How do we fix millennials?
WW3
>>690315542
More of the chick on the left
>>690315542
get them a father , preferably one which isn't gay
Nuclear bomb
>>690315542
Delete system 32
>>690315542
We start spanking our children again. This is what happens when people insist "physical punishment is child abuse."
>>690315542
War, famine, disease. I'm cool with any, really.
>>690315542
>>690315542
>shoot all baby boomers into space
>literally nobody on earth will be complaining about millennials anymore
(Except "muh le generation suxx :(( xd", of course, but we'll shoot those assholes into space to jerk off the baby boomers)
Reeducation camps or death camps. Flip a coin, I don't give a fuck which one.
>>690315542
How do we fix older people generalizing an entire age group ignorantly with one word
With hate, beatings, Authoritarian parenting, making them feeling like shit, Mass stereotyping and systematic segregation of certain peoples.
Thats the kind of shit that people in this thread is going to suggest, and its hilarious because you all act like these kinds of people are the first ones. There have been weirdos all throughout history. 50 years ago people who read comic books were looked down upon like these guys. Then it was the hippies, then it was the computer geeks, now its whatever.
You should try realizing that your way of thinking isn't necessarily 100% right, we're all human beings capable of making mistakes. I can assure you the people in that picture will look back in 10 years time and cringe internally.
>>690315989
Let's shoot you into space with the millennials
>>690315542
>nitpicking a small problem when there are much larger problems to be dealt with
generalizing an entire group of people is a great way to ostracize yourself and express ignorance. I understand where you're coming from but there are fucktards in every generation so /thread
>>690315542
you're probably a millennial. If you're born after 1980 you're a millennial.
>>690316048
I was cool until all the BS after the first paragraph.
>>690316027
Give it 20 years an we wont need to.
We'll just dump them all in mass graves because They fucked up the planet so bad in their time that all possibly arable land has been given over to farming.
>>690316048
Ironically I thought you were one of those people you were talking about but you're actually rational. Pessimistic a bit, but still rational lol
Hit them, hit them really hard.
>>690315542
the same thing we do with every generation, laugh at the fact that no matter how crazy they seem, they will eventually be complaining about how the generation that comes after them is completely bonkers.
>>690315684
I was thinking the civil war, after trump gets elected.
>>690316876
Sanger never said that. Try harder trumpfag
>>690316989
This a million times
Trump
As someone who is technically a millennial, I cannot agree more that millennials are the worst group of people. I'm lucky that I'm not an idiot and that I can actually see the world without some "special snowflake, make everybody happy, safespace" lense.
For ideas, I suggest that we deliberately become the people they hate, they'll eventually trigger themselves to death. Also we should do >>690315910. I was spanked as a child and I can tell you it works.
And also >>690315790
More safe spaces.
>>690315542
Girl on the left though ;_;
Where did you get this picture?
>>690315542
Better question how do we fix the world that baby boomers have destroyed with war and selfish behavior
>inb4 BUT MILLENNIALS JUST COMPLAIN AND WHINE
Pulse was a good start
>>690315684
Solves nothing. They will just hide.
I was thinking something along the lines of a JOKERS GAS type of genocide. But find a mutation in the Dan that maybe.....30% posses and letlthat shit do its work. Yes, statistically I may die. But it's for the greater good.
Go back in time and kill half the boomers.
>>690315542
abolish the welfare state, bring back traditional families.
>>690317715
Kys
>>690317469
*tips fedora
>>690317591
this. And how genx did shit when it was their turn, and blah blah blah, everyone complains about everyone else its just old foggies are going out so they hate to see their power slip.
>>690317690
wat
Old fag reporting in. Here's how to fix them:
Break them.
That's all. Let them learn to cope with a world where there are people that hate, and more importantly that can't be educated out of hating, let them suffer and get fucked over a few times. Let them learn to be careful and not have a safety net everywhere. They're flippant because they don't know what struggle is. They can afford to dress up fucking fairies and whine about their feelings because they haven't known war or conflict, they haven't had to learn skills to survive, and they haven't been relied on to do anything, which is its own vicious cycle. They're so busy with their own sexual representation, which they won't care about in ten years anyway, that they completely miss the bigger points of politics and philosophy that are shaping the world around them while they're trying to find new ways to describe their fucking genitals.
I shall clone Hitler, and he will lead us into the fourth reich, this time it will last forsver. Where we will have a beautiful society in which people like this are not allowed to exist.
>>690316048
>boils half a century worth of social changes down to comics, dope, nerds, and trannies
they're unfixable... we're fucked.
>>690317591
How about find a solution and take charge. You can hold people accountable all day long. But will you be the one to find the solution.? You have a choice. Right the wrongs and take possession of the future or continue on the path that you were given.
>>690317469
Found the basement dweller
>>690317275
oh well
>memes will be memes
>>690315790
>chick
>>690317875
There's no fedoras here.
>>690317888
trips of truth
Millenials, Gen Y or whatever you call them - don't actually exist. They're terms created by advertisers to segment markets.
And even most of the advertisers agree now that it's too generalized and a poor representation of this diverse group. It's basically just a buzz word that refers to someone under 30yo.
>>690317888
I'm an oldfag, i was literally this when 4chins came out. I'm a millennial on the older side but was around during the wild west of the internet, and became a big IT person now that works his ass off. stop complaining that your hold on the world is slipping as everyone complains about everyone else.
get 4chan to raid facebook or other normie sites with images and rants that would trigger the special snowflakes.
>>690317888
Well this is better put than my version. Also check'd
>>690317888
Waste of trips, implying that people trying to make life better and more comfortable for others is a bad thing and that they need to have bad things happen to them to prepare them for the harsh world instead of making it a better place take your broken morals back to the 1900s
>>690318237
>this
Seriously fuck all these divisive labels and belief systems. Sometimes people are just people.
>>690318268
If they can be fixed wasn't the question. It's how. That's how. It won't happen though. As it turns out, I'm also a big IT person. My hold is rock fucking solid but it's because I was like, "Oh shit, things are changing, time to learn a skill that produces something" instead of specializing in post-constructivist lesbian slam poetry
>>690316605
This. 85% of people on this website are "millennials' if you use their definition.
>>690318151
Keep telling yourself that bub
>>690315542
Wait for that strange and mysterious process called maturity to kick in, then watch them piss and moan about how awful the next generation is in 20 years.
Nothing we can do for millennials. Just try to prevent the next generation from being as bad.
Do away with participation trophies, for the kids in sports.
Parents, assert your authority. This "get down to eye level and whisper at a screaming child" shit is getting old. Stand up straight, break out the grown-up voice, and shut them up. It works.
Encourage critical and analytical thinking. Far too many people take BuzzFeed, HuffingtonPost, and NowThis at face value, instead of getting curious and finding legit statistics and documents.
As a millennial, I always want to fucking die because of the shame because of the fact that when people hear the term "millennial"
>>690317888
What we need, is parents with discipline, as a child raised by a father who ruled in a fascist method, forcing me to live by discipline. These were literally his words "you live by my rules, there is no debate and no question, if you don't like it, you can leave when you're 18. Until then, I rule here. "
>>690315542
just let them darwin themselves doing 'fail' videos
in a couple months there will be a world news report about how millennials are dying performing 'fail' stunts for their youtube page
let the school shootings roll on by
>>690318651
This person by the jew money grabbing marketing campaign saying that millenials are liberal hippies without jobs go to any college and see all the hardworking young adults fucking kys
>>690318946
this. we needed parents who weren't fucking hypocrites and too scared to hit their kids and we didn't get them.
>>690319003
This person has been corrupted by**
>>690318738
Yes, you know the contents of my own house better than me. I totally have 20+ cringeworthy fedoras hanging on my wall. They hang right next to my MLP r34 drawings and my signed picture of Dawkins.
>>690318946
When people hear the term millennial they think of ops pic.
>>690318651
Exactly. The same people that will specialize in that stupid shit are the same people that expect the system to think and do their work for them. I mean, did they even think about how they are going to survive as a "post-constructivist lesbian slam poet"? lmao
>>690315542
>How do we fix millennials?
There is only one cure.
>>690317888
Do away with what they've turned safe spaces into. A safe space is supposed to be a place where you can voice your concerns and opinions without judgement, not a place where no one is allowed an opinion because it might offend someone.
>>690317469
As a millennial who was spanked as a child, i can honestly say, i got hit so many times i eventually stopped feeling it, really didnt work, also the laws to stop it are to stop the dumb niggers who beat their kids to death...
>>690319093
Saying this with out any evidence that hitting kids is beneficial, weird that most people would say the baby boomers and past generations were the ones who recieved beatings from parents, and they are the ones who have royally fucked this country
>>690317165
>civil war
Men vs. Weeaboos & Jiggaboos.
Yeah, some war that'd be.
>>690318462
Look at this faggot who lives under a rock.
Pampered much pussyboi?
>>690317888
>Let them learn to cope with a world where there are people that hate, and more importantly that can't be educated out of hating
The problem is they refuse to learn that even after the facts slap them upside the head time after time. It's the same poison mentality that's launching the section 8 program reboot.
>15 year experiment in relocating section 8 niggers to the burbs
>they don't raise their standard of living and bring crime and gangs with them
>must be racism
>lets wildly expand the program
Facts and numbers just don't ring with millennials in the same manner, they view hard data and reality as authoritarian and in need of fixing.
It's all Gen X's fault. They raised a bunch of pussy kids who think that they should be showered with praise and gifts for simply participating in life.
At least the amount of school shootings are increasing. Hopefully they'll all kill themselves off.
>>690315542
More mass shootings
>>690319003
Calm your herpes son. They're working. They're just doing shit that doesn't matter because they majored in nasal laughs of the 19th and 20th century while hanging around with friends that require custom pronouns.
>>690316027
See this is what OP was talking about....
>>690315989
Millennials, still living in a fantasy world, suggesting fantasy solutions.
>>690315542
you cant fix gays, well...i suppose you could, but they dont reproduce, so i dont see the point.
>>690319336
i think this guy has a plan though.
>>690319482
nigger, I had a form of fucking autism. I hid under tables, went up on my tiptoes and refused to talk, and didn't until my sister started talking. I constantly had temper tantrums for no reason. my parents would spank me and I would shut the fuck up right then and there. so, from personal experience, it works fucking wonders.
>>690319227
I don't know you are trying to be sarcastic. Everyone knows.
>>690315542
Mandatory draft.
>>690315542
Jesus is this really what the next generation dresses like? Minds made up now I'm not breeding.
>>690319637
It's not just gen X a lot of boomers spoil the fuck out of their kids too. The best generation will always be those old ww2 fuckers.
Fuck em in the poopers. Or stop fukken worrying about a phase?
>>690319637
not 100% but mostly. We realize that we are whiny faggots, yet we don't change.
>>690315542
To fix one generation, you'll need to fix the generation that raised (or failed to raise) them.
Time machine:
Make it illegal to use hormones on food animals.
Cause plastic manufacturers to research hormone free plastic
Force plastic bottles to have a very high deposit, in order to return superior cold as fuck cold drinks in fucking glass bottles.
Restrict access to tattoos to adults and force music vendors / music stations to reveal payola schemes and force airwaves to include demos of artists. Force music to be sold without auto tune.
Clothing sales to minors should be outlawed. Only allow adults to purchase clothing for their children.
The fucking schlub grunge meh dysentery giardia victim outfits - bleahh
Bleach Smoothies for puzzle snowflake special autism victims
Homosexuals encouraged to stay closeted and invisible and safe in their closets.
>>690316456
Anyone who sounds like this is millenial scum. HOW SAD
>>690318799
yeah but thats fucking boring
>>690319503
*white men vs liberals and everyone else
ftfy
>>690319932
real talk.
>>690319889
I decided that when I was 14 and parents were dressing their 8 year olds like Madonna
>>690315818
Discipline is not allowed any more. Hence the reason there's so many faggots.
The bigger worry is what kind of fucked up, gender fluid, autistic retards are the Millennials going to create when they have kids?
>>690319889
Yes, every millennial dresses like this or will eventually dress like this. We need to do something about it.
>>690316048
Cancer baby on the loose. Someone ring him up and Make 4chan great again
>>690315542
I would say beat the fag out of them but you're not even allowed to use the word any more.
>>690320024
Marry me?
Has anybody in this thread considered that the internet might've been a huge reason why so many people/millennials act so fucking stupid and special?
People can use trends and social media to be even more of a special snowflake than ever. Honestly, I think it's not about the generation anymore, it's about which fucking pussy will be using the internet trends for their 15 minutes of fame. Transgenderism and all this fucking "gender changing" bullshit is all just a trend that this world is following because the pep-talky bullshit people spit out their faces will get eaten up every generation because everybody fucking loves trends.
>>690317275
She did actually, i've heard the tape recordings.
>>690317275
hillary is gonna win and theres nothing you can do about it niggerlover
>>690318237
But in saying this, there is underlying ideas for why each Generation is defined. And that comes down to environmental factors taking place for these individuals growing up in different eras.
An average life is 80 years, and consists of four periods of ~20 years
Childhood → Young adult → Midlife → Elderhood
A generation is an aggregate of people born every ~20 years
Baby Boomers → Gen X → Millennials → Post-Millennials ("Homeland Generation")
Each generation experiences "four turnings" every ~80y
High → Awakening → Unraveling → Crisis
A generation is considered "dominant" or "recessive" according to the turning experienced as young adults. But as a youth generation comes of age and defines its collective persona an opposing generational archetype is in its midlife peak of power.
Dominant: independent behavior + attitudes in defining an era
Recessive: dependent role in defining an era
Dominant Generations
• Prophet: Awakening as young adults.
Awakening, defined: Institutions are attacked in the name of personal and spiritual autonomy
• Hero: Crisis as young adults.
Crisis, defined: Institutional life is destroyed and rebuilt in response to a perceived threat to the nation's survival
Recessive Generations
• Nomad: Unraveling as young adults.
Unraveling, defined: Institutions are weak and distrusted, individualism is strong and flourishing
•Artist: High [when they become] young adults.
High, defined: Institutions are strong and individualism is weak
>>690319946
Buddy, you seem like you took one too many vaccines there.
>>690317888
Because your generation fucking up the housing market, environment, and any prospects for employment unless we live in India or China isn't enough to 'break' millennials, right?
>>690316027
RETARD ALERT
>>690320201
Shut up, this shit has been going on since the 90's. It's just easier to see now because of the internet.
>>690316048
do you want your participation ribbon now for participating in this thread?
>>690319521
MFW you dont know me and you most likely grew up way more pampered than me lmao fuck off nigger
>>690319946
I'm sorry, do you know what generation this thread s talking about? also what are you spieling on about with hormones?
>>690316456
Only filthy millennial would /thread their own post.
>>690318268
more?
You don't.
You just fuck their crazy little asses all you can.
>>690319973
hehe y u mad tho bb? ;*
I'm only 22 and I hate us.
The millenials report people. It's the "See Something Say Something" Gen. They ruin like every thread.
>>690319813
HAHA praying this isnt b8 autistic ass also
>implying that your fucked up experiences represent the rest of us
LMAO DEAD
>>690320296
>90s
the internet's been around for a long time, boyo. it's given so many people the ability to be degenerates in all shapes and forms.
>>690315542
Corrective rape
>>690320498
Were all mad man. Fuckin newfags
>>690315542
THIS ACTUALLY EXISTS?!
>>690320669
Not same fag but close.
>>690320687
This would work. PROVEN METHODS
>>690315542
I am going to stop recycling, throw used oil and batteries down the drain and do everything I can to fuck the planet up for millennials
>>690320201
It's called 0 fucking parenting. If you parent your kids they're not sitting on the fucking internet all day. If you discipline them they're developing in the right direction.
1960s it's NOT OKAY to be a bad parent.
Since then it's been a slow deteriation of moral foundation be size they always thought parents were too hard on kids.
Now we have this faggot milenial garbage. No direction, no future. Just straight faggots with nothing better to do than sit online and be the coolest troll.
>>690320698
>been here like 1 whole week
kek stfu you candy ass roody poo
>>690320755
Dude, they don't believe in genders. They think they can be anything they want to be. YES IT'S REAL
I love it when older generations bitch about the newer ones. It's as if they don't even realize the fact that their shitty parenting is directly responsible for whatever 'problems' they think is wrong with the new gen.
>>690320290
See, exactly this is the problem. "WAH WAH WAH, MY GENERATION HAD TO INHERIT YOUR SHIT" No kidding it was shit. And my generation inherited the dirty 30s, WWI, and WWII. Don't tell me about how good I had it when we had two world wars, sundry other wars, and The Great Depression to inherit and you have the gall to think your economy is fucked. I mean, it is, but not more or less than anyone else. Go post your clever little handwashing memes in a safe space.
>>690320277
Baby Boom Generation
Prophet (Idealist) 1943–1960 (17)
High:Superpower America
Generation X
Nomad (Reactive) 1961–1981 (20)
Awakening: Consciousness Revolution
Millennial Generation
Hero (Civic) 1982–2004 (22)
Unraveling:Culture Wars,Postmodernism
Homeland Generation
Artist (Adaptive) 2005–present (age11)
Crisis:Great Recession,War on Terror
>>690315542
Don't bother. It's difficult to admit, but they do serve a purpose. Since the end of WW2, American kids have been rebelling like motherfuckers, and by the time Gen X grew up, we'd collectively rebelled against everything worth rebelling against. There's just nowhere left to go. Millennials may be boring faggots, but they are rebelling against rebellion, and quite honestly, we need this. Their own kids, or maybe their grand-kids (this faggotry may take more than one generation to take it's toll) will have something worth rebelling against someday. They will be able to be cool, because their parents chose not to be. This is a very noble thing that they are doing for the future, even if it is completely unintentional.
>>690320813
This has given me hope. I shall join the anti-future Jihad
>>690320647
fucked up? nah. I respect my parents and what they did. otherwise, i'd be in a retard special place. now as for representing everyone, you're right on that one. I'm just a case where the use of spanking has worked
>>690320834
It's big gov parenting. They don't even let you hit your own kids today....
>>690316048
Throughout history there's been an average though. There's been the acceptable "cool" kids. And everyone strived to be like them, they formed themselves into acceptable human beings because they were driven to.
Now it's NOT OKAY to have popular people. Now everyone is just a muddy pile of shit with no direction.
>>690316709
sure kid, generalizing about a generation.
sound familiar? nah brah your generation is doing just fine at fucking up.
ya better start working. I don't want my social security checks to be late.
I was born in 1994. Everyone in my age group loves to refer to themselves as 90's kids. Honestly it pisses me off a little. Maybe if we start with teaching acceptance we can begin to move forward.
>690315542
>>690317275
prove she didn't faggot.
>>690321335
newfagging this hard
>>690320952
>this is a millennial defending his own arrogance
>>690316989
well the thing is the millennials are falling behind as a group.
retarded would be the appropriate word.
>>690320939
>what is inflation
>what is Reaganomics making shit harder today than it was in the 1960s-early 80s.
Since you and your generation seem to think you have all of the answers, I'd love to hear *any one of you* suggest something to 'fix' the problems that doesn't involve 'muh gawd' or some other bullshit leftover from the Cold War. Yeah, it's easy to say
>shit is fucked up and stuff today
but it's not so easy to realize your generation is directly responsible for it. But, instead of teaching the younger generation how to fix/clean up YOUR mess, you'd rather just sit around on the internet WE taught you how to use and bitch us out.
Not really sure why you rusty old fucks would be complaining anyway, because we're the ones footing the bill for your bullshit. We're the ones tasked with cleaning it, while all you have to do is sit at home, collect Social Security, shit yourselves, and wait to die in a pile of your own mess. Fuck off, and do so without shipping more jobs overseas.
>>690320939
>WAHHH IM AN OLD BITCH WHO COMPLAINS ABOUT MILLENIALS AND HAS TO FIGHT OVER WHO HAD IT HARDER GROWING UP
Please just pull the plug gramps we all know it feels good being the victim but just shut the fuck up
>>690321402
>so new he has no idea what the term 'newfag' means
jesus christ kid.
>>690317469
are you technically a faggot too?
>>690321478
>in one post
>the entire reason every generation hates you
>>690315542
Generations don't exist faggot. Even the census bureau doesn't recognize them. Kids will always be stupid in new ways. Get over it and enjoy the cringe.
I think maybe the newfag millenials are just now starting to understand tech. Back when 4chan was invented by moot only nerds knew how. But the stupid reporting millenials hae invaded because they learned how.
>>690317591
sure kid. blame the previous generation.
>>690321581
we're all on this godforsaken website. we're all faggots one way or another.
>>690320284
When I visited Eastern Europe in 1967 at the age of three I was given every vaccine known to man.
I got there and climbed onto the back of a goat who ran off and I let go and got scratched up on a rock in the mountains of Austria near Reid Imkreis.
Then later during the same trip I picked up a carried off a bunch of filthy puppies from some gypsies in Romania and wanted to buy them because they all enjoyed licking my face.
I've never been sick. I've never broken a bone. I was hit by a cab in NYC while I was riding a friends bicycle with him holding on the back, dragging him on his skateboard and whipping him up a loading ramp into a furniture truck with no padding in it. It was a hit and run. I was run over. The bike died. I was fine. Not even a ducking scratch.
I was 17 and going to a medical college in Granada. Some fucking shit was going down so I went for a swim on the beach cause I can sense shit going down. I go back to my apartment and everyone that was American is GONE. I graduated second after some old dude paki FMG redoing medschool for credits.
I can't bother with drugs because they don't affect me or get me high.
Vaccines work, dumbass.
>>690321605
Well, it's time someone said it. Fuck these old assholes.
>>690317888
You dont have to even try. Time does that for them. The ones that had some smarts to them are gonna realize after some time that their life choices were shit and they should go back to being normal. Any person that doesnt. Well.. They we'rent even worth anyones time
>wanting more money for your work and asking for better work conditions are considered fucked up in the US
> every other fucking 1st world country has better healthcare and working conditions than we do
>being too fucking greedy to realize that most of the money you make will be worthless one day
>>690315542
We need to send them to war. Most of the real men died in WW2, the Korean War, and Vietnam. This left what we have today. So, we must start over.
>>690315684
I second this.
>>690315542
Kill niggers Muslims and feminists.
>>690317839
rational idea. KYS.
found the millennial.
"why do I have to work"
>>690321478
You should pay more attention to politics, and less to tumblr.
>>690321425
I'm 39 faggot.
>>690321795
see>>690320514
Since you're talking politics.
>>690321505
>he has no idea what so newfag about that post
holy moly boy
>>690321478
This is the thing. It's not on us to have all the answers. Daddy isn't here to save you, and not me either. This is your shit to pick up and run with now. It's broken, it's messy, it's hot garbage and it always has been. *IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN*. Know that as a godsworn fact. Whipping out your little epeen and comparing the size of your victimhood isn't getting you little shits anywhere. Stop investing time in ways to identify as trigender-ponyfluids and get on the actual sociopolitical situation. It's a fucking dumpster fire boys. Basic income? Maybe. Gold standard? Probably not but I'll hear it. Bathroom inclusivity? GTFO and let the adults get to work.
Mur
Der
>>690317879
another brain dead millennial.
remember stupid Hillary is a boomer.
power slip. that's good.
YLYL thread right here.
>>690320942
According to Strauss and Howe, there are many potential threats that could feed a growing sense of public urgency as the Fourth Turning progresses, including financial collapse, a protractedwar on terror, a crisis of weapons proliferation, an environmental crisis, anenergy shortage, or new civil wars abroad. The generational cycle cannot explain the role or timing of these individual threats. Nor can it account for the great events of history, like thebombing of Pearl Harbor, President Kennedy’s assassination, or9/11. What the generational cycle can do, however, is explain how society is likely to respond to these events in different eras. It is the response, not the initial event, which defines an era.
>>690321605
I really hope the days you leave your moms basement you dont hate people because they were born in a different time then you if so kill yourself have some perspective and realize that your time is up and let the next generation live their lives maybe without having to answer your bitch ass complaining they can fix the mess you made
>>690319765
Honestly at least if we did that we'd all still have social security
>>690321711
You don't even have a basic grasp of economic theory, let alone a decent point to be made from your incorrect conclusions. Not only that, you're just trying to namecall using big words to sound smarter than you actually are.
>shipping our jobs overseas
The Trans Pacific Partnership happened under Obama's administration (he was elected into office in 2009). So unless you're 8 years old, you had the same chance as anyone else did to speak OUT against the shipment of jobs overseas.
>which was none
Because the TPP wasn't announced to the public before it was passed. We ALL found out about it AFTER the fact. Which you'd know, if you weren't too busy jacking off to Kim Possible in your moms basement.
>>690321780
This guy !!
>>690315542
If you think Millennials are bad, then just wait until you see their children
>>690316048
The comic book nerds, hippies, and computer geeks actually had something to offer that advanced society or made it cooler. Comic book nerds brought some cool ass movies and shit, hippies brought their music, and the computer geeks, well, helped advance technology to what it is today.
MLP faggots, flaming homos, furries, niggers, liberals, and sissy men in general have nothing to offer to society.
>>690321928
No, it hasn't always been like this, otherwise people like Trump wouldn't be screaming
>Make America Great Again!
It's not that we can't clean it up; in fact, we're doing a better job of it than any of the shitstains from your generation could have ever dreamed of doing. Thing is, we're tasked with finding new and more efficient ways of doing it *without* making the problem worse in the long-run. Unlike your generation, we can't afford to not have foresight and pretend what happens later 'just won't matter' or 'someone else will come and clean it up.' And just like not all of YOU were on-board with everything hippies, druggies, and so on were prattling on about in your time, not all of us identify as gender-fluid transracial helicopter-kins. If that bothers you, look not at this generation, rather, the generation that raised them to believe they should be doing shit like that.
Namely, your generation.
>>690318651
sample of said poetry please. for educational purposes.
Here we go again, another fucking dickhead trying to tell me how to habeeb it. This ittybittybaby_watch asshole on here, commenting on my LJ telling me that im making a big mistake by throwing away my college education just to, quote, "Don't believe it" Who the fuck do you think you are saying this shit, i swear to the fuckin heavens above if i knew where you were, i would come over and punch you in the face. I have enough crap coming from my cute dad about the way im living my life, so i dont need to hear it from some fucking itty bitty boat like you. There are two things you do not fuck with when it comes to me, my itty bitty baby and my twinkie house. You screw with either one of those things and you're gonna have one pissed off itty bitty baby on your ass. Just becuase im an itty bitty baby doesnt mean that i dont have a twinkie house, i will go medevil on you if you provoke me. I'm getting fuckin sick and tired of these fuckers thinking that since we're itty bitty babies that they can push us around and habeeb us and not have us fight back. Most, if not all of us itty bitty babies get pissed off if an outsider decides to fuck with us. You may not like the fact that we are itty bitty babies, but you will fucking respect it, that's all we ask anyways. Everyone has their fetishes, and ours just happens to be not believing it. We aint hurtin no one by doing this, but there are some that are making it seem that way, which is complete and udder bullshit. As far as the habeebing it stuff goes, so what, i wanna not believe it, big deal. Keep your fucking comments to yourself if all they're gonna do is gonna piss off whoever your sending it to. Use common since you stupid pricks...oh wait, you dont have any!
>>690322141
Right fucking here.
>>690321977
Blaming the baby boomers for all your problems is just you refusing to take responsibility for your own arrogant bullshit. It's the most teen angsty thing an entire generation can do.
>YEAH BUT FUCK YOU DAD YOU DID THIS TO ME
>>690322239
sad but true
>>690322141
>Thinks I'm only referring to the TPP in regards to jobs being shipped overseas
You're joking, right? Tell me you're not this shortsighted.
>>690322328
>expecting me to read that
kys
fuck them to death
>>690319479
didn't stop your parents.
>>690315542
I would fuck the guy on the left
>>690315542
we kill our self's so they take over the world and then they will destory it within 8 years at the most and then we can all rest easy, because we'll all be fucking dead
>>690315542
does this shit only happen in the midwest? I never see this shit. this seems like a really midwest kind of thing to do
>>690322627
I live in the midwest and I never see anything like that. I always thought it was a west coast thing.
>>690322361
You can blame others and take responsibility at the same time asshat i "say fuck you its your fault you made this mess now im gonna go fix it step aside grandpa"
>>690320227
sure kid
>>690322726
I live in the Midwest and I saw in high school but not in college.
>>690322424
Do you even have a grasp of the context that led to the Great Recession?
>shitposting this hard trying to sound smart
>millennials
>>690315542
You can't fix perfection
>>690322324
As they say, hindsight is 20/20. It's really easy to be critical with the internet at your fingertips, typing out how other people should've made better decisions for you, but that's entirely the problem here. Most of the millennials are old enough to make their own decisions now and this is what they're coming up with. That's the point. It's not a choice that someone else will come and clean it up, by the fucking way. That's how it always has to be as long as death is still a reality. You WILL leave shit that other people will have to clean up. That's how this works. That's inheritance throughout the ages. We're still suffering for decisions made during the industrial revolution. We just hope to fix it up a little better and create as few problems as we can, but this pitch-it-forward thing has been going on a lot longer than your posturing would admit. Every generation has a Trump. He's not made of us. He's made of a timeless mentality.
>>690320290
sure kid. blame everyone else but yourself.
wanna blame a president? start with Clinton.
that might be a little too deep for your pea brain.
>>690322801
Listen to Rambo over here, over-throwing the government and singlehandedly "fixing" the problems that took decades to come to fruition.
>decades means multiple generations
>in case thats slipping by you
>>690320201
This is the most sensical post so far. Fuck the Internet.
>>690320201
/thread.
>>690322361
Just want the baby boomers to recognize their faults and them ignoring it is arrogant so they should just shut the fuck about "millenials are lazy im a knowitall fuck"
>>690320514
sure kid. what a joke you are. they did it all for you snookums. right down to life long debt so you could go to college and learn to be an asshole.
>>690315542
Same way we fix dogs; castrate them.
>>690315684
this
There is no fixing, just exterminate.
>>690320813
I like this idea. hell its what they want.
they want to bitch, let's give the a reason.
>>690315542
Slavery
>>690315542
Give it time
>>690320904
sure kid. you were a part of your growing up too.
>>690322315
>MLP faggots, flaming homos, furries, niggers, liberals, and sissy men in general have nothing to offer to society.
What is 4chan?
>>690315542
They fix themselves once forced to become productive adults.
>>690315542
Dude, get off it. I'm 37 and this picture could have been taken in 1994. There's just the internet now to make it public.
>>690323789
> 1994
>>690321478
try Clinton. that's where it started.
kill the internet, that's how.
>>690315542
Something something,
Promoting violence by avoiding the problem
Making something worse by doing nothing
fuck that gay Anonymous Official Youtube channel
>>690315542
Some American Indian tribes used to send their young warriors deep into the wilderness to survive on their own equipped with nothing but their knife and the clothes on their backs for several weeks.
I say we bring that custom back. Only about in a thousand will survive; but fuck it, we have too many unemployed people anyway.
Killing the jews will stop the massive brainwash they have been feed up since born through media.
Literally every problem on the fucking society can be blamed to kikes
>>690321677
good answer.
Start by fixing yourself, grasshoppa.
>>690315542
Dude, get off it. I'm 37 and this picture could have been taken in 1994. There's just the internet now to make it public.
Jesus. Dude.
You clearly have not been inside a high school in a very very long time.
Teacher here. It's the same shit.
>>690321683
>visited Eastern Europe
>Austria
do you even geography
>>690315542
A little nuke here
A little there
Oh dont forget that spot
>>690318621
Divisive belief systems tell us who's better and why it's us
>>690323742
4chan was the last bastion of haters. Then the fucking jewbots started the brainwash here
>>690316456
>>690316048
>>690316027
Fuck OP we forgot that those types of people come on here too and don't stick to their boards... The bronies and fur fags are probably in this thread right now
How do you bail out the Titanic?
>>690321996
you have to pay in sweetie.
>>690323248
You assuming you know everything about every fucking subject is what gets your ass in trouble. Millennials collectively think that they are in a position to judge ANYONE and they aren't. Most of them don't even have college degrees, and they ALL camped with their parents when the recession hit. If you can't even leave the nest when shit hits the fan, then you're still a kid trying to mock the adults for trying to protect your future in the best way they thought they could. You have no idea what you're talking about, and you shouldn't because you're too young. But you're old enough to know where your place is in the food chain, and it's at the very bottom. Where all the kids are, the ones who can't take care of themselves yet bite the boomer hands that literally feed them because they're too chicken shit to admit that they have no one to blame for their lots in life but themselves.
>>690321227
>And everyone strived to be like them
not everyone. those others, like the comic book readers, the hippies and the computer geeks choosed another way of living. (yeah, there are a few who want to live another way but coudn't manage to change it)
>>690324333
And trips can't lie either.
>>690319946
> culture should be exactly attuned to my preferences, that'll "fix" things
I hate how millennials are now being taught that capitalism is evil. Nearly everything they purchase to show off on facebook or instagram is the direct result of capitalism.
JEWS ARE THE FUCKING PROBLEM.
THEY STILL BRAINWASH MILLENIALS AND THE NEXT GENERATION WILL SUFFER THE SAME SHIT.
JEWS NEEDS TO FUCKING DIE.
>>690323248
its your fault kid. admit it.
>>690324333
Fighting the urge to refute your stupid statement outve respect for your trips
Prevent the internet from being created.
It gives every idiot and fuckwad the ability to have a voice (inb4 hypocrite). People can easily band together and create toxic communities (sjw's, femnazis, etc) and have the ability to control those communities in that outsiders can't come in and say "hey you're being a fucking retard".
Time to get off 4chan, site is monitored, censored, and targeted. Fuck this place and the homo cock suckers that took over in their ear holes that listen to faggots behind the scenes.
I contribute more to society in 3-days than you will in 12 years. Ask me anything.
>>690321969
Turnings
While writingGenerations, Strauss and Howe discovered a pattern in the historical generations they examined which revolved around generational events which they call turnings. InGenerations, and in greater detail inThe Fourth Turning, they identify the four-stage cycle of social or mood eras (i.e. turnings).
>>690315820
well that fixes everything
>>690315542
You don't. The more of these dumb consumerist little shits stay the way they are, the more money business like my own stand to exploit off of them
>>690324274
kek nice try
>>690324744
dubs speak the truth
>>690323752
that won't happen. we have 40 year olds with no career or job experience still living at home while their boomer parent pay their college debt.
they only wanted what they were told would be best for their children.
>>690321996
I live in the third world, so I don't get that anyway. That's the other thing, you fucktards don't appreciate anything and think you're just entitled to it like a God-given right.
Meth
>>690320277
Yeah not sure where these conjectures are originated from but I'd assume they are from your posterior, as I can think of plenty of counter examples of a nomadic artist moderately defined, who seeks to build a new system of decentralized auxiliary institutions with technology autonomy
/inb4 r/iamverysmart
Isolate them. Put them in 1 bedroom flats where they live by themselves and have next to no one coming over to visit. No parents giving money, also no welfare entitlememts. Force the faggots into work. They thrive on attention and validation from other people. Get rid of that shit. Condition them in a way so that they can run their own shit well enough to the point that they detest getting help or handouts from others. I guarantee you one of two things will happen if you place a millenial into a one bedroom apartment;
1) They will mope and cry about how no one is listening to them anymore, how everything is suddenly really fucking expensive, they will go into depression and hopefully an hero or
2) They adapt and realize the truth that nobody cares, nobody gives a single shit about them or anyone else in this world unless they are of some benefit or detriment and the only person who is getting affected by all the whining and complaining is them.
Guarantee you this will work. I should know, I live by myself and I have no cunt helping me out and I don't expect or want that to change.
>>690324088
a teacher that says "dude".
found the problem.
>>690322534
>guy
>>690324652
Your an nigger
Kill you're selve
Joke aside, i have a real question, my dark folk.
I was wondering if, just like asians or normals. blacks also hate blacks?
>>690324460
They're the ultimate hypocrites.
>>690315542
The worst part is that I know some of those people
>>690324953
sure kid. its pasta man. you're about twenty years off on that pic 0/10. poor bait is poor.
>>690324333
Im well aware i dont know everything but i do know that baby boomers or whatever generation wants to say millenials are lazy and just complain are fucking knowitall asshats idk about most millenials but i dont live at home i have a future but what i dont need as a functional member of society is some old fucks telling me im just a whiner and theres no food chain based on age if you have a job and pay taxes your on the same level as anyone else and deserve the same amount of respect get rekt
>>690324333
this. humble yourselves. it's why people can't stand you, your false sense of superiority.
>>690325148
sure kid
>>690324706
High
According to Strauss and Howe, the First Turning is aHigh. This is a post-Crisis era when institutions are strong and individualism is weak. Society is confident about where it wants to go collectively, though those outside the majoritarian center often feel stifled by the conformity.
America's most recent First Turning was the post-World War II
American High, beginning in 1946 and ending with theassassination of President John F. Kennedyon November 22, 1963.
Awakening
The Second Turning is anAwakening. This is an era when institutions are attacked in the name of personal and spiritual autonomy. Just when society is reaching its high tide of public progress, people suddenly tire of social discipline and want to recapture a sense of self-awareness, spirituality and personal authenticity. Young activists look back at the previous High as an era of cultural and spiritual poverty.
>>690315945
The girls is a 10
>>690325092
Without a doubt.
More specifically, the hated ones are the North american version. They are just... terrible anon. Fuck man.. you have no idea what it is like to deal with thwm on a daily basis...
Stop hoarding all the money? Boomers still have well over 80% of all wealth and over 95% of disposable income. You fix people by giving them a real job instead of this fake as fuck "39 hour week" bullshit you pull to avoid giving millenials benefits or investing in them in any way. Baby Boomer dickheads are so selfish and blind they're not even living up to their own rhetoric, the reality of the situation is they're just not investing in anyone or anything for the most part. They are hoarding their wealth and many are trying to avoid even paying taxes on that wealth, half the political sphere is just made up of arguments about how they're going to avoid paying society what it's due. To avoid paying us. Then, when they die, most of their wealth will be stolen and the only ones who will make out are the lawyers they hire to fight over estates. Boomers are notorious for thinking they're never going to die and are the most important, amazing people in history so most of them haven't planned for their own death and when they die their money is just going to fly away in the wind.
We're fucked and it's our parents fault, wash the politics from your head and pay attention to the fact that they're hoarding all the fucking money. They're self-interested cancerous traitors and are the worst generation ever birthed by any country.
>>690325259
You earn respect, kid. It's not given to you. It's not a basic human right you're born with. The older you are, the more you'd paid taxes and taken care of your family, the more people will take respect your opinions. Because you've earned your scars, you didn't cut yourself and tell the world LOOK, MY WORD MATTERS JUST AS MUCH AS THEIRS DOES BECAUSE IM 20 AND ITS A RIGHT NOT A PRIVILEGE.
>tfw you're even arguing with a fucking millennial
>we're so shit i hate my own fucking generation
>>690317936
You sound like one of those weeabo nazi fags... You fail to realise that hitler has killed more white people than anyone else and is responsible for killing the people we considered as men. Nazi germany would have killed you too like they did to your ancestors for being an American... Get fucking real faggot
Millennial here that isn't complete shit. Ask me anything.
>inb4 "get out of here"
I want to prove to you that .5% of millennials are okay.
>>690322315
>MLP faggots, flaming homos, furries, niggers, liberals, and sissy men in general have nothing to offer to society.
Do you participate in real life?
I don't know a single person who is a bronie faggot, "sissy man" or whatever.
In this thread, y'all are talking about MLP fags and people like that, but those are not the people you see on the streets, and even less likely the people who are surrounding you in the real life.
I just encounter these descriptions of those "whiny cockloving sissy faggot millienals" on the catalog site of /b/ but never in my daily life.
I don't think this is coincidence,
>>690325259
They said the same about GenX and Y and whatever labels they used later.
Not too different than complaining about what music the "kids" are listening to now.
>>690325715
>millennial
>not complete shit
choose one
>>690325374
Unraveling
According to Strauss and Howe, the Third Turning is an Unraveling. The mood of this era is in many ways the opposite of a High: Institutions are weak and distrusted, while individualism is strong and flourishing. Highs come after Crises, when society wants to coalesce and build. Unravelings come after Awakenings, when society wants to atomize and enjoy.They declare that America’s most recent Unraveling was theLong BoomandCulture War, beginning in the 1980s and ending in the late 2000s.
Crisis
According to the authors, the Fourth Turning is a Crisis. This is an era in which institutional life is destroyed and rebuilt in response to a perceived threat to the nation’s survival. Civic authority revives, cultural expression redirects towards community purpose, and people begin to locate themselves as members of a larger group. America’s most recent completed Fourth Turning began with thestock market crash of 1929and climaxed with the end ofWorld War II. The G.I. Generation (a Hero archetype, born 1901 to 1924) came of age during this era. Their confidence, optimism, and collective outlook epitomized the mood of the era.
According to the authors, the Millennial Generation (Hero archetype, born 1982 to 2004), show many traits similar to those of the G.I. youth, including rising civic engagement, improving behavior, and collective confidence.
>>690325653
Hitler wasn't even close. WW2 wasn't even close.
LRN2History
>>690325648
People also listen to you bitching about social security costs when you've ACTUALLY been paying into the system for years and years. And to your complaints when you get told that you shouldn't have access to the fund you've been paying into your entire life. Not just seeing your first paycheck and whining about the figures on it.
>>690315542
kill all the baby boomers
>>690319479
How did your parents go about spanking you? I'm always curious to know how other's were spanked. Especially if they thought the experience was detrimental or didn't work.
I was spanked and believe in it, simply as a way to teach consequences for your actions, and since your brain isn't fully developed as a kid, the easiest way to do that is to associate it with physical pain.
>>690326020
great idea kid. you're killing my parents. kill yourself first
>>690316027
>complains about older people generalizing
>makes a generalization about older people
GJ faggot
>>690325648
Thats idiotic sit down old man everyone deserves the same amount of respect unless they show that there not deserving you have it backwards you dont earn respect its given to you the moment you meet someone and taken away when you feel they have lost your respect
>>690326097
tell that to mr. cuck onision. he'd have an aneurysm.
>>690325356
Look everybody! He called someone a kid, this means he is an adult with superior intelligence and maturity! I sure learned a lesson today! Golly whiz I hope I can call someone a kid someday!
>>690319881
drafting paper?
leave doors and windows open?
i don't understand what you mean
who has a date with what man?
are you trying to communicate something
>>690322315
>and sissy men
> nothing to offer to society.
Have you ever had a blow job, or stuck your dick inside an actual, living person? Because if you have, then you know how fucking retarded you sound. More opportunities to cum in/on someone > less, faggit.
>>690316048
In addition to what everyone's already said to you, comic book nerds, hippies and computer geeks were a minority in society. Now the faggots outnumber normal people
>>690326265
you'll hate yourself when you get to that age, kiddo. learn to become an hero before you get there.
>>690325886
Just ignore him, he's some mad liberal faggot that's angry that he can't be like the superior German master race.
>>690326223
>>690324554
Thats off by one for me twice now maybe i dont deserve your respect
>>690324070
Goddamn! That poo in the loo has big fucking ears!
>>690326223
Got it, you have no understanding of how the world works outside of your high school circle of friends. I just met you, and I already don't respect you. Classic example right there. You haven't DONE or SAID anything WORTHY of respecting. That's how respect works. Something your parents probably tried to teach you yet failed because you were too caught up rebelling for the sake of rebelling like a teenager.
>>690315542
install gentoo
>>690326613
where's that fucking meme about respect
Hitting a toddler is stupid.
Swatting a misbehaving 3.5 year old instead of a time-out will prevent his ass from getting run over.
Smacking a 6 year old once slightly hard and fast and exactly when needed if he doesn't understand a hard and fast rule teaches him the rule means something.
Beat your kids when they're old enough to instill a sense of Don't Ever Fucking Do That Again in them. Shoplifting/stealing/doing drugs/lying about where they went/sneaking into a movie/being caught leaving school/playing video games instead of finishing his homework and failing.
I got smacked and beat. I learned, I DID explain I felt confirmation class was pointless and that's why despite being dropped off at it, and walking home 9 miles in the rain was why I wasn't there to be picked up and I took me hours and hours to get home. I wasn't hit or beaten after that. I had been taught everything I needed to learn from them at that point and was in charge of my own education. I knew right from wrong and to stand up for my self. I thought I'd maybe be hit or beaten- no, I could tell from the look that I was probably never gonna be hit again.
>>690316048
Enjoying or studying a certain medium is not the same as obsessing over it.
>>690326223
Perhaps the most poorly constructed thought I have ever read.
>>690326613
>>690326715
>>690326613
>on the internet didnt meet me
>not in highschool
>have plenty of life experience to know that you respect others out of common courtesy
>think you mis understand what i mean by respect
>>690325601
In my entire life i have only see one black folk.
He sells fake clocks, belts and stuff like that on the street. He's a cool guy tho.
My country only has like 15.000 coal people.
I was wondering, would you rather hang out with white cringy shit or "SMASH DAT MF LIKE BUTTON yeeh " black guys
>>690324531
YEAH! the other 'abrahamic' religions are great though, god bless jesus
>>690324652
who's cock do you tease for your wage?
>>690327084
black people. they actually have fun
>>690320514
>sure
>no that started long before baby boomers in the 20s
>again started in the 20s
>20s... you sure you have the right generation?
>sure
>no its... dun dun DUN the 20s!
CHRISTIAN FUNDAMENTALISM!? not even gonna dignify that
>wot
>because baby boomers only live in america
>nobody cooks anymore, NOBODY!
>no that was the baby boomers parents, when were they born? oh THE 20s!
all in all i'd rate this 8/10, gave me aids
>>690326613
And that's fine. Be a teenager, but realize that you ARE still a teenager. You're still a child to these people, you're still THEIR child. Their baby. Because you aren't grown ups yet just because you can buy a bottle of beer. You grow into an adult. No one respects the word of a kid because hes too arrogant to fully understand how naive he is in the ways of the world. There is still a ton of lessons for us to learn before we start trying to throw our dicks on the table about any subject whatsoever. Respect your elders isn't even a new concept either. If you actually listen to your parents warnings about shit, you end up avoiding the mistakes they were warning you about. They actually know what they're talking about because they did the same thing you're doing, rebelled, and had to go through life the hard way because of it.
>>690315542
Ignore every single thing they do.
>>690326097
>I was spanked and believe in it, simply as a way to teach consequences for your actions
Then teach the real consequences, not just dumb physical pain as the consequence for everything.
If your child doesn't want to help making dinner somehow, don't let it participate at dinner this evening.
If your child refuses to learn or dosomething for school, allow it to spend less money, as it is earrning less in the future.
>>690326715
>>690326613
>>690326097
Spankings work. They work on children as well.
Millennial here hating on my generation. I am fucking tired of their complaining. Back in High School I worked at a fast food restaurant. I was talking to a couple of coworkers about what university I was going to attend, when two some of them said that college doesn't matter anymore. One got arrested for beating his ex wife and smoking meth, the other got arrested stealing. Neither knows how to do their taxes. They both got fired. Now that I'm in college, I'm at a different job, a grocery store, and it isn't much better. One of my coworkers claimed that Steve Wozniak said that college doesn't matter. I have yet to find any quote that is even remotely close to him saying that. This coworker has been smoking weed since he was 8, works at both the grocery store and taco bell and has to live with his mom in order for both of them to afford rent. Another one of my coworkers went to college and chose to get an English major. Her parents didn't want to pay for her degree, seeing how they didn't think she'd get a decent job. She's about 24, still lives with her parents, and still works at a grocery store. She complains that her parents were unfair. And finally, the last coworker, I'm going to talk is the "alternative" one. All he talks about is how he hates his job, how he has to cover up his tattoos, and how his bosses yell at him. He never puts in any effort into his work and has constantly said that he doesn't care about the other coworkers who have to pick up his work. Ironically, he calls himself a socialist. He'll bitch about anything that requires him to use a single second of "hard" work. Fuck millennials.
>>690326224
Just watched his video on it. What a fucking moron. "I was abused as a child so that must mean every instance of spanking is abuse"
Also the studies that show mental health issues associated with spanking, that does not prove spanking causes these issues. Nor does it really make any distinction in HOW the spanking is done.
Jesus, I've seen a retort to a video of his before, but he really is an idiot.
>>690324941
What I'm referring to as Artist and Nomad is simply a label for archetypes of a particular generational psyche, according to Strauss Howe Generational Theory.
>>690325806
Artist
Artistgenerations are bornafter an Unraveling,during a Crisis, a time when great dangers cut down social and political complexity in favor of public consensus, aggressive institutions, and an ethic of personal sacrifice. Artists grow up overprotected by adults preoccupied with the Crisis, come of age as the socialized and conformist young adults of a post-Crisis world, break out as process-oriented midlife leaders during an Awakening, and age into thoughtful post-Awakening elders.
>>690327001
>Can't spell worth shit.
>Thinks others will read his thoughts and care.
The fuck?
>>690317469
so what happened when you all were little. did your friends never get hurt or do anything remotely dangerous? we jumped ramps without helmets... hell, no one made helmets yet. we ate peanut butter, got paddled at school, got beat at games, won and lost trophies, etc.
>>690326905
>>690326613
More examples of knowitall grandpas
>respect your elders because i think we live in the 1800s
>>690315542
Expose them to the harsh realities of war and a strict command structure. Make them dig trenches in the rain at night for asking if they can charge their iPad on barracks. force them to repeat army basic until they pass it them make them all attempt special forces induction and march for two days with no food and gunshots in the distance.
Softness breeds softness, a generation thats seen unprecedented excess, poor influence and virtually zero hardship in an environment of instant gratification and 'safe spaces' is going to be a group of pussies by default.