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Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
Guntards will defend this.
You can 3d print guns, so you can't ban them ty.
>>690570462
ban gun printers
cuz when they talk about banning assault rifles they're talking about banning them everywhere completely, not just in certain areas like "on an airplane"
you can't compare the two
if you're trying to say that mass shootings mean we should ban assault rifles absolutely everywhere and not just in the places that they occur at, then you must also agree that plane hijackings mean we should ban knives and box cutters absolutely everywhere, not just on planes
meaning you can't own any knives or box cutters even in your own home, or anywhere
>>690570310
should have banned planes, but that won't happen cuz libtarts like to fly. they just look for any excuse to attack the 2nd ammendmant
>>690570756
your unbelievably retarded
>>690570730
WHEN IS DA PEOPLE GONNA LEARN THAT WE NEED TO BAN THESE ASSAULT PRINTERS?????
fucking liberal pieces of shit
>>690570982
nice argument faggot
>>690570310
Will also defend having CCW on planes.
Pretty much all security experts have argued that these bans are inefficient.
>>690570310
op is a faggot
>>690570310
Orlando had already banned assault weapons from gay clubs.
>>690571230
>32,00 deaths a year from firearms
>not a gun problem
lol you must be trolling
>>690571580
>lol you must be trolling
guns don't shoot themselves
>>690571580
yeah because people who commit suicide wont find another way the rest are because of niggers. we have a nigger problem.
>>690571580
> Excessive alcohol use led to approximately 88,000 deaths and 2.5 million years of potential life lost (YPLL) each year in the United States from 2006 – 2010
time to ban alcohol too, who wants to support prohibition 2.0? Obviously alcohol kills people, so we need to ban it!!1111
>>690570730
Are you brain dead?
ITT: bunch of ameritards trying to out-yard each other. Seriously you guys are fucking ridiculous
>>690570310
you are so racist to suggest that we should ban Muslims just because of their connection to (11 and Orlando. You sicken me OP
>>690571230
your evil
>>690571821
Yeah, that worked SO WELL last time.
>you can search people and belongings before they board a plane so it's unlikely anyone will have a weapon
>therefore no need to defend yourself
>yes let's search everyone every time they leave their houses
>>690571913
Out-tard* my point remains though, between the SJW's, presidential candidates, your shitty amendment and entirely broken legislation system, America is a dying country
>>690570310
Just because Muslims attacked us multiple times doesn't mean that we should blame them all. Some of them are good people. You think that you can lump them all together and say that we should bend the constitution just to keep us safe. How blind you are
>>690572027
We all are here
Fuck off to reddit now please
>>690570746
>guns and knives are equally useful outside killing situations
>>690571636
You better check the content of your "factual" infographic before you post that again and embarrass yourself
>>690570746
You can't cut a sandwich with an assault rifle faggot
>>690571913
How can you seriously keep posting pictures that have proven fake? Christ anon, at least do some of the work yourself.
The only argument people have for guns are to usurp the governement if they take over. Except the government did that a long time ago and you can't beat drones with guns. Just check out Jim Jeffries stand up on gun control.
>>690571230
>That's 1712 in a society of 312 million people.
Where exactly does this 1712 number come from?
>>690572042
You missed the point
>>690571863
>u want 2 save lives so u must be a dum dum
Just how retarded are you?
>>690572143
Unlike Europe where many countries allow sharia laws, ban guns, and have no troubles at all. It is a peaceful haven where Muslims run around with flowers. Rapes? What are you talking about? Bombings and shootings? Never heard of that. You must be making it up. They took away the guns and the violence went away. lalalalalalalal not listening.lalalalala
>>690572315
I posted the pic because it was semi relevant, if it's fake then that's too bad. My point is >>690572143
>>690572212
>anonymous
>embarrass
>taking the chan this seriously
now that's embarrassing
>>690570310
>occupy democrats
3 million people believe their bullshit.
if someone runs over a bunch of kids at a playground with a car, should we ban all cars then?
>>690572469
And my point is
>>690572297
yeah really. women belong in the kitchen making sandwiches. When they stray outside they deserve to be assaulted. They shouldn't have the right to protect themselves. Get back in the kitchen women.
>>690572027
my evil?
Liberal logic
>>690572556
No but all cars are registered and require a license to use. Unlike guns.
>>690572500
>the chan
>>690572331
so... um... you think personal protection is a lame argument? Or you would rather ignore that little one?
>>690572564
For this picture not be ridden with irony, it cannot have been made by an american.
>>690572595
Mfw paul reviere was famous for lighting candles and not fighting.
>>690572622
you are soooo retarded. Guns ARE regulated everywhere, and every single sale requires a check. Even private sales require them to go through a dealer for a check. You just make shit up don't you?
>>690572450
terrorists will do their shit no matter what, it's a fact of life, there'll always be twats out there who just want chaos and anarchy. The fact of the matter is though that the amount of people that die from shootings in your country is silly, and how you shit brains are still oblivious to that fact is even sillier
>>690572767
as opposed to this picture where he is clearly fighting. How old are you?
>>690572767
also he never said the british are coming because they were already there
>>690572653
Whens the last time you or anyone you know actually used a gun to improve their own safety and security. Thats right. Never.
Not sayin it could never happen, just sayin that it almost never happens
>>690572595
There's a lot of broken assumptions gone into that picture.
>>690572622
Nor on private property, they don't.
Only criminals drive over bunches of kids in a playground without registration and a licence.
>>690572653
They're no protection lol. You have to be a responsible gun owner. To be a responsible gun owner you have to lock them in a safe. Where they are no protection. You don't have a protection rifle. They're assault rifles. You don't subscribe to padlock monthly. You don't give a fuck about protection. You own guns because you like them.
>>690570310
Because i dont live on an airplane...
>>690572856
>fighting
He's on a horse, pointing the opposite direction with his finger.
At the end of the day, since Im not going to shoot anyone up without provocation, the government can fuck right off. No one but me decides what I do with my body and my property. Not to mention that mass shootings only happen in places where no one else has a gun. You want to end gun violence? Decriminalize drugs, stop making so many gun free zones, and deregulate firearms in cities so the bad guys (who will always have guns) are scared to do fuckin drive-bys and muggings and rapes and indisciminate murder. Liberals have the creepiest fetish of trying to control people, stay out of my house
>>690573007
You could...
We all could...
>>690572783
I can get on Craigslist right now and buy a gun without anyone knowing and its 100% legal. Go back to class faggot.
>>690572901
He never said the british were coming because they were all fucking british.
>>690572828
Show me the stats. Show me how many of the people were shot while breaking into a home, shot while attacking someone, shot in gang violence. Then show me the number of innocent people shot. The libs lump them all together for a reason. They want to paint all shootings as equal. Most of the shootings are an argument FOR guns, not against. When a woman kills a man who is attacking her, do you mourn him?
>>690572586
the 1st step is admitting it
>>690572628
>being this new
>>690570310
let's ban drugs too, so that way people can't use drugs or get addicted to them.
Oh wait...
>>690572556
And yet, theres no way to stop someone from buying privately and using it
>>690572944
>You own guns because you like them.
>Stop liking things I don't like.
>>690573068
>ITT Americans argue against actual real lie facts
And you wonder why the rest of us laugh at your delusional patriotism and blind following of a document written in the 1700's
>>690572783
I can go to any backwoods family owned thrift shop in southwest virginia and buy a gun no questions asked. I bought a rifle rated for grizzly bears when I was 16 and the dude didn't even check my ID. I mean fuck, around here people sell guns on facebook
>>690572913
When was the last time you used your freedom of speech to improve the world, never. so get rid of it. right up there with the dumbest things ever said. Tell Obama that he hasn't ever used the secret service to protect himself so get rid of them. I once had a gay man break into my home and attempt to assault me. I know that sounds crazy but it really happened. Don't tell me that I dont have the right to protect myself.
>>690573321
Are these numbers legit?
>>690573335
>idk what im talking about
>>690571230
>Only 4% of gun deaths are justified
>>690570310
You act like it'll be impossible to get your hands on a gun once they're banned.
First ammendment states I can say the second ammendment sucks dicks.
>>690573473
no
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004615.html
>>690573273
>the chan
>>690573595
you can leave anytime you like.
>>690572944
where do you live? What is the rate of crime there? I have the feeling that you say these things because you live a sheltered life where the police are 2 minutes away and daddy is right up stairs. The world isn't like that everywhere and never will be. Do you even care about the people that live outside your little bubble?
>>690573335
>stop liking death machines
>>690572913
Over 900,000 in the US in 2009, bitch. Thats nearly 1/5 of violent crimes that same year. Dont like guns? Dont own one, but dont tell me why, if, and how I should own one (or 100), and eat my manpussy
>>690573528
If we regulate who the manufacturer distributes certain weapons to they will be harder to get. A gun that costs 1000 dollars will cost 34k on the black market.
>>690573415
Real life* forgot pic
>>690573473
yes
>>690570310
>thinking 9/11 and similar events have anything to do with weapons
You forgot the #notallmuslims tag you fucking sjw retard
>>690573017
ahhhh I see now. How factually incorrect. Obviously designed to sway innocent young minds.
>>690573068
>what I do with my body and my property.
Well there's a lot of regulation on prostitution and animal sex and ownership of explosives and toxic gases that would argue against your claim there buddy.
>>690573717
I own a gun and I have never killed anyone. Why should my guns be taken away.
Death happens and is a part of life. get over it.
>>690573528
Shouldn't by that logic nothing ever be banned if the criminals can just get it anyway
>>690573595
>First ammendment states I can say the second ammendment sucks dicks.
Correct. The first amendment protects even the most retarded of our citizens.
>>690573473
We;;, the last figures I heard were about 13,000 a year, so 13k times 50 = 650,000
I guess things must have been really bad back in the 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s. This century seems to be going really well though.
>>690573610
Actually that does confirm the 1.2 million number. Looking for just deaths not casualties. Add up the death numbers for all American Wars
>>690573528
You'd be surprised how much more difficult it would be, especially for younger people looking more into the school shooting range. That being said, pipe bombs am-I-right?
>>690573086
hahahahahha no you can't. You might buy an illegal gun on craigslist. If you want to pretend that you can then I dare you to do it. It isn't possible. You have to pass a background check.
>>690573086
Mfw no you cant
>>690573679
Tl;dr
Eat a bag of dicks lol
>>690573847
>I guess things must have been really bad back in the 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s
>This century
you don't know what a decade is do you?
>>690571230
>4% are justified
How do you justify killing someone with a firearm?
I'm asking as a scandinavian here, so I might be hard to convince, but I'd still like to hear it.
>>690573893
Troll harder faggot.
>>690573723
>900,000
Right...
>>690570310
>assault weapons
Man shills love using terms that don't actually apply to situations. Man I love it :^)
>>690571756
"Would you say you got a nigger problem?"
>>690573086
I notice you very quickly drop any argument you lose. How convenient. how very liberal of you
>>690573893
>>690573896
Samefagging
>>690570746
why would you even need an assault rifle anyway?
>>690574021
You still responding to the same post lol?
>>690573799
If you actually believe this then you're a fucking retard
>>690573748
Why does it exclude Mexico? They've got pretty strict gun control there, don't they?
>>690572042
what makes you think a gun ban will be different from alcohol prohibition?
>>690570310
1. The presence of knives or liquids in an amount greater than 3oz did not cause nor did it contribute to the 9/11 hijackings.
2. I defy you to prove any link beyond a simple correlation that the ban of knives and liquids in an amount greater than 3oz has prevented further terrorist attacks.
>>690572331
>taking hyperbole used for the sake of hyperbole as a proufound revelation.
yeah he sounds good but nope im not being overrun. you DO know that war is real...r-right?
>>690573799
>i own a nuke and ive never nuked anyone why should my nuke be taken away
your retared
>>690572447
That means stopping printing all together, you can't stop the production of printing, good luck though. (Not the person you're responding to)
>>690573748
Why are liberals obsessed with only body count. Look at the rate of rape and all violent crime in these western countries. Also, using words like patriotic just makes you sound like a tool. I hate our government, Im just a free man who isnt a cuck
>>690573898
well that sure put me in my place. I spose I will just wait for someone to break into your home and chop your dick off and put it in a bag for me. I am sure when you tell him that you have no guns he will run away scared.
>>690574024
sorry, wrong. I posted first, not second
>>690574021
I notice you have mindset of a wounded gopher. How very conservative of you. Remember that you and your gun are insignificant to the robot flying 20k feet in the air with explosives.
Requesting the gun safety check flow chart
>>690574235
no just stop printing guns you idiot
>>690572343
Subtracting all the numbers from 32k
>>690574087
every argument you have made has been lost. You should just leave while you still have your balls. Oops sorry, you lost those too
Those bans and the TSA implementation only catch a very small fraction of forbidden things, so future attacks are still likely. It makes people feel better, but isn't really effective. These precautions also add a lot of time to air travel. To me, the trade off isn't worth it. Similarly, if you ban guns, they will still be available, just harder to get. Countries like France with strict gun control still have had mass shootings. To me, it is not worth it to eliminate the second amendment for a small reduction in gun violence that will not eliminate the problem.
Love this argument, a box cutter or a knife has a purpose outside of killing things, an assault rifle is a machine designed with the specific purpose of killing or incapacitating as many people as possible as accurately and effectively as possible.
Also there is no plausible self defense reason for anyone to own an AR-15 or anything even close to that, what are you fighting a Fucking army of wild wolves? I get owning pistols, shotguns and bolt rifles, they can't do anyway near the damage an assault rifle can but an assault rifle isn't something in my opinion a standard civ should be able to have.
>>690573679
No him, but I live in Denmark.
We've been cutting so much funding for the coppers that domestic break-ins rarely are solved, and calling them if you've been robbed is a waste of time.
But then there hardly isn't any violence or robbery. Just domestic break-ins by organized Polish gangs in trucks. We're trying to curb that but, eh, everybody's insured anyway.
>>690573748
Guess how many more people live in America than live in those other countries.
Proportionally, there are more gun related murders in other countries.
>>690573785
Laws are peices of paper, if we dont follow them, they will be forced to repeal. Look at the (legit) social justice movement in the 1960s
>>690574216
At least it bumps and pushes other really shitty threads down...
>>690574351
I am more worried about people like you trying to break into my home. Tell me honestly. What crimes have you committed?
>>690573748
Pffft the scale of that graph is hilarious. The purposely left out anything beyond the US so they can make it look as bad as possible.
>>690574099
It doesnt include mexico and other countries because it wouldnt make the US look as bad. When you cherrypick your stats and make a graph thats misleading you leave out what doesnt suit your needs.
>>690570310
You used to be able to take knives onto planes before 911?
>>690574556
Here's your right.
>>690573931
I think he does. He mentioned a set of decades. Then he mentioned the current century, which so far spans the last to decades that he didn't mention.
>>690574420
This one?
>>690574508
Denmark went the route of socialism, right? I mean in the past 30 years or so they really screwed themselves. Now the country is broke and can't pay for even police... but I could be wrong. I might have my northern euro countries mixed up.
>>690573944
If someone means you or persons around you harm, it would be justifiable to use lethal force (be it fists, feet, bat, or gun)
>>690570746
end thread..good job anon
>>690574711
How do guns defend against bombs? Just curious.
The only reason people even have to ban them is because we can't just grow up and disarm. There are plenty of ways to defend yourself that don't use firearms. Especially at home. We need to stop manufacturing, people say that people that want guns will still get them, we associate owning a gun with freedom, like somehow an AR-15 is going to stop an F-16 or a drone strike. Realistically you'll never use the thing for more than sport, which you could could do at a facility built for as such. The only reason people fuck with you is because you have implied you don't give a shit about them. IE come here and I'll shoot you to death just for existing on land I've claimed. (Don't get me started on dirt naming) we need to decide globally that guns are a waste of time, energy, and metals resources. We stop selling bullets in punlic stores period.
>"Well I can make my own"
Yeah in six months, it likely won't even work, and way to buy a cnc machine, a lathe, and bascially become a blacksmith and an alchemist. Instead of just being dipshit trash stocking paychecks.
>>690574842
I got it. Let's use bombs against bombs. We can call it the cold civil war.
>>690574275
>the likelihood of that happening vs. the likelihood of a potential firearm being misused
But then, the U.S. basically operates entirely on irrational fears by now anyway.
>>690573944
Do you have a wife? a mother? a girlfriend?
>>690574842
shoot the bomb operator/thrower.......
>>690574742
All us scandies are socialists.
We're not broke yet, though.
Norway and Finland are actually scary rich.
We're jealous.
>>690574984
It breaks my heart knowing that you are more than likely an adult and think that you're going to know they have a bomb. It has never worked. Hence all of the bombings. Also it's too bad they didn't shoot the pilots on the planes during 9/11
>>690574935
yep cuz nooooooone wants to invade us. certainly not EVERYONE except europe.
>>690570310
Yet flights have not become safer by any measure or statistics.
>>690575216
Why'd you put an e at the end of noon?
>>690574935
So at what point does irrational fear become rational? Is it when 10% of women are raped? Or when 5% of homes are broken into? Who gets to decide the cutoff point? A government panel? So they would say the President is in enough danger, he gets a gun. You people in the Hamptons are well protected, you don't need them. You people in Detroit are expendable so you don't need them either.
>>690574828
>>690574947
In danish law, you're always only allowed to defend yourself with means equal in force to those of your assailant.
You can't hit a handsy guy in the park over the head with a bat.
You can't swing a decorative sword at a cabby with a pocket knife who followed you up the stairs.
You can't shoot a couple jewel thieves who overpowered you and tried to tie you up with duct tape in the back with a hunting rifle on their way out of the store.
All of these are real cases of people defending themselves, but subsequently facing punishment for violence.
>>690575200
how would i not know where the drone operators are? they would definitely be at some sort of o.p. you know.
>HURR DURR NO ONE HAS EVER >OVERRUN HEAVY ARTILLERY WITH A >RIFLE HERPPPPP
>>690575294
0 planes hijacked since then. You're wrong.
>>690574874
Yeah, because your ideal little world has no criminals. No guns? Great! I'll just break in and stab you to death before looting your house. The cops won't be showing up with guns, so what's the concern? You say it's still easy to defend your home? Easy for a 70 year old lady to stop 3 25 year old thieves? I don't fucking see how, but I guarantee you if she grabs a shotgun, bullets or not, as soon as those thieves hear it "loading" they'll run
>>690575451
You think you're going to use a semiautomatic firearm to take down the military? The people who actually own fully automatic weapons. Be my guest dumbass. Looks like this problem can sort itself out easier than I thought.
>>690575440
Well that's not the kind of legislative decisions I'd want to get into.
I'm just saying that assuming someone will come into your home and cut off your dick, because you don't have a gun, and that this would have been prevented if you did, isn't a very healthy state of zeitgeist.
>>690575441
So Danish law puts the weak and women in higher danger? It allows the strong to use a minimal of weaponry to their advantage. What a fucked up system that doesn't protect the innocent.
>>690574842
>How do guns defend against bombs?
With bomb control laws, right?
>>690572042
_Point_
------------
Your head
>>690570310
Assault rifles make up less than 10% or even less than that of gun related killings. Your argument is retarded. Its hand guns that are the problem. They are even more dangerous because you can hide them easier.
>>690575082
oil wealth?
>>690575553
0 american planes.
>>690575653
>HERP DERP NO ONE HAS EVER >OVERRUN A MACHINE GUN NEST >WITH A RIFLE HERPPPPPPP
>>690575570
>shotgun
>bullets
>arguing against gun control
You absolute fucking cretin.
>>690575570
Or they'll take it and rape her with it
Protip: one of these things happened, guess which one?
They raped her with her own gun.
I'm Canadian, and I really enjoy listening to insane right wing American talk radio. It's illuminating in terms of trying to understand why these batshit crazy gun nuts think the way they do. Interesting arguments:
1. Making guns illegal will not keep criminals from getting guns, because criminals by definition skirt or break the law (Rush Limbaugh favorite).
>doesn't know what a red herring is
>ignores the fact the guns used in Charleston, Fort Hood, San Bernadino, Orlando, etc. were purchased legally, making the black market purchase argument moot
2. If more law-abiding citizens had guns, more tragedies would be avoided.
>do you even history?
>the US has guns fucking everywhere, and these people target vulnerable places where guns are either not allowed, or the context is so absurd that there would not or should not be guns there
>the only thing better than one person opening fire in a loud, dark bar, is two hundred drunk, high faggots returning fire
3. The Second Amendment is a constitutional guarantee of the right to carry guns at all times.
>do they actually teach people in US schools or just feed them?
>this amendment was made at a time when the British were deemed an invading army, notwithstanding they assisted with the founding of the nation and provided nearly all its original immigrants
>the purpose of the amendment was to allow the US to have an organized militia capable of defending itself against a tyrannical, invading army, not so that you could shoot people who scare you
>in 2016, the US has an organized militia, the fucking US Army, Navy, Air Force, National Guard, Coast Guard, Border Patrol, etc. and about a million police organizations
I love you, America. Never change.
(You won't.)
>Have governments been too corrupt
Yes
>Have people over thrown the government
Yes
>did it require violence
Yes
>are liberals faggots
Yes
>>690573473
*yes*
>>690575700
You could put it that way. But then a lot of people learn jiujitsu. And we don't have that much violence against the weak in the first place.
So maybe we're lucky like that.
Or we make sure that not half of our population lives in desperation and/or on the street.
>>690574874
This is the dumbest most niave thing i have seen posted in a long time. I guess when everyone on the planet magically decides peace is the answer and decide to work together on a global scale to end violence and strife ill be left behind not trusting any of them. After all people are natually good natured and looking out for the rest of humanity. Right? Everyone can just stop murdering eachother over stupid shit overnight because we are all just one giant happy race of perfect little children.
Humanity is a giant steaming pile of rancid shit. Expecting anything good from anyone ESPECIALLY groups of people is just looking for trouble. The only way to survive is to look out for yourself and those you directly care about and the only way to do that is to be able to defend yourself. This is the way of the world and just because you want a giant hugbox doesnt mean its going to happen.
Asking the armed to grow up is funny considering your the one not opening your eyes to the world around you and seeing it for what it is. The world is not a pretty place and if you think it is you might be the one needing to grow up.
>>690575868
Great post.
>>690575653
>what is a bolt action rifle
You know the M24 is bolt action and is used to kill other soldiers? You know every anti material rifle with the exception of a few, are bolt action and can shoot your head off through a pane of armored glass?
It's not hard to kill a soldier with a non-automatic weapon
lol
then why are we letting people cross borders so casually without checking them
>>690575689
was responding to a retard who lost his argument and turned to insults. I appreciate that you don't want to get into legislature, but that is exactly what your reasoning leads to, somebody smarter than me gets to decide if my risk makes gun ownership legit. Look there have been women who have died because they applied for a gun and were on the waiting list when attacked by their stalker.
>>690575082
>We're not broke yet though
That's weird. China, the US, India and Russia seem to have the largest congruence/population of multi-million/billion-ares.
Europe has no money. It's why four of the EU member states are collapsing, and one of those is collapsing so horribly it borrows 57 billion Euros a year from the IMF.
Tfw I can't smoke a fucking cigarette anywhere but you think I give a shit about you having to give up guns so there are no more gun surplus.
>>690575868
weve also gone to war with mexico several times since then (and arguably the large cartels currently) and had a civil war since then.
>>690570982
You're
>>690575441
In USA as long as you feel your life is in danger you can use lethal force. Best part is all you have to do is kill them then its your word against a dead man. Pretty much legal murder. I love USA
>>690575750
For Norway, yes. Oil and arms deals. And free hydroelectricity.
For Finland it's just good schools and and a neatly managed workforce producing a high output og specialized medical equipment and immaterial rights.
>>690575940
And it probably helps that the government is controlled by a single party which also controls the media. Probably very reassuring when the media tells you that there isn't any violence to worry about.
There will always be bad people. Sometimes we can stop them with weapons sure. Most of the time no one will be there and not everyone is ready to take a human life even if they have the means to do so. You can't ban weapons and expect them to disappear but they will become scarce but people will always find a way to mass murder people. You can't stop it. If you want to take over the government though you need to outsmart them. We won the revolution by using Geurilla Warfare we learned from a french guy. You cant expect your Rank and volley to beat flying robots with explosives and you cant expect it to beat trained killing machines with fully auto weapons. You'll need a better strategy. Like moving to another continent, killing their natives, and then building an army against the people who sent you. Thats honestly your best bet.
>>690574070
>need need need need need
Why does anybody need anything except food and shelter?
>>690576264
Why do we need to live once we've had children and raised them? I vote old people should off themselves once their oldest child turns 18.
>>690576129
Some places like Iceland benefit from monocultures. They don't have to deal with troublemaker groups like how Muslims are becoming in much of Europe. Is there a fear of what will happen there with Muslims?
>>690573748
But is anyone actually looking at what these numbers mean? 3.3 homocides per 100,000 peple. ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND. An interesting fact is that since 1993 the US gun homocide rate has been cut in half. And that is after Bill Clinton's retarded ass ban was lifted
>>690575948
I'm sorry for not being a pessimistic, cynical, apathetic son of a bitch. I'm sorry your parents didn't love you enough bro, but much like a redneck family fued, your way has no end. You gave up on humanity, good for you. The fact that you have already conceded to "that's just the way it is" already shows me how weak you really are. You need your gun like Linus needs his blanket. Seriously, tolerate each other, I'm so fucking happy with my life ever since I let go of all my grudges and hatred. Maybe you could learn a thing or two.
>>690576004
Like I said man, be my guest. I betcha you'll be great.
>>690576379
Not off themselves. That puts too much responsibility in the individual. The government should do it... for the greater good of course
>>690571087
bans and restrictions rarely make sense. it is just there to please and calm down the stupid masses. 3 ounces of a liquid explosive will kill all passengers of an airplane, so the only reason it doesn't happen on a daily basis is that the world is not insane yet, but people really think it was the "increased security" at airports.
>>690570310
why can't we understand the connection between islam and terrorism?
>>690570310
Can we see that muslims are causing all this? Or would that make sjw's have to see a psychologist?
>>690575780
I bet you own a fully autistic rifle don't ya?
As long as someone wants another person dead, whether it be a single person or several, people will kill. No matter if guns are available or not
>>690575860
Well excuuuuuuuuse me for being too lazy to write shells.
>>690576473
Lmao you are possibly the most ignorant, retarded government lover i've ever seen
Look at the IRA - their snipers killed almost a dozen FULLY TRAINED AND ARMED BRITISH SOLDIERS
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Armagh_Sniper_(1990%E2%80%9397)
Guess how you use a sniper? You can't spray from hundreds of meters away. You are going to be shooting selectively, equivalent to the rate of fire of a bolt action rifle.
Oh, and look at Afghan snipers - how many american soldiers they have killed with their shitty 20 year old SVDs
To quote Jim Jefferies, there is only one argument for Americans to have guns. It's not necessarily a bad argument, but it's the only one. And it is, "I like guns." Besides gun control works in Australia. 18 mass shootings in the 20 years before gun control was brought in. 0 since then. Get it?
>>690576531
>>690576548
we can see the connection between islam and terrorism. But not all mass shootings, non mass shootings, murders, robberies, accidental shootings, murder suicides, suicides and the other 11000 deaths a year int he us (plus all the injuries) are caused by muslims.
>>690570310
And retards believe this.
>>690575868
Wrong. On the Second Amendment.
But the right idea.
The "tyrannical, invading army" doesn't have to be foreign.
Jefferson said "The tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots. It is its' natural manure."
Founding fathers spoke of rebelling against a government that became too big and powerful. A government large enough to provide everything you need is also strong enough to take away everything you have, Something Canada and, specifically Europe, are getting a painful lesson on.
There is no better example of this than North Korea. The state provides EVERYTHING. They can also take it away at the snap of a finger.
The second amendment is a provision to protect against such tyranny, both FOREIGN and DOMESTIC. Now since Canada thinks it's health care system is amazing (it isn't, I got broken ribs set in Calgary a few years back) and Europe has been lied to by being told 4 million middle-eastern Refugees WON'T shoot up concert halls, you guys have been (there is no better word for this) cuck'd into complacency. You don't have a choice anymore. I know guys in the bush carry guns, but that ain't hardly enough barrels to stop your PM from sinking you economy further into regression with more free trade deals, downsizing your military and selling your natural resources to the highest foreign bidder.
Let me paint this for you one other way:
Russia invades Canada.
Canada has a moderate-small military and the citizens, by and large, do not have the right to keep and bare arms. Vast expanses of unsolicited land that would allow Russia to establish strong footholds on Canadian soil. What's the outcome?
Now, parallel universe; Russia invades the United States.
America has an insanely well-funded military and its citizens can all, potentially, bare arms.
Do you think Russia will want to chance that, that stagnant urban fighting with armed civilians in EVERY city across America?
>>690575861
And not having guns helps how? Apparently you're too thick to realize criminals will still be criminals, with or without guns.
>>690574119
Op is an idiot as the liquid rule did not show up until well afterwards. It was more tied to the shoebomb incident if anything. Now to the blade rule, I did remember a significant change after 911
>>690576465
You wouldnt survive 5 minutes in anywhere that isnt some kind of middle class suburb. If you think that believing super duper hard that people are good will stop someone from shanking your ass for your pocket change or for being a certain race or dressing a certian way then go for it. When you grow up in a low income area that regularly has people show up missing only to be found raped and dumped in a ditch or stabbed because their meth deal went bad its hard to have any faith in anyone. Even more so when you look at history and its all just theft murder and bigotry. People wont change because they cant. As soon as people start to believe as you do those that dont swoop in kill them and take their shit. Its nature.
>>690572447
You can't ban printing dumb fuck
Your the reason people are shot
>>690570462
3d printed gun will still be banned. Doesnt mean people wont do it. That being said id rather people have 3d printed shit tier pistols that can fire like 1 or 2 .22 rounds than an ar.
>>690576784
You skipped over the part where these guys are trained to kill other people trained to kill people and you are self trained in arguing on the internet. You don't have what it takes man. I'm sorry. They'll just noscope ya call of duty style.
usa doesnt have a gun problem,
It has an african american problem
>>690570746
You cant seriously be that retarded. Mass shootings can occur ANYWHERE a plane hijakcing BY DEFINITION can only occur on a plane so of course theyre only banned there.
>>690577096
are you trained in being retarded? Where do I go to become as proficient in it as you are?
Afghans don't get training. They pick up a gun and shoot it. Guns were made so even the most braindead person can kill someone else.
>>690576861
That worked when it was muskets.
>>690570310
Niggers with pistols do 95% of all gun kills
>>690576940
Shit dude I feel sorry for you. That's fucking depressing as shit. I hope I never become that fucking hopeless and depressing
>>690571230
Still more gun deaths per capita than any 1st world nation. Do you enjoy being a shit tier neanderthal nation?
>>690576793
Thank you. Love Jim Jeffries.
>>690576940
This.
Honestly its nice to think people are all good when you live in a fenced in neighborhood. But people suck, and you can chalk this up anyway you want, poverty, racism, etc. But the fact remains; there will always, always be violence. You cant regulate safety, you cant regulate prosperity. And by banning weapons, you give the criminals the upper hand.
>>690577339
No worries, it's one of my favorite bits of comedy
>>690571285
If they werent easily obtainable through legal channels there wouldnt be thousands of illegally purchased second purchase guns floating around. Wouldnt have been so easy to obtain, and that may have made all the difference.
>>690570462
actually its already illegal to even own 3d printer format gun schematics let alone printed ones.
There used to be a fair amount of them on tor though i think
>>690576800
I'm pretty sure the percentage of muslims in the us who support terrorism and isis is higher than the percentage of whites who shoot up schools or blacks who rob liquor stores. And we're not even taking the shock value and the potential damage a bombing can cause.
Also suicides wtf how the fuck is that even relevant here?
>>690577239
yeah cuz murder and genocide in america was LESS COMMON 200 years ago. do you even history?
>>690577300
Yes. Yes i do, because gun crime isnt that big of a deal here in the states.
>>690577434
So the guy that actually did the shooting isn't at fault in the least, right?
>>690571230
So we should ban niggers from owning guns?
>>690577300
when adjusted for population its actually not the worst for mass shootings
>>690577436
>its illegal
Yeah and its illegal to kill people, funny how making something illegal doesnt mean it wont happen
>>690577236
Apparently I could get trained by you
>living in a hostile environment
>vs living in a suburb
Sounds like they have been trained since they could hold a gun.
Also guns require precision to fire you fucking dolt. You have ro calculate your breath, depth perception, wind direcrion and speed. It's not point and shoot unless you live in florida and plan on blasting apart a night club filled with gay people.
>>690577459
> percentage of muslims in the us who support terrorism and isis is higher than the percentage of whites who shoot up schools or blacks who rob liquor stores
Bit of a fallacy there, supporting an act isn't the same as doing an act. How many blacks WANT to rob a store? How many white WANT to shoot someone?
If you're comparing people who have committed the act, compare the number of actual terrorists to the robbers and white school shooters and you'll get a fairer number
thanks for this guys, this should be enough for my essay
>>690571665
Dude saying its not a gun problem because guns dont shoot themselves is rediculous. See how well a mass stabbing would go for the attacker. They happen alot and have maybe a couple casualties max. Not to mention its a fact that having a gun psychologically makes you more prone to aggression. If you are equipped with someone that will end any fight in a second why would you not be more aggressive? Even carrying a knife does that but to a lesser extent
>>690577642
I'm not talking about becoming a fucking Navy SEAL sniper, i'm talking about killing someone. Just shoot the fucker from 50m away, you don't need any damn calculations for that aside from point and shoot
>>690571230
>1712
Have no clue what that is meant to represent?
>4% are justified
In what sense are they justified? guntards fill me in
>>690577489
Do you even comprehend lol? What you said is completely irrelevant. Non sequitur man.
>>690571580
Do you have any idea how small that number is, you fucking imbecile? Drunk driving kills more. Heart attacks kill more.
>>690577733
Do you believe what you just posted?
>>690577613
That would solve about 70% of gun-related crime, by volume.
Banning niggers themselves would also help.
Black people in society, niggers on plantations. Cheaper produce prices at market, give the monkeys direction and structure, and the black people that want to actually contribute to humanity can continue to do so.
>>690577434
Really, because having more FBI agents would've ACTUALLY PREVENTED IT considering they knew about him but didn't have the resources to do anything in time. And he was denied ammunition and body armor from the gun store that called the FBI. So if he had only been obtaining things illegally, odds are good he would've been off the radar completely until it happened
>>690570462
so what? Very few people will do it, so the number of guns in circulation will be small, so many fewer deaths by gunshot - suicide, muder, murdersuicide, accidental deaths, and of course criminal deaths. Just because something is not 100% effective does not mean that it is not worth doing at all - like brushing your teeth - you may still get caries, bt if you dont do it at all you will have bad breath and they will all rot. now brush you teeth, dogbreath.
>>690577693
>college freshman psychological analytics
this gun b gewd
>>690572450
Less people die in Europe due to actual fucking terrorist attacks by funded international cells than die in america due to gun violence.id wager even with the paris attacks more people have died in chicago from guns than in paris this year.
>>690577733
You rolled a 2. It's a miss. You have to wait a turn before you can shoot again. Sorry bro.
>>690577436
I was under the impression it was still legal. Last i heard the entire gun had to contain no metal at all for it to be illegal. All ive seen still use metal barrels and fittings so they arent applicable to this. You can also still get polymer AR lowers which by definition are the firearms by law.
>>690577799
But that's raysist
>>690570756
yeah any excuse. Like 11000 people a year being killed. and many more injured. Yeah, we are just desperately looking for a good excuse, but we have to put up with only having lousy reasons like that.
>>690572595
Conservative logic is as follows: "im the coolest and bravest! If a bunch of guys suddenly burst in with assault rifles id totally be calm enough to take em all down pew pew!"
>>690570310
and banning all that shit was dumb then too, we should have just banned mudslimes
>>690577733
Have you ever used a gun?
>>690577792
Yes I do, because i've shot targets from 50m away and with a rifle it isn't hard to hit unless you are a spastic
When will you be fighting people further than 50-100m away in the US?
Please, enlighten me on how invincible our murican super soldiers are, that you can shoot them from 50m away and they will still live
>>690577873
Yes, and that means we have a drug problem not a gun problem. Our government has incitivised violence by making drug trafficking and trade very lucrative.
>>690570310
how is your whole ban the thing called killing other human beigns getting alogn by the way?
just about everything jim jefferies says in that vid is false,
Like australia got rid of all its guns?
Australia has more guns now than it ever did before the SEMI AUTOMATIC buy back.
Just about all guns used in crime are still illegally owned. Meaning that the laws had more or less no effect on anything besides maybe suicide by gun rates for 5 years.
Australia had no real mass shootings and the only proper one it had was so full of insane inconsistencies that one couldn't possible draw the conclusion it actually happened. The guy who supposidly did it cant even function in society, yet somehow has 10/10 head shot from the hip ability from 50m+
America doesn't have a gun problem it has a society problem. Where its every man for themselves and people more or less throw money at a giant money pit, which is pretty much negro existance and try and hope for the best.
The only places in america with gun free designation have the highest instances of gun crime. Also pretty much all black.
But you know you cant ever solve that problem without stating the truth, so just try and patch up some of the symptoms and just make life more annoying for good honest people.
>>690572783
Nope youre wrong. No dealer checks at gun shows and in some states you dont need one at all
>>690578049
So when you shoot those targets from 50m you just point and pull the trigger?
>>690571665
so yea... americans are so used to guns they lack common sense, it comes down to only that
long term gun use - used to gun violence and justification to defend it. Its like fucking Stockholm syndrome with you guys
>>690577693
Your entire post is an opinion, not a single fact to base your argument on.
>saying its not a gun problem because guns dont shoot themselves is rediculous
And my opinion is thinking that guns cause people to go on a spree killing is just as ridiculous.
>>690578049
You could ask the rest of the world.
>>690573068
/thread, for me. Im done folks, this anons has expressed my views. Peace yall
>>690578102
>no dealer checks at gun shows
When was theblast time you went to one? All dealers check, you are thinking of p2p sales.
If everyone on the planes had boxcutters, 9/11 never would have happened. Boxcutters should be mandatory, IMO. If everyone was trained in boxcutter use, terrorists wouldn't dare fuck with anyone on a plane.
>>690577774
k tard.
>guns have become more advanced than muskets
>war murder and genocide have decreased per capita in the u.s.
>second amendment is no less effectivr and probably more...even tho its not muskets
how fucking cock gobbling stupid are you?
>>690578146
>americans
Why are you even here debating laws and life in the US? No one fucking asked you
>>690577646
Supporting isn't the same as wanting to do something. Iirc 35% of muslims admittedly see nothing wrong with what isis is doing. These are people with the right to vote. They also go out and protest against free speech and other liberties, and many muslim store owners still follow the line in the q'uran that says something like "if you make money from selling stuff to non muslims you must donate a percentage of your earnings to whoever the fuck is currently working on conquering the world and making everyone follow islam".
I guess I should have said it like "the percentage of muslims who have ties to isis, engage in acts of terrorism, support isis financially, or are willing to vote against proposals that would negatively impact the activities of isis"
>>690578274
>flight 93
Neat. Funny how violence can be adverted with violence
>>690578354
Still replying to a statement you didn't understand? I'm still waiting for you to figure it out.
>>690573068
This.
This.
100 times this.
>>690577873
and chicago is the most gun controlled city in our country. and iys almost all pistol crime. and its nearly 100 percent nigger gangs. so i guess take away rifles from whites everywhere? thatll help.
>>690571756
actually, people who use guns to attempt suicide are much more likely to succeed. if they try other methods they often fail. Guns make suicide more certain. They also make it more likely. It is easy (and a well publicised trope) to shoot yourself. It only takes a moment of courage to pull the tigger. Cutting yourself is fucking painful. Hanging yourself needs preparation. Easy access to a gun makes suicide easier - people act impulsively and quickly. also, murder suicide, domestic murder and road rage killings - all go up with gun access. Not stop being a heartless fuck tard and be human for a moment. think - and think about the effects of suicide on other people. grow up and be responsible - and support gun control.
>>690578355
Because Europeans haven't had rights in 1700 years, for the most part.
It's jealousy.
>>690578583
2/10 but will get replies
>>690574711
thanks for posting that
>>690578354
See when we were fighting the revolutionary war 300 years ago everyone had the same weapons. You don't own military grade anything. You don't own a fucking apache helicopter. You don't own fucking drones, you don't own tanks, you don't own fully automatic weapons. You aren't going to use the second ammendment for jack shit other than hurka durka I have a gun. Go ahead and stage your little coup and realize that you're stupid as fuck.
>>690574111
alcohol is easy to make at home, and desired by a large part of the population. Guns are not easy to make at home, nor is ammunition, and most people do not wwant a gun. So unlike prohibition where the vast majority of people became lawbreakers and had sympathy for lawbreakers, gun control would not result in thousands of backyard gun shops and people sympathising with poor gun nuts who can't buy their ammo any more. You don't see people popping a few .22 rounds at the end of a hard day to relax in movies - for a reason - only gun nuts do that.
>>690578583
i know exactly where you are quoting from and its BS.
Besides people have the right to kill themselves if they want. Who are you to say that they shouldn't.
Would be a pretty boring world if we controlled people that much
>>690575868
the militia is all able bodied men
>>690578811
Yes goyium, the government is impossible to overthrow. Now go watch more youtube videos.
>not realizing our society is held together with duct tape and good vibes
This year
>264 children aged 0 - 11 yo killed in shootings
no problems here fug :DDDDD
>145 mass shootings
Guntards will defend this
sauce is gunviolencearchive
>>690578811
I've never seen a liberal that sounds more racist than a radically-right conservative..until today.
There it is ladies and gentlemen. This /b/ro right here is an example of how the radical left Liberal ideology not only encompasses the radical left, but mirrors the radical right.
I'm done. That's literally enough internet for me today.
>>690575868
>I'm Canadian
>but let me tell you about your own country
>>690578942
The militia is our military lol.
>>690578811
yeah those bird guns americans had sure did equal british cavalry and cannons. faggot. then, as now like afghanistan repeatedly proves, taxtics and home ground can defeat superior numbers and weapons. but rifles help. do u even war bro?
>>690578008
yeah, i should be more like you and shave my balls and asshole so I can take pictures of myself in a skirt in hopes that someone might fuck me before killing me.
fullproof plan
>>690579085
Military != militia.
Militiamen != servicemen.
You must read more books and watch less Game of Thrones, young one.
>>690577873
You are including suicides and accidenta. Neither of those should be considered gun violence. Also, we have more niggers which are the reason the numbers are so high.
>>690579001
I'm glad you are leaving with your tail tucked inbetween you legs like the dog you are. Just remember to fetch when master calls.
>>690578889
and yet the police are doing their damnest to prevent suicides, even by force in necessary
Cum and Suck em!!!
>>690572856
actually he was famous for runnin away and leaving his command, and spent years dodging trial for mutiny and desertion in the face of the enemy. Do some history, not reading poetry and looking at pretty pictures, idiots.
