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Dear Amerifags:
I'm hearing very negative things about both Clinton and Trump taking office, nothing good. If everybody hates both of the nominees for president, then how are they the nominees?
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because the vast majority of voters in the US do not internet well and will vote for someone that they read false information about and do no fact checking.
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>>689771535
Because they fucking cheat. There is no democratic process, only people who buy the presidency.
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>>689771928
This.

In the case of my parents, they think Hill is legit, even though they have reviewed none of her past history, and think just cause she was a good speaker back in 2008 she is fit to run.

Brainwashed by the Democrats (myself independent)

Other side is politicallied roofied by everything.
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>>689771535
Clinton is a member of the political elite and used the System to her advantage, and was basically coronated from the start. Trump on the other hand, used his 40+ years of media spotlight experience and persuasion skills to beat 17 other candidates starting with a less than 1% chance of success, and worked his way to the top the hard way. He earned his spot, Clinton was given her spot.
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>>689773792
Bonus, they haven't even watched the debates.
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>>689773829
Yep.
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>>689773829
/thread
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>>689773829
And yet Trump supports Clinton. There's really no difference between the two.
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>>689773829

/thread
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>>689771535
The Democrats are great at propaganda and brainwashing. The schools and media are almost entirely left-leaning and lay it on thick. They also pander to minorities, especially blacks who sre completely dependant on the system. This creates hordes of dem-zombies who are too weak to resist their programming. These mobs will vote Democrat every time, because they think republicans are evil. Ask them any question or criticize their policies and you will receive insults...nothing more, nothing less. Never an explanation.

The rest of us will do everything in our power to make sure our kids can grow up in a safe and secure environment. That means stopping democrats. Which means we vote for the best people available to do that: republicans.

And that is how the two party system thrives.
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>>689774491
How, because he was paid to go their wedding?
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>>689774904
According to the left wing media, that's what they think

>OH HE HAD THEM COME TO HIS WEDDING SO THAT MEANS HE SUPPORTS HILLARY

No.
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>>689774685
The Repulblicans are great at propaganda and brainwashing. The gun clubs and biggest news orginization are extreme right-wing and lay it on thick. They also pander to uneducated, especially southerners who sre completely dependant on the system. This creates hordes of repub-zombies who are too weak to resist their programming. These mobs will vote Republican every time, because they think democrats are evil. Ask them any question or criticize their policies and you will receive insults...nothing more, nothing less. Never an explanation.

The rest of us will do everything in our power to make sure our kids can grow up in a safe and open environment. That means stopping republicans. Which means we vote for the best people available to do that: democrats.

And that is how the two party system thrives.
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>>689771535
Clinton is highly connected, a powerful minority backs (and loves) Trump
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>>689775655
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>>689775740
actually, the establishment doesn't really like the guy knowing he doesn't have a shot. It's the minority of regular folks that love and support him. Because he hates what they hate, even if he doesn't explain how he's going to get anything done, he can pander like a king. You gotta respect that.
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>>689776064
It really isnt a minority of people if he's pulling in record number of votes.
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>>689771535
Because there are idiots on both sides of the political party.
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>>689776429
So did Bern, but he didn't have a shot either. The field on the Repub side was so weak they created this monster that took away their years of relying on the fact that the extreme right wingers would vote for their less extreme candidate because they wouldn't actually put anyone forward that openly talks about how shitty non white people are. The monster is created and when almost 70% of the country hates the guy, it doesn't matter that 30% really love him. C'est la vie.
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>>689771928
>>689773792
eh, basically the debates (and the current condition of the country during those debates) will decide things.
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>>689775655

>I.plying you couldn't replace "republican" with "democrat" and "right wing " with "left wing"

This is just how they like it. An illusion of a choice. Liberals are subhuman filth jumping on the bandwagon of PC culture and conservatives are misguided by those they trust. Both sides exploit poverty and ignorance and if you don't think democrats do you are a total fucking retard with the intellect of an HIV infected jizz rag.

>mfw libtard will cry because someone thinks dems are worse
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>>689773662
there was never a democratic process. the country is a constitutional republic. true democracy would be a nightmare.
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>>689776960
>if you don't think democrats do you are a total fucking retard with the intellect of an HIV infected jizz rag.
Well, I was on the fence on which way to go, but I think I'm voting for you now! Trump almost has your articulation, but you sir, are the real Trump trumper.
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>>689776037
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>>689773829
I would add that none of the candidates that were put forward by the RNC were worth a shit.

Cruz was Trump without the name-brand status, Kasich was a nobody who only won his home state, Rubio was a talking suit, Bush sucked, and everyone else you couldn't distinguish from a hole in the wall.
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>>689777600
Dubs confirm this guy is correct.
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>>689777216

>hurr durr don't like dems must be trump supporter

Some nice assumptions there, dumb fuck . I knew the uneducated libtard would be so wrapped up in my criticisms of dems that they wouldn't even notice that I said that the choice between two parties is nothing but the "illusion of a choice." I don't support anything political because it doesn't matter. Fucking idiot.
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>>689771535
Because the average voter is mildly retarded. They do not care and do not bother to be informed.
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Republicans = Idiotic racist redneck bible thumping gun totting jackasses.

Democrats = Idiotic thug-life lovin' white people hatin' feminazi bible hatin' gun totting mass murdering atheists satanic jackasses.

I hate both groups.
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>>689777844
listen dubs master, as you see when I said I was on the fence, I mean I'm just like you. On the fence. But I was merely confirming the illusion of choice that you pointed out when I made my post as well. Especially with these two. Economically they're actually going about things pretty similarly. But I'm for sure giving you my vote. Two idiots up there don't compare to your deduction skills. I just hope you're not a shitty Canadian like Ted or from Africa like Obama. You sound like a true 'Murican.

Son, I am proud.
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>>689771928
>>689777865
/thread
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>>689777431
You know, my black older neighbor compared him to Hitler and it kinda pissed me off. He said he never voted for Reagan either and I assume he voted for Obama twice. Are you black or Mexican by any chance?
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>>689774685
for fucks sake, take your tinfoil hat off and go outside so that the government drones can finally put you out of your misery, you pathetic lunatic.
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>>689778424

>shit talking only republicunts
>"dems are best to save our children"
>"oh actually they're kinda the same and I'm on the fence"

Do forgive me for smelling a bit of damage control.
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>>689778327
Then what are you?
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>>689771535
Its not quite that everyone hates both the nominees.

Hilary is hated because Bernie fans are convinced that she stole the election by sacrificing babies or something and Republicans don't like Democrats.

Trump is hated because a lot of Republican's aren't as right-wing as him, a lot of Republican politicians are afraid he's going to hurt them down ballot, and Democrats don't like Republicans.

They both have a majority of their respective parties that like them, but a minority of half their party and the entirety of the other party means that they're going to be hated by a majority of everyone.
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>>689778919
its not crazy when you actually look at whats in Obamacare and Common Core.
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>>689779005
Did you not see that was a copy pasta of the comment I replied to? Just to hightlight how interchangeable these arguments are. I'm sorry, seems this was all a misunderstanding on your part. I should have made a sarcastic label, I'll do that the next time.
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>>689779308
You really think that's the ONLY reason why Hillary is hated?
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>>689771535
The US is not a democracy

It's a rigged system
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>>689779308
Or Hillary is hated because unlike you people arent 14 and remember her time in office as a fucking disaster.
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We all want Bernie, but the election process is rigged in America
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>>689779462
>>689779773
I'm not going to go into the intricate details as to why Dems hate Trump or Reps hate Hillary. I'd nuke the thread.
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>>689779340
right, death panels in the fine print and secret communist messages hidden in the math homework. I thought I told you to take the hat off and go outside? If you are outside, don't get impatient: The fucking drones are always late now, probably because they are built in China and piloted by illegal immigrants.
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>>689779908
>We all want Bernie
Only underage faggot incapable of voting wanted him.

Kind of the reason why he lost
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>>689779433

>copypasta argument

Yeah youre right , I must be the idiot.

>still damage control
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>>689776835
>extreme right wingers supported trump
not true, the most extreme right wingers supported Ted Cruz
>the field on the republican side was weak
not true either, you had several strong candidates but they split the electorate up too much. Basically you had too many good candidates -unlike dems. If Joe Binden had run and Dems had less superdelegates (to make the conditions similar to how it was for the Repubs), Bernie would have had a much better chance. Trump supporters were just more dedicated.
>Republicans created the monster of Trump
not really true. The Republican party to the attitude of "let the chips fall where they may" and didn't try to manipulate things as bad as the Dems. People are so angry at what Obama and traditional politicians have done that they have come into the Republican party to elect someone who will supposedly change it.
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>>689780772
>too many good candidates
Like? Please I'm genuinely curious.
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>>689780772
>The Republican party to the attitude of "let the chips fall where they may"
Bullshit they flat out kept a state from voting to try and make him lose momentum right before the east coast.

The entire RNC tried to band together to fuck him out of the nomination but Trump brought in too many new voters to the party that what the RNC wanted didn't matter.
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We have partisan politics, and for each party there is a committee (DNC democrats and GOP republicans). Committees pick their nominee, or who they think should be president (aka who represents the party's interests), from their party. Trump and Hillary and the nominees, so it's assumed they'll be only the ones with a chance as most voters will vote for their party's nominee. Also, the media won't talk about anyone else now.
And the masses pick candidates based on personality and not policy. Dems are thinking "the Clinton 90's were great! Re elect Bill... I mean Hillary..." or "we need a woman in the white house." Repubs are thinking "Trump is so strong, make america great again, yeah" or "He's saying what I'm... i mean everyone else... is too scared to say!"
Basically it's a pandering contest and the elected president doesn't follow through on their promises, and america acts shocked, even though it happens every election cycle.

>>689771928
This
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>>689780756
No worries, good sir. I don't really have skin in the game, nor am I worried. Two unworthy candidates in the end, the system shall march on crushing the uneducated and minority masses both parties rely on. And on that note, I must go contribute to society, so have a wonderful evening, Mr. Idiot and suck on a huge dog nut, but just one. If you manage to go through a day without swearing you may suck on two testicles tomorrow.
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>>689774685
>>689775655
This shows the big picture problem that both party's are pandering pieces of shit and it's the only choice we have. This is why we need more than 2 parties that actually have a chance of winning so the people can choose again.
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>>689771535
Because we are stuck with a two party system with two really shitty parties
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>>689781555
Well maybe if the third party choices were better, there would be a chance.
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>implying that it matters what the general public want in any country
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You can vote dem or republican or for a third party. But on the ballot, you'll be given the option for either party's nominee or local politicians, referendum, some other initiative. You can vote for these but they never win. So you're essentially left with the options: D or R, Hillary or Trump.
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>>689771535
>If everybody hates both of the nominees for president
Trump is literally the most popular republican candidate of all time.
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>>689781432

This belongs in cringe. Fat neckbeard pony lovers are the only ones who speak so bombasticly.

Inb4 ad hominem attack
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>>689780158
Its not even hidden. With common core, you cant even opt your kid out of sex ed, because they put it in other courses that you cant not take, but thats not the only thing. Maybe you should take the time to read up on it yourself, before jumping to ad hominem and no real argument.
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>>689782782
How's his approval when not asking republicans?
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>>689782962
Asking the wrong question.

The question should be "What happens when you control for population growth?"
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>>689777844
Ok pal, we get it, you're angsty and pissed at the world
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>>689781099
Rubio for the "young, inclusive party" vote.
Bush for the progressive republican vote
Ted Cruz for the constitutional conservative vote
Rand Paul for the libertarian vote.
etc.

They were for the most part, on the same level as any of the dem candidates in abilities of being a politician (not talking about policy here). They just couldn't match Trumps bombastic style, charisma, ability to use media to their advantage. The majority of Repubs didn't like Trump but that majority couldn't agree on an opposition.

>>689781176
I don't disagree with you but you got to remember that they are looking at the majority of registered republican voters who don't like Trump. My point was that the Republicans have set their system up as a much more "let the chips fall" than the Democrats have. Both Trump and his detractors in the RNC have used the system of who gets to be the nominee in the Republican party to their advantage.
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>>689782782
This needs to be as a per captia thing. The population is high, so this is misleading data.
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>>689783086
Thanks friendo
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>>689782962
What the fuck does that have to do with anything? OP claimed he wasn't popular yet he had more votes than any other candidate in the republican parties history.

You would be hard pressed to find any candidate that didn't have a large amount of people who hated him, that does not mean they aren't popular.
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>>689783371
Little Marco was such a fucking pussy.
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>>689776960
Yeah this is why no one likes republicans, right here.

Total fucking assholes.
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>>689783525

Nice ad hominem, numb nuts.
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>>689783371
>the majority of registered republican voters who don't like Trump
Yet the republican party had nearly double the amount of votes than it had last election with the lions share going to Trump.
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>>689783371
OK, I definitely see your point here.

Everyone had Rubio v Bush leading into it, so I can see what you're getting at. Rubio just got exposed during debates and Bush kinda just let Trump beat on him for a while without hitting back at all.

I feel like Rand Paul occupies the same place as Bernie Sanders. They're not really part of the party but they associate with the party because they line up more with them and can't really go 3rd party if they want any shot at being elected.

Cruz would have been good for that slot, but he kinda got dragged into the same arena as Trump and lost because he didn't have the name recognition that Trump has.
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>>689783371
>majority of registered republican voters who don't like Trump
Zodiac Killer was unquestionably the least liked candidate going into the election. The amount of people he put out of work because of the shutdown is the reason why even Kasch beat him on the east coast.
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>>689783994
but would that have happened if Kasich had been in the mix between Trump and Cruz?
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>>689785106
hadn't*
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>>689771535
Name recognition. Americans are comfortable with people they know--even if they don't like them. Obama was an anomaly. Hardly ever happens. Newfags don't usually become President over here.
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It's the USA, their political system has been hideously broken since its inception. None of the people in political positions do anything about it, because they want to abuse it for themselves more than they want to stop their opponents from abusing it. None of the people without political positions do anything about it because they don't give a flying fuck so long as they get their basic pandering (see: gun rights, gay rights, der 'conermy, taxes).
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>>689785424
People thought we needed "change" after bush, that change came in the form of color. Now we had "change", and people think we need "progressivism" which will come in the form of gender.
>moral of the story people are fucking stupid
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Trump only won because so many candidates were running. Had the field narrowed earlier he would have been defeated. He won the majority of the primary in very few states, but was able to win anyway. His xenophobic, racist rants riled up his largely uneducated base. That only accounts for about 40% of republicans. The other 60% were split between Cruz, Rubio, Carson, etc. Had it been a two man race early on the 60% would have won.
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>>689771535

Many people don't hate Trump; Hillary has a vagina and is a corrupt whore.

There. That's all you need to know, really.
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>>689785865
The opposite you moron. Its harder to get a majority with more candidates.
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>>689783994
If by lion's share you mean 46% against only Cruz/Rubio/Kasich and while also counting the 9 primaries that Trump was effectively running unopposed.
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>>689778712
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What has Hillary done in office?
>Lied about our soldiers dying
>selling uranium to russia with the money going to her bank account
>email fiasco
>Benghazi

What has Donald Trump done so far in office:
>Nothing yet


Donald trump is the clear choice here from those above unbiased facts alone.
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>>689778327
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>>689771535
because they are part of the ruling class.... sanders was a viable alt but closed primaries prevent the oligarchy from genuinely being threatened , America hasn't existed for decades, its just an idea that the ruling class whore out to keep people quiet.
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>>689786430
Hitler
>ordered the deaths of jews

Trump
>said words

Yep same guy.
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>>689786430
If you aren't a filthy illegal immigrant you have nothing to fear.
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>>689786430
Well they're just muslims.
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>>689773829
Better don't choke on trump's cock
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>>689786707
Trump did nothing wrong.
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>>689786430
Hitler did nothing wrong so I don't get what you are trying to say the problem is.
Fuck off back to your tumblr hugbox
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>>689779773
She was a very good Secretary of State.

She spent most of her time putting our alliances back together after the disastrous bush/Cheney reign of error.

Now, Trumpler wants to ditch our allies in favor of Putin.
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>>689773829
It's weird that you're impressed by what you can have if you inherit millions.
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>>689786618
Sanders was too big a pussy to call Hillary out on her corruption and lawbreaking and contented himself to steal hundreds oif millions from retards welfare check.

But hey thanks for giving him the 130 million dollars he spent on the vacation to rome.
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Pick the lesser of two evils.

The system is fucked.
Trump will bring out jaded voters who stopped voting over the years because of said system.
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>>689786430
here is your (you):
>Trump = Hitler
So when exactly did Trump become a socialist that wants to take everyone's guns?
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>>689786430
except hitler was hailed as Time magazine's man of the year for bringing germany out of the depression. He was a great administrator and stopped bankers from charging interest on loans (just a flat rate instead). Without the war hitler would've turned germany into the world superpower.
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>>689778327
This. Both are shit.
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>>689787089
trump doesnt want anything in particular , he just thinks he should be president , he has no solid positions on anything, i just hope that the democrats have the balls to disrupt him like the republicans resisted obama.....fuck sake, this isnt the way its supposed to be
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>>689787253
As Trumps campaign manager said. 90% of his work was done by SOROS and Clintion's paid protests.

All the flag burning illegals and numales they paid to protest his rallies won him the election without him spending a dime.
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>>689779254
a conscientious objector
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>>689787089
>She was a very good Secretary of State.
no, she actually wasn't.
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>>689787240
i blame the closed primaries, anytime it was open to new voters and independent sanders won in a landslide.....the Clintons had this stitched up years in advance.

now we have two candidates who want to be president for reasons of ego even though most people genuinely dislike both of them....
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>>689771535
cause the other nominees were considered more shit than them by most people
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>>689771535
One is a manipulative piece of shit that is trying to get into office.

The other will make america great again.
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>>689780733
Wrong, nimrod.

He actually got the activist Socialist vote, which trends to more college educated , intellectual and Left revolutionary people.

Damn smart electorate.

Guess who has the least intelligent??
Trumpler, of course.
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>>689787895
>Considering Liberal Art Degrees as college educated.
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>>689782858
Fuck off, turd muncher.
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>>689780733
The reason he lost is because America is full of a bunch of inbred hillbilly's who'd rather see a corrupt politician or an orangutan become president

and maybe some rigged votes, haven't seen any evidence yet tho
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>>689787457
Same is true of hillary. That's op's point, I believe. We have somehow chosen the 2 most hatable people and now we're going to bet we hate each other more than we hate them. You really can't find anyone else with this level of ugly public history to oppose.
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>>689771535
On the democrat side, they only had two viable candidates. One of them had the word "socialist" in his label. The other, for better and for worse, is an experienced politician. Even politically forward thinking dems are uncomfortable with the word socialist so they chose the other candidate.

On the republican side, the party establishment became so far right wing and corrupt that the people are taking a chance with an outsider with a well known name.

...That's the most politically neutral explanation I can come up with anyway.
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>>689786430
Nigger/Muslim/Mexican detected. Go back to your Bernie thread on Reddit you fucking welfare rat.
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>>689787306
this
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>>689787585
Yeah,I agree. The only thing those stunts did was piss off regular Americans. The Dems. won't say anything but Trump did.


The system clearly doesn't want Trump in office. Which is the only reason I want him in.
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>>689786910
I never even said I supported him. Its simply the facts. The primaries were rigged in Hillary's favor from the start thanks to her donors, the fact that her husband was president already, and she was secretary of state, and some other stuff that pretty put her as the winner without her actually having to do anything. Trump is an outsider to the system, a system that was completely against him and his opponents threw millions in ads against him, which he used in has favor, and basically he memed his way to the nomination, and maybe even the Presidency by effectively labeling his adversaries and setting the rules of engagement so that he wins before it even begins. The fact that he's done so well with such long odds cannot be ignored.
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>>689771535
I would love to see them tag team her hot holes God i wana eat her pussy like a mad lesbo on crack.
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>>689787306
Yea if he didn't turn autistic trying to perfect the aryan race. Fucking retard.

>yfw You realize Trump is having a hard time winning the people over because of Hitlers tantrum.
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>>689771535
Trump was running against a crazy bible dude, some real assholes, and a weird squinty black guy. Hillary was running against Stalin. This was the best we had.
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>>689788449
Thank you, 4chan; before I met you, I never would have believed people this ignorant were real. Trump would have been a huge surprise.
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>>689787612
So you're not going to vote? Okay. Kindly fuck off please.
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>>689787895
>He actually got the activist Socialist vote, which trends to more college educated , intellectual and Left revolutionary people.
"Sander's constituency is most intelligent" <pic related>
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>>689788346
i wish you good luck in the coming years of turmoil, i hope we all come out of this not in desperate poverty, chains or having been exploded
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>>689787183
Basically this Trump is a pretty weird guy also Trump The Game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46ZLAT7BY_s
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>>689788379
Reasonable enough. Trump won the nomination off the back of people being pissed at the media bias who did nothing but try and lambast him and the tons of videos of violent protesters and illegal immigrant flag burners.

>>689788742
HIllary had all of that and more 8 years ago when she ran and got her shit slapped by Obama. And if you think politics were any less corrupt back then you are naive as hell.
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>>689786707
Hitler said and wrote violent antisemitic for years before he actually carried them out.

So you could've made the same post about AH prior to Hindenburg's death.

Know them by their words.
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Trump has:

>most Boomers in his pocket

>amazingly enough, most Gen X in his pocket (most of the 90's liberal Gen X got their faces spit in over the recent years by crack-addled groups like SJWs and BLM, who basically conveyed in no uncertain terms that even straight white people who consider themselves allies should feel like shitty people regardless)

>enough Millennial neo-cons (AKA people that everyone claimed would never exist) are now in his pocket


This is what happens after 6 to 8 years of hyper-Leftist faggotry and fingerwagging in the US. They should have throttled the fuck back and they didn't. Now everything they are stumbling around to try is too little too late. Their magical "San Angeles" utopia where evil white people are the downtrodden minority and black transsexuals get elected President may yet happen at some point in the far flung future, but it sure as hell isn't happening in our lifetimes. The real tragedy is the Progressives almost had. THEY ALMOST HAD IT. Then they got belligerent, sloppy, greedy. Oh fuggin well.
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>>689771535
I blame the MSM. They assassinated the character of two of the best picks we could have probably had for conservative candidates years ago (Petraeus and McChrystal). Hope they enjoy getting Trump'd.
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>>689788836
Ignorant how?
Did Trump kill 6 million Jews? Nope. But he made a lot of fucking money.
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>>689788916
Kill it with fire
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>>689771535
Dear retard,
No nominee has ever not had a bad wrap, inb4 jfk... He was assassinated.

-reality
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>>689789063
I sorta wanna play kek
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>>689788831
and Kasich. You forgot about Kasich.
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>>689787018
Hitler was a racist monster who wanted anyone killed who got in his way.

If you truly think AH "did nothing wrong ", then you are just like your fureher.

A fucking nazi.

You piece of shit.
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>>689789052
I never said it was less corrupt back then, but she was also up against a black man, so there was almost no way you could beat that, even if you had superior policy and speaking skills across the board. There's just no way you'd be able to get black communities or liberals on board at all.
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>>689789058
And what are Trump's words?

>"If you're in Murrica illegally, we are kicking you the fuck out"

I really don't see this logic as cruel, unusual, or unreasonable.
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>first women president after first black president
Does anyone else find this really weird?
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>>689789501
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>>689789260
Yeah cause he didn't wanna commit a false flag.
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>Norwegian
>be in the USA for 5 months
>majority Bernie people
>some Trump
>not one person I talked politics to even considered Clinton. Some of them said they don't know anyone who'd vote for her
Land of the free
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@689789746
There's nothing wrong with having a woman president what the fuck. Fuck off you fucking newfag kek. Get off 4chan. Summer is here
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>>689781656
Are you not feeling the Johnson deep inside you?
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I'm voting for Bill Clinton basically. If she fucks up, he will be there to take over. At least I can sleep at night. He wasn't that bad considering what came after him.
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>>689789746
Since it's highly likely it won't happen, not really.
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>>689789746
>Implying theres any chance Hillary will win
She barely beat a shriveled old socialist, not to mention shit like the Orlando shooting only makes Trump stronger.

The only way Trump wasn't getting the win is if the RNC cucked him out of the nomination and gave it to Jeb.
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>>689789727
I hope you're not being sarcastic.
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>>689790023
The who? Oh the dude from Omegle.
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>>689773792
Just curious, what is this apocalyptic scenario you expect from Hillary being elected?
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>>689790166
Goddamn ur dumb, son. Get out of the bubble. Hillary is going to crush him--because math.
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>>689790166
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>>689790017
>@689789746
>newfag
>summer
I am responding to b8, aren't I...
eh, 2/8.
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>>689790166
Romney by a landslide! You were one of those morons. I can tell.
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>>689787279
Hitler was not a Socialist, idiot.
He loathed Marxists.

The "people power " nazis were the SA, and heavies like Rohm and Strasser.

After AH tooknpower, he no longer needed the brownshirts, so he killed of the SA leaders, then fed the SA into the Wehrmacht.

Thus ended the quasi "socialist" element.
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>>689790270
>You have to go back.png
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>>689773829
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGs34q9zpCI

"If a state is vast but people are belligerent, disaster will arrive without fail." - Natori Masazumi
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>>689790594
Karl rove's face - oh man was it priceless
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>>689790327
Gary Johnson probably won't win, it's the nature of 3rd parties.
But this shit-show of an election will definitely push more voters towards being libertarians, which I think is a reasonable compromise between the right and left.
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>>689790793
kek
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>>689790270
Noop. Get them the fuck outta here. It's bad enough the undercut the citizenry by offering to do loads of jobs for dirt wages (which don't translate to dirt earnings when they hop back over to Meh-heeco, as soon as they hop the border they're rich as fuck,) but now they are waving Taco flags while burning US flags, on US soil. Fuck em. Cast them all the fuck out.
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>>689787183
It's very impressive if you turn it into billions.
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>>689773829
Most insightful political comment I've seen on 4chan in years.
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>>689777600
Kasich was a good candidate but got in way too late. I used to live in Ohio, he is a good governor, but ohio gets little attention on a national scale.
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>>689773914
shit niggah, I always watch the debates, even out of curiosity
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>>689790947
I'm going to try to find an article for you. http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/05/11/waitillegal-immigrants-get-1200-more-in-welfare-benefits-than-american-families-n2161305
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>>689790033
>gave the go for tons of bombings that were never televised (Iraq War style,) that basdically paved the way for the rise of Osama Bin Laden, AQ, and the preamble to 9/11

>de-regulated the banks, which is why this country is STILL in dire fucking straights economically

You flowery "Clinton Era So Awesome" fuckers never cease to amaze me. He was the one that got the fucking dominoes falling in the first place. I guess you were too busy watching Seinfeld and E-Trading your bubble stocks to notice what was actually going on in the world.
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>>689790751
>Trumps over he has no chance of winning says increasingly nervous man for the 7th time
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>>689787306
You don't understand nazism very well.

War and "master race" ideology were the basis of the nazi state.

The supposed need for lebensraum and the insistence on enslaving (or killing) "inferior races"
were the actions needed for nazism to expand.

The Germans also looted Europe of its wealth and culture in order to further finance war.

There is no peaceful alternative nazism.
That's just a neo-nazi propaganda whitewash.
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>>689791025
Do you know how capitalism works?
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>>689791025
It's not really.
There comes a critical mass point of money where you can afford to pay clever enough people enough money to have them multiply your money for you.
As long as you keep paying them its in their interests to keep you rich.
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>>689791688
And everyone acts like the economy was so great because of Bill Clinton. It wasn't Bill Clinton. It was the fucking dot-com bubble. Microsoft and shit. During Bill Clinton's presidency, Bill Gates net worth hit almost $100 billion.
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>>689790666
>not socialist
what is national socialism then?
It still was socialism, it's what got him to power...
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>>689791915
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>>689791678

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Can any Ameritards explain to me why you worship your political candidates like gods?

Hillary, Bernie, and Trump are mere humans, so why do you all go insane fighting about it?

There are far too many checks and balances for them to carry out their plans unhindered. At best you get small steps in whatever direction.
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>>689787721
Prove it.

I just posted her task in reassembling our alliances.
Which took most of her time as Secretary.
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>>689782782
>15 millions
>millions
leg1t
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President with balls vs emo cunt
Businessman vs emo cunt
Proud American vs emo cunt

No brainer
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>>689771535
everybody wants trump, but only so many are willing to admit it for fear of being called racist/ (x)phobic. If I announced at work that I liked Trump it would be the end of my career in human resources
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>>689787875
America is great.

Who is our challenger?

Who can match us?
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>>689792125
Can any Germans explain to me why you allow your leader to fuck you in the ass?
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>>689774491
Well Trump isn't a cunt.
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>>689792350
China, since they now secretly have nuclear capability.
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>>689773829
She's the most qualified. And you're just gonna have to deal with it.
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because they're rappers
and they want their money
hey oh
hey hey oh
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>>689792119
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBxFVgRBqqc
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>>689791833
>can't see the forest for all the trees
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>>689775655
No original rebuke. Copypasta. =Democrat
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>>689788305
You must be an ignorant retard with no class or intelligence.

The classic liberal arts are fundamental Western culture.

Are you a reactionary utilitarian?
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>>689774685
i agree 100% sir where can i sign up to your news letter trump2016
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>>689792802
>The classic liberal arts are fundamental Western culture.
Tell him brother, feel the Burne.

We don't need jobs!
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>>689773662
hillary definitely cheated, but people actually support trump.
only 9%.. but still... he has real support.
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>>689786430
hey if hitler didnt kill those jews he would have been remembered as a great leader
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>>689788449
I am

White white white white white white white white
White white white white white white white white
HA ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

You trump redneck shitfucker.
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>>689787306
>Time magazine's man of the year
this is for people who's made a big impact in the world that year. it's not necessarily honorary. if you somehow managed to unleash 500 billion giant mutant badgers with rabies upon the world, you'd probably become time magazine's man of the year for causing such massive damage.
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>>689792434
idk, i'm not german. what does that have to do with my question?
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>>689788831
Senator Sanders is not a stalinst, you ignorant bird brain.

Please post any stalinist policies that you delusionally attribute to Sanders.
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>>689786430
ARE U KIDDING ME?!!?
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>>689793758
But he just gave the reasons...
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>>689788449
i love how trump thumpers are always angry when people call them and trump racist, but instantly resort to racism the second they stop being able to make an argument.

you're the most bipolar group in history.
>"we're not racist you fucking jew nigger"
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>>689793267
"American must now get very tough, very smart and very vigilant. We cannot admit people into our country without extraordinary screening."
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>>689771535
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>>689793906
Well sorry for the n-word but most blacks don't like Trump. Idk why.
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>>689793758
#Never
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>>689778327
>implying the kkk is a threat to anyone these days
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>>689783443
Of course he's popular among republicans. He says everything they want to hear, acts how they want him to act.
How popular is he among everyone? Independents, centrists, people who don't subscribe to everything coming out of his mouth? Jill Stein is popular among green party voters. Of course she is, right? But she isn't popular to the rest of the nation.
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>>689794006
>implying he's wrong.
Should we let fucking 10 and 11 year olds play COD? Or little kids play GTA V? Fuck no.

People that are already unstable playing these games will just use the game as an excuse to do psycho shit.
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>>689793758
he gave like 6 reasons...(or 12, depending on how you prefer counting them).
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>>689794229
mom? i told you never to come here! this isn't for moms.
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>>689788916
Wow, you associate an entire political movement with one pic of one person??

Your propaganda skills are lacking.

Check out video footage of a Sanders rally, then look at a trumpler rally.

Also: Sanders drew record crowds in California, but still lost the primary.

Trumpler held a rally in Richmond Virginia, and barely drew 2000 people in an arena that holds 12K.

Amazing how corrupt the USA is.
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The votes are rigged.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seezeYXdWO8
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>>689794498
I'm 24 and a male. Not a mom dude.
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>>689787895
>college educated
you mean college aged?
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>>689794229
science says he's flat out wrong. violent video games can even help treating ptsd.
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>>689792802
leave this place child
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>>689789063
Wrong on almost every point.

Younger voters loathe trumpler.

What poll are you citing?
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>>689774640
damn now i want a jagerbomb... fuck just give me jager lol
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>>689794600
you're not fooling me again, mom. can't i have any place for myself? you always complain about my video games, saying they're not suitable. why won't you leave me alone!?? if you don't stop, i'm telling dad.
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Here's the deal as of now. We have 2 private organizations pretending to be interested in our wellbeing. They do this every few years because that's their job - getting elected. No one's job is to govern. No one's job is to legislate with reason and sanity. No one's job is to bring factuality and practicality to the public issues we face.

We all know this. Yet we all fear the other side just enough to support what we see as being the less sinister, less corrupt, less shameless option to avert the disaster that is the alternative.

They know it too. This cycle, they're barely pretending to care. They are comfortable with the assumption that no one can compete with them for air time. No one is going to take their own candidate's fact check after a debate seriously because come on - the other one, holy shit! No one expects real answers to what their plans for us involve.

So is it too late to start a campaign for No One 2016?
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>>689771535
>No one likes Trump
Whew
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>>689771535
A pitfall of democracy. First, almost all the other candidates for the primaries either were too unlikable, or even worse. Then they both gained popularity mostly from dislike of the other one. Now here we are, and the only hope is a third party.
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>>689774904
>How, because he was paid to go their wedding
he's a billionaire, and yet he lets himself be bought that easily. and trumpaloompas claim that he can't be bought, yet he's even willing to sell out to his rivals for pocket change.
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>>689774904
>>689775280
i think the part about trump donating money to hillary's campaign
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>>689794690
Can it really? Citation needed
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>>689795026
Those people are both literally and figuratively the fat of the American population.
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Our government and media is pushing Hillary who no one likes and is shot talking Trump.
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>>689795026
Trump's lack of consistent, realistic, fact-based policy ideas mean that you are basically voting for No One anyway. Let's tell them we have noticed.
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>>689794955
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>>689795331
In 2008
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>>689795331
Your point?
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>>689789727
Racist against anyone "not American " enough to satisfy his redneck supporters.

Trumpler attacks his opponents as if they are aliens.

Trumpler is a birther toward Obama.
He dangles the Mexican bait for his followers.
Calls the Orlando murderer an afghan, even though he was born in Queens, just like trumpler.

Calls the Indiana-born judge in his fraud case a mexican in a pejorative way.

How much more do you need?
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>>689795509
>Trump's lack of consistent, realistic, fact-based policy ideas
Whats with foreigners who are incapable of doing a simple google search?
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/tax-reform
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half the people hate one, the other half hates the other.
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>>689795682
>Mexican and Musilm are races
You have to go back
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>>689795682
You have to go back
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>>689795682
I want to see obama go after his tax returns for 18 months so bad
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>>689795342
just google "video games +ptsd" or something, shouldn't be too hard to find.
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>>689792002
Sonny, go back and actually READ my post.

Or was it too complicated for you?
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>>689795946
Trump already submitted all of his finances 3 months ago you retard and confirmed them with an IRS audit.
Squeaky clean.
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>>689796052
Nope sorry. You have to go back.
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Because many liberals and all moderates and conservatives are completely retarded
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>>689795331

I can see him doing that to help her beat Bernie.

Because Trump feared going into a primary with Bernie whereas if Hillary got the nod then there was a solid chance Bernie would run 3rd party and split the dem vote giving trump a lock in.
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>>689796120
Has he realesed them to the public like he has promised yet?
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>>689795774
This is gibberish. He can hire someone to write out problems we actually have - so what? A buzzword salad is not a meal, and this is not policy.
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>>689796328
Nigger literally google
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>>689796328
It's none of our business.
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>>689771535
Because our votes don't always actually count, and when they do it barely helps. And remember, we're a country of dumbasses that are all hungry for money, nothing that anyone says will ever change this fact and these people are only in it for the money
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>>689796355
>He has no policies
>Those don't count
YOU
HAVE
TO
GO
BACK
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>>689796139
I'm not going to do your googling for you, sperglord. Find it for yourself or just stick your head in the sand and pretend that "rock music and violent video games are the reason murders happen", I honestly don't give a flying fuck. You can sit and play old Beatles albums backwards claiming there's hidden satanic messages for all I care.
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>>689792490
China is trying, but their economic bubble has burst, plus the Chinese have never been ones to push hard power globally.
They prefer tribute and acknowledgement of their superiority.

The USA is the only global superpower.
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>>689771535
Trump was absurdly popular.

Sanders and Hillary had record lows for voter turnout.
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>>689796120
I don't care. I am making fun of the witch hunt he performed over obama's birth certificate.
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>>689796549
I never said that, you moron. I said that people will use them AS AN EXCUSE for people having mental illness. l2context
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>>689796267
So he lies and plays dirty just to trick people into voting for him. Sounds like a good, honest president that surely wants what's best for the people.
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>>689794652
No, want-wit, college educated.

Do you have problems with semantics, perhaps?
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>>689796267
>Because Trump feared going into a primary with Bernie
Nice headcanon.

He said beating Hillary would be easier than beating Sanders.
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>>689796485
You have to learn english like the rest of us.
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>>689794814
Hey, nimrod, why don't you try for yourself???

Ignorant windbag.
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>>689789576
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>>689796819
community college doesn't count
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>>689791885
except he did all of this before a single person was put in a camp or a single shot fired in war
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>>689796898
Sorry charlie I was born here
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>>689780733

>Only lazy millenial faggots who can't be bothered to vote wanted him
>Kind of the reason why he lost

FTFY
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>>689796636
Popular with people who support trumpler in a Republican primary.
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>>689771535
Because this is the best America can do.
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>>689771535
It's called the two party system. Let's break this shit down once and for all..

On average only around 30% of the population actually votes, and of that 30% maybe 1/3 are Democrats, 1/3 are Republicans and the final and most important 1/3 are undecided voters.

2/3 of the active voter base of this country are highly partisan and when push comes to shove they will back up their party nominee.

Also, most of the people you hear talking about how bad either candidate is are most likely not going to even vote in the general election. So take that with a grain of sand.

What it comes down to at the end of the day is securing as much of the 1/3rd undecided voter base in swing states. This is why if you live in a state like California you don't see any attack ads or telephone/door-to-door voting solicitors. California is a blue state and it is 99.99% likely that the electoral votes for the state will go to the democrats. Iowa is a different story, they harass you and blast you with ads and nonstop bullshit in an attempt to rally as many voters to the polls because only in these states do the votes of average citizens actually count for anything.

Blah blah blah it's all a bunch of bullshit anyways and this is why so few people vote because they either incorrectly think it's rigged OR they correctly think that their votes don't count.. at least so long as you live in 43 of the uncontested states.

Here's a tip: If you don't live in Ohio, Colorado, Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire, Virginia, or Florida then don't even bother voting for POTUS. Instead you ought to focus on your state, county and local city politics where, if you live in California, your vote actually counts.

Fun fact: California is the most democratic of all 50 States. The citizens here have the power to directly elect their Senators and Congressmen AND they can put any initiative on the ballot with a successful petition.
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>>689796559
this
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>>689797240
after breast implants
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>>689792125
Still need a proper answer to this. You're all too busy fighting over who's god is the one true god.
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>>689791915
But still...he did only start with a few mil. If what you are saying is true than every millionaire would just become a billionaire - but they don't do they?
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>>689797461
Sorry hes not popular with people who can't vote.

Shame your kind don't matter, have fun back in Mexico next year.
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>>689771535

Why Trump? Because the RNC and their candidates really buttfucked themselves. They all had ample opportunity to attack Trump because "they wanted his votes when he eventually left the race."

But they greatly underestimated how retarded their base was, so Trump won.

No sweat, tho. If (when?) Trump loses, the RNC is guaranteed to make further gains during the 2018 midterms and, after 12 years of Dem rule, will be able to waltz into the WH in 2020. Hopefully, having learned their lesson.
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>>689797461
And Shillary and Burnout weren't popular with anyone.
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>>689792125
>>689797574
We don't worship them. Answered.
We don't go insane. We do fight - so does everybody in every country about their leadership - except where they don't get to pick their leaders. Answered - now fuck off.
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>>689797484
>muricans think they're free
>two party system
>mfw it's just slightly better than a one party system
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>>689797388
Then why didn't you learn what english words mean? Identifying a problem is not solving it. Stating that it would be better if we didn't have that problem doesn't make it go away.
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>>689791833
>Nate "the numbers don't lie" Silver

>>689788339
>and maybe some rigged votes, haven't seen any evidence yet tho
the New York voter roll purges affected likely Sanders voters over likely Clinton voters by something like 20:1
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>>689797484

>Instead you ought to focus on your state, county and local city politics where, if you live in California, your vote actually counts.

Accurate.
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>>689797484
Which is why we need No One in 2016.
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>>689792125
only a fool believes in false gods
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republicans are just secretly racial elitists and hate anybody who isnt white, while pretending to be the good giys fighting for an equal america by calling democrats evil brainwashing propagandists.
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>>689771535
>689778327
you guys are forgetting about the biggest meme party of them all
LOLbertarians are just autistic liberals
t. American Nationalist
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>>689797484
>if you live in California, your vote actually counts
Way to bring up the only state where illegals can actually vote.
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>>689798009
the fuck is up with Michigan?
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>>689797574
Most Americans don't.
Apathy is why someone like trump can make it as far as he has.
There's always going to be party zealots, and they do shit that gets attention.
Most people can't be bothered to go see a campaign speech. The one's that can be bothered are usually the zealots, hence their getting more air time and the perception that so many Americans really give a shit.
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>>689773829
yeah he worked hard. that doesnt mean he's not a piece of shit with no real stances

BUILD WALL, give me a break
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>>689798403
Water crisis so people were pissed.
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>>689786430
to be fair Trump is far more a Mussolini than a Hitler.
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America the home of the slaves
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>>689798900
If we had a time machine we would happily go back and keep all the niggers out of our country.
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