>me
>right-wing
>conservative
what are you /b/?
>>689953384
>anarchism
>left wing
haha... what?
>>689953384
human
>>689953384
I'm a left wing conservative. I'm politically left, socially right. For instance, guns should be highly regulated, but I'll still keep mine to go hunting. Welfare services should be eliminated, except for the truly disabled. Etc, etc.
>>689953636
Or maybe you got that backwards
>>689953384
I'm with the "whogivesafuckop" party
Funded by "Opisafaggotcorp"
>>689953636
>guns should be highly regulated, but I'll still keep mine to go hunting
Hahahaha
>>689953577
Of course it is
>>689953587
"The everyone is equal party"
"Funded by no one"
>>689953636
well rounded political view, interesting to say the least
how does that work for you in debates, can you decide for a candidate right from the start (left/right) or does it take a lot of debates to find your stance?
>>689953384
I am an independent dubs. Get on my level.
>>689953875
>government controlled economy
>no government
I don't see how those two things really line up
>>689953384
id say anarachist, but more from a utopian viewpoint, i know it will never ever work the way it is intended to be
>>689954046
"Usually considered to be an extreme left-wing ideology, anarchism has always included a significant strain of radical individualism, from the hyperrationalism of Godwin, to the egoism of Stirner, to the libertarians and anarcho-capitalists of today"
>Left wing marked as red
>Right wing marked as blue
>Anarchism=Slaverty???
>Conservatism does not lead to fascism. Only American conservativism does.
What the fuck is this?
>>689953384
right wing libertarian, the only real socialist system I believe in is government healthcare because I don't think an uncontrollable illness should destroy some economically
>>689953384
Depends on the day; however, I lean more toward the conservatism on this scale.
>>689954209
it can be considered whatever, left wing means government controlled economy, anarchism means no government
>>689954504
only in light of the american political spectrum, anarchism in it self is much older than that
>>689954504
No one thinks anarchism is anything but left wing you must be retarded
>>689953384
Socially liberal, politically and economically conservative.
The only thing I don't like about being able to be described as a libertarian is other libertarians... but I guess that's the point.
>>689954621
Is the idea that 'the people' kind of are the government and they own everything? I guess I can see that
>>689954756
thank you for your informative and witty input, knuckledragger
Anarchism gets switched with Fascism
Nazism moves inbetwen socialist and communist
Monarch left one of Conservatism.
NAZI stands for National Socialists. Conservatism is for less and less government.
>>689954845
its about not needing a government, its about personal freedom and thats why it doesnt work, human interests are to widely spread to be able to peacefully coexist without written and controlled guidlines (laws)
>>689953384
> no moderate option
Oh, I forgot, it's 2016. The year of the fringecuck.
>>689953384
anarchism and monarchism do not belong on that scale
and the order of the remaining is wrong
all other ideologies on the scale deal with what aspects of life the government should be involved in
while anarchism and monarchism deal with how much the government should be involved
it is possible to have socialist monarchies (Sweden) and anarchic fascists (although anarchic anything are very rare because anarchy usually entails government having no power making it impossible for government to be involved in anything)
a better scale would be
>communist-fascist-socialist-progressiveist (commonly called liberal today)-conservatist-classical liberal
>>689955177
kek... dubs never lie
>>689955124
if there truly is no governing body, how can it possibly be left wing?
>>689953384
That's a really shitty spectrum.
I'm riding the line between right-libertarianism and the Tea Party. I call myself a Minarchist or just a Capitalist.
>>689954756
I'm a right wing anarchist tho...
>>689955321
this guy makes sense
One of the truest monarchies still around is North Korea (power being passed down by generation) you going to tell me they're right wing?
>>689955321
is this better?
>>689955568
I had an Ancap phase, then I realized that it's a pipe dream. Now I'm a minarchist. You'll grow out of anarchism eventually.
fascist symbol bundle of sticks and a hatchet..
a bundle of sticks is also known as a faggot...
so a faggot with an axe... running hatchet man?
Insane clown posse logo is running hatchet man... killer clowns??
John wayne gacy was a killer clown...
and john wayne gacy killed men and went to parties
Adolf Hitler had a party and killed men...
I figured it out... Adolf Hitler is a fascist!!!
Monarchy is the best political system for countries that want to be governed in an effective way.
>>689955699
Not really. The only valid spectrum would be 3-dimensional or more. 2D is better, but still shit. A line is impossible to represent politics on accurately.
Faggot use something like this instead
>>689954756
Not the other guy, but left-wing ideology LITERALLY means bigger government. Right-wing means less government. I'd say that Anarchism could fall under either, it by no means is exclusive, or even more logical, to left-wing.
>>689953384
I'm for human rights and constitutional order as a first basis for everything, where does that leave me?
>>689955432
its considerd left wing, but in the end the whole left and right thing is just dumb to think that way, you can have conservative ideas but be considerd left and the other way around, political views are much more complex than to be reduced that way, but in the end its politician that coin these left <-> right positions
(if only to easier identify with a certain grp of voters that share a common idea)
>>689953384
right-wing capitalist moderet
>>689955781
I'm an individualist (egoist) anarchist.
Care to explain why anarchism is a pipe dream and I should be a minarchist? (I was a minarchist for 6 years.)
>>689955851
i agree with you.
God save the Queen!
>>689956082
i think that makes you moderate, the rest comes down to your responces of current or recent events
>>689956000
>activism
is there another definition for activism I don't know about? Aren't there activists from all political standpoints?
>>689955699
slightly better
but it is still mixing "how much power a government should have" with "what a government should have power over"
and nazism is about as far left as maoism
>>689953577
I am a hard core conservative.
>>689953384
Socialism and communism, and the meme of socialism is more akin to religion - like Christianity or Islam, because it takes faith to believe in it, and to question it is to court controversy and perhaps violence.
1. Socialism is asserted dogmatically
2. It's popular, and has many followers.
3. Regardless of whether or not its true, socialist assert its usefulness to society.
To question the plausibility of socialism's efficacy is similar to questioning the meme of white racism, white privilege and black victimization - it will lead to the same kind of anger as questioning the divine origin of ancient texts for muslims and christians. It needs faith to believe in it.
>>689956342
"Gott erhalte Franz, den Kaiser"
Well at least someone here.
>>689953384
Whoever made that image has a very basic and naive understanding of politics.
Libertarian conservative in the idea of conserving resources not giving them away ie liberal taxes. Not morality.
>>689956776
Yes, because the fascist symbol should be on the socialist side. The Chinese government is fascist, and socialist. Socialism gives complete government control of land, resources, people, and their thoughts.
>>689953384
I am a conservative besides the religious mumbo jumbo. if you want ben shapiro interviews on youtube he is literally everything i agree with.
>>689953577
Government gives and gives till it's gone.
>>689953384
Nazism isn't a thing. It falls under fascism. Dumb shit, Nazism is just an adjective to describe the third reich's reign of fascism.
>>689956276
Last comment didn't post I guess.
Because capitalism lends itself very nicely to turning into feudalism without something to prevent it. Just because there's no legal government doesn't mean that the richest guy can't enforce his will on everybody else, which is a de facto government. No government = power vacuum. I'm not an idealist that thinks that people will just like the way it is and not seek to take advantage of the lack of a system. So in order to combat people's tendency to be idiots we need a barebones government with few powers that does nothing besides make sure nobody else becomes a government.
Dude, even Ayn Rand, the original egoist, wrote that anarchism is an idealistic pipe dream.
>>689953384
First of all Nazis and fascist crap belong on the left side of spectrum.
Second a true conservative would now that.
Thirdly dollar trump is an asshat and Clinton is a power junkie lair.
Uh... Libertarian . so middle?
>>689957021
the governemnt should collect taxes to use the money to take care of problems for the population, the issues should be decided by majority vote
(utopian idea, yeah, i know)
>>689957002
>ben shapiro
>literally everything i agree with
>>689957108
>Nazism isn't a thing
>>689953384
Either facist or anarchist, depending on wether I have to account for the retards in our society in my political wet dreams.
>>689957108
there really needs to be a third leg on this, because the Dutch government is a monarchy, but yet it has many different facets to it that are not a step beyond conservatism.
>>689953384
idk if it's been said yet, but that chart is utter bs and wrong on so many levels
>>689957156
no contest there mate
>>689953384
How is anarchy slavery? You're a dumb cunt OP...
>>689953636
>left wing conservative. I'm politically left, socially right
>guns should be highly regulated, but I still keep mine
Make up your fucking mind
>>689957281
completely different scale
>what are you /b/?
pic related
also, this:
>>689955851
>>689956342
>>689957413
A slave to your own communities atomization and the need to provide for yourself with no ability for upward mobilization I'm assuming
>>689955699
the socialism and capitalism part is wrong, but apart from that pretty spot on
>>689953384
>You cant put the ideologies on a line because there is overlapping fundimental beliefs.
Better watch out with those republican nominees they might level up and throw america into a futuristic middle ages with kings n shit
>>689957445
Why should he give a shit what political affiliation you think he should be or fall under? go fuck yourself.
>>689957334
Nazism is interchangeable with fascism. Fascism is the firm of government, Nazism was HITLER'S form of fascism. KYS millenial newfag
>>689957149
>AYN RAND
>>>>THE ORIGINAL EGOIST
Kek. Pic related.
That aside I have two questions...
1.) How does capitalism lead itself to feudalism? How is one rich guy going to enforce his will on everyone? Care to explain how?
2.) Are you actually suggesting that we need a government because if we have anarchism we'll end up with a government? Isn't that like cutting off your finger to prevent yourself from losing that finger?
>>689957445
So you're basically a retarded monarchist who's about to be overthrown. Combining strict totalitarianism with zero social welfare always ends in revolution.
>>689955851
>governed in an effective way
you havent had history lessons, take for example the monarchy in france a corrupt punch of asshats and inbreds that were so far away from effectiv governing as the sun is from the earth
>>689954840
>Socially liberal, politically and economically conservative.
Hello, Cuckservative. Your kind isn't welcome here
>>689953384
Left leaning centrist.
But I'm Canadian so it comes with the territory
>>689957413
think about it, giveing people that much freedom and no government would just leave people doing more crime and there would bring back slavery to the west because no government, so that means people can make their own rules and laws right?
>>689957686
1. You have money. You hire goons to protect your shit. You then decide you want other people's shit/want people to act a certain way. So you pay your goons to do it for you. Congrats, now you're a king.
2. See point 1. The answer is yes, and your analogy is a non sequitur.
>>689957149
>cavemen had governments
Fuck you are retarded
>>689957409
I'm literally walking around in shock that this election cycle has come to this. I stopped following politics as soon as trump became the nomine. I was all in for cruz, even helped out the campaign by door knocking and pamphlets. He won here btw.
>>689957863
In fact, I have had history lessons, from which I know that there are also many examples of wise thoughtfull and, indeed efeective, monarchs.
>>689958156
>willingly shilling for Ted Cruz
it's possible for someone to hate themselves that much?
>>689958124
Yeah, they did. It was government by strength, but they did. And then once society advanced a bit those leaders became patriarchs and then chiefs and then chieftains and then kings. Bang, the basis of civilization. Have some history.
>>689958025
How do you have money when no uses it anymore and why can't I just shoot your goons?
>>689958025
Violence is more expensive than co-operation generally, if you hire goons to enforce your will, you have to start paying them hazard pay, they will be risking their life. Aggressive defense agencies will quickly succumb to the market.
Have you ever read Machinery of Freedom?
http://daviddfriedman.com/The_Machinery_of_Freedom_.pdf free PDF.
PS: my analogy wasn't a non sequitur. Pic related.
>>689958156
i am not sure about the hillary liar part, but power hungry is pretty much her mo, but then again i am from europe, so dont get the stuff about her anyway
i am more liberal, but the stuff that is going on in your country, my bad man ...
>>689953384
This "spectrum" gave me cancer
>>689957021
wow, you have literally no clue about politics do you
>>689958440
At this point you have to be trolling. Money is just wealth, I sincerely apologize for saying "money" and not "grain" or "pork" or whatever the hell people will be trading with.
And you can, but you have to think like a real person instead of assuming that you're Rambo. You're not going to shoot six dudes armed better than you to protect the yearly pig that your lord demands from you. How do you think protection money works in the mob?
>>689957674
>Nazism was HITLER'S form of fascism
that means nazism is fascist! you fucking retard!
>>689957674
Nazism involved elements of facism mate, however the doesn't make it synonymous with facism. It had to exist as a system of it's own because it is so fucked, same as Pol Pots forced agrarian revolution, people still don't know what to call that.
Just like stalinism, while it involves elements of communism, it certainly isn't communism in a form most people or communists would recognised or affiliate with.
>>689958351
For example, Frederick the Great.
>>689954504
left wing has never meant controlled by the government, what are you talking about?
Jesus christ this board is retarded.
>>689958566
I'm aware that that system exists. But I would rather have one warlord who is controlled by popular vote than many warlords who answer to no one. There's a reason democracy has replaced feudalism.
>>689958438
There are so many different forms of anarchism, for example, Anarcho Communism which use direct democracy to formulate decisions not necessarily laws but my point is Anarchism being th complete absence of government is a child's perspective. It's just stupid and no one who has any understanding of legitimate Anarchism would think that.
>inb4 read the dictionary definition
>>689955804
XDDD
>>689953384
>Right-wing
>Nazi
>>689957763
>I'm just going to throw around political buzzwords so it seems as if I know what I'm talking about
>>689954290
red is the color of the left
Far right nationalist.
>>689958745
you gunna back that up with what it does mean then?
>fascism
>nazism
>right wing
nice meme
>>689954340
You must hate roads. And sewers. And....so many other things???
>>689958688
That would and still happens in current systems of government so you have no point. People steal and kill?! Wow really?! That doesn't mean that it is not in my opinion a better form of organization or lack thereof
>>689956000
this is literally the stupidest thing ive ever seen, why someone so ignorant of politics would think it wise to make something like that is baffling
>>689958351
i have to get rid of this, you sure those werent fairy tails?
but to be serious, with a leader that can barely be talked to and not at all be argued against, how can a population that is illiterat form an opinion or pass on an acurate depiction of the times
statistically the is a propabillity of caring, smart and well mannered monarchs, but when leaders are determend by birthright inbreeding is rampant to conserve the bloodline, as well as killing of rivals (bloodrelated or not)
that was the case with the pharaohs of egypt as well as in greece and i bet it was the same for the dynasties in japan or china
>>689958962
Nice dubs!
>>689959306
Check them, you got the dubs, as we say here.
>>689959522
You just got double dubs, is that rare?
>>689959217
He wanted a pure social system for German citizens and railed against capitalism. He however was willing to use all the extreme "right" weapons to ensure this for "his" people. in some ways he was building a Feudal system to support it.
>>689959598
Triple doubles! Nice one mate.
>>689959173
it's complex and nebulous made up of many varying ideas. if you think it could be summed up in a few sentences you're a fucking idiot. actually act like an adult and try to research something for yourself rather than relying on other people to hand it to you
>>689959337
what dubs?
>>689953384
That's an idiotic scale.
It should go from anarchy to totalitarianism.
Or from nationalism to globalism.
These graphs are all simplifications, the terms right-left come from just prior to the French Revolution, the Estates-General of the Ancien Regime (this was a congress of sorts under which nobility, clergy and the people represented their interests to the king) was taken over by the people and voted itself into a National Asembly, as you can probably guess they sat by blocs with conservatives on one side and liberals in the other. That's it, there's no theory behind it or anything else, people have since been identifying their general leanings by these simple monickers which given the role and complexity of contemporary government feel more like straitjackets than accurate descriptions of political leanings and ideology. Taking the US as an example there has been something of a shift in between current political parties and their historic roles, with Lincoln's anti-slavery Republican party once having been the more liberal and blue dog democrats at a different point representing the more conservative ideological leanings... It's not like the left and the right have been battling for supremacy since the dawn of time and it certainly isn't a battle of good vs evil or moderation vs extremes. It's only dumb fuck college students and political amateurs who feel any need to "define" themselves in terms of consistent ideological purity. you can be a staunch conservative and, consistent with your Christian and free market values, favor immigration reform that offers a path to citizenship, and likewise you can be unapologetically progressive and still consistently stand for government playing a limited role. Labels do have their uses, they quickly convey basic convictions in a discussion for instance, but are otherwise useless. I'd rather be for common sense and sui generis solutions for complex problems rather than stand on some ideological island and suffer having to stand for positions or ideals that make no sense in the name of "integrity of thought" as an ideal.
>>689959911
oh these dubs
>>689959977
and these dub apparently
>>689959306
I agree that inbreeding was a problem among royal families, ancient Egypt especially. But I don't think it was that bad that retarded monarchs would be created all the time, especially in Europe.
>>689959222
you got me there. I don't think many people consider having an infrastructure to be a socialist ideal, I'm not an anarchist I just think that people and business should be regulated to a minimum
>>689958745
On the graphic it is placed on the far left, placed as an even more extreme version of communism and underneath it, it says "slavery". I don't see how anarchism is like slavery in any way, it belongs in the center because Anarchism can be both capitalist or comminist
>>689959911
Double dubs!
>>689959935
good comment, thank you for a moderat response
National Socialism is actually left wing though, as the name hints. If you listened to what they actually said you would realize this.
>>689953384
None. I'm libertarian
>>689960285
anarchism cannot be capitalist
>>689960578
read milton friedman
>>689960285
Discussing anarchism tends to awlays devolve into a discussion of semantics, can those anarchists in here provide a viable model, either IRL or fictionla, so we know what we are talking about exactly?
>>689960682
Milton Friedman is fuck head.
>>689960049
how is a retarded monarch not a problem for a country, an integral person to decide the moving of armies and decing on taxes and theyre uses, without the capabilities just to be able to keep the throne from rivaling factions in the own familys is completely irresponsible
>>689960682
I have, its not anarchism
>Nazism
>More right wing than monarchy
Okay then
>>689960729
It's hard to place anarchism on a left to right scale because most anarchists can't even agree. There are so many different forms of anarchism but many use points from both the left and right wings.
>>689960839
replace government with free agency of individuals. How is that not anarchism?
>>689960996
anarchism doesn't be no government, it means no heirachy. And restricted inviduals access to resources restricts the free agency of individuals.
>>689960807
I phrased that wrong. I meant tha retarded monarchs were not common, sorry.
Who ancap here?
>>689954290
In anarchy there's nothing to stop slavery, is there?
>>689960994
the only thing anarchists agree on is ancaps aren't anarchists
>>689957413
Nothing to stop slavery...
>>689961228
well thats different then
>>689953384
Well OP I live in a socialist monarchy so you tell me
>>689953384
>what are you /b/?
fuck you all, that's what
>>689961364
>>689961284
are you fucking stupid? what do you think anarchy is? everyone cuts off all there limbs and hides in a bush?
>>689961284
but there's no one to start it
>>689961534
How a nigga gunna hide if a nigga got no limbs? You silly man
>>689961660
>what is private slavery
>>689961381
I will be going now, nice talk though.
>>689961186
>no hierarchy
oh so you mean its impossible then
>>689961744
anarchism isnt the removal of all power, it's a removal of the powers forced upon them
>>689960994
Yes, I'll agree, but that means we do not know if we are discussing some fuzzy vision of hippy utopian anarchism or early twentieth century collectivists... For all I know some people here could be arguing for "whatever the government is on Mad Max." If you abolish property then effectively you've got communism, if you don't regulate the economy (which is in fact contrary to Capitalism) then you've got rule by corporations. Anarchism in just a general sense only describes "fuck the government" in punk rock...
>>689961757
dito, bye
>>689961767
well if its not the system we currently have then it must be impossible because human personality is not the result of enviroment
>>689955699
>>689953384
stupid and misleading pictures.
Nazism is actually called National Socialism.
Therefor ever Nazin is a Left-Extremist.
When will people realize they were all just fucking brainwashed by jews their whole life long.
kek
fags
>>689953384
>putting "liberalism" on a spectrum
>being this retarded
>>689953384
Somewhere between socialism and communism.
>you realise that there is shitload of different movements branded as "communism"?
>>689961975
lol, its stupid enough to be parody but im worried it isnt
>>689961975
We've been through this before... Most nations in the world do acknowledge health care as a right... Americans, and not surprisingly most Muslims apparently, are amongst those oposed...
>>689962019
yeah, when won't people realize the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea isn't a democracy, i mean its right in the name
>>689962208
Why do I need to pay for lazy people's healthcare?
>>689953384
Do you even understand what the left right axis means?
>>689962382
ouch, you are so ignorant i wouldnt even know where to start
>>689962382
Because it's the only way you are guaranteed health care if your wife cucks you and leaves with fucking everything you own...
>>689953384
Stalinist
>>689962019
Except Hitler got along more with center-right parties than left-wing parties.
He banned the Communist Party the day after he won the elections in 1933. He abhorred it so much he called it Judeo-Bolshevism.
>>689953384
Dont know but not a fucking jew
>>689962928
>in before hitler did nothing wrong
>>689957359
we should start a club
>>689963127
>capitalism/socialism
Monarchism, cuz' it sounds cool.
Anarcho-capitalism or minarchism are the only valid political systems.
>>689956652
AEIOU
>>689957863
Then again, they were french
>>689963468
Jew =capitalism
>>689963565
America=jew
>>689963568
Freedom = white
>>689963712
Interesting
>>689963127
Yes, it is coercion, welcome to constitutionalism 101 and Hegel's monopoly of violence by the state, if you don't like it you can kindly fuck off the Western world... The state has the power to collect taxes to guarantee all its citizes the enjoyment of basic rights and freedoms. Not dying because you're poor and got dealt a bad hand is one of those, it is demeaning to human dignity to leave a person to die next to an emergency room because he/she cannot afford medical attention.
>>689963843
Freedom=jew shit
Im a liberal
Sorry b
Though not a libtard fuck the SJWs Fuck anyone who stops free speech Fuck people who exploit a tragedy to push a political agenda (this goes for both sides)
>>689963468
No.
You are beyond naive if you think anarchism would work.
Sorry, bub. Anarchism is chaos.
>>689963913
Jew detected
Nazism
>>689963956
>The state has the power to collect taxes to guarantee all its citizes the enjoyment of basic rights and freedoms.
Doesn't make it morally right.
>it is demeaning to human dignity to leave a person to die next to an emergency room because he/she cannot afford medical attention.
So what? They are a failure in life because of personal failings, they deserve to die. Not my problem. If they can sucker some idiot into paying for their care (i.e. charity), fine by me. That's voluntary.
>>689964042
I love the freedom to live my life unimpeded by the government. I only want that. True freedom.
>>689953384
I'd have to say National Socialism.
>>689964092
I hate jew but i love sucking cock what can i do
>>689964051
I'm atheist and not american
>>689964332
Okay, then go live in the Congo, and disconnect yourself from everything the government provides.
Get back to us if you survive.
Protip: You won't
>>689953384
>democratic fascist
>ask me about it
>>689964042
In small communities it works fine. On a country scale, shit would probably hit the fan because people are idiots
>>689964394
Me too but i don't have jew blood
Revolutionary Christian
>>689953384
lol conservatism and liberalism are freedom? hahaha liberalism is not even left wing
>>689953384
Taking the political spectrum as a single dimension is just wrong
>>689964594
I have absolutely no idea if any of my ancestors were jewish, nor do I care.
Though I guess not, otherwise they would have been killed after the Anschluss
>>689964586
In some small communities, sure.
Meanwhile, other small communities are eyeballing your shit and your woman and are going to take it by force because there's nothing to stop them from doing it but you.
It's more like a circle rather than a straight line, or the libertarian cube. Larouche swung all the way from left wing nut to right wing nut for example. Plus anarchism is way too disorganized to institute slavery. Or institute anything for that matter!
>>689964546
I think you don't understand, I'm not an anarcho-communist, I want a free market to decide instead of a government.
>>689964677
any sort of political spectrum is wrong
poritics is more than just a position on a graph
>>689964677
Not it is the only way 2D=lie
>>689964742
Pure anarchism = Might is right
Due to the capitalistic nature of the world for the past 200 or 300 years money will = right.
Someone who has the resources to get people under their wing and arm them will more than likely make slaves
Jesus fuck, do you people live in the real world or fantasy land?
>>689957156
Hitler wasnt that left winged when it came to economics. He loved to buy things from american capitalists for example the machines that they used to keep track of Concentration camp prisoners was made by IBM.
I am a full blown communist who wishes to put all of my children into sweatshops so we can have a better chance of getting into the breadlines
>>689953384
Its really more of a circle than a line isn't it?
>>689964855
>poritics
>>689964741
The entire community works together, what are you talking about
>>689964785
The free market is bullshit and filled with uninformed consumers. Companies rely on these uninformed consumers to stay in business. It's too late for whatever "free market" utopia you have going on in your head.
Nazizm was completely a left-wing thing you dumbass. Check your shit before you post it anywhere.
>>689965140
So 300,000,000 people are going to work together?
In your stupid little vision, there are many small communities spread out throughout the US.
And they will go to war with one another, and they will enslave and rape and murder one another unimpeded.
We've kind of already gone through this whole anarchism shit.
>>689964741
I don't get why we don't just fucking evacuate some shithole like madagascar and declare it an anarchy land for all these moron anarchists to go, and for international prisoners to be banished to.
>>689958962
Yes socially he was lretty right wing.
>>689953384
>anarchism
>slavery
pick one
>>689965293
The only "left wing" part of Nazism was the economic setup where the state controlled industry and funds.
Otherwise, every policy Hitler and the Nazi's implemented were heavily right wing.
>>689965149
The free market was granted by god. I consider it a holy endeavor to practice free market policy and freedom unimpeded by States. I believe in the freedom to live a life free from interference from others and of his own volition.
>>689965317
What the fuck are you talking about. 300mill is a small community? You were talking about small communities trying to get their land and women, not the fucking united states of america.
How the fuck do you know there would be slavery? The only existing anarchist communities have nothing of the sort. There is still ethics you religious, american nutcase.
>>689965508
Granted by god, huh?
Low quality bait, but I'll bite.
If your free market was granted by god, so was every other system of economics.
If you want that freedom, go somewhere with anarchy or very little government. You will not enjoy yourself.
You enjoy many freedoms and amenities because of the structure of government, regardless of how you rail against the idea.
>>689953384
>22.
>Socialist.
>Fuck the monetary system.
FIXED
>>689965738
I live in a bunker. I hunt for my food. I run my own electronic devices and am posting on my brother's phone.
>>689965848
>>689965789
>this is what americans actually believe
>>689965700
Religious? LOL Where the fuck did that come from?
I'm a fucking agnostic, religion has nothing to do with this view I hold.
I wasn't the one talking about small communities.
And do you know, that every "small community" that practices this anarcho-communism in the US or wherever else in the first world can do so because they are enabled by the safety and structure of the governments they're resisting?
You are a fucking retard. I can only imagine you as some dickless little autistic shut in that has never really interacted with another human being.
>>689965848
>all things cultural are arbitrary
>therefore culture doesn't matter
this is as dumb as it gets
What a pathetic oversimplification.
>>689966036
learn to read.
>>689965980
It's pretty stupid, when you know what national socialism actually was, and when you know Mussolini's origins in communism, to claim that those weren't simply varieties of leftist statism.
I believe that the free market should govern humanity. The police and other necessities should be provided by the free market.
>>689953577
>stupid millennial faggot detected
>>689953384
Me, I don't give a fuck.
>>689966271
>>689966329
And then the police are entities even more bought out than they currently are, and deny services to some or provide extra services to others.
This free market utopia idea you have is naivety at its best.
>>689966203
I was wrong, it gets even dumber.
>rights are simply consensus feelings, so you have no human rights at all outside of what your community agrees to give you
By the way, I can read. I wonder, can you?
>>689966456
>>689953577
Anarchism is the most extreme form of libertarianism
Liberalism is more closely related libertarianism than any form of conservatism.
Corporate libertarianism is false libertarianism created by conservatives.
>>689965989
Because you seem to imply that morals vanish if muh uncle sam doesn't force them with armored cars and assault rifles.
You're beyond deluded and your comment shows yet again the extent of an average american thought process.
Nobody ever talked about your rancid piece of shit country. There are plenty anarchist communities, hidden from the government in hillsides where nobody ever fucking goes.
As I said, anarchy doesn't work for entire nations but it damn well works for small communities. I'm not living in one, obviously, but I've spent time in some. They're nice but lack technology and overall get fucking dull.
Tastes are different you bridgetroll.
>>689966456
Someone never read social contract theory
Any communists in here?
>>689966488
I have nothing to fear. I have money and ambition.
>>689965848
Pluto is not a planet
Obama is a nigger
Armenia is partially in Europe and partially in Asia
a contractor is part of the contracting company he is hired by, but not part of the company that hires the services of his contracting company
see
perfectly easy to define
>>689953384
Is Fascism really more extreme than Nazism?
>>689964245
It's not morallty right for government to collect taxes? What amazes me is that it's always the same fucks who argue against welfare who think there should be no minimum wages either... Most of the governments in the world today were brought about by armed revolutions that were a result of laissez faire and yet time again assholes try to revert things back... It's only what's fair, if you don't get it, then lucky for you the US is the single "Western" nation that does not provide universal health care, allows for the death penalty (I'm pretty sure you don't care about what your friend Penn Jillette says about that) and recognizes gun ownership as a right. And yet you moralfags criminalize drug use and prostitution, where's the government's right there? American freedom is such a fucking joke... The civilized world on the other hand acknowledges that without some very basic amount of redistribution inequality grows because in the end all your bs is a variation of might makes right. How come you American conservatives aren't looking to legalize trial by combat?
>>689966499
>How could there be warlords in lawless places where there actually are warlords?
Jesus Christ
lolwat
>>689966489
Do tell, what "human rights" do I have outside of what my community agrees not to infringe?
>>689966661
The age group is right (16-21)
>>689966218
Communism, yes.
National socialism, no.
While there is "socialism" in the definition, it refers exclusively to socialism towards the own people. National socialism is an extremeley conservative and racist form of "socialism".
What the fuck do people teach in american schools
>>689966065
>keeps alcohol expensive because drunkards cost the government money
>keeps the price of services and benefitial products lower
B8 harder fgt
>>689965789
Holy fucking shit you're retarded.
>>689966818
If your community decides what "rights' you have, they aren't rights at all, dumbshit, and by the way, according to your dipshit theory, no community could ever commit human rights violations.
>>689966658
I actually have read rousseau and hobbes.
>>689966218
national socialism has nothing to do with classic socialism
back to /pol/ you imbecile
>>689966948
I guess you've never actually read their platform. You should. It's the same statist leftism you see today, overall.
BTW, it probably feels good to insult my education, but I am educated, and it just reduces the dialogue to ad hom b.s.
>>689967143
May as well just use that gun on yourself then
>>689967088
Not really. But you really are a cum-guzzling faggot.
>>689967088
meh, don't entirely agree with that anon but in all fairness American "liberals" would be considered right wingers in pretty much any other Western nation...
>>689966958
Value is subjective, "benefitial" [sic] is subjective. pic related.
>>689967092
When one community commits what is called "human rights violations" it's generally actions that another group are labeling such. For example. Group A is killing group B. Group C calls it a human rights violation.
And they aren't rights in the sense of a prescriptive right, a thing you ought to obey, a thing you are owed, but rather a descriptive right, a description of what people think you are owed. a description of what people think you ought to not infringe.
>>689967143
>>689965989
>I wasn't the one talking about small communities.
I know you fucking mongoloid. I was. You were the one saying "LOL 300 BUGILLION IS SMOL CAMUNITIY?" After I've established that it doesn't work for an entire country.
Are you just too stupid to read or are you actually retarded
>>689967134
I doubt that, since you can't seem to understand that the whole idea of the state in social contract theory is to protect individuals and their property from 'might makes right' atomism.
All that "social construct" b.s. reeks of Derrida and deconstruction.
>>689953384
everyone who isn't socially liberal is a weirdo, fiscally you can be just about anything you want
>>689953384
Whoever made this political spectrum is a mentally ill faggot autist.
>>689966784
care to give an example?
>>689967207
Who said it did, fuckwit? But it IS socialism, and it is leftism. That's just a fact, and no amount of cocksucking on your part will change it, though no doubt you'll suck dozens.
>>689967294
ffs I'm austrian. austrian schools teach national socialism to a stupidly intense depth for 8 years. Mandated by the government.
Stop pretending.
>>689965848
Approximations using math. Take the width of both peninsula's at the mouth and divide the distance to find the middle
>>689966818
I think it was jefferson who wrote that rights exist to protect minorities... In Western countries where we don't fear the NWO will come to take away our guns (aka ALL but one) there's this thing we are trying to build called international law
>>689967526
Actually, republicans give a lot more to charity than do democrats. I suspect that's because Dems think voting to make someone else pay is charitable. The more you know. TM
>>689967635
but might does make right, and what's wrong with "atomism"? Surely you don't think individualism prevents co-operation do you?
>>689967844
Why is the middle the line?
>>689967697
>everyone who isn't socially liberal is a weirdo
So people who embrace trannies and otherkins are normal, and those who think they're mentally ill are weird.
>>689953384
>Nazi
>Right wing
>National Socialist
>Right wing
>National
>Socialist
>Right
>Wing
>>689967768
>pls no ad hominem
>FUCKWIT COCKSUCKER I BET U SUCK TEN THOUSAND DICK HAHAHA OWNED
Right. You're the smart one.
Just try googling the term national socialism and start being surprised by your own stupidity
>>689967932
>>689968102
>americans
>>689967745
Sure. Consider what it looks like in a region of Mexico controlled not by the state but by a cartel.
>>689967875
The smallest minority on earth is the individual, and yet in order for a state to exist the individual must be violated!
Also who cares what jefferson said? Unless you're quoting an argument he made, I don't care about his assertions.
>>689967932
It's easy to be conspicuously compassionate when others are being forced to pay the cost! Good observation.
>>689967834
Ah, then you know that national socialism was a welfare state and that it arose out of the workers party.
I like both, socialism and nazism.
>>689967768
>>689968102
>b..b..but muh conspiruhcy f-from those leftist pigs
>>689968061
>but might does make right
We disagree
>>689968242
I agree, arguing for Nazis to be lefties is fucking retarded...
>>689968312
Ah, I forgot that mexico was an anarchist region.
>>689954197
Same here, I know it's impossible, but pointing to the top is the best way to make things get better.
Politically I'm a left-liberal.
No One party. No One 2016.
>>689967377
There is far more to it.
>Pic related
>>689968373
I can understand that argument so far as the founders intentions or words go, but to say that the constitution has no bearing on how we run our government is absurd and therefore I make the claim that whoever made that image or propagates it is indeed an uneducated moron.
>>689953384
What a shitty fucking chart
>>689953636
You are retarded
>>689968605
>Socialism on a national level
>not leftie
>>689954290
This
>>689968373
So you disqualify my argument about international law on account of me quoting Jefferson? Is this hillbilly logic?
>>689968411
You're joking, right?
So if bernie sanders was using his left winged attitude as a front and managed to become president, then continued to butcher all blacks, muslims and any other kind of foreigners, he would still be left right? I mean he spawned from the left side? Amirite guise???!?!?!?!??
