Alright.
Is anyone on /b/ voting for these two people? I really want to try to under stand democratics and why they accept liars. Plus the democratics own the news agencies and spread their lies easily.
I'm from Mass. And Elizabeth Warren is renown for lying about being an American Indian.
Why would you choose them over Trump?
lol rather chose Jill over Trump or Clinton
It's the high cheek bones and blond hair that make her Fauxcahontas
>>692212523
So you are saying Trump isn't a liar?
>>692212523
>lying about being an American Indian
A white person taking advantage of affirmative action? I can respect that.
>>692214262
That's exactly how I remember it too.
>>692212523
Trump panders to peoples fears to much. Its good to do that a little, but I am ALWAYS weary of people that rely on fear to get attention. That leads nowhere good.
The best decisions arent made when you are riddled with fear, its when you are above that shit and can think rationally. No i dont like Hillary, but i do prefer her
I am. No, I won't talk about why. I don't have the patience for you fucking retards right now.
Trump lies more than Hillary fyi. Get your facts straight.
>>692212523
they don't own fox and their renowned for their inaccuracy and bias
>>692214577
Like Trump the racist, Trump the homophobe. It's all the Dems have left. Hillary is a horrible candidate.
>>692212523
>I really want to try to under stand democratics and why they accept liars.
>> democratics
they nominated trump though. THEE Elitist. He's been bribing politicians for decades - and admits it with pride.
pretty much the only person worse than Hillary. like nominating a Rothschild.
So i'll stick with Hillary. one of trump's surrogates today was saying, "Trump's lies aren't lies! he's just re-tuning his policies!".
>>692214660
How does he lie more than Hillary?
>>692215077
Bribing politicians like Clinton. Imagine what you have yet to learn.
>>692214977
Yeah, there's a lot of lefties upset about Hillary, just as there are a lot of right wing people upset about Donald.
And for good reason, I think. They're both reasonably terrible candidates for their party platforms.
>>692212523
>democratics
Fucking politics on b
>>692214577
>>692214977
>>692215077
:O these 7's tho...
Cnn NBC YAHOO MSN all support the Democratic Party.
Yes fox backs the republicans.
Trump wants to help America 'make america great again'
Hillary wants to make history and only cares about herself. 'I stand with her'
The best decisions are made when you have no emotions. I'd rather make serious choices when feeling fear rather then joy your brain works better. Usually the ones that fear survive.
VOTING HILLARY CUCKS DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR SHIT NEVER REPUBLICAN
Because social media and political correctness are killing the Western world.
>>692215077
At least he isn't a pathological liar with a trail of suspicious deaths following behind him.
>>692214660
>get your facts straight
that's something that kids would tell each other in like 6th grade
They're both horrendous people that will fuck the country over. Why vote for the lesser of 2 evils? You can always vote libertarian and say at least you didn't vote for whoever ruins the country.
>>692212523
>S T O P
>P A R T I C I P A T I N G
/comfy/ party 2016-3000
>>692215429
Dude throws a tantrum every time someone criticizes him
>>692215251
You know what you'll get with Hillary. Corruption, lying, crony capitalism. You don't know that about Trump. Be warned the first time Hillary is caught in a scandal. She has 40 years of scandals piled up.
Trump may do it badly, but he will stop fundemental transformation.
>>692215105
He doesn't and this cuckold is tired of all his facts being the same kind of bullshit his choice nominee spews
>>692214660
LOL
keep telling yourself that shilling
>>692215838
And it works. He doesn't have the media on his side. When Hillary says jump the media asks how high?
>>692216117
And then try to suck her dick.
>>692215678
>They're both horrendous people that will fuck the country over. Why vote for the lesser of 2 evils? You can always vote libertarian and say at least you didn't vote for whoever ruins the country.
>This. If a third party candidate gets enough votes, the party qualifies for matching federal funding for the next election.
>>692215879
We know we'll get WWIII with Trump. A BAN on Muslims? Legalized torture? Deporting Mexicans? A WALL?
kek even for the lulz he's too much
>>692215436
I do not undesrtand who this a person supports
It's so funny to see you all act like Trump yet some are willing to vote for Hillary.
I'd think you'd want to vote for the person most like you.
>>692216459
fuck you anon, go suck more dick in your nowhere shit town in retardville, america
(jk i'm with her)
>>692212523
>Hillary's raised nearly a billion dollars from Wall Street
>Trump has raised 0 dollars from Wall Street
I don't care how horrible of a guy Trump is, that alone makes him my choice
Dislike Democratic or Republican Party's candidate equally?
>vote Libertarian
inb4: not saying he's gonna win if people decide to vote strategically, but it's better than voting for nobody... and if people learn about him, and that he's a viable option, I think enough people will vote for him to win.
>>692216983
typo...
>Democratic and Republican
>>692216427
How do you know that? Hillary had that pathetic reset with Russia that reignited the Cold War. Really worked well. Closest we've been to WW3 in 40m years
>>692216983
You're putting too much faith in people. People are fucking retarded. You can convince a person but people are hopeless. It's almost certainly going to be a thin skinned billionaire asshole or lying she-bitch as president this year. I'd still vote for Johnson though.
>>692216983
Might as well stay home
>>692217323
lel we're blaming the resurgence of the cold war on Hillary now?
>>692217835
We know we'll get WWIII with Trump. A BAN on Muslims? Legalized torture? Deporting Mexicans? A WALL?
How do you know that?
>>692216427
Liberals and their war fear mongering. Considering the US has been at war for damn near its entire life, what would be different?
Listen cuckold, you can't convince your wife to be exclusive, what makes you think you're going to convince me?
Trump will win and all your hopes and dreams will die with Hillary.
>>692212523
I wish I could vote for Warren :(
I will get to vote for Clinton in the fall, though
>>692212523
If you don't think Trump is a liar I don't know what to tell you
>>692212523
trump is renowned for lying about being a billionaire.
most of his assets are his personal valuation of his brand. What he 'thinks' his name is going to earn.
>>692218583
Please stay home
>>692217835
Don't worry. Lucky for you you don't have to understand politics to vote. You can still vote hillary. A vote for Hillary is a vote for a big black cock in your wife.
>>692218721
Renowned by who exactly?
>>692218542
We'll be laughing at you for 8 more years :)
Hillary's ahead in every poll. And she's ahead in every swing state.
People like you said McCain would win in 2008. Then Romney in 2012. Now it's trump lmoaaa
We'll be grabbing guns soon. Not in Hillary's 8 years. But maybe in Warren's 8 years, after Hillary :D
>>692218542
Conservatives and their war fear mongering. Considering the US has been at war for damn near its entire life, what would be different?
Listen cuckold, you can't convince your wife to be exclusive, what makes you think you're going to convince me?
Hillary will win and all your hopes and dreams will die with Trump.
I love how divide and conquer still completely conditions a first world country's populous in the 21st century... God it's fucking hilarious. A great time to be rich, if not the best.
>>692212523
She has blue eyes for fucks sake.
>>692219043
it's not a verb, moron.
>>692219098
Since the petitions refuse to pass because they have an unlawful basis I doubt that. Hitler said disarming a nation is the first and most important step to controlling it.
>>692219098
We'll be laughing at you for 8 more years :)
You'll be crying
>>692219098
Aww he's freaking out. What's the matter anon? Can't handle president Trump? I bet you've convinced yourself that she's gonna win but it's such a touchy topic for you because you know, in the back of that little library brain, that she won't.
Please cry some more.
>>692219170
>I love how divide and conquer still completely conditions a first world country's populous in the 21st century
Even when it's ridiculously obvious and either everyone is fucking stupid and doesn't see it, or see's it and just goes along with it because it feels like they're supposed to. I still can't believe people still choose sides and think either side actually gives a shit about them.
>>692212523
Fuck both of those lying cunts.
With a rusty toilet brush.
>>692219170
Lol summerfag
>>692219170
>A great time to be rich, if not the best.
This, we're good either way hahahaha. May the best puppet win.
>>692219170
I love how divide and conquer still completely conditions a first world country's populous in the 21st century
Now you know how Obama won. Saul Alinsky
>>692219747
>summerfag
moot posting about the site traffic in summer not changing must have been way before you. It's OK, if I was conditioned I'd be upset too.
>>692219389
you're right. It's an adjective
>>692219799
Well, when you have to chose a lesser evil every time.... fuck a morman running our country with his magical underwear..
>>692216981
And Hillary has the endorsement of the Goldman Sachs bro at the helm when his buddies crashed the entire world's economy.
She's owned by Wall St., just like Obama.
>>692220325
So we should vote for wall street directly, no middle man. TRUMP 2016
>>692212523
Let me help you. You are looking for /pol/.
also,
> I really want to try to under stand democratics and why they accept liars
Because republicans also elect liars, but they are more incompetent. Example, Benghazi.
>I'm from Mass.
I would blindly bet every penny I own that you are not from Mass. if that's the best dirt you have on her. Back to fox news, pleb.
>Why would you choose them over Trump?
Yeah, if you have to ask, you already drink the kool-aid.
See you in 4 years. Thanks for helping to elect Hillary for president by presenting Trump as a candidate. Republicans may never live down their reputations as morons at this point.
>>692219747
you must be new here
>>692217800
Disgusting that it actually happened. Fucking hate these liberal shits complaining about how everything offends them and that we as a country need to be nicer and accepting, yet pull this crap out of cowardice. America doesn't need a nice liar, it needs a hardened and stern honest-man.
>>692212523
They aren't climate deniers.
I could go on for a while but that's unnecessary. Sadly, that's all they need to do to be better than trump.
>>692220476
Morons?...your potential candidate is a felon. But you don't care. Just put a D after the name and I'll do whatever I have to do.
>>692213437
I know he's a liar. At least he isn't being investigated by the FBI.
I fucking hate Hillary as a person, but I agree more with her policies than Trump. The biggest reason I'm not voting for Trump is basically just because he's anti-vax and doesn't believe in climate change
>>692220410
If Wall St. wanted Trump they'd be lining up behind him.
Instead *everyone* on Wall St. is doing everything they can to *stop* Trump.
The Bilderbergers - the people who own the world, or like to believe they do - had two primary goals at their little confab this year: Stop Brexit, and stop Trump.
That tells anyone everything they need to know about the two candidates.
>>692213652
Fucking this, blows my mind.
I was a registered democrat for almost 8 years, and I am voting for Trump. I actually agree with him on a lot of his points, and the idea of Hillary winning makes me fucking hurl.
>>692214660
is her campaign/super pacs paying shills to go on 4chan now too?
>>692221035
What are her policies? The policies she will actually carry out.
>>692216981
that image is perfect, I was a Bernie supporter until he got fucked over, now I'm on the Trump train hardcore. I've actually been converted to the point that I'd rather have Trump than Bernie.
>>692217800
http://www.diariodeleon.es/noticias/internacional/argentina-tuvo-democracia-centro-aprender-torturar_117834.html
>>692215105
because his lips are moving
>>692214660
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-dY77j6uBHI
>>692214660
>>692221200
The Shillary brigade has been here for a while now.
What's great about that is it helps people learn to recognize them - and that people aren't falling for their disinformation.
>>692212523
They're not Trump. Simple as that.
>>692215534
Fucking this
Husband is rapist
>she helps him cover it up.
>>692218721
regardless of what you think about him, what he may be worth or whatever, look at his portfolio. I don't think the man's a genius, but he has work ethic and he made $1M into a massive holding of very very valuable real estate all over the world.
>>692215235
imagine how Trump will be bribed. Oh wait, you think he can't be because he's "really rich".
People like him are NEVER rich enough.
>>692221385
Hillary Clinton was in charge of Bimbo eruptions during Bill's presidency. She destroyed women
Bernie or Bust
>>692221418
Wow...that's profound. Any facts?
>>692215534
>>692221720
Arkancide. It happens everywhere the Clintons don't want something exposed.
>>692221893
Your point is?
>>692212523
I'm not voting for either of these shits.
>>692222172
It was suicide! Really!
There's no blood spatter because he was just a very neat person.
>>692212523
Why would anyone vote for Trumpler?
Liar.
Phoney.
Cheater.
Welcher.
Megalomaniac.
Thinks he knows more about ISIL than trained professional soldiers.
Hubris.
Why do conservatives vote for liars?
>>692212523
#1, because Hillary isn't Trump
#2, as a tribal member, no one gives a shit about Warren except white people. Non-native ppl claiming to have NDN ancestry are a dime a dozen. Everyone, Everyone,Everyone is a 1/32 or 1/64 Cherokee who's grandmother was a princess or shaman. It's not news and no one actually cares except conservative whites who are trying to bring a democrat down.
>>692214096
All bullshit and lies. Even an blind asshole with 4 penis can see that shit.
ITT: My Grandpa's Facebook feed.
>>692212523
All politicians lie. This isnt news.
You just see your opponents' representative in a strictly negative light and think your own is jesus incarnate.
You dont know them personally. They just have to talk and please your ears. You dont have any tangible personal experience with a rep you adore to know they arent just talk.
Im not from your country and im a liberal, and I have an education in poli sci (what that means is i strongly value the right wing as a healthy democracy needs a strong opposition.) but ill say this for Trump. Hes definitely playing the crowd huge.
If you watch him talk politics anytime in the 80s ans 90s into the early 2000s, he fuckin nails the issues. He does know what hes talking about, he does understand whats wrong with america, and he had a very intelligent right wing perspective, but his current message is entirely wrong and complete pandering, and totally opposite of what he used to say.
If he wins one of two things will happen.
1) if hes talking this way because hes gone batshit crazy, youre in trouble.
2) if hes pandering and turns back to normal, trump voters are going to be sorely, terribly disappointed in his presidency, because he wont even touch 1% of the shit he has been spouting. He also wont be as much of a showman.
>>692222156
So she takes millions in donations to the Clinton Foundation from countries where female mutilation is normal, women are treated like animals, and they can be stoned to death. There is someone you want on your side.
>>692222462
you must be so proud
>>692212523
Way I see it the 2016 election is a vote between a corrupt liar and a corrupt reactionary moron (in his encouragement of things like war crimes is why I call trump a moron)
I dont want ether of them as president but Hillary at-least would make the country worse in a way im used to dealing with
and as a bonus SJWs would have one less thing to bitch about
>>692222483
And, Republicans also lie. They talk like their shit don't stink...but they're still a bunch of bible wielding, gun toting, big business favoring politicians
>>692221001
neither is hillary
investigation ended and the GOP found 0 wrongdoing on her behalf
>>692222462
If that is your argument, please don't vote
>>692222716
>>692215429
I listened to 3 of those 4 yesterday, flipping when comercials come on.
CNN and MSNBC talked about Istanbul, Trump and the Bengazi (sp) report.
FOX ONLY talked about Bengazi during the same time period.
Same thing today, 20 min of Hillary bashing on Greta van shitstain
>>692215105
This has actual data backing it up. Not bullshit rhetoric these dumb cunts spew out.
>>692222430
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/BODIES.php
Lots of suspicious deaths, but trump does hurt people's feelings.....
Im voting for Hillary. I do not know for certain if Warren will be her VP pic. If Trump gets elected he will fuck things up. She is not that different from a center Republican.
Just to see who got it
>>692222222
>>692222806
You'll notice Obama broke all records for taking money from Wall Street.
>>692222113
Wow. Learn sarcasm a little.
HINT: They ALL LIE
>>692222868
They found no NEW wrongdoing.
>>692213652
Trump lies just look at Atlantic City. His a Casino owner, plain and simple. Trumps a fucking mobster.
>>692222896
JFK signed the law in 1963
>>692220989
I'm not voting for her. You may have to take responsibility for having 8 years to find someone better than Clinton to run and you managed to pick someone infinitely worse than her. Morons, most definitely.
>Benghazi!!!
>>692222868
What absolute bullshit.
The investigation isn't over - even though Obama and toadie AG Lynch are trying to protect Hillary.
She's gonna go down for exposing (and selling) US secrets.
6 months before the election is a long, long time.
>>692222958
Google the list of people who have died associated with the clintons. They are killers and criminals...don't take my word
>>692213823
Or you could vote for the mobster Trump. The biggest bullshit artist in the world.
>>692223195
nope, they found no wrongdoing
the guy who was in charge of the investigation said word for word "we have found no wrong doing on behalf of the obama administration or miss hillary clinton"
kys
>>692217418
probably right... but if people would just band together and all vote for him, he probably have a chance, I mean, how many people don't really want Trump or Hillary? ...but I mean we'd need to convince the general public with the white lie that he's going to win for sure.
like:
>He appeals to both Democrats and Republicans, many speculate all the people upset by the current election are going to vote for him.
etc.
>>692222945
Paul Krugman? Get serious.
>>692223230
And the Clintons ran fucking cocaine for the CIA in the early 90s and murdered Vince Foster.
What's good in the hood?
>>692222462
>Why do conservatives vote for liars?
Implying there is an honest politician.
>Clinton picks Warren as her vp
>Clinton wins in landslide because of Warren
>Clinton gets indited on "stuff"
>Warren becomes acting president
America wins
>>692214084
Lies more lies, lies like that are called LIES!!
Trump failed at everything and now hes bullshitting you. SUCKER!!!
>>692220918
All you need to do to be better than trump, is not be a whiny 13 year old playground bully.
They're both god awful joke candidates but it does not matter who wins because if you still believe the presidency means anything you're an idiot.
It's like flying on autopilot, the autopilot being big business. It doesnt fucking matter who's sitting in the cockpit.
>inb4 tinfoil hat jokes
Holy shit it's unbelievable that billionaires get together to plan ways to get more money and influence the people the masses believe make the decisions right?
>>692223328
How so?
Gary Johnson 2016.
That is all.
George Bush, a Republican had 2000+ people died on 'his watch' during 9/11.
4 people die in a fucking embassay in a shit country during the Arab Spring. Bengazi isnt relevant.
>>692222222
>>692212523
Trump is an idiot
BERNIE OR BUST
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>>692223380
No he didn't He said the investigation was not focused on Clinton
>>692223328
Well faggot killer criminal or mobster not a good choice either way
>>692223599
Did you mean gary oak?
Stop pretending like you were alive in the 90's alright?
>>692222945
That comes from that completely liberally biased source. Did you know that the people that own that website back Hillary?
>>692212523
gary johnson 2016
>>692223599
I'd consider it, if there was the slightest chance of a win.
>>692223481
Though you might want to deny it. Hillary Clinton is the first presidential candidate in history under a criminal investigation. And it's no "right wing conspiracy".
>>692223604
Arab spring? It was a planned attack. Painfully obvious one too. It happened on the anniversary of 9/11.... Not to mention they asked for backup before it went down.
>>692223604
Bush didn't kill those people. Obama and Clinton had an election in 8 weeks. So they died.
>>692223314
>She's gonna go down for exposing (and selling) US secrets.
puts on tin foil hat...
Anyone trying to have a discussion about a politically charged topic needs to understand *disinformation*.
Don't make the mistake of believing everyone is arguing sincerely. Many are paid to intentionally impede and prevent sincere discourse.
Read this: "Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation"
http://www.globalresearch.ca/twenty-five-rules-of-disinformation/24889
Particularly relevant here is
>Rule 5: Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary attack the messenger ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as “kooks”, “right-wing”, “liberal”, “left-wing”, “terrorists”, “conspiracy buffs”, “radicals”, “militia”, “racists”, “religious fanatics”, “sexual deviates”, and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.
Looks like Shillary's troops' insult for this night is calling Trump a liar.
How appropriate for someone who's admitted she will say anything to get what she wants.
Too bad Clinton's gonna get indicted, allowing a Trump victory. Not only have the retarded voters allowed an insanely corrupt criminal run for office, the Dems have jeopardized their chances by putting her as the nominee. Even if she wasn't indicted, Trump would use all those flaws she has against her and shred her a new asshole along with the fact that independents and Berniecrats will vote against her. If the indictment comes, she should either start packing and suspend her campaign or keep fighting a losing battle. Good job Dems, you really fucked yourself over by actually dividing the party and sucking corporate and status quo cock.
>>692224054
No third party candidate will ever have any chance of winning if faggots like you keep saying bullshit like that.
>>692223717
and they also said that she did nothing wrong
>protip: "no new wrongdoing" is the same as "no wrongdoing" when there was no old wrongdoing either. this is why she hasn't been charged
>>692224536
If he gets on the debate stage he may shake things up a bit. For example, Bernie lost but he has been really influential.
>>692223314
yeah and the GOP is lying to protect her too?
>>692224057
The right wing has cried wolf SOOO many times, the only ones listening anymore are the Right Wingnuts. Keep kicking the dead horse....
>>692224805
What "lies."
Be specific, with links to sources - not just handwaving and unsubstantiated claims.
>>692224536
Sorry my "perspectivef" got so under you skin you resort to Trump like name calling.
>>692224856
She's under a criminal investigation run by the Obama Justice Dept and the FBI. You walk outside and there is water falling on your head you might want to admit it's raining.
>>692212523
Honestly fuck Warren, I thought she was slightly better then this bullshit but nope just falls right into line with the bullshit. Spineless.
>>692224996
are you retarded or something?
please read the post i responded to and the conversation chain before replying next time, thank you
>protip: i wasn't actually saying the GOP lied
>>692224536
The way voting works in America, I'm doubting any third party candidate can win, with the electoral college, and the first-past-the-post voting.
>>692225194
they cant
you cant just go admtting the candidate your getting paid to shill for is under investigation like that
>>692225194
>>692225547
except she was exonerated already lol
>>692225194
>You walk outside and there is water falling on your head you might want to admit it's raining
Or, once again the Publicans are pissing on your head
>>692217800
You giant retard.
The 8th congressional hearing just happend. Most aggressive committe yet, with an 800 page report which found;
No evidence that puts Hillary Clinton at flaunt
And
That there was no way Benghazi could have had support in time.
Not to mention Chris Steve was warned about the dangerous situation in Benghazi. And was advised to not go. Just like every one of his smart colleagues that are alive today:
I fucking hate all of you. Pathetic losers debating over bad or worse. Get fucked.
>>692225277
I'll take your response for specific references (not your own claims of supposed events) with an empty ad hominem as prima facie evidence your claims are worthless.
But thanks for illustrating for people how shills work:
"Prove your assertion."
"You're retarded!"
Learn to recognize this kind of obfuscation. The shills use it constantly.
>>692225168
Just sayain m80, grow a pair, your vote doesn't matter anyways might as well "throw it away"
>>692225355
I know but you have to be the change you want to see, if no 3rd party candidate is ever relevant no third party candidate can ever be elected.
>>692225255
This.
>>692225720
Sorry, you're talking about Benghazi. This is the felonies she has committed with her illegal server and her hacked emails....lol
>>692225890
Exactly, this entire thing has been one long smear campaign.
Sad really, taking advantage of dead Americans like that.
Chris Stevens family recently told trump to stfu
>>692212523
I am from Mass too and we don't need people like you in our state do GTFO to Connecticut with the rest of the Republicans and Furries.
>>692212523
Bernie > Jill > Johnson > Trump > Dog > Hillary
>>692224856
I mean, her e-mails are published online. I'm assuming you have an internet connection. Here you go.
preview dot tinyurl dot com slash jjokgju
That's the previewed version, so it shows you exactly the hyperlink you will be going to before you click it, which is a Google Drive that I used tinyurl for, to bypass 4chan's url filters.
There's more on wikileaks. The only way you can possibly still believe that Hillary hasn't been caught in a conspiracy to subvert the Democratic primary is if you literally turn away from people presenting the evidence directly to you. Because it just happened. There it is. I can't make it any easier for you to have access to this information.
wikileaks dot org slash clinton-emails
Crooked Hillary supporters can never explain why they support her. Their only responses are attacks on Trump.
Voting Libertarian. Fuck Crooked Hillary
>>692226022
>Just sayain m80, grow a pair, your vote doesn't matter anyways might as well "throw it away"
Pretty sure our forefathers would not want us to "throw it away"
>>692226310
Trump is shit.
He seems retarded when compared to Hillary.
That's not an attack it's a fact.
>>692212523
I'm not voting for her or him. Fuck em all.
>>692226214
His sister. The parents and families of those that died have have said nothing of the sort.
>>692226586
Good,tell all your friends and try to convince their families.
>>692226536
Our forefathers didn't want us to be stuck in a failing 2 party system either.
>>692212523
better than Trump
>>692226634
Who cares? the shitbag is still exploiting a tragedy and needs to stfu
>>692226310
>Hillary supporters can never explain why they support her
That's often because they're being paid to do so.
>>692226634
Apparently you cared. You brought it up.
>>692226859
>Our forefathers didn't want us to be stuck in a failing 2 party system either.
Maybe. But POSITIVELY believed EVERY vote counts.
>>692227192
Unless they were black, female, didn't own land, etc.
>>692226859
>>692227192
"There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution."
- John Adams
>>692227499
People that had a stake in the future of the country
>>692218346
Absolutely! Her participation in the deliberate weakening of American power and influence as a member of the obama administration has allowed our enemies to get stronger, tilting the balance of power to their favor. And you cheer those incompetent on.
>>692213652
Actually, the problem is that she's still a better candidate than Trump.
I care, I just would hire a blind man who used to fuck Donkeys in Tijuana for 5 dollars a pop over Trump
>>692227675
Shouldn't the future of the country matter even more to those who are poor or have less rights? (given that at the time neither blacks nor women had rights)
>>692227977
The problem is her supporters refuse to see what is staring them in the face. She lies first before telling the truth. It's her default. Expect to be deceived. It's what she does.
>>692228072
It's easy with 2 centuries of growth and perspective to see how things might be different now.
But at the time the Founders wrote our great documents, the idea that *any* of the people could govern themselves - rather than be ruled by a king - was an enormous leap.
>>692228072
Women had rights....due process.
>>692227977
Why not Bernie?
Inb4 "because he doesn't have enough delegates."
Is.. is this a fucking democracy or what? Are you going to have the president you choose, or aren't you?
>>692216427
All of these things are fine by me.
How the hell can they not be?
>>692227644
>Liberty, once lost, is lost forever
>personally fought for an establishment of liberty
>some centuries later even more people got a hand in that when slavery was abolished
Haha... okay.
>>692228605
Just wait until Clinton gets indicted my nigga. The Dems will have no choice but Bernie
>>692227499
I was only referring to the "wasted vote" not the fact that there were injustices as to who could vote.
>>692228406
>She lies first before telling the truth
She's a woman.
>>692216981
And $hillary has accepted $25 million from Saudi Arabia - but considers herself the 'feminist choice'. Fucking lol
>>692228810
>Clinton gets indicted
This is what happens in my sloppy explosive wet dreams, but it won't happen in reality /b/ro. She's above the law. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not. Not that fag you were replying to but I'll probably vote for Jill Stein.
>>692212523
Because they're not trump. When voting for president, you really just need to pick the shiniest of the shits. Trump has no government experience whatsoever. He won't know what to do and will probably fuck America over more than Hillary would, if he doesn't just get bored after the first few months. I wanna wait until I get out of university and have enough money to move to another country before I vote for a meme candidate.
>>692228731
Glad you can laugh about the nearly one million deaths it took to gain that liberty.
>>692218583
Elizabeth Warren is in the 1%. Owns millions in mutual funds, then claims she doesn't (directly) own stocks. She's as bug a liar as Hillary, they're made for each other
This is now a gary johnson thread
>>692229369
>Trump has no government experience whatsoever.
That's bad? Look at what all those people with govt. experience have done.
>>692221045
I like how they lost their shit when Brexit happened and now they are doing everything they can to show the rest of the world leaving the EU is a bad idea by trying to fuck the UK over with a quick parting of ways - before trade deals are hammered out.
>>692228944
Pick your poison.
You can find serious character flaws in every politician, if not every person.
Gonna get Ghandi or Jesus to run?
The only person I know who is supporting HIllary is my mom, who isn't educated about her political past, and is only concerned about having a female in the presidency.
>>692229698
Exactly.
"Government experience" is a euphemism for "murderous psychopathy."
It's an illness we're trying to eradicate.
>>692221385
Fucking kill me.
Name me ONE fucking right men have that cunts don't.
>>692229698
He won't know what to do. If people with government experience can't even do the job right, how do you expect someone without any prior experience or training, much less Donald fucking Trump, to do better.
>>692229698
The lobbyists will OWN him. They know the game better than the politicians.
>>692222462
Kill yourself, libcuck.
Trump is a God, and libcucks like you need to be put down. Fucking die.
>>692230127
>implying he isnt going to pick a VP with strong political connections to advise him on these matters
>>692229399
>implying those people would still be alive today
>>692222462
Its funny how people who hate Trump do nothing but resort to name-calling tactics. They honestly can't do any better.
>>692229772
The way to read Brexit is the oligarchy is an abusive pimp, and Britain is a battered woman trying to leave him.
Now that she's said she intends to leave him, he's going to beat the shit out of her to get his ho from thinking she's not his property.
It's important to remember that after the Declaration it took over a decade of outright war before the Treaty of Paris accepted what the Founders had declared.
Brexit will be no different.
And since the Bilderbergers have lost their first game (Brexit), they are going to do everything - no matter how vicious and violent - to make sure they don't lose their second (Trump).
>>692230285
>Trump is a God, and libcucks like you need to be put down. Fucking die.
If you think a man is "a god", maybe YOU are the CUCK
>>692230490
And not listen to him/her. Like he does with everyone ele
>>692230706
>Taking hyperbole as literal fact
>And they say Trump supporters have low IQs
>>692230490
>Implying he will even listen to his political advisor vp, considering he fired his election advisor. He will probably get into a disagreement with the vp, try to fire him, fail, and just ignore him for the rest of his presidency. Trump likes doing things his own way. He doesn't like people telling him what to do, even if it's for his own good.
>>692222783
You.obviously have no goddamned.clue how SJWs work. If you think you are removing something for then to bitch about, they will continue to bitch about that thing and find three more things related to the original oppression.
>>692230850
And what exactly are you basing this on? His behavior during a debate where he purposely puts on a particular role to the masses for votes? Have you even looked into his behavior outside of big media events or are you basing everything on such a small sample of data about him
>>692212523
>liars
Trump is the biggest liar to ever run for President.
>>692231062
What about Obama?
>>692214262
I want to see this
>>692225355
>Honda
>>692230842
So your hyperbole is hyperbole but mine is "literal fact"
But yes, Trump supporters do have low (read unfuckingbelievablylow) IQ's Literal fact!
>>692231655
Then why is there no evidence
>>692230642
He inherited his money, and if he had simply deposited it with any regular investment agency, it would have grown to a sum larger than what he's done with it since. Accounting for inflation, by all measures he's wasted his inheritance, and kept what he's said by defaulting on loans and scamming the bankruptcy system multiple times. The U.S. government can't afford to go bankrupt. It has no father to inherit money from.
Trump's business profile makes him singularly unsuited for the role of government. He's excellent at getting free money and spending free money he didn't earn. He's not so excellent at planning economies, or running businesses. The most "business like" feature about Trump is that he once played the character of one, as an actor, in a television show.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0874339/
I sometimes wonder if the man is suffering from a kind of mental illness, where he is unable to identify when he was walked off the stage. Perhaps some part of him still believes he's "on set" so to speak, and therefor qualified to play the role of a high stakes, entrepreneur with our country as his collateral. If possible, I'd prefer not to find out the hard way if that's the case.
If any of this qualifies as an "insult," please identify which particular sentences, and I will attempt to rewrite them.
>>692226310
That or, 'muh femunizm'
>>692229830
Dude, that's a HELL of a contradiction in principles. One the one hand, she's pretending to give a fuck about murkin wimmin. In the other hand, she jumps in bed with one of the worst governments for the treatment of women in the world.
Can you say hypocrisy? How about lying cunt?
>>692231951
>Huffington Post: the post
>>692231850
Sorry forgot the ? after "literal fact"
READ the sentence and even with a little bit of brain power even you should be able to tell it was a rhetorical question even without the punctuation.
>>692231951
>He inherited his money, and if he had simply deposited it with any regular investment agency, it would have grown to a sum larger than what he's done with it since
That is such a widespread and stupid misconception. Spoken like a person who doesn't understand finances and investment at all. Even if you were to simply use a compound interest calculator its so fucking obvious that he would make no where NEAR the same amount of money as he has now by just putting it into a stock portfolio. Do some actual brainwork instead of parroting the liberal media, you can't just magically turn 1 million into billions in a few decades from stock alone unless you are some freakish genius like warren buffet.
>>692231951
>I sometimes wonder if the man is suffering from a kind of mental illness
Nope. no insult there, no.
But I'll give you points for stepping up the shill game.
>>692230687
You mean like having him killed by some Brit faggot in Las Vegas?
Oh, wait ...
>>692231176
lol not even close
>>692226021
i called you retarded because what you said made no sense.
commenter one: "obama and the attorney general are lying to protect hillary"
me: "yeah and the GOP is too?"
it's called sarcasm you fucking autist
>>692232462
If you stole money from a drug dealer and gave to a charity, isn't that a "contradiction in principles"?
There is no doubt that at least some of TCF money went to charity. So, now what?
>>692232615
I both love amd hate the retardation of liberal butthurt
>>692232532
I don't understand what you're trying to imply. I understand that you think it's obvious, and that I have sub-par intelligence for not being able to understand what it is you're trying to imply.
Yes, Hillary is accepting millions in donations from various sources. I'm actually the one who posted the e-mails of her donor list for the 2016 year.
In addition to all this information, Trump's strategy for acquiring wealth is to default on his payments, and have the government cover the expenses. The president of the U.S. doesn't have that option, because there's nobody to default on. Trump's version of economic strategy doesn't apply to government situations, because the government doesn't have a rich dad to inherit from, or a government to file for bankruptcy on.
>>692212523
>Elizabeth Warren is renown for lying about being an American Indian.
What kind of a colossal dumb-ass cares about her ethnicity over her policy positions?
Unlike Hillary or Trump, Warren wants real regulation of Wall Street.That is what matters.
>>692232462
>because she is a woman she shouldn't go into politics because the american government is sexist
are you really this fucking stupid?
>>692232624
No, but you can when you inherit a massive real estate empire from your father.
>>692222868
>neither is hillary
>>692233170
Warren is a class A cunt
>only one in the thread to meet her
>>692233291
No you can't, because that would involve liquidating your assets which is NOT something simple to do for a real estate investor... dumbass.
>>692233170
If she lies about something so trivial as her ethnicity, what makes you think she wont lie about anything else?
>>692222958
Anyone voting for hillary is scum of the earth. Blantant ignorance.
>>692212523
Practicing crying now. They will crush Trump in Goldwater fashion.
>>692233170
>Unlike Hillary or Trump, Warren wants real regulation of Wall Street.That is what matters.
They all want that, until they get paid. And that goes for both sides of the aisle and the Dumpster too
>>692226580
No that's literally an attack
>>692224712
>no old wrongdoing
You fucking idiot, this is why they can get away with vague shit like "no new wrongdoing." She was guilty from day one, but they've been dragging this out until they could say everything was old news, let's move on, nothing new here.
>>692232679
Okay. Rewriting now.
I sometimes wonder if Trump, in all his experience as a television star, has made the mistake (and a rational one at that) of believing that because he knows how to play a stereotypical corporate executive with high caliber business acumen on the set of a television show, that this somehow qualifies him to take his policies into real world government, which despite the easy jokes that can be made, is quite a different experience from working on a television show.
Is this sufficient?
>>692233485
>implying the real estate empire doesn't generate its own revenue over time
>>692232919
So you don't understand a question - and your response is to call the questioner a "retard" and "autist"?
Surely you don't qualify for getting paid minimum wage for this. Perhaps Shillary pays by the post?
>>692233634
Yeah, but...Trump. Be realistic, Trump is categorically worse as a candidate. Republicans literally passed on this election.
>>692233948
>She was guilty from day one
guilty of what? the FBI, attorney generals office, DoD, and republican party don't think so. what do you know better than them?
>>692233634
Anyone saying this, is stupider, because i said so, and trump is gooder x100
>>692233170
That's not the government's job.
>>692234006
I didn't imply that at all, that's exactly why he kept the real estate. It earns him money. Not only that though, the man has said numerous times that real estate is his life's passion. He enjoys building and real estate development, its not even about money... though the libtards like to make it about money, pretending like he could have made more money if he sold all his property and reinvested in stocks. Even if it were true, he doesn't want to do that because hes not a wallstreet elitist scumbag.
>>692234093
I see you been listening to what the media has been saying about trump.
>>692234026
i understood the question just fine. you're just autistic, so you can't understand things like sarcasm, so your question didn't make sense
>>692234318
>it's not even about money
>trump flaunts his wealth literally whenever possible
>people actually believe he's not rich 1% scum
lol
>>692234100
>guilty of what?
Guilty of being a woman and a democrat. She also associated with a black man. That's enough for these people.
>>692234093
Have you listened to what comes out of his mouth? No media needed. The republicans fucked up this election by nominating Trump. The good news is Hillary is practically a republican, so you'll spend 8 years crying and moaning, but she'll pass pretty much everything you want like Bill did. So, buck up, /pol/ fag. You'll lose, but you'll win.
>>692234364
No, all we need to do is listen to trump, and anyone with even a GED can see how ridiculous it is to see him as president.
>>692233845
Are you five?
Is this really your first election?
How do you not get the lesser of two evils arguments that is used on every election ever?
>>692234524
There's a difference between being proud of your work and the results of your efforts and being a wallstreet insider who feeds off the productive work of others. Wallstreet investors haven't done a productive thing in their life other than move money around from one place to another. Trump actually goes out there and creates jobs and structures. He's passionate about it and its worth some respect. What can you say you are passionate and successful at? Playing video games in your mom's basement? Lmfao.
>>692217800
pure propaganda, he was not tortured/raped
>>692235313
>Trump actually goes out there and creates jobs and structures.
>has a show built around firing people
>bankrupts all of atlantic city
>>692233967
That's definitely an improvement. Thanks.
That allows for the sincere response of why you believe that, and why just because you believe that about Trump it qualifies as anything other than a projective statement about yourself. You, and everyone, can speculate about what Trump might believe all they want - *but it's not evidence that Trump actually thinks any of it*.
Moving on to the next point, you attempt to draw a distinction between "working on a television show" and "real world government," but other than the implied "one is real, one is fake," which is a slightly higher-quality slur, it also ignores the sad truth that all present-day politicians are first and foremost media performers. The details of governance is always performed by the people behind the scenes.
One could have made the same criticism about Obama - what qualifies a "community organizer" for the highest office in the land (I watched him fast-tracked through Illinois and the Senate, where he did little but prepare himself for being run for President) - and also about Clinton - she fucked a President, so somehow his magic Pres-jism imparts to her the ability to govern?
But again, your response is certainly an improvement, and for that, thanks.
>>692235425
>Bankrupts all of Atlanta
Yeah alright dude, Trump is so powerful he made an entire city collapse, suuuure.
Also the show isn't about firing people, its about hiring the RIGHT person and managing the people you have. But you wouldn't understand that because you don't understand business lmfao.
>>692235313
Trump builds disgusting temples to vanity. What he does and the way he does it is an afront to nature and I have no respect for it.
>>692235579
>arguing literal semantics instead of arguing any points because you have no arguments
>>692235683
>ATLANTIC CITY
holy fuck you are retarded
>>692235725
Yes, I know "words" and "meaning" are hard for you.
>>692235688
He puts his name on his building. Big fucking deal. You make a piece of artwork, you sign your name on it. The type of people who think this is a bad thing probably have never created anything significant to put their name ON.
>>692235800
Big fucking deal, I wrote the wrong city. Doesn't change my point.
>>692235930
>still arguing semantics and not presenting counters to any points made
>>692236062
except he actually did bankrupt atlantic city by accepting construction work and then completely flaking and using loopholes in corporate bankrupting policies to get out of it.
>>692212523
> doesn't want to vote for liars
> voting for trump
1/10
Voting third party and drinking myself to sleep.
>>692235579
tl;dr
Trump is an egomaniac who believes he is god.
I hate Hillary so shes stupid
>>692234100
They "don't think so"... what exactly? She lied throughout the Benghazi ordeal. End of story. They sat on information, ignored security threats to protect a narrative, tried to cover their own asses by shifting the blame, and stonewalled investigations into the matter at every turn. But this was all known very early on, so of course there was no "new" evidence of wrongdoing found. Just the evidence we already knew about.
She'll select Sanders and he'll gladly accept.
>>692212523
democrats...
>>692214525
the worst president & the most lier in usa g.w.(am)bush
>>692236354
>She lied throughout the Benghazi ordeal
>They sat on information, ignored security threats to protect a narrative, tried to cover their own asses by shifting the blame, and stonewalled investigations into the matter at every turn.
the FBI, GOP, DOD, and attorney general all disagree with you.
sorry, but I believe multiple government agencies and a republican led committee over fox news and a trump tweet
...
>>692236452
you forgot to include california, new york, and new england
you know, the richest places in the nation.
>>692212523
>trump isnt a liar
>>692236062
He feels entitled to more than he is worth.
His wealth holds no intrinsic value, his actions do not make the world a better place. He builds golf courses and casinos.
Most importantly, his policy is shit.
>>692236662
All rich because of those like Trump
>>692236219
You are blaming a CITY for going bankrupt because of a single citizen instead of blaming the politicians (and banks) who literally RUN the city. Just shows how extremely ignorant and biased you are.
>>692236888
Never seen trips lie
>>692222462
>>692236062
I you know anything about Trump, you would not have got that wrong. another moron following the pied piper.
>>692236888
>his actions do not make the world a better place. He builds golf courses and casinos.
>Literally building places of entertainment and sport that give people fun things to do.
Got a real genius over here.
>>692221385
>>692236929
i'm blaming it on the event which caused it to go bankrupt
those politicians and banks hired Donald Trump to build those casinos, and then he scammed them, bankrupting the city. you could blame the politicians for being retarded enough to hire an idiot like donald trump, but that'd make you just as retarded since you want him to be president
>>692212523
how have americans let it get this far? It's actually like the south park episode with the shit sandwich and the giant douche
>>692219098
>We'll be grabbing guns soon
Oh? you personally? Come get them pussy
>>692237288
because trump says things like "i would fuck my daughter if she wasn't my daughter"
>>692237267
He builds in should be nature reserves and golf uses up far more water than it is worth.
>>692236895
yeah, look at atlantic city
rich because of donald trump!
>>692237229
Yeah, typos must mean Im an idiot. You're so right.
>>692237320
How exactly did he scam an entire fucking city? I'd love to hear this one lmfao.
>>692237288
They ask Chelsea about Webb Hubbell?
>>692237429
ha yeah what a freak..... see you in that incest pony trap thread later mate?
>>692237672
TRUMP WAS MOTHER?!?!
>>692236888
Wait, wut? He has a policy?
>>692237525
Well thats just like, you're opinion man. Some people like casinos and golf courses, and it makes the world a better place for them. Maybe you are just a prick who wants the world to conform to your own personal tastes?
>>692237632
he told city planners he wouldn't use "junk loans" to build his casinos, and then he did, the loans defaulted, and then he used a loophole in corporate bankrupt policy, took the rest of the money, and ran.
I live in Massachusetts as well. I will be voting third party because I don't live in a swing state and don't like either of them. If I had to place money on who I thought would win the general election, I would place it on Hillary no problem.
And if I did live in a swing state, I would vote for Hillary over Trump. They are both corrupt. They are both liars. They are both heavily connected to the establishment. This whole thing is a bit of a sham because the Clintons and Trump are friends in real life. I hate them both.
Trump, should he be elected, will not get any of the more bombastic shit he is saying he wants done, done. Odds are he'll be blocked on everything because he's not favored by politicians, even within his own party. FWIW, Sanders would not have been able to get most of what he wanted to get done either, although I've been a fan of his since before he ran for president.
Hillary, on the other hand, has the politicking experience to work with politicians to gradually and tediously push out policy that will improve the country. She is more likely to work to support the necessary upgrades to the Northeast Corridor and train infrastructure around the United States. She might be able to get some healthcare reform passed, although that's a tall order for any president in the US. When dealing with foreign affairs, she can utilize the charisma of Bill to overcome the fact that she has little charisma herself. The man somehow rescued two women from North Korea. Bill is an underrated powerful force.
Honestly, the Republicans really wasted their opportunity to run Romney by having him face an incumbent Obama. Romney would have destroyed the other Republicans in the primaries this year, and would have had a decent shot at beating Hillary.
>>692231951
>>692237830
No I want the world to be habitable
