I think the society of the USA is so dull and shallow because it has no common cultural roots.
You opinion?
Actually the mixing of all the different cultures is what makes it the opposite of dull and shallow.
>>690776201
>Actually the mixing of all the different cultures is what makes it the opposite of dull and shallow.
O'rly? Doesn't look like it to me.
>>690775920
There's plenty of culture in the USA, it's just not as old as other countries.
>>690775920
I live in a rabbit warren community. It's a soulless hell.
Aside from me, of course.
>>690776418
>There's plenty of culture in the USA,
Like what? Let's forget about cosmopolitan cities like New York, Chicago, LA and San Francisco for a minute.
>>690776201
Stop digging for karma and attention.
>>690776370
>I can do this too
I've been living in Japan for about a year now and I can confirm cultural roots do not make a society better or worse. Everyone's pretty much a boring, shallow cunt everywhere in the world.
>>690775920
Shallow - quite possibly. We have very little spirit of the place to inspire origin and destiny.
Dull? eh... I don't think dull is quite right. Or at the very least, not related.
>>690775920
if it's so dull and shallow, maybe you're a higher being and need to off yourself so you can transcend us common folk.
This is what you get when you mix Europeans together uncontrolled.
>>690776858
New Orleans
>Cajun food
>Great Architecture
>Has the best Mardi Gras celebration
>Constant music everywhere
St. Louis
>Historically rich
>The Gateway Arch
>Recently had Forest Park voted best city park
>Free zoos, museums, science center, and theatre
>America's Baseball city
Philadelphia
>Great Architecture
>Historically Rich
>Good food
St. Augustine, FL
>Oldest US city
>Near Cape Canaveral
Detroit
>Home of automobile manufacturers
>Home of Motown
I could go on
>>690777015
>LA
I image that to be a Moloch.
>>690775920
To an engineer. That neighborhood is fucking beautiful.
STRAIGHT SMOOTH LINES!
Makes maths happy
England
>>690776858
Yeah just toss out to most important cities and say there is no culture. What country doesn't have most of its culture coming from their biggest cities?
>>690777933
>To an engineer.
You mean to a fag suffering from OCD that studied something that would suit his disorder.
I am an mech. engineer by the way and find that unnatural and soulless.
London
>>690778003
At least those houses are build from brigs not plywood.
>>690778179
CLEARLY not
But I admire your attempt, anon
I tip my hat to you
>>690777523
I applaud you. Every city has lots of interesting culture and history, just not as old as the rest of the world it that's what op is bragging about.
Paris
Loads of culture in america, let's be grateful for all the cultures we have like arab muslims for example
America
>>690778639
>Every city has lots of interesting culture and history, just not as old as the rest of the world it that's what op is bragging about.
No I am not. Many central European cities were leveled in WW2 anyway and had to be rebuild. I don't give a shit about your architecture. I am talking about the people having no cultural roots.
>>690778353
Show me your basement. Also what's it like doing laundry in the kitchen?
>>690779443
>Show me your basement.
I have a flat on the second floor. The walls are 40 cm thick brick walls though. Building is from the mid 19-hundreds.
>Also what's it like doing laundry in the kitchen?
My washing machine and dryer stand in a shared laundry room under the roof.
>>690775920
They only people who dont have culture are the white southern people and the blacks from both the south and cities, other then that the u.s has many cultures from other countries.
>>690780017
kek faggot
You know what I'm getting at.
>>690780218
>other then that the u.s has many cultures from other countries
Like?
>>690777777
>>690776201
>the mixing of all the different cultures
>is the definition of american culture
cunts. we call ourselves a melting pot, for fucks sake.
>>690780557
Excuse me while we just build a little wall here.
>>690780363
Like creole/cajun south, Italian New Yorkers, Irish farmers in PA, french canadian in the north, African Americans in general, the list goes on and on
>>690780363
food, clothes, music, etc.
>>690780721
Trying to protect yourself from what, the last 200 years worth of culture mixing? Good job, faggot.
>>690780884
America was built by waves of immigrants from all over the world. Anyone who claims it for any one race is completely retarded and should be outright ignored. The majority of us are really not that awful.
>>690774771
>>690774771
>>690775920
>cultural roots.
America has deep roots in gay culture.
>>690781247
exactly.
gay people make me uncomfortable.
guns make me feel safe.
immigrants scare me.
trump might have a good point.
>this is american culture
>>690775920
I'd take that any day over this bullshit that is circa 20-fucking-15!
See? No where else in the world can people get sucked off and pissed on on the streets with the police joining in.
>>690781928
kek
Belongs in YLYL
>>690782166
Why? Those are typical hard working American construction workers enjoying their well earned lunch break.
>>690781928
>>690781476
>>690781928
>>690782441
>>690782442
>>690782550
pretty weak b8
>>690777523
Charleston SC
>rated #1 tourist city in the world
>>690776858
>apparently these cities arent in the usa
Your trolling is deplorable
>>690783102
>Charleston
>a total shithole
>[sources needed]
>>690783102
>>rated #1 tourist city in the world
By who?
>>690783102
Holy shit you live a sheltered life.
Former Brit here. America has every bit as much culture as any euro country. Go to Europe and you'll find the same suburban planned housing estates, shopping malls, and strip malls that you would in the US.
Euros are always pretending to be experts on the US. They are obsessed with America. However, very few of them actually know anything about the country outside of a few untrue memes.
The "cardboard houses" meme is particularly ridiculous. Most American buildings are solid masonry. Only cheap new builds in outer ring suburbs really fit that description. Euros are simply jealous of the American housing situation, as they can't afford adequate housing in their home country. They feel the need to (undeservedly) ridicule others in order to feel better about their own shitty situations.
>>690783466
http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20141020/PC05/141029970
http://www.travelandleisure.com/articles/charleston-best-city-north-america
http://www.cntraveler.com/stories/2013-10-15/charleston-south-carolina-number-one-city-in-the-united-states
Pardon me number 2 in the world
>>690783727
How dare you be reasoned
>>690783638
>>690783513
>>690783466
Not him, but I've been to most major cities in the world. Charleston is still one of my favorites.
>>690783727
>jealous of the American housing situation
>apparently no one in Europe pays attention to the American economic crisis that caused a global recession
jesus christ, I thought WE were supposed to be the retards.
>>690784021
huh? European housing is a massive bubble right now. The prices are simply insane in most Euro countries. So much so that most young people have absolutely no chance to own a home.
>>690775920
>you opinion
>>690782550
Why the fuck can't hetero's have parades and engage in this kind of behavior. Jesus being a straight white male sucks sometimes.
>>690783976
Can't fault you for having an opinion, especially if you really have been to most major cities (a feat that is commendable). I've traveled for work for the past 12 years and have also been to most major cities worldwide, lots of not so major cities, and just about every state in the US.
I'm not saying Charleston is bad, it's a nice little spot, but surrounded by ghetto. Little, poorly-known villages like Weisbaden in Germany offer much nicer surroundings rich with culture.
Just saying there are a lot better tourist destinations that aren't 'touristy'
>>690777933
To a naturalist that looks disgusting, and you seem retarded.
>>690784625
It sucks all of the time. You cannot win, no matter what you say or do. Best case scenario you need to check your privilege, worst case scenario you're the KKK.
>>690784854
"Better" is very subjective. Like I said, I've been just about everywhere and Charleston is still one of my favorite place to visit. Savannah, GA is also pretty high up there.
>>690775920
I think I agree
Never really liked the U.S.
I always thought they seemed a bit psychopathic
A bit too commercialized
And I never knew if I saw them that way because I'd always seen TV and movies and ads from over there or if they were copying the TV movies and ads I had seen
They all seemed fake to me
Like nothing was ever real
>>690784977
>a naturalist
>lives in a house
>buys food from a grocery store
>drives a vehicle
>owns a pet
>has heating and air conditioning
Naturalists are retards.
>>690775920
The subtler the differences, the more people look for them.
To what degree of precision would you like your answer? MuriKKKa is supposed to be a melting-pot but it's got lots of lumps in the mix. Most are Lumpen-proletariat. Heil Drumpf!
>>690785301
Is your opinion of the usa just from their media?
>>690785301
>I saw them that way because I'd always seen TV and movies and ads from over there
>They all seemed fake to me
Euros are actually this retarded
>>690777749
"There is no THERE there."
-- Gertrude Stein
>>690785308
>buys food from a grocery store, wrong amoung other things.
Pic related it's my pet that I feed with rabbit and venison in my Aquaponics greenhouse
>>690785301
>judges a society based upon its advertising and media
>wonders why it seems so fake
Are you brain dead?
>>690775920
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUoXtddNPAM
>Little boxes on the hillside,
>Little boxes made of ticky tacky,1
>Little boxes on the hillside,
>Little boxes all the same.
>There's a green one and a pink one
>And a blue one and a yellow one,
>And they're all made out of ticky tacky
>And they all look just the same.
>>690779443
We have no basements where I live.
>>690785734
Bad picture
>>690785734
>naturalist
>still seeks to control nature
Like i said, retarded
>>690785857
That was his point you sperg
>>690785308
So you have to shit in a hole in the woods to be a naturalist?
>>690776858
>what is modern art
>not just that painting and sculpture bullshit, either
>what is modern music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5q1LXbOZRBg
>>690783727
You are talking about the opposite of culture. You are talking about the famous "ticky-tacky houses".
The US does not use solid masonry, as you say. It uses stick-frame construction. (Metal supports for 2x4 wood and fanciful sheathing.)
Not all Brits know what they're talking about. Like that PM Camaron, no relation to the cute blonde.
>>690785495
>tfw as americans even we dont take our media very seriously
don't trust these sources for your information. they're bought and paid for. i thought everyone knew that, not just everyone in this country but everyone across the globe.
>>690776370
>massive housing = rustic monoculture
kek
>>690786026
>>690785308
You really need to learn what naturalism means dude.
In this context it means an adherent of the life sciences. Although I am also a naturalist in its philosophical context.
You seem to think naturalism means living like a wildmad. Which is retarded
U dissing batman, asshole???
>>690786349
Pretty much. How can you say nature is the best, while still living a life that tries to control it? Im not saying you cant appreciate nature, but dont claim it is the best when you still actively control it.
>>690786627
Wildman
>>690785734
What a pretentious cunt.
>>690786275
Except that I live in Mexico, Señor Sperg.
"Oooh, isn't he a clever little anon!"
--Monty Python
>>690777376
>We have very little spirit of the place to inspire origin and destiny
- Shallow, The Post
>>690775920
Eh, it really depends on where. I'm currently working in north Texas and I've maybe run into 3 black people the entire 3 weeks I've been here so far. Just a while bunch of nice white folk. Except Dallas
look
>>690786275
Let him speak for himself. Most of MuriKKKa gots basements from where people like you send posts to chans like 4.
>>690786686
See
>>690786627
I'm sure you already have.
>>690777015
>Columbus Ohio on here but not Cincinnati, even though Cincinnati is more important
>>690784234
This. I live in Norway and can concur
>>690775920
this picture terrifies me
>>690786983
>>690786627
Ok, and than how does looking at ops pic make people disgusted as naturalists? Hmm? Could you answer that please, and i will retract my statement. But i have a strong feeling that the anon who posted being disgusted about op's pic doesnt understand naturalism either.
Acting, like the US has no culture, is retarded. Every city I've been too had big art & music scene, great historical sites and a lot of things to enjoy.
That being said: I could never imaging living there. If you're in Europe, you have such a variaton of different architectural styles and beautiful old towns, while in America, the whole country ist just so homogeneous.Besides of landmarks, Denver didn't feel that different from Chicago and so on.
American cities are extremly convenient (besides of public transport), compared to European cities, so it's not like they're objectivly worse, but I definitely feel more comfortable in e.g. Madrid than in Philadelphia.
>>690785301
>probably has seen less than 1% of the US.
>>690776858
>Like what? Let's forget about cosmopolitan cities
>where is the culture aside from the areas known to have the most culture
lol you are retarded. Even still PA anabaptists are different from Texas fundamentalists. Florida's Cubans are different from Tennessee Mexicans.
My small hometown had Greek, Japanese, Mexican, and German cuisine along with local customs. Oh yes and I can buy the best movies from Hollywood months or years before some yuropoor countries can even show it.
>>690787389
>millenia vs. A couple hudred years
Give us time man, we will get there. New orleans is kinda like a european city, what with its nonsense roads and old french stly houses.
>>690787219
Oh and I get like 75k a year and my gf like 60k, Still cant buy our own place.
>>690785569
Not from Europe
And what I'm saying is that you're media has very obvious parallels with how you people are
And I don't know which started which
>>690779183
>no cultural roots
Jazz literally evolved in America you fucking nincomchinkum
>b-but anon jazz is music not culture
The entire south literally distinguishes itself so much that it has stereotypes about it
>but- anon m-m-muh rich heritage and roots go back much further than those hillbillies
Native Americans and Europe is a melting pot of different cultures because the European borders as they exist now have only been around since post WW2 and changed for years before that since Europeans can't seem to get enough of fighting over the Rhineland
>gotcha anon I'm not even from Europe
Now I just feel sorry for you
>>690783102
Great city and even the ghetto really lights up on the 4th of July. Would visit again.
>>690787792
Explain
>>690787339
That anon is me. Anyways it disgust me because it is working against nature. Everything humans have is directly dependent on nature, this kind of devolpment is sprawling over wide tracts of land that should be used for agriculture and wilderness, as to have local ecosystem services.
The suburbs should expand vertically like the city instead of covering wide areas of land. It's just unwise devolpment.
>>690779316
/thread
>>690787389
I mean that's pretty true the further west you go, but if you stay on the east coast you'll see a pretty brilliant mesh of centuries old architecture all the way up to modern designs. I live in a house just over 100 years old, while a few blocks away there are houses built in the late 80s, and even further there are houses being built. On the east coast we've been established long enough to have a very defined and unique style, from maryland to new york to south carolina
>>690787889
And thats naturalism? And you dont see the hypocrisy between what you are saying here, and the fact that you are still controlling nature in the life you live.
>>690787389
this was ops point i guess. whole america looks like the same, and the culture they got from immigrants, so it is really disconnected to america itself and just a shallow form of other cultures.
also, in america its a traditional venture, if they exist since 1900, and they act like its a big deal.
We have a beer brewery that makes beer since 1436, thats what tradition is, not recent history.
>>690783727
>The "cardboard houses" meme is particularly ridiculous.
That's a meme? kek. Even ghettos and Indian reservations have good masonry.
Was it in reference to some cheap building companies that were mass producing for baby boomers? Honestly curious
>>690787171
Ohio as a whole doesn't count.
>>690788146
>1436
>america founded in 1776
Sorry we cant go back in time m8
>>690788146
Saxony?
>>690787873
capitalism. its the american way. every source in our country is screaming at us to buy this or that, and when original thought occurs it makes headline news as "racist" or "fascist", or "xenophobic".
>the original content is how you actually feel
>and its the worst example of american culture we could possibly present to the world
no wonder people think we're fucking assholes. we feed each other chemicals and let our children get shot in the name of profit, for fucks sake.
>>690788136
I don't see the false dichotomy between man and nature.
When I said working against nature I was really talking about a decline in ecosystem function.
>>690787873
I never see the human in them
They just seem like walking talking pieces of what they think or what they were told a human should be
It's like they are the epitome of a walking and talking human ad
I think it's to the point I get freaked out when I see Americans
>>690787792
our media is almost laughably inconsistent with actual American life, just like any place on earth.
I'm not gonna binge watch BBC and think everyone in the UK is a morbidly obese racecar driving womanizing computer genius with bad teeth, that's fucking stupid
>>690785125
Poor Savannah. It used to have potential. I spent years doing training and Fort Stewart and have spent a lot of time in Savannah. That only tiny little section near the water is awesome, don't get me wrong, but you can easily walk all of the safe (nice) parts of Savannah, GA in 15 minutes. Go over the bridge and there are literal crack houses. Go too far into the neighborhoods and, well, you know. They're largely subsidized houses these days with less than desirable tenants.
>>690776201
They say exactly the same in Brazil, to mask their TOTAL lack of culture.
And when I mean exactly the same it's really exactly.
>>690784021
The US faired better than literally every other country in the recession. Read more international news sections from various countries, it gives you a better focal point for regions that US news doesn't constantly cover
>>690785817
Just thought about this song when reading OP's post
Weeds was great
>>690788521
I've lived in the U.S.
The ideology is strong over there
>>690788406
Humans are nature
Every action we take is natural
What?
Do you think we came from the nether zone
We are not a separate from the universe
Every non theoretical scientist is a naturalist
You sir are just mad
>>690786523
>The US does not use solid masonry, as you say. It uses stick-frame construction.
Except that isn't true. Most US homes are full masonry.
>>690787171
>Columbus
>Cincinnati
You don't matter because you both inhabit a state with Cleveland.
>>690775920
true
>>690788898
>fared better
>in a recession we caused
you missed the point entirely.
>>690775920
You need to trying living in some other country then see how you feel.
>>690788380
So because we have advertising and have the capitialistic system, this makes us assholes? You do understand no one is forcing anyone to buy anything. I dont understand the hate, this is our system how does it makes us bad?
>>690788371
Nah Austria, the little thingy which got basically killed during wwI/II.
>>690788321
I know but talking about traditions with so little actual development, gezzus man thats so strange, also, the only real "inherent" culture america had, the us tried to actively kill, yeah talking about those redskins you tried to get rid off.
Also your modern culture and achievements are also just taken from Europe, first when the Jews fled and then again when you took also the Nazis.
America in history in a nutshell: "we live on a huge island in the highsee, fuck you."
USA is a great place.
>>690784854
I fucking hate Weisbaden. Tiny little piece of shit nothing to do town. And don't get me started on Meinz.
>>690775920
Hello I have this piece of shit. I want to sell it
Let me call a specialist
Ok
Specialist: this is solid waste from the pre-Nixon era. Wow. That's old.
- wow, seller, I give you 2000
- nope, no way, I accept 2200
- arfarfghh OK shake my hand.
(all of this on television, everyday)
THIS IS A PIECE OF AMERICAN CULTURE.
In France we have that expression: "Culture is like jam: the less you have of it the more you spread it (onto your toast)"
>>690788406
Which you arent contributing to? That is my point, how can you state this than participate in it, it is hypocrisy at its most basic level.
Born and raised in the Appalachian mountains. The culture here is wonderful. Plus, the rich history of coal, the music, the outdoor activities, the history of moonshining, and the people are cool as shit.
>>690775920
>>690776370
dude that looks so much like simcity
>>690788410
How many americans have you talked to?
>>690789023
No I think humans are nature.
Work on that reading comprehension bud.
>>690789350
>no one is forcing anyone to buy anything
Do you even know why ads exist?
So you buy shot you don't need
If you actually needed something you wouldn't need an ad to tell you you needed it
People who make ads use tricky psychology to get people to buy
If that's not manipulative and in some way forced then I don't know what is
Europoors have culture?
You mean goose liver paste and spotted dick? Anything relevant happened hundreds of years ago. If anything your cultures are dead as in not growing and prospering.
You europoors are losing your culture. Do you not eat kabob every day for every meal? Have fun with the Mudslimes.
>>690789142
No I didn't. I was adding to a conversation that you are apparently to dumb to understand
>omg hay guiz did u no the us had a recession
>>690788898
You faired better because the rating agencies are American, and they would be dumb to say, yeaaah we are totally shit right now, we give ourselfes a B rating, please do not make buisness with us.
>>690789541
I lived over there for a few years
>>690788289
What state you from?
>>690789628
>>no one is forcing anyone to buy anything
>Do you even know why ads exist?
Are ads putting guns to your head anon? I consume very little and see ads everyday.
>>690789351
So all american culture is copied is your point, and the only inherent culture we had was from the native americans? You do understand how america eas founded right, what with the euro immigrants. How can you expect an inherent and totally seperate culture when we have just been formed, and are made up of many people?
>>690789872
Kek
I bet you have a ton of shit you don't actually need
>ads
>>690775920
>common cultural roots
"Melting Pot"
>>690789434
What the fuck are you even saying? That was completely incoherent.
>>690789628
No one is forcing you anon. Just because you are weak minded and fall for the tricks doesnt mean everybody does. And yes i buy shot when i need it, the advertising just draws my attention to shot i might need when i do buy things
>>690789570
You said our actions are unnatural
I guess that means you think we summoned the demon god to put up those neighborhoods
So UNnatural
I'm sorry if you don't understand isolated systems
>>690789061
City nigger?
>>690789782
And how are europeans different?
>>690790020
That was your best response? If you're butthurt just don't respond.
>>690789978
So what? All cultures started this way you think because your older the traditions you stole and mask as your own are somehow different? Every culture in existence now is borrowed from those who came before.
>>690790312
I'm not from Europe either
But I've met Europeans and some of me do seem more down to earth
>>690789978
Yeah the european outcasts had shurely a huge ass culture...
also, this is exactly my point, all Americans have in culture is a shitty to usual European version. Granted, thanks for the movies, but honestly even with them, I would go with European arthouse if i had to choose.
>>690778034
Germany
>>690790409
I made my point
That's what replying is for
>>690789628
>suggestion = force
You are as weak willed as a suburban mom or a tumblrite
>>690790421
That is my point, how can anon claim that america has no culture than talk about age old european culture? Give us time, damn. We will get there
>>690789673
>LOL ur dumb
and what a contribution it was.
>>690790438
How?
>>690790252
Alright
I'm sorry I pestered you, edgelord, with my weak mind
I wish I had the capacity you had to avoid ads
>>690775920
I was thinking about this just yesterday. As I learn more about other cultures, I like the U.S. more and more precisely because it isn't weighed down by traditionalism. There's no sentiment; no religion or pseudo-religion tethering us to the past, and I love love love this fact.
>>690790443
So you can claim america's culture sucks, but at the same time note that european culture is good because it has been aged with traditions? How can you make a comparison between something that has been around for 1000 and something that has been around for 200. Damn man youre grasping at straws.
>>690777523
do it
>>690790739
The contribution would have obviously been the post before that.
>hurr durr he called me a name and I'm too butthurt to think
>>690790739
>>690790506
>>690790020
sure is underage in here
>>690790783
>ad hom
>invoking edgelord cringe
>thinks i avoid ads
Dude, it is people like you who emotionally attack something with little evidence than resort to ad homs that really are children. Wanna call me a white male, and ask if im kidding next? Come back with facts to support your crazy claims that we are being forced by ads to consume products lol good luck on your search.
>>690789872
>>690790252
As an american, I can confirm that we have ads shoved down our throats every single time we step outside or surf online. Imgur has ads, youtube has ads, buzzfeed has ads, cracked has ads, every single website we frequent has ads. Including facebook. And subways. And airports. And billboards. And cable TV.
>ads are every fucking where
>and the ad agencies admit to using subconscious psychological manipulation to make sure they work
>no ones forcing you
This is how we justify it to ourselves. But it doesn't change the fact that we're surrounded by ads screaming "BUY BUY BUY" and we have to actively resist the temptation to do so.
>>690791310
>sure is underage in here
>>690791434
>actively resist temptation
Seriously man. Im american as well, and it is not that bad. Sure ads are every where, but you dont have to actively resist anything. No one is forcing you to do shit lol
>actively resist
>>690789475
I consider my impact on the world around me on virtually every decision I make especially regarding consumption and advocate for a healthy relationship between civilization and the environment that supports it.
I don't know what you think a hypocrite isn't but it's probably not achievable
>>690789734
And the EU accepting poor nations in, the oil market, and S.E. Asia's violatile nature had absolutely nothing to do with a strong stable nation with a shit ton of natural resources fairing better
>>690789142
>his point isn't my point
>no you missed my point
>>690790269
Like I said earlier
>When I said working against nature I was really talking about a decline in ecosystem function.
And
>I don't belive in the false dichotomy of man and nature
and
>you need to work on your reading comprehension
Reading comprehension
>>690775920
OP, the problem is there is so much diversity, it clashes. Big businesses keep plowing wildlife here to build more idle houses for the upper class while there is still homelessness here and nature lovers.
Every two years I have to drive further away from my city to be in the wild.
It's very depressing, I'm going to move somewhere smaller one day where they won't plow the scenery and replace it with stucco houses in three colors and imported trees.
They keep making clones of the same shopping plazas here, they just hauled some wild land here two weeks ago to make another grocery store. I hate Arizona so fucking much.
SO FUCKING MUCH.
(I preferred Canada.)
>>690791434
I'm an American too, you faggots can quit bringing it up. Everywhere has ads now. China has ads. You're all weak-willed pleb trying to redefine the word 'force' like a tranny on Tumblr.
>>690791678
>no one is forcing you to do shit
>no one is saying "force"
>we're saying "inundation"
>we're saying "ads are american culture"
And you're saying no ones forcing you, implicitly admitting that we're right but no ones forcing us to participate in it. do you see where your logic is falling apart?
>>690791421
Just because you can't see a simple concept doesn't mean I don't have facts
You're missing the whole point of ads
They are there to show you something, to get your attention
The whole point of it is so you get whatever is being advertised
They need you to need it
They shove buzzwords and bait down your throat so in your subconscious you end up wanting it
Shoving screaming happy children into toy ads makes kids think that shit must be cool as fuck
And then claim you wanted it for what it was not for the ad
They gave you an illusion of choice
Ads
The whole concept is to make you want things you don't need
Cause if you actually needed it there wouldn't be an ad for it
>>690791772
So you arent negatively affecting the world? You havent ensared an animal as a pet, you dont consume electricity derived from fossil fuels, you havent shaped your land against the way nature would have had it form? Is that what you are saying? That every decision you make is one in regards to nature and are positive, because it isnt and i call horseshit on your entire belief system. You have concocted a belief system that lets you pat yourself on the back, while ignoring the real damage you do to nature. You are a hypocrite, you value nature and go to great lengths to let people know this (no one asked for your views but you gave it), but you dont consider your actual impact, you do negative things to the environment and nature just by exsisting. Enjoy the high horse.
>>690792470
/thread.
>>690775920
US has no religious history so they put freemasonry into that place.
>>690792259
Can you point out where i said ads arent american culture? Can you point out any of your claims?
>>690792788
13 years later and we're still sucking Dan Brown's dick.
>>690792259
>you're saying no ones forcing you, implicitly admitting that we're right
Yuropoor here...shut the fuck up. Russia has ads. S.E. Asia has ads. You guys do keep using the term force. Saying no one is forcing you to do anything is not proof people are forcing you to do it. You don't understand logic. The other Americans on this board are right. Ads are a business practice used globally, it's not Americans you ethnocentric tard
>>690792788
Mormons? Anabaptists? Scientology? Shamanism in locals and in the south?
>no religious history
Fucking tard
>>690793195
> Mormons
>>690792470
Still arent showing facts. Good job, m8. Ads are a part of our life, ive never claimed they werent, but you cant say they make us a bad society. Ancient rome had ads, ads have been around forever. Ads are to sell a product, but they are also there to give information. Ads arent evil. How is it an illusion of choice, when there is actually choices? This is funny, because what you claim ads are doing, you just did that with your post.
>>690792788
>US has no religious history so they put freemasonry into that place.
>no religious history
>they put freemasonry into that place
>freemasonry
>>690793440
Isn't even trying anymore
>>690792259
>>no one is saying "force"
>>690789628
>and in some way forced then I don't know what is
>>690792734
I'm not saying any of that you masive retard. Hardly any of that is possible in a consumerist society.
What I am is aware of the impact I make on this world. And I do belive I make a positive impact on this world, through advocation and my work on my farm.
That's not to say I don't make negative impacts aswell. But I belive it is more than possible for most anyone who has their basic needs cared for to do more Good than harm.
You can go fuck yourself you overly critical pig headed douchebag
>>690793618
Good one friend, keep dodging. Your point is silly and you know it. Still waiting on them facts as well
>>690793195
>>690793440
Debating the history of ads, versus justifying the use of ads to promote capitalistic ideals in a culture centered around profit.
You're all missing the fucking point. You can debate the logistics all you want, it doesn't change the fact that America is a capitalist society preying on each other to turn a profit.
>b-but everywhere has ads
Everywhere else isn't proud of it like you are.
>>690793769
>>690793618
dude you lost a while ago. i thought you were just trolling at first but it's a bit too sad at this point
Former Brit living in America here. Can't stand Euros now, tbh. They're all a bunch of edgelord autists with an undeserved superiority complex.
>>690793691
Wow, that's what you're using to justify this entire line of reasoning? Your misinterpretation of the context in which that word was used?
>forced can also mean "contrived"
So in other words, this entire thread was based on your lack of reading comprehension. Glad to know we all wasted our time justifying the use of ads throughout the ages, just because you thought "forced" meant "someones twisting my arm to comply".
>>690794056
Go on..
>>690793578
See your point.
Voodoo is superior.
>>690793727
Ah i struck a nerve huh? Did i crack open your nonsense? So again i refer to the original post you made, how can you claim op's pic makes you sick when you do/contribute to the same society? How can you claim this moral high ground when you are also destroying the environment? You control nature just like the rest of us, but you think you can claim the high ground because you grow your own food? Ha
>>690793819
you dumb nigger you were the one arguing about ads. if everyone reading this thread didn't know what point you were going for that's your inability o communicate. you kept arguing about force, ads, and declaring you know more to Americans because you're American
>>690793982
>i cant defend my arguments
>ill call it bait
Kek
>>690794420
>is trying harder
>can't
>>690777454
I don't understand why this is a webm. The package doesn't explode. An animal doesn't attack. What was the fucking point?
>>690793819
>preying
How is selling a product preying? Faggot your anti capitialism rhetoric is lame and tired.
>>690794096
>So in other words, this entire thread was based on your lack of reading comprehension. Glad to know we all wasted our time justifying the use of ads throughout the ages
Kek that was my frst post. You wasted your own time getting fucking rekted m8
>>690794252
I'm just a regular human bean, why are you holding me to such ridiculously high standards?
>>690777523
>US is dull and shallow because no common cultural roots
>wants to give a counter-argument
>picks food and amusements parks
Yup, america is that shallow.
>>690775920
>Tfw the USA is the most powerful country in the world.
>>690794546
Its ok dude, your argument was easily destroyed. Sorry you cant into logic and must scream bait. I cant wait for you to pull out pic related
>>690775920
wen i saw yur picture i though alot of muslims were praying
>>690789652
liver paste and spotted dick? youre talking about youre ancestors the british not europeans! theres more to europe than fucking england britain and germany. these countries are looked at from most of the europe with disgust. run down shitholes. the usa has great culture the problem is that niggers and arabs are fucking it up with their shit so most people cant remember real usa culture.
>>690794707
Also, Baseball and Hot Dogs.
>>690794851
Done with this childish shit
>>690794700
Because you are the one who originally took the high ground. When you implied it with your original post, we could all read the smugness you had when you posted this.>>690784977
>>690794707
>food and entertainment aren't forms of culture
wew lad :^)
Mark Twain, William Penn, Malcolm X, Rockwell. On a global scale we have music, film, art, technology, NASA, etc etc
>>690794190
I just prefer (for the most part) American culture. Euros always pretend to be experts on America, but the vast majority of them know absolutely nothing about it except what they've seen in movies and on television.
>>690795071
Then quit replying or are you just
>lol im totes baiting this guy
>>690794964
i wanted to write england, france and germany.
>>690794964
>youre talking about youre ancestors the british not europeans!
Brits are Europeans
Most white Americans have mainland Europe blood
>>690794851
>>690795122
It was more a response to that engineer autist who is probably you. That would explain why you are so deeply offended by that post.
I never implied the high ground I said I didn't like the way the suburbs are.
>>690778003
>>690778353
and they have fucking gardens.
>>690795516
No it wasnt me, but all he said was he likes straight lines and than you had to come in and break him down with your holier than thou attitude.
>la de im a naturalist and i find this appalling
Get out hipocrite
>>690795993
I think it's fucking ugly, and exploitive of the system that supports it.
And that's true.
And all you have done so far is attack my character, even though you don't know me. Because you know it's true.
>>690791078
No i am not saying that American culture in generak sucks but its traditions, and that all Americants stating that their traditions are great are pretty dumb. You basically have no traditions, from an European standpoint.
Of course European culture is as fascinating as it is, because it grew and was not just planted, but thats not Americas fault, just, at the moment, American culture is pretty dull compared to European.
>>690796337
How can you say it is Exploitive, when you do the same? This has been my whole point. This is the meat of my argument. This is what im saying about hypocrisy. And honestly if you didnt attack anon first, i prob wouldnt be having this convo with you.
>>690796518
Thats been my entire point, just give us time. We have somethings, but we have only been around for 200 years and we take in tons of different cultures every year.
>>690796680
>>690796680
Like I said, I am aware of the impact I make. I'm not perfect and by your definition I do not belive it is humanly possible for me to not be a hypocrite.
The 'meat' of your argument is solely based on this irrationality.
And it's not just that it is exploitive, life is exploitive. It's that it is over exploitive to the point of gross unsustainablity.
>>690796873
Interesting, so we two were discussing over a thing we both agreed on, just becaue i decided its 4chan, go radical and you thought fuck this guy huh?
>>690797650
But also, OP is right.
And i think USA will never decelop a personality like Europe because it assimilates and does not intigrate.
>>690797650
Pretty much
>>690797385
Ok. So you admit your hypocrisy, and now admit that calling anon a retard for his views is also uncalled for? Im not talking about this "unsustainability", im talking that originally you didnt think you were being a hypocrite. Im glad you realize this now, and will use better judgement the next time you randomly ad hom someone.
>>690798554
No, I think by your definition, not mine everyone is a hypocrite. Simply being alive isn't a choice.
>>690799235
Being alive is nearly always a choice. People almost always have the option to end their own.
>>690797926
>USA will never decelop a personality like Europe because it assimilates and does not intigrate
>personality
>Chinese, S.E. Asian, Jewish, Amish, Hispanic, and Slavic immigrants to the US contribute nothing
>literally sit around eating beans for breakfast and rolling their weed with tobacco
The U.S. over the Europ 'personality' and added some of its own. The only thing the US hasn't done yet is start world wars or burn Jews.
>Yuropoor 'personality' is a good thing
kek
>>690800391
>U.S. over the Europ
Sorry was using a partial translator to make sure my English was right and lost some through copy/pasting. It's supposed to read:
The U.S. essentially took over he European personality
>>690777165
I've also lived in japan.
Yeah everyone in public is completely emotionless.
But they're a lot more respectful and open to helping others in general.
I lived in a small town in kumamoto so the way you felt might be different?
I like to say a mix of both American and Japanese would be ideal.
>>690787839
I like how you underline the Point of what OP is trying to say but do not realise it.
Because europe had so many wars every place is different. However, in murica every town looks the Same cause the ancient roota are nowhere in the roots of the area. I am dutch and whenever i move 20 km any direction(n, e, s, w) i feel like i am in a different region. This is because every part has lived years with a border that divided the 2 regions at some point. In murica you never had that bad a difference between regions. Media was already a thing when there were still millions of immigrants coming from europe.
>>690799235
>Simply being alive isn't a choice.
Gotta a load of this newfag. kys is always an option
>>690800333
Regardless, when living in a consumerist society, you do not have the option to be a responsible consumer all the time when money is the bottom line.
Nobody can avoid the cost of living, what we can do is make a positive impact by living as responsibly as possible and showing others to do the same with your social impact
>>690800705
>However, in murica every town looks the Same
No they don't. Have you ever visited North America?
>>690794707
Obviously, you missed the part about historically rich, great architecture, music, free science and museums, and Cape Canaveral. Despite what you think, food is an important part of a culture, and where did I put amusement parks?
>>690794965
Baseball is America's pastime. It's part of our culture
>>690795157
This guy gets it
>>690783727
My house is made out of shit ass thin wall.
I can bend all of the walls with my hand if theres not a stud right behind it.
The whole house is a skeleton with paper skin. I don't know why I bother to air condition the thing, it all lets out.
It really is that bad. Fuck cheap production.
>>690801391
Let me restate that it doesnt ALL look the same but a lot of places look like OP's post. Every fucking house the same house after house.
>>690800705
>However, in murica every town looks the Same
LMAO, good one. Why don't you actually visit other areas except for New York?
>>690801935
Newer ones, sure. I'm really disappointed in that, but if you look at a lot of the ones built before the 00s, you'll see a lot of differences.
Pic related
>>690802642
I see colors
>>690775920
Yes it does. The USA is the Israeli Fifth Column.
>>690803032
Yup, but that's not what I wanted you to notice. Look at the design, Victorian
Here's Mediterranean revival style, popular in Flordia
>>690803690
Hmmm you mean plagiarism
>>690775920
a little late
but we like war... ALLOT
>>690803982
>implying that other countries don't steal from other cultures as well
Ha ha ha Fuck you Europoors. The moon wasn't to crowded .
>>690801935
>but a lot of places look like OP's post
No not really. Some developers do get contracts to build large plots around growing urban centers becaus they need housing, and they do look like shit, but that's not common.
Yes, Europe has portions of cities different from each other because you guys kept bombing and rebuilding old cities. The US is still hugely diverse globally speaking because it has excess designers and architects and didn't start two world wars in it's own backyard. Lotta Spanish/Indian designs in the South West and Florida, for instance. Wood houses and trailers are common in low SES, heavily forested areas. Basements differ from region to region depending on soil and rocks. Even the suburbs are varied
>>690803982
you mean appropriation fam? :^)
>>690794556
she drove across their front lawn, hopped out and threw the package. 'murica
>movies & television
>music
>art
>automobiles
>technology
>food
>sport
Literally all dominated by the US. But yeah, no culture, OP.
>>690776370
What? You live in home you designed and built yourself? Your somehow unique? No. You live in an apartment or development. If not then you bought an old house you had nothing to do with designing. Your not special. You are just like everyone else.
>>690787171
Cincinnati is on there, you blind fuck
>>690775920
I am from a European country with lots of cultural roots and society here is just as dull and shallow.
>>690775920
gangster rap
Europe is just the same
>>690775920
>>USA is so dull and shallow
>Produces excess majority of music, film, and porn
>Massive research grants and best colleges in the world
>Liberal arts colleges every where
>Variety of religions and denominations
>NASA
>Large number of authors and artists
>NYC is the art and fashion designer capital of the world
>huge variety of sports
>win even at the international sports we dislike
>>has no common cultural roots
Immigrants who dislike nanny states and want Europoors to fuck off
>>690805628
>>690805888
You must be from UK or Germany.
>>690806022
>finding national pride in porn
>sophisticated society
>>690775920
It seems dull and shallow if you're a) in it and b) have so far made very little attempt to experience it.
>>690806393
Greece, but it applies to any other country as well.
>>690805569
>implying its not true
>>690806393
There's a theory that neanderthals could have survived much later than we thought in the extremes of northern europe/scandiwegian countries. I think I see how that theory came about.
>>690779316
This
>>690803690
FL resident here. I used to live in houses like these.
They look like they are cement
but the inside of the paper-mache wall is god awful wooden framing, and cheap electric/piping made by non-educated immigrants.
They may look nice from the outside, but I assure you, the "masons" cut the corners on the guts and fuck every customer out of no less than 0.2 million.
Most recent example of eurocurry architecture. So cultured the mudslimes put their pinky fingers out while they are raping the local ladies.
>>690778034
Pretty much every country not in the new world
Excuse me? Americans invented Jack Daniels, they invented Coca Cola and they invented putting the two together. My kind of people.
>>690807286
I had a condo in Destin that was that style. It held up pretty decently throughout the years we owned it. There really wasn't any damage when hurricanes hit it. Maybe you were just unlucky.
>>690806765
Yah..
Finnish people are genetically the closest modern humans to Cro-magnon and closest to Neanderthal out of all European people. Some people in Asia have more Neanderthal than Finns.
FINNISH PRIDE!
