country. They do it without batting an eyelash.
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>>692494503
Not trying to defend trump specifically here but America DOES have an illegal immigration problem that amnesty will not fix and the entire world DOES have a radical Islam problem. To deny that is to have your head in the sand.
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>>692506603
yes, he is prejudiced against them. and native americans reddish/brown too.

but so are many americans prejudiced. maybe most. all we can do is recognize it and try and get past it personally.
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>>692486646
Or not vote at all...
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>>692506664
Democracy breeds that sort of thinking. After all, if we all get an equal say, why not just speak for ourselves and let the total decide? Fuck the plight of minorities, amirite?
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>>692506729
sure there are some minor issues with immigration in this country. some areas are suffereing far worse. but it's certainly not bad enough to base a pick of president on.
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as far as im aware illegal and islam is not a race so no, he is not racist
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>>692506904
that's why the founders knew enough to make the US a representative democracy instead of a straight democracy.
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>>692506904
It's also shortsighted. How many times have we elected the idiot who gave us the one thing we wanted only to regret it years later because he fuck so much else up?
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>>692506957
Islam is actually a race, just not one relevant to American politics.
>The more you know
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>>692506516
That's gross oversimplification of the issue. That you don't so much as consider other contributing factors than just 'dark skin' demonstrates your lack of critical thinking.

The most violent and infamous serial killers in America have had white skin, but of course only they are treated as outlying individuals, right? I live beside two middle class black families. They are some of the kindest people I have ever met.
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>>692506957
bigoted was the term used
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>>692506957
prejudice can be against anything, particularly what you are not.
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>>692507098
islam is a religion, arabian is a race and not all arabs are muslim while not all muslims are arabian. genius
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Give America AIDS again!
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>>692507327
pretty sure trump hates arabs too
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>>692507327
Very few of them are white, though, and that's what really matters.
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>>692507314
i disagree you can be prejudice against your own demographic. at least thats what black leftest think when they see black right-wingers
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>>692507560
no it's just the black people stupidly voting against their own interests piss of the left wing blacks more than a shared skin color brings them together.
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What every Trump supporter sounds like
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbM6WbUw7Bs
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>>692507965
30 seconds later....

Pic related
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>>692507751
How do you know what a stranger's own interests are? Secondly, skin color means absolutely nothing people can do what ever they want to do and have any idea they want. Their freedom of choice should not be limited by their skin color.
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>>692508266
then why assume its prejudice against their own skin color you fucking hypocrite? you're like a fucking teenager trying to argue.
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>>692504742
It will increase the deficit and act as a security blanket to all the products of the system who think border jumpers are the real problem.
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>>692508041
this fucking video.
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i actually think clinton's student debt plan is a decent idea

http://time.com/4386796/hillary-clinton-student-debt-entrepreneurship/?xid=tcoshare

as a small business owner i like it.
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>>692508442
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyXTvGw2ADc

i dont other people do you fucking tard. and its wrong that people think if you have certain arbitrary characteristic that you belong the a certain group and you can't make any of your own choices. if you don't agree you are a traitor scum. this way of thought is fucked up.
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>>692508442
learn to fucking read dude
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>>692486646
>If you give a trump a cookie he will ask for some milk
>if you give a trump some milk he will want to build a wall.
>if you let him build a wall he will want more walls
>if you let him build more walls all of the US will be walled in
>and if the us is walled in the rest of the world is safe.


"If you give a trump a cookie"
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>>692509287
>you can be prejudice against your own demographic...

how can this be read any other way faggot?
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>>692509457
it's like trump's snake poem
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>>692509484
what you don't understand figurative writing? read the second line you autist.
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>>692509703
it was ambiguous wording. you need to be more clear when you're trying to make an argument.

but i'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're not back pedaling.

fuck... i don't remember what the argument was any more.
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>>692506516

>>2.5 green people are criminals...

Is it a torso and above or groin and below that is the criminal portion on the half-person?

>>Perhaps it's a little person. (Have to be PC about it, because we can't hurt their little feelings, or anyone else's for that matter)

ITT: Retarded Hillary cucked niggers and illegal spics leeching off of my tax dollar and people too scared to challenge the status quo.

If it were up to me, I'd roundup all niggers and illegal spics, ship them on Madagascar (hoping half them die during the trip there) and then disintegrate the island with approximately 20 Hydrogen bombs.
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>>692510035
ooh look at the edge on this teenager.

we can almost hear your mother calling you upstairs for dinner.
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>>692510035
Calm down, Hitler.
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>>692509934
Ambiguous? sure lol. what-ever it was all just a miscommunication
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>>692510035
This is why i'm voting democrat.
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>>692510158
>>692510221
Can you spot the people with a "FEEL THE BERN" bumper sticker?
I can.
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>>692510251
fucking text. amirite?
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>>692487225
This
China built one and they no longer have issues with mexicans
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>>692510381
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>>692510381
Imagine being born black or Hispanic and tell me you would still be saying that. Oh wait, Republicans have no empathy, yet pretend to be morally superior at every turn. Kys.
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>>692510501
too right
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>>692510812
it' because the poor republican voter wants to desperately blame literally anyone but themselves for their shitty lives.
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>>692495726
>Everyone was detached from history's lessons as they were during Hitler's rise.

No one knows a fucking thing about history. Everyone should HAVE to read about the development of modern democracy. Because MAN, that wasn't a smooth ride.

In some way I just feel powerless at this point, let the americans do what they want. History is going to judge them harshly. As long as they don't have the goddamn audacity to say: "We didn't know!" Same thing with the right wing extremists in europe. Like, this has happened before, like almost the exact same events have taken place. I washed my hands of this whole situation a while back.
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>>692506101
This guy understands it. A raise in taxes and a cut in spending would actually be a decent thing for us all. It would allow there to be more money in circulation, which we could in turn take and use for our own. Also, if you say lowering taxes would increase the amount of money in circulation you would be wrong. Since we began lowering taxes in the 70's we have been in a downward spiralling economy.

But ofcourse this is just how i see the issue
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>>692490873
>>692506101
>tfw not an americuck
>tfw almost free insurance
I really love how the main contagent of a politcal discussion can be fucking HEALTH. literally MOVE OUT
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>>692510957
“The central belief of every moron is that he is the victim of a mysterious conspiracy against his common rights and true deserts…[he] ascribes all his failures to get on in the world, all of his congenital incapacity and damfoolishness, to the machinations of werewolves assembled in Wall Street, or some other such den of infamy.”


H.L. Mencken
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>>692506101
yeah not to mention that tax changes across the board do no one any good (or harm). anyone who thinks it does does not understand economics.
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We looked, but couldn't find anything inside.
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>>692511438
wow.
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>>692486646
We all know that the decendants of all none native americans was the people who couldnt make it in Europe ;)
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>>692511520
mostly true. there were also some adventure seekers, explorers and the like.
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>>692493485
Gone bankrupt 7 out of 515 company's that's a 91% success rate retard
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>>692511207
A lot of our taxes go to the Fed, which only serves to increase inflation and line their pockets. Let's not raise income taxes at least.
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>>692511753
who cares.

biggest thing that should go WAY up is the death tax. that shit needs to be doubled and all loopholes, especially the ones the walton family uses, need to be sealed up tight.
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>>692495587
For This

>>692511745
See this
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>>692511745
bankrupted 7 of the 10 companies he didn't just sell his name to.

nope, trump is a loser in business.
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>>692512006
Hopefully everyone. It is in the best interest of the economy to pay attention to these things, along with the issues you mentioned.
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>>692512092
For this

>>692503806
See this
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>>692512209
across the board changes to tax amounts don't do shit to help or hurt anyone. thinking otherwise is silly.
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>>692511357
It's not a mystery anymore, retard. We're being robbed of our power in broad daylight. Even you can't deny donor influence to sockpuppet politicians in modern politics. Don't be a fuckwit dude.
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>>692512365
Ok. What does that have to do with paying attention to the type of tax? Are we agreeing? I feel like we are.
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>>692511753
well i can see a raise in income tax as a good thing. it can help with funding things such as the military, public health care, and most importantly for me, Public education. if a raise means a better school for my children, and possibly less debt from college i would be for it.

however i can see why you wouldn't want it, since some greedy politicians could get even more.
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here's where we're headed:

>food for anyone who wants it
>a place to live for anyone who wants it
>automation for the dreary work
>you will either be a creator or you'll be content
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>>692512569
i'm saying if there was an across the board 20% tax increase nothing would change so it's not worth worrying abuot.
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Upper class, trump ftw
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>>692512678
Do you REALLY think the wealthy elite will allow this to happen?
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>>692512785
if you're not just lying on the internet - and you probably are - being rich and voting for trump is completely understandable.
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>>692512678
Yes. We're shifting into an intellectually based society. The election of this year is the most irrelevant election in history. All of the points both candidates are tackling are irrelevant. Meanwhile, Russia is spending over a trillion for space age technology by 2035, because it knows where the real future is. This is not the end, it's not even the beginning. It's the beginning of the beginning. The economy, the way we see 'jobs' will be revolutionized. We can swim with the tide, or be swept away by it. I'm already learning valuable service-based skills that will let me gain an income regardless of what the establishment does to its economy or job market. All of these meaningless issues can and will be bypassed very soon.
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>>692513063
as long as they still get to be the biggest bestest creators out there then yes.

it's inevitable what they allow anyway. it's coming and they are racing against their own death sooner or later.
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>>692513063
Why not, if they can continue to be wealthy elites? It's just continuing to raise the standard of living as usual.
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>>692513154
not the same guy, but I make 200,000 a year and I'm still not a trump supporter. I may be taxed higher on another plan, but it can be used for good like public health and schooling.
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>>692512678
and who is better equipped to bring us into this future? Hilary, Bernie or Trump?
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>>692513397
i'm not saying you have to be or even that you should be (i make 6 figures and am not)

but i understand someone who does.

i do not understand the dirt poor trump supporters.
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>>692513367
99% of the fun of being wealthy is seeing the lower classes suffer. And how can they generate more wealth without poor people to exploit?
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>>692513790
There would still be poor people. Social classes wouldn't magically disappear, just because people have food, a roof, and basic entertainment by default.
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>>692513790
That statement is inherently flawed. They can't generate more wealth if wealth doesn't circulate or appreciate in tune with inflation as we create more dollars out of thin air. It's economy 101.
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>>692513966
A lot of crime sure would though.
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>>692513790
you only need a wide enough gulf. this isn't going to happen over night. it's going to be a gradual process. the world has already changed so much. it's almost unrecognizable if you stop and think about it.

it's always changing. at one point eating at home used to be a sign of wealth. people were so skinny from underfeeding that being fat was considered being successful.

privacy used to be the ultimate goal. now it's competing with celebrity.

being rich is a constantly evolving change that one has to keep up with if one wants to continue to be elite.
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>>692504816
>If someone with the power of preemtive hindsight knew what investments would be big, they'd be worth 8billion rich.
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I just gonna write in deez nutz
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>>692514077
that's why we need an impressively high estate tax. to break up the giant family wealth. horde as much as you want but it will go back into the pool once you die.
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>>692514405
Pretty much. That's not all that needs to be taxed for the rich, but it would be a wonderful start.
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>>692514627
i would even support a one generation grace period. your kids might be useless but they better figure something out or the next generation will be left with nothing.

anyone who is against the estate tax is a moron. i will state that flatly. there is no argument there.
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>>692514193
People don't realize how much the world has changed since just 20 years ago, and change in the modern age is increasingly exponential. In 20 more years, this world will be far more unrecognizable from today.
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>>692495587
1-not an argument
2-Muslims and mexicans arent a race, therefore there is no racism there
3-he wants the illegals out
4-gotta expand that a bit
5-nobody is forced to believe that homosexuality is the way and imposing it is just as bad as the ones who discriminate them for their sexuality
6-Islamophobia is what the left wing made up without even bothering doing their research, or they would know that muslims ARE homophobic and it doesnt even require you to be an extremist
7-gotta expand more here too
8-see the other post that shows a 91% of businesses success
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>>692515046
the internet and constant, instant communication will be seen as the turning point in civilization, the human race turning a corner. not since the invention of agriculture and not too long afterwards writing has something had such a big impact.
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>>692514144
yes, for sure. there will still be crime of course but we won't be able to excuse it so easily on the basis of need.

which means crime will be punished more severely and rightfully so.
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>>692515265
Who is imposing homosexuality, though? The entire context of these issues ought to be changed if we ever want to solve them and shut up. We 'tolerate' homosexuals. We can't just accept them, no, we have to 'tolerate'. Words can carry power more than anyone knows. Like don't be nice, be kind.

From a realistic perspective, Islam needs to change certain tenets if it wants to be accepted to the same equivalency as the other religions, just as the other religions have had to change their ways. The thing is, radicalism has overtaken Islam in the middle east. It was -allowed- to win. Imagine if the south ended up winning and kept slavery as a thing - these are echoes of what can happen when. Experience shapes everything. Just one misplaced revolution in the past could have seen Christianity as Islam and Islam as peaceful today. Honestly, it's a matter of helping them change. We can't win by killing like Trump and, hell, everyone who can't think beyond their own emotions.
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>>692516138
>The thing is, radicalism has overtaken Islam in the middle east

yeah except not really. it's only in small areas and the freak nuts make all the headlines.

most of them are law abiding, normal people. just like you.
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>>692486646
he's not qualified, and i don't want a fag who says the first thing that comes to his mind then its opposite the next day.
he may be a good guy, but he definitely not potus material
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>>692488757
Care to explain how his policies would benefit us?
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>>692516444
he's clearly not even a good guy. he;s not EVIL like the left makes him out to be, but he's definitely in it for himself.
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>>692516138
ISIS was just kicked the fuck out of iraq. Not much of a fanfare from the media though.
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>>692516350
And the leaders of the said death cult pretty much praising it, moderates doing nothing to stop it because a lot of them actually quietly agree with it, but don't let that stop you or anything.
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>>692516350
No one understands that, though, we only see ourselves from our own perspective. People who haven't been anywhere near the middle east nor interacted with any Muslim pretend they know the 'evils in the world' when they don't know Turkey from Afghanistan. Dubai is a prime example of how tolerant Islam can actually be.
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>>692516953
yeah how about some sources for your nutty claims of support?
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>>692517076
I've worked with plenty of muslims over the years. They're not scary at all. any more than white people are scary for doing 90% of the mass shootings in the US.
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>>692517082
thereligionofpeace.com/pages/articles/opinion-polls.aspx
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>>692514234
>Trump claims to be a great businessman, but after multiple bankruptcies and a horrible reputation in the business world, his net worth is equal to 1/3 the return the S&P would have provided.
>Basically, a monkey with a brokerage account could have provided better returns
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>>692517800
this does seem like a really biased link "the religion of peace"

thanks for trying though.
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>>692517883
yes making more money from 100 mil isn't really something to be proud of anyway
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>>692517905
So, where's your proof that the killing of homosexuals and "infidels" are just the belief of a tiny fringe sliver if Islam?

you know, considering you didn't even try to look at the link provided and all...
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>>692518671
muslim countries are shit. so would be christian countries. that isn't the point. the point is they;ve always been that way. the middle east wasn't taken over by radical islam. they've been that way for a thousand years.
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>>692518910
>>692518671
ISIS though is something different. and you can perceive it as the last ditch attempt by some radical people to not change.

in another generation or two it won't even be an issue.
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This troll thread isn't very good
The only reason /b/ would be pro-Trump
is because he too is racist trash
You should all make America great
an hero
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All religion needs to go.
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