>be Nigel Farage >go to EU parliament one day decades ago >get laughed at >get feelings hurt >devote 20 years of my life to being butt hurt >convince UK to vote out of Europe >crash financial market >weaken euro >divide my nation >dismantle the government >set nation on course for recession >put future of european project in doubt >YOU'RE NOT LARFING NOW ARE YAR
no, I'm not laughing at the 200 billion that this man has wiped from the UK economy, the jobs destroyed, the 10% fall in our currency value, and the massive spike in racist attacks and abuse that's happened since.
nor am I laughing at the lies like the "350 million a week" or any of the other shit they made up which was repeatedly debunked, and dismissed as "scaremongering".
Nor am I laughing at the fact that the scottish referendum had a 650-page document outlining every single element of a roadmap for devolution, yet the Leave campaign had a 1,200 word PDF, and now admit they dont even know what to do.
I dont laugh at any of that, or at a traitor who has decimated our nation.
>>692175678 Someone loves john oliver Bud, it will work itself out. Chill back, invest in british business, and profit in a year. The markets are being manipulated at the moment to scare the nations of the EU, chill
>>692175678 No one said it was going to be an easy ride. I think everyone, even those who voted out expected a lot of this to happen and we probably won't have a stable outlook for about 5 years.
The racist attacks, I think this will go away. The BNP supporters are just giddy this happened, hopefully they'll fuck off.
About the 350 million, I always thought this was an odd thing to put on the bus. The out campaign are not the ones to decide what we spend money on. So I think people need to release it was more or less a suggestion of what we could spend the money on. It's entirely down to the government, whoever it may be, to decide.
I think they didn't actually expect to win, hence they made no solid plan. That was just stupid and needs to be sorted out urgently.
>>692178196 >deflecting Im not deflecting anon is concerned with his business, if he cant make it survive he had a bad model. Why didnt anon have a backup plan in case of exit? The racism is shitty yes, but i feel the majority of it is being conflated. Im not there so i cant say for sure, but it seems the media would jump on any incident no matter how small to make the decision look even worse. So to address his point, im sorry he didnt plan for the exit, and that is his fault. Im sorry there is racism, but it probably isnt as bad as the media is making it out to be.
>>692178843 Are you actually saying that in an economy in a recession, without the anti-predatory/monopoly regulations in place, a small business that had - HAD - a perfectly working business model based on trade with the EU, who will now have to fill a massive client gap - will be fine if the right decisions are made?
Are you fucking stupid mate?
Some problems you solve with being smart. Some problems you have no control over at all. Which category does this belong in and WHY?
>>692179419 >Which category does this belong in and WHY? Partly both.
Shit happens. And you guys are the tip of the iceberg, all that SJW, cuckolding and political correctness are taking it´s toll and will get worse for those that take longer to see the problem and put hand into solving it.
The other thing is that it won´t be soon enough. You can´t take back over two decades of dumbfuckery down in a couple years.
>>692179419 >blaming his problems on others Stay cucked euro, it is your fault. How long have you known about the vote? You could make an emergency plan? You couldnt put money back in case? Fuck off m8, you flew close to the sun and now your wings are burning up. You had a damn year to figure this out, but i bet you thought remain would win, and now you have the balls to say the leave campaign didnt think things through, when you didnt. I hope your business fails and you have nothing, that is what you get for being a shit businessman.
>>692180128 To be fair, those who never lose never enter the ringside.
What gets me thinking is that he, "Might Be", an honest hardworking man, the first of many that will suffer from this thing.
The hope remains that these stupid fucks realize the real problem in racism. By mean, that racism is not a social construct or a systematic way to "Keep the niggas down", it´s just something that happens naturally because of how fucking stupid niggers are.
>>692174981 You forgot this part >devote 20 years of my life to being butt hurt >convince UK to vote out of Europe >at the last second a couple of assholes swoop in and take the lead >claim my life project as their victory >get excluded from the actual leave proceedings >make whiny speech at eu parliament I would feel sorry if he wasn't such a huge cunt
>>692180128 A. it's not my business, I'm using his situation as a point B. 'flew close to the sun' - What's your point, that the EU was a great dream too good to be true? If that's the case, then the only reason it's over now is cause of idiots like you. we could have solved the problems that existed in the EU from WITHIN. That was the point of the thing, we all knew there were going to be problems to work out. But the aim, the intended end result, would have been more stable and secure than a divided europe.
And blaming remain voters for not considering the backdraft when we lost?
Is that as bad as not having a plan if you fucking win? Sure, a back-up plan if all goes wrong is a good idea, but a plan for when you win is fucking ESSENTIAL
>>692180691 He may be hardworking man, but to not plan for rain when it is sunny is a sure fire way to lose your business. He cant blame anyone but himself. This is the basics of business, but he is prob one of those ill give my employees great wages new wave businessmen who dont save or in his lexicon "hoard" money. So now he is left holding the shit sandwich with no way to dispose of it.
>>692181185 >im using his situation as a point Ok, so a nonbusiness man is trying to explain to me how businesses run, this will be good. >thinking i meant the eu as the sun M8, i meant anon didnt prepare for failure. He flew too high on when his business was prospering, and didnt have a plan for this. Look into the ant and the grasshopper tale, it explains alot. >it is essential Sure and they have a plan, and they have a while to nail shit down. Like anon does. He is tripping now because the wound is still fresh, but a good businessman begins working on his new strategy the very minute news has broken outside of your favour.
>>692181185 I will be honest, am watching from outside, and the EU never looked good in any possible way.
Sure, you guys had a plan to make a peaceful and unified Europa, have a good time making strong economy and maybe make US suck his own tiny dick.
But in reality none of that was even close to start developing. Having the germans and brits pay up for the idiocy of italian fucks and spanish sandniggers while screwing each other behind closed door was never gonna end well.
>>692181365 A lesson learned the hard way by most successful bussinessmen.
>>692182371 True, but it is silly with all the info out about how to run a business, that anon didnt do it. It is like owning a car, and not changing the oil when recommended. Sure you can totes do it, but when the shit comes to a grinding halt don't blame anyone but yourself.
>>692182013 Just to be clear, and since this Anon is making a big point;
No bussiness ever has reached stability and success before 3 years of running. That´s why ´Planning´ is a subject in colleges and unis. Today´s world is even worse, I mean, fuck dammit, you can get millionaire in a year and be homeless the next month.
And no bussiness can maintain profit and success having a bad planner.
To the BussinessAnon, don´t get overtly paranoid from now on. You just make a mistake, this doesn´t mean you will have to be a cheap greedy cunt manager from now on, but it´s just a remainder that you should always have a ´Plan B´, even if it´s little practical just have it around.
Brexit is the best thing that ever happened to the UK. I can't believe people are scared because the first few days the pound takes a hit and banks and businesses cry over lost millions.
Those banks and businesses made millions because of nasty EU regulations paid for my our tax money. The fat cats keep getting fatter and are now crying because they bet on the wrong horse.
Guys like Richard Branons cry because his companies suddenly loses 30% of it's value. I like the guy, but he is a business man. For him it doesn't matter if the ordinary guy on the street has democracy, he only cares about his business interests. And guys like him, banks and big companies can buy their "democracy"
>>692178843 >Im not deflecting anon is concerned with his business, if he cant make it survive he had a bad model. Why didnt anon have a backup plan in case of exit?
Because the business I have is working as a bespoke, custom craftsman, employing only myself, with two outsourcers I subcontract to, making items for a european market, with a turnover of about 20K per annum. Approximately 40% of my annual sales are to germans, 30% to france and netherlands, and about 10-15% to other countries, (mostly the US, where the exchange rates are equally grim). The majority of my work requires imports from the EU for materials and equipment that cannot be bought in the UK.
Clearly, my "business model" was flawed when I started doing this a decade ago, in that I didn't anticipate that the country would decide to vote Lemming? What backup plan should I have had? There is no alternate supplier, my customers are not british. I am selling to the europeans.
>>692183938 I can't even begin to describe how much i am looking forward to what people like you will say in a couple of years, when you realize how fucking wrong you were. No matter what you think of the EU, Britain basically killed itself last week. The UK's economy is pretty weak, your exports are pretty low compared to your GDP. The single market is a huge advantage for EU countries trading with eachother. And no there won't be any incredible trade agreements with China or Japan. They are serving their own interest and making stupid agreements with failing economies is not one of them. Your banks are already looking to move to Frankfurt, this referendum is horrible for them. So arguable your most important sector, the financial district of London, will probably be gone in 5 years. And lastly, you pissed of the entire EU and it's leaders, along with most of the rest of the world because you fucked the world economy. Good luck finding new friends Britain.
This was a perfect example of why we don't have a direct democratie. The average person is to stupid and uneducated to have a say in complicated matters like this. They are so easily influenced by populism and simplistic propaganda. Ask the average person on how high the taxes should be and then ask yourself again if you want these people deciding certain matters Like we are now seeing, a shitton of leave voters didn't even know what they actually voted for
>>692186250 You didnt save anything? You didnt think that maybe you shouldve had some local support? You didnt think of expanding to where you sell or where you get your materials? Also, this doesnt sound loke it will make your business flop, and if it does go to germany and start new or drum up interest in britian. Also it seems silly to me to start a business, where you have to export all your goods without having a good solid local base. Trade changes constantly, just bad planning
>>692186518 >thinking it is about race anyway Bud, it is about having non elected, non punishable officials dictating your life. Also the EU was being held together with prayers and polish labor and british money, now it will fall because it is a shit system
>>692186891 I looked at the pound-euro exchange rate from May 2014 and the pound-euro exchange rate today. Without looking, what is your prediction of how far the pound has fallen against the euro compared to where it was 2 years ago?
>>692186309 >>692186250 Nice to see a perfect fucking example for what i mean. I can absolutely guarantee what the replies are gonna be. >we are now free to make trade agreements with china, us and the likes. we will be better off in a couple of years Tell me exactly what Britain has to offer that the EU hasn't?
Its not like UK will be the only one leaving.. im from Netherlands myself and things are getting pretty heated over here too. Will probably leaving the EU march 2017 and heard France also has a thing going on atm
>>692187990 Marine Le Pen is the only one that promised a referendum and she has no chance to become the next president in 2017 unless a guy from Les Républicains loses his shit and decides to do a David Cameron it won't happen
The USA wont buy shit from most of europe. the british flag means quality in manufacturing, and the world knows it. All the high precision production is in the UK still.
its a pity that the country is so geared towards finance and banking nowadays. why dont people realise that producing goods and selling them is what brings money to the table? did everybody forget about the industrial revolution.
This country has gone downhill since the mid 70s and now all we are left with is shitty greedy banks and a crippled industrial sector & a load of liberals praising how the EU is the savior of the world. fuck off.
>>692186857 >You didnt save anything? Irrelevant. I can have £0 or a million in the bank, its not going to change the fact that my work is going to be hit by the changes in ways that make it un-viable.
>You didnt think that maybe you shouldve had some local support? Yes, I'm sure the money-tree growers will happily start up a forest to pay for an industrial infrastruture that doesnt exist in the UK to supply the specific material I need, instead of getting it from Europe. Perhaps while they're at it they can have the tooth fairy and santa give me advice on export tariff avoidance by the use of winked fairy deliveries?
>You didnt think of expanding to where you sell or where you get your materials?
Yes, I always thought about upping ship and moving to entirely new countries, instead of the one I've lived my entire life in, when I set up my studio ten years ago. Perhaps next time I'll start up on the moon instead. That would clearly be so much more sensible, if I'm equidistant from all other potential locations in case they too decide to be so fucking insane as to cut their noses off to spite their face.
>Also, this doesnt sound loke it will make your business flop, and if it does go to germany Sure. Let me just throw away everything I've done here to get to this point. after all, I couldnt possibly like living here, could I?
>and start new or drum up interest in britian. Also it seems silly to me to start a business, where you have to export all your goods without having a good solid local base. Trade changes constantly, just bad planning
Ah, yes. Perhaps I'll just start touring everywhere and by banging my magic 'interest drum', I'll create 700% more interest in the UK than I previously did. Because clearly, I've never once thought about advertising to brits, have I? No, that would be far too imaginative. It couldnt possibly be that the UK market remains small, while over the last 10 years the europeans have started buying more, eh?
>>692186309 Ok folks we got our first 3 replies, let's see what the opposing side has to say
>>692186821 empty insult >>692187015 empty insult >>692187271 Thanks for the brilliant screencap made, it's like you idiots are trying to be retarded on purpose. >value national sovereignty >putin Did you just wake up out of a 2 year coma? >putin and trump are not globalizing billionaires It's incredible. You think you have everything figured out and see behind the "globalist propanda", while you get deceived by the most obvious liars in existence. For putin, read up on how he got to power and then read up on Yukos going bankrupt. Seriously putin is probably among the richest people in the world, yet retards like you think he is the strong, honorable russian leader, who just got tainted by western propaganda. As for Trump, cmon man, you can do better than that
>>692186250 Can you incorporate in German anon? Do you have any family in other parts of the EU who's address you can make your headquarters? Not sure what you can do but I'd be happy to brainstorm with you.
>>692189257 Britten will do just fine. All the fear mongering people like you try and do will not change the fact that they will progress. They will establish trade agreements with other countries that will benefit the British people. the world keeps turning.
>>692189895 honestly, for as much as a fucked my country (italy) is, we have quite some people at pretty much every high level in industries when it comes to research. almost no one of them is working in italy, or for italian clients, but still. Then the rest of the people are monkeys, but at least we're smart enough to not leave the EU
>>692189306 That's the thing, I'd like to build something better, I just feel shit out of luck with who to work with. Farage is a smug wanker, gove is a wet flannel, Corbyn may be honest but has no nonse whatsoever, Boris has no fucking plan. Aside from the leaders, labour is full of self obsessed neo libs and self righteous sjw's and the right is full of greedy bigoted knobs who want to spend all day separating the worthy from the not and never actually helping. I'd like to make brexit work, but it just feels like a reaction to the powerless of globalisation and the horribleness of the campaign has caused so much fucking chaos it would be like building on quicksand.
I never thought id say this, but I miss the arseholeness of Brown, he'd of at least bulleyed his party into a straight line even if he was clueless.
>>692188383 Not only is that made up bullshit, but without cheap material from the european single market british products are going to way to expensive to compete no matter how good they are. This whole situation is so great. Everything you people try to put forth can be refuted in under a minute. It's like shooting fish in a barrel. Only that the fish are social rejects that think they are part of some neo-capitalist revolution and that your gun is any information that is not regurgitated shitposts from /pol/
>>692189935 No offense, but I run a business too, and shit like this can fuck up your overhead pretty quick. Last year I the FCC decided to require more tests for my industry, some companies paid for the tests, others paid the fine. In the end it cost an arm and leg essentially hurting the years profits. And the reason for the new testing requirements?? Because the big telecom companies who own congress needed more bandwit for their products.
Anyway, sometimes the government is the bad guy anon, but if you're crafty try and adapt your business or move your business, or in your case maybe look into an off shore agent who can incorporate you in the EU.
In the US the state of Delaware offers agents so people can register there, it's not costly. My guess is others in the EU might see this as an opportunity to start an off shore agent business to do just this. Look for them.
>>692190446 Yeah this is what i meant. The average population is pretty fucked, but your "elite" isn't >>692190900 Wow you can name two products and and boast about something that happend half a decade before you were born. You are really bringing the heat in this argument, i am almost convinced by your position
>>692191427 >Language, reputation and a lack of protectionism. Anybody in the western world with more than a basic education speaks pretty much perfect english. On top of that they speak other languages, which can't be said for the majority of british people. It's not the 19th century mate, your reputation is a joke. "Made in Britain" is worth less than made in france or germany or belgium or denmark. The proctectionism you are right about, but hat is not something potential trade partners are attracted by
>>692191712 i guess that's what happens when almost all the people are so dumb that the few that doesn't adapt to the canon work as hard as they can to not be like those cretins, and actually end up being kickass.
>>692190972 yes. clearly, I shouldnt do the work I love, making a small number of bespoke items every year (and I am being deliberately vague, by the way, because if I said I'm one of the only makers of [objects] in the world, it would be pretty easy to ID me).
Instead, I should just be a burger-flipper, and ignore the 15 years of making these items, the skilled trades as a jeweller, luthier, and watchmaker that I've trained to make the objects I do.
After all, what's making things for the love of them, eh? Lets just be a brainless fucking mong flipping burgers...
>>692191982 But it's not going to be cheaper, that's the point. You don't have to pay any customs when buying in the EU, that's why it's so cheap. So now you can choose to buy in the EU with customs, or outside the EU with customs. Oh no shit i forgot, you can just have your materials shipped halfway around the globe to you, fuck how are we every gonna compete with that? You retards brings such joy to my life, thank you
>>692192360 There's a massive difference between speaking a language and being able to speak technically in it. I speak very good French and German but have to clarify everything legal in English to be precise. Most other companies default to English for the same reason - we can do that better and cheaper than everyone else.
Whilst reputationally we may not stand against the Germans, we make the rest of the EU look weak for quality.
Potential trade partners aren't interested in saving money because of a lack of tariffs? Unless we're trying to trade the same goods that's exactly what everyone (except the socialists in the EU) wants.
>>692186316 >take over a bunch of mostly empty places or areas full of people who've barely progressed to gun powder >get everywhere by either being the only people with guns or convincing the locals to kill each other for you >brag about it for centuries even after its died Christ, even the Italians managed a huge empire, its not that impressive.
>>692180691 The real racism issue is due to the remain calling anyone who disagrees with them a racist.
It's degraded the word to the point where people simply don't care anymore, and people who previously would have branded them pariahs now hesitate; after being baselessly called a racist dozens of times, they now stop and wonder if it isn't another boy crying wolf.
>>692192871 Why would we arrange trade deals with tariffs? We don't need to protect the workshy French any more. We can just arrange trade deals that suit us and our partners.
It's probably gone unnoticed to those in the EU bubble, but the rest of the world is rapidly dropping tariffs every year. Only the EU refuses because it has to protect the weaker countries or ones like France that only turn up for half of their 15 hour working weeks.
>>692174360 >pump money into EU so poor countries can fucking jizz it up the wall >EU sets trade prices causing collapse of UK steel industry >eastern europeans come to uk to pick berries and live in shitty conditions and sending enough money home to live like a king in their own country after a few years >not actually part of the euro or schengen
yeah wow EU was great how shit it is now we left? oh, what, we aren't giving money we don't have to the NHS even though the man in charge of the NHS said he it could cope fine with increased pressure form constant immigration? oh wow boy howdy am i red in the face, i sure was counting on them pumping the whole amount into the NHS instead of spending it where it was fucking needed. whats that? the economy is in the toilet? because some fucking cunts in the stock market dumped the pound like a sack of shit, nothing to do with actual trade or anything tangible but don't say fuck you bankers, blame the leavers yeah great idea. don't worry about the fact that trade deals only cost the taxpayer more money because the government isn't making tax on imports/exports so they just have to take it out the general fucking pocket.
oh we get 10x as much out of the EU than we put in? well where does that come from they pull it out of thin air? well if we get so much out of the EU who pays for the politicians and parliment and shit? all the poor countries? no they fucking dont.
if retard uni students stopped pissing and moaning for about 30 seconds because now they have to fill out a visa on the plane when they go on holiday and actually grow a brain they wil get on a bit better.
there is nothing racist about trying to avoid mass population migration that would cripple some countries while leaving others destitute.
fuck sake guys come on.
nigel is a pretty cool guy anyway maybe you should think about what he says, if you stopped calling him a racist all the time you might be able to hear what he is saying, some of it is actualy sense
>>692190504 >Labour >full of SJW's Its been Tory-lite since Blair got his hands on it.
I liked Brown because he wasn't shiny or catchy and when he tried to be it failed, I don't want sexy, streamlined good-at-PR leaders, I want ones that know their shit and don't care about pissing people off to get what needs doing done.
>>692175835 >He thinks we won't just end up with the Norway EU model that's basically what we have now, but with no voting rights The leave people can be pants on head retarded, but the politicians will make sure we get what we actually need within the constraints of the retard vote.
>>692193394 Hard to proof what i am saying, but every reasonably educated person speaks pretty much perfect english. We don't learn it like we learn other languages. We also see and use it everywhere. Also interestingly, my parents both work jobs that require them to travel and do a lot of work internationally. Their are certain conferences and discussion that are held in french or spanish. The only people ever having a problem are the english. They are never able to speak anything besides english and get upset when people don't care. "technical english" as you call it is a requirement every job that might needed. As in you have to pass a test by an independent institution to get that certificate.
Best proof i can give you is that you have absolutely no idea who in this thread is a native speaker and who isn't without the context of their posts.
Your reputation is a lot better than the majority of the EU i give you that, but that alone won't help you. Again, your goods won't be cheaper even without tariffs, because your production will a lot more expensive without the eu single market. Also while protectionism sounds like a cool buzzword to throw around, it's actually important. Your government will 100% do similar shit on it's own, or completely crash your country by having millions of jobs shipped away
>>692194133 nigga u so mad you're poor now the money you gave us are just a fraction of what you're gonna give just to not be out of the market, not to mention the pound, even in the best future possible, would take years to recover to his full price AND that brexit wouldn't do jackshit about bad immigrations, you will just send back the people wo were actually working and paying taxes in your country
>>692195770 wtf where do the rates come from? from paps getting scared and selling £ £ bottoms out and is cheap so e.g. the chinese or someone buy it up at low price and bing bam boom the economy is back to normal what was the problem.
>>692196054 No, it actually has nothing to do with refugees at the moment - it just means that EU citizens can travel and work anywhere in the EU. In theory at some point in the future if someone was to give citizenship to a whole load of refugees then that could be an issue.
>>692196619 >>692196054 if eu was america and eu countries were states it just means you can cross state lines without going through any border control things or get your passport checked.
when all syrian refugees started coming into the free movement area they started putting up fences between some countries to stop the syrians but then the shit poor countries just let them all in and said oh they are europeans now guys and so they just let them in anyway. so it was nothing to do with refugees in the first place but it did mean the refugee crisis caused a lot of countries a headache instead of just the close to syria countries.
>>692196054 >>692196619 You can travel anywhere in the EU without any border controls or visa needed. In other words i am from germany, get into a car and drive to italy on basically the same road without any changes. Well except for the shitty streets in italy but that's a different thing. Since the refugees technically shouldn't be able to get into the EU in the first place, this has nothing to do with it. Before you start, yes they still come in the millions, but the freedom of movement is not the problem here
>>692197122 of course they drive it, people are only interested in short term buying/selling so as soon as it starts to drop they all sell and it tanks. it has nothing to do with how well normal people and business that do actual things are doing. are you serious right now?
>>692197122 Nono, you got it wrong you see. The pound has lost it's value, so british products are now cheaper! Also the 350 million per week can now be destributed evenly between each citizens, we are all rich!
rough US equivalent. imagine in 1976, you live in Virginia, you're not legally able to work in North Carolina, or Washington state. come 2006, you've now got rights to work in any state. Washington, Cali, NC, etc.
but a lot of the "leave" campaign fucktards are protesting because while you have the right to work in Alabama, Georgia or Louisiana, so the snaggle-toothed rednecks from there also have the right to work in your home state.
Which is apparently wrong and awful and how dare they have the right to work in any state, coming here and taking our jobs...
>>692197463 One last reply, as I'm sort of assuming you're trolling me, but just in case, here's a point that might help. People are shitting themselves over the exchange rate, but the exchange rate really only matters for imports and exports. Apart from those, the economy isn't negatively impacted by a low exchange rate. You could say that a low rate improves exports, but we really don't export much of anything these days so that doesn't really matter.
So, what actually causes a rate to drop? There's a level of panic at the moment, but the longer term issue is that people are expecting the economy to weaken, which will mean interest rates in the UK will stay low, or even get lower. As such, people won't be buying pounds to invest in the UK, and the pound will be worth less. A lot of the panic is people selling now in anticipation of future problems, exaggerating the dip.
>>692197574 They come in because there were wars in countries geographically close to europe with somewhat wealthy citizens were at war, and the citizens are close and rich enough to pay the new industry of smugglers money to get them to europe. The EU is to politically correct to say that we can only take in a finite amount of refugees and is more concerned with the surge of nationalism to realize these issues are directly connected
>>692197871 >and by Europe you mean the USA nein. we talk about the NATO. french and bongs bombed the shit out of Libya. now Libya is the terrorists backyard. only the mediteran sea is between europe and Libya.
sure the markets are being used to scare the EU but the EU won't give a fuck, they won't back down and they won't take lack of free movement in the trade deals full stop. at the end of the day britain won't get what it wants and will have lost a lot for no reason.
They might have well stayed and had there voice heard
The 350 million will keep going to the EU if Britain is in or out, they have to pay to be part of the single market, the only way britain gets to keep the 350 mil is if they cant accept free movement and so they get to keep the 350 mil but lose billions from a lack of trade.
So why the fuck did they even hint the leave campaign could do ANYTHING at all with those funds?
>>692200324 Wish i could say the same for the global value of GBP, hasn't started recovering properly yet. It will recover, but it's depreciation coincides with the release of new and and nvidia tech and I'M SICK OF PAYING A PREMIUM FOR MY FUCKING TECH YOU BASTARDS
>>692181042 I don't get it? The EU is White European nations (sure the medditeranian ones have a bit of a tan but still white). So opposing uncontrolled migration from the EU and wanting a broader points based system for immigration from the world in general (including all those non white/non European countries) is 'racist'?
Fucking weird idea of racism when we want to prioritise say an Indian Doctor over unskilled white Romanians coming here?
Are you living in some sort of fantasy saturday morning television world? Do you think the kind of pond life that voted for Brexit will ever have a realisation? They'll just blame someone or something else
- Politicians - Banks - Illuminati - Foreigners - Children of foreigners - Anyone with an accent - Anyone richer than them - Anyone to the left of their political views - "Not believing hard enough in GRATE BRITTIN" - The Scottish - The Welsh
I could go on forever just like they will go on forever, it will never be their fault in their eyes, it will always be the Utopia that could have been if not for other people. Fuck I have no doubt that when Britain descends into the hell it's creating for itself by valuing the opinion of the "Working class" above all else they'll still find a way to blame the EU.
>>692202253 we're the ones that stood in the way of you doing stupid shit... part of the reason why Germany still wants us there. With us gone you're free to go for greater integration while ignoring the obvious structural changes you need to make within some countries... good luck when Spain etc.. turn into the next Greece and some technocrats dictate what their govt can and can't do
>>692202465 aha... so nobody is to blame, there are no corrupt politicians, no corrupt bankers, our industry wasn't moved abroad, our money isn't being used to line the pockets of the EU elite, immigration hasn't made the country overcrowded, and our services across the country aren't underfunded...
You can't even read and you think I'm going to respect your opinion? Did I say nobody is to blame? My point is that Brexiters will never take responsibility for the consequences of Brexit and you're doing nothing but proving my point of "Utopia if not for other people".
There will always be corrupt politicians, penny pinching businesses and rich people, but you've cut the nose off our economy to spite the face of this evil "Elite" brexiters keep moaning about, a faceless illuminati of people who are, in reality, probably just more successful at being scum than you are
well you know the saying, "we're in it together"... though people are shitting themselves over potential challenges in the future, instead of looking to build a better future than with the corrupt and failing EU
>>692175678 >massive spike in racist attacks jesus, people aren't gullible enough to believe this are they? The narrative about racist attacks is being pushed by the same media that told you that Remain was almost definitely going to win. Meanwhile in reality (i.e. outside of twitter) nothing much has happened
What do they have to do to convince you that they're biased Europhiles? Bedeck the Channel 4 newsroom in EU flags?
>no, I'm not laughing at the 200 billion that this man has wiped from the UK economy, everyone knew that the UK economy would take a temporary hit if Brexit was announced. Aren't the left the ones always saying that you shouldn't let the international financial markets hold you hostage and dictate policy? In any case, the markets are not in freefall, and there's no evidence that this is more than a temporary fluctuation.
>the 10% fall in our currency value this actually may very well be good for the manufacturing sector.
>>692204142 b-but anon, now the Uk is basically africa and every big nation at the moment is just taking the useful guys away, waiting to feast on the cadaver of your economy. You're basically deadweight for everyone now.
>>692174360 erm yes... actually I haven't stopped laughing since the Brexit, mainly due to the never ending butthurt of the remain camp spewing their swivel eyed drivel across the internet - it's great
>>692204608 >jesus, people aren't gullible enough to believe this are they? The narrative about racist attacks is being pushed by the same media
the "Media" being the british-born, middle eastern friend threatened on a bus in Edinburgh while being told "fuck off home"? Or the roma woman who was cornered by a guy jabbing her in the chest in Cambridge? Or the ones I know in london who had stuff yelled at him? Or the german woman I know in Scarborough who had to hide in the top of her house when a gang of 10-20 people were chanting and kicking at doors along , singing about "getting the pakis and the poles out"? And so on? all manufactured by the "media"?
No. This is happening. police have stated that there's been a huge spike in incidents. This is not "the media". this is reality. The racists, from the BNP to combat 18, to every ignorant ned have seen it as a mandate to act like complete cunts, that 52% of the country support them.
It is real, it is happening. people are getting attacked. people are getting abuse. the whole thing is getting nasty, fast.
It's called "retention centers". Be a migrant, get caught in the street with no ID even years after you arrived, and you are mostly kill. It's the only way (for an illegal alien, at least) to go to jail without seeing a judge.
It can last 30-50 days, and usually you are detained just to give time to prepare your exile.
>>692206170 HAHAHAHAHAHAHA yeah cause faggots that illegally cross the border into Bulgaria can only do so because we're in the EU, right? you stupid faggot, illegals are just that ILLEGAL changing laws does FUCK ALL about them by definition
>the "Media" being the british-born, middle eastern friend threatened on a bus in Edinburgh while being told "fuck off home"? Or the roma woman who was cornered by a guy jabbing her in the chest in Cambridge? Or the ones I know in london who had stuff yelled at him? Or the german woman I know in Scarborough who had to hide in the top of her house when a gang of 10-20 people were chanting and kicking at doors along , singing about "getting the pakis and the poles out"? And so on? all manufactured by the "media"?
Good golly someone was told to "fuck off home"? And a guy you know had stuff shouted at him? What kind of world are we living in where atrocities such as these can occur? Clearly this is a humanitarian crisis.
>>692206258 not 52% of the country, 52% of the 72% turnout (even at 100% turnout it would exclude folk not eligible to vote)
numbers numbers numbers...
racism has always been around in small pockets like this, usually just the muslims and britain first and the ilk that clash... but obviously some others are being unjustly targeted by these dickheads, most of which were probably too pissed to go vote last thursday
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