Why did the campaign that stood for British Strength and Unity subsequently cause the breakup of the united kingdom?
>>691457216
Good question. It's ironic.
>>691457216
I'm from London. I want to leave the uk.
Topkek. I can't wait to see England burn to the ground. Fucking pests that nobody likes.
>>691458729
Fucking this
>>691457216
Fuck the scots, they can leave and have their own shitty country instead of leaching off of England.
>>691457724
>>691457939
>>691457958
>>691457961
Fuck off samefag
>>691459098
>leaching off of england
This is what working class scum actually believe
>>691459173
I was just bumping the thread mate calm down. Second guy ain't me
>>691458729
this
/thread
>>691459173
>check the times
One of those is not OP.
>>691457216
All I can ask is, what the fly fuck? Like, why did you do that britbongs?
>>691458729
This
>>691457216
The exact same group of baby boomer old fucks that caused all the mayor problems on the planet stopped Scotland leaving the UK and are also are responsible for the UK leaving the EU. Bunch of stupid old fucking spastic cunts that fucking destroy everything they touch. 20 years once them old cunts are thankfully dead. Scotland will be free soon and the 6 counties in Ireland will follow in time.
Good luck balancing that £1.7 trillion debt that's impossible to pay back, England. You're on your own in a few years. Fucking filthy, arrogant, belligerent bunch of sanctimonious cunts.
>>691459098
Fuck England leaching off London. Fuck off englander.
>>691459587
No basic grasp of politics, macro economics or our place in the world....
"What is the EU" ranked quite highly in Google search the day after....
>>691460119
London is still tiny compared to England, and is so full of immigrants its like a different country anyway.
England will prevail, we invented the modern world, the Midlands and the North is where shit gets done, where the industrial revolution happened and where real people live not in that shithole of a capital
>>691460024
Don't know where you're from but you seem pretty arrogant honestly, I'm from England and I voted remain, in fact Liverpool voted considerably in the majority to remain, despite a lot of people seeing us as bigots and racists.
It's scaremongering from the likes of Nigel Farage who swung the older crowd and his lies are already unraveling.
>>691458481
Leave then, do it quickly before the passports change.
>>691460743
He's safer just going to Canada honestly if he doesn't want to end up deported.
>>691460544
That's right, the midlands and the north are shit.
>>691459098
fuck off retard, you've lost one of the biggest contributors to the uk lmao and no doubt lost the irish as well i hope you and wales have a good time before they see sense and declare independence also
>>691460544
What has the north done in the last 40 years exempt claim neetbux?
>>691460821
Nah man I am English, live in London, I want London to leave England.
>>691461274
kek bunch of drunks and unfunny potato farmers
nothing of value was lost
>>691461401
nice meme
>>691458481
>>691460119
>>691461401
/b/ros lets make London independent
I'm not English, I'm a Londoner
>>691461423
Hey we're not just drunks, we play the bagpipes too.
>>691461478
I genuinely believe this.
>>691458481
Feel the same even while not living in London. I love this vibrant city with a high density of intelligent people, but without the EU it will never be the same now
>>691461401
Fucking muzzi
What a bunch of bitter ass little cry babies. You lost the vote, get the fuck over it. It's not the end of the world.
>>691459098
>What are natural ressources?
Mate, you want to look up, what ressources scottland has
>>691461669
Kek
>>691461994
Probably the end of the GB tho
What are you talking about? American here I thought all of the U.K. Wanted brexit.
>>691460024 OK Scotfag yawn! to be honest I would have loved Scotland to leave the UK you bitter pricks. have the oil and gas but you'll come cap in hand once the cash runs out seeing as you get government hand outs to keep things afloat. the difference here is that England had the bollocks to leave and the Scottish didn't.
>>691458481
Everybody in london is a rich self centred cunt
>>691457216
because the majority of fuckwit english whom voted have genes from germany/france/the contenant. I'd happily see them fuck off my island and let a better class of migrant in. You may think I sound mental but it's simple to spot someone whom has genes that are not from here: ask one to speak english. If you cannot form words properly ''ho now brown cow'' not ''ha nai braan caa'' then you're not even properly fucking english ffs!!!!
>>691457216
Because of fucking idiots. Like massive fucking retarded spastics. There are so many of them here. They shouldn't even be allowed to make their own breakfasts, let alone vote.
>>691462935
*''how now brown cow''
>>691460024
Someone is pretty butthurt.
>>691463184
That wasn't me but I'm butthurt for the exact same reasons but in England
>>691462757
>OK Scotfag yawn!
I'm not Scottish. 1.7 trillion and rising, good luck.
>>691462795
Apparently after the referendum, everyone in 'England' is a poor self centred cunt.
>>691460544
Good luck living in the past.
>>691460024
>Fucking filthy, arrogant, belligerent bunch of sanctimonious cunts.
That is actually unfair to say. After all 48 % of the Britons voted to stay in the EU.
I am German not British, btw.
>>691462935
as I suspected, waaaay too high brow for the sloth types.
>>691458481
Tired of trampling over the rest of the UK?
>>691457216
the dumb fucks were lied to and they bought it hook line and sinker. now they want a revote. ha the dumb fucks. enjoy your isolation. at least the US will still be your friend.
>>691464295
Nah, I just don't want to subsidise you meets any more. London is one of the few places in the UK that actually runs on a surplus, unlike meet middle England.
>>691457216
because contrary to what UKIP's name might suggest, all Farage cares about really is England
>>691460024
/thread
>>691464464
>at least the US will still be your friend.
The EU will also still be Britain's friend. But it isn't going to be "friends with benefits". That's now how divorce works.
>>691462647
mfw even 4chan is a better source of news for Americans than their own media
>>691464793
*not how
>>691464793
smetimes it is. i've fucked plenty of ex girlfriends after we've broken up.
>>691464091
>I am German not British, btw.
Like that makes a difference, in fact it makes it worse. Your guilt ridden country opened the floodgates to the middle east and fucked us all. The reason they won was because of the EU's (mainly German) immigration policies. Which are at best a lacklustre pipe dream.
>>691457216
The Scottish are so fucking Retarded!
>>691462647
>What are you talking about? American here I thought all of the U.K. Wanted brexit.
Did all of America want Obama to be president because he won the election? Do all Republicans want Trump to run for president because he won the nomination?
>>691458481
It's funny cuz I'm from Mexico and I rather live on London.
It's amazing how the US and Canada get by without an organization that limits their sovereignty, forces them to have open borders, and that they pay billions of dollars towards.
>>691464998
>Your guilt ridden country opened the floodgates to the middle east and fucked us all.
You geogrpahy knowledge is amazing. You 'murrican?
Btw, it was the USA with their botched Iraq invasion that set the events in motion that eventually let to the rise of ISIS.
>>691465027
yeah, the block of 27 countries actually brought prosperity and wealth to people in a country where the elite is fine with shitting over the rest of society
fuck the English
>>691458729
Fuck off euro cucks!
>>691465158
I think everybody in Mexico would rather live somewhere else.
>>691459477
U wot m8? Fkin cunt I'll lay u out.. Shithead
How could Britain stay in the EU
They want some monthly payment
Control of the British Army
Control over our borders
Control over our laws
I truly believe the EU a beautiful idea but the price is too high
On top of that Brussels was warned that we were not happy and having a vote all they had to do will give us a temporary bone and that would persuade the vote
As it stands I strongly believe we should clean up our own back yard before cleaning up our neighbours
>>691465454
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> I'd rather pay more money to British elite rather than the EU gov and get actual investments in return
>>691465346
Lynching of the poor and give the money to rich and powerful? You're such a fucking cuck Retard!
>>691465324
While the Iraq war was mishandled, an early and rushed exit by the Obama administration is what opened up the void for ISIS to fill.
Our own PC restrictions is what causes these issues. We used to much more firmly take control of countries, e.g. South Korea or India, both of which are thriving today. And while there certainly was violence involved and some dramatic transfers of power, neither were ever the total shit hole that Iraq is today.
>>691464998
>The reason they won was because of the EU's (mainly German) immigration policies.
I personally doubt that you know jack-shit about the FRG's immigration policies. What I also think you don't understand is the difference between granting asylum to refugees and immigration.
Anyway blaming Germany and foreigners is a good old coping mechanism in Britain.
>>691465619
Stay mad faggot!
>>691465779
>rushed exit
>10 years
fuck off you dumb shit.
>>691465468
You know that they're awesome places on Mexico right? That's why springbreakers come to Mexico, I live on a capital and it's a very good place, Mexico it's not like seen on the media.
>>691465779
>an early and rushed exit by the Obama administration is what opened up the void for ISIS to fill.
They stayed for over 10 years, you tard. And still they weren't able to stabilize the region.
>>691466044
>Mexico it's not like seen on the media.
Isn't that the same shit the jews say?
>>691465853
We withdrew our troops over a 4 year period you Mongoloid. And yes, it absolutely was rushed and far too early. The area was massively unstable. How fucking oblivious and delusional do you have to he to convince yourself otherwise?
By voting it implies you will abide by the outcome. If you lost then tough titty
You don't get a rematch every time your team loses
>>691464464
Why do the rednecks and the chavs love each other so much?
>>691466172
You gotta be a fucking retard to belive that we are full of sand we ride donkeys and use a fucking big hat.
I love seeing little eurocucks cry it really does feed my ego! Stay mad Scotland Retards!
>>691466271
Obviously you haven't read Harry Potter
>>691466303
Because we're not a bunch of oblivious vaginas whose delusion is only trumped by our indignance.
>>691465853
>10 years
This is how long the Chinese say the rushed trade deal should take.
>>691457216
so now that it's done;
the great experiment carries on.
now that all those foreigners can no longer move throughout europe with relative impunity england becomes a closed system in which the natives are put to the test against the foreign invaders that the EU has forced on them.
how will the natives react once they realize that they are now forced to accept and keep the invaders? how long before the expulsions start? how high will the bodycount go before the gov steps up either forced emmigration or mandatory 'protective custody' for minorities at risk?
will the natives start forcing an ethnic cleansing? i hope so, it could provide some much needed comic relief.
>>691466094
>10 years
We STILL have 30,000 troops in South Korea.
>>691466455
But the things they have in common are being very poor, uneducated and ugly?
>>691466334
>You gotta be a fucking retard to belive that we are full of sand we ride donkeys and use a fucking big hat.
Narco.
>>691465324
>Btw, it was the USA with their botched Iraq invasion that set the events in motion that eventually let to the rise of ISIS.
So, what you're telling me is that your country is cleaning up for America by taking in all the filthy human rejects from the middle east?
Only a country with a guilty conscious would do that and push others to do the same
>>691466589
their annoying fucking accents and the ignorance.
>>691458481
>I'm from London
>leave the uk
Go back to your own country then you fucking nigger
The Scottish will forever be underneath our English boots licking the dog shit of it! Stay mad you little Scot faggots! You will always be our little bitch!
>>691457216
Independent City-State of London when?
>>691466652
FUCK OFF, I live on the capital of narcos(Culiacan) and we fucking hate them, they're fucking retards.
>>691457216
were a torn country. its basicly a 50/50
>>691464091
brudder, i too am german, expatriate to canada
i have to tell you that in this case we have allowed our government to fuck up and fuck us all over.
with the brits out, the germans should be thinking the same.
when a government goes against the welfare of it's country and it's citizens in the name of humanitarianism it is incumbent on the citizen to remove that government from power as a threat to his welfare, liberty, and security.
your move. make it now.
>>691466899
it was 50/50 in england itself pretty much. but most of scotland was 70+% stay
>>691462935
you're a mix of anglo fucking saxons, north germans, normans, romans, and fucking celts genetics have no fucking bearing unless you're inbred like you seem
>>691467172
still pretty much 50/50 for the whole uk
>>691466812
The queen of the United Kingdom lives there.
More likely the wankers... I mean bankers will move to Jersey
>>691465820
>refugees and immigration.
Like the two aren't mutually exclusive. It's still people from one country immigrating to another country. And most of the refugees that do come to the west cannot adapt to our lifestyle and culture.
>>691467172
Yes but most of Scotland want to be British and we're leaving
>>691467416
I love how people think they can stop immigration, like they learned nothing from history. West romans had a grand old time.
>>691465281
Think of your states as countries and your "country" as an organisation.
>>691467500
i thikn they wanted to be british and in the EU. if you had that vote again, outside the EU, they would vote to be independent. .
what about a new republic comprised of a united ireland and scotland that's tin the EU.
>>691466810
ENGLISH MASTER RACE!
>>691467580
you can
that's the kind of policy that your government has to implement at your demand.
if enough brits want to isolate the country the government has no choice.
if the brits want mandatory expulsion of all races other than white, then that can be made to happen too.
any gov that refuses to follow a majority opinion of it's citizens is doomed, and no political party out there wants to lose it's meal ticket.
demand demand demand.
>>691467588
it isn't though, that's the beauty of it. texas will never secede, that's a silly idea. we're a united country.
>>691467944
52% is barely a majority. i woudn't be surprised if there wasn't another vote even on leaving the EU
>>691458729
Samefagging so hard, probably an americunt
>>691466810
Keep talking shit. Within a year, Scotland will become a new state in europe because of your stupidity engfag. Just fucking wait
>>691468062
yes, the british publc would of course be for voting until we got the "right" result
We're a bunch of democracy haters
>>691467967
Exactly, we are too ingrained in the US to leave. I'm a Texan and I scoff at the very idea of leaving.
>>691468400
we just haven't had a decent enemy in a long time. any country, not a shit stain wack jobs cult, attacks us and we will, all of us, band together.
>>691467816
Enjoy the future United Kingdoom with just england and wales, you fucking prick
>>691467944
True it is, but it's sad to look on the outside something so problematic and not wanting to fix it.
The thing is Britain historically was made through immigration, every nation changes through time, immigration even slight brings different opinions, people benefeit from it Britain wouldn't be a superpower hundereds of years ago without immigration and integration of societies. If you even look at romans or every nation in history that accepted foreigners in some capacity benefited.
And UK itself in my country was always looked as a country of multidiversity so, sad really. Hope it will be fine and not a fall of a glorious empire.
>>691460544
Fucking fagatoid british faggot dick suckers. The industrial revolution happened in the UK. If it weren't for us (US) you gits would be speaking Kraut by now and doing the goose step you fucking slime sucking limey bitches. You fagatoids also started slavery so you owe the black people money, not us. Goddam scum you are.
The Brits screwed themselves good. Think about it, all in all Scotland and Northern Ireland leaving wouldn't have been as tragic IF all nations had remained in the EU. Hell, the Brits could have survived even Wales and fucking Cornwall having their go at being independent nations this way... But now? They'll be a fucking micro country forced to "strenghten" it's relations with the "Commonwealth" to survive, basically meaning they'll have to welcome even larger waves of Pakistanis and Indians while the Poles and Germans leave... Who the fuck is going to care about the "City" like that? It's all going to become cheap office space for South Asian corporations and the Brits will pretty much auction what's left of their culture as cheap knock offs for the inhabitants of those countries. Better to pack up and leave for New Zealand while there's still a chance. Ever seen shit tier Britons? England will become just that acting as whores and butlers for their new masters. Their one remaining hope is the EU crumbles so badly their situation becomes normal, doesn't seem likely at the moment, European elites will learn from this mistake. What a pity really, to see the English countryside turned into a palyground for wealthy Middle Easterners... And the punchline to all of this is it will take mere months for a good half of those who voted to leave to bitterly regret their decission. I would indulge in schadenfreude but I actually did like the poor retards all in all, if nothing else they gave us great niche pron.
I supose we will one day visit the ruins of London, it's neoclassic facades not all that different from Roman remains in what are today's Muslim countries and try to mentally block out that dreadful Arabic chanting coming from the minarets to try and imagine what was once a glorious past. I'm sure going to miss those gins...
>>691468810
Calm down americunt, hopefully you'll get killed in this weeks mass shooting and do the rest of the world a service
>scotland breaks from the EU and becomes an independent state
>ireland proposes irish reunification referendum and wins
>engbongs pissed off and invade EU controlled northern ireland
>EUfags pissed off and invade england from the south
>argentina see england weak and retake falklands
>spain claims gibraltar
>commonwealth pissed off that the queens lands are raped left right and centre
>US elects trump
>shitstorm
>somehow russia has to do with this
>china wants in to
>WWIII
>>691468810
I love how much pride you take in something you have not done. You didn't do that your ancestors did that. And that goes both ways you're both idiots. Use hate that is not mine to form opinions that then aren't mine and taking pride in other people's achievments.
>>691468810
>>691469155
Hopefully
>>691469155
>le habbening
>>691467967
That doesn't change the concept, just shows that you've achieved it better than we did, it's only our ridiculous arrogance and scaremongering that even gets people to think leaving would be a good idea.
English people want to be English, Britain got a period when they were on top but no one looks back to how that happened, our whole existence is based on what we achieved through adapting with other cultures.
My granddad was Polish and came over during the war but my dad thinks refugees should be killed instead of being let into a country. a friend of mines mother is Dutch, she moved to England 20 years ago and she wanted us to leave the EU to keep the foreigners out.
I don't understand how it doesn't even take a full generation for people to forget where they came from.
National pride is bullshit, thinking you're worth more because of where you happened to be born/brought up is bullshit.
>>691468810
No the Germans would be speaking Russian and we'd be their closest ally
>>691469810
Not to mention the birth rates in europe are declining really badly. It's a choice really let immigrants in or die out. But ofc people won't make that choice since it's hurr durr so proud of this country I'll let it die out when I'm dead...
>>691469810
I don't care where people come from so long as when they're here they don't try to make it like where they came from
>>691470100
ah yes the idea of races dying out. you're not british, do you get that? you're german. the real brits all got pushed to ireland and scotland and wales. if you're english you're german and the thing you fear happening someday already happened, about 1300 years ago.
>>691470338
your ancestors are german. your ancestors did the exact same thing you're so dead set against to insure that YOU could be here now.
>>691469810
How can you even compare European cultures together with Asian ones like the 'refugess' from Syria, Afria or Pakistans, Indians... The Dutch or Polish as you say in your family as far more able to adjust to the British culture since they share the same European western values.
I rather have a milion Polish or Dutch coming who share the same western values as me than people with a total other culture and way of looking at life.
>>691470100
It's not die out you cuck, population would go down until it became stable. Let's say it's 10% what it is now, that's still millions and sustainable. The only thing you're saving is your living standards by forcing migrants into the lower rungs of the economy and mantaining a large enough workforce YOU can retire in comfort.
Any country would be better with less people in it as the value of each individual would go up, we do have the technology to mantain post industrial civilization without feeding mass numbers of youths into factories. But whatever...
>>691470338
Dude, as fucking... I live in this country we just joined the EU guess what!? People leaving, why? They fucking hate this country they can't find a job or shit. You think muslims running away from fucking psychos with machetes wanna bring that to your country?
We all have seen the vids here on /b/ you really think they wanna bring that here?
Are there evil and intolerant people in the world?
Yes and they will slip through the crack but it will happen anyway you simply can't stop it.
Homegrown terrorists are actually the greatest threats currently and I don't really mean muslim kind.
>>691470632
No no you get me wrong not races dying off don't care about that but nations, your history the history of people before you they deserve to be remembered though not worshipped.
And there are no real British everyone is mixed these days kinda made me thing when I did a gene analasys and found out I have mongol blood a Czech Croat.
>>691465099
Yes?
>>691471061
You do realize yes it will become stable but a country needs growth you need to expand in every area constantly. Not to mention a lower population would mean giant economic changes and lack of workforce not to mention strife as well it will need a lot of balancing so no I don't mean die out in a literal sense so I do apologize, die out as in you're trying to protect your values which anti-immigration people propagate which will die out if you slowly die out with it, it will have to change sooner or later isn't it better sooner when you're more capable?
Also just to say I'm anti immigration and anti anti immigration, both stances are bullshit there should be good regulations not extremes.
>>691465779
>Political correctness is the biggest problem facing the world today.
It's an annoyance nothing more.
>>691470720
What 1500 years ago? Nah they just came over here cos the Romans left
>>691472045
It is more than an annoyance though, I'd rather see what politicians really think to make my decision. I wanna see their true face instead of look at my perfect family and no comment on other days.
>>691466549
And if we didn't, Kim Jong would have his way with them.
>>691470739
Adaptation isn't instant, we can take people in and we might not even see the benefits in our lifetime but that doesn't mean that we should quit.
Look back a couple of hundred years and we're just as bad, we expelled Jews from England based on our misunderstanding of their culture/religion and the lies that were spread. I think what led to the expulsion happened where I live where a little boy was found dead in a well and Jews were accused of using him as a sacrifice.
Now they're incorporated in society and doing good stuff, there's no need for hate and fear when we can work together to make the world a better place, don't like people coming over here? We need to work to make their homes safer, bring the world together not split it apart.
>>691466549
Theyre not an occupying force though. They're basically there to say hey North Korea if you do anything USA is gonna be here to help South Korea retaliate
>>691470739
Funny enough people only realize that in hindsight. Trump will build a wall to keep out the last, and fast dwindling, wave of Cristian Western migrants his country will ever get. After that is all Muslims, Indians and Africans... That's where most of their LEGAL migration comes from.They'll be begging for Chinese migrants...
No country really needs migration as long as you're willing to accept that after industrialization there comes a decline as demographics adjust to new conditions. Except developed countries have become adicted to unsustainable high living standars which they can only mantain through migration, it's the only way to keep their economies growing with aging populations. So because those alive today will absolutely refuse to scarifice rather than their chgildren inheriting countires with excess housing, infrastructure and sustainibly low population levels each worker is very valuable and tech based societies can be created, what they'll get is countries devoid of culture and full of dangerous ideologies klike Islam, which still will, sooner or later, face the very same conundrum of aging populations.
Russia, Latin America and maybe some parts of western European nations may still be in time to learn this lesson, the rest of the West has pretty much fucked itself over.
>>691465619
10% out of 100% return. 90% completely gone.
Thats some "Return Investment"
>>691472454
And? Why do people act xenophobic we are all human cultural traditions don't override that. An average muslim thinks killing is wrong, average chinese same, average christian same. Average is normal bad people come from any culture any race. Same with all other human traits.
>>691471941
No man, you could be like Iceland, Switzerland or New Zealand, focus on quality of life rather than economic growth by any means. There is a generation that will have to sacrifice, yes, but you don't have to rule the world. Developed countries consume more than their fair share of natural resources while most people in the world do without, their life standards are not sustainable. Your approach ins't mercy for the rest of the world, it's just self inetrest of not wanting to adjust to decline in your lifetime.Hope your children enjoy sharia.
>>691472454
yes, i have zero problems with mexicans. their kids will speak english just like every american. none of them want the US to be like mexico.
>>691468296
You Mad.
>>691472202
that isn't political correctness, asshole. that's pandering. pandering is much worse.
>>691472849
I actually live in an almost all white country.
Immigrants don't want to come here. I have find out through living here the true face of xenophobia here. And seeing other more developed countries go in our direction is honestly sick as fuck people here since we joined the eu are leaving on masse and not the poor people educated doctors going away because there is no future here.
>>691468790
Stay Mad
>>691473258
We do not want all the non English to go away, you just do not want to let in untold amounts of immigrants who are possibly terrorists/rapists/extreme islamists etc etc
>>691473194
True, I apologize. I got them mixed up. I am not a native speaker in my language we use the same word for that kinda thing. No excuses though.
>>691472845
No man, there's key differences. An average Muslim treats his wife in a matter that would be considered cruel to animals in the West, he think gays and atheists should be executed and that those with other beliefs should live as Dhimis under governments that uphold his religious precepts. Look at the Pew polls and all the information that's out there, not all ideologies are "equivalent", there's plenty of racism and savagery in cultures that have not adopted Western traditions such as human rights. Yes, those don't come from indidgenous peoples they're a result of Western tradition much the same as science, philosopphy, the fine arts, history or critical thinking. Some cultured peoples, say East Asians, have adopted these with near minimal conflict, others have beliefs that put them in violent oposition. The sole fact that ALL Muslims will seek to advance theocratic institutions like Sharia makes them a dnager to the rest of humanity. Go and live in a fucking Muslim country for a couple of years THEN come back and tell us is "the same"
>>691461563
Your not english , you are a fucking discrace a coward and a greedy selfish little cunt
Yours the rest of England
>>691466429
>Implying the UK will stay whole
>>691473481
Yes that's true in a way but there are bad people the amount of terrorist attacks from sleeper cells has been minimum compared to serial killers, rapists and standard murders from inside the country. You are always at risk it is true we need effective ways of dealing with immigration but we can't forget when you deny a human you're denying the human you might come to a same situation where people want to cut your head off and you want to run away but they accuse you of being the same. It's all people you deny one good man well...it's a complicated issue.
>>691473258
Which one? Doesn't sound like one of those I mentioned. Eastern Europe? You don't think there's a reason people are leaving?
Mexico has one of the best living standards in the world outside of developed countries. It's a lot better than China or Russia. Those at the bottom still move to the US to try and improve their lives, it's only human nature. So Eastern Europeans can sacrifice for a lifetime for their kids to have a better life or just enjoy it ready made moving to the West. There's a reason they live, not agreeing with them but it's rational. And it's not about race, East Asians do integrate into Western societies for instance. It's about toxic ideologies and beliefs.
>>691460024
And this is why im cleverer than you ...
Borrow a million today and as sure as your a cunt in 10 years time that million is devalued to the point its now worth 100,000 . So to borrow fuckloads of worth from other country`s means fuck all as its the point where it gets paid back that matters and most debts to be paid back in decades .....
moron
>>691473655
Less than 200 years ago Gay sex was punishable by death in the UK.
Less than 100 years ago the Nazis were killing minorities in droves.
Segregation in America ended 60 years ago.
Don't act like we're better than others just because we wised up to the atrocities we committed earlier, some of these places don't consider the fact that there's another way to live life, if your brought up in a culture where something is done a certain way you don't question it till you see the outside.
A few years ago the younger population in Egypt started to get more easy access to the internet and see that the world isn't what it seems, people shouldn't be treated in the way they have done before, there were mass clashes, the army were called in. It was scary shit for anyone involved, people were gathering together to protect their neighbourhoods. There will always be competition to change and it's generally the people in power that will try and quash any changes because it's their way of life.
Change is hard, it takes time, we need to push for a better world through equality.
>>691461563
>>691461634
>>691462795
Are you completely stupid ? The EU is on its knees anyway ONLY UK and Germany were paying cash IN ! This round of bail-outs is Greece , Italy , Portugal and Spain. How the fuck can this carry on ? Even the UK's debit is increasing by MILLIONS of pounds an HOUR yet we are still expected to pay for Greek pensions and Spanish roads. France will leave next followed by Germany. Watch RT instead of the hopelessly BIASED BBC !!! Germany regularly has rioting on the streets. Even if we did go back in to the EU what happens when Germany pulls out, We pay for everything?
It was an experiment but the bureaucrats simply got too greedy and powerful and ultimately fucked it up. ITS OVER , IT DID NOT WORK , LET IT DIE.
All you London wank stains seem to care about is the "CITY" ie. Banking ? Well Switzerland seem to do OK , they have the highest standard of living in the civilized world , IT NEVER WAS IN EU !!! IT NEVER HAD EURO !!! Guess what , it is the real banking capitol of the fucking world and i bet you do not even know the name of their currency without googling it !
Get the fuck over it and start working for the future of the country instead of your greedy selves and your horrible shit stain of a city.
>>691474171
When your country gets invaded by religious extremists what do you do? run away or fight?
>>691475125
Not entirely disagreeing with you, but this doesn't mean the West is a saviour or that better off societies should sacrifice for the rest, that is itself racist and conceited. And the Muslim world is certainly not a few decades away from changing. The problem is real and now. Meanwhile the future does call for a sustainable model, Western countries continuing to greedily exploit the world's resources while they absorb migrants is not it.
>>691475647
invaded or come in legally? of course if invasion is happening they need to be fought.
>>691475873
Which is what happened to middle eastern countries, they had a chance to fight and they ran, and they didnt stop running until they found enough benefits to make their lives easy without doing anything for it.
>>691473272
its gonna be so great watching this backfire on you. cant wait
>>691476108
you talking what? the arabs, pre-muslim? a thuosand years ago?
>>691476311
The truth doesn't backfire.
>>691476311
it's already backfired. so many searches for what the EU actually is. these morons who have never left england are already scared.
>>691476398
The middle eastern countries have had problems for ages and they ran from it instead of fighting for what they believe in, then they run to European countries and try to push their way of life on us. They blame us for them not standing up for their own country.
>>691476311
Just wait until they realize there are more muslims than ever. "i thought the brexit would get rid of all muslims"
bah ha ha ha the fools
>>691476590
give me an example. i don't know what the fuck you're talking about. isis? it's not an invasion when it comes from within your own country and people. wtf are yuo talking about?
>>691476598
>>691476480
Immigration control on our terms means more unwanted migrants?
gg well played
>>691457216
Because, unfortunately, Scotland is home to rather a lot of butthurt uneducated cretins who teach their children and grandchildren to do exactly the opposite of the English and to hate them with a fiery passion because of William Wallace and Robert the Bruce and some other ancient horse shit.
There are some sane people in Scotland who don't hold a grudge but they are often outshouted and outscreamed by Glaswegian heroin addicts who believe that their lack of monetary riches is because of privileged English people and that the English alive today are the same people who did whatever they did to their ancient ancestors.
I live in a council house in Manchester and spent a fair amount of time on Jobseekers Allowance, had a shitty upringing and zero education but if I go to Glasgow I'm a privileged Englishman who destroyed their country and I'm the reason that they are drug addicts and so on. It's funny because they actually get free university, prescriptions, bus passes etc. and I have to pay for all of my shit so really I should be the one complaining.
I think if they asked the English rather than the Scottish if we should split then they'd finally get their 'yes' vote. We are getting very tired of their constant moaning, whining and whinging when they have more than the average other British citizen. The Welsh get free prescriptions and shit and seem happy for it. No incessant complaining. The loyalists in NI live in abject misery and are still solid. They are really an amazing example of solidarity and unity.
This 60% of Scottish moaners... I don't even know where to begin. I'm sorry that some English peoples ancestors however many hundreds of years ago did what people have done throughout history since the dawn of man and what you would have done to them had you had more manpower at the time. Please forget it now, for the love of God. You are becoming crying angsty teen Ronaldo: The country.
>>691476590
When your country gets "invaded" by a bunch of racist, isolationists do you stay and fight or do you just lie down and take it? Do you mix their martinis or do you head for the hills?
>>691476783
unwanted by you, yes.
>>691476689
They are invading Europe, you can try your hardest to not sound racists but they are slowly taking control of your countries. I will be laughing when its too late to stop it.
Europe enjoys being cucks so its no surprise really, England is not the same.
>>691476783
it does if you have no leverage. the EU has way more leverage than the UK, even if you're not part of it.
>>691476910
Why did the majority vote leave?
gg no re
>>691477001
>cuck
oh well you just lost any credibility you had. sorry.
>>691475796
By no means do I think we're a saviour, we're still just as bad and it's proved by how we act towards these people, we're treating them differently because of how they act, we criminalise and generalise them.
The point I'm trying to get at is just because somebody does something differently to you doesn't mean they're bad. The people that are leaving are doing so for a reason and there are going to be some that hold onto the old values.
I don't believe that people are just coming over here for our benefits, I know quite a few people that have come to the UK from other countries and the majority of them are incredibly hard workers just trying to provide for their families and give them a better life.
>>691477135
Using 1 word in an argument to quit an argument.
who lost?
>>691477121
just because you personally don't want a certain minority immigrating doesn't mean the people in charge, who actually make the decisions, are aligned with your wants. get it now dummy?
>>691477225
you did. that word tells us all we need to know about you.
>>691466812
Westeros is just Britain mirrored, you fucking retard.
>>691477321
You mad, stay mad, be mad forever.
I dont hate Muslims, i dont hate the EU, i hate being told what to do by College students with no idea how shit the world is outside their little safe spaces. You dont understand the gravity of the situation.
>>691477506
the north remembers
>>691477546
not mad. just don't care to discuss it with the likes of someone like you. it's pretty simple.
>>691477173
you speak like a college liberal who lacks any experience in the real world or understanding of human psychology or behavior. There are absolute "goods". and it is right to judge anyone for their failure to meet that standard.
These people that you say we "don't like" cause they do things differently, Are not assimilating to our culture. They are creating dish cities, demanding the imposition of sharia law. They have come to our island for a reason, there is nothing unreasonable in expecting them to adapt to our way of like.
Even in this thread it's becoming increasingly clear that the British have just royally screwed themselves.
The only question that remains is: how many immigrants are we going to send their way, guys? 200k by the end of the year?
>>691477682
Someone like me? Nice generalisation. You argument is failing harder than the EU.
>>691477699
We wont take them derp
>>691477546
Why do you not hate the EU? Its a group of politicians who are accountable to no one.
Their entire mandate is to facilitate corporations and the destruction of individual nation culture.
>>691477774
it's a statement of fact, not an argument
>>691466812
>>691477506
>>691476805
10/10 factual answer
a lot of scots are just thick as fuck
>>691477868
it's not an end to immigration dummy. if you thought it was you were duped by ambiguous wording. the powerful and rich people need immigrants. poor shits like you aren't going to stop it.
>>691477869
I meant i dont have Europe, Didnt write it properly
>>691477868
You don't have that power though, Fagrage lied to you.
>>691478017
We will take those who will actually contribute to society. No more, No Less.
Dat feel.. in 20 years when mainland europe is a muslim shit hole where women can't walk out in a skirt or ride in the same tube car, and the UK is a beacon of greatness and liberty
>>691478170
that's what YOU want them to do. you're too stupid to see the difference.
>>691478056
I am aware of Farage being a liar, but because we are leaving the EU he is obsolete anyway.
>>691478170
How about you start with getting rid of all the pure born English that don't contribute to society?
>>691478181
>being this delusional
kys
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>>691478250
Sorry i forgot you are the Super Power in this world telling everyone what they can and cant do.
>>691478366
Thanks for reinforcing my point, we already have enough scum in this country, we dont want more.
>>691475150
>considers BBC biased enough to write it out in caps
>suggests watching RT
even though i personally have nothing against considering multiple international news trying to get an overall better picture this is where i stopped reading your post. you've got to be fucking baiting you retard
>>691478456
I'm telling you the people in power in the UK do not agree with what YOU a lowly little dirt-poor hillbilly want.
>>691475150
>The EU is on its knees anyway ONLY UK and Germany were paying cash IN
Be quiet, moron.
>>691457216
No more Union Jack flag.
HAhahahahaha
Idiots.
>>691478702
when the UK falls, which dates to early 1700s, that will make the USA one of the oldest countries. how sad.
TL;DR
are the britbongs realy that stupid?
>>691477506
does that make ireland the iron islands? pretty close huh
>>691478616
Americunt confirmed. You dont know anything because you live in USA.
Its funny how to people in power were divided on the issue. Just shows again how little you know.
>>691478985
you were lied to repeatedly. you just don't realize it yet. everywhere else already knows. it's sad. never pretended to not be from the US.
>>691479133
Ok so, lets get down to raw facts.
Show me the evidence that all what you are saying is true.
(Also why are you in this thread, its about the UK)
note the relevant date
>>691478683
This is a total and not per head france and italy pay more but are much bigger country's with a much larger population. Also its payments in ONLY , Greece and all others take far more out did you get this off BBC site ? Fuckin tard
>>691479314
i happen to visit a lot and i like it there. but truth is i like dublin better than london. will probably just fly rigjht to dublin from now on.
here's yuor first lie
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/24/nigel-farage-350-million-pledge-to-fund-the-nhs-was-a-mistake/
>>691467580
move to Australia right now then. Or the USA, Or Canada
tell me how hospitable they are to an unskilled faggot like yourself
>>691479418
so provide those figures if you are so confident that they will help your argument. my bet is they dont
>>691465324
Who was that one guy that said if he were removed Europe would get fucked by terrorists ?
ITT: brexitards experiencing cognitive dissonance
>>691477682
I know exactly the type of person you are
Trying to hide their ignorance and stupidity behind smug comments
>>691458481
Good. Fuck off then.
>>691476805
>>691476805
>>691476805
/thread
Scots voted stay because English didn't
>>691457216
because sometimes you are strongest by yourself, sometimes you need to take a step back and focus/rely on yourself, make yourself stronger.
>>691479476
This one was not actually said by nigel farage but by one of his party members without his consent. It was not an official statement.
>>691479314
here's your next lie
https://fullfact.org/immigration/eu-migration-and-uk/
most immigrants over the last few decades weren't even from within the EU. staying in the EU would still allow you to control those numbers. no one has ever put them at 0 did they?
>>691477695
I probably do lack understanding of human psychology and I like to believe the best in people.
What are you scared of with Sharia Law? They would still have to abide by our laws, sharia is a religious thing not government and as far as I'm aware the people that want it want it to be used in their disputes among themselves.
"Immigrants" come over here, "Ex Patriots" go elsewhere and they make their communities and live how they want to live. Brits will go into countries where their residents aren't allowed to drink or live in excess, they'll go there to make more money than they can at home and they'll expect to be able to live as they did over here to an extent.
You're just doing what I'm saying people are doing. They do it and it's bad, we do it and it's just a thing.
>>691479608
I do not have to , common sense telly you that everybody does not pay into something and nobody takes anything out ? Why would Greece pay all that money in then ask for a bail-out ? We could all find 1000's of different graphs showing all kinds of shit but even a moron must realize the money in has to go somewhere ?
>>691479418
It's based on GDP, how is it surprising or shocking when taxation works the very same way for wealthier individuals, counties or states virtually everywhere around the globe, redistributing wealth where it's needed so the whole block keep growing and socioeconomically prosperous?
You've been doing the same thing when coal mining died out in Britain for example, you fucking retard.
And here you are whining, "muh monies", even though the UK enjoyed several iniquitous advantages and exceptions for the last 35 years when the rest of Europe followed the rules.
England out of the EU is the best thing that could have happened to the European Union, it's been sabotaging it from the inside ever since it joined.
Now you'll just be able to watch the decisions made without you. Enjoy.
>>691480301
yeah most of the lies will be done by subordinates so they can deny responsibility later. it's a tactic we're well acquainted with in the US.
>>691480400
Yes but we have to comply with EU regulations on the matter. Which is the opposite of what has been voted for.
>>691480573
this
>>691480573
I will actually agree with you on that. But i never heard that statement, and it did not effect my voting choice.
>>691479314
One thing that will probably happen is that making it harder for british citizens to work in eruopean countries will, naturally, limit the number of immigrants brought in. and you're probably ok with that since you don't intend on ever leaving west yorkshire or whatever.
but something tells me there will be pretty liberal treaties to replace the EU ease of movement. it will be al ittle more difficult probably but not enough to change the need for immigrants to replace the people leaving.
>>691480403
So we let them stone women to death and kill gays and non-muslims ? We let them kill other muslims simply for questioning their faith ? My guess is there is not a mosque within a few miles of where you live ? Wait until there is and when you put an England flag in your car or house window to show support for our football team in Euro's they put your windows through (as does happen regularly around here). Wait until your council has no money because all the muslims declare one room of the house a prayer room and avoid paying council tax (see Dewsbury)
>>691457216
I'm scottish and mudslims need to
go.
We don't need unity. I'd rather be able to walk around and not see a corner shop, take away or turkish barber at every corner of the street.
In my street there are two competeing turkish barbers right beside each other and three corner shops.
Not to mention since the wave of mudslims that has came in over the years we have nothing but peasant food compared to other countries because of this and the limitations of the EU, paying farmers not to grow produce. And they wonder why the UK population is obese and look like white-arabs with their haircuts and clothing they buy from the foreign stores
Fuck the EU
>>691460351
Nice, you saw and based everything you know about the EU on a facebook post. I'm pretty sure with a referendum coming up, people will more likely search google to increase their knowledge about the referendum, which is why the search results are high. Shut up you complete batty.
fucking hell one europe would be great. imagine the european national football team. we would kill everybody
>>691481124
this x17.000.000
>>691480706
no you do not. not for immigration from outside the EU. you only had to comply with EU citizen immigration, which admittedly would be a problem since you don't know what shit country was doing the checking. but as far as non-eu immigration, nothing will change except numebrs will likely increase. they'll have to.
>>691459098
No, we fucking gave them a change to leave, fuckers are staying with us now.
>>691480547
This would be a fine idea as i said but this is not what is happening is it ! We do not play by the same rules as proven by the usual example of the retirement age ! We are now expected to work until 65+ while Greeks retire at 50. Oh and they do not have to pay tax..... Why should they , our government will simply give them our tax money ? Yup brilliant system ?
>>691481412
i seem to remember the US doing better than england not so long ago. sad.
Because half our country is full of unpatriotic euro cucks. I honestly don't care, if those retards want to be the the bureaucratic EU rather than Westminster than then that's up to them cucks.
>>691481584
it must hurt to be beaten by a country whose population is largely unaware they have a national soccer team.
>>691457216
because bigots
>>691481412
> we would kill everybody
sure, yuro-fucktards are the only ones playing what you call "football".
soccer is for pussies.
>>691481584
well then the British are consistently proving they are a bunch of faggots. It's all about Ze Germans anyway.
>>691480706
here's another source
http://infacts.org/mythbusts/leave-camps-australian-system-wont-hit-migration-target/
do you agree at least that immigration won't disappear? now that you realize non-eu was at least as much and mostly double in the last decade, do you see now that immigrants won't disappear from your streets?
>>691481480
They become EU citizens and migrate over here. Free Movement etc.
Also we can always exclusively control the right who comes in and who doesn't, and we are already allowing viable non-eu citizens in.
The problem is the EU is telling us what to do.
>>691481700
This has to be the most irreverent post to a thread in the world ever , but to be fair it does mention Europe.....
>>691481124
Shit, I mist have missed all the news stories about people getting stoned to death, that's not what this pertains to and even if it was WE WOULDN'T ALLOW IT, there can be compromises that leaves both sides happy.
We're just getting a mosque actually, I work with a few muslims and they're pretty cool. Have you ever considered that your windows might be getting put through because you're the type of person that believes all the shit that the media tells you about people instead of making up your own mind and you push that prejudice onto people causing rifts in society?
Shit a cut in council tax because they have a prayer room? That's disgusting. /sarcasm I can get a council tax cut from living in a house on my own, I can get help with paying my rent if I lose my job.
>>691481704
yeah exactly. soccer is making inroads in the US but mostly so parents don't have to worry about fucking bran injuries for their kids.
>>691481385
Those are the stats from the day after the referendum, not the day before
>>691461274
>join EU
>independence
Your stupidity is shocking.
EU = GOVERNING BODY.
GOVERNMENT.
Being in the EU is not independence, you dense cunt.
>>691481942
there are two sources of immigration.
EU immigrants
and non-EU immigrants.
yes, the EU immigrants will have to, if they really want to go the UK, have to go through non-eu immigrant channels.
non-eu immigration won't change at all. it was more than EU and it could have been changed at any time but it wasn't.
>>691481909
>>691480400
How do we know these websites are accurate?
>>691481700
See, we fucking pwn. Damn, I want a federation right nao! Fuck the British, we got bigger fish to fry bois!
>Be the EU
>Pay farmers not to grow produce
>Allow a flood of immigrants into UK to abuse the system
>Give mudslims a years free business rent, house rent, access to goods
>Uk population get nothing for free, must wait 1 year after opening own business with hard earned money to gain grants
>tfw no white people businesses in Scotland
>tfw all business in UK sre foreign
>Tfw all food stores are foreign and shit pig food
>Tfw UK population is obese because they eat like arab pigs
>Tfw you realised ehat happened to the good ol' farm produce
>Tfw that is shipped to other countries in the EU and we are left with shit peasant food
>Tfw multiculturalism is more like spot the white man
>>691481967
Shit a cut in council tax because they have a prayer room?
No they pay none as the building is a place of worship.
We're just getting a mosque actually.
Great , i really hope it goes like all the other places once infestation reaches around 10% , no doubt you will be on here bitching in a year or 2 !
>>691482224
oh come on man. really? i guess it's a good sign. if they are accurate, you'd know you were duped right? just keep that in mind.
>>691482193
We still didnt just let anybody in, they still had proper checks done on them. Thats why we havent been shot up or blown up as much as other countries.
>>691482235
Agree on all counts except the food.
Remove kebab, except literal kebab.
>>691482165
They'll be an independent country which is part of a bigger conglomerate, they'll have more say over their parts of the UK than they currently do.
>>691481967
Woah? People who want something from you act nicely around you? That's all the evidence I need!
>>691482478
I like kebab, but we can make our own kebab, man
We're nutrious for sheep
>>691482294
I probably will be but I imagine it's more likely to be about the "Proud, True, Englishmen"
>>691459232
Found the commie
>>691482224
herr you can go here and create your own graph
http://www.migrationwatchuk.org/statistics-net-migration-statistics/#create-graph
keep in mind the EU immigration also includes smelly frenchmen and dour germans. you may not want those either. but i think to get a better count you can disregard EU-14 countries. maybe some will be added as moving to france and then heading to the UK but most will be from shittier countries int he EU further east
>>691481580
Blame yourself for it, as England have been opposing every social, fiscal and political reform within the EU ever since it joined and prevented such a consistency to happen.
You only reap what you sow.
Now that you finally made it possible with your retarded referendum, you'll watch it happen from afar while being left alone for the rest of the world to fuck you over.
>>691482435
sure, doesn't change the fact that you will still have a shitload of immigrants on your streets. abnd of course some of them will sneak by. some bad people will just be visiting too.
>>691482344
Yeh but anyone can make a website and by a domain. Its not exactly an official resource.
England has a history of divide, conquer and destroy.
>i believe a united eu is humanity's only hope of survival.
>so im happy English sxum are out and cant destroy eu from within..
>hope endland gets cancer n dies in a fire (excluding london)
>>691482913
the numbers match up
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36382199
"The most recent official figures put net migration from EU countries at 184,000 a year and non-EU at 188,000"
which is this year's. but previously non-EU was a lot higher than EU.
>>691457216
what do you think happens when you have a bunch of inbred idiots make decisions?
As an american who bought options on the pound ahead of Brexit, I'm very happy that you guys voted leave.
You're pretty fucked though, lol.
>>691482165
Not being in the EU means you'll be culturally, politically and economically raped by China and the US in a forseeable future, maybe even India and the Middle-east at some point.
You'll lose everything you have to lose because you're not a dominant power able to fend for itself anymore in a globalised world.
Rather than uniting with people you share fundamental principles and values with, you have decided to open your own wrists.
Enjoy your demise.
>>691480403
The realization that there are people like you is what makes me skeptical of liberal politics. You're more inclined to make sweeping generalizations along racial lines than most conservatives.
>You're just doing what I'm saying people are doing
Why are you conflating an individual with a very small minority? Expats are a rounding error compared to immigration.
There's a practical matter to be considered--no country or group of countries have the wherewithal to absorb all the problems of the world without destroying themselves, and in fact a lot of problems in the world were caused by white people who meant well trying to educate the poor savages and move them towards "equality"--whatever that means.
