There was a shooting in germany and no one died. There may not have even been anyone wounded.
Why? Because the shooter could not get his hands on an assault weapon.
Period.
>>691137266
That wasn't because the Shooter couldn't get an Assault weapon, that was because the Shooter was retarded.
>>691137266
Derp
>>691137442
we don't know his mental state but we know for sure he didn't have a weapon designed to kill as many people as posible.
I know this is bait, but assault weapon doesn't even really mean anything
>>691137565
why? just because it wasn't defined in the 1980s in a way that would ensure the gun sellers sell as many guns as possible? who cares about that shit definition. it's not a good definition, clearly.
>>691137442
No matter, in Germany we kill the retarded.
>>691137701
No I mean it literally doesn't mean anything. Tell me, what is an assault weapon?
>>691137266
Or maybe because he just didn't shoot anyone. Could be either I guess.
>>691137846
a weapon designed to be used by the military to kill as many people as possible not for hunting or self defense. you don't need to kill a lot of people for self defense and you won't be "hunting" a pack of deer all lined up to drink at the lake.
>>691137442
you do realize assault weapons are banned in the U.S. right or are you just a retard who believe everything they see
>>691137266
Kills 6 million Jews, legally.
Brags about stopping the murder of 20, unironically.
>>691138054
God damn I hope this is bait.
>>691138054
You do know the AR-15 is just a semi-automatic rifle designed for civilian use, right? The Orlando shooter could have done the same thing with literally any semi-auto rifle.
>>691137266
Maybe there was no shooter and the whole thing was just practice
>>691137266
Thanks for showing me that there is still a reason for abortions op.
>>691138102
no assautlt rifles, as defined by the gun makers int he 80s are banned. but this restrictive definition leaves a lot of guns that terrorist can use out of the equation.
anyting not used for hunting should be tightly controlled to keep it out of the hands of crazies.
>>691138102
fuck i messed up i meant assault rifle
>>691138381
orlando shooter did not use a ar-15 faggot.learn how to tell guns apart. he used a sig.
>>691138464
yes i clearly stated here>>691138485 that i messed up
>>691138464
AR-15 is not an assault rifle. It's a semi-auto designed for civilian use.
An assault weapon is any weapon used for assault purposes. I.e. Assault knife, assault spork, assault fists.
>>691138381
yeah exactly, let's get tighter controls for all semi-auto weapons. thank you for agreeing with me.
>>691138464
AR-15 is not an assault rifle, it's a semi-auto designed for civilian use.
>>691138626
clearly AFTER my comment you stupid fuck
>>691138637
>>691138595
who cares? you see that shootings can end in a civilized matter with minimal casualties. unfortunately, america is not one of these places and you know your country sucks. go shoot someone
>>691137266
heh, the company i work for in berlin has its headquarter in that city.
>>691138102
I didn't even say anything about Assault weapons not being banned in U.S.
>>691138690
assault sporks, knives and fists have other uses besides just killing large amount of human beings.
well no shit no one got killed, he shot at the ceiling.
>>691138464
>anyting not used for hunting should be tightly controlled
First you forgot the h in anything and second, have you ever hunted? or know how to even shoot? .223 is used for varmint and .308 is used for bigger game such as deer. both of wish the AR platform uses, learn something instead of speaking out of your ass.
>>691138054
What you're referring to is an assault rifle, which are highly regulated in the US, unless it was made before 1986.
>>691138776
actually the time stamp is 10 seconds so i would have had to type fast as shit to make it after you said it
>>691138755
who cares about a shit definition that only favors the gun makers. it's a weapon used solely for assault and it needs to be controlled.
ar-5 was not used in orlando anyway. get your facts straight.
>>691138860
And so do firearms
>>691137266
there was a MASS STABBING in china. 33 people died, 100+people wee injured. the assailant didnt have a gun. or anything like that. BUT.. the media didn't cover that, didn't they.
>>691138974
no i; not. i don't give a fuck about a shit definition that was made to protect gun makers.
>>691138825
well if you have been following this cock sucker >>691138776
you would realize i made a mistake
>>691138992
but why would you imagine i saw your response from the future? that's what makes you dumb
>>691139125
yeah, some of them. not the assautl weapons designed only to kill a bunch of human beings.
>>691139215
i never said that you had fore sight i am just saying that i realized and corrected my error. ya didnt need to be a dick about it
>>691138903
yes, i've hunted. i've never used a semi-automatic gun to hunt. doing so is proabbly reserved for insane rednecks just fucking around pretending their big shots.
>>691139477
i wasn't even calling you out on it. i knew what you meant, some shit definitino from the 80s designed to allow gun manufactures to sell the most guns possible.
>>691138860
Idk, cereal killers use assault spoons
>>691139490
Please tell me you're not this stupid. For the love of God please let this be bait. Do you even know the difference between a "assault weapon" and a semi-auto weapon?
>>691139670
yes, imagine a spoon that would allow you to eat from the most numebr of cereal bowls possible at the same time. meanwhile if you use it on just one cereal bowl that bowl gets ruined.
>>691139135
Know your guns, a weapon that is selective fire, and with more power than a regular pistol and less than a .458 mag is assault weapon
>>691139490
>>691139927
any semi-auto is an assault weapon. not all of them are "assault rifles" as defined by the shitty 80s definition. but that definition is useless for this discussion.
>>691139130
He had an assault knifle.
>>691139490
G8 b8 m8
>>691139583
actually i think "a rapid-fire, magazine-fed automatic rifle designed for infantry use." is a pretty good definition of assault rifle and assault weapon's is "Assault weapon is a term used in the United States to define some types of firearms. The definition varies among regulating jurisdictions, but usually includes semi-automatic firearms with a detachable magazine and a pistol grip, and sometimes other features such as a flash suppressor or barrel shroud." i think the assault weapon definition is very broad making it actually quiet easy to regulate
>>691139490
Warning: bait
>>691139490
Cringed at your feeble attempt to bait.
>>691139130
can't help you if the chinese can't stop a single man with a paltry knife. they're obviously cowards. how long would that faggot last pulling a knife on a bunch of gay hispanic men in florida? 30 seconds?
>>691138974
highly regulated?
>>691139490
Wow. Just wow.
>>691140103
So a pistol is a assault weapon... Got it thanks for clearing up how retarded and dense you are.
>>691140103
>any semi-auto is an assault weapon
>assault weapon
A made up term by democrats in the early 1990's to support Clinton's firearms ban. learn your shit kid
>>691139490
Jesus christ the cringe!
>>691140108
kekkles
>>691140103
actually not true an SKS is considered a carbine and its semi auto
>>691139490
Omg wow so retarded bruv
>>691139490
KYS nigger
>>691140191
yes, i like that definition of assault weapon. let's go with it. control that shit. keep them out of the hands of terrorists.
>>691140317
he meant assault rifle
>>691138322
yeah but he killed jews you cant compare that to normal human beings
"Assault weapon is a term used in the United States to define some types of firearms. The definition varies among regulating jurisdictions, but usually includes semi-automatic firearms with a detachable magazine and a pistol grip, and sometimes other features such as a flash suppressor or barrel shroud."
Thanks goggle
>>691140317
yes fully auto guns are highly regulated unless moded after purchase or you have the licence for it
>>691140481
Quick, whats a barrel shroud, and how does it make a weapon more dangerous
>>691138381
>Hurr, the AR-15 is just a semi-automatic rifle designed for civilian use
The man who designed the AR15 said himself the gun was intended only for military use only
>>691138595
It's built on an AR platform fuckwit.
See, this right here is why it's important to get sufficient range time folks. It really helps improve your K/D ration.
>>691140540
Right, but didn't some crazy dude shoot up a bunch of feggles? Would tighter regulations have prevented that? I don't know.
>>691140481
that is the definition numb nuts
>>691140832
exactly. it's pretty obvious which guns you should be using to hunt and which ones you wouldn't have out there.
>>691139490
Faggot Alert
>>691141077
so let's control that shit. in germany it's not allowed at all. i think we can control it in the US. we just need an overhaul
What a bunch of faggots.
>>691140702
That would make sense. So what did the dude use in Orlando? If it were assault or even semi-auto then is that a reflection on the stringency of regulations? Would he have had a more difficult time purchasing the weapon otherwise? I want to know opinions.
>>691138054
kek you cityfags have no idea what the real world is like
>>691140640
>"assault weapon"
>magazine feed
>has a pistol grip
>can attach stuff to the barrel
>hurrrr durrr
So literally almost every fucking firearm know to man. Let's just go back to six shooters and lever action rifles and defend ourseleves with that. We'll see how well that goes.
>>691140987
yes, clearly this guy being investigated for assault, being called in by his mussie buddies about wanting to shoot up the school. clearly we need to keep the guns out of the hands of people like him.
>>691140987
no because assault rifles are highly regulated in the united states>>691140191 this is the definition of both rifle/weapon
>>691141107
You've obviously only experienced hunting by watching TV shows inside of your house. The AR platform is useful in all kinds of situations you might experience hunting or camping, and none of those include pledging allegiance to a terrorist organization or shooting fags.
>>691137266
the shooter died ;)
>>691141107
I hunt with an ar15. 5 round mag. It really light, very accurate, and its ergonomics cannot be beat. Being semi-auto, it allows for rapid follow up shot to ensure the animal does not suffer unduly if my first shot isn't perfect.
What now faggots
>>691141171
No, this is too awesome.
>>691141341
no you can buy them. but you will have to pass some tests and background checks and when you do something violent or make threats, you may lose them.
>>691141171
>we just need an overhaul
When you start with the illegal guns and the people that use them and enforce the hundreds of laws against gun crime, then we can talk about new laws and overhaul.
>>691141421
yeah i don't count that faggot. it's more like suicide right?
>>691141252
Absolutely not. Just like anything else that is regulated or under prohibition, if someone wants something, they will get it.
Orlando was a case of a self-loathing faggot killing other faggots. We need to be regulating people, not inanimate objects.
A .223 is barely bigger than a .22 my 45 handgun is more powerful than the "assault rifle" in question. Shoots just as fast too
>>691141389
so the media is essentially bullshitting saying he had an "assault AR-15 weapon". If that's the case how did he get such a high score?
>>691141648
that doesn't mean we shouldn't try faggot. it's a dumb idea.
>make murder illegal
>murder still happens
>make murder legal again
see how dumb that sounds?
>>691141519
>no you can buy them. but you will have to pass some tests and background checks and when you do something violent or make threats, you may lose them.
So what you're saying is, EXACTLY the way it is now. You are such an uneducated shitbag
>>691141702
he had a modified sig
>>691141379
>>691141389
>>691140702
>>691141648
thanks for opinions all, this is an interesting topic.
>>691141765
When did he say to make murder legal?
>>691141789
no, clearly that's not the case. anyone can get a sig or an ar-15 without any problems.
>>691141899
well that's the logical extension. laws don't work so let's not make laws. it's just dumb
>>691141905
Not a felon or someone convicted of a violent crime
>>691141252
i think that he went in with a fucking shit ton of ammo. from what i read he wasnt in there long and to pump that many rounds he had to have had 2 guns or just was amazing with his mag changes cause damn. he used a sig something i dont remember exactly what but it was semi auto which ment he pulled the trigger every time he wanted to shoot "1" bullet if it were an assault rifle we would be looking at more dead.
also he was a licensed security guard and had a background check done so its hard to say
>>691142025
yes, so that needs to change. so what?
>>691141905
>anyone can get
And this is why I called you uneducated. Stop trying to force your emotions on me and actually do some research on a topic you are going to spout off about before you sound like a complete idiot
>too late
>>691137266
Heh, the sign says "Pee in fart"
>>691142109
No it doesn't.
You want felons and violent criminals to own firearms?
>>691141905
actually a reporter was just turned down from a weapon ill try to find the link
>>691141443
So do you support terrorist suspects going to the local gun shop, asking for that same semi automatic gun with five 30 round magazines and walking out of there 5 minutes later and go shoot up your kids at school.
Or would you rather have a decent exam before buying a gun, waiting periods, and a decent background check. You can still go hunt and do everything you want with it afterwards .
>>691142109
Nigger. Google atf form 4437. Thats the federal background check someone has to pass every time they buy a gun. If they lie on the form, they'll get caught immediately when the gun store calls it in while they wait at the counter. That is also a federal crime
>>691141635
yes youre right man
>>691142181
not felons. but clearly that doesn't work. these people don't care about doing it again, about committing any other crimes. their goal is to die by police and it's usually their first crime.
i would prefer to have criminals who know what they're doing and have specific targets in mind, like other drug dealers or vendettas and shit than some shitbird fag that was rejected and wants to kill anyone and everyone.
i say give some felons back guns.
>>691141803
And I'm assuming the modded sig falls out of the category of an "assault weapon" let alone "assault rifle". From what I'm gathering, it seems it's a lot easier to purchase and get a hold of a weapon that is not classified as an assault weapon but shares similar "characteristics" of an assault weapon. Is that accurate?
>>691142376
And he was a progressive drunk wife-beater and his record got him denied
>topkek
>>691141905
>>691142376
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/columnist-fails-gun-check-blames-store-owners/article/2594417 "found it"
>>691142519
I wasn't sure but this post proved it
>>691142524
the assault wepaon ban has expired. the assault rifle ban is still in effect.
>>691141905
>>691142109
Are you stupid? Felons cannot vote or possess firearms and most states have laws that certain ciolent crimes will cost you the right to possess firearms as well
>>691142402
Until theyre indicted on a real charge, theyve done nothing wrong.
Secret blacklists managed by a cabal are tyrannical
>>691140108
kekitty kek
>>691141905
You're kidding right? Any convicted felon or someone with a violent crime is not allowed to posses any firearms, ANY. You literally have to pass a background check before buying any type of weapon at a store. It is also up to the gun clerkto decide if they want to sell a gun to you anyways. If they feel like you might be off in the head then most won't sell you one. They usually ask why your getting one in the first place.
Yea, cause no one died after Germany banned guns the first time around.
>>691142698
none of these mass shooters were felons. so it's a moot point.
>>691137266
The shooter couldn't get his hands on a gun
>>691142823
none of these people were felons. the orlando guy, that gook from california. banning felons is clearly not eneouh. might not even be necessary.
>>691142829
>implying jews getting killed is bad
>>691142664
So the assault rifle is a particular type of weapon under the category of "assault weapon". Are people then allowed to purchase "fully-automatic assault weapons" since the ban is lifted on that category? Is there such a thing?
>>691137266
>assault weapon
what's the deal with this retarded newspeak expression
>>691141899
I didn't.
>>691142018
That same logical extension actually supports my stance. What can happen will happen. People are the problem.
Regulation in a small population, let's say 1000 people usually works. It's easy to maintain. There are alot of people in the world and usually their empathy doesn't stretch beyond their friends and family, something like 20 people tops. People are inherently evil and will continue killing other people without regard for any laws prohibiting them to do so.
>>691139490
Do you actually know how dangerous is that you don´t even have a semi-auto pistol on hand while in the woods?
Unless you live somewhere with little fuckers around and not even decent sized stags then you have a great likelihood to get rekt´d by a big animal if you don´t carry any semi-auto.
>>691142363
convicted ones? after they did their time? i guess it depends. i woudln't be totally against it. every would-be felon has to have a first time anyway. assault weapons though? certainly not.
>>691143184
ha ha this is such bullshit. you've obviously never hunted in your life faggot
>>691143182
we can't stop them all but we can stop as many as possible. we can stop SOME and that's enough. we'll get better at it.
>>691139490
Redneck and proud.
>>691139130
Chinese people ignore kids being run over by cars, and pass by children being violently beat up like nothing is happening, what do you expect?
>>691143168
Jews as a whole never did anything wrong.
>>691143384
wut
>>691143529
>>691143529
ha ha it looks like the boar was armed when yu got it. good job.
>>691142983
Exactly to the point that everyone is fucking saying you dumb piece of shit. You can not predict someones future nor can you predict when someone just says, fuck it I want to kill some fags today. People do what they want. If it wasn't a gun it would have been a bomb, knife, chemical agent. Literally if you want to kill someone it's not that hard. People have been doing it for years. It would have been way more destructive if that guy used a bomb instead of a gun.
>but that's why we need stricter gun laws so they can't kill as many people
This could have been done with any number of firearms or other type of methods. Again criminals and other fucks don't care about the law. That's why there criminals.
>>691138054
"Assault rifles" aren't a thing. They're just semi-automatic rifles, and yes they are used for hunting. My hunting rifle is semi auto. My pistols are semi auto.
What makes them any different from an AR-15 or semi auto AK47 or any other "assault" rifle? Absolutely nothing.
And before you even fucking say it because I know somebody will, AR in AR-15 does not stand for assault rifle. It's Armalite Rifle.
I just love when people who have no idea what they're talking about spew off bullshit.
>>691143125
>So the assault rifle is a particular type of weapon under the category of "assault weapon". Are people then allowed to purchase "fully-automatic assault weapons" since the ban is lifted on that category? Is there such a thing?
You seem like you want to know. Full auto firearms have never been illegal. In 1986 the National Firearms Act was passed banning the importation and manufacture of new full auto firearms and all full-auto guns were to be registered. This created a massive mark up for the guns on this list, most cases around 1000% The cheapest full-auto firearms from this list can go for around $8,000.00. All you need is the appropriate paperwork for the ATF, a $200 check for the federal tax, and a shitload of money.
>>691140316
Underrated post.
>>691143184
Where do you live that the woods are that fucking dangerous? I've in several different areas in the US and Canada and I've ever only carried a 5 round hunting rifle and a 357 revolver sidearm, in bear country. Do you live on Isla Nublar?
So there's an assault rifle ban whereas assault weapons are legal to purchase. It's arguable that more "damage" (larger high scores) can be done from an assault rifle assuming it's automatic. Assault-style weapons are generally semi-automatic so I'm wondering what you all think. Should the federal ban on assault weapons be upheld again in spite of the fact that it can arguably do less "damage"?
>>691140416
>>691143931
this asshole has never been hunting in his life. don't worry about it.
>>691143828
So you're saying to ban semi-autos?
>>691142402
I support any suspect to except use their rights.
Until you're convicted, anyone can be a terror suspect. That means you, your mom, your dog, and anyone that's gets in the way of my investigation of who is planning to do terror. What is terror anyway? Such abstract terms to use to end lives
>>691142698
It's still pretty easy for felons to get guns. Most people doing private gun sales don't give a shit about background checks. There is a website like craigslist but for firearms. Look at all the felony gangbangers they all have guns.
>>691143828
doesn't it mean something like it has full auto function, lots of ammo, and it's just basically good for spraying bullets without aiming much?
>>691143948
i'm not advocating a ban. i just want better controls in place. i want to stop terrorists from getting them. we can start with known terrorist group ties, maybe have to throw muslim in there too for now. i don't know.
>>691143828 i already posted this but fuck it definition of assault rifle "a rapid-fire, magazine-fed automatic rifle designed for infantry use."
>>691143828
>Assault rifles are most definitely a thing. Every select-fire rifle is an assault rifle.
>Assault weapons is a made up phrase.
>But you love when people spew bullshit
>>691144178
but if they're caught they will go right back to jail. for a long long time.
>>691143857
Ahh, I see now. That's really interesting. In today's age there's so much focus on gun regulation/control and whatnot when eyes are gazed towards the States. I'm definitely intrigued by the policies regarding gun control and people's opinions on the matter. Thanks for your input.
>>691144186
No, faggot.
>>691144251
every fucking phrase is made up faggot.
>>691144395
then what does it mean?
>>691144186
full auto insn't necessary. of course that wuld be ridiculous to hunt with too. but so are most semi-auto weapons silly to hunt with.
>>691137266
There was a shooting in Germany he killed over 100 people trapped on an island. No assault weapons
>>691144526
Figure it out.
>>691144293
True. But most of them think going to jail is like an honor or something. Jail time isn't going to stop them from buying guns.
>>691144383
No problem man. I enjoy firearms and need to be aware of a shit ton of laws to be able to so legally and never mind sharing the information I know.
>>691144210
Would more thorough background checks help tighten regulation? Or would that matter at that level of regulation.
>>691144395
a rapid-fire, magazine-fed automatic rifle designed for infantry use.
say what now?
>>691144396
Thanks for adding to the conversation guy
>>691144156
To be perfectly honest anon, that's why the terrorists win.
We're too busy trying to stop them by enacting useless laws they can ignore and making up definitions and excuses for their bullshit, which is literally the point of terror attacks.
Think of them like trolls, the more you respond to them in this fashion, the more they win.
The only ways to beat them is to either man the fuck up and stop letting them control us through fear, or stoop lower than their level and just fucking slaughter anyone and everyone in and from the Middle East solely because they came from there, until they either relent, or everyone's dead. Obviously option b isn't going to happen, which leaves option a open.
>>691144178
It's easy for me to get meth too but I'll still go to jail. Just because it's illegal that doesn't mean I won't get what I want
>>691144624
i honestly don't have a problem with career crminals with guns. as long as they are not home invaders or even street level thiefs or the like. domesitic abusers. but drug dealers, mafia guys, etc are not that big of a deal. normally they try and stay away from indisciminate killing. it's bad for business.
>>691144536
But an AR-15 that ppl use for hunting is just a full auto design (m16) that is made to be just semi auto. So I think that's just why an AR for instance is called an assault rifle while it really isn't. When you accept that it is an assault rifle you fell for the anti-gun lobby's lies.
>>691144536
>that wuld be ridiculous to hunt with
Why is hunting the only reason to own a gun? The 2nd amendment has shit to do with hunting.
>>691138054
so a 120mm tank cannon or a chain belt gatling gun
>>691144811
That's the point I was trying to make.
>>691144850
it's not an assault rifle as defined by the NRA and gun lobbyists. but who cares about that. it's clearly an assault weapon.
>>691144186
Military doesn't even really use full auto unless the weapon is mounted.
too much recoil to control and wastes ammo
>>691144830
I'd have to agree. mafia and the like never meddle with civilians and vice versa.
>>691137266
if the shooter couldn't get his hands on a firearm. then he's not a shooter and there can't be a shooting.
>>691144904
yeah obviously, those too
>>691144624
Well than what will? If banning them won't work then what are you even suggesting?
>>691144981
because.. you can assault a person with it? that's bullshit because that's what makes it a weapon to start with.
>>691144981
>It's not an assault rifle as defined by the definition, but who cares about that? It's whatever the fuck I say it is, and I say it's bad.
>>691145061
yeah i mean the strong arming is a problem obviously. but i'd feel safer with them having guns then some pissed off half a fag who is afraid he has aids.
>>691145153
because it's only use is to mow down as many people as possible, yes.
>>691144981
>an assault rifle
>as defined by the NRA and gun lobbyists
Waaaaa, the big bad NRA. It is by fucking definition not an assault rifle you fucking mong
>>691144581
It wasn't germany, you dumbfuck. It was Norway with a semiautomatic rifle, pistols and more.
>>691138381
what's they typical magazine capacity for an AR-15? could he have done the same amount of damage with a Glock + shoulder stock?
>>691145274
yes i agreed with you. so what?
>>691137718
underated post 10/10
>>691137266
>>>>>>>>>>>>assault weapon
>>691145061
*fedora tip*
>>691138788
There has been plenty shootings stopped but they never make the news because not enough views
>>691141303
shutup cletus and post ur aunts nudes
>>691145270
>because it's only use is to mow down as many people as possible
Because you think this is the only reason doesn't make you correct.
>>691142402
Except he wasn't a terrorist suspect at the time he got a gun. He had been removed from the list.
>>691145270
why is that a problem?? the military and police have them for the same purpose.
>>691145270
Just like a 14th-century halberd?
'Twas designed to cleave ranks of men in twain
>>691145460
what's your opinion on the matter?
>>691145498
what other reason is there? sure you can use it to dig up a field or to put little holes in pieces of paper with obama's face on it. or to help you feel like a real man because you've got an inferiority complex. but there are easier ways to do that then with an assault weapon.
>>691137266
You mean because the German cops went in fast and took the dipshit down before he could do any real damage. That's what happens when the police act rather than try to be sensitive because of groups like Black Tantrums Matter.
>>691145313
maybe i dont know why it has to have a shoulder stock depends on the type and the cartridge amount ar hold about 20-30
>>691138788
>Who cares?
The whole reason you posted this thread was to shit on guns. Atleast act like you want to know something about the issue that you are addressing, rather than regurgitating bullshit you don't understand in a vain effort to try and have the spotlight on you.
>>691145631
yeah i guess so. i don't see you hunbting with a halberd. and protecting your home, shit, might as well have a baseball bat. a shotgun is going to more effective. sure, control the shit out of halberds too. why not.
>>691138102
>people can buy flamethrowers
First of all, I love how this Orlando thing has rustled the jimmies of so many foreign faggots. You guys hear whatever you want on YOUR media and call it fact. Not a single one of you live here, you didn't grow up here, so granted you are going to have a different mindset then if you had been brought up in America. So none of you get to have a say in "Well America should do this and that all then the whole world will be a better place!" cause all you're doing is talking out your ass.
Secondly, a gun is a TOOL. The terrorists in 9/11 literally hijacked planes with BOX CUTTERS, the mass stabbing in China was done with KNIVES, the terrorism in Paris done with BOMBS to name a few. If someone wants you dead or means you harm, they are not going to give a shit what they use. At least in the US, we have the right to arm ourselves IN DEFENSE. The responsibility of a gun owner is to have the power to cause harm, and choosing not to unless there is a THREAT. I can sleep well at night knowing that there are guns in my home to where I can defend myself and family if some fucker feels lucky and tries to cause us harm. There are going to be bad people everywhere who are going to do bad things but you're a literal dumbfuck if you think the actions of those individuals give you a right to blame those who actually follow the law and are responsible.
Focus on making your own country better and leave us to do the same. Cause unless you want to migrate over here and become a citizen to cast a vote, shut your fucking mouth.
>>691145313
it's a lot harder to kill someone with a handgun. a lot more can go wrong.
>>691140108
keks were had
>>691145962
how are these the same?
>>691145812
I was wondering about the shoulder stock because there just has to be something that distinguishes a handgun from an 'assault rifle' - when using it in a confined space, the casualties should be comparable, but from news reports I get the feeling it's easier to kill people with a rifle?
>mfw people don't want the police to have weapons of war
>mfw people don't want civilians to have weapons of war
>mfw these people never complain about criminals not being charged with using weapons of war
>mfw
>>691145498
It does not matter. These weapons can be used for mass killing and they're not necessary for any other purpose for the general public.
>>691145863
But then I can still make halberds in my garage out of the same materials and sell them to my local felons for an exorbitant cost
>>691138102
nope, the ban has ended
>>691146117
>they're not necessary
Neither are computers. Let's ban them
>>691146129
we need to stop you from doing that too i guess.
that fag armed with a halberd in orlando would have lasted 2 minutes.
>>691145701
>ure you can use it to dig up a field or to put little holes in pieces of paper with obama's face on it.
reported for threats to the president. enjoy your ass raping in the federal pen asshole
>>691146117
they aren't for anybody you prick
>>691146223
computers have a million other uses you stupid bastard. it's in fact very difficult to kill someone with a computer. unless they were sleeping, maybe.,
>>691146079
The barrel length is what distinguishes a handgun from any other firearm.
A handgun with a 7" bbl and stock is still a handgun
>>691146253
wat? you're dumb
>>691137266
hi just didn't have his aimbot ready
>>691146079
yea the way rifle rounds are made is to pass through and keep going and depending on the type they can go a long way like 7.62x39 has about a 500 yard kill range
>>691146117
>These weapons can be used for mass killing and they're not necessary for any other purpose for the general public.
And I don't give a shit what you think. And neither does SCOTUS so fuck off with your feelings
An assault rifle is a rifle that share the same properties as the German Sturm Gewehr from WW2. Translated to English, it means Storm Rifle or Assault Rifle. The properties of an assault rifle is:
1. It uses a detachable magazine.
2. It uses intermediate cartridges.
3. It has a fire selector which consists of single fire and fully automatic (some rifles has burst fire instead).
>>691145701
Have you ever seen a feral hog?
>>691146079
it's harder to be accurate with a hand gun, especially in situations off the gun range, which none of these rednecks would know anything abuot.
>>691145208
I think strong-arming is a better tactic to get what you want compared to mass-muder. people with mental disease shouldn't have access to guns.
>>691146039
>it's a lot harder to kill someone with a handgun. a lot more can go wrong.
why's that? handguns are quite reliable
lol krauts
>>691146324
killing people is a perfectly justifiable aim, just like shitposting on /b
4chan: Where the Issues don't matter, just the semantics
>>691146225
You can't stop me from making weapons.
See, I can make firearms in my garage just like I can make car parts or a sculpture. It's just parts.
How can you stop people from making halberds/firearms? You can't ban tools.
>>691146453
it isn't scotus that's stoppoing it. it's the NRA, their money and their lobbyists.
>>691146575
This pleases me.
>>691137266
No one died because it was a blank gun you fucking faggot
>>691146495
I'm guessing bull moose/elk and bears don't give a flying fuck about a few bullets being lodged into them. just serves to anger them more. more power is needed.
>>691146434
yeah, but how does overpenetration and a 500yd kill range help in a densely populated night club?
>>691140832
Yeah, he "intended" it for military use, but the military looked at it and said, "Nope, not good enough". It wasn't until Colt got the AR-15, made hella mods to it that the military said it needed, and called it the M-16.
I could design a squirt gun and "intend" for it to be a military squirt gun, but if the military rejects it, that doesn't means its an "assault squirt gun" just because i designed it and said it is.
>>691146513
>people with mental disease shouldn't have access to guns.
I agree, let's ban liberals from buying guns since they're so scared of them. Besides, they're the ones committing all the mass shootings anyway.
>>691146643
we can require you to sell them only ot people who have passed out checks. and if you do not, if you try and get around the checks, then you should be responsible and liable for whatever that person does with the weapon.
>>691146501
what he says is true. when at a range its a controlled environment but in public its a high stakes adrenaline filled mess that has alot of other variables involved
>>691146453
I don't care about SCOTUS or you. But your country has these weapons and mass killings, and Germany (and most EU countries) doesn't have neither. No feelings involved, except for the relief when I go out in the street, clubs, schools and there are no crazy fucks with powerful weapons killing people.
>>691139130
logical. ninjas.
>>691146886
But when a weapon is misused, How do you know I made that particular halberd? It's not registered because I didn't put a serial number on it when I made it because I made it in my garage for a criminal
>>691146905
yea,and a rifle with the type of stock that isn't necessary for aiming through the sights is a lot more stable under pressure.
Switzerland is the only country who has it right.
>High count of guns
>Low crime right
>Gosh they must be doing something right
>>691146724
used in Spectre opening shot: https://youtu.be/cbqv1kbsNUY?t=187
>>691146913
>But your country
Oh jesus christ, you're a fucking foreigner complaining about american gun laws. Fuck straight off
>>691147097
we try our best. not every single criminal is going to remain silent abuot where he got your halberd.
>>691146809
well that was an example idk what sized he used but think about this if it ovepenatrates (what ever cant fucking spell) and keeps going it'll tear through people like butter
>>691146575
That wouldn't be considered a hand gun. That is a sbr and I'm pretty sure you have to get a stamp or pay a tax to have one.
>>691147160
OP here, this wasn't me. i'm an american.
>>691147126
It's all the beautiful women you have that distracts people
>>691146790
>>691146790
Mercury fulminate
>>691147160
I didn't claim to not care about murica. And if your best argument is "you're not american", well, good luck getting killed by your gun laws.
>>691146053
Retardedness of having deadly stuff ready to sell for shitheads who want to feel like real killers with them. Except it makes it available to real killers too. Absurd
You don't sell war equipement to risky countries, right? Oh wait, yes you do
>>691147126
Considering that the Swiss have mandatory military service and keep their weapons locked up in what amounts to public armories, it's not really surprising.
To be honest, I think we could do without the public gun lockups, since those could easily be captured to keep weapons away from people, but the mandatory military training seems like a great way to teach people about weapons and how they're used, so that wen can actually have a proper discussion on the topic instead of an argument where maybe 30% of the participants have any clue what they're talking about.
>>691147198
But the second you put me away for unlawful manufacture of halberds, someone else with the tools and raw materials steps up and takes my place because now there is a market for underground halberds.
Capitalism sucks sometimes
>ITT:
Uneducated faggots debating firearms and firearms laws with the false information the television has told them.
>This is why no one listens to your ideas on gun control
>>691147612
that's fine. we can't stop every crime. but that doesn't mean we shouldn't have laws. just becauset he criminals keep popping up like weeds doesn't mean batman shouldn't still stop them when he can.
>>691147537
>And if your best argument is "you're not american"
It is. No one in America cares what you do in your shithole
>>691147706
What's your stance on gun control laws regarding assault rifles vs assault weapons? where do you think resources should be spent in order to curb mass-murder?
>>691147540
hillary does it all the time. but you know what else is deadly that we sell? knives swords pencils poison its a mater of respecting life
>>691146849
>implying
You Americans use left wing liberal like some form of insult and not actually to call someone out on their political opinion.
>>691147544
Made a thread like that the other day in /pol/
Was definitely a lot more educated and civil then what I can expect from most, not all, /b/ users
>>691147433
Hwat? Its a glock with a bunch of shit stuck on it. Do you even gun?
>>691147965
good point. i care about some countries, like half of europe. but yeah most of htem, including in the middle east where muslims are killing each other, who gives a fuck.
i do care about germany. i love visiting berlin. german women love americans. so easy to get laid there
Idiot....
>>691137266
Banning weapons is nonsense.
Maybe authorizing only non-automatics for people who have no professional use of guns is closer to the answer
>>691148005
Yea, I'm waiting for the isis massacre with a pencil
>>691148128
it's a "carbine conversion kit" so I guess he's right and you have to pay $200 and fill out a bunch of forms (what makes it a rifle is the overall length, not the barrel length). how that is supposed to keep someone from shooting up a night club is beyond me though
>>691148002
>where do you think resources should be spent in order to curb mass-murder?
How about in the mental health sector for once? There are way too many laws on guns and it hasn't stopped a single psychopath from any type of killing. We should be spotting antisocial behavior and tendencies for this type of crime from an early age. But no liberal president or legislator will do that, because they don't want to hurt little Johnny's feelings and mommy and daddy will be so upset when we start locking up these mental patients up for life when they start killing cats.
>>691148002
> in order to curb mass-murder?
exactly the point. we can't stop murders. it's a fact of life. someone getting killed, even a man killing his wife, does not cause terror. terror is the random element.
like you're just sucking a cock in some bathroom on hispanic night and oyu get shot int he back of hte head thinking he ejaculated you to death. or something like that.
>>691148128
When you put a stock on a firearm with a certain barrel length, the ATF classifies it as a short-barreled-rifle or SBR, which you need a class 3 tax stamp to own
>>691148272
no one said banning jackal
germany bans, we can do better
>>691148128
>>691148470
Do you even gun?
>>691148400
i would pay to see that
>>691148128
A handgun is no longer a handgun once it has stock that can be shouldered. Of course I gun. I'm a fucking American.
>>691137266
Guy acts out in Germany, gets shot.
> shooting in Germany
>>691148612
he had a gun and he shot it. what more do you need?
