Serious discussion, how in any way shape or form is keeping a woman in your life a good thing?
i hope you're not saying that the pic is a woman
>>689949886
There is zero advantage, they are a hindrance.
>>689949886
She makes more money than me
>>689949886
sounds like you need to get yourself a real doll
>>689949886
Its not other than sex.
>In the beginning its because you want nothing else
>In the middle its because youre used to her
>In the end its because youre afraid to be alone
>>689949886
We play games together, drink together, and she sucks my dick, so I've got nothing to complain about.
>>689949886
In rare exceptions it's no different than having a pretty guy for a friend.
>>689950354
This guy gets it
>>689950354
Going through it rn
>>689950443
I wish man, it's just they're such a disability to carry around.
>>689950354
So true, like OP being a faggot
>>689950569
absolutely
emotional support, sex whenever you want, if you have a good relationship she will also be your bro and you can ask her to pegg you without fear of being judged
>>689950047
>>689950255
People salty because they can't get girlfriends
>>689950913
I've been with her for three years and the most emotional support she's provided is that when my dog died she changed the subject to about how she stubbed her toe the same day.
I get sex whenever she feels like it.
>>689951258
too bad you gf sucks
>>689949886
dude is not a lady
>>689950354
This
>3rd stage
Right there at the end thats where I am.
I really hope I make her feel for me again. I've been such an asshole.
>>689949886
Just a few reasons why I'm getting engaged:
>She makes twice as much as I do writing code for a national inusrance company, so there's tons of job security
>Her family is awesome, so get togethers are fun as shit with plenty of drinking and card playing
>She's just as independent as me, so afternoons/evenings I spend gaming she'll spend reading/watching something on Netflix
>The sex is awesome, and she's down for almost anything
>As dumb as it sounds, she just gets me. I've come home from work just hating life and some of the autistic people I work with, but she'll always be there offering me a glass of whiskey and listens to me unload how frustrated I get
>my friends love her
I used to think like you did, until I met her. Now I realize I was never better off alone.
>>689951474
Damn right she does, >>689950354 has it right. It's just having a boyfriend would be so much more fulfilling I feel like. Like... what is the point if all that's gonna happen is we'll split up in a few years and she'll try to take all my shit and the law will support her.
There are Few really sad, pathetic fucks in this thread.
To those virgins, stay salty.
>>689951755
I'm so jealous... how'd you find her out of the midst of all the fucking harpies?
>>689949886
You eventually get tired of either having to put the effort into picking up sluts at bars or paying for a hookers.
>>689951755
>checked
You hold onto that bitch bro and don't ever let her go.
>>689951995
eHarmony, actually. I decided to give online dating one last shot. I was 100% honest with who I was and what I wanted. and we just clicked. Shit was cash, especially when we discovered we both listened to the same Finnish death metal.
>>689952213
I fully intend to. The condo we're living in is 100x better than any apartment I've been in. Plus with the money I saved, I bought a motorcycle (which she was 100% behind). We're saving up for a house now. Also, her cat is dank as fuck.
>>689951755
I thought I had this too... for 10 years. I wasted my 20s on that bitch, but honestly I never had what you seem to have, I kind of pretended that she was great, but she was just terrible and I forgave her for a million little things. Her family was garbage too.
>>689952185
Meh I've had long term relationships. I'm actually much happier being single. Ive found I put less money into my hooker fund than I did just having a gf.
>>689952653
OP here, I know the feeling.
>>689952665
Agreed. But you just to control how often you visit. Can't be spending 150-300 every day.
>>689951755
That's almost exactly what I would have said.
Any of you salty bastards complaining how she's a liability or a drag, you've got the wrong one in your life. Having a good woman by your side, makes life next level awesome.
I wouldn't be able to go to college, do my job, and watch my son without my wife.
i fucking feel sorry for american men, they have nothing to choose from but trash.
leave america and your view will change, it just will.
>>689951755
Damn. Sounds just like my relationship
>>689949886
I love my kids, and society says they have to live with mom...so I stick around
>>689953239
Op here, where should I go? I'll run as far as I can... I can't stay like this anymore.
>>689950980
Not them but they're spot on. One ex wife and soon to be ex girlfriend. They are just pains in the ass. They bitch, sure you don't have to work hard for sex on the beginning but that phase ends and honestly I've had an easier time fucking 8/10+ girls that are completely sober and I have extreme social anxiety.
>>689953398
I have full custody of my son, shit does happen sometimes.
>>689949886
I can handle light friendship with a woman, but I have been hiding from relationships for the past 5 years after my last traumatic relationship with a woman. I've also been happier than I have been since I was a child these past 5 years. I do what I want, when I want. I think I'll stick with that.
>>689951846
Itd be the damn same with a man
>>689953404
somewhere other than america. american women aren't worth it. south america, eastern europe, hell even africa or the middle east...somewhere where women aren't afraid to be women. women are sexy and fun, corrupted american females are not.
>>689953521
Usually unless your ex is off the wall crazy, dies or abandons you that doesn't happen.
>>689951258
What a shitty GF anon, unless she is a 9-10/10 and godlike to fuck I don't see the reason to keep her around
>>689953404
England, or the general UK area. I worked with a guy from England, and when I mentioned that I love women with English accents, he said that it's the same way in England with women and American accents. If you want that same level of interest just from your accent, go there.
>>689949886
splitting bills makes life a hell of a lot easier, we've got dogs and a small business so it helps that one of us can tend to those things when the other isn't able, she cooks and does most of the laundry, regular sex and blowjobs, basic human companionship. real question- are you autistic?
>>689952989
The sex is better and even with the cost I still have sex about 80% as frequently as I did in a relationship. that coupled with the random bar pick up more than covers the rest.
>>689953239
>mostly trash
There are still good girls here you just have to actually put forth some damn effort.
>>689952893
My life is absolute shit and I think getting rid of her was actually a step in the right direction. If I wasn't so fucking broke I'd pack a bag and leave the country forever.
>>689953723
My states very close to down the middle on it.... That and my ex is crazy
>>689953239
If all hes found in america is trash thats all he'll find elsewhere too m8. Its him not them.
>>689951755
Good work nigga. I know there are awesome women out there. I'm just at the point where I'm not sure if it's worth wading through the ocean of shit to find one hidden gem.
>>689954089
Spoiler alert: it is
All that trash you go through makes your gem shine so much brighter
>>689954033
if we were talking about any other country than america, you'd be correct. american girls are without doubt the least appealing of any country i have ever lived in/travelled to on account of their robotic personalities. china is second.
>>689953737
She's an 8 hawaiian-asian mix. Huge ass, great hips, and too shy to cheat on anyone with.
But she's so fucking self-destructive, hates outdoors and people, puts up with me because she feels guilty, wants to live in a fucking shithole town, and refuses to try to do anything good for herself. Any ideas I throw out she thinks are god awful and recomends we sit inside and watch anime instead of having jobs or eating healthy. The town she's in doesn't get fresh fruit except for late spring, every other time the market is covered in fruit flies.
>>689953808
I don't have the looks for a bar pick up or the money for grade-A girls, but an occasional, almost vomit-inducing, 30 minutes with a 50 year old asian with a cesarean scar, i can do.
>>689949886
She get's me to be the better version of myself, make me laugh, cook very well and clean, also she's a 10/10
Love is beautiful
>>689954250
Then you were in a shitty area. Murrica is a big place.
>>689951755
Ahh the delusions of an engaged man.
>>689953398
This is why I never want kids. Ever. If men ever have rights in custody cases, sure, but that wont happen.
>>689954538
>delusions
He probably took the time and put forth the effort to find a girl worth actually chasing. It's what i did.
>>689954311
Then just go to the supermarket wtf
It's not like the fruits there are of bad quality
>>689953478
how did you get the chance to fuck 8/10+ girls with social anxiety?
>>689954204
Yeh I'd agree with this, even though it sounds a bit wet.
My missus is cool, been together since we were teens. Mess around like mates do, got a cool family going, it's all going pretty good. None of this bitterness that you see here, no resentment, no rules on what I can or can't do, no problems.
Get a decent one and it's smooth sailing.
>>689953521
She must be an unbelievable monster for the courts to give you custody over her.
>>689954538
Not quite, nigga. Everything I said is 100% truth. I wouldn't have proposed if it wasn't.
>>689954788
If you take the time to make sure your woman is worth marrying it will never be an issue. So basically you just dont trust yourself not to make that mistake.
>>689954788
Depends where you live
>>689954788
>>689950354
Sadfrog.gif
>>689954866
That's what I was talking about. The town has one place to buy food and they don't even take care of it.
>>689949886
Cause its not fuckin GAY! LIKE YOU!!
FAG!
Fancy a bum?
>>689954871
Spoiler: their only 8/10 lookwise not mentally
>>689954871
Well you obviously have to go to them first.
>>689955060
was meant to respond to
>>689954843
>>689954902
My state has about a 60/40 of women to men winning the cases.
>>689955285
>My brotha from anotha motha
These fools dont understand that if you go the easy way you'll always get shit on in the end.
>>689954538
Ahh the angst of a jealous and lonely neckbeard.
>>689950354
>In the end its because youre afraid to be alone
Or, according to stats, you have a 50% chance in the end that you are so sick of her shit, being alone is preferable/enjoyable.
I've been with my gf for seven years now. Best person I've ever known. If it wasn't for her, I'd have already taken my own life.
>Marriage is meaningless
>You lose money by getting married
>The tax benefits are not worth it
>Gays just want to feel normal, but its just more conformity, only reason they fight for it
Have a friend who's paying 20k for the wedding. 20k you will never get back from benefits.
>>689949886
fucking traps
>>689953901
Most states are except two where is only that way if you're married.
I have 50/50 with mine but full custody is rare for men unless your ex like yours is bat shit.
>>689954204
You sure you don't just lower your standards to the point where trash looks like a gem and you can only differentiate between her and complete shit.
>>689955460
Yup.
I almost fell into their camp when I moved to the small town where my job is. It was super easy to pick up chicks at dive bars because I actually had money, a steady job, and a car that worked. They were all fucking psychos, and I guarantee I would have hated life if I ended up with one of them. When I actually put the time and effort into finding what I wanted....I actually found what I wanted.
>>689955585
My wife bought me a fairly decent tvr for my birthday from her own savings, it cost more than our reasonably fancy wedding on the other side of the world, so again, pick a good one and you're fine.
To be fair though, if you're looking at marriage as a balance sheet, it's probably not for you anyway.
>>689954978
>So basically you just dont trust yourself not to make that mistake.
Exactly. I've also had seriously traumatic experiences with women my entire life starting from birth (mother is batshit crazy. Literally). I'm kind of uneasy around them in general. Why the fuck couldn't I have been a gayfag?
My wife supports me and buys me pot while I sit on the couch all day. No other woman would do that. Plus she sucks my dick and fucks me twice a week. I had 5 strokes last year. She didn't leave me. I'm not going to leave her.
I'm a trophy husband
>>689956280
>Why the fuck couldn't I have been a gayfag?
Because you're cautious and wary, not a deranged mental case.
>>689956096
I just dont understand why people pay for anything other than the 60 dollar license.
>>689955585
I'm not paying $20k for my wedding, that's retarded. My wedding will be about $4k, if that.
>>689956350
I'm a model husband, but my wife is sad that I'm not a working model. ha!
I'm married and in the process of adding a mistress.
How fucked am I?
>>689956280
Similar experience with women. My mother is a manipulative cunt.
>>689956504
He's mexican and has a massive family, at 300 dollars a head it adds up pretty quick
>>689956586
Not really if you do it right. I think most guys do shit on the side. probably better to stick with hookers though since they won't try to blackmail you later.
>>689956435
Because it was a fun day. Our friends and family flew out, we all had a big get-together and a generally very pleasant time.
I'd agree that the money spent on the majority of cookie cutter weddings is a bit of a waste, but doing something a little different is worth it.
>>689955000
Where do men have those rights?
>>689956682
Fair enough.
>>689956586
The problem is fella, is that eventually they start to fall for you. You don't end it at the right time and it gets messy. Know the right time to call it off, even if it's some 'just for fun' deal.
>>689956018
Oh yeah when i was young and stupid i kept going after sluts and trash. I fucked this one girl her friend and the friends sister all in one week. Then dated the sister. Then wondered why she cheated on me in the end like a dumbass. Realized if they're easy they're worthless and it was my fault for going after them.
>>689956280
At least you admit you're the problem and not women.
>>689955364
Wow. What fucking state is that? I didn't think we had those rights anywhere in 'Murrica at least.
>>689954927
Aww, see you on here in 5 years talking about killing yourself.
>mfw these young boys always learn the hard way
Dont knock her up anon
>>689957072
Good lesson learned. If you can pick one up in a club or with next to no effort, that's exactly the type you'll get - some cheap slut.
>>689949886
It used to be a good thing back when women were obedient, stayed at home, cooked, cleaned, and raised children. Now everything's supposed to be 50/50 or in a lot of cases, women put 100% on the man. The whole idea of marriage actually being a decent idea for a male went out the window a long time ago.
>>689956586
Im married and about to get a 2nd wife that so happens to be my wife's best friend.
>1 man with many women is the natural way
>>689957277
Now im this guy
>>689957291
>>689957291
That's a lot of pubic hair shavings clogging up yer drains is how I see it. Too many women = plumbing issues. Don't be that guy.
Also, married men live longer.
>>689957278
>not finding an obedient woman who cooks, cleans, and raises your children.
This is still the standard. Only idiots try that 59/50 bullshit.
>>689949886
are you an Orlando survivor?
>>689957496
I got shit for that and they clean up after themselves because both are quality women.
>>689956598
My nigga. Was your father also your hero? My father was fucking flawless.
>>689950913
Suggested toys for peg-related activities?
Faggots, just go to Finland and you'll find a woman that's pretty & cares for you & will have children with you and she won't be some depression wierdo bitch.
I live in Sweden, ez pz goals 4 me.
Oh yeah, I know how you feel OP. In my case: Married too soon, kids too soon, kinda lost friends, max 2 times sex a month. But yeah realizing my life would probably go to hell without her, cause instable as fuck. Shes not bad per se, she's actually a good woman, independant and stuff, but I keep wondering what if.. If we didn't have kids, my decision would have been made I guess, but for now I kinda keep on hoping, things will get better.. whatever.. :D
>>689957496
Plumber here, this guy is right
>>689957751
If he was flawless he wouldnt have married that shrew of a woman
Because I miss her when she's not around
Because I like looking at her face
Because she has a great ass
Because when she cries it reminds me I still feel stuff
>>689950047
Basically this. Theyre awful, i hate my gf
>>689956435
The more I thought about it, the more I agreed with
>>689956875
We're planning on having a huge picnic. The ceremony will only be about 20 minutes, if that. The rest of the day will have bag toss, bocce ball, volleyball. Food is typical Wisconsin grilled food (brats, burgers, hot dogs) and plenty of beer. It's gonna be awesome.
>>689957258
Not planning on it. I got a vasectomy. I'll see you in 5 years talking about how awesome it is to actually find a good woman in a sea of harpies.
>pic related
>>689957893
I didn't sign up for these feels anon
>>689957751
Lucky you. It was/is a competition between my parents to see who is the biggest piece of shit. I think I hate my father more than my mother, but they're such garbage that there's no point comparing them.
>>689957893
>when she cries it reminds me i feel stuff
This too damn much, anon.
>>689949886
My gf wakes me up every morning and asks to duck in the shower and instead of looking through my phone when im sleeping she likes to take pictures if her naked self on my phone so idk
>>689957737
I dunno brother, I value my pipes - a second would have to be pretty special before I'd risk it. Or bald, one of those people with no hair at all. That would do it, she can draw on eyebrows and buy a wig. I think I've cracked it, cheers man.
>>689957142
>At least you admit you're the problem
Absolutely. I have a hard fucking time noticing signs that I need to GTFO. There does seem to be a pretty thick concentration of women who no sense of responsibility and are only out to help themselves though.
>>689957982
>You hate yourself for your poor choices in women
FTFY
>>689957893
Jesus... Why don't you go check if they reopened Pulse.
>>689958223
This is true too. I want to leave her but my gf is truly mentally ill, and im afraid she will kill herself.
Wat do?
>>689958204
Ill agree with that. It takes work to weed out the garbage but its also really easy too.
>>689958001
>i have a vasectomy
Hahahaha
See you in 3 years
Hahahaha
Oh man, youre kill me. I aint mad because im not about to marry a woman who has societial expectations that i cant live up to.
>i got a vasectomy
3 years tops anon
>>689958350
Dissapear, man. Move and cut off all contact. It is literally the only way to get rid of real crazy.
>been there, done that, got the T-shirt
>>689957893
I wanted to mock this but I kind of get it. Begrudging well done to you.
>>689958350
...Sounds like a "her" problem, not a "me" problem.
>>689957777
Ahem* quads. Suggestions pl0x
>>689958350
This
>>689958518
Leave her and understand that if she does an hero, it's 100% because she was crazy not because of you.
>>689958287
What is gay about what I just said? Are you insecure about your sexuality, anon?
>>689958369
>societial expectations
wtf are you even babbling about? What "societial" expectations have I even mentioned? Jesus christ, no wonder you hate women, most of them probably can't stand you.
>>689950047
>>689949886
1. Companionship
2. Having someone to trust with all your secrets
3. The good feelings you get from helping to take care of someone else.
Often, its hard to find someone you can stand to be around that long, or someone you can really trust.
I will assert this with confidence: Find someone with a hobby (that isn't destructive or too expensive), and you will have found yourself a decent person to be with for the rest of your life.
It is NOT easy to find someone with a real hobby in this day and age, because they're busy enjoying their hobby and not out fishing for men.
>>689957816
>Faggots, just go to Finland...
I keep hearing non-US women are so much better.
Any opinion on Swiss women? I have solid connections there. It's rare to see anything less than a 7/10. Especially in Zurich.
>>689958581
I don't know, maybe coming out of the fucking closet first might help you open your eyes and asshole to some new ideas.
>>689958826
Topkek
>>689958761
hes referring to the whole women wanting children thing, but hes still a faggot
>>689957854
My mom is good at keeping her insanity covered up until you are in too deep. I've seen her do it to 6 or so times. Not dads fault.
>>689951995
You just keep on dating and dumping til you get the right one. It's not rocket appliances.
>>689958743
Sorry, I'm just a cynical piece of shit.
>>689958761
>>689958761
>he doesnt understand married women crave children
Aww anon, surely you have thought about this. Dude listen, about 3 years after you are married your wife is gonna start dropping subtle hints about children, she will. You can't provide that for her unless you get it reversed, if you dont get it reversed she will leave you. It happens. But what do i know, it isnt like i thought about my ex wife like you do now.
>pro tip: people change, no exceptions
>>689958770
They're uppity. Also the whole german language thing is a turn off, it's harsh man like they're always angry. There's plenty of gentile french speaking ones sure, but it's calmer waters elsewhere. Finland isn't actually a bad idea. Jackpot if you find an icelander, anyone that leaves the country seems to be gorgeous - like they're sent as ambassadors or advertisements into the world.
>>689949886
If you're not in America, Canada, the UK, or anywhere with a feminist presence, it's a fantastic idea. Obligated to fuck you, the community might stone her for cheating/trying to cuck you, marriage actually means something.
However, if you DO live in one of those places, you can enjoy one of the following options:
-be with someone ugly who can't cheat on/cuck you
-be hermits to physically prevent her from doing the above
-have your marriage devolve into an "open relationship," wherein you get no pussy at all and Tyrone is in your bed each night making your kids
-its not even disguised as "open," and you're a literal cuck
-she won't even keep you around as a cuck and divorces you. Say goodbye to that prenuptial; she made false abuse claims, and now has 60% of your shit and you're despised all over the country
Of course, I'm the kind of idiot who wants a relationship anyway
>>689959020
Nah m8 you always know. Your just protecting your idealistic view of your father and blaming your mother who is very easy to blame because she is such shit.
>>689958826
I use what I use...
My wife needs more options. Suggest stuff.
>>689958766
Don't care about that.
Don't really have secrets, and I don't see the point in sharing them
Don't get good feelings from that
>>689958518
She has good intentions, and is very caring. But the extent of her feelings are limited to her own strong emotions and almost no empathy at all.
She is incapable of understanding certain things, it all tends to be pretty black and white with her. She cant see in betweens, and is terrible w compromising. This makes talking out problems near impossible. She hears something even slightly negative and its the waterworks..
She basically has no life of her own, extremely dependant emotionally, everything is an 'us'. I tend to value personal time and space.
She stresses me out, and i dont think i love her anymore (she has changed a great deal since i met her), but i still care too much to break her heart...
I already know the longer i draw this out the worse, and that feeling sucks. I know what i need to do but im weak as fuck
>>689958365
Hopefully I will gain those skills.
>>689955533
underrated post
>>689959263
>Tfw American
>tfw married to a 7.5/10 wonderful woman
>tfw about to get second wife who is just as good as first
Marriage no matter what country is what you make of it.
A long-term relationship is fun to try at least once.
But if it ends, and you don't want another one, then just move on.
I was in a six-year relationship, it ended, I've been single for four years and have no desire to have another one. I enjoy being single. A lot of people make themselves miserable with marriage.
If you think you'll always be horny and want a wife to fuck, then three things to keep in mind: first, your sex drive diminishes with time. And second, your wife won't always necessarily want sex as much as you do. Third, it's easier to masturbate when you're single.
Have a good day /b/. From a 32-year-old anon
>>689959263
I need to get the fuck out of this country. I've been looking for work in Spain but no luck. I knew I should have learned a 3rd fucking language.
>>689957816
Are you learning Arabic fast enough?
>>689959218
Both of us not wanting kids was a big reason why I started dating her. I'm 33, she's 36, so we're both pretty good with that that choice.
I know this is probably super hard for you to understand, so read it a few times until you full comprehend it.
Not all women want kids.
Go ahead, re-read that.
Not all women want kids.
>HERP DURP ALL WOMEN CHANGE THEIR MINDS I'M SO WISE AND KNOWLEDGEABLE LOLOLTOPKEKZOZZLE
k pal.
Among all my friends, she's my best friend. Been married 11 years.
She helps with everything around the house, she makes most of the money.
I can talk to her about anything. There are no secrets.
We still fuck like bunnies. She lets me fuck her however I want and likes it.
What's not to like?
>>689949886
Well when you're not a fucking faggot it's actually pretty nice.
>>689959335
I'm the guy who stayed in a shit relationship for 10 years... I'M weak as fuck. You just gotta do it like a band-aid and get the fuck out. If she's gonna do herself in you better not be around when she does.
>>689959295
Not saying my father wasn't flawed and I do have problems noticing any flaw he bad because he was an overwhelmingly positive influence on my life. He just had a problem weeding out the trash, just like I do. Guess that's where I got it.
>>689959705
Dude, i saw your story and it hit close to home. You can disregard what i say and have been through, that is fine, but i thought maybe youd like to take off the rose tinted glasses for a bit. Sure maybe you snagged a rare one, kudos. But please remember what i said, keep it in the back of your mind. Because the odds are against you
>>689959220
> They're uppity
I was afraid of that. I grew up listening to the German language (and that damn Swiss dialect) so it isn't much of a turnoff for me.
Now a French woman, say even western Switzerland.... Considering where I normally travel, perhaps that would be a better target.
>>689959705
>Not all women want kids right now
They all want them eventually
>>689959968
Its not genetic anon. It's a learned behavior as in you have to learn how to disregard the bitches.
>>689959218
you're an idiot
>>689960457
How so kid? Listen if a woman says she doesnt wamt kids, she is lying
>>689960102
If you think you're the first person who has warned me about the whole not wanting kids thing, you're seriously more delusional than I thought.
>She doesn't want kids.
>She's never wanted kids.
>I don't want kids.
>I've never wanted kids.
>I ended my last 4+ year relationship with a bi-gamer girl who got me into swinging because she wanted to be open to having kids.
I have no idea why the concept of not wanting kids is so alien, but we're both good.
I'm not going to disregard what you went through because clearly it was enough for you to hold some stupid grudge by the last woman who fucked you up against all women everywhere.
But I'm going to disregard what you have to say because, again
>not having kids was part of the reason why we're together.
>>689960421
>They all want them eventually
Yeah, see above, I'm not typing this shit out again.
>>689959318
I'll buy this answer that you do not need a girlfriend or lover for happiness. Meaningful friendships can fulfill your innate need of others - but to deny you do not get good feelings from being helpful to others is to deny millions of years of evolution. It's partly why living among murders and rapists is preferred over solitary confinement.
Our emotional lives are contagious.
>>689960744
>is this confident
>has to keep replying to reassure himself
Sure thing bud.
3-5 years
>>689960620
How so?
you just showed me again by repeatedly being unable to understand that people are different.. Maybe most women want kids yes but not all.
>>689959218
I've been married that long and my wife is still emphatic that if I want kids its either a surrogate or a divorce. Are you sure you've met two people in your life?
>>689959318
>Don't really have secrets, and I don't see the point in sharing them
There is a double, yet mutually incompatible statement in here.
>>689960744
This stupid faggot sure is in for a surprise in a few years. Either she'll want kids or his relationship will fall apart.
>>689960938
I keep replying because autists like you keep making autistic responses.
>>689959335
>almost no empathy at all
Empathy is not necessarily a useful emotion. It's widely misunderstood.
>>689950354
shit most of my friends start relationships because they are afraid to be alone and grow into being used to her +being afraid of being alone. They bitch about hoe respectless their women treat them but they would never leave them because they know how hard it is to find someone else
>>689960972
Wait til that bioclock starts ticking.
>>689950662
Which part /b/ro
>>689961348
What age is that going to happen?
>>689959218
>>689959705
>>689960972
Yes, women are capable of very dramatic changes!
goddamn! my wife sure changed. She went from wanting kids to wanting nothing to do with our two children. She left, and left the kids with me to pursue much more fun activities.
I went on to raise my kids with someone else more stable, and life is good (for me).
My ex wife has been married twice and divorced twice since she left me. She's alone, but still partying like it's happy hour.
>>689961434
My ex wife's brain did a flip flop almost exactly when she turned 30.
>>689961162
>Either she'll want kids
No she won't.
>his relationship will fall apart.
Honestly, at this point you sound like the type of person who got dumped once and now you're just swearing off women entirely.
>>689961883
That's 6 days from now... I'm going to pack a bag just in case.
>>689949886
Isn't it something you want until you actually get it?
>>689950026
she is, her waist is above the navel
>>689959335
>very caring
>limited to her own strong emotions and almost no empathy at all
sounds contradicting
>>689949886
Depends on the woman. If you have a good relationship, then yeah.
If not, there is no point.
Many anons are bitter and unhappy out of either envy or frustration at a bad situation.
>>689961978
Relax, it probably doesn't happen to every woman. Is she particularly vain? love to shop for the latest fashion, makeup, taking great pains to keep herself beautiful? Does she ask your opinion of how she looks all the time, but doesn't necessarily respect your opinion (because you're her man)?
What kind of hobbies does she have otherwise?
>>689952665
I don't get how long term GFs cost ppl money. My fiance was a financial burden while I supported her in grad school but now that she is working she makes more then me.
Our income is combined and we can buy way nicer stuff then I'd ever afford on my own. Sure I could call the decorative bullshit "a waste of my money" but the $1800 PC we are getting next week that I just bought for the hell of it more then makes up for it.
>>689949886
You can teach her to shut the fuck up with her stupid shit instead of having to show it to multiple women
>>689959335
You gotta bail bro.
>>689961978
>not impregnating your wife
Seriously what is wrong with you faggots? Are you even men?
>>689958770
they can look good but the swiss accent will drive you nuts
>>689949886
Women are distracting emotionally, and therefore mentally. I do my damndest to avoid allowing feelings to affect any decision of mine, and love is particularly abhorrent to the logic which I hold so dear. I have but one woman who I have ever admired, she outdid me in my own game. Other than that, all companionship, save for my one friend, who is quiet, loyal, and a constant presence without being a nuisance has been removed from my life.
Anyway, hit me up at baker street if you guys want to discuss more, I'll be at 221b
>>689962570
Not all that vain, at least compared with other women I've been with. Definitely a feminist, but considers people like Anita Sarkeesian, Hillary Clinton, and the rest of the manhating club a blight on the movement. Shows a lot of respect for my opinion, though obv impossible to tell what's in her head. Hobbies mostly center around books and liquor.
>>689962321
That is a man, you homosexual. He has posted gifs here quite often
Don't tell your girl you love her. It's a mistake to do that. Just be cool, funny and polite like you were when you were dating. She should yearn for your affection. Maintain who you are, always.
>>689958766
>Not being your own best friend and creating your own.
>having secrets
>not taking care of people regardless of whether or not you're in a relationship and expected to do so.
>>689962907
> underrated post
>>689963104
>Hobbies mostly center around books and liquor.
Oh shit. Well, what kind of books does she read? Any particular author? No gardening, no art, no coins or stamp collecting, cooking, or gazing at the stars and taking notes, or studying something in particular, fitness, kids, family, volunteering in her community?
Is she good with money? does she take pride in anything in particular that she can be proud of because she did it or made it?
>>689962907
>i couldn't get a girl if i wanted to
the post
>>689949886
So finally your coming out of te closet as a gay man
Good for you
28, 12
>>689963668
>Being illiterate
As far as the women in my league are concerned, then yes they would be a liability rather than an asset. People arguing otherwise are actually trying to argue its better to have trash in your house than nothing at all. I will make being single work one way or another because the two alternatives are either suicide or having a 2/10 SJW/gold digger constantly waiting for me to slip up.
>>689963943
>being a social outcast
>>689963663
Very proud of her writing, has published several novels. Reads mostly urban fantasy. Big on cooking, studies a lot of equine/canine biology and used to be a trainer before we moved to the city. Great with money, could let her run the whole thing if I wasn't the least trusting person in history.
>>689963943
Jeremy Brett is the best Holmes ever.
Never understood why my friends give all their energy to get and somehow hold shitty women, living in constant fear to be left, living with constant nagging and being left in the end nevertheless. Then I met an incredible southern european who was on the same waveleangth with me but it didn't work out unfortunately. I had my first good sex with a polish girl.
The way she looked into my eyes when she blew me and hoe she kissed all my body... My closest friends are 100% serious when they tell me only less attractive and chubby girls are good at sex because they can't rely on their looks and have to make up for it. Mfw guys who are in relationships for years still never experienced a girl who liked to suck their dicks.
middle and western European women kind of think when they don't act like selfhating men copies men will fuck up their shit, while south and eastern europeans don't think being born as a woman is a disatvantage and they don't hate men
>>689949886
Your body looks pretty disgusting, dude. I'm guessing you smell like old cheese.
>>689949886
In my experience they only bring about sex, the occasional good time, and a hormone called Oxytocin that is extremely akin to a drug.
Oxytocin is dangerous. It is what produces the suicidal effect of a serious breakup. It will leave you worse than when it arrived. It is a mess of chemicals that is not necessarily required for survival. It provides only comfort.
Males and females exist to procreate. That's it. Genes being passed down. Sorry to be so pragmatic, but there is no traditional sense of "love" anymore, every relationship is doomed to fail as evidenced in ever increasing divorce statistics.
My advice: don't get involved. You'll save time, stress, grief, and money. You can get an ample supply of this "feel good" hormone from just hanging around with friends. You don't need to fuck them, that only produces endorphins.
It all amounts to chemicals. Yet people make love to romanticize love. Focus on what's important. Sadly, today, that's money. Love can come later, if you want it.
Also, OP is a massive faggot and a dick is hiding between those legs.
>>689963483
>Not being your own best friend and creating your own.
I don't understand this one.
>having secrets
well, having secrets can be as bad as knowing your criminal history and fetishes, to something benign as your medical history or that you're a trump fan.
>not taking care of people regardless of whether or not you're in a relationship and expected to do so.
there is something to taking care of someone, and doing things for them that you'd have to pay someone else a lot of money to do. I clean my wife's ears out, and I massage her legs when they're sore, and I know exactly how she likes her coffee, and she knows exactly how I like mine. It's really benign stuff.
It's really good to help take care of other people because of the genuine care we have for humanity, but there is limitations to it. And others can take advantage of help that you give them easier than your m8 can.
>>689964160
> urban fantasy
As long as it isn't shitty werewolf romance paperbacks and more Neverwhere shit
>>689964271
damn straight
>>689964151
>Considering that a problem
>>689964613
> not considering that a problem
>>689964160
I think hobbies really help to balance a person out. My first wife really didn't have them, and constantly craved immediate satisfaction of different sorts - and so when she turned 30, it was like a whirl wind of changes.
I'm not sure how you can facilitate her writing hobby without being obvious about it, but anything you can do to bolster that will be feathers in your cap, and aid to the stability of your relationship with her.
>>689964938
>>689964613
It depends on why someone is a social outcast. Someone can be a social outcast simply because they're exceptionally shy and withdrawn, and socially awkward.
If they're a social outcast because they lie habitually, or belong to Black Lives Matter and can't stop talking about white privilege or racism, then it's a whole new matter.
just find the 1 in 10000000000
>>689966289
The odds are not that steep
>>689964377
Boys, we've found a scientist.
>>689949886
They're soft, except they also have bones.
>>689965359
>e] [Auto] 9
both are failures tbh
>>689966289
it's more like 1 in 3
>>689964962
Yeah, I think people with nothing going on in their lives are the first to crave kids, because kids are the ultimate in "I made a thing" since they're incredibly easy to make and have significant emotional impact
>>689958770
Zurich has the most beautiful women I've ever seen.
>>689950354
Dude. I actually got something meaningful from 4chan today. I'm going thru this right now and it's true. I mean I love her but I hate her. We've built a life together for 10 years. Ive been a less than perfect husband and she's been a less than perfect wife (I'm probably more to blame tbh) and we just feed off that antimocity and it won't end. Sleeping on the couch and discussing divorce the last few weeks. It's more likely than not that it will happen.
>>689967401
after all many millionaires live there so there should be many women trying to get a good catch
>>689967266
>he thinks kids are easy
top kek
also
>not wanting to impregnate your wife is like not wanting to sleep in your bed
33/m, USA, I'm not rich but I have a pretty nice life in Jackson township, ohio. $180k house that I bought in an economic downturn for pennies on the dollar that has since rebounded over double my investment. It is all mine and I take in one roommate at a time to pay for the utilities and have a little non-committed company from my female lesbo roomy. I pick up women regularly. I fuck them and forget them. If I start to get feeling for them I will start to pick them apart until they run away. Relationships aren't for me especially when they involve shared finances.
Anon, my whole world is all about me and my choices. I answer to no one, I share nothing, I fuck about 10 sexy women per year and it's fucking amazing.
The point I'm trying to make here is, women are pointless in the long term, they are only good for sex and some entertainment. I even cook better than they do.
But the most fundamental issue here today is: just because women are worthless dependents doesn't mean you need to fuck a man that wants to be a woman.
Faggot.
>>689949886
Enjoy spending time together, talking together, going out together.
See it as a new best friend except you can fuck them.
>>689968012
There are literally mentally retarded people that have made kids. You put your dick in something, swirl it around until it sprays in her, then wait awhile for a baby to come out the bottom. Raising it is a bit more challenging, but making a kid is about as challenging as making a cake.
>>689955585
Nobody is forcing you to pay a lot for your wedding, if your friend is comfortable paying 20k, why would that be your problem?
>>689960744
His point was that people change and what usually happens is that even women who say that they dont want children will some day change their mind. Ive seen it happen. Ive Seen women as old as 43 suddenly change their mind and wanting children. Again people change. Nothing lässt forever
>>689964447
>there is something to taking care of someone and doing things for them
See i dont get this. I had to grow up and adapt to having to take care of and deal with my own shit. Since i have been able to do this, its hard to imagine people that NEED others to do shit for them.
>>689968309
was referring to the raising part. also getting pregnant is actually quite a challenge. with a healthy woman you still only have a 30% chance of knocking her up.
>>689968751
it is not about being unable to do something, it is about empathy, commitment and showing that you care. If you really don't get that concept then relationships aren't for you
>>689968457
It will become his problem later. The conversation usually includes "well X paid 20k for their wedding! Why aren't you doing the same for me? Am i not good enough?" And so on and so on.
>>689969174
>marrying a girl that shallow
that's on you m8. my girl could give a fuck less about how much her ring costs and she still doesn't know to this day.
>>689969127
Fair enough. i guess the real kicker is whether or not you are depressed about your situation. Single or married.
>>689969174
That means you've picked the wrong girlfriend.
Thank god mine isn't such a materialistic cunt. She sometimes offers to pay for shit even though she knows I don't like it when she does.
>>689969174
"Are you retarded?"
This is why my ex left
>>689969432
For some, thats all they can choose from. Thats how shallow bitches get married in the first place. And if hes one of those guys, then it will absolutely be a problem for him later.
>>689949886
What you get with a girlfriend:
>sex (when she wants to give it to you)
>higher social standing (unless your gf is fat and/or ugly)
>arguments about nothing
>spending your hard earned money on useless shit she wants
>being pressured to do things you don't wanna do
>being pressured to let friends go
>being pressured to give up hobbies and shit that makes you happy
>possibilities of being falsely accused of domestic violence or sexual assault
>having your life ruined when she decides to have a kid
What you get without a girlfriend:
>independence
>self esteem
>you get to keep your things, hobbies, friends, and money
>>689969825
>all they can choose from
this is never the case. you always have the option to go for non shallow girls. if you aren't currently "good enough" to get them then you can make yourself better as girls are attracted to status/success and not physical looks. although if you are a 2/10 or disfigured then sorry you're just screwed.
>>689970151
>this is never the case
>states how it can be the case
Thats what i meant. Everybody has a ceiling. A 2/10 will never become an 8. For some, its either trash or nothing.
>>689970367
2/10s are rare AF though.
>>689970489
I wouldnt say so. I am one and i dont consider myself a special snowflake to the point that i should be a rarity.
I see a few codependent borderline anons in this thread.
Enjoy the poor house and pointless fights.
>>689949886
havent seen assbro in a while
>>689949886
Companionship, love, security, sex, children, legal benefits just off the top of my head.
>>689968832
If your husband can't get it up for you 4 times, you should either get your grooming routine in order or encourage him to fantasize about his highschool boyfriend while impregnating you.
>>689949886
Well 55 percent or 200 dollars, which ever is less, goes towards child support every paycheck, and my gf pretty much pays for everything, so there is that..
>>689949886
Tax benefits if American. That's all I got. Been married 7 years and all that cunt does is make me crazy. If it weren't for kids Ida split years ago
>>689961415
The end
>>689972256
Mines pregnant and won't even look at the dick. And she's mean.
Got a side piece g2g on Saturday. I know she's going to catch feelings buuut I don't get an ounce of crazy out of her.
