Assault rifles should become illegal. And I will tell you why.
FACT: In 2005, the year after the Clinton assault ban was lifted, murders with assault weapons rose 140%.
FACT: In a 2006 Brady campaign study, they found that 40% of assault weapon owners think there should be NO gun laws.
FACT: In 2010 there were 13,000 minors killed in USA by assault weapons.
FACT: In a 2009 million mom March study, they found that 40% of gun owners would shoot a person just for stepping on their property
There is NO reason to EVER own a assault weapon.
If you sell assault weapons you Should be charged with assistance to murder. Because you DID supply the weapon.
There is no reason to EVER own a semiautomatic gun.
I think I proved my point you dumb fuck inbred redneck dumbasses.
>inb4 HURR DURR TROLL DURR >INB4 HURRR DURRRR 0/10 DURRRRRR
you know it's the fucking truth
I agree
OP, you Vs The NRA is the equivalent of some spastic kid in a wheelchair taking on Mike Tyson
>>691466878
>implying a steam roller could disable an ak-47
Shows how much you know.
>>691466878
HURR DURR
Maybe we should ban hands too.
Cars too.
Blunt objects too.
Knives too.
>>691467380
Lol OP can't get his head out of his ass long enough to look at the FBI fact sheets.
>>691467380
this is how children argue. False equivalency on a profound level.
Guns should be mandated to be owned by every abled bodied male in the US.
Problem solved.
>>691466878
Now, if only someone defined "assault rifle" in any meaningful way.
>>691467380
and why would we ban hands? we use hands to do other activities, too. cars? we use them to drive to work. blunt objects? like the stuff mechanics use etc.? knives? what would we cut our food with then? do you eat with an assault rifle? do you use an assault rifle to drive to work?
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>>691467599
LOL!
Did you actually fucking read the numbers you man child?
https://www.quandl.com/data/FBI/WEAPONS11-US-Murders-by-Weapon-Type
Don't throw your tendies too hard.
>>691467702
Inb4 the video of the guy eating with a bayonet on his rifle
![2015-11-03-trump-crop_1446572083098_26158207_ver1.0_640_480[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/2qpOgnL.jpg "2015-11-03-trump-crop_1446572083098_26158207_ver1.0_640_480[2].jpg")
>>691467702
>>691467702
I use my guns for target practice, protection, gathering food, fucking your liberal agenda too.
Try harder you faggot.
>>691467764
lol i'm the poster of this >>>>691467702 but i'm interested, anyone has that video?
>>691467909
when was the last time you used your gun for protection?
>>691467909
why do you target practice? are you killing people? protection? isn't a handgun enough? are you that much of a pussy? gathering food? is that when you go the bakery and tell the cashier to hand over the bread?
>>691467945
I've seen it but I don't have it. Maybe we'll get lucky
>>691466878
FACT: Guns are awesome.
FACT: Communism, and Terrorism. Also, threats at home and abroad.
FACT: America has the greatest doctor to daredevil ratio in the world.
>>691467750
Another way of looking at the numbers, more pleasing to me
2 reasons i can see for keeping assault weapons
1. keeping that freedom is american and constitutional
2. protecting against the government
i believe in 1. but not 2. such is the might of the US army that they could sweep across the nation unscathed.
>If you sell assault weapons you Should be charged with assistance to murder
This is retarded but i agree with everything else tho, there's no reason to own an assault rifle, pistols should be enough for personal protection.
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>>691468091
>>691468025
Keep moving your goalposts faggots.
Not all of us live in San Francisco where the riskiest thing we do is go to a gay bar.
>>691466878
Spot the difference asshat.
>>691466878
OR OR OR you can emigrate to a shit-tier country that already bans them, you wet-panty trap faggot! Then wait defenselessly for your co-migrating Muslim brethren to widen your dainty shithole for you. Done AND done.
>>691466878
Oh shit facts? Get that bullshit out of here!
>>691467909
You dont need AR's for hunting. Thats why double barrel shotguns and bolt action rifles exist.
>>691466878
Shut up faggot, if that's how you want to live than live that way, stop trying to tell others how to live though you shitty little control freak fucklord
>>691468484
All I see are assault weapons.
>>691468450
oh so what do you do? englighten us please. do you hunt with assault rifles?
>>691466878
>Assault rifle
>Semiautomatic
My jimmies
>>691466878
We need assault weapons to over throw a tyrannical government.
That's what the second amendment is about.
So yeah, we need assault weapons.
>>691466878
Assault rifles are illegal.
>>691468601
AR-15 is hands down the best rifle for knocking the ass out of Coyotes, Bobcats and smaller hogs.
Assault rifles are illegal you stupid fucking uneducated nigger.Jesus Christ, AR 15s are not assault rifles. An assault rifle has selective fire (burst, auto). You can kill way way more fucking people with an m4a1 than an ar 15. Wanna know why? Because the m4a1 is a full auto military ASSAULT RIFLE that's illegal to civilians. Fuck
>>691468484
they should all be illegal
death penalty for owning one
$100k reward for turning someone in for possession
And yet everyone is okay with letting illegal immigrants drive 2 ton cars while drunk
>>691468760
Bet you fish with dynamite also
Why not just have bolt action rifles as a standard and semis require a little more effort? Not necessarily to the extent you have to go through for a full auto.
But a semiautomatic rifle is not what they had in mind when the 2nd ammendment was written and as a living document it does need to change, within reason, over time.
The real issue is that we have a society of pussys so anyone that wants to do something can do so easily.
>>691468484
stop telling the liberal fags about our alternate awesome gun ideas after they ban our arfteen-thousands!
Fuck you op. Commit suicide.
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>>691468797
There should be an award for reporting dumb cunts like you.
>>691468733
he's right, you know...
>>691468760
>implying you won't be able to be a fucking holy terror to all living things without an AR.
God what did the human race do before armalite... how did we survive all the coyotes and small hogs
>>691468760
>>691467909
>not hunting with a spear and bow and arrow
Jesus, you pussies.
>>691468450
top fucking kek!
>>691468874
That's a slippery slope, anon. Watch your step
>>691468655
As the current laws define assault rifle, no I do not. I do however hunt using an AR-15.
PS: Not that Anon
>>691468720
you'd need more than that to be anything other than a minor afterthought.
your military is absolutely overpowering. you wouldn't stand a chance,
>>691468647
Well, you are a problem aren't you? Assault weapons have select fire, AR-15 does not. Safe and fire is all it does. It cannot be switched to burst (three bangs) or full auto (continuous bang). It operates like any semi-auto gun... shot guns included. Hell, my ruger 10-22 operates in the same manner, nobody wants to ban that, It's down right deadly less than 30 yards. I've killed Black Hills White Tails with it.
>>691468874
no one's come for anything you paranoid delusional
ya got mental problems.
of course you're fuckin armed too
excellent
>>691466878
Assault weapons are not sold in gun store you fucking idiot. The AR stands for Armalite. The company that produced them. Yes. They are black and look like a mean and evil weapon. They are modular repeating rifles. One shot per trigger pull. Get your shit straight before you get up on your soapbox. Help make this world a better place fool.
>>691468953
>hunting with a spear and bow and arrow
it will be 2 years before you get anything
>>691468834
It's a fucking .223. A common fucking hunting round. And no, I don't use dupont lures to fish.
>>691468450
hahaha you fucking fat yank. you have no valid points man, you prob have never used it for protection. you use it because of your tiny dick needs to compensate, stay mad pin dick
>>691468947
Do Dot forget the mother fucking wolf's and cougers
What's an assault weapon?
>>691469226
Only if you suck, which I'm sure most of you do. I bet you even drive to the hunting grounds with a jeep or truck, don't you? You guys are a buncha fags.
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>>691469255
Ya, not even close.
>>691469132
Says every brainwashed leftist idiot. Hillary has spoken the very words that she will do everything in her power to defeat the NRA and impose bans on weapons. You need to get right with God, son.
>>691468947
We maimed things.
Look, a question was asked about what I need that weapon for, I told you. You got butthurt.
>>691469350
hammers are for hammering, guns are for injuring
>>691468720
lol
i love coming on here and reading this shit every day. it's like there's an endless supply of retards who still think they live in the 1800s being born and signing up with the NRA all the time. How lucky for gun manufacturers.
>>691468423
Are you retarded? It would take only 6% of the United states' population to successfully perform an armed insurgency against the united states' military. You can already see the trouble in fighting insurgencies abroad, where we don't care AS MUCH about civilian casualties.
YEAH criminals always follow the gun laws. Lets just make them stricter and stricter. Im sure that will top those guys who totally followed the law to obtain those weapons in the first place.
>>691469308
and bobcats and hedgehogs and squirrels oh my
>>691469385
That was THE LAMEST retort I have seen on here in a long long time. Thank you brain dead anon for the lulz
>>691469385
How else are you supposed to get there? A fucking bike? If you are implying that we don't stalk... fuck you.
>>691469426
>bud light
useless fucking americans
>>691469517
>It would take only 6% of the United states' population to successfully perform an armed insurgency against the united states' military.
citations required.
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>>691469624
Not being from America = useless.
>>691469498
No, guns are for shooting. I've probably shot twenty thousand plus rounds in my life and not a single one at another human.
>>691469771
Ditto
>>691467145
well played sir.
The assault weapons ban of the 90's had zero impact on the rate of firearms related crime~the FBI
>>691469586
Yeah. Worked with the war on drugs...oh wait...
>>691469622
>sitting in a tree covered in deer piss
>Stalking
Modern hunters are a bunch of lazy, fatasses. Be a real hunter for once.
>how else are you suppose to get there?
How about walk, you lazy fuck. You and your band take your earnings back with you. You guys suck.
>>691469445
>making fun of you for being a big pussy
>means butthurt
lol
i don't think that word means what you think it means.
>>691469385
look out - this ALPHA MALE runs in a loincloth into the amazon with nothing but a spear and his 20 inch dick and emerges with an entire presently extinct species draped over his shoulders.
>>691467302
retard doesn't know it becomes even stronger
>>691466878
I own a hunting rifle for hunting, obviously, and a basic handgun for concealed carry.
I honestly see absolutely no reason for someone to tote around a fucking AK-47 or AR-15 and so on. Shit, even a fucking uzi is pointless. You can't use that shit for hunting unless you want to crack a tooth on a bullet shell while eating your steak.
I hate how we're so polarized as a fucking nation that if you're not on the side saying all guns should be illegal, you're on the side that says there should be absolutely no gun restriction whatsoever, and there shouldn't even be any research on gun violence or gun related deaths.
If you seriously think there is absolutely -nothing- we could do even a little bit better about our gun policies, you are one of the shitty gun owners that make the rest of us look bad.
>>691467145
mild kek
>>691469970
How would one catch anything that is presently extinct? Slow your roll and think before you hit send summerfag.
>>691469970
You're god damn fucking right. But my dick is only 5 inches long.
>>691466878
FACT: Everyone has rights to bear arms
>>691467145
I would pay ro see this fight
>>691466878
First of all no shit murders with assault weapons rose when a ban was lifted thats what happens when you put more guns in circulation, Second of all 31,076 people died from guns (including the 13k minors) and 2,596,993 died in all in 2010. out of 2.5 million 31k is almost nothing right? and third of all your two other facts are based on peoples opinions and things that literally might happen and you say that is a valid enough reason to ban all assault weapons? are you retarded?
>>691466878
>FACT: In 2010 there were 13,000 minors killed in USA by assault weapons.
>FACT: In 2005, the year after the Clinton assault ban was lifted, murders with assault weapons rose 140%.
Not true at all.
take your shit somewhere else
>>691469771
and swords are for swinging right?
come on. houses are for living, guitars are for palying, deoderant is for smelling good. but houses can be for parties, guitars can be useful lap-top coffee tables and deoderant makes a good flamethrower.
no, guns are for inflicting damage.
>>691466878
Agreed. While we're at it, we should euthanize all aggressive breeds of dog, too. Rotties, dobermans, and shit-tier pit bulls. Let's also prohibit SUVs and full-size trucks (unless you have a farmer's permit). Let's govern all vehicles at 65 mph, outlaw high-fructose corn syrup, and have government-mandated exercise classes.
Seriously, not kidding.
>>691468760
Holy fucking shit I hope you're kidding.
Also, why the fuck are you hunting coyotes and bobcats? Smaller hogs make for good eats, but the fuck are you doing with the rest?
>>691469724
Well, if you think about it, 6% would be 19 million people. The united states' military has consisted of, at it's peak, 1.3 million. And this is assuming that there are no defectors. Going further, the united states has VERY seasoned outdoorsman, and for the most part, are better at it than most armed forces members. It'd be nearly impossible to distinguish an insurgent from a regular citizen, and most people would keep their affiliation with said insurgency a secret, since this isn't about imposing their will upon others. Overall, a homefront battle like that would, in a best case scenario, end like vietnam.
>>691469724
About 2,100,000 people serving in the US Armed Forces vs. 6% of the US population (19,080,000). You don't need citations retard, just simple math.
>>691467682
They did. Made a few models. But stopped.
Only assault rifle ever is stg44 and you know it.
>>691470085
>bullet shell
Definitely a gun owner.
>>691466878
>citation needed
>>691470379
Half of what you said is pretty acceptable. But most accidents happen at less than 65mph (mostly at intersections) and are operator faults.
>>691470191
are you aware of the meaning of the word present
Those're fucking dumb ass humans who kill other humans, not guns. This thread, as well as murrica, is full of complete imbeciles looks like.
>>691466878
>semiautomatic gun
Handguns are semiautomatic. Should we ban those, too?
You do realize Assault weapons are those with selective fire capabilities? Not the scary looking AR-15s.
Assault rifles are already heavily regulated in the US
>>691466878
>implying too many precious snowflakes have died
KYS faggot. Seriously, take your meth head transsexual mom's shenis out of your rancid, anal warts infested asshole, then wipe the nigger semen out of your mascara-laden eyes and KYS by tying a noose (if you don't know how to tie a basic knot, call a man) using your pink and fuchsia cashmere-blend argyle scarf, tie it around the waist of your life-sized silicone sailor moon fuckdoll, then wrap the noose around your dainty neck, pull it tight, go to the nearest bridge and jump in the river. You're clearly not a strong swimmer and absolutely nobody would have any interest in saving you.
>>691470379
A world our lazy asses would never work towards...
>>691470348
Guitars are for playing, true. But what kind of music?
Don't be a faggot.
I'm surrounded by pussy's. Why the fuck would you want to limit what you have to protect yourself with. The terrorist are using full auto, and you want to put a damn musket in the hands of the American public. Why? Because the constitution was written before they knew what kind of fire arms we would have. Read a fucken book. The second amendment was put there so that we can maintain a militia, one that can defend our freedoms from both foreign and domestic threats. If you limit the type of wepons accessible to American citizens, then you are subjecting that freedom to failure. Our nation is armed to the teeth. If it were to become a tyrannical government, how do you suppose we go about protecting our freedom when we are out gunned. 7/4/1776 Google that shit.
>>691470485
and how many tanks, aircraft, vessels, drones and fucking nukes and oh only the rest of the stuff that that the MASSIVE US military budget funds every year, does the average US citizen have? not to mention the extremely detailed intel of the CIA
>>691470610
Uh, yes. Presently. Right now. At this time. If something is presently extinct when he carries armfuls of it back, he would have nothing because it is presently extinct. Please tell me you're trolling and not really this fucking dense.
>>691470085
You are one of the faggots that doesn't realize that by taking the side against "assault rifles" you're actually fucking yourself for when they decide you don't need a handgun or high power scoped hunting rifle. No one needs a scope on their rifle, the founding fathers didn't write the 2nd amendment to allow civilians to have rifles that could shoot over 100 yard etc. etc.
The same kind of bullshit happened in California when the SASS guys threw the modern sporting rifle guys under the bus with the lame ass "nobody needs" bullshit. Then when their toys were facing regulation they came running back trying to gain support from the rest of the shooting community.
>>691470878
And everyone knows that the USA's soldiers will willfully attack their fellow citizens.
>>691470853
ok then, how about this?
i want flamethrowers, chemical weapons, weaponized anthrax and tactical nukes to be legal to purchase. i promise i won't hurt anyone tho.
sound good?
>>691470878
>implying that they'll be able to use that in an insurgency/geurilla-type warfare in heavily populated areas
>implying that if an armed insurgency started due to political reasons, none of the US military members wouldn't defect
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>>691466878
Your stats are complete fucking bullshit.>>691466878
>FACT: In 2005, the year after the Clinton assault ban was lifted, murders with assault weapons rose 140%.
Not true at all:
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2005
>FACT: In a 2006 Brady campaign study, they found that 40% of assault weapon owners think there should be NO gun laws.
Brady campaign study. HA!
>FACT: In 2010 there were 13,000 minors killed in USA by assault weapons
Not even close you retard. https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/10shrtbl08.xls
>FACT: In a 2009 million mom March study, they found that 40% of gun owners would shoot a person just for stepping on their property
Source?
Pic related; it's the faggots who want no scary looking guns.
>>691470878
You realize 90% of the military wouldn't do a single thing if ordered to shoot or bring willful harm to a U.S civilian?
>>691466878
Bait or you're such a pussy
>>691470942
>"ACTUALLY..."
spotted the guy who stands in the corner at parties.
>>691466878
FACT: anti gun fags cherry pick crime stats that only involve guns to push their agenda, while ignoring the effect it has on over all violent crime, which goes UP when restrictions and bans are placed on guns.
But no, continue to ignore that people get more confident to use knives and baseball bats when they know their "law abiding" target is less likely to be packing.
>>691470461
You're putting a bunch of untrained rednecks against state of the art military technology. They would know exactly which areas to protect the hardest, and which targets are the highest priority.
They don't need to kill 19 million people, they just need to kill the retard who started the insurgency, and make an example out of the people directly under him.
Also, the US can't even decide on genders, so what the fuck makes you think 19 million people are going to band together and do -anything-, let alone overthrow a government.
>>691471098
They can't even touch Isis for fucks sake. There's no way they could put a dent in a homeland insurgency.
>>691471093
Silly me, I forgot that an AR-15 was on the same level as those other weapons.
Anthrax, nukes and the like have no other use. A semiautomatic rifle does.
>>691468797
Come and take it.
>>691471181
that's just brazen man. what a silly thing to think.
>>691470047
AK-47 strong like bull
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>>691471225
His stats aren't even correct.
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/10shrtbl08.xls
>>691471239
A bunch of these "retarded rednecks" consist of retired military veterans of all ages.
Also,
>implying that killing Osama Bin Laden and his subooranates stopped Al-Queda from being a thing
>>691471239
Yeah. Just like how the US bombs the unholy fuck out of the leaders of ISIS/Al Qaeda. Those groups haven't actually gained strength and have been totally removed from the region.
>>691471298
so what, what if i like anthrax for its other chemical properties besides killing and i just like to watch explosions?
yeah, these are above ARs, but ARs are above handguns. and yeah, maybe you like to shoot one at a target in your back yard or at a range, but is allowing access of these weapons to people who kill other people in crowds worth your hobby?
>>691471239
>You're putting a bunch of untrained rednecks against state of the art military technology.
I'd be willing to bet that military veterans would be making up a pretty good chunk of the folks that decide that the government has overstepped.
Also Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq
>>691468375
time to ban knives
>>691471303
You're an idiot if you think they would. Some of us are psychotic but I don't a single person here that would shoot outside the gate if someone told him to. We actually had conversations about that here, and "insurgency on the U.S soil" and most of us here said they wouldn't take part in it, we got 2 rednecks in our unit who said they'd run off and join the "insurgency" which is dumb because an insurgency wouldn't happen.
FACT: Kids use these rifles in Switzerland and we have one of the lowest homicide rates in the world
It's not the gun you moron, it's the people.
>>691471606
My hobby? No. My rights? Yes.
>>691471213
>can't even green text properly
>regurgitates a funny quip he read yesterday
Summerfag detected.
>>691471530
>implying fighting a war against the people of a country when you have unlimited access to decades of intel of every description and control of the entire infrastructure to begin with is even comparable to fighting a foreign war in unfamiliar soil.
>>691466878
>2005
>2006
>2010
>2009.......... u toopid?
>>691470583
>Oh no he said something differently than how I say it
What do you prefer? Shell casing? Bullet casing? Empty cartridge? Although that wouldn't apply unless I was using my shotgun. If you know what I'm referring to, it doesn't matter what the fuck I use to describe it you faggot snob. My buddy calls them PoFs. Proof of Fun.
>>691471050
>slippery slope fallacy
Yeah let's not try to even look into or address a problem even remotely because of what might happen next. That makes perfect sense. No, you're a fucking retard. Take off your tinfoil hat.
>>691471840
>implying our military would obey an unlawful order brought about by an Un-Constitutional gun grab.
>>691471820
>complains about greentexting
clutching at straws are we?
i don't even have to try, you're making yourself look like a fucking fool, doing my job for me lmao
>>691468601
Have you ever actually been in the woods, you fucking pussy? I assume not, so let me let you in on something. There's these animals, see, they are called different things depending on what region you are in, but many know these things as "DOGS". The dogs are vicious, mean mother fuckers with sharp teeth for eating meat. They will eat ANY meat. They are fast, and they are smart, and the scariest part is, they hunt in packs. A double barrel shotgun or bolt action may take out one or two, but it's friends will get you before you get all of them.
But no, keep sitting in your chair, sipping your latte in the safety of your home, thinking that since you are too cowardly to leave your comfort zone to even need a gun, that no one else should have one either. Gods forbid anyone step outside their air conditioned home or office and experience anything different from your limited, useless life.
>>691471840
What intel, exactly? I'm pretty goddamn positive the US has spent billions more collecting Intel on our allies and enemies than on its own citizens.
>>691472069
>can't defend against a few dogs without an assault rifle
>>691471737
If your argument ends with "muh freedom" then you've pretty much already lost.
>>691471840
You also discount the intelligence and education of the average US citizen. These people in unfamiliar soil are generally uneducated and don't know what they're doing by any means, they just shoot at shit, and do what their higher (and better educated) powers tell them to do. And DESPITE ALL THIS they still put up a decent fight. In the US, finding support from people from ALL walks of life would be particularly easy. And this is all under the assumption that people from these agencies wouldn't defect.
>>691470085
>bullet shell
You are full of shit and don't own one single fire arm.
FACT: Bears are omnivores
>>691472228
lol this nigga.
>>691471181
You realize that 90% of the military would fill you full of holes for posing a lethal threat to not only other military officials, but also other citizens that may be caught in the crossfire or don't support your retarded ideologies?
You're making the assumption that everyone will agree that you have the full and complete 100% moral high-ground with a completely justified reason for treason.
No, dipshit. You're going to be called a terrorist, lose your citizenry as far as the military is concerned, then be put down for being a radical anarchist.
>>691472022
>Take off your tinfoil hat.
Not tinfoil hat territory when the shit has happened before and members of the left have publicly stated their end goal is no private ownership of any firearms, the dissenting opinion in Heller McDonald was that the 2nd Amendment doesn't grant private gun ownership etc.
It's not a hard concept to understand that total disarmament is the end goal, so when you agree to banning one type of firearm you are opening the door for everything else.
>>691472088
national registers, tax records, medical records, criminal records, and basically all the other massive backlogs of data which has been gathered so intensely by the various arms of the US government including CIA, police etc that its become a focal point of discontent for years now.
>>691472490
Use your arrows and spear, fucker. Pick a few off with your arrows, then jab with your spear when it comes close enough. It isn't hard.
>>691472524
You obviously don't know people in the military then.
>>691471736
Thank you, based Swiss-bro. You have the best people, the best cheese, the best knives, and the best "don't fuck with us, assholes" attitude.
>>691472573
National registry of what exactly? Guns? There are an ESTIMATED 300 million guns. Do you really believe that the government actually knows who owns what?
>>691472260
>finding support from people from ALL walks of life would be particularly easy
that's 100% situational and its doubtful that a full on citizens vs military fight would ever actually happen. what's more likely is what is happening all over the world as we speak - targets of prime importance would be simply hunted down and eliminated. it would be nothing like the movies. and it would be an act of unlikely, remarkable stupidity and incompetence on the part of the government to allow things to devolve into such a situation anyway.
look, america is kind of a mess compared to the rest of the western world but none of you give a shit. you have your reasons, you have your guns, but nothing has been done. so when is this rebellion exactly?
>>691466878
Not a single one of your 'facts' are even remotely correct, d-bag.
>>691471611
Ignoring how wars in other countries are definitely the exact same thing as civil wars (you're retarded), you're making the assumption that military veterans would be easily swayed into treason.
How is the government overstepping? Who decides that? You, some reactionary retard? What are you going to do after you overthrow the government? Make a new government? Is it going to be a better government? How are you going to police it? What laws are going to be changed?
See, these questions, and more, are what any rational person with a family will think before joining some shitty retarded resistance force because "so unfair".
>>691472979
Didn't say it would happen, just saying that it's definitely possible to overthrow a tyrannical government in the United States. After all, people consistently deny that it is.
>>691468874
This is find to be the truth, also to OP 13000 minors killed with assault weapons? Sauce pls.
>>691472979
>so when is this rebellion exactly?
Right about the time the government decides to circumvent the Constitution and starts confiscating legally owned private property.
>>691472228
>a few dogs
Sure, a dozen is "a few". Confirmed for being a sheltered pussy. The only reason humans weren't killed by wolves in the first place is because we learned to be better pack hunters, and even turned some of them to our side. Excuse me if I don't want to round up hunting party every time I want to go for a hike. Come to TN and take a walk in the woods with a double barrel or bolt action. I fucking dare you.
Guns are legal so liberal fags and OP can go shoot themselves.
>>691473161
There are already many military veterans that disagree with the United states government as is. Not that they're going to start a war, but it's very possible. And I'm talking from personal experience, with many of these retirees being ranked colonel and beyond.
>>691466878
What's that? Can't hear you.
>>691473342
But I live in KY, and deal with them every day. Hit them over the head with a stick and they run away. It isn't hard unless you come across a bear. Don't call me a pussy because you got bit by a dog when you were a baby and now you're afraid of them. kek
>>691468450
>Not all of us live in Orlando where the riskiest thing we do is go to a gay bar.
Fixed that for you
>>691472615
>I've never stepped foot in the wilderness, but I'm going to talk like I fucking know anything about it.
>>691469027
Overpowering? Look at the abortion of Afghanistan and Vietnam where air superiority and technological superiority lost to guerilla tactics. If anything our military is a joke for what its worth.
>>691466878
Sources for these stats?
>>691473627
>responding to obvious trolls with actual insults.
>>691469498
Genetic fallacy and your argument is garbage, faggot.
>>691472534
Here's the thing. If they want to take away -ALL- guns, it's just plain 100% not going to work. There are more guns than people in this fucking country. I fucking have 3 and I'm just one person. Assault rifles are much easier to manage and control because there are far fewer of them and they're a bitch to get unless you're into some illegal shit.
If there was a ban on assault rifles, which honestly have no fucking practical use, this would be justified. But if there was a ban on each and every gun, 1.) It wouldn't pass. It just wouldn't, and 2.) Handguns, hunting rifles, and (some) shotguns have very practical uses that some of us filthy fucks in the South who live in the forest actually need to live and feed our kids and community.
They're either going to meet in the middle, or not at all. And you know what, there could be 50 mass shootings with 100 causalities each -tomorrow-, and there wouldn't be any change in gun laws at all, so the left is barking up a fucking wall, and so are we for having this conversation.
>>691473802
OP's gaping asshole.
![carlcuck[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/JLOuSrN.jpg "carlcuck[2].jpg")
>>691473802
He has none. Because they're all wrong.
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/10shrtbl08.xls
>>691473555
>Hit them over the head with a stick and they run away.
Oh, tough guy, walked down the street and hit the neighbor's yappy chihuahua when it got to close? Yeah, you're so well versed with the wilderness, it's dangers, and how a fucking pack of wild animals hunt.
>>691473923
Fuck meet in the middle; we gun owners have given ground over and over again, it is time to say "enough is enough."
>>691473161
You'd be surprised at the number of military members both retired and active who would be swayed into "treason". Given proper economic condition you could have a White Putsch easily. A military coup would easily fix any problem your governments cause within constitutionality.
>>691466878
sorry, what the hell is an assault rifle anyway?
whatever idiot came up with that term deserves a prize for mutilating English language.
Also it's not about guns, it's about Murica's fucked up society and maniacs who got brainwashed by the representatives of their particular fantasy football team aka religion.
Other countries with liberal gun laws get their shit together too.
Other countries with highly restrictive gun laws get attacked by terrorist scum as well, think about France. They rampaged with full auto AKs, that shit isn't even legal in the US in most states.
>>691466878
Go. Read. Learn.
https:// westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2012/09/11/what-i-saw-at-the-coup/
>>691472726
Bitch faggot I have 6 relatives in the military and I've had this fucking conversation with them before. Every one of them agreed that the only way the military would help in "overthrowing" the government is if they were ordered to open fire on a US citizen for absolutely no reason. Overseas, they aren't even allowed to shoot in the general direction of -any- civilian thanks to Jeneva.
So yes, if the government for some random reason said "kill them all!", then whoever made that order would immediately be stripped of rank and title, then put in jail.
That being the case, what reason would -you- have for trying to overthrow the government? If you know that the military would never carry out innocent civilian slaughter, then what would make you think "well killing government officials who oppose us would be fine with them probably"?
If you're pointing a gun at anyone who isn't posing a -direct- threat to you, you are a criminal and you will be dealt with like a criminal. The military, from what I understand, would have absolutely no problem enforcing this.
>>691466878
>>691466878
>There is no reason to EVER own a semiautomatic gun.
This turns the everyday whining into bait
>>691468834
>>691470085
Spot the braindead fudd
>>691466878
What we have here is a language problem.
Assault means to attack. If I never use my rifle to attack something, how is it an assault rifle?
>>691473161
You're under the assumption that it would be a full scale war, IF a handful of officials break their oath of office and were to overstep their authority then those officials would be removed from office by force if necessary (See Battle of Athens Ga.).
The state I live in has a whole mess of bullshit anti-gun legislation making it's way to the governors desk, if it gets signed into law and I disobeyed the un-Constitutional aspects of those laws and refused to surrender certain firearms or accessories and the state government felt compelled to send armed agents to confiscate said items. Well I guess that's when I would decide if they have overstepped and were actively violating my civil rights and I would decide at that point in time how far I'd be willing to go.
And as a Vet. I'd be a little angry to see people violating their oaths of office, and if you don't have honor I have no use for you.
>>691470878
>Hey Jim, you know your neighbor Tom that you've known for 20 years?
>I need you to drone strike his house and kill him and his entire family because he has an AR 15 and we said he can't have that anymore and he won't comply
Yeah, if the shit ever hit the fan, most soldiers would defect and join the rebellion than fire on their own citizens
>America nuking it's own soil
For what fucking purpose would that solve?
>>691474384
Church
>>691474284
>>691473465
But who the fuck is leading, anons? Are you? Are they? Does everyone have to agree on a leader? Whose to say this guy won't just try to provide maximum benefits for himself and his family and kind of toss scraps to everyone else? What if he's a racist and wants to reinstate Chinese slavery (implying we haven't already haha)?
You can't just shit in your hand and call yourself a leader. You have to actually plan this shit out and have it be agreed upon "alright he has our best interests at heart". Convincing a few thousand people of this is 100% possible. But 19 fucking million people from all walks of life? What is this guy the fucking Negotiator or something?
>>691466878
i hope you get shot
>>691467380
I'm down with banning all firearms that have no other purpose than to kill. Just because you shoot a gun for fun doesn't mean it wasn't designed to only kill.
>>691468851
It absolutely was.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puckle_gun
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girandoni_air_rifle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belton_flintlock
Those are all repeating firearms available or known at the time of the writing of the second amendment. If our forefathers thought we only needed single shot rifles, the language would indicate such.
>>691475013
All guns are designed to kill you fucking knob, well all guns except the TG3000
>>691474066
Given ground how? My quality of life honestly hasn't gone down because of needing to provide additional information to get my ammo and shit. I don't really need those newer fancier guns so ammo is about as far as it goes. No need to pull up my Elementary School behavioral record and shit.
>>691466878
Didn't know that Chris Evans lurks on /b/
>>691474781
Found him. It's the guy in the picture.
>>691475355
I'm quite sure he meant designed to kill other humans.
>>691468851
>But a semiautomatic rifle is not what they had in mind when the 2nd ammendment was written and as a living document it does need to change, within reason, over time.
Puckle Gun. Invented 50 years before the constitution wad written. Don't say that they didn't have any notion of technology advancing passed a musket.
>>691475358
Obviously you don't live in California if you're asking what ground.
>>691466878
>HURR DURR TROLL DURR >INB4 HURRR DURRRR 0/10 DURRRRRR
>>691475761
Indeed.
>>691466878
I agree man good on ya
>>691475645
With the exception of the TG3000 point to one firearm that doesn't have its roots in a military firearm designed to kill humans. It doesn't matter what it was designed to do because without human interaction it won't do anything.
>>691466878
Fucking stay mad OP you will never take them and I will keep enjoying them everyday.
>>691471736
It's not the people so much as the niggers.
>>691470942
They are presently extinct because he killed them all.
How retarded are you?
>>691466878
Awww, op you're so mad. Someone needs one of these and to take a nap.
>>691466878
It's not a gun problem. It's a nigger problem
>>691472444
Tell that to polar bears, you dozy fucking faggot kike.
come and take my ar15
>>691467380
I dare u to kill 40 people with your bare hands in under 10 seconds. Fuck it IL even throw u a knife
>>691472750
You forgot the best we remain neutral and generally don't really care about anything but your money.
Switzerland is muy cool.
>>691473261
Like expropriation?
>>691476989
Guy in China recently got 28 with a knife, and all Chinese know Kung fu, imagine the damage that could be done in a bar filled with gay people.
>>691466878
You're wrong.
We all need to own guns. There should be mandatory ownership in this country.
No such thing as assault rifles dumb dumb.
>>691477010
Didn't forget, it just goes without saying. By the way, what are your immigration policies like?
>>691466878
FACT: I would shoot YOU for the pure enjoyment of it.
>>691466878
America doesnt have a redneck problem america doesnt have a gun problem! america has a nigger problem! look at the facts and statistics niggers cause 6000% more crimes than whites. the amount compared to whites is so small its almost completely pointless! deal with your nigger situation and crime rates will drop! the higher the nigger population the higher the crime rate.
>>691477243
Assuming that the government doesn't compensate the owner with fair market value for their land and that the owner doesn't owe some sort of back taxes or other fines that the land is being confiscated in lieu of payment? Then yes I think that land owner has every right to protect his legally owned private property from theft how ever he sees fit.
>>691474798
If it's not a SturmGewehr, how is it ever an assault rifle?
I'm sorry. Buying into anti gun propaganda is just uncool and unwise.
>>691468655
No, we need ARs to make sure you faggots and the government don't come and take away the hunting rifles
What about this it's not a " assault rifle" it is semi auto tho
we need guns because we are surrounded by dangerous niggers
>>691477970
>No, we need ARs to make sure you faggots and the government don't come and take away the hunting rifles
I...actually like this a lot. I'm going to use it
>>691475761
Why would anyone live in California? Don't they have a guilty until proven innocent law regarding rape accusations now? Get the fuck out of there.
>>691472240
muh freedom IS the end all be all for these types of arguments.
>unstable 3rd world countries are experiencing a massive population boom due to western medicines being introduced
>infrastructure and environment not suited for this situation
>Immigration. immigration everywhere.
>Stable first world countries become lawless shitholes
>too bad we took those guns you didnt need.
>enjoy your home invasions and rape.
An armed society is a polite society.
>>691478375
I have a year left here before I head for Arizona, just biding my time and counting the days.
>>691478067
Semi auto 12ga that you can buy armor piercing rounds also dragon breath and many more and have a 30 round drum mag
>>691466878
fuck, let the fucking american get all the weapons so they kill eachother and i laugh from home, ajajaja
>>691478067
this argument is an easy trap to fall in. there is no point in arguing semantics like that, when gun banners want to get rid of all guns, regardless of mechanism or looks. the fact is, the NFA of 1934 and GCA of 1968 are unconstitutional federal measures. Fully automatic machine guns and rifles should be completely legal for the public to own on a federal level
>>691466878
>>691478581
>ajajaja
Beaner confirmed, if you've got time to laugh, you've got time to mow my lawn.
>FACT: In 2005, the year after the Clinton assault ban was lifted, murders with assault weapons rose 140%.
>murders with
>MURDERS WITH
When will people understand that this is a worthless fucking statistic?
>>691477862
But compensation is irrelevant if he doesn't want to sell.
If, let's just pretend, guns were banned, and they'd pay you market price when they take your gun(s).
You still think it's ok?
>>691466878
its not a gun problem, its a minority problem
>>691478375
Not only that, but they have a firearms restraining order law where anyone reported to be violent, unstable or whatever bullshit reason will have a restraining order put against them and have their guns confiscated and taken until they can prove their innocence.
Absolutely zero due process and fucking fascist law. Fuck Commiefornia so much
>>691478450
If you need more than a pistol or shotgun to take out a towelhead then your family was meant to get raped.
A lot of them fuck dudes too so you're double fucked.
>>691466878
But guns are fun. And what about us hunters? Im not using a bow like a faggot. Also pic related
>>691477525
Stg
>>691478650
I agree I'm just makeing a point that it's not a assault rifle
>>691471736
well modafucker, thats because swiss people are intelligent and well educated, the opossite than american fuckers
>>691478808
no, that is still compulsory disarmament. for most gun owners, the freedom of owning a gun is invaluable and worth more than any sum of money. it's a tool people depend on to protect their life, and the future of their children
>>691478873
I didn't know India and the Middle East were such peaceful regions
Fuck off with your bullshit map
>assault rifle
>literally a semi-automatic rifle tacticool attachment points
Why are liberals so scared of guns?
ur a fucktard ITS A FACT!
>>691472022
how would a shell casing end up in your food you disabled faggot
>>691478942
It's glorious isn't it?
>>691478850
So your going to shoot a towelhead....from a 100 yards when he has a ak47 ?
>>691478836
Wouldn't that just mean Black people can't own guns
>>691479030
They count as people?
>>691479049
Literally niggers
>>691479014
So what you're saying is expropriation IS wrong.
>>691478836
holy fuck, it has a "aim" in the front!
BAN IT!
>>691478836
Something about that pic feels... wrong
>>691479191
Ban tactical assault niggers
>>691479175
No it means if you break up with your girlfriend she can sic that law on you saying you're violent and have the police ransack your house without a warrant
>>691479299
Well they are black, so of course they're scary and should be banned
"Let's ban guns so people can't shoot people" okay if I wanted to kill someone and for some reason firearms where banned that's not gonna stop me from shanking a bitch. If I can't gets guns I'll use the next best thing .
lol so bayd son do u think this is my firdst time
>>691469068
>lol as long as my guns aren't 3 round burst or fully automatic that makes it perfectly fine
almost sound like a child
>>691479432
Hammers!
>>691466878
Don't know if serious are fucking retarded
>>691478896
it was always meant to be up to the states to decide their own laws, as long as they fall into the constitution
>>691479216
if it's forced by law, yes. if the government just wants to have a voluntary, feel good gun buyback (to get dem guns off da streets) like the retarded police departments in big urban cities, no, theres nothing wrong with that.
>>691479166
They're not coming from overseas with a fucking ak dude what the fuck?
If he invades my home with a ak47 and catches me unawares, I'm fucked no matter what gun I have.
But my house isn't 100 yards in any given direction so that's a moot point.
>>691467302
yea they are making slim line AKs, op doesnt even know he posted a picture from one of the top Assault Rifle modification companies. they are making the Ak assault rifle version 47 est. 2015
>>691466878
Annually, more children die from drowning in a pool. Water company responsible for the deaths? Pool company as well?
>FACT: In 2010 there were 13,000 minors killed in USA by assault weapons.
That's just a flat out fucking lie. Only 248 people were killed with rifles of any kind in 2014 and I believe the number was something like 300ish in 2010. And that's all rifles including hunting rifles not just assault weapons. So that's no far off from the truth it's not even funny.
The Department of Justice noted in a study that came out after the Assault Weapons Ban ended that if it were to be renewed the affect on crime would be too small to measure statistically.
Statistically speaking you're much more likely to be stabbed to death than killed with an assault weapon so lets ban kitchen knives if that's such a big issue. Spree killings like Orlando and so forth are rare in the U.S. it's just that the news likes getting ratings and making islamafags famous. Gun violence in general in the U.S. is declining every year it's just small pockets like Chicago where gangstas are shooting each other like 80 times per weekend where there's an issue of gun violence. And that's because shitheads think the war on drugs is a good idea so gangs are going to war with each other for getting in on their drug market. End the war on drugs and gun violence takes care of itself.
>>691479300
I think youre replying to the wrong person. Theres a few more technicalities to it than that. But sadly it does happen.
Shit my boss cant own a firearm due to a restraining order. I think the system works fine as it is. Of course every system has flaws, loopholes, and fags.
>>691479118
>*bullet
There you go. Have fun.
>>691468851
>>691479597
That pic/post combo made me kek
>>691468733
Not illegal, just heavily regulated. Look up class 3 firearms.
>>691478808
That's where the "Then yes I think that land owner has every right to protect his legally owned private property from theft how ever he sees fit." Part comes in. Theft is theft regardless of the language used to justify it.
The only way I would even entertain the thought of handing over my firearms (assuming I'm not barred from ownership from criminal activity or mental adjudication) is if there were a Convention of States and the 2nd Amendment were to be repealed or re written. Until then confiscation is theft and thieves get ventilated.
>>691479545
Well, I meant expropriation.
We're gonna build a road, and it needs to be where your house is. Here's what the house is worth, no GTFO.
>>691479432
Yeah that's the point. Give your victim a fighting chance.
all semi auto guns, save a few models for hunting (internal mags of only 3 rounds) should be illegal.
>>691479191
if you take into account just white people, that leaves the USA with a lower firearm homicide rate than canada, sweden, norway, lots of europe, etc
if liberals were really bent on trying to solve a problem, they would divert their attention from a CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED INNATE RIGHT, and focus on a specific subset demographic of the population who refuse to integrate into society and become contributing, constructive, productive citizens.
BUT, because it's their voter base, they ignore the problem at the cost of the welfare of the USA. just like they do with illegal immigration, etc
>>691479969
Why?
Show your work.
>>691466878
you're right. I mean why the fuck would you use an assault rifle to defend your property? you wont get attacked by an entire army in a moment
>>691466878
>>691466878
In AMERICA, we don't have to justify why we need one. The second amendment does that for us.
/thread
>tfw my state lets me buy whatever gun I want if I have a concealed carry permit
>tfw it's real easy to get one if you're a good citizen
>tfw I can open carry wherever I want within reason (no public transport, schools, public buildings, etc)
The only bad part is the no fun allowed law, no fully automatic firearms and stuff the ATF considers fun.
