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What does/b/ think of Overwatch?
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Overdesigned.
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>>689631397
Junkrat is godly once you mater the bounces of the grenades and the traps.

Also big fan of Pharah. Widowmaker just doesn't feel right. Hitboxes are outrageous though.
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>>689631397
*Overhyped
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Any game where I feel every fucking character is OP when they kill me is designed pretty well. When everything is over powered, nothing is.
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>>689631397
Having more fun than I thought. Wish we'd get some more game modes, including straight up team deathmatch.
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Trying too hard.
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Playing right now, fun shit
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>>689631644
I dont think his primary fire should explode early if it hits sombody, I think that just encourages spam fire into a crowd knowing it will explode when it hits them.
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>>689631751
agreed
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>>689631581
Would you please explain why you feel it is overdesigned ? I generally am wondering what makes you feel that way as I have a feeling like that as well.
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>>689631891
I like the spam fire. You don't win by not shooting. Junkrat was made for spamming.
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>>689631891
That would make him considerably worse if he gets caught out or flanked. His role is to spam chokepoints and objectives.
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>>689631751
I'd want more objective based game modes like ctf or domination since that's what blizzard wants the game to be all about
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fun as fuck, real shitty ults on some heroes though

auto aim on soldier 76... seriously? its the shittiest fucking ult ever, requires no skill and impossible to dodge.
mcrees ult is also pretty bs but at least you have time to dodge it and it requires some timing.

also lucio is either op, or the other supports need to be buffed.

widowmaker deals too much damage on bodyshots.
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Holy shit, I'm supposed no one has posted overwatch porn yet
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>>689631698
>10 million players a few weeks after release
>one of the most well designed multiplayer games ever

how the fuck is it overhyped? stop being such an edgy 14 year old hipster, you're not cool for disliking popular things.
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Great game. Flocked with kids who wants to play Reaper EXCLUSIVELY. Can't wait for ranked.
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baby's first arena shooter.

doom 4 mods are where the cool kids play

and still quake online

and tribes 2 sometimes
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>>689633014
Snapmap is shit sadly
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Getting tired of respawn/travel times.
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>>689631397
It's too cartoony
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>>689632848
reaper is so fucking edgy its cringy. its like every 12 year old's wet dream ever. going 'DIE DIE DIE' when he does his ult? it's like something straight out of 11 year old me's homemade comic books.
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>>689633232
buttheyllfixit.png

can't happen fast enough
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>>689631397
Worse battleborn that looks better
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>>689633014
>i only play obscure games because im not a normie
>inb4 doom/quake is not obscure
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>>689633295
I think the art style is awesome
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>>689633261
respawn times are fast. you ever played tf2? its like fucking 25 seconds
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>>689632706
And you aren't cool for liking
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>>689632706
its not that good lil jimmy.
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>>689633581
that would be unbearable
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>>689633501
>doom
>obscure
>one of the most popular shooters in the mid 90s
>recent release has critical acclaim
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>>689633295
isn't that the point?
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>>689631397
Overhype, what the fuck else do you think?
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Overwatch looks good
Plays good
Feels good
but not really anything new and brilliant
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>>689633593
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>>689632383
how is it overdesigned.. theres literally one objective
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I'm enjoying it but it needs some major balancing. Mei is the most enraging fucking hero to play against and makes the game not fun. Other than that I like it.
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>>689633232
snap map wasnt meant to be good. just a selling point and easy way to entice the WAD community (but way too late)
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>>689633914
?
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>>689632706
This ,people are really salty the game is good and people are actually buying it, myself included >Hur durr you don`thave taste for games
Its a good game that`s it .
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>>689633933
More like playing with one on your team.
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>>689633845
This. Also despite some of them being literal walking tropes, the characters are genuinely enjoyable. But nothing especially original about it.
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>>689634101
I think it can go both ways, honestly. A good Mei on the enemy team is infuriating and a bad Mei on your team is equally infuriating.
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>>689632706
>well designed
Based on?
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>>689634098
One, you're using tilde's, not apostrophes.
Two, not everyone has to like everything. I played the beta myself, thought it was incredibly shallow for a game and it was meh for fun, so I'm passing it up. People who think it's impossible for anyone to not like the games they like are one of the cancers of gaming.
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>>689632477

>impossible to dodge
line of sight
>lucio is op
mercy is just as good if not better - sym is also broken as fuck and almost 100 games with her I've maintained a 70% w/l.

>widowmaker damage
what is an patch note
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>Widowmaker needed more of a nerf
>McCree should be removed from the game
>Reaper needs less health, less healing, or no smoke thing
>Zenyatta needs more health
>Dva needs to move while shooting
>Genjis are assholes
>Mei is Bae
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>>689633501
this guy preordered from gamestop
>in person
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>>689632477
Widowmaker just got nerfed on body shots today
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>>689634312
Tildes***
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I've yet to see any good arguement for choosing this over TF2
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Well i only played the beta but i loved it any richfag mind gifting me it. The tag is liqamadiq#1315
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>>689634375
If anyone needs a nerf it's mei. Or you know you could git gud.
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>>689634288
how is it not? honestly cunts like you are never happy no matter what
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>>689633845
its like your basic top down moba but you play as one character at a time
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>>689634375
>Mei is bae
She's the cutest, that's for sure.
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>>689631397
i like team fortress 3
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>>689634375
Mei is Bae!!
McCree and Widow just got a nerf in this patch
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>>689634535
Cunts like you are never happy to see a counter point to theirs.
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>>689634380
i bought the game online after it was released

what the fuck does your comment mean anyway?
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>>689634456
TF2 is F2P and full of children
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>>689634521
Thanks for reminding me.

>Mei needs less heath too
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Yeah I think Overwatch is pretty good
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>>689631397
Fucking re-skinned TF2
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>>689631397
Honestly I think it's overrated. I played it on the free weekend and it's looked just like team fortress but paid and with waifus.
I would appreciate if someone told me the differences between the two
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>>689635010
Heheheheh
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>>689634600
who the fuck draws/enjoys these types of hentai?

SUPER exaggerated features, like enormous tits, do people actually enjoy that? it takes away every ounce of 'realism' that might make hentai enjoyable
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>>689634693
Widow needed more of a nerf and McCree needs to not exist anymore. He was a cute idea, but the game will be better off without him.
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>>689634456
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>>689635073
Autism is on the rise m8.
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>>689635066
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>>689635201
>having trouble with mcree
git gud, you're probably the type of noob who thinks bastion is op and looses entire games to it
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>>689635029
except for all the parts that aren't, and all the parts that are better.

Blizzard did what Blizzard has always done, take some existing game and make it 100 times better.
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>>689635029

Don't be an ass-tard.

Just because there are payload and capture maps it does not automatically make it a "re-skin". The game has Unreal Tournament elements to it, as well as many other existing games like Mobas.

There's a reason Overwatch has succeeded the way it has in such a short amount of time, and it's definitely not attributed to its likeness to tf2. Sandbag harder.
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>>689631397
>great characters
that we know nothing about
even League gives a short bio on a character, Overwatch gives nothing
>6/10 wasted potential
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>>689633386
Exactly. Feels bad to be a Mercy on a team with 3 reapers and 2 Hanzos. which literally happened the other day...
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>>689635211
>doesn't know they admitted to copy tf2 and taking it what they consider "further"
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>>689635643
forgot to mention
>microtransactions
but it's apparently ok because Blizzard
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I like the diverse range of heroes Overwatch lets you choose from, and the fact that every time you play as a hero you can choose a different path in their skill tree
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>>689635073

>realism
>hentai
>let's cum at the same time brother
>wow you're hard already even though you just came
>this time I will use my feet and tell you I love you after just meeting you after our parents were separated at our birth
>I'm a virgin you're my first uhuu
>splash of cum bigger than hiroshima

You fucking idiot.
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>>689635487
There is no counter to McCree. He is the ganking class, that is all he is good for.

If you get the drop on him, or find him at range he is dead. But if some dipshit runs around a corner and fucking flashbangs. you are dead no matter what.
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>>689635073
>realism
You lost me there.
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>>689635739
>implying overwatch isn't far more better and enjoyable than the f2p cosmetic tdm shitfest that is tf2

just because tf2 was the original doesn't mean it's better.
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>>689633261

The respawn times are just 10 seconds, suck it up and learn to not die every minute. Right about the travel times though but that's simply balance. If everyone would just spawn next to the payload it would be chaos.
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>>689635928

>there is no counter to mccree up close
>genji
>mei
>zarya

u wot m8
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>>689635875
I don't like this game much, but I can safely say I've never had a problem with microtransactions that don't affect play. Like in cod, didn't care. This, don't care. Dragon age, didn't care. It's never mattered to me
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>>689635073
If I wanted realism I would fap to cosplay.

Instead i'm fapping to dudes getting knocked up by their shemale girlfriends.
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>>689636019
bad wording, i mean't it kinda like stay true to the original character. mei obviously doesn't have 400 pound thighs, so who the fuck enjoys picture's like that? doesn't resemble mei in any way
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>>689635875

Non compulsory micro transactions for cosmetic items.. which are perfectly acceptable.

You understand you're complaining that Blizzard doesn't expect just a game sale to cover its costs for life?

Don't be a massive faggot.
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>>689631397
Its the final descent of once hardcore Blizzard into catering the most casual of cucks. Pixar Cinematics are shame for a studio that gave us Starcraft and Warcraft cinematics. Pixar light weaboo chars. Weaboo maps.
"RYUUU GA WAGA TEKI WO KURAU!" edgy edge lord
>costs 40$ on a free to play market
Low maps, shitter ammount of game modes, fights feel claustrofobic
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>>689635928

Tell that to Genji countering his flashbang, son.
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>>689635928
>Ganking class
>Dies by trying to 1v1 a ganker

>Widowmaker
>Sniper
>Dies by trying to challenge her in range

The people crying in this game are hilarious, I can't believe Blizzard actually did listen to these casual players suffering from dunning kruger, Widow/Mcree can be outplayed if you just know what they do.
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>>689632706
That game wouldn't be anything if it wasnt for tf2
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>>689636404
>still using cuck as an insult
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>>689636122
Please tell me how Genji or Mei can get out of his stunlock.

Zarya might live through the stun and right click, but not through the roll and another right click. And she has nowhere near the damage to kill him before he kills her.

McCree is the ganking character, and getting ganked is never fun. He must be removed.
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>>689636192
>>689636296
cosmetics are literally the only form of "progression" in Overwatch
they could at least guarantee a rare in every box
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Good game, great characters, great optimization. My biggest problem is how the characters are set up in a counter system. Reaper counters roadhog, mei counters mercy / 76 etc. It makes picking a main useless because both teams constantly switch characters to counter each other. I don't know how it would be done, but i wish certain heros didnt just one shot shit on other certain heros.
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Is tanking fun mah niggas? Thinking of getting it if so.
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>>689635928
which is why tyou don't let him get close, problem solved
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>>689636587
Well, when u are a subman that gets off to watching ur woman being raped by niggers, its a fucking insult.
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>>689631397
Can't say. Haven't played it.
But I can waste your time by making you read this.
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>>689636723
touche bitch
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>>689636553

>game designers take pre-existing ideas and make them better, especially Blizzard
>edgy faggots are reluctant to move on to better things because they feel encroached upon - we call these people Hipsters
>"I can't believe there's another cartoony shooter game, loads of people play tf2 today and it's still innovative!" said no one ever.
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>>689636717
there's no way to take you seriously when you use an insult commonly used by edgy 16 year old trump supporters on reddit
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>>689636669
Yeah, but they realistically don't have to because they're given every level. Like, rare guarantee would be good, and should be there but they have an out
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>>689635073
this is why people hate shad
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>>689631397
"I've got you in my sights, infidels."
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>>689636900
>offended by the use of 'cuck'

found the cuck
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>>689636690
Not with McCree on the prowl.

>>689636699
which wouldn't be a problem if we were fighting on an open field. But we are fighting on maps with lots of back routes.
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>>689636615

You do realise that if you are caught out by most champions that you are dead, right?

He has severe counters and is very weak to pick-offs having limited escapes unlike Tracer, Genji and Reaper.

You shouldn't be mad for dying to lack of awareness - believe it or not there are things you can do to prevent those types of death. One thing you can do is play mccree until you understand his play-style. You'll be much more understanding.

I played all throughout beta and there was way more bullshit than mccree. His damage reduction is more than ample this patch,
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>>689636900
>commonly used by edgy 16 year old trump supporters on reddit

do you know where you are friend?
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>>689636900
bernie cuck spotted
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>>689636879
>shallow game with ravenous fans- we call them fags
>"a game with zero progression and static game modes is innovstive"- said every overwatch fan boy ever
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>>689636900
>not supporting trump
>current year
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>>689633933
Hard countered by junkrat though.
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>>689631397
Not really the type of game I'd normally play but I'm enjoying it
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>>689633295
Go play cod if you want realism
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>>689637333

>ranked coming soon
>more heroes
>more maps
>expanding lore and storyline for the game so that you feel a part of it
>smooth and ever-evolving so that it meets competitive standards

tell me more about those dicks you suck knowing that a brand new game killed your decade old weebathon.
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>>689636267
Have you looked closely at her player model? That picture you're complaining about isn't THAT exaggerated.
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>>689637522
Ahahahahaha
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>>689636966
surely you've seen how slow leveling is, plus a diluted loot pool of mostly sprays and voice lines, not including dupes adds up to getting nothing worthwhile without dumping money on it
then you get a skin for a character you never use
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>>689636669
a rare is guarenteed in every box you autist
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>>689637193
4chan going full sjw, that is all.
Times they are a changin'
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>>689637639
>new characters and finding out how I rank compared to everyone else, plus reading

Yep, sure sounds like a dense experience to me. Never would I feel like I'm doing the same thing every time I play with any one character
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>>689637824
tell that to everyone who gets two sprays and voice lines in a box
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>>689637681
Oh, no, I have. I think there should be guaranteed rares, I'm just playing devil's advocate
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>>689637214
On most of the heroes, there are fights you can win even if they have the drop on you. There is some back and forth there, I cant kill this class 1v1, but I can kill this class.

McCree when played like a ganker, can kill any other hero 1v1, whether he got the drop on them or not.

That is his problem, when on the prowl, he is un-counterable
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>>689632706
>Overwatch so good /b/

Already below Hearthstone as far as Twitch viewers go, People are already starting to get tired of it. It was alright at first, but it gets so fucking boring and repetitive. It's rock, paper, scissors FPS with gigantic fucking hitboxes so even unskilled noobs can score kills and feel like they're doing well. Blizzard knows how to pander to casuals, they've been doing it for a while now and you faggots eat it up.
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>>689637915
it comes full circle
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>>689638123
it's really just a case of hype-blindness, it's ok when Overwatch does it, but if it were EA or Konami, hell would be raised
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>>689638061
there is a blue in every box you autist
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>>689638134
git gud you whiny autistic fella.
It's funny Blizzard listened to casuals and not the pros, most pros have said that mccree is picked due to his ability to quickly take down tanks before healers buff them up. The issue is healers, lucio/mercy need nerfs, but since no one is whining about them why not buff the only hero that can actually push through this autistic tank/heal meta.
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>>689631644
I instantly lose respect for someone when I learn they play Pharrah. Her and Roadhog are the two broken turds laid down on this perfect apple pie of a game.
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>>689634798
lol

2yung to understand. Or too retarded.
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>>689637824
Two sprays, a voice line and what is the 4th thing?

Boxes have 4 you know. Was the 4th item a rare perhaps?
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>>689638404
I get you
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dubs decides who I main for a week
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>>689638218

>they cater to a huge market
>faggots

You sound like one of those pissbabies from WoW that complained and complained that they added group finder and raid finder with easily obtainable "t1" epics for newcomers, and they actually listened to you stupid cunts and upped the difficulty of all encounters and killed their own game.

Good on you.
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>>689638218
Blizzard constantly panders to casual faggots.
Remember Heroes of The Storm, the MOBA without a shop?
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>>689638534
Caldarius
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reinhardt was seriously disappointing. the damage needs to be waaaaay more for him to be effective.
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>>689638534
bastion
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>>689638507
a player icon
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>>689638765

Wtf? Have you seen the DPS he can output after Earthshatter?

I don't think you have.
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>>689638467
>takes 10 seconds to heal a tank from almost zero to full health.

Yeah, healers are so OP.
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>>689638534
Torbjorn
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>>689636690
Depends highly on your team, if they abandon you there is not much you can do.
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>>689633014
>and tribes 2 sometimes

my nigga
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>>689633927
wouldn't that be underdesigned
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>>689638534
reaper
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>>689634375
Genji actually takes decent skill to play. I'd go against a Genji over fucking rocket-spamming jetbitch or infinite-health gay biker any day of the week.
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>>689638596
You sound like a crybaby faggot who needs his hand held on every game he plays. You don't have to be so buttblasted.
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>>689638876
Because in pro play there's nothing taking down the mccree, you're frigging bad at this game and don't deserve to criticize heroes, git gud.
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>>689638833
kek
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>>689638534
Winston, Learn to kill widows
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Just a friendly reminder that your Mercy hates you, thinks you are dumb, and wishes you would die so she could rez 5 of you and get play of the game.
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>>689639166
tfw I'm the Mercy
or Lucio if i feel lazy
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>>689631891
>spam fire
It evens out the benefits of hitscan weapons, which can't spam but are much more accurate.
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>>689639055

I raided heroics and had no problem with Blizzard helping casual players get shitty highly stat reduced epics from LFR to help them into the game.

Now they take all the useful stats away and give you hyped up rares.

Games should not be torturous to play. It should be accessible and offer things for all types of player - disagreement on that topic is rather stupid.
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>>689631397
how do you get clown mask for demoman?
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May have been okay if it was F2P as it was originally intended. But now it's B2P it's obviously a shill/advertisement forced game.
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>>689631397
As a competitive gamer, no I won't disclose my information, Overwatch is a good game to "get in and get out".

They managed to make a fun game where you can play as long as you want, easily. Plug and play so to speak.

The game is what it is, with Blizzard behind it they have the budget to take it places.

Interesting characters, easy controls, not too over the top, overall the experience is good.
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>>689639152
>kill

kek, the fat monkey man with a hit box the size of California is gonna try to kill the sniper?

Shes gonna pick you off mid jump man.
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>>689639462
this
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>>689639083
I'm not even the guy you're replying to, but I love Overwatch fanboys. Their only defense is "gid gud" whenever anyone has a criticism, as if the game takes any real skill to play. I've never seen hitboxes so fucking atrocious in my life.

>point in general direction and shoot
>press Q
>mom, look how gud i am
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>>689639503
sure, that's why he's her counter.
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>>689639324
Regardless of whatever your point was you still sound like a overly arrogant faggot
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>>689639297
I know that feel man.

>My team is full of idiots, I wish they would die so I can watch them DIE AGAIN
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>>689638765
Lol people like you shouldn't be able to voice their opinions. Please consider suicide :)
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>low-tier/mid-tier champs

gg Blizzo
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>>689639462
>as a competitive gamer
>no, I won't disclose my information

This is fucking /b/, m8. Roll in with hard evidence or cut the shit.
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>>689639462
we believe you
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>>689636553
>[insert game] wouldn't be anything if it wasnt for [insert game]
Should have stopped at pong mofos.
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Great game. Tracer is my bitch.
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>>689639610
I was replying to him bullshitting about mccree.

Try pressing Q in a game where players are good, you will either waste it, fuck up, or end up dying.
Mcree Q requires positioning unless you're facing casual braindead people that complain about bastion.
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>>689638833
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>>689639688
He is a counter to fast moving, low health heroes. But with a gun that only shoots 5m.

There is no way you are going to get across the field of fire widow has to kill her unless you get lucky and can flank without her seeing you. And even then, she has her mine to tell her when you are near, and her ult to see your big fat gorilla head through walls.

Stick to killing tracer, lucio, and mercy.
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>>689639696

You have no argument that making games difficult to achieve even a moderate level of completion is a good thing.

There are always more rewards for the player that spends more time in a gaming environment. Arrogance and confidence in your argument are two completely different things.

I know I'm not wrong - you can see it in all markets that make completion difficult that their games dwindle and die out. Grinding was fun 10-15 years ago, now people are impatient and want the goods quickly; enter micro-transactions and faster grinds.
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>>689640397
You know, you could.. idk.. press e. Also unless your chromosome count is one too high you should be able to locate her first.
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>>689636615
get the fuck out. genji main here. learn to parry or go back to hello kitty island adventure
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>>689640468
anon the other anon is a fucking retard, i agree 100% with what you are saying just so you know
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>>689638467
>autistic tank/heal meta
It's not about tanking or healing. It's all about protecting your dps, who's looking for picks. Only reason you bring tanks/healers is to prolong the life of the dps, ensuring you get kills and make plays.

On a side note: if you're playing mercy/lucio favor your dps, not your tank. Your dps should go down last.
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>>689639866
McCrees ult is the only thing about him that takes any skill, and that's a stretch. And most Mcrees fuck it up anyway.

Fucking 76's Ult takes more skill than McCree.
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>>689633386
The Joke ----->

Your head.
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got into beta
played it
played less
stopped playing
eh

the game is okay, 5/10
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>>689641171
but, it's 12:00.
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>>689641171
>Fucking 76's Ult takes more skill than McCree.

Get lost you underage bronze kid, this site is +18
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Yeah its Awesome, get some pretty awesome kill KDRs
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I like how a pushing the entire enemy team off the objective at the last possible second and winning gets beaten by a double kill with 10 seconds between each kill for Play of the Game

>>689638467
Lucio and Mercy are easy to kill
>Widowmaker
>Hanzo
>Phara
>Tracer
>Genji
>Bastion
>Reaper
>Junkrat
they can all kill the healer, then the tank easily
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>>689640397

Just nope.
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>>689640580
E is good yes, but its only a few seconds, and now you have 200m of space between her and you that you still have to cover.

Winston is good. Lots of places where he is useful. Widowmakers are not one of them.

>>689640648
You cant parry what has already hit you. The idea is that McCree has already got you in the stun, he got the drop on you. how will you kill him now?
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>>689641423
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>>689641423

Wow...
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>>689641692
oh fuck off you troll. There are no maps with the distances you describe. I'm gonna go watch some trailers til the servers are back up.
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>>689641521
Go watch agents rising tournament, I'm certain pros know more than you do. I can list the reasons why x champion is picked in y map or composition, but all of them are nearly viable.

The Mccree/widow whine & nerf is unjustified. Mcree wasn't even 100% pick unlike lucio/mercy and reinhardt. If anything needs nerfs it's any of those 3 champs or the other tanks/supps needs buffs. Defense/Offense class is pretty balanced, there was even a composition by Cloud 9 on the king of the hill map with 5 tracers 1 lucio and they stomped.
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>>689640648

>maining in Overwatch

You dun goofed mate.
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>>689641381
>Mcree Q requires positioning

76 also requires positioning. However, 76 lets you pick other targets that would be better to kill. Making a skillful 76 ult, better than a noob 76 ult.

Skill man, McCrees don't need any of it. 76 needs some of it.
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>>689641692
youre literally autistic. between other targets and cover and E you can easily get on a widowmakers face. theres only one point i can think of with enough open space for a widow to deal with a winston and thats route 66 and even then youll have other targets to worry about
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>>689642290
Are you implying pulling off a good mccree ult without any aid from your team is possible against good players? A quick Genji deflect completely denies it.

Again, get lost you bronzie weeaboo.
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overrated
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>>689641939
between first and second point on Hanamura
The huge open area Temple of Anubis
Between 1 and 2 on Volskaya Industries. there is that huge open area there.
Watchpoint: Gibraltar has about six areas like that.

I could go on, its almost every map besides the double attack ones.
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>>689631397
its probably okay, im just done with all those games, that basically looks like a mid 2000s wc3 or cs 1.5 mod, with new hd graphics.
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I've never played it, looks fun enough, but I'm too busy working and jacking off the rule 34 of it.
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>>689641692
>200m of space between her and you that you still have to cover
True. Add to it Widow's *behind* most of her team, often elevated, and Winston always goes on cooldown while Widow flies away. Monkey eats so much hitscan on his way to the backline.
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>>689642395
I can think of about one on every map.

>>689642451
A genji reflect will fuck up a 76 ult too. Im not sure what you are arguing for, that McCrees ult takes skill? all it takes is positioning, and if that is skill then McCree is still bottom of the list, since every ult takes positioning.
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Team Fortress 2.5 is pretty fun. Hyped to hell but it's a polished online shooter
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>>689643486
Jesus christ you're autistic, mcree ult makes you immobile and often is unusable except in flanking scenario or in combos.

76 you just press and shoot, genji deflecting doesn't make a difference as you can stop shooting.

Have you ever even played vs a good genji that can deflect back? Holy shit you're stupid.
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as a filthy casual, i like playing it for an hour or two here and there. i'm not going to read pro blogs, watch hours of replays and study the game like it's a fucking exam. i'll just pick a character i feel like playing and i think works for whatever the current situation is and enjoy the game.
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>>689643709
>MacRee can move in his ult
>76 dies if Genji deflects his ult while looking at him
>I have no idea what the last part is meant to say because it seems to refute "point" number two
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>>689631397
boring
and agree with the overdesigned
the characters are so cartoony and exaggerated that they're just stupid looking
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>>689644006
What? Genji deflecting back 76 doesn't instakill him, nor deny his mobility.

Mccree is vulnerable, open for hooks, genji deflections or whatever, and he has to use it quickly assuming the players you're facing are good. Genji deflecting back high noon means mcree dies with no kills, but I guess you casuals didn't know about this and keep arguing that 76 ultimate is the hardest ever.
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>>689633424
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>>689632706
You do realise that having 10 million playes shortly after release is the fucking definition of over hype right?
You absolutel fucking idiot.
Lets revisit it in a few months and look how many players its got.
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>>689643709
76s ult does not have the dps that McCrees does, as he can drop people in one hit. Letting off on the trigger is wasting damage. also, you can just not shoot the genji. More skill for you there, not sure if McCrees know what it looks like.

you know you can wait for genji to stop reflecting before shooting your McCree ult. it has like 8 seconds of time, and the reflect is like 3 seconds.

I assume you are just mad because you are being compared to the Call of Duty character? But you have to understand, CoD takes more skill than your class.
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>>689633386
He was designed to be as edgy as possible. Your reaction is proof they succeeded.
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>>689644371
I'm not saying 76 is hardest,
if he keeps shooting Genji will kill on deflect
he can be hooked, blocked, stunned, all that jazz too
Macree can get kills when genji is deflecting if he:
A. can wait until deflect is over
B. Genji isn't the first target
or C. Macree ults behind Reindhardt's, Winston's, or Zarya's shield
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>>689644293
I'm with you on the overdesigned and needlessly complex character and world designs. Simple is better, especially in a fast-paced shooter. Granted, it doesn't seem and fast-paced and Quake, but maybe it's just my perception... either way, most everything in Overwatch is too "busy" looking and it's distracting. Glad I didn't pay for it or I'd be quite pissed.
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>>689644371
Not saying it is the hardest ever, its probably like number 3 easy. However, McCree's is first on that list.
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>>689644849
>>689644982
I'll just leave this here instead of explaining to autists. http://masteroverwatch.com/heroes

This is pre-nerf Mccree and widow, keep whining because you suck, meanwhile I can abuse symmetra and lucio.
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>>689644918
That's not edgy, that stupid.

As long as TF2 has been out, you'd think Blizzard might have learned from Valve's successes and failures.
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>>689645302
>leaves very vague link with no explanation
I won

well, good job, you proved absolutely nothing
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>>689644760
>shortly after release
>revisit it in a few months
Except people have been watching gameplay and patching for like a year before launch. Everyone knew what the downsides to the game were way ahead of buying it. Wouldn't it be over hype if something didn't live up to said hype?
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It's kinda repetitive, but still fun for an hour or two.

Loot boxes are dumb though. It's only cosmetic stuff, but should there even be microtransactions after paying the $40/60 for the game?

I'll pay money for the stuff I want, but rather not go through this chance bullshit.
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>>689634899
Agreed, 200 health would be just fine.
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>>689645302
>>689645788

No he definitely proved his point.

That Mcree is easy and everyone who plays him is stupid.
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>>689638936
Playing Rein, and no one stands behind the shield.

Any time I see another Rein player, he has an entire entourage rallying to his point at all times. What the fuck blue team? Every time....
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>>689632706
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>>689639462
Yeah, in other words every stupid cunt can play this shit, nice going blizzard.
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>>689645788
>Debating with an autist
>Caring about debate victory

Damn, this is why you fail at life.
This link is the global statistics for hero winrates, mccree and widow pre-nerf are at the bottom, and thus will drop to the lowest tier. Meanwhile symmetra and lucio are riding the winrate train simply cause they're op, as stated by pros themselves.

I have no need to explain mccree or widow more, if you can't get it then you're autisticly biased or just have an extra chromosome.
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>>689646168
theres a callout to tell people to group up on you, spam that shit
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>>689633232
KKKEEEEEEEEEKlkkkkkkkkkk
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The same people that call league of legends a game for casuals play over watch, aka call of duty with Pixar graphics.
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>>689632477
>impossible to dodge

Take cover, ya dip. Are you one of those kids that gets shut down by bastions too?
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>>689646505
Both are for casual you pleb.
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>>689638849
After a well timed one, assuming the enemy team is stupid enough to group up right next to one, sure.

>>689638765
Do you KNOW what a TANK's roll is exactly???? In any other roll based game you don't expect the tank to be your DPS dude....

A good Rein is only as good as his team. A good team with a great rein is hard to contend with.
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>>689646306
all this shows is you don't know what these numbers mean.
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>>689646168
>he has an entire entourage rallying to his point at all times
No, wait. Mmmm. Protect your dps. Rally to your dps, not the other way around. They make the picks and provide kills.
And no, I rarely play dps. They are still the most important thing to keep alive. Buy them time.
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Overwatch? More like...Over...stupid....

[hide]nailed it[/hide]
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>>689647374
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>>689642451
Love seeing that happen, my god.

Once saw a Genji reflect hanzo's Q on startup. Amazing.

>>689643709
If you play 76 or mcree, you don't get to insult the other. Especially for your Ults. Get over yourself.
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>>689633933
I was pro-Mei until a friendly one dropped a wall right in front of my rocket barrage. Fuck that chubby ho.
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Loving it so far, my favorite is Zenyatta as i usually take support as no one else in pubs will, but i play him extremely offensively, his orbs of discord are nuts and his ult is godly for big pushes.
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>>689646306
I probably should've greentexted the "I won"
it represents you calling me and autist and "walking away"

I'm not even sure what you're trying to say anymore

>>689647272
you're dps is typically far more mobile than a tank or support, keeping up to help is nearly impossible
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>>689631711
That was always the valve method: fight broken with broken
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>>689637027
Underrated, holy shit.
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>>689647374
i smell a redditfag
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>>689634375
I wonder who you main and who usually kicks your ass. It'sarealmystery.
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Blizzards get worst by the day.
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>>689638482
You sound like you play Bastion
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>>689634375
>complains about characters that counter the apparent only one they play

maybe try something new
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>>689647998
I play Zarya mostly.
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>>689631397
Fun style, fun setting, fun game.

The muh diversity is done tastefully, in a way that's more No More Heroes than Gone Home.
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>>689647998
kek
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>>689638482
>Roadhog

Lol wut? He's not difficult at all
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I can't play this game without having to take a fap break tbh fam
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>>689635061
I miss the days of paid TF2. Real easy way to keep a lot of the trash out. I hope overwatch never becomes f2p.
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>>689648291
Are you assuming that I play mei a lot. I don't all that much, but either way the people that need nerfs are not counters to mei besides maybe Widowmaker
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>>689646371
They never come.

>>689647272
Yeaaaaah.... I still see randoms running in front of my shield during choke points. The tank isn't responsible for the poor decisions of DPS.
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>>689638765
try harder faggot,

i went seventeen and two today as him and then my best game ever as him went thirty-one and twenty-two
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>>689648795
mee too
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>>689648997
Reinhardt shits on bad teams, and gets shitted on hard when he is on a bad team. It just comes with the territory, this kid is crazy for thinking he needs a damage buff.
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>>689647742
>keeping up to help is nearly impossible
This is exactly what you need to be practicing. They'll stop moving at some point and save those mobility cooldowns. Try to beat them to chokepoints, then turn around.

It's common seeing tanks not checking who's on their rear.
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>>689648538
Reread it again bro.

He hates Pharrah, and he also hates Roadhog. Both are turds.
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>>689649276
Yeah, he isn't me.

>>689648995
That is me.

I check my rear, I have no problem with smart players. I have a problem with pub players never picking or helping tank. That will die down with the updates soon enough though.
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>>689635875
You are free to ignore the microtransactions and it changes literally nothing about the game. Hell, you eventually get the shit for free anyway.

P.S. Overwatch has bios, retard. They're on the website, because the only people that care are autismos like you.
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>>689635876
That's battleborn, and they nerfed the shit out of galilea.
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>>689648995
spam it more,
or be tracer and spam
"Cheers love, the cavalry's ere'"
"Cheers love, the cavalry's ere'"
"Cheers love, the cavalry's ere'"

>>689649276
I'll stick to pushing the objective as a tank with a support and letting my dps kill from behind, it works out better that way
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>>689638482
>Pharrah
brb hitscan
>Roadhog
brb filling ult
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>>689631397
Needs a map maker then i'll be happy
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>>689636615
Just learn some damn awareness. Blizzard isn't gonna remove a character because a few retards don't know how to look around.
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The only part of the game I can't stand is Hanzo who always seems to get a headshot on me. Also I feel like turrets shouldn't automatically aim at people it should have to turn. When I blink into an objective as Tracer, it should auto aim to my exact location. But otherwise the game is really enjoyable
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>>689649726
>changes nothing
other than getting rewards at snails pace
never mind the fact that most loot is sprays and icons
>on the website
it should be in the game
>only autismos care
sorry i like story and not just
"boom explosions flashy cool guns"
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>>689649795
In an ideal world anon... In an ideal world.

I love it when the team loadout and playstyle synergies this way.
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>>689650463
typically it does because the people who pick attack characters only care about killing
even without a support it can work out

>captcha is click with new shit appearing
>clicked 20 things
>you mistyped it
fuck you captcha
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>>689649706
>picking or helping tank
True, more people should pick tanks and supports.
However, don't expect any help as a tank. You're first to go when the fighting starts if you're doing well. Second would be healer. Last one standing should be dps.
This is also why you're (almost) always last in line to get healed.
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>>689638973
No, it's over designed. because it's so much looks for a game with just one gamemode
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>>689636900
Jesus Christ the cuckening
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>>689641423

Faggot team couldn't handle one bastion
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>>689651176
the issue with that is that you need to push an objective, the longer a tank is on it the better your chance of winning

if it was team deathmatch or a moba, DPS would be top priority
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Are we just gonna ignore the fact Symmetra has autism,

Like no joke. It's confirmed
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>>689651176
I hear that. It isn't that I tank poorly, or that I fail to grasp how this works.

It is a frustration with the complete lapse of coordination or communication in a team based game. Why are these people playing a team based game if they don't want to work together?

People play without mic, or are even averse to using in-game chat to convey their intentions. Two people pick the same character, one of them furiously unpicks and repicks until the other person gets off, or the match starts.

>>689650877
I agree with this, a great mercy is a game changer, but it is very possible to win without her, or lucio for that matter... At least casually speaking, which is all I really hold myself to. Also, fuck those capchas.
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>>689647717
my nigga
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>>689638765
No way, are you crazy? Rein is good already if you know what you're doing. A damage buff would make him extremely overpowered.
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>>689652549
i disagree, more damage would help
at least enough to one shot a max health Tracer
because let's face it if you hit her, you deserve a kill
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>>689652816
It's not your job to kill her. It's your job to tank.
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>>689652021
Yeah, I remember reading that. From a comic I think
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>>689652913
a tank should defend themselves
there's a reason they have weapons
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>>689653254
>>689652021
Yep.

Reading her backstory made me just kind of shrug. Wants to help, works for company that oppresses people, still works for them and wants to help. OK.
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>>689652015
>the longer a tank is on it the better your chance of winning
Need to listen to this a few times to understand why your perception of tanking/supporting is slightly off.

Sure, you can deal damage as a tank, and you can kill people as a tank. So can Mercy. That is not her role. You've already lost potential damage if you're still standing.
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I wish there were more modes. It's awesome though, a lot of fun even though I just solo queue. Looking forward to new heroes and ranked.

Roadhog and Winston are my favourites.
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>>689653438
If you are soloing tracer as tank, you have a much bigger problem than your damage output anon. Besides, Tracer is only a threat to Rein when she has her ult. Otherwise she is a fly.
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>>689652323
>Two people pick the same character
Not a problem.

You need to play some 6v6 premade. It's far easier to communicate.
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>>689653670
He never said damage output was important.

Tanks take attention/damage off of the DPS/Support. The DPS/Support live longer if the person protecting them stays longer. That is an objective fact.
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>>689652816
>let's face it if you hit her, you deserve a kill
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>>689653670
you don't need damage to push an objective
i've had my attack characters get rekt and Mercy and I, as Reindhardt<, pushed the objective for a win

damage isn't your main concern

>>689653762
no, she'll kill a tank pretty quickly without her ult
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>>689654082
Talking about pubs, not prearranged lobbies. My friends list is not big enough yet to have 5 people on and available at all times.
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>>689632477
lmao, you must be a simpleton subhuman nigger to not figure out the almost endless counters to his ult.
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>>689654276
>solo tracer
>tank.

That is your problem. PS, hitting E, or landing one hammer swing sends them packing. Moving with purpose also helps. Shoulder charge to get away.... You should not be picked off by a tracer dude.
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>>689654171
>he DPS/Support live longer if the person protecting them stays longer
Yeah, but if you're the tank and you're the last one standing on the objective...
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>>689654444
Quads of racism confirm...?
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>>689644918
Omg it's a old 4chan raid but switched XD classic
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>>689654606
well i'm not going to leave the objective to get killed be someone else
also, if tracer gets hit she'll just rewind and waste that amazing shot you landed
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>>689654646
He never said that either. Just for the record, neither did I.
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