What does /b/ think about the Istanbul airport shooting?
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What does /b/ think about the Istanbul airport shooting?
horrible
>>692187895
>shooting
They used bomb vests.
Sorry, but you can't try to spin this one into a gun control issue like usual. Islam is the common factor with these, not guns.
>>692187895
remove erdogan (no joke kill him)
>>692187895
Turkey opened its borders and airports for terrorist to flood syria now they are getting a taste of their own medicine. i think its great fuck them!
>>692187895
Don't give a damn mainly because Turkey is a third world shithole that tries to pretend to be a big deal.
>>692188214
Pretty sure they dump rounds into the airport before popping off.
>>692188214
They used guns too.
>>692188460
They would have killed for less people if they didn't have guns
>>692187895
But guns are band there! how did that happen?
Praise allah king of the universe
Islam is to blame. The planet Earth has cancer and its name is Islam.
Remove Kebab now!
>>692188607
really?
Fuck islam
good one
I don't care
The less I pay attention to shit happening around the world the happier I am.
>>692187895
modern warfare 4: sandmonkey airport level
>>692187895
Its good for this worstlest shitting country of pro- east europe.
Fuck you turkish
Remember, no Russian.
Just another reason to nuke the cube.
>>692187895
THERE WAS AN ISTANBUL AIRPORT SHOOTING?!?!
>>692189179
this hahaha, i wonder how they pulled it off, walked into the waiting area with bags and shoot?
This is what I think of every bombing/shooting. What a time to be alive, love it. Beats any Steam summer sale. It's a shame nothing happened so far during the Euro Cup.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ux1o7F5oEb4
>>692187895
All kebabs shall be removed
>>692188728
People are quick to blame all of Islam for a few lone wolves.
People like you make me sick, and are the reason for someone like Trump's rise.
>>692189631
Terrorism are 90% from islam goat fucker
You're right, they nigger dont deserve to die, 10% are somewhat maybe not that bad
>>692189631
>>692189631
Oh fuck of there are thousand upon thousands of them, being aided or at least enabled by over a billion Muslims and a Western society to scared to call a spade a spade.
42 dead moslems
Progress
>>692188627
Because it's a shit-hole connected to an even bigger shit hole called the middle east.
>>692187895
>killing people for your religion
>who are from your religion
>during a time any kind of hostilities are banned religionally
I'd say it's got the same amount of connection to islam that homosexuality is connected to catholicism.
>inb4 catholic priests fucking kids
that's the point
>>692188214
it goes like this
one terrorist pasts security without weapon
yells a bomb will explode here
people tries to run outside
terrorists attack them from enterance with grenades and ak47s
>>692191171
not a bad tactic, group them all at one place
They killed mostly Muslims.
Sandniggers killing sandniggers. Nothing new so why should I care?
>>692190953
But i thought if you banned guns then no one would have them :(
>>692189631
>>692188627
Because we need a world-wide gun ban, so no one but military personnel can get them.
Otherwise, you just get from other country.
>>692192160
Now lets get the stats on state sponsored violence
>>692192026
Most civilised countries have banned guns. The middle east doesnt count.
>>692192160
Political anarchists are up there pretty high too.
>>692189631
You should go for helium in bag over your head
>>692189374
MW3 showed a scene where they were in the basement somewhere before taking the elevator up. Honestly I don't think it's that realistic to have an airport designed like that, but idc it was an impactful mission.
>>692187895
There was a shooting?
Story pls
>>692192618
Sand niggers religion of peaced some other sand niggers.
Literally couldn't be happier.
>>692189631
kurdish detected.
>>692187895
It goes like this:
"Remember, no kurdish."
The rest is classic since the 90's, this one just happened in the Airport, not in a school, hospital, or in a park.
>>692190360
>Terrorism are 90% from islam goat fucker
define terrorism. Air strikes from the US and Russia that kill civilians don't count as terrorism right? Don't be a sheep
>>692192160
That's because when a government kills innocent people and incites fear, it doesn't count as terrorism for some reason.
>>692194046
It does not because WE are against the enemy, there are sides where you take your alliance, Just like in your virginity based life, Were you mom wants you outta the house, and you dont.
>>692194003
are you fucking retarded that was clear ISIS
kurds bomb only military or police
>>692194003
>>692193792
>>692191979
> sandniggers
>>692187895
Ist ok. Erdpgan ist Schuld
>>692194375
kurd bomb ONLY civilian, you sandnigger cumdumpster.
> >>692191979
>>692194259
>that logic
that really makes sense to you don't it?
From the perspective of much of the world, we're viewed negatively just like we view muslims. Why? because we're all ignorant shits, you included.
WE started using terrorism before any of our enemies were doing it to us. Hell, we got a lot of our 50 states through terrorism.
Hitler was right. These people did not deserve to live.
>>692191171
And than: bhop the shit out of them
>>692194727
Hitler didn't have a problem with the Muslims.
>>692188301
You German?
>>692187895
Islam is a fucking cult. All religions are shady but I think we can objectively agree that adherents to Islam are more fanatical and violent for whatever reason.
Fuck Islam.
Eventually even Muslim countries are going to get sick and tired of other Muslims and start offing each other.
>inb4 ISIS
>>692194046
They literally dont count as terrorism.
>>692194847
You're a god damn idiot.
>>692194847
He admired their devotion to a cause and views on self-sacrifice but he would have wiped them off the face of the earth if he had the chance.
>>692192205
A worldwide gun ban?
Are you 12 fucking years old?
> Most naive statement ever seen on /b
>>692194847
>>692194939
No he didn't.
He had a plan.
>Use them to achieve his goals and then annihilate them.
Turk here, ama
>>692194939
>>692195048
In speeches, Hitler made apparently warm references towards Muslim culture such as: "The peoples of Islam will always be closer to us than, for example, France".
>>692194700
So lets just lay back and accept Sharia law? There's civilian casualties in war. The muslims are purposefully attacking civilian targets.
>>692194932
kek, well I stand corrected. So because actions of the US and Russia are offical and authorized, shit doesn't technically count as terrorism. Well damn.
>>692195233
Kek. Probably said that while standing in the smouldering ruins of a French city.
>>692195233
>>692195117
Because they understood the importance of faith. France was a degenerate culture, still is and always will be.
Nothing of value was lost
>>692195308
You realize Sharia law doesn't actually exist, right? Muslim countries don't even agree on what constitutes as Sharia law. That's neither here nor there anyways.
The US is purposefully attacking civilian targets as well. Take Afghanistan for instance. They know damn well where the civilians are going to be, and the US bombs there anywhere. The Afghan government complains about that shit to the US, but the US government is to G to give a shit.
From one perspective, they're evil. From another perspective, we're evil.
>>692187895
Pretty terrifying because my girlfriend was there early that morning
>>692195195
Know anyone who was killed or hurt?
They asked for it like a woman who isn't wearing her hijab.
>>692195792
Nah, I do not live in Istanbul
>>692195539
>>692195117
>>692195048
>>692194939
A famous anecdote about Adolf Hitler's perspectives towards Islam and the Arabs is recounted by Albert Speer in his best-selling memoir, Inside the Third Reich. Speer reports that "Hitler had been much impressed by a scrap of history he had learned from a delegation of distinguished Arabs."[2] The delegation had speculated that the world would have become "Mohammedan" if the Berbers and Arabs had won the Battle of Tours in the 8th Century AD, and that the Germans would have become heirs to "a religion that believed in spreading the faith by the sword and in subjugating all nations to that faith. Such a creed was perfectly suited to the German temperament."[3] Speer then presents Hitler's claims on this subject:
Hitler said that the conquering Arabs, because of their racial inferiority, would in the long run have been unable to contend with the harsher climate of the country. They could not have kept down the more vigorous natives, so that ultimately not Arabs but Islamized Germans could have stood at the head of this Mohammedan Empire.[4]
Similarly, Hitler was transcribed as saying: "Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers [...] then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world."[5]
>>692195767
Oh wait the country US was attacking was claiming the attacks were unfair and evil? Yeah what a trustworthy source. America has a LOT of faults but what would be the purpose of hitting civilian targets over military ones? The whole point of terrorism is you're fighting from underneath against a much more powerful enemy and HAVE to use those tactics to gain an advantage.
>>692195233
He also said openly to all the black of the US to come join the Germans. He didn't like blacks, but he was willing to use them. The man was evil, but he was cunning. He was willing to use his lesser enemies to defeat his larger enemies. So yeah he's gonna say nice things about Islam because they share a common enemy: the Jews. He just wants to keep the possibility of a future ally open. That doesn't mean he actually liked Muslims or the Islamic religion. Hitler was a ruthless demagogue. A man like that will say whatever he needs to say, and use whoever he needs to use.
>>692187895
suits the muslims right
>>692187895
i dont really. dead goatfuckers are dead goatfuckers. dont really care.
this thread is full with angry roaches . watch your step . "crunch" o shit.....
>>692194233
>>692194046
>>692192338
>Given statistics proving islam is responsible for more deaths than any other religion
>BUT GOVERNMENTS DO IT TOO!!!
Like this is a logical defense for Islamic extremism. Regardless of how many people are killed in other manners, Islam is still at its core responsible for these attacks. I'd love to see someone actually defend the religion without comparing it to another one.
>>692196207
i never understood why people are so mad at killing for religion, but turn a blind eye when killing for the state
Its weird what people conjure up in their heads to make their version be ok
>>692196001
In general, how fucked up a country is Turkey?
>>692192205
How stupid are you?
>>692196137
Way to copypasta Wikipedia faggot
>>692192160
>tfw neonazis are by far the most peaceful
>>692196207
The US wasn't attacking the Afghan government. The US was attacking the Taliban. If you don't know much about US foreign policy or who it's working with, do you? Men in the US military acknowledge this fact that civilians are unnecessarily being killed bro.
I've already conceded that the attacks by the US aren't terrorism, purely based on the definition. That doesn't exactly make it right.
>>692196456
>What are war crimes?
>>692196584
What's your point?
>>692196214
Agree.
Fuck Hitler and all of his adherents
>>692196488
%95, I wish I was British
>>692196693
You clearly don't spend much time thinking for yourself, do you? Watch much CNN lately?
>>692189179
was about to post this exactly!
>>692196433
I'm not defending islamic extremism. I'm saying all of their hands are dirty. while people focus on them, they ignore what we do.
>Islam is still at its core responsible for these attacks
You realize terrorism isn't condoned by the religion, right? According to the Quran, killing innocent peeps is as if you killed all of mankind.
>>692188607
A plane gets the job done
>>692196894
I still don't see your point. What does CNN have to do with anything? I haven't watched it in who knows how long. Don't have cable.
>>692197005
Does the Quran consider non-muslims innocent?
>>692197230
Or homosexuals
>>692195767
That's fucking bullshit, there's four well defined schools of Islamic jurisprudence (fiq) that pretty much constitute a body of law equivalent to Western statutory laws. And before there being four schools makes you think any one of them is moderate they are not, in practice they differ more on the reasonings behind sentences than on punishment of crimes. The Islamic Hsria is incompatible with Western democracy according to THEM, all Muslim countries signed the Cairo declaration in which they state so plainly and that human rights as defined by the UN are incompatible with their system. They basically did set up an alternate standard and ths is the reason they consider themselves to respect human rights when in reality Islam is the worst violator. From the perspective of just being a bsically decent human being Sharia is evil, to punish a rape victim for the crime, by stoning to death cannot be defended. "But not all Muslim countries do that" unoficially yes they do, and the reason it has to be unoficial in some countries is because they still have vestiges of secular Western law...
>>692187895
You greaseballs had it coming!
>proxyselling isis oil and EU weaponry through israel
Also, kill erdogan.
>>692197230
Yes.
>>692189631
kill yourself you sub human piece of shit
>>692187895
fake as fake can be
>>692197299
>believing democracy is a valid form of governance
Do you not see the state of the west bro?
humanity is doing things like that since the beginnig of mankind we just search for another reason ..... this time its islam a few centurys ago it was in the name of christ or notlong ago it was form germany
all the same
>>692197412
And those that leave the faith? Are they to be left unharmed?
>>692196137
Sounds like the only way to fight against extremist Muslims is by using Islam lol
>>692197230
it actually says quite the opposite
as much as people will try to tell you otherwise, there are lines that do condone violence towards non-believers
the Bible doesn't exactly preach love towards non-believers either, though
it instructs Christians not to greet them or to receive them in their house
but at least it doesnt say to kill them
>>692197569
Oh fuck off, that the retards have taken over is due to a flaw of democracy that Plato made sure to point out quite some time ago, yoiu need education for it to work, Western countries have largely failed on that respect... And yet even in that failure the West remains better than any other alternative, Have yopu seen the state of non Western countries bro?
>>692197656
>are traitors to be left unharmed
Now this is purely my understanding, so take it with a grain of salt. In today's environment such an act is unnecessary. Hundreds of years ago when the national and religious identity were one in the same, leaving the faith would be akin to treason. Both secularly and religioiusly.
That being said, I think most scholars believe that the proper penalty for apostasy is death, though there are many scholars who believe otherwise.
Islam is a fucking death cult and anyone defending it is either ignorant or deliberately dishonest. Islam was spread through violence and oppresion.
>>692198014
My relationship with my Muslim gf is ending because of this. Simply being with me apparently causes her to go to hell. Fuck me right?
>>692198122
Education for the masses will never be sufficient, and as a result, democracy will never work. There are too many people. Maybe in a Greek city state thousands of years ago, sure, but not today.
>Have yopu seen the state of non Western countries bro?
Yes I have, and they're bringing that shit to the west thanks to democracy.
• Theft is punishable by amputation of the right hand (see below).
• Criticizing or denying any part of the Quran is punishable by death.
• Criticizing Muhammad or denying that he is a prophet is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Allah, the god of Islam is punishable by death.
• A Muslim who becomes a non-Muslim is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim who leads a Muslim away from Islam is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim man who marries a Muslim woman is punishable by death.
• A man can marry an infant girl and consummate the marriage when she is 9 years old.
• Girls' clitoris should be cut (Muhammad's words, Book 41, Kitab Al-Adab, Hadith 5251).
• A woman can have 1 husband, who can have up to 4 wives; Muhammad can have more.
• A man can beat his wife for insubordination.
• A man can unilaterally divorce his wife; a woman needs her husband's consent to divorce.
• A divorced wife loses custody of all children over 6 years of age or when they exceed it.
• Testimonies of four male witnesses are required to prove rape against a woman.
• A woman who has been raped cannot testify in court against her rapist(s).
• A woman's testimony in court, allowed in property cases, carries ½ the weight of a man's.
• A female heir inherits half of what a male heir inherits.
• A woman cannot drive a car, as it leads to fitnah (upheaval).
• A woman cannot speak alone to a man who is not her husband or relative.
• Meat to eat must come from animals that have been sacrificed to Allah - i.e., be "Halal".
• Muslims should engage in Taqiyya and lie to non-Muslims to advance Islam.
>>692198437
yeah but only slightly more so than any other religion
that's pretty much all of them, tbh
>>692198437
>rape
>female genital mutilation
>honor killings
I'm no expert on Islam, but I can tell you these three, at the very least, are bullshit.
>>692188214
ya but if those muzzies would not have had guns maybe they would not have been so mad as to explode.
>>692198632
Yeah but the Muslims are the only ones commiting these awful things with their government's blessing.
>>692188413
hey euro-cucks...
enjoy your new Turkish friends
hahahahahaha
>>692187895
>What does /b/ think about the Istanbul airport shooting?
Jews did it.
>>692198630
There are a few there that have nothing to do with Islam, or are complete bullshit. Take Taqiyya for example. That shit has been refuted countless times. Stay in the dark broski.
>>692198718
Are you joking? Here in the UK Muslims commit honour killings. God only knows how much it goes on in other countries.
>>692189631
You should read Quran and see by yourself what it says and don't pull the "you have to put it in the context" or "you have to interpret this, when he says behead the infidels it means kiss them softly and be nice to them " bullshit.
Plus how come all terrorist are from Islam ?
>>692198437
we can make the same pic with the others religious.
>>692187895
just shitskins killing each other
moving on.......
>>692187895
>>692198950
Just because Muslims commit honor killings doesn't mean it is a part of Islam. That shit was forbidden by Mohammad in the begining.
People confuse principles of Arab culture and principles of Islam all the time. Honor killings are entirely from Arab culture. I know quite a few Arabs on campus who can testify to this.
>>692198944
Plenty of Muslim countries practise these laws. The ones regarding women are especially disgusting.
>>692189631
every fucking muslim gets upset and fucking explodes and you still want us to believe it is the lone wolves?
is lone wolf what you go for when you cant blame the white male?
Thought it would be the PKK, honestly.
>>692198413
They believe it today. It isn't like Muslim elites were only exposed to the European enlightenment last year, what have all those Imams whose job is to study and guide other scholars in turn been doing for the past 3 centuries? There's no excuse... Islam was barbaric for its era and deeply intolerant, the Maghrebi spent centuries raiding Europe for slaves, mfw it was their piracy that led to the creation of the US marine core. The Ottomans demanded children as tribute from their European Christian subjects. Then there's the assasins at Malamut, slavery in Africa, ethnic cleansing in the Middle East, have you ever wondered that nations as ancient as Egypt or Lebanon are now Arab? The Romans or the Macedonians were never as cruel...
>>692189631
"Few lone wolf"
There are so much of those "few" that they conquered a fucking country and are growing days by days.. open your fucking eyes, all Muslims aren't bad but there ARE a lot of people bad , not some "Lone wolf " retard
>>692199000
Please see>>692198833
I was there earlier this year. Nice airport, it didn't need to be bombed
>>692188301
as a kebab %100 agree
>>692194375
naw m8 they bombed a public park recently, ppl from my uni died, this one is probably isis tho
also pkk regularly burns down schools because it teaches "evil turkish education" to kurds
Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing..."
religion of peace my ass
>>692199181
Ok. The problem is arabs then.
>>692198632
Except Buddhism and Christianity did evnetually stop, yours is a false equivalency rooted in moral relativism. Arguing solipsistic virews is ilogical and self defeating.
>>692198718
nigga, FGM is __only__ found in Islamic countries. what the fuck
>>692194046
no that is doing the world a service. think of it like EOD blowing up a bomb in a controlled explosion before bomb can walk into a airport or school or mall or gay bar and explode in there.
>>692199186
I definitely agree. Muslim countries are a lot of the times some of the most backwards ass place. While some of their laws might come from Islam, a lot do not. Like women not being allowed to drive. What kind of bullshit law is that? In Islam women are allowed to conduct business, have their own caravans and shit (Muhammads wife had just that), but in Saudi Arabia, they can't do shit.
>>692192519
But they still have mass shootings and others that are killed by guns. So how does banning guns prevent that when they still get them and use them. I know as a fact that in the US all the mass shootings were in places where you are not allowed poses a weapon. I also know that in countries that ban guns their over all murder rate never dropped.
>>692187895
its an international airport, who do you think died there? milllions of tourists from the EU visit istanbul every summer
>>692195108
but you did not get the memo...
ban guns and Muslims will stop spontaneously exploding... it is fucking science like when goat fucker Muhammad gave his 9yr old wife the vagina of a 30 yr old so it would not be rape
>>692199618
Sorry, too busy with Muslims for a gun debate. I do prefer guns to Islam though. Dont like it when the two mix.
>>692194046
They are terrorist too, didn't say the opposite.
>>692199432
Deuteronomy 13:
do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. 9 You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. 10 Stone them to death, because they tried to turn you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery
Its a two way road buddy. Go fuck yourself for thinking your religion is any better
>>692199846
same. If we banned blacks from owning guns, it would also drop to one of the lowest in the world. But that would be racist is guess.
>>692198718
Honor killings by Muslims have even been reported in the US, you mkust be deliberately avoiding the news... Female genital mutilation is actually quite common in some areas of the Arabian peninsula such as Yemen and in the Mahgreb, it isn't a phenomenon exclusive to Sub Saharan Africa and outside of that region it is limited to Islam, as for rape, if you don't think a system that punishes the victims much worse than the aggresors encourages it then you have widespread cases such as ISIS, Boko haram, the Taliban, Al Qaeda, etc. The common thread? they're all Muslim fundamentalists. And if you think the rest feel differently look at how Saudi Salafism spreads the same shameful practices, that most Muslims are not rapists is because they're decent human beings, not because of Islam.
>>692188301
Oh fuck yes son
>>692199586
This is the problem. People take religion and they bend it to keep themselves on top and everyone else on the bottom. I feel for the women in these countries, I honestly do.
>>692199000
No you can't, not truthfully or accounting for facts.
>>692195195
Die you goat fucker
>>692199503
It's found in some African tribes too broski, but that's besides the point.
Muslim countries who do it do it for who knows what reason have nothing to do with Islam. There are plenty of Muslim countries who don't like Afghanistan, because it's not culturally normal there.
The only circumcision permitted in Islam is the male variety, which some consider just as bad as female circumcision.
The world needs to be destroyed, I welcome anyone capable of doing it.
>>692200062
Yeah Christianity is just as retarded. No argument here. It's 2016. If you still believe in fairy tales, you're a nut job no matter which flavor of the invisible sky dad you happen to believe in.
>>692200313
I'm sorry but you cant just keep saying 'oh these Muslim countries do awful things, but for non-muslim reasons.' There is a direct correlation between Islam and brutal, ghastly practices.
>>692195195
You bhought Isis's oil then you act like you didn't fucking cockroaches
>>692200062
All religions suck, my beef is with the one with the highest body count right now.
>>692199503
Holy shit, go to school you fucking idiot. Have not learned about african tribes doing female genital mutilation as a passage to womanhood?
>>692200062
difference is the bible is mans interpretation. it can have mistakes and it is up to debate.
the koran is the direct perfect word of Allah... by definition there cant be mistakes there cant be a debate
>>692199326
a fucking shame, that floor looks deliciously clean and so do the windows.
>>692200313
I'm not your broski, pal
>>692200594
well what do you count it as when American troops kill people? Because we've done quite a bit of that over the years and not just in the middle east.
>>692200711
Ding ding ding we have a winner. This is why, unlike Christianity, Islam hasnt been able to update itself for the modern world.
>>692200167
Honor killings is a cultural, not religious practice. Female genital mutilation is not found in all Muslim countries. Namely central Asian and countries further to the east. Don't know why it's practiced by Arabs and Africans, but it is not a principle in Islam.
Rape is punishable by death in Islam, and the societies punishing the victims have it all backwards.
Correlation does not imply causation. Just because a lot of these savage acts happen in places where there is Islam, does not mean Islam is the reason they happen.
>>692199181
That's disingenous, Muhamad was for stoning those accused of sexual indecency, the only difference in between that and honor killings is the later tries to resolve the issue within the family and without involving the community. Is it a lie that Muslims have stoned to death rape victims as young as 9? Right now there's a Dutch woman being detained in Qatar for the crime of getting raped, such laws are common in the Arabian peninsula. If your friends are from Egypt or Palestine then they grew up with secular laws which the populations of those countries are trying to replace with sharia. Pakistan? It's only the military that's keeping the country from devolving into talibans...
>>692200711
>it can have mistakes and it is up to debate
no christian says this about the bible
>>692200711
I understand, go read the passages before such quoted passage and see that it is a sin, according to THEM, if you transgress anyone that has not transgressed you. Other than that if you do commit said transgression unprovoked then you would commit a horrible sin
>>692200767
I'm not your pal, buddy
>>692200516
Correlation does not imply causation. To blame these acts on Islam, there have to be actual rules or laws defined by Islam to make these happen. Simply because we see Muslims doing it doesn't mean that it is because of Islam.
>>692198969
well did you actually read it yourself?
>>692200697
No, i majored in something more practical. Sorry
>>692200820
I count it as a country killing people. Not a good thing by any means but not committed under the flag of any religion.
>>692195767
Come on.. let's stop his were the evil, but who cares well kill all those goat fucker thats how life works eat or be eaten.
I'm fully conscious of what we did and I accept it.
They had Saddam Hussein that kept everything together then we came and kill him to steal his country's resources and leaved a mess there then we flew back home. We bombed them so much for no reason. We even LIED openly about them having nuclear weapon xD
They have some terrorist bombing us but the country doesn't bomb us.
We bomb them, were the bad guy the end.
>>692201038
I'm not your buddy, Islamist
the only solution for world peace is the eradication of islam
>>692200885
Muhammad was also for forgiving people accused of sexual indecency. It's not quite as black and white as you may think.
I've mentioned before, that is punishable by death to commit rape. The people who punish the victims have the principle backwards. The woman who was raped is not at fault. Any Islamic scholar will testify to that. Go to your local mosque and ask questions.
>>692200916
The majority of christians dont believe the creation story word for word.
>>692201115
I didnt say to major in it, i said to educate yourself because you seem to only stay in your own country. Remain an idiot.
>>692200840
this is also the reason a muslim will spontaneously explode when they see a cartoon. you cant debate with some one who literally has the perfect word of god on their side... you will always be wrong. and if you are right... muzzie go boooom!!!!
>>692201262
I'm not your Islamist, IJDF
>>692200861
Apart from when the acts are perpetrated by Muslims. But let's ignore than and stick with your confirmation bias. Or perhaps you'd like to appeal to purity with the argument of "no true Muslim would do these things"?
Theistic religion is not a force for good. It is a control mechanic for the uneducated masses.
>>692201371
i'm the guy who published the airport photo. nice try. have another photo
>>692187895
Honestly fuck Turkey
Vengeance for enslaving and murdering millions and trying to rape and destroy eastern christianity for the last 1000 years
>>692198538
nope, fuck her. as in dump her. If you can't change her mind there's no point. It's a dead end and you know it. Good for you. (trying not to be a hater, just pointing out that certain things are hard to work around)
>>692201446
honestly this. the problem is that most muslims are so fucking dense like you cant argue with them because they arent western/modern enough. They still hold on to the old believes. This is why all the western people see muslims etc as scum.
>>692199221
Should've shot that cunt properly
>>692197005
You didn't read Quran did you ? Piece of shit
>>692201521
>i'm the guy who published the airport photo
heres a cookie, i dont even know what youre talking about
>>692201038
>Correlation does not imply causation.
In this case it does. I'm not saying the middle east would be perfect without Islam but there wouldnt be people trying to bring about a holy war to cause the end of the earth. I imagine the women would be better off too.
>>692187895
I feel for the victims, but fuck Turkey. They've been supporting ISIS (buying their oil, letting them through the border) and using them as a proxy against Syria and the Kurds, so I can't help but laugh at the egg on their face now.
>>692201577
cry me a fucking river. tell me what the fuck your country has done thats so good
>>692200916
of course they do. it is why you have so much religious discussion. the basic premise of the bible is man is fallible. man wrote the bible what more do you need?
>>692201703
nor did you, scum.
>>692201668
They just cant integrate to western society. Which would be fine but they still seem to want to have all the perks without living the same way.
>>692187895
Fuck Turkey. Erdogan's own fault for waging war against the Kurds, trying to undermine democracy in his country and being a petty little bitch.
Hope somebody offs him soon.
>>692201717
>>692201521
That's a photo I took of Ataturk International Airport
>>692199326
So's that
I've been to that airport this year, and you're saying i need to get out more.
>>692201759
>I feel for the victims, but fuck Turkey. They've been supporting ISIS (buying their oil, letting them through the border) and using them as a proxy against Syria and the Kurds, so I can't help but laugh at the egg on their face now.
as a muslim, i share this mans view.
>>692201519
It's not a matter of the Scotsman fallacy. It's as simple as this, if it is taught in the Quran or in an authentic hadith, it is Islamic. If it is not from one of those two sources, then it has nothing to do with Islam. Simple as that.
>>692187895
We need some damn footage
>>692201875
Well my parents integrated perfectly fine into western society. We are a western family and they respect that i am an atheist now just like the rest of my family. Both studied @ uni in a western country and made something of their lives.
>>692198014
Source
>>692201703
I have, more than once. Not only that, but I've read commentaries by Islamic scholars as well as learning about the context during the revelation of some of the more controversial verses.
>>692201929
ok? It still proves that you are uneducated. Nice try.
>>692199462
Underrated
>>692201759
As a turk i agree but i feel like they need to bomb erdogans palace more instead of tourists
>>692199462
>>692202092
Saudi's primarily. Then rest come second.
>>692202031
That's good to hear. I retract what I said. A lot of Muslim immigrants who emigrated to UK in the 60s/70s HAVE adjusted very well, and their children are as british as anyone else. The migrants in the last few years though, not so much.
>>692201776
Revived democracy in the west and spread it to whatevee shit hole country you're from
Invented just about every modern piece of technology you have, including the device you're viewing this on
Liberated the majority of western Europe and stopped the soviets from totally raping Europe
We've also provided for nearly every country that was fighting the soviets after the war, and played a major role in Britain not beig crushed by the Germans
Also ended European imperialism by way of treaties, so chances are if you don't live in one of the major european countries, but your country was part of their empire before 1918, you can thank America
>>692200861
An accusation of rape requires 5 male witnesses all of whom must testify they saw the penis being introduced in the vagina. It takes twice as many women or Dhimis to make the acusation. This is Sharia law. Muhamad was a rapist himself who took a Jewish woman against her will when her husban's body was not yet cold (yes, no doubt some Muslim will argue as a prisoner of war she was willing) and took a wife whom he deflowered before her puberty (Aisha). This is the perfect model for Muslims, who was inspired by Allah to marry women even if they were relatives. All Muslim comunities entomb their women away from society to facilitate their abuse using "modesty" as a pretense, the Quran may not explicitly say to go forth and rape (except for infidel women ofc) but it's pretty much implied and even seen as charity and mercy. Honor killings are born as a result of this mentality, the Taliban are from central Asia are they not? Further East Islam hasn't yet completelly overriden the native cultures although generation by generation it continues to do so. Now Malaysians and Indonesians are pushing for Sharia, are they not? These acts are not unrelated to Islam, it isn't just correlation but causation can be clearly seen.
>>692202258
pretty much this. I am even considering voting on a right wing party
Cockroaches killing cockroaches. The more the better
>>692202258
See i wish more people realized/understand this like you have.
>>692201867
I fucking read this piece of shit take the fucking time to read it and then comr here back and you'll see how wrong you are
>>692202087
And you are posting in an airport bombing thread, but you don't know what Ataturk looks like. So i guess our argument ends here
>>692202367
Applause
>>692202258
Muslim here.
My family immigrated to the US in the 80s after the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. We're a religious family, but we have integrated with US society without any issues. In fact, interactions with us has changed some people's perspectives on Muslims lol.
The shit that migrates out of Muslim countries now a days are a different breed entirely. Full of hate, and naturally hate begets more hate. That's not everyone though, but it is enough to obviously get noticed.
>>692187895
It's a start, should have killed more of their own kind.
>>692201152
the moajority of the US is Christian and I bet that percentage is even higher amongst the military (no offense, soldiers)
religion, country, call them what you want, both are groups of people
I'm not condoning violence and I'm certainly not justifying terrorism against civilains, but they do have a valid reason to be upset
The West (Christianity) has been attacking them since the fall of Rome
The US has had troops in the middle east for over 30 years
they certainly see it as an "us and them" situation and we do too
>>692202367
oh yeah i also remember how you murdered and enslaved millions of fucking people oh haha but that doesnt count. Your history has blood as well so dont try to talk it right by telling others did wrong in the past
>>692202367
>played a major role in Britain not beig crushed by the Germans
Cheers for that by the way.
>>692201058
Yes and I cN tell you that everything said isn't true but saying Islam is a religion of peace is wrong,there are some nasty things in it. Told them to a Islamic teacher in my school and all he said was you have to interpret it wasn't the same time as now things were different then he told me to read Suna or some shit like that but I didn't .
>>692202619
What color is your explosive vest?
>>692202619
The worst of any group make the most noise, unfortunately.
>>692202396
hey but remember Allah made that 9 yr old have the vagina of a 30yr old so it was not rape
>>692202669
>murdered and enslaved
so did every nation with anything to offer- as did nearly other nation with nothing offer
-->get back to class
>>692187895
fuck the cia
>>692202079
"Context " "interpretation" .. everything is said
I just hope my girl will stay away from those fuckers. Good thing she lives far away from them in Trabzon.
>>692202396
A female accusing a guy for rape with no evidence being enough to throw that guy's whole future down the shitter is better, right?
Those rules were for a time where we didn't have any means to prove rape. Not everything in what people believe is Sharia is set in stone.
Also, him deflowering Aisha before puberty is a load of horse shit, and you probably already know that. The marriage was not consummated until after she hit puberty.
Just because Muslims abuse rules doesn't mean that is the what Islam condones. There were barebreasted women in Medina and Muhammad would tell his followers to lower their gaze. He didn't have the women whipped or stoned. I'm not even going to bother with the rest of your comment. Get your facts straight.
>>692203005
so exactly why are you trashtalking then? you just proved my fucking point
>>692202997
I'd like to do the opposite with the vaginas of some 30 yr olds.
>>692202553
Did i say i do not know what Ataturk airlines look like? No you made that assumption. Stop making yourself look like an idiot.
>>692202808
S'all good
Actually had a family member went over there to fly for your RAF during the blitz
>>692202669
yes but the west is better then you butt, goat and boy fuckers so dont even try to compare your backwards ass poop eaters to anything the west has done.
>>692202997
No because according to them "she was very mature " and they didn't have sex until her 13 so it's good :)
Fucking pedophilia
Then they'll tell you oh no it's just some wrong interpretation she was actually 19 not 13 cause the 3 look like the 9 or some shit like that
>>692201300
Fortunately I live in a country without Mosques or Muslims, although the Saudis have been trying to convert our natives in violation of our laws... I aim to keep my country free of Muslim pressence. Tell me is it not true that Muhamad once scolded a woman for not lying to save her life? She was accused of adultery but was allowed to breast feed her cjhildren for some months before her execution, that was Muhamad's mercy, you see, you can argue what you want when others are ignorant but I've read several of your hadid and your despicable filthy holy book, seven centuries did my ancestors fight to rid their homeland of Muslim invaders yet you're trying to portray Islam as a victtim when it is clearly an aggresor.
>>692203169
but little jonny wants to be a xenophobe don't ruin his fun with facts
>>692200062
Also, OT
>>692203169
wrong exploder...
allah gave the 9 yr old a mature pussy as a gift to Muhammad.
shit is so fucking magic it can make child rape legit
>>692203180
you've got the wrong anon
just putting your cunty bullshit into a proper contextual framework
>>692203169
Do you know that girls hit puberty around 12-13yo ?
>>692201891
The problem is unless they do in fact off him this only helps hm, easier for him to take control with fear of attacks on the streets.
>>692196618
Yeah but people still think we are the worst threat...here in sweden
We aint dun nuffin
>>692202976
navy blue. I was gonna go with a desert cammo type, but I figured I'd keep it classy.
>>692202985
In my experience, most people I come across don't view Muslims in a negative light, and the ones that do usually (though not always) consider things may not be as black and white as they once thought when they meet some real life Muslims.
>>692202521
You have not read it.
>>692203304
i dont compare any good things because i admit that whatever the USA invented is good for the most part. however to be this much of a hypocrite and literally being mad at some other countries history while your own is tainted as well doesnt make fucking sense. Thats like calling something a nigger while being a nigger yourself
>>692203433
dont tell the muzzies about the OT... shit makes them explode
>>692203341
Your whole argumentation is based on a book ..WRITTEN BY HIM OR HIS FRIENDS..are you all goatfucker so stupid ?
>>692203537
Girl in my elementary school hit puberty at 8 years old. Look it up, it happens.
>>692203537
and if allah is giving them magic kooters 9years old
>>692203433
Yea thats not OT, nice try summerfag.
>>692203180
>proved
that word
you don't know what it means
>point
you don't have one
>>692201965
The Quran teaches to give no quarter or mercy to the infidel does it not? The verses that are abrogated are those that call for tolerance are they not? And even them only of "peoples of the book" are Buddhists any less human?
>>692203789
maybe allah promised her to some butt raping goat fucker?
>>692203244
>Ataturk airlines
>>692203936
itt: rational applications to the irrational wastefully atttempted
>>692203169
So 9 years old is after puberty? Are Arab women biologically different from Westerners?
>>692189631
Fuck Islam. The middle east was so good before the koran. Astronomy, algebra, and other advances.
Since Islam, it's greatest export is terrorism and shit.
>>692203936
Anyone who does some research on what those verses are talking about will not come to whatever conclusion you are coming to. If you're referencing the verses I think you're talking about, they were revealed when the Muslims were at war with the Byzantines and it was specifically about the war with them. An Arab tribe under the protection of the Byzantines executed a Muslim messenger, and so the Muslims were going to go to war with them. The Byzantines as a result tried to intervene with a preemptive attack, so the Muslims had to go to war with them as well.
It is not a general rule for all non-Muslims. Any scholar or Imam will tell you the same.
>>692203169
Oh so Sharia now requires forensic evidence as a standard? Please tell us more and sauce would be nice if you please...
>>692189631
Islam itself is not peacefull, stop denying it...
The world would be way more peacefull without religions like Islam.
>>692203767
So the Quran isn't a source for Islam? Do you know how to fucking read English?
>>692203767
you need to work on your reading comprehension
>>692204346
There have been a grand total of 3 Muslims awarded Nobel prizes for science. Says a lot about the religion.
>>692204706
They're not all like that.>>692204706
>>692203673
You are accounting for the fact most people would be hesitant to tell a Muslim to their face that they think their religion,is evil ofc...
>>692204602
No Sharia doesn't require forensic evidence. The point I'm trying to make is that a lot of what is considered Sharia is not set in stone. What has been in Sharia in the past is the best that they could do with what they had. Laws in Sharia have changed over the years. Especially during the Ottoman Empire with Sulaiman the Great. He's known in the Muslim world as The Law Giver.
That's what I'm getting at bro.
>>692187895
a way for Erdogan to become friend again with Putin
>>692203789
Ok so as soon as a girl bleeds she's ready for teh dick? Get fucking lost, you're missing the point pedo...
>>692187895
Kebab removing itself
Nothing else worth mentionning
>>692203169
>In god's eyes Mohammed was the perfect man.
MFW There is no god. Islam is a farce.
>>692205358
That's exactly what they were saying.
You're the one who missed the point.
>>692205227
The problem is the law in Islamic countries are in desperate need of an upgrade, and none looks to be on the horizon.
>>692205183
Nobody has ever told me that they think Islam is evil to my face. Just because someone isnt blatant, doesn't mean you don't get a sense for how they feel about you. I've experienced my fair share, especially post 9/11.
An example would be a my friend's mother. She viewed Islam and Muslims negatively, and when I met her I could tell. Later on my friend told me how his mother (and him) used to view Muslims and how their perception has changed. Now among his friends, I'm one of his mother's favorites.
>>692205358
Yes, that's exactly what I was saying. In fact, that's how biology works. Old enough to bleed, old enough to breed, I think the saying goes.
>>692192160
as much victims from unknown as from sunni
shitty source
>>692205587
I agree whole heartedly. Those countries are some of the most backwards now a days. Muslims used to be on the forefront of progress and change, but now it's quite the opposite.
>>692205636
So you're a well-mannered Muslim. That doesn't prove that religion doesn't cause more overall harm than good. You are just one example.
>>692206018
Cheer up. A couple of years ago, Saudi Arabia said it might let women drive. Sometime. Maybe
>>692204446
Oh fucking ignorant get, Muhamad died long before Muslims were in a position to threaten the Eastern Roman empire... Muhamad did send three mesengers to do idle threats to the Byzantines, Persians and Chinese but that was it, he did his final pilgrimage to Meccah not long after securing the larger part of Arabia which he never left as a Muslim (he did travel to damascus in his youth) you don't even fucking know your own history/religion but you're trying to correct my interpretation of Quranic Surahs... Didn't they brainwashed into learning the Quran by rote or are you one of those European Muslims that aspires to be an American nigger and listens to rap music?
>>692206018
Remember when revolutions were going on in places like Egypt and people were like 'yay progress!' and then they because worse that before?
>>692206181
I'm also very religious and try to model myself after Muhammad himself. I've got a full beard, I dress modestly, I fast etc.
Islam teaches manners among other things.
>>692204446
>>692206312
[X] Told
[ ] Not Told
>>692206312
>>692206529
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tabouk
>>692205227
Salafis wan to herd you people back into Muhamad's day and you're going along gladly and without oposition, That laws were perfected centuries ago is a poor argument... And I wrote "perfected" not to use the word "change" because this is something Muslims have never done to Sharia, will you abolish the death penalty any century soon?
>>692206490
But my point is that religion isn't what makes a person good or bad. You are a good person because you are a good person, not because you are Muslim.
>>692187895
The terrorist could've just used Raid. Probably would've worked better.
>>692205764
Finding a 9 year old sexually attractive makes you a pedophile, even hephebophiles draw the line at 11-12... Honestly would you have sex with a girl that young? Would your father approve? How about your mother? I'm legit curious do all these decent, hard working Muslims genuinely believe if she bleeds she can breed?
>>692206818
Fair enough. I would argue that, there are good people inside and outside of religion, but the true religion guides people to be better than good, condones and advocates good, and forbids evil.
>>692207287
evil, like what evil, exactly? bombing airports?
>>692207287
Honestly when it comes to morals we would probably agree on most things, I just happen to think the idea of God is improbable and I fail to see how that makes me somehow not as good or not as "better than good" as you put it
>>692206018
That's a myth, the Islamic golden age was built on the knowledge of manicheist Perisans, Nestorian christinas, Hellenes and Hebrews. The arabic numbers they stole from India. What the "golden age" was that peak period in which Muslims had not yet destroyed the cultures they conquered but were appropiating their advancements, they still were cruel and ruthlñess conquerors forcing Dhimitude and slavery on untold millions...
