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Worth taking a moment to think about.
>>691582628
It's obvious obvious bait, but I'll bite. The second amendment was written so that citizens could fight the evils of man and tyranical government. Which is now armed with modern weaponry. We can't be expected to defend ourselves from that with ancient shit.
>>691582628
>what is OP's point?
should we allow an overreaching government to revoke some of our rights due to techonology? and if so, how for are you willing to take this?
>>691582628
2nd amendment idea
>Use same weapons that they used to defend our selfs
so they thought of it for muskets because they had muskets, so if a sand nigger has an ak i think it's more than fair i own an ak to defend my self.
a robber has a pistol to do harm, why can i have a pistol to defend my self?
>>691583088
>thinking anything you can get your hands on would protect you if the US government really wanted to bend you over
Britfag here
inb4 a bunch of butthurt Americans preaching about fighting oppressive governments?
When was the last time you needed your 2nd Ammendment? Oh yeah, a single local event the 19th century. And that's THE ONLY example of it.
Fuckin Americans, you make me kek. You are so paranoid. Hilarious.
>>691582628
Yeah and when they wrote the 1st amendment, the internet didn't exist. What's your point? We keep the 2nd because it's a good idea, not because the bill of rights is magic.
Maybe we should stop getting singles in a dubs thread
>>691582628
Please. The (non-sustained) rate of fire of some of their handheld firearms was closer to 10 shots per minute.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girandoni_air_rifle
Also, it's the law until it's amended.
>>691582628
It wasn't' about the weapons, retard. It was about men being able to defend the Constitution.
>>691583395
This. There IS NO protection from the government. I don't care how many heavy-duty weapons you might have.
If they want you, they ARE going to get you.
This fantasy of being able to protect yourself from them is just that:
A FANTASY.
>>691582628
>Worth taking a moment to think about.
No, utterly worthless arguement. Are we going to abolish USA because her decleration of independence is 250 years old? See, it's a shitty arguement.
>>691583395
>you are making our point.. we should be allowed more arms due to weaponry equality to keep it in check, not less.
>>691583439
And yet by some miracle, we havn't had to change our form of government since that single event since the 19th century. Pretty effective, I'd say.
>>691582628
i agree that civilians should only use muskets, but that's only if the government and police also only use muskets
>>691583439
> When was the last time you needed your 2nd Ammendment?\
When we kicked your ass, snaggletoof faggot.
>>691583307
>>691583439
refer to here, GL on that brexit btw :)
>>691583545
>Place of origin: Holy Roman Empire
>Holy
>Roman
>Empire
>>691583395
You're right. Fuck it. Blunderbusses for everyone. What difference does it make. Also, the viet cong would like a word with you that's a pretty good example of a RELATIVELY outgunned peoples.
>>691583439
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Athens_%281946%29
Happens every once in awhile.
>>691583088
I don't care how many people own guns, or how Dirty Harry they are, they will never be able to take on the government.
>>691583439
Go suck your Queen's taint you plebe. I do recall the first time we needed to use the 2nd Amendment and that was to kick your fucking tally wankin asses.
>>691582628
Nope, can't stop using 18th century laws to regulate 21 century weapons. If you ban guns in America then there will be 300 million illegal guns floating around and no citizen is legally allowed to defend themselves from any criminal who has one. It's not like any other country, we are saturated with weapons to begin with, they aren't. Does it sound like a nightmare for every person in the US to now be in the midst of fearless gun toting criminals? That's because it is. And you can't cause this criminal state because mass shootings occurred. It's an overreaction and an emotional response to tragedy.
>>691583889
It would only take 6% of the united states' population to perform an armed insurgency.
>>691582628
OP dipshit, regular citizens don't get to own cycle rate 600 guns.
>>691582628
This has been talked to DEATH and my argument has probably been better articulated before, but sure. Each side has its merits in the argument, there is no bullshit usually. However, each has its drawbacks. No guns, more criminals with them. Ban guns, black market explosion. No certain guns, black market demand explodes for that gun, and the populace rush to buy them before the ban, skyrocketing prices.
Essentially, there's no clean way to get rid of a certain weapon after the mass-production and consumption of these firearms. It's just not feasible, the country is too large, black market too powerful, consumers too dedicated and determined to get what they want.
However, the gun control I find to be a worthwhile investment, is gatekeeping. Gun owners require an in-depth mental evaluation, hefty security deposit, and medical history. If there's any evidence of haziness amongst those, dash the purchase.
Obviously some fuck with just take a family member, friend's, or buy a weapon off the streets to do his dirty work. But, it can't hurt to make the purchasing process for a firearm more streamlined and in-line with the health of the consumer, and the public.
>>691583611
>thinking the American society should be equally equipped to combat their first world country military, army, air force, and marine corp
>>691584047
Interestingly, this has been proposed 2 different times in the past month by the republican party. And it was voted down in the senate, due to the fact that it didn't include a "ban on assault weapons". Makes you wonder.
Yea we should ride horses, get rid of air conditionin , tvs , computers, electricity ect. OP is a fag.
>>691583574
>THERES NO PROTECTION FROM THE GOVERNENT SO FUCK IT WHO CARES RIGHT? LET EM TAKE THE GUNS
>>691584142
>implying that they couldn't right goddamn now, should enough of the general populous band together
>>691583941
And you haven't needed it since.
Americans are so delusional. Honestly hilarious. Enjoy your weekly shootings. Well, it's probably a good thing, one less American the better, eh?
>>691584142
>precisely.
why shouldnt we?
what is the military and government other than a group of people with a "monopoly of force"?
why shouldn't there be a secondary check by the citizenry in case voting is not honored?
>>691584185
Makes you wonder how the fucking NRA got so damn powerful that so many politicians do whatever the NRA wants.
>>691584185
It was also shot down because it included due process rights.
>>691584142
>thinking they shouldn't
How else can the people maintain control of their government? If one side has all the guns, they can do whatever they want.
>>691584185
You can classify anything as an assault weapon, change the name to exclude "assault", and change manufacturing names. Have the patent holders legally alter the names of their firearms in order to help this go smoothly. With the word "assault" out of the firearm community, and the public/media believing they once and for all banned "assault" weapons, the worst of the Left will rejoice, and worst of the Right will weep.
But, the VAST majority between the two won't really give a shit.
>>691583395
The reason they havent turned into full blown dictators is because we still have them fucking dumbass. Why do you think they are faking so many god damn shootings? They want us to have no protection so that we would be scared and not be able to protect ourselves so we rely on them even more. Its called power.
Why do people think cooperative defense is a bad idea? Sociopathic criminals only care about forceful repercussions, not laws.
t. Not an anarchist
>>691582628
Back in the 18th century people were less fucked in the head and less capable of mass murder with things other than guns and swords. In fact you should be getting a bigger gun because the world is more dangerous.
>>691584331
>haven't needed it since
>1812
>Civil War
>home invasions, crimes, and robberies two centuries afterward
Hey, at least we have guns. Your criminals do but you certainly don't.
>>691583395
>implying there are enough armed service members in the US military to combat 90 million gun owners
>>691583439
French fag here. Shut the fuck up
>>691584647
>Why do you think they are faking so many god damn shootings?
I was with you until this.
Does anything real ever happen? Anything?
>>691584047
Sure, that'd work great for say, a woman waiting to buy a gun to defend herself against her nutty ex while they go through all those background checks as slowly as possible. Oh wait, she's dead.
http://www.nj.com/camden/index.ssf/2015/06/nj_gun_association_calls_berlin_womans_death_an_ab.html
>>691584721
less fucked in the head, or less diagnosed?
medicine has also come a long ways since then.
>>691584298
Organized armies cannot handle the US, a bunch of pissed rednecks would be in graves dug by mortar shells faster than they can fuck one of their cousins if they tried to stand against the military.
>>691584351
Why even have citizens, just militarize the whole country.
>>691583088
>A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
Sounds a lot more like a sort of citizen army. Who is doing the regulating if not the government?
>implying the founding fathers were so retarded that they wouldn't think weapon technology would advance
>>691583620
That isn't necessarily a good thing. There's also something called evolution, which can be good, bad or both.
Like it or not, your form of government has become a rotten institution in which your politicians only serve those that supply them with funds. And I am not that naive to think one can completely abolish that. But you could at least try to temper it.
Ps I'm not the Britfag you replied to. Belgianfag here.
>>691582628
But then isn't it also time we stopped using 18th century laws to govern 21st century issues at all?
>>691585182
The phrase "well regulated" at that time simply meant "in proper working order", "well operating". In context, it simply means "well trained and well armed".
>>691585181
that monolithic thinking...
no.. cuz then everyone would be an extension of a bloated government...
i want some autonomy, tyvm.
>>691583439
lel mad cause ur money worth 10% less globally overnight lmao
>>691584966
Im all for guns but I honestly doubt that a gun would've helped her
>>691583478
>We keep the 2nd because it's a good idea
It's not a fucking good idea. When everyone in the world tells you something isn't a good idea and you still believe it is, you're retarded.
>>691582628
Worth taking a moment to think about? Absolutely. Will Americans think about it? Well, they've already shown time and again that they no can critical thinking good.
>>691583088
Modern weaponry including missiles, tanks, and fighter jets... All of which citizens can't own.
>>691582628
>2nd amendment allowed the best weapons of the current era to be owned by any and all
if the same thing applied today we'd all have .50 barret's with explosive ammunition
>>691582628
When our forefathers wrote the 1st Amendment, all forms of press were printed on paper, and freedom of speech was not anonymous and was mostly restricted to using churches and similar venues to speak.
Our forefathers never envisioned that there would be an internet, a place in which everyone can remain anonymous and post speech such as blogs on an electric medium.
It's amazing...
>>691584869
MAYBE IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE GUNS YOU WOULDN'T NEED TO DEFEND YOURSELF FROM PEOPLE WITH THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE
Fucking retard
>>691583395
>Thinking that US military members would actually follow the government if they tried to take control and hurt US citizens
>>691583395
>>691583574
You wont need to. The governments police and soldiers are people. If they get ordered to attack protestors for example, its game over for the government.
The turning point of most civil wars is when the military defects.
>>691582628
It's about relative firepower. It's why the founding fathers didnt limit people to bow and arrows while armies had muskets.
Indians were armed, and history shows what happens when an opposing force with more sophisticated arms means pushes you around.
>>691582628
two things...
1. gatling guns existed.
2. this week 3 dindus broke into my home and I was able to defend myself with my AR15. I managed to get one of them, they all ran but shot back, they had full auto weapons (I think it was a full auto glock which is illegal here).
I live in Puerto Rico where the most strict gun laws exist. Deaths by illegal guns are still out of control.
>>691582628
>Maybe it's time we stopped using 18th century laws to regulate 21st century IP use.
Good point OP, but shouldn't there be a question mark at the end?
>>691585483
>everyone in the world
you know not too long ago everyone in the world thought women shouldn't have rights you liberal cuck
>>691585181
>Organised armies can't handle the U.S.
>Lose wars to farmers in jungles and farmers in caves.
U so bada$$
>>691582628
you're a fucking retard
>>691585483
Most of the world still thinks the Holohoax happened, so there goes that argument
>>691583941
The only reason you accomplished that was because you went and sucked the frenchies cocks.
Hows that cock taste?
>>691584640
The US government already does that. "Muh gun" are not going to do a god damn thing if they decide you're on their shit list.
>>691584647
>why do you think they are faking so many god damn shootings
Stopped reading there. You went full retard.
>>691584893
You think your dinky little peashooter would stand a chance against the full force of the US armed forces? Missiles, mortars, drones, and god knows what else will not be stopped by anything an American is going to think will protect them.
>>691583439
We haven't needed to use our second amendment because the second amendment exists. Or is that too complex for you to understand?
>>691585669
This, highly motivated criminals won't compensate with their weaponry, why the fuck should you? Do you not value your fucking life? Especially in the U.S, firearm homicides are through the roof there, all the more reason to defend yourself.
>>691585774
Wow. Just wow.
>>691583574
So you're just going to completely pacify yourself from any external threat, then?
Be it thieves, rapists, predatory animals, varmints etc. guns are used for more than just assurance against the government, they're made widely available because much of this country is untamed(!) and west of the Mississippi, all of modern society has been here less than 200 years. People who live in cities and europeans can never get this through their heads. Our society is brand new compared to everyone else!
Guys, you don't have to pull out all your red pill shit to make a coherent argument against gun control, your autism is showing
>>691584289
I would say if all the energy and money poured into lobbying for gun rights was put into securing democratic rights and freedoms you would have more success if your real goal is to avoid oppression by evil governments. I wonder how many people who are worried about the government taking their guns care much about NSA spying.
>>691585181
In North Korea, you are army, or you are hungry.
>>691585774
So, are you also one of those people who believe that the earth is actually flat?
>You'll never take on the US government
T. i live under a fucking rock. If a civil war happens, the government is working at a fraction of its peak power, at a time when that power is needed more than ever. It's not bubba and his ar-15 against the government. It's the whole country becoming an absolute hellhole while arms flood into the country and into the hands of the hundreds of different groups fighting eachother and what remains of the government.
Honestly, 2 seconds of thought tells you why "hurr govment to powrful!" is bullshit. How many syrians do you think had mortars and tanks and ak's sitting in their garages before the war?
>>691582628
>1 round it a minute
they fired 3 or even four you fucking idiot.
I'm pro gun control but don't post this innacurate shit.
>>691585845
If you don't think the US government has anything to do with these shootings you're living under a rock.
And if you believe everything they tell you keep on drinking that kool aid with the rest of the sheeple you pleb
>>691582628
one thing to think about is that there isn't anything about guns in the 2nd amendment, just arms. also you can't fire 600+ rounds per minute with any weapon that's legal to own for a regular citizen.
>>691586049
>I wonder how many people who are worried about the government taking their guns care much about NSA spying.
Not enough.
>he fell for the guns are bad meme
One round a minute?. MY RIFLEMEN CAN FIRE 4 MR JOFFREY
>>691586128
oh wow i never really thought about it like that before you must be a genius
>You can't take on the U.S government with your AK hurr
You just fucking watch me, comrade.
>>691585848
Then why has Britain, without anything like the 2nd Amendment, never been in a situation where it desperately needed guns to overthrow its own government?
Because Americans are paranoid.
Check fuckin m8 m8
>>691585635
That will never happen.
>>691582628
Incorrect. There were semi autos 12 years before the Declaration of Independence was signed.
>>691586280
What model are you referring to? The Girandoni air rifle? The Puckle Gun? Something else?
>>691582628
I have given it thought and yes, we should update the second amendment to allow for the possession of more modern military weapons.
>>691585885
Didn't you hear?
-Holocaust never happened
-Bush did 9/11
-Government killed Freddy Mercury
>>691585181
>tried to stand against the military
Assuming the military would be on the corrupt governments side. 100% chance they wouldn't follow orders to attack US citizens
When they wrote the right of freedom of press, information had to be passed by word of mouth, by letter, by newspaper, or across the Atlantic which took weeks. They never thought there'd be radio, internet, iphones, or facebook. Maybe it's time we stopped using 18th century laws to regulate 21st century information technology.
>>691584936
Underrated post
>>691585617
I know troll
but that's how you lose a war
you don't have guns, and somebody else does
>>691585466
You have no idea how many times guns are used in self defense then. The FBI puts the number of assaults against women stopped by her pulling a gun at over 200,000 per year. The CDC did a study on the direct order of Obama after Sandy Hook that found guns were used by citizens to stop a crime in progress 500,000 to 3 million times per year. Every year.
>>691586049
"muh gun lobbies" is just leftist whining. Despite what they like to claim, they don't represent the people. We still have gun rights because there would be a shitstorn if they put gun control in place to quickly.
>You don't need an AR-15 assault rifle to defend yourself if you get robbed, just get a pistol.
Maybe, since you have an advantage by knowing your house, but why take a chance?
>>691586253
Your country is shit m8
>Check fucking m8 m8
Perhaps the 2nd Amendment shouldn't be revoked but revised to regulate the availability of weaponry to the public. The whole reason there's debate about it is because they get in the hands of murderers and mass shooters. One thought being the sale of rubber bullets.
>>691585573
Try again
Modern weapons are more powerful than that.
>>691585483
It's up for debate as to whether it's a good amendment, but it shouldn't be up for debate as to if we should keep it.
Play it out in your head, a gun ban, what happens?
No more mass shootings, good.
Crime spikes because criminals have nothing to fear and there are 300 million black market guns, pretty fucking bad.
People can't defend themselves from these armed criminals, bad.
Any ratification to the second Amendment gets you dangerously close to the first amendment, which is awful. Who is to say that our first amendment right can't then be modified? That people shouldn't have the right to use language that hurts and harms and is offensive or without merit?
There's an extremely simple reason why people in every other country thinks we should ban guns, and that's because they don't have them in the first place, so it's not a big deal to ban them. It's also not built into any constitution as rock steadily as ours, which further complicates things.
Honestly I would prefer no guns in America, but that's not an option. The black market is simply too huge, dense, and easy to buy from. When you attempt to ban guns because of mass shootings you are putting the lives of 300 million Americans at constant increased risk of having crime committed against them just because you feel sad that people died. It's an emotional response and frankly, an ignorant point of view.
>>691586442
Paranoid as fuck!
Lmao.
For such a strong nation, you really are fucking pussies, you know that?
The most frightening concern to the ruling class of elites, the oligarchy, is when millions of poor people have guns.
>>691585718
Actually not a bad point. But in this case, I don't think it's a good comparison. America is not ahead of the curve, leading the way until the rest of the world catches up and realises it's right if everyone has a gun. This gun thing is clinging to the past.
>>691586463
fuck that stupid bullshit, nobody needs a ferrari either, you can still buy them
>>691585845
Other than our nuclear arsenal, reserves, and parts of our navy, america's active armed forces are stationed thousands of miles away from the American citizenry.
All semantics aside, the American populace could easily raise the largest armed militia the world's ever seen
>>691585251
/thread
>>691585861
Puerto Rico is the prime example that strict gun laws do not work. Every month there is a story about crooked cops, corrupt military, or roberies to the police armory.
Good guys like me have to:
1. Get a lawyer and 3 witnesses to testify that I am not violent.
2. Pay around $300 of paperwork and gun club membership.
3. Certificate of good citizenship.
4. Invasive Background check (120 days)
then If I pass I get my license (WHICH IS ONLY VALID FOR HOME DEFENSE, I CANNOT CONCEAL CARRY) but i still dont have a gun.. Gun prices here are THROUGH THE ROOF. and you only get semi auto weapons. Criminals ALWAYS have full auto weapons.
Oh,
>>691585566
Right, because the government builds robots to pilot all those tanks. Oh wait, it's a bunch of guys who were born a raised in the towns the government is going to tell them to attack. Yup, that's going to work out well.
TLDR; the military is us, stupid.
>>691586253
Oh and how is brexit going m8?
>>691586410
>government killed Freddy Mercury
Kek
I own a few guns. I keep one in my car, I keep a few more around the house. I do this because even though I've never been robbed and no one I know has ever been robbed, I'd like to have a weapon that will drastically improve my and my family's chances of survival if such an encounter ever happens. Same concept as a seat belt. I also own an AR15 because I think they are fucking cool. They are almost like a hobby in themselves with how customizable they are. Don't like it? Suck my dick basically.
>>691586529
No, it's great
We are no longer Eurocucks
Now we are better than your shithole of a country in every way
Americans disgust me
No but really Britbong here. If they want their guns let them. We all know a massive proportion of gun related deaths are suicides anyway. And a massive proportion of gun deaths that aren't suicide are by niggers with illegal firearms.
>The second ammendment was not written for hunting purposes
>It wasn't even written for the protection of home invaders, although thats debatable
>It was written to give citizens a check on the government, should they become a tyranical force trying to strip citizens of their rights
When the second amendment was written, the colonies had just got done overthrowing their own government that tried to strip them of their gun privileges so they can have total control. Yeah, you can say that the government has technology like drones and planes that could easily wipe out a rebellion, but the revolutionary war was proof that if a big enough crowd bands together, they can take down a force that has more resources. The British had the largest navy at the time, so what did the rebels do? They banded together and formed their own navy and their own army. If anything that sounds like an argument why citizens SHOULDN'T have firearm restrictions, so we can give an equal fight.
Besides, why should I trust the government to be all powerful? Why would I for one second believe that the government is looking out for my best interests, and will continue to do so if everyone is stripped of their one right that gives me power, our guns? History has proven countless times that when the government has total control, they misuse it and it turns into chaos. The founding fathers knew this, and thats why the phrase "shall not be infringed" is only found in our second amendment in our bill of rights. Not "may not be infringed under circumstances". Not "Will not be infringed unless a few people out of a majority misuse that power".
>>691586538
>No more mass shootings
Oh, so if guns weren't freely available Eric and Dylan wouldn't have shot up Columbine? Or Lanza wouldn't have shot up Sandy Hook? If you think the law would have stopped them buying guns, you're mistaken.
>the law doesn't stop shootings from happening, it cuts down on the availability of weapons, the deep web is a thing now, you can get a gun imported from Yurop for like 7k
You who think the 2nd amendment is has to do with firearms is untrue, it's the right to arms. Not firearms, all Arms
>>691586190
But, but. Swiss citizens are forced to be soldiers!
>>691586728
LOL I sense the jealousy through the text. You brit fags are timid and very well controlled people. Your government says jump and you jump.
I'm sure this thread is full of
>hurr durr in australialand or my eurocuck shit country we banned guns and it stopped mass shootings.
Good for you. This isn't your irrelevant little country. We have a different set of social, economic, and cultural conditions. A gun ban here would basically turn every city and town into a burning wreck as niggers would go on a looting rampage.
Gun control has made the UK the worst country in the EU (well, formerly) in terms of violent crime per capita. The stats tell the story
>>691585617
Are you seriously implying that all guns that are used for crime are legally obtained? You seriously think a Fucking gang member just waltzed his way into a gun store, and bought a gun ? You TRULY think that people will stop killing with guns if they become criminalized? Let me tell you something. Just because drugs are illegal, people don't stop doing them or selling them. You are the Fucking retard , man.
>>691586849
I agree actually, but I was trying to look at it from the other side's perspective.
>>691586415
100%?
I'd bet our government would have 8% of it's military left if it fought against it's citizens. Which, for the record, is plenty of people to blow up the Resistance's base/camp/whatever.
Should the crazies be right, and U.S. government is pushing for enacting Marshall law in the US, I promise you we'd lose.
>>691586728
>Says our country is shit
>Literally depends on us for trade since they are no longer in the EU trade zone
Nice meme
>>691582628
The principle is the same.
In the 18th century it took a printing press to make pamphlets that you had to pass out by hand. Now you can make a website that is seen by millions, as well as broadcast TV and radio. So rethink the 1st amendment?
Technology changes, but human nature doesn't change. That's why the principles behind the constitution are still relevant even if they are 250 years old.
>>691586865
Well that... still encompasses firearms... I'm failing to see the point in this post, if there even is one.
>>691586392
No need. It doesn't specify any kind of weapon on purpose.
>>691586971
O shit I see now, I'm too quick to argue.
>>691583395
>thinking "fuck it, why bother?" is an acceptable response
>>691582628
Military weapons are banned, everywhere, for civilian use.
>>691586989
What the fuck do you think the other 92% of the military would be doing? Are you actually retarded?
>>691587108
Depend on what you mean. In many US states, after paying a lot of money, you can get automatic firearms, and even destructive devices like grenades. AFAIK, it's expensive and annoying as fuck.
>>691586684
ABSOLUTELY FUCKING FANTASTIC
The pound is already stabilising and recovering, you nigger. Not to mention how the Bank of England has pledged £250 billion to ensure the stability of our economy whilst we regain our independence.
Next we'll kick out all the niggers. Bet you wish your country would have the balls to do that, eh, Americucks?
>>691587088
>we're all gonna die, might as well die making stupid decisions
>>691586590
because the rest of the world is that great, and free
the framers were not ambiguous about the 2nd ammendment, it's purpose was to create a non professional national guard:
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed29.asp
>>691583668
Yes !!!
ITT
Eurofags who shit post all day long about how lousy the US and its military are, are shitposting about how 150 million armed citizens cant put up a fight against them. Idiots.
>>691587028
firearms, is like one small as part of 4chan. The right to bear a firearm is like a single section on 4chan dedicated to just one topic. On the other hand the right to have arms, would encompass all of 4chan that is or will ever be
>>691586989
Even with 8% of the military behind it they'd stand no chance. Drones wouldn't have pilots and if they did we'd have AA missiles. There would be casualties I don't doubt that at all, but the people of the country would win.
Anybody know where I can get a 240B? I want to got shootin n lootin because im an ignorant redneck hurr durr
Sure, the U.S army might have more of a military edge when it comes to suppressing a revolution or whatever, but let's not forget that the U.S army couldn't crush a piss poor communist Asian nation, I'd say 90 million armed people overthrowing the U.S government wouldn't be TOO hard.
>>691587239
Imagine being this retarded
>pretending to "care" about stopping violence through gun control when all you really care about is seeing your political team win the argument because it makes you feel validated.
>>691587272
They weren't ambiguous about limiting the power of the federal government either, but you see how that's been shit on.
>>691587379
>stopping violence through gun control
please explain to me how you expect that to be logistically possible. Are you going to send in the army to capture all civilian guns?
>>691587219
Some are banned no matter what you do. The "top end" stuff you speak of if not only cost prohibitive (as you mentioned) but you need a lot of credibility. Which is why I didn't count them.
>>691586642
Isn't that more of a sign that Puerto Rico (or its citizens) should do more to combat the real cause this rampant violence and crime? I.e. corruption and shit. It sounds like legal gun control is the least of your worries.
It's pretty easy.
Don't ban guns, ban niggers.
>>691587239
>Next we'll kick out all the niggers. Bet you wish your country would have the balls to do that, eh, Americucks?
Trump could win.
>>691586415
Plus there's the strategic disadvantage of having 2 million service members in the entire us armed forces vs. 90 million gun owners
>>691587342
Especially when you consider that the people running the military in the case of a revolution are the same people who lost all those wars with their tactics.
>>691586963
Sure, most drugs are less available than thy would be if they were all legal, but if I really wanted my heroin fix, I would get my heroin fix, one way or another. Legality doesn't mean shit when I want my heroin fix.
>>691582628
>1 per minute
The Prussian infantry could fire up to five.
>>691587239
What planet are you on?
The U.K. Has no workable government as of Monday morning.
I thought britexit was a protest against the banking system but your now handing over the power of the U.K. To the Bank of England and youve valued its sale at 250 billion.
300 billion was wiped of the U.K. Ftse by the end of Friday. Where's the 50 billion black hole?
You britexiters are all fucking morons.
Free Scotland now
>>691586922
IT'S CALLED A DEMOCRATIC MANDATE YOU FUCKTARD
We obey to the government in return for them holding regular elections, accepting the sovereignty of Parliament, and providing civil benefits such as FREE HEALTHCARE
Democracy 101 m8
This is why your government sucks. It is SOOOOO inefficient. Did you know the British annual budget is often passed within DAYS of election?
>>691587239
>The pound is stabilizing
Who told you this?
>>691582628
The supreme court never took any time at all to consider this "argument" because its stupid as fuck.
Worth taking a moment to think about.
>>691582628
weak bait
when the 2nd ammendment was written a musket was the "assault weapon" of the day.
you're never going to win a fight against tyranny if your illequipped
Simple.
Don't ban guns, ban niggers!
>>691587569
Yeah seriously. What kind of low-skill bumpkin can only get off one musket round per minute?
Whoever made that pic in OPs post is a fucking casual.
>>691582628
Dynamatie and rifles were also available to all without any registration/ serial number/background check.
I honestly hope you don't want to go back to those days...
>>691586667
not to mention these things are kept at bases that are now surrounded from all sides
>>691587468
stopping violence with gun control is like stopping terrorism by expanding your military oversees
>>691584893
>Implying that if things got so bad to the point of armed rebellion a large chuck of the military wouldn't be with the rebels.
The military is made up of people, not mindless robots. Many would be rebelling too along with their friends and family. The "cant fight a plane/tank/whatever with a Rifle" people never seem to want to acknowledge that for all its equipment, the military is still just made up of the people.
>>691587584
>Not having a government by the people, for the people
Wew. Even the way you speak sounds like you're under tyrannical rule.
>>691587239
Good god it sure feels like summer in here
>>691582628
Under these circumstances you have no right to publish unless its on ink and paper. PS you have no rights to speak on the web.
>>691582628
Maybe you (and the rest of the world) show take a second and consider the moral implications of using coercion to force people into doing what YOU want them to do. You fucking people make me sick.
>>691584893
Ah, the traditional American right-wing cognitive dissonance. Stepping on the flag is disrespectful to soldiers but stockpiling weapons to slaughter them with is A-okay. Disobeying the authorities (like police) is disrespectful and wrong, but it's okay to revolt and overthrow them. So weird to me.
>>691582628
Name a recent mass shooting that occurred with a rifle that was fired that quickly.
>>691587725
If it takes you a full minute to throw some powder down a barrel and drop a ball after it you're a fucking downy fag
>>691585483
Tell it to Galileo, fag
>>691586989
You realize the government can't use all of its strength to fight a resistance right? You know what the best time is to fuck with another country? When they're dicking around with themselves. With 92% of the military going against 8% and the government having to make sure they don't completely fuck themselves over while fighting a resistance, what do you think would happen retard?
>>691587379
>This
stupid libcucks like to try and pull heartstrings and say "hurr durr what about all those people who died in *insert mass shooting*?"
None of you give a fuck about them so stop trying to play the moral game on your high horse. I'm willing to bet good money that all the faggots in orlando would have loved to have a gun or have someone with a gun in that club to take out that shooter
>Who, btw, was a registered democrat
>>691586963
>Britain has gun control
>Criminals barely ever get hold of guns
SUCCESSFUL GUN CONTROL IN ACTION
>>691583439
A britfag tryin to tell us how to live, a nation of cuckold faggots that allows sharia courts to exist parallel to real courts, yeah I'll bite.
>>691586538
>It's an emotional response
The only reason to disagree with killing people is emotion. There is no 100% objective reason not to let people die. So the criticism implied here is invalid.
>and frankly, an ignorant point of view.
i.e. I don't see it your way
>Crime spikes because criminals have nothing to fear and there are 300 million black market guns, pretty fucking bad.
There may be some temporary increase, but for many criminals, carrying a gun would not be worth it. Increase the risk of using a gun by punishing armed criminals more harshly and simultaneously reduce the reasons for carrying a gun by making it less likely you're going to get shot at while stealing a TV. For most criminals it's not worth bothering with a gun unless everyone is waiting to shoot you. After a bit of time the cost of black market guns will increase a lot as risks get higher and old ones are taken out of circulation.
And it's not like it needs to be done overnight. The NRA consistently opposes any minor reduction in gun rights. If the reasoning was as you say, one option might be to slowly reduce gun ownership (as clearly the current system is not working) but people get so paranoid about that.
>Any ratification to the second Amendment gets you dangerously close to the first amendment, which is awful.
wat?
>Who is to say that our first amendment right can't then be modified?
No one. It can be. The amendments exist because the constitution can be amended, right? Let's hope it's not modified, but I'd also hope people realise the difference in importance between freedom of expression and freedom to own guns.
>>691587584
>Free healthcare
You are paying for it through tax, so therefore it's not free
Imho representative democracy = oligarchy, but I don't think it's too hard to understand that the side with all the guns makes all the decisions, it's a fantastic way to protect against tyranny. Tyranny happens, and it's good to have a third option when the gubermint comes knocking saying join or die.
>>691587538
>90 million gun owners
More than that now. Every time obumma has opened his fat mouth for the past 8 years people have bought more guns. I saw a story that a single gun store has sold over 30,000 AR-15s since the Orlando club attack.
>>691587725
Really? Cause the National Guard armouries here don't look any different than they have been all these years. Tanks are round back where they always are.
>>691587892
You didn't have them in the first place. Please think before you post.
>>691587584
Good god, do you even hear yourself speaking? You sound like a good bunch of sheeple!
Dear OP,
Thank you for posting that image.
First thing-
A trained rifleman can fire a flintlock up to 3-4 times, PER MINUTE.
Not merely once.
That aside.
History son.
History.
The Founding Fathers of the U.S. of A., had recently fought against unrepresentative govt., and kicked England's butt, achieving the new country that I for one am still proud to call my own.
They knew the dangers of an UN-armed citizenry, vs a govt. with arms. They knew what could happen, has happened, and if history is any indication, will happen, again. (that's a lotta damned commas, isn't it?)
Next lesson from history: the human conditions, and violence/war.
It's still happening. In all the many years since the Constitution and then the Bill of Rights were constructed, people are still killing people.
What a surprise, right?
Lastly, in comparing a flintlock to a modern rifle.
Ever hear of this thing called the 'Arms Race'? And no, I don't mean just nuclear weaponry.
From picking up a rock to bash-in the head of someone you don't like, to sharpening a stick and stabbing someone you don't like, the history of arms development has chugged steadily along.
Bottom line-
No laws, ever, prevented someone determined to commit a crime, from COMMITTING A CRIME.
I realize this is a hard life lesson that you (I'm addressing the OP, but also any sheeple bleating loudly against the 2nd Amendment), just don't want to accept.
But it's the truth.
The govt. is not here to save your ass, if someone is out to kill you. The Police aren't here to save your ass if someone is out to kill you. The prisons are not here, to save your ass, if someone is out to kill you.
You are the single best (or worst?), line of defense against someone set out to kill you.
You.
So, you choose to not be armed? That's on you.
I choose to be armed.
That's the difference between pro 2nd Amendment people, and the sheeple.
>>691587946
Having free healthcare and relatively available guns is friggin goood
Move to NZ already cucklords
>>691587760
That's a common misconception, the constitution is a restatement of rights you are endowed by a power higher than man. Even if it was ripped up, you would not lose the rights, if that was the case it isn't rights, those are priveleges
>>691587721
Dynamite wasn't invented yet.
I might be ok with no serial numbers on firearms. High explosives are a bit more dangerous, and I'm ok requiring chemical tagging to identify the manufacturer and seller.
>>691584331
britbongs trying to school americans on anything while their country let muslims invade peacefully
>>691582628
Niggers don't know about the puckle gun.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puckle_gun
60 years before our independence led by military geniuses who definitely saw tech progressing this way.
>>691587492
True. But the people on top are corrupted as fuck.
And, legal gun control just hinders the good people. There should be more efforts to combat illegal weapons, but there isnt.
A few years back there was a case of a home invasion, the criminals shot the home owner, and started raping his wife. Home owner managed to pull his weapon out and hit the criminal. The criminal survived, but is forever in a wheelchair. Dindus have money cause of welfare and shit, got a great lawyer and sued the home owner. Long story short, to this day the home owner is responsible of paying for the health care of the criminal that shot him and raped his wife...
Justice didn't do anything despite the fact that the weapon the criminal used had its serial scratched off and was stolen from the police armory months prior.
I wouldnt want any country in the world to suffer shit like this.
>>691587856
The leftists would shit themselves and surrender in a matter of days, if not hours. Then whatever foreign power that thought it was a good time to make their move would get their shit kicked in immediately. You really think you're the only one smart enough to think of that? We've been planning this shit out for decades.
>>691587946
No point trying to reason with these English cunts at the moment bro.
They've went all nationalistic this week.
The pound is fucked and no one has a clue what to do
>>691588057
its not FREE if you PAY for it with TAXES
>>691587817
Are you willingly ignorant or autistic? Because you compared following a widely agreed upon law to overthrowing a tyrannical government hated by the majority of the people.
>>691587934
>There may be some temporary increase
You're incapable of thought. It would be disastrous. Please don't reply to me or my gun ever again.
>>691582628
better to be regulated by 18th century laws than your average cucks virtuesignaling
>>691585617
You think if the government bans something it magically disappears? It worked great with drugs, which is why drugs no longer exists. And worked when we banned alcohol, away it went, and led to a better society.
Oh wait, actually banning alcohol resulted in huge spikes of violent crime, government corruption, and made society worse.
Try to get above 2nd grade thinking. The results of government action are never black and white.
>>691587817
The flag doesn't only represent the military you autistic retard. And its not hypocritical to respect the military if they aren't shooting at their own people, but at the same time willing to protect your rights should they turn against their oath and take up arms against citizens
good god, how are people this retarded
>>691588162
"I'll give you a free car if you give me $500 a month"
"Wow guys I got a free car lolz"
Fucking stupid eurofags
>>691588180
The other anon has a right. Banning burning et al of the flag goes against the values that this country was founded on - namely freedom from government control, tyranny, and censorship.
>>691587817
what a classic liberal strawman. putting words in my mouth to insult my position rather than actually addressing the issue because you don't have a coherent argument to present.
I don't give a fuck what people do with the flag, I'm against all the imperialistic shit the military does in the middle east. Don't invent a position for me just so you can insult the type of person you want me to be
>>691588162
Jesus Christ give it a rest
At least I'm not paying for U.S brand imperialism.
>>691583574
you act like if a major revolution did happen large parts of the military and govt would not side with the revolutionaries they're also american citizens.
>>691583987
this exactly
>>691588311
Yes you are but whatever helps you sleep at night anon
>>691587817
Stepping on a flag is my right to freedom of expression, I don't give a fuck.
It's fun to piss off the cops, they're not here to protect me anyway.
Your fucking point, mister?
>>691586420
Providing a picture for this anon's post
Seriously, the entire concept of rights is that they are self-apparent, given and eternal.
>>691585786
Kek
Americans always forget that they would have never won without the help of the french
>>691583150
OP won't answer this lol
Underrated post
>>691588154
I feel like you've misunderstood my post
>>691587627
His government hahaha
>>691588293
Who said anything about banning flag burning?
>>691587573
>no workable government as of Monday morning
Idiot. Cameron stays on till October.
>00 billion was wiped of the U.K. Ftse by the end of Friday. Where's the 50 billion black hole?
See picture for triviality of this economic dip
>Free Scotland now
Yes, I agree, get those fucking Scots away from us. As if we would want them. They are a drain on our economy.
What a stupid argument .... the founding fathers wrote freedom of speech when pen and paper were the only means of long distance communication ... maybe we should re-write that amendment as well?
>>691583574
This. There IS NO protection from British empire. I don't care how many heavy-duty weapons you might have.
If they want you, they ARE going to get you.
This fantasy of being able to protect yourself from the British is just that:
A FANTASY.
>>691588149
this guy here
I normaly hate Vice News, but this is the shit that goes on here https://youtu.be/47gxjk6U5CQ
DESPITE THE FACT that the U.S Court ruled that our gun laws are UNCONSTITUTIONAL, Puerto Rico still continues to have the same laws.
I do not want the mainland to be like a PR or a California.
>>691582628
If that's the case then the first amendment only applies to wooden printing presses, not the internet. Time for you to shut the fuck up.
>>691587946
Not free but a lot less costly if you get something serious.
I am someone who believes inequality is natural and necessary but I do think it's inhumane to have people's lives fucked over due to something that's out of their own hands (health is, for the most part).
Poor people clean up shit rich people don't want to clean up. So they need them. And it's a small price to pay to keep them alive and still able to invest in the economy by being able to buy food and clothes without being crippled by debt.
>>691588311
One, checked.
Two, I'm not. I'm a kiwi chrissakes
>>691588825
Replied to wrong post shit I should go to bed
>>691588189
No point discussing it if your brain is in ROM mode.
>>691588521
We know our enemies are plotting to attack us if we seem busy with internal chaos. It's obvious, they've said so. Why do you think the muslime brotherhood is so far up the ass of DC and organizations like CAIR are sowing as much chaos as they can? They're trying to push us over the edge into a revolution so they can launch their attack. We're waiting for them to do that so we can slaughter the fuckers. Get it?
>>691587977
yes.... and and their surrounded by people that can probably figure them out so and as for missile you can't fight a war with thoughs alone
>>691586554
What
Have you seen Zulu? Spears and hide shields don't work well against pistols and rifles.
That's not paranoia, that's healthy firepower against foreign forces.
Again, troll, but you're not doing a good job of it
>>691588596
You do know dipshit there is also a ftse 250 that is business more based in the uk.
That who lost you the billions you fucking retard. Look at all the facts you fucking English tool and stop cherry picking what suits your argument. That's what's got yous in the mess in the first place.
Watch the news right now. Westminster has no workable government and now no opposition since now labour is splitting also.
Yous are so fucked
>>691588773
I say dismantle the unnatural hierarchies and let the natural ones take care of themselves, what do you reckon?
>>691588656
>Went to war twice with britbongs
>Won 2 wars against them, despite them being one of the most powerful empires in the world at the time
Keep living in YOUR fantasy.
>>691588898
I couldn't possibly be more diametrically opposed and confident of my opinion so I gave you a silly answer. Take from that what you will.
>>691585575
Stop making valid points
>>691582628
They also said it was worded very specifically not to refer to any one type of weapon, and it would be perfectly legal for someone to own a canon.
>>691588712
You know we have a refugee fetish at the moment, right? We'll take you over another pack of unwashed 7th century goat fuckers.
>>691587946
Idiot!
America pays more tax than the UK! A simple google search tells you that!
Corporate tax:
>America
>35%
>Britain
20%
Individual max tax:
>America
>53.9%
>Britain
>40%
Get fukd m8
>>691589082
read the replied to post retard, he was talking sarcastically/ironically
>>691586075
Jews are compulsive liars. Their entire identity is built on a lie. They are evil.
>>691582628
Shh OP. American gun nuts don't like simple logic interning with dur freedom!
>>691587342
>U.S army couldn't crush a piss poor communist Asian nation
They had help. Just like the Afghans against the soviets.
>>691587239
Not only is that NOT true, you've lost over 500 billions pounds in assets, and cost the WORLD 2 trillion in stocks.
How's it feel knowing that every country wants you dead? We might take your land back, we separated, might be time we took our homeland back from you yellow-toothed limeys.
>>691582628
Don't forget we're talking about a well regulated militia.
>>691589189
Seriously. That shit trolling is not cool.
>>691589127
the top federal tax rate in the us is 39%, with people under 90K paying 25%
https://www.irs.com/articles/2015-federal-tax-rates-personal-exemptions-and-standard-deductions
>>691582628
Todays rifles still need to be manually reloaded and don't have 600 round magazines. Also even if they can cycle that fast anything that punches out rounds continuously will overheat and jam before it gets to 600
>>691587978
You're admitting that we have it better than you then.
I knew Britain was a million times better than USA, thanks for confirming,
>>691589016
Dude, get it through your head. Our soldiers are our fathers, sons, brothers, cousins, etc. The military is literally us. Our families. We don't have to fight them. They will turn on anyone who orders them against us and use the weapons they have. Cannons, tanks, missiles, planes, ships, what the fuck ever.
Why is that so hard to understand? Fuck.
>>691589189
Give it a rest cletus, we already know you couldn't make a coherent argument without one of your fucking redpill images.
>>691588113
That chink woman has to be severely retarded if she chinks her AR-15 would have stopped this.
Btw, it isn't governments that hurt people. It's the people that follow those governments. Hitler and Stalin didn't kill anyone personally.
>>691589259
"Militia" means "entire population". "Well regulated" historically meant "in proper working order", which in context means "well armed and well trained" - that phrase has nothing to do with government oversight and control.
>>691585251
muskets and flint pistols were considered assault weapons. I cant believe that people actually think that the founding fathers were that stupid
>>691582628
When the Amendment was written the US didn't have a standing army, only a militia, so it made sense to have an armed population.
In fact, the US didn't have a real standing army until WWI.
The only way to fix the problem is obviously by using the US Army.
If you think guns are old ideals and schools of thought from centuries ago, keep in mind the way you travel and purchase things hasn't chnanged since ceaser. Remember all roads in the empire lead to rome and operate on a level playing field. How else could japan or turkey expect to be paid if everyone was on a different system of business
>>691589318
I didn't disagree that we have a problem and you don't.
>>691589127
Wrong
>>691588149
I understand that. That's why included "or its citizens." Beating corruption is a very long road and I hope you people will someday succeed.
As a counterexample: I live in Belgium. Guns are also very hard to get a hold of legally and very restricted. We have similar crimes happening here as well but not as frequently. But our justice system is so protective and 'humane' we come across the same backwards cases as the one you posted.
But don't be fooled: that's a problem with justice and sentencing laws. Has nothing to do with legal control. The owner having a more destructive gun would only have worsened his own fate.
>>691583395
They can take our lives, but they can never take our freedom.
>>691589259
Read it again. Now substitute apple pie.
"A quality apple, being necessary to a good apple pie, the right of the people to grow apples shall not be infringed"
In no way does it state that the right to bear arms is only for militia members, nor does it even imply this.
Sorry anon, supreme court decided this decades ago
>>691589329
I don't know, I would work for the government against revolutionaries. As long as I get to work behind some sort of missile or drone.
How else would we arm the proles and seize the means of production, comrade?
>>691589452
Stop posting now.
>>691584185
I would love to see documentation of these Republican-proposed bills you're talking about, because I sure haven't heard about them.
Kill yourself and your shit bait
>>691589608
The US supreme court renders opinions, and they change their mind all the time, also not most powerful court in america
>>691583088
Takes a super paraniod retard to think they need firearms to protect themselves from their own government..
>>691589608
>Growing apples is now only legal for the government
>Anyone caught with an orchard is now charged with a federal offense
>>691589719
So what? Doesn't change the facts I presented.
"but it says militia only hurr durr"
Nope
>>691589670
nah tell me, you weren't even smart enough to figure out that you pay for things the same way in every country. Mcdonalds isn't different in receiving goods and service in any country. You buy a burger the same way in every country
>>691586290
>>691582628
>when the Founding Fathers wrote the 1st amendment, people could only use a printing press or town crier to communicate.
>Today's communication includes the internet
>Maybe it's time we stopped using 18th century laws to regulate 21st century communication
>>691589786
I guess our founding fathers were all paranoid retards.
Thanks, person on the internet.
>>691589816
For our safety. Like in europe. Its what we need to stop crime
>>691587946
It's free in that anyone can have it. You don't have to worry if you're covered, you don't have to fill in bullshit forms every time to visit a doctor. You don't have some insurance cunt haggling over whether or not you really need the treatment - fucking doctors decide that. You just go and get healthcare when you need it.
>>691589831
facts don't change. they don't make decisions on law, they don't write it, or rewrite it
>>691589670
I agree with you
>>691589915
>I guess our founding fathers were all paranoid retards.
Yes. You would think that.
Maybe people should also stop saying that we were founded by immigrants to justify letting in subhuman scum as well.
>>691589072
No. Because you will have the exact same problem as I described: weak people are left unprotected and will eventually be exploited. And the strong people will take control.
I admit, I am somewhere in between. But without regulation there are far less in-betweens and that is a world I don't want to live in.
>>691582628
>>691587493
/thread
>>691589786
Please be bait
Tyranny happens, it'll be a hell of a lot more appealing for the govt to launch a police state with an unarmed populace.
Even if guns are 'banned' an armed insurgency would probably end up on top anyway.
>>691590001
Thanks internet guy
>>691590006
Or maybe you can take your anti-scientific anti-humanist racism back several hundred years where it belongs.
>>691589955
>Supreme court
>they don't make decisions on law
1/10, you're literally retarded
>>691589329
>They will turn on anyone who orders them against us and use the weapons they have. Cannons, tanks, missiles, planes, ships, what the fuck ever.
lol no.
>>691583088
This, also the argument that it is written to maintain an armed and regulated militia, the police does NOT count as it is a government entity, whether federal, state, or local.
The problem is the people with guns. Stupid people don't lock up guns and then their kids shoot them. Crazy people in a fit of rage, kill their friends or family. Psycho people go on murderous rampages. Maybe America has some sort of mental health issue. America is also much more diverse than other nations. We have a lot of racial, ethnic, sex/gender, religious, and generational tension. You don't go to Switzerland and find a bunch of black doing niggerish things. It is important to have an armed society because the feds have so much power now. They can send one jet (martial law) to level an entire city. I am totally against restricting firearms but am totally for restricting who can obtain firearms (although people will attain illegally, eg. felons, watch-listers, offenders of violent crimes or high-risk crimes, etc.).
Also, guns are like cars. Like, not the same so inb4 I need a car to get to work but will never need a gun. There is no reason to have a car that goes above 85mph yet they do. There is no reason to need more than 2 cars, maybe one as a main an one as a backup or others for special purpose e.g. truck, van, bike. People commit dangerous and endangering acts every day and die at the hands of the reckless or themselves yet they still get licenses and can drive and cars aren't regulated for speed, quantity, or power.
>>691582628
Does anyone think the people who wrote the second amendment would consider it a success if they looked at the US today?
>>691590096
>racist
Which race did I call subhuman scum exactly?
>>691590121
all they do is render opinions, any educated person knows legislatures make law
>>691590232
SHALL
>>691589329
>They will turn on anyone who orders them against us
>Government: a terrorist sect in the US has started attacking citizens and is held up 5 clicks form your LZ. Go kill them all, leave no prisoners.
>Soldiers: Sir, yes, sir.
>>691585774
Retard
>>691589627
We also have a large percentage of police departments sworn to revolt with us if the governments try this. Very large.
>>691590139
Yeah, my cousins are going to open fire on me. This is why you will be stupid enough to actually try it, and you will lose.
>>691590187
Does it matter?
>>691590205
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precedent
It's called "case law" for a reason. Court decisions are /law/. They are case law. We live in a precedent system. That's how it works.
>>691589127
Do you even VAT??
20% in UK. No VAT in US m8
>>691583545
Figures it's misinforming. Plus they chose a modern weapons platform that is irrelevant. It is a rendered image of a light machine gun use by military forces and definitely not available for civilian use.
Plus, why not rewrite the whole constitution? 18th century laws for a 21st century society? I am beyond triggered. I shouldn't say triggered as that might trigger someone.
>>691590047
Can you give me some examples of machine guns in the 1770's?
>>691587743
But people fought and murdered for the Nazis too.
Your argument is invalid.
>>691590304
case law isn't law that is made, it is an opinion rendered on the circumstances of the case, it's just an opinion on the facts of the case law for that instance
>>691590304
Courts can define existing law. They cannot write new law.
>>691582628
Time to revise all those other 18 century laws as well. Goodbye freedom of speech.
Dumbass
>>691590451
They do write new law. Every decision that is made, especially at the higher courts, is binding on future courts. That's what "law" is. Law is that which binds a court's future decision, and decisions in a precedent system like our own bind the future decisions of courts. It's case law. It's law.
>>691589547
Death is the only true freedom.
ITT: Niggers, rednecks and retarded murricans thinking that weapons are solution for everything. Everybody can live without a weapon (or has a license for it) but murricans. Fucking retards
>>691590451
The US needs that many jurists because they always have to check if a case like this has been before.
Court decisions basically set law
>>691590397
Sorry. What's your point? I don't get it. I was just pointing out a factual inaccuracy. The Girandoni air rifle has a much faster rate of fire than 1 shot per minute. It's hard for me to find sources, but it's probably around 10 shots per minute.
>>691590259
NOT!
>>691590602
Why are you still alive?
Threadly reminder that anarchy is the way toward a better U.S.A
>>691586290
Love it. I bet those two who tried driving through the store are the same people who fight for more gun control. I bet they'd love it if it they can walk into a store and rob the place knowing that everyone else is being a good little citizen and not carrying a gun while they have total control to do whatever they want.
>>691590451
close, they try to make sense of what they think of whatever the issue is, so you are on the right track but they don't define it, they interrupt
>>691590080
Australia banned guns, introduced more rigorous protocols for owning and concealed carry.. guess what.. no police state, same with every other country that has banned weapons
America.. the most paranoid, backward shitstain in the world..
>>691590537
The internet is a game changer. This is just the first source I found but I saw the story elsewhere. Dude called some girl out on FB about her tinder profile since she had slutty lyrics and went on a rant about how women are nothing but man pleasers etc. and is facing 3 years for harassment even though the bitch could've just clicked BLOCK, reported, or deleted the thread/comments.
http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/06/man-faces-3-years-in-jail-for-threatening-facebook-comments.html
>>691590631
"I'm proud that my county are a bunch of unarmed cucks that are total subjects to our government, not like those freedom loving americans lol"
Ok bro, enjoy your cock
