Aurora, 12 dead "GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE PEOPLE KILL
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Aurora, 12 dead
"GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE"
Binghamton, 13 dead
"GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE"
Fort Hood, 13 dead
"GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE"
Edmond, 14 dead
"GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE"
San Bernadino, 14 dead
"GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE"
San Ysidro, 21 dead
"GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE"
Killeen, 22 dead
"GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE"
Newton, 27 dead
"GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE"
Blacksburg, 32 dead
"GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE"
Orlando, 50 dead
"GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE"
Maybe it's time to admit that guns do kill people.
You have provided no evidence as to why that the whole "guns dont kill people" argument is false
also this thread and all threads like it are b8
>>689598306
Places with fewer guns have fewer gun deaths.
>>689598674
i like you
>>689597885
You see the problem is they don't carry guns, in United States we need more good people carrying guns that way they prevent criminals who have guns.
>>689598674
/thread
>>689598674
Its actually amazing how americans try and dispute this with terrible logic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC03hmS1Brk&ab_channel=JonLajoie
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Anonymous 06/14/16(Tue)23:50:31 No.689597885▶>>689599442
Aurora, 12 dead
"GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE"
Binghamton, 13 dead
"GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE"
Fort Hood, 13 dead
"GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE"
Edmond, 14 dead
"GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE"
San Bernadino, 14 dead
"GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE"
San Ysidro, 21 dead
"GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE"
Killeen, 22 dead
"GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE"
Newton, 27 dead
"GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE I KILL PEOPLE"
>>689599682
ffs did it wrong oops.
well for the sake of random I think it's ok right?
>>689597885
>Maybe it's time to admit that guns do kill people.
wait a minute i will place my loaded ar-15 on the table and wait till it massacres my neighbors
>>689597885
Education would save lives not a ban. Aslo this is a shill thread.
>>689597885
Maybe it's time to admit a pencil can kill people.
And spatulas.
And puddles of water.
And tufts of rabbit fur.
And elephant shit.
And beer.
And cars.
And networking cables.
And rocks.
... its time to admit the problem is the wrong people have guns.
>>689598674
And more murders.
Only a slave population is disarmed.
>>689599626
it's amazing that such a useless point could be thought to be an argument.
>>689600266
How can you say that with a straight face?
A gun is literally a fucking killing machine
The best part is NOBODY is saying that guns should be banned, the ONLY thing people want, is to make it more difficult, and by more difficult people mean, nobody should be allowed to walk into a shop and buy a gun without any sort of check
>>689597885
All your shooting are due to niggers and social problems.
>>689600578
Here comes the terrible logic...
>>689600409
Funny how Americans simultaneously pride themselves on the strength of their military and believe they can defeat it with local militias
>>689600853
>The best part is NOBODY is saying that guns should be banned, the ONLY thing people want, is to make it more difficult, and by more difficult people mean, nobody should be allowed to walk into a shop and buy a gun without any sort of check
.. what part of "the wrong people have guns" did you miss, dumbass?
>>689597885
>27 dead 1 injured
may have beaten his score but no one will beat his accuracy %
>>689600266
Yes it is time to admit the wrong people have guns and that is because they are so readily available you fucking retard.
>Ban all guns! Yes, that will make all the insane people go away and we can live happily ever after!
You do realize that a psycho can still manage to nab a weapon even if all mer gurhns are banned? I live pretty close to what you call a white ghetto, not a trailer park, just pure filth and you are stupid to think that I won't have my 12 ga riot gun/9mm loaded at all times then you are a fucking moron
>But the police, they can save you.
No
>>689601215
That argument is pure hyperbole
Just look at the statistics, wherever there are more guns, there is more gun violence.
There are safety laws governing everything but as soon as it's even suggested that there are safety laws governing A FUCKING KILLING MACHINE everyone loses their shit.
How many more mass shootings do there have to be to make people realise they're talking complete dog shit
>>689601547
NOBODY WANTS TO BAN GUNS FFFUUUUUCKCKCKCKCKCK
>>689601065
other then the blood thirsty, do you think the American Military would willingly open fire on it's own citizens.......yeah they probaly would.
>>689601482
... if you would stop being mad for a second you would get what I just said.
>>689601586
>hyperbole
... I dont think you know what that word means, dumbass.
Pro gun people say "Criminals don't obey gun laws"
They don't even have to because there fucking aren't any
>>689601980
>"muh grammar"
>Maybe we should limit the sales of certain weapons
MUH FREEDUMS! OBAMER TRYIN TO TAKE OVER THE COUNTRY
This is literally what you sound like to the rest of the civilized world. You used to be a respected country. What happened?
Top Anti Gun Control Arguments on 4chan
"Guns don't kill people people kill people"
"Niggers"
"Muh freedomz"
America, I love your TV and movies but you're becoming an even bigger joke than ever before. Your next president is going to be either Donald Trump or Hilary Clinton and you have lunatics killing multiple people every week. Wake up, do something.
>>689601967
I think they get what you mean, I think you're being willfully ignorant to the connection between the availability of guns and bad people buying guns.
>>689597885
people kill people but guns make it really fucking easy to do it
Its just pointless talkin about it,america loves death.
>>689601967
I'm not mad, I'm just writing words on a screen. I get what you said but it's just a fucking lazy argument with nothing to back it up. The wrong people have guns, we understand that, Captain obvious but that's because anybody can get a gun.
MUH SECERD WRIGHTS! DEY CAN'T TAKE WAY' MUH FREDUM!
Maybe if we ask nicely the criminals will turn their guns in
>>689598306
only when you admit spoons make people fat
>>689600578
found the american
>>689599442
except criminals don't commit mass shootings. They very much wants to live. It's the seemingly good people with no criminal background with a AR shooting the fuck out of people.
>>689597885
Shill thread. Paid for by Shillary and friends.
Designed to polarize. If pro-gun folks can be enraged into saying stupid things (preferably, actionable things - like threats) - then they can be highlighted in tabloid fashion as examples of how irrational pro gun people are.
This is bait, plain and simple. Don't nibble.
>>689598674
This
>>689597885
Or maybe it's time to admit that our mental healthcare system fails so hard, our security needs to step up monitoring on suspects, and that radical Islam is an enemy
>>689603556
Is this dumbfuck serious?
>>689602861
you do realize there are criminal background check with the legal sale of every firearm?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEihkjKNhN8
>>689597885
WWI - 20 million dead.
WWII - 50 million dead
Civil War - 500,000 dead
Napoleonic Wars - 5 million dead
Vietnam - 22 million dead
Communist Russia - 50 million dead
Communist China - 100 million dead
Only government should have guns, because that is the only way to make sure that no one is killed by guns. Do people actually believe this?
>>689599442
Then the good people shoot people who dont deserve to get shot because they thought they were armed. Just one example, wont solve anything
>>689603724
You know, people with real jobs don't have to lie for a living. You did know that, right?
>>689597885
Or realize that you just described the deaths of 0.000000001% of the population, so who gives a fuck.
>>689603792
that's blatantly untrue
>>689604002
Oh god he's serious
>>689604132
NICS background check nigga
>>689597885
Literally nobody could stop people from acquiring guns
Learn the rules of free market
>supply and demand bitch
Besides if they didn't have a gun they could easily rig a bomb
There's too many guns out on the streets already. If someone wants to go on a suicidal murderous rampage they'll use all of their resources to accomplish so. Mental Health is the big issue here.
>>689599830
It wont do shit, but it would help YOU kill people en mass after you find out niggers fuck your mom on the regular.
>>689597885
>>689599830
Holy fuck americans are retarded... imagine how hard it would be kill 50 people without a gun. No guns = less mass murder
>>689603792
Reported for lying. Bought a five seven at a gun show with just ID and cash. Walked out with the gun same day.
>>689603792
Dylan Roof had previous convictions for drugs and trespassing. Omar was on an FBI watch list. People definitely slip through the cracks. That's not to say its frequent, but clearly these background checks aren't sufficient.
I stand behind you in line at the store with a smile on my face...and a gun under my shirt and you are none the wiser, yet you are safer for having me next to you. I won't shoot you. My gun won't pull it's own trigger. It is securely holstered with the trigger covered. It can't just go off. However, rest assured that if a lunatic walks into the grocery store and pulls out a rifle, I will draw my pistol and protect myself and my family and therefore protect you and your family. I may get shot before I can pull the trigger...but, I won't die in a helpless blubbering heap on the floor begging for my life or my child's life. No, if I die it will be in a pile of spent shell casings. I won't be that victim. I choose not to be. As for you, I don't ask you to carry a gun. If you are not comfortable, then please don't. But I would like to keep my right to choose to not be a helpless victim. There is evil in the world and if evil has a gun, I want one too...
>>689601215
The "wrong people" just go fucking buy them, and if they don't have any criminal history they get it same day. Fuck you
>>689600266
So true
Nice dub btw
>>689597885
Oh yeah because criminals are so known for following the law
>>689604443
And technically that's illegal, but unenforceable.
>>689601547
The people who sell guns illegally get them from somewhere, and its easy because there's so many
>>689597885
For those who will not place any blame on the access of guns in America I'm willing to challenge anyone of you. Give me your name, address and phone number. I'll come to you. I'm a gun owner just not a military grade gun owner. We'll do a simple test. I get a gun you get a rock. We stand 30 yards apart. Someone yells go and we each use our weapon. My gun, your rock. Guess who survives? Me. The gun doesn't commit the murder but it makes it a hell of a lot easier and deadlier.
>>689603792
You realize any motherfucking with enough money can waltz into a gun show and buy whatever he wants without a background check, right? Hell, there are gun sales/trading groups on Facebook for fucks sake.
Just remember, it took the swat team 3 hours to get to the orlando shooting.
Police won't save you.
Be your own first responder.
>>689598674
Gun Deaths is a misleading number. 60%+ of gun deaths are suicides.
>>689601926
Only until you were ordered to massacre your home town, then things would start to change.
Ok I'm a Canadian and I don't get why you idiots want to "regulate" guns.
You know fucking cars kill more people right? Banning or not banning guns won't cause a significant loss of life and you fags need to get over it.
>>689605609
ITT every gunfag thinks theyre a special forces trooper.
>>689605737
And of the remaining, 80-90% are city niggers shooting each other.
>>689603862
Nigger what are you doing, stop making us look bad
>>689597885
The homicide rate has been in decline for 30 years and mass shootings account for 0.2% of total homicides. So basically you're basing your opinion entirely on federal policy entirely on statistically insignificant outliers.
Ever think about making your own opinions based on statistics rather then letting the media and politicians manipulate you with inflammatory new articles?
PS: Come and take it you little bitch.
>>689605593
motherfucker*
>>689605374
Will that be your trial defence? "It wasn't me! It was the gun!"
Let's just say you managed to ban sales of firearms. That still leaves 270 million firearms out in the public. There's still access to those weapons.
The NRA, gun manufacturers, and gun dealers are very sorry people are dying from mass shootings. The only solution is of course to buy more of their guns. It's not about profit, its about protection and your freedom. Your safety is 30 rounds of liberty and freedom in a AR, you carry with you on your back at all times.
>>689605936
>>689605737
That's a fucking lie you POS. I can do that. 60% of those suicides are committed by Rainbow Trouts.
>>689605874
Not at all faggot. But 99.99999% of the time cops don't stop crimes. They just report the aftermath. As a gun owner, I'm not special forces, but I'm not a helpless bitch either.
>>689605609
Be your own first responder...
...To a crime that wouldn't have happened with proper gun control
Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people.
>>689597885
>Newtown
>27 killed.
>1 injured.
Good aim.
>>689606028
He'd have to actually show up first instead of being some fuckass keyboard warrior.
>>689597885
Guns alone don't kill people, guns in the wrong hands kill people.
That's why stricter gun control is clearly necessary because the wrong people are getting guns too easily.
Guns don't kill people, I kill people.
With guns.
>>689606056
The government, law enforcement, and spy agencies are very sorry people are dying from mass shootings. The only solution is of course to disarm the people. It's not about power or control, its about protection and your freedom. Your safety is 30 rounds of liberty and freedom in a AR, carried by your local police at all times.
Now lick the boot.....LICK IT!
>>689597885
Guns cause more violence and death. I'm still pro-gun for three reasons: Shooting is fun. Our government is dangerous. Boar hunting is annoying with a bow.
>>689603862
Whoa there friend
You made too much sense, the eurocucks will never respond to such a post
>>689601689
False
>>689597885
...the guns are self-aware and capable of operating themselves now??? Oh boy
>>689606486
That won't change anything. If someone wants to go on a murderous rampage, a "stricter gun law" won't stop them.
it makes me laugh the ways amerifats defend their 'need' for guns, how retarded can you be to not see that being able to buy an assault rifle is not sensible when autists from 4chan exist to carry out mass shootings
>>689605936
>Life in the US now 4 times more deadly than the Wild West
>>689607135
Wild West is all myth you moron. It wasn't that wild.
>>689600266
Here's the difference: enter a school and try to kill 20 people with tufts of rabbit fur.
The judge will probably reward you for your skill rather than punish you. However, any sperglord can kill 20 with a gun.
The problem is that those who want guns are the wrong people to have guns.
>>689605755
Stupid stupid stupid stupid. You do realize that cars serve a purpose? It's called transportation. When was the last time you used and AR-15 to get to work or the store or your whore girlfriends house? Excuse me, boyfriend. An AR-15 is used for one purpose and one purpose only. To kill people. You don't use an AR-15 to slice bread, to drive to work, to clean your bathtub. You use it to kill other people. And when a car is considered dangerous(see Ford Pinto) we pass laws in this country to change it. In this country my Canadian friend the Republican congress passed a law not allowing government agencies to study gun deaths. What are they afraid of? They may actually prove that guns are dangerous. You're a stupid fucking faggot. Clueless.
>>689607135
Ya gee I wonder how reliable homicide convictions and statistics were tracked in the Wild West
>>689601482
word
>>689607433
>afraid in particular of AR-15
It's just a normal rifle with some scary black plastic bits attached, you fucking baby
>>689597885
sigh the pasta, again.
people die. some people die cause of bullets, a lot more people die because of cars.
people die, get the fuck over it.
just think about how much worse the world would be if people didn't die.
also you will die. the one and only thing you can be guaranteed to happen in your life is you will die. stop being so carried away with your own self worth that you don't deserve to die. cause you do, and you will.
>>689607433
Purpose is irrelevant, dumbfuck. Property is property, end of story.
>>689605936
Umm, stupid fuck. There was no "wild west". That was the movies. There were no studies back then either. Clint Eastwood is not a real cowboy. Back then people had to check their weapons before they entered city limits. Back in the "wild west" guns were used to kill native Americans, not each other. Your chart is as fake as pretending you have brain.
>>689598674
and more deaths by other means, people kill people because they are mentally unstable. americans have more mentally ill people because of bad diet probably because of mcdonalds.
>>689607433
>Stupid stupid stupid stupid
typical libtard cunt who knows zero- and thinks that shout-down is the finest rhetorical tactic. your implied definition of "used for" is emblematic of your shitbrain. thou art agendashill + faggot.
>>689598674
This is the worst b8 I have seen. Only one rating can be used
>9/11
>>689607753
It's not the AR in particular moron. It's semi autos with 30 round mags.
Bolt action rifles are all you need for hunting.
>>689600853
>The best part is NOBODY is saying that guns should be banned,
i am
>>689606425
let's be friends
>>689601467
>>689607055
If they can't get a gun to go on the murderous rampage with then they can't do it.
So a stricter gun law would stop that from happening in some cases at least.
The guy who shot up Pulse legally bought his weapons a few days before.
If he didn't have such easy access to those weapons the attack would have been much harder to orchestrate, maybe he would not have done it.
>>689608251
Hunting isn't the issue, dipshit.
It's about the right to self-defense, and the ability of the people to resist tyranny. Without guns, we would all still be living as serfs, the de facto property of the local lord and his professional soldiers. Eat a dick, you stupid faggot.
>>689597885
HOLY FUCK the pistol I keep in my desk just got up and went to go find dindus to kill. Man all this time I was thinking it was people that kill people not guns.
>>689603862
and the general public having guns stops those wars how again?
>>689607753
Wrong. An AR-15 can easily be altered to be a auto weapon. You've probably never even touched a gun. Let me teach you something. What differs an AR-15 is once it's fired a new round enters the chamber and you fire again. That makes it a Semi-auto weapon. But once you alter it, which is easily done, all you have to do is hold the trigger and multiple shots will be fired. You don't know dick about guns because you've never owned one. You just like to act like some tough guy. Lesson complete faggot.
>>689608982
If that's so, then why did none of the mass shooters who used an AR-15 make this easy alteration? Isn't it easy to do and makes the gun super deadly, or are you just full of shit?
Then explain why the highest concentration of gunowners never has any gun problems? Its a nigger/sand nigger/white trash problem not a gun problem.
You know what, fuck america, let it kill itself if its that what it wants
>>689608977
>if some assholes take over the country and start sending people to the gulags you should just bend over
Found the faggot
>>689604755
HOLY FUCK
I bet you were fapping as you wrote that fantasy.
I don't feel ANY safer standing beside someone who wants to make themselves [and family] a target in that kind of situation.
>>689608336
Then you sir are a flaming faggot who should an hero, preferably with a gun
gud thread OP
>>689608982
>>689609987
>find ourselves in the middle of paris or orlando shootings
>everyone around us getting gunned down indiscriminately
>"At least no one is making themselves a target by having a gun"
This is what eurocucks actually believe
>>689609291
some of them did some didn't. This guy just taped the clip so it was easy to reload. There's the other issue. Who needs a 100 round clip? Someone who's going to commit a mass murder. Once again, I'm a gun owner, you are not. You are just a pussy little girl who likes to claim you know something. You know about coming on /b/ looking at guys dressed as girls calling them traps and claiming you're not a queer. Newsflash. You're a faggot in denial.
>>689610049
why are guns necessary? if anything, it's just a petty excuse not to fight with swords.
>>689610558
>100 round clip
>claims to be a gun owner
This isn't a YLYL thread tho pal
And no, you're the closeted faggot that likes traps. I choose neither bailey jay nor buck angel
>>689609688
the concentration isn't the issue. It's the one person, two, three, four...alright, 371. that's the number of mass shootings in this country in 365 days. It only takes one. What number will do it four you? Obviously it's not 24. 24 5 to 7 year olds gunned down with an AR-15. Does 49 do it four you. Do we have to get to triple digits before you take action. No. Here's what it's going to take. You're family member. and I hope that happens soon. The sooner the better.
>>689610314
>be Amerifat standing in line at store tapping finger on gun
>fantasy running thru mind about being a Hero and saving the day
>paranoid about everyone around him
That's no way to live life buddy.
>>689609899
No, the argument that was made, was that governments are responsible most gun deaths, namely in big wars. And that's true. But how does the public having weapons reduce war deaths and local peacetime deaths? it's like saying just because the gobberment kills 100 people in wars, it doesn't matter if 1 person is killed on the streets, it's negligible. But in the grand scheme, most wars are also negligible in regards to deaths vs homeland deaths of age and disease etc.
>>689609987
>Some asshole tries to rob a stoe your at
>everyone on the ground
>like a pansy you have to listen
>man behind you pulls and shoots the would be robber
>everyone realizes what happened slowly
>he tells them everything is ok
>you blow him out of appreciation for your sad pathetic life
>>689610949
Because if you fight with swords, the guys who train all day every day and whose full time job it is to murder uppity peasants are going to win. Guns are a power equalizer that allowed people who work for a living to defend themselves and be free from feudal serfdom.
Modern eurocucks have forgotten this and that's why they're now disarmed, helpless, and neo-serfs getting culturally enriched good and hard
>>689606871
So whites are Racists, Slavers, Xenophobics, and Invaders. You're right about that. Except people are not keeping guns for a eventual over throw of the government but to to shoot the fuck out of people because they want the infamy after they die. By the way if the day comes when we need weapons to take back our government, it's already too damn late.
>>689611423
>fap fap fap
Fantasy life.
Seek help.
>>689603996
Armed citizens shoot the wrong person less often than trained police officers.
>>689598674
Tell that to South America you dense ass bitch
Guns don't kill people, people kill people
>>689611220
It wont ever happen i live in one of those areas where everyone has guns. Also go fuck yourself you pretentious faggot. If he hadn't used a gun it would have been a bomb, car or something else.
>>689609987
>(You)
Not a fantasy, the fucking truth.
Enjoy that feeling of helplessness when you realize that only criminals have one of the millions upon millions of unregistered guns in the USA.
Do you have any fucking clue as to how you will get the bad guys to release them to authorities.
I'd like to hear it.
I'm reasonable. I think we need to stop giving everyone access to Assault rifles.... people don't need them, they are made to kill people.
But fuck right sporky, I'd rather go out fighting, than offer myself and fam up.
>guns kill so many people
>more than half (60%) of those deaths are suicide related
>53,000 gun deaths for 2015
>32,000 car related deaths for 2015
At this point, everything is a problem since we humans are all retarded as fuck.
We do have a gun problem in the US, and I'm pro gun.
>>689598674
Places with fewer niggers have fewer deaths too.
>>689610311
not sure if you know the story behind this picture but she was firing an altered AR-15 handed to her from a "licensed gun instructor". She was 12. she lost control of the gun while firing it and died.
This is the American gun culture. Hand a 12 year old girl a gun.
This country is sick when it comes to guns. The parents who allowed this and the gun instructor deserved what happened. Not the little girl. She wasn't the "responsible gun owner" we hear so much about.
>>689611591
Not fantasy if it actually happens. There a tons of vids pf wpuld be criminals getting thwarted by gun owning citizens.
>>689597885
Yeah, so do pillows, cars, rope, deer, booze, cigarettes, shoelaces, stairs, power tools, non-power tools, knives of all kinds, flames, any sharp object, bare hands, plastic bags, and cancer.
This is only a small portion, mind you.
Hey guise, let's just ban guns like Norway and France. Surely then we will be safe from mass shootings, Norway and France never have mass shootings. R-right..?
>>689601586
Correlation does not imply causation. What if a neighborhood becomes dangerous due to gang violence then people purchase firearms to protect themselves? Just because a locale has a plethora of violence and weapons doesn't mean the weapons preceded the violence.
>>689611997
Or in this case sand niggers
>>689605755
Can you put a car in a purse or a bag and bring it in to a club and shoot 50 people to death. How about a school, a theater, or a house. Is people fighting wars by shooting cars at each other nowadays because that sounds like a good idea for an episode of top gear.
>>689602417
>because all the other countries are doing perfectly fine
If someone is committed, don't need guns to kill.
Oklahoma Bombing for example... fertilizer bomb.
Quick... BAN FERTILIZER, it kills people.
>>689611825
>Not a fantasy, the fucking truth.
How many times has this scenario happened in your life?
NONE in my 56 years. And I've been in some ghetto stores.
And you've got no statistics that will back it.
>>689603862
>cucks will try to refute this
>>689611528
>coward sissy making up excuses for why he is a massive pussy
i bet you're the one posting all those trap and cuck threads, kys.
>>689612683
Literall ise google you faggot.
>criminal stopped by gunowner
>>689611649
>south america
>no guns
>>689612030
>There a tons of vids pf wpuld be criminals getting thwarted by gun owning citizens
Bullshit.
Those are minute in comparison of how many times people are interacting with others.
>>689600906
>>689603304
>>689597885
>>689599626
Places with no water = fewer drownings
Places with no peanuts = less peanut allergy related deaths
Places with no knives = fewer stabbings
It's so fucking arbitrary to call for the removal of guns.
Remove airplanes, there'd be no airplane hijackings
Pretty shitty logic from your position too.
>>689612009
I posted the pic because YOU are the retarded instructor. derp.
>>689603862
>mfw usa participated
>mfw usa have started more war than anyone else the last 100 years
>mfw those guns were given to the people, labeled as soldiers, by the government
>mfw people worship their political leaders
>mfw usa is the most fanatic when it comes to worshiping their worthless politicians
9/11/2001, 2000+ dead
"Planes don't kill people, people kill people"
>>689597885
>>689613136
>no guys this never happens
>oh it only happens when a criminal interacts with a gun owner
>IT'S ONLY A SMALL AMOUNT OF THE TIME GUYS
That's how retarded you sound
>>689613143
So many anti-gun retards fail to understand this.
People use whatever tools are available for violence. Just because you remove one tool doesn't mean they won't find another.
I'd just like to see what would happen in america if every single non military gun was removed for 1 week.
This includes police, and illegal firearms.
I'd be willing to bet that during that week, the number of non-suicidal deaths in america would just fucking plummet
>>689612855
Again - BULLSHIT.
How many other transaction went as usual?
>>689600266
how can elephant shit kill people? are you under the elephant when it squats?
>Lets ban guns
>they wont go underground and still exist or anything.
banning guns just harms people who should have them, just make them harder to get and dont rely on backround checks
These fuckers who do mass shootings do it as their first offense, so they have clean backrounds
As an amerifag, I guess whats causing all this shit specifically in america more than anywhere else is the media. But if im wrong, id like to hear why.
>>689613136
>Those are minute in comparison of how many times people are interacting with others.
Is your point that most interactions between people don't involve guns? Are you brain damaged? This might be the stupidest thing I've read in this thread yet.
>>689597885
to be fair, the vast majority of shooting area targets are places where guns are not allowed. if people were allowed to defend themselves, these counts would be much lower.
>>689597885
A guess is a High-Score
>>689597885
and the ugly people losers that is ugly as shit and smell like Dog crap like Beyonce
>>689613639
Because there wasnt a responsible gun owner there because faggots like you tried to tell everyone we should just do away with guns.
>is this faggot serious
>>689613437
>>IT'S ONLY A SMALL AMOUNT OF THE TIME GUYS
And there's your Hero Fantasy playing out again.
>I CAN STOP IT WHEN IT [RARELY] HAPPENS
>>689613676
you're probably right.
>>689612683
Well I'm 54 so you aren't talking to kid....
You do notice that all these shootings have taken place where people most likely would not be armed.... you think this is coincidence?
Schools and a Gay bar... probably not a lot of gun owners carrying.
Now have you heard of this in a Black Club? Biker Bar? Redneck Bar? No, and you won't.
I have in fact used my weapon to stop a home invasion, only once, but who knows what would have happened. I have also used it when threatened by a methhead with a knife, and used it to kill snakes, and wild feral boars who do attack man.
Throw flowers at people if you want, but I don't live in a cushy suburb with a million police. I live in a very rural area, and cops won't get here for 20 minutes. I choose not to be a fucking victim.
I am thankful I have never shot anyone, and never plan to, but god damn man, I won't be victimized either.
>>689597885
>>689597885
Shut he fuck up, you fucking jew. Most of those are hoaxes; staged reports for the sheep who let themselves be brainwashed by the corporate media.
Cure for sand niggas
>>689598674
Like Switzerland?
>>689613878
Pointing out your paranoia.
Again.
Talk about brain damaged...
Of course, guns kill people. that's what they were invented for.
It's the people who use guns, to kill people. you just have to make sure, that not everybody can simply buy one.
You could make it dependent from police record or smth.
I don't understand why people don't just refer to guns as blankeys.
It's effectively the same thing.
>>689614006
Id rather have and not need it than need it and not have it.
That's elementary level shit
>>689614147
what did they tell you about not taking your meds.
>>689612624
Actually, fertilizer bombs are illegal. Fertilizer has a purpose other than killing people. Did you know that. I'm not a farmer but I'm smart enough to understand that fertilizer helps crops grow and not specifically made to create bombs. Did you know that? An AR-15 was specifically created to kill.
>>689614414
That if he doesnt then you are supposed to suck his cock as quickly as possible
>>689613414
Can I bring a plane into a club and kill 50 people with it? And where can I buy a plane for $1000 with a 30 round magazine. Price doesn't matter because I want to die anyway.
>>689597885
No, it's time to admit that people with guns kill more people, and that without a gun, it's very hard and takes a lot of courage to kill somebody.
op pic forgot to add all the wars fought by the USA which killed thousands
>>689614475
Preferably faggots like you
Also tyrannical governments.
Banning firearms isn't the answer. Reacting correctly/reforming our response to mental illness and more thorough background checks are.
>>689612624
Fertilizers are used to grow food you retard. Can you grow a field of soy beans with Guns?
>>689614569
you're right, a plane ticket is much cheaper than $1000 and there's less of a background check.
Your point is retarded. Like actual down syndrome
>>689614475
militaries were designed to kill and nobody wants to ban them
why not
>>689614828
>Mental illnesses like gays and trans
This guy gets it
>>689613195
So you used the tragedy of a 12 year old girl who was killed because of gun nut parents and a "responsible gun instructor" to further an agenda? I don't think so. You didn't know the story. You just hate looking like a insensitive prick when you were told the back story of how dumb hillbilly gun owners like yourself are. derp? Does that mean you won or just a 12 year old like she was. No LOL's or ROTFLMAO? You sure you don't want to get a little more childish. I'm guessing you're 16 and have never touched a pussy. Plenty of cock but no pussy.
>>689614475
I said before that there is no need for a common person to have an assault rifle.
I have a 30.06 that was made to kill deer, not people.
>>689597885
I remember when my gun grew arms and legs and rampaged.
People kill people, faggot
>>689600266
You forgot fertilizer. Everyone forget that one motherfucker that killed over 160 peeps with homemade bombs using ...that's right, fertilizer
>>689600409
This
>>689614828
>implying any of these shooters were officially diagnosed with mental illness. background checks on mental illness already exist.
>>689615177
>People kill people
guns make it so much easier. stop playing dumb.
>>689614894
What is your argument exactly. It makes no sense. Are you implying If I buy a plane ticket, I become a gun? Implying when I get on board with no weapons I can somehow bring the plane down by myself? What exactly is your malfunction you fucking retard.
>>689615174
citizens should have access to assault rifles. this will act as a deterrent to tyrannical governments' attempts at social control.
>>689615403
You're implying a gun is easier to get than a plane.
And you can do a whole lot more destruction than shoot up a club with a plane.
Pretty simple. You're like hurr durr a plane doesnt have a 30 round magazine thooo
Neither do Atomic Bombs. What is your point.
>>689615403
Lets ban planes
>>689615324
Isn't that part of the problem? That some of them weren't diagnosed and should have been?
>>689615324
"Mateen then worked for British-based security firm G4S Secure Solutions in Jupiter, Florida from September 2007 until his death.[16][30][31][32] The company said screenings of Mateen, conducted upon hiring and in 2013, had raised no red flags.[33] He held an active firearms license and an armed security guard license.[34][35] He passed a psychological test and had no criminal record."
the guy was clean; basically you cant stop it. no rules could prevent this, other than an outright ban. and that is intolerable for a free people.
>>689615526
I can shoot back just fine if I have to.
30.06, 30 30 lever action varmit rifle, and 357 magnum revolver. I don't need a 30 shot clip dude. I hit what I aim at.
>>689615706
the mental gymnastics in this exchange is frightening.
being able to own a gun is an expression of american freedom.
What's it like, as an American, knowing the rest of civilization is confounded at how stupid you sound right now?
>>689615841
if you want to castrate yourself, thats your business, not mine. i will be a strong deterrent, and you will be a less strong deterrent.
>>689613414
Planes serve a purpose moron other than killing people. It's called transportation. You've heard of transportation haven't you. An AR-15 has one purpose. To kill people. This is an old talking point. Next time you use an AR-15 to fly to Hawaii let me know. Next time an AR-15 carpools you to work, let me know. The NRA playbook no longer works when this country has a mass shooting every day. Wanna try again? I'll help you. A man used a pillow to suffocate his wife with said pillow. Let's outlaw pillows even though they weren't created to kill a person. Should we go further? A man was recently killed by a guy who punched him in the face with his fist and the man fell backwards and hit his head on the street. Let's outlaw hands and streets. Why do people need hands? Why do we need a street? Dumbfuck.
>>689615809
And how do you propose to implement that, everyone in America needs a psych evaluation?
>>689616114
What is it like to be happy with not being trusted to own a firearm?
>>689597885
>>689598674
>>689599060
>>689599471
>>689603574
>>689606216
>>689608170
nice samefag
I decided to go away from /pol/ from a little bit and find this right away
How long ago was /b/ invaded?
>>689601547
Even illegal gun was bought legally at some point shit bird. Also iv never saw someone who defends guns by saying "criminals will still get them" actually tell me how they'd get hold of one.
>>689614104
>Biker Bar?
Waco TX. Last year. Nine killed in CROSSFIRE from someone shooting 1st and panic ensuing.
I live in MO. They're trying to pass a bill no that anyone can conceal carry without a permit [or training] and you can shoot if you feel threatened.
A few months ago some knuckle head left his truck running [with a rifle in it] and somebody stole it.
He came out shooting down a highway at him. WTF? No charges brought against him. There's been unarmed people shot in town because the shoot felt threatened.
This is NOT the wild west.
I don't want myself or family hit by stray bullets or being in the target area from someone pulling a gun thinking they're gonna be the Hero.
>can't argue about home protection or killing wild animals
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>>689597885
is there a point you're trying to make other than people should arm themselves and some more gun control laws should be made?
>>689616176
the role of a (non-hunting rifle) gun is not to kill people, its to threaten to kill people. when its actually used, something has gone wrong. why dont you understand this basic point?
we preserve our freedom by being armed, not by killing people.
>>689597885
>Maybe it's time to admit that guns do kill people.
i dunno, the one in my cabinet for 2 years already didnt kill anyone yet.
>>689616427
But with that in mind? doesn't the actual attacker know, that the gun isn't a real harm to him, if the owner isn't about to shoot anyways?
he had no criminal record
he had a permit
he was employed in the security industry
he passed a psych exam
you gun control nuts are crazy. you will never stop shootings. its impossible. you just have to live with the risk. which is actually exceedingly low.
>>689613548
Gun retards fail to understand that an AR-15 was created to kill people. A stop sign was created to stop people at an intersection so cars don't collide. It's saves thousands of lives every day. Some people still run stop signs. SOME PEOPLE. Just because it's not 100% foolproof we should try? We should get rid of all stop signs because 1% of the people fail to use them? Your attempt to defend a weapon created to kill people fails.
>>689597885
Good luck getting criminals to respect your gun control laws.
>inb4 "but it works in australia!"
yeah but autralia doesn;t share hundreds of miles of land borders with anyone, especially not fuckign MEXICO and by extension latin america, one of the most violent places in the fucking world.
BUILD
IT.
>>689616176
AR-15s are used as hobbies. Cleaning, shooting, buying parts for them. It's a whole community.
So we should ban football because of the concussions right? There's no other purpose to it besides the concussions.
Also, as many people have stated previously. Guns are used for defense of property AND liberty. Not just from our government, but from foreign nations. If an invasion were to ever happen, they wouldn't get very far as nearly every citizen is armed.
>>689616212
I own a shotgun dickhead. The rest of the world has guns, we just don't sell them next to the beer and diapers.
>>689616701
militaries kill x10000 more people than spree shooters. why dont you want do disarm the world's militaries?
>>689607135
>dat pic
See a thousand titties a day on here, but for some reason this one makes me hard as a rock.
>>689616677
>he passed a psych exam
Could have been a shitty exam.
but I think, that those 4 steps are neccessary, to own a gun.
Is that the case everywhere in the US? (Eurofag here)
>>689597885
Are you fucking retarded? How does a gun kill a person? It cannot fire on its own unless acted upon by an outside force.
>Bombs Kill People
>Spoons make you fat
>TV makes you lazy
>Black people aren't a good reason to have a gun in your house.
>>689616701
the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed
Shall not be infringed
>>689616991
Lel, not sure how i ended up posting that one.
>>689603324
Sorry, anyone who commits a mass murder is a criminal. Prior record or mot.
Go back to /pol/
>>689616701
>1% of people use Armalite-15s for anything but target practice, tournaments, hunting, sporting, fun, ect.
>99% of people use them for mass murder.
Fuck off nigger.
>>689608086
> Back in the "wild west" guns were used to kill native Americans, not each other.
and right now they are used in self defense, amirite?
>>689613919
You watch to many movies. Rarely if ever does an armed citizen stop a crime. You know who stopped the shooter in the Gabby giffords shooting. An unarmed man. He waited for this asshole to reload. No gun.
>>689617064
no, it is much more than normally required. he passed many extra steps and still committed the shooting.
>shitty exam
thats a cop-out. every medical test has false-positives and false-negatives.
>>689601980
You're fucking kidding, right? This has to be bait.
>>689616828
kek, football will probably be banned in 10 years to. People want a fucking nanny state.
>>689616941
>being this delusional.
You do realize you have to get fingerprinted and go through a 10 day waiting period/background check, so no it isn't that simple.
The issue is that some people aren't flagged on the background check if they have terrorist ties or mental health issues
>>689597885
Yep, there are lots of occasions with people killing other people. Thanks for the update.
>>689617273
dont forget: almost all the gun murders in the USA are young black men shooting other young black men with pistols, anyway
>>689615177
if people kill people, then why would you give guns to people?
>>689615706
My bad misread your first post. Hard to keep track sometimes when so many replies. But still time and time again it has shown, it is easier to buy a gun, multiple guns actually and go on a massacre. And background checks did jack shit to prevent it.
>>689617635
True, most gun related deaths are suicides, not homicides, and most homicides are niggers being niggers, just fucking around in their urban jungle.
>>689598674
American scientists are still baffled about this stunning correlation.
Funny is that places with banned gun owning have more deaths than USA.
Knives kill people, that is why UK banned them.
you can do a shooting in any country with any laws by buying a black market gun. if you're motivated enough to do a shooting, why wouldnt be able to get a black market gun?
re: bataclan theatre massacre
>>689614933
WTF? Because a military defends a country? Does that work? Actually a military other than in a rational country is created to defend a nation. Unless you're places like Nazi Germany or WWII Japan. Are you taking the time to think before you post? I'm thinking not.
>>689617846
>fewer gun deaths
Not fewer deaths
Criminals will find a way
>>689617846
actually, last night i did some correlations showing places with more gun stores have fewer murders. solve that one.
>>689601065
>Thinking that the Federal government is the only government we need to deal with, or is even the primary concern
Ok, I know European socialists are used to sucking centrally-planned cock but your point is laughable oversimplified. I know it makes it easier to say Ban Muh Automatic Babykillers though.
>>689598674
>Gun deaths
>Not homicides
>Most gun deaths (more than half) are suicides
>Most gun HOMICIDES are niggers attacking eachother
>less than 2% of all homicides are actually mass murders.
>Being this much of a faggot not to realize that a shit ton of countries where statistics come from for comparison are either MUCH smaller than the states or don't have such a high number of fucking niggers.
>>689617505
the problem is less than 1% of all applications are denied. That sounds like its a forgone conclusion you will be getting a gun.
>>689617333
Ok. Interesting. Do you americans actually think, that those requirements would be a problem?
I mean, people with a normal mind and a valid reason to use it, could still get a gun. It just becomes harder for criminals to get one.
>every medical test has false-positives and false-negatives
Of course. I fully agree. I was just saying, that a really good psych-exam could have possibly changed it a bit but yea. every statistic has mistakes in it.
>>689615177
You're right. It's not the gun committing the act. But the gun makes the act so much easier.
>>689618132
yeah, like the usa military drone program. thats defensive. it spends all its time blowing people up on the other side of planet earth. very defensive, very non-lethal. why not ban that?
>>689601065
I mean, when it comes down to it, nobody wants to fuck with America right now except for people who have no "country" essentially, if Russia were to Red Dawn our asses we'd fuck them sideways just with our own weapons, then the army would come in and assrape them to death.
>inb4 planes
>Nigger people have Anti-Tank weapons, and some even have Anti-Air weapons
>For fucking fun.
>>689618286
Usually people know that they aren't qualified to buy a gun so they don't try. Convicted felons usually won't be trying to buy a gun.
Hey, North Korea has strict gun control. It's a good thing those people have no means to defend themselves, right fellow liberals?
>inb4 krautfag hilarious claims it can't happen in MY country
>>689618136
That is not true what so ever. Illegal guns or weapons are much more expensive and harder to get meaning not every nigger in Chicago could get one. Fucking tired of this point being said.
>>689616701
I don't understand your argument. The AR-15 was never mentioned. What do stop signs have to do with guns or gun control? They are completely unrelated. And you didn't even address the original point. Which is that it's obvious that a place with more guns has more gun deaths. People get hung up on "gun deaths" while not understanding that murder and violent crime rates don't drop with the removal of guns.
>>689618637
>harder to get
what if they are stolen?
I've yet to hear anyone explain how gun control actually makes them safer
>guns are legal
>you're a fag, so you don't bother to carry
>urban youth pulls a gun on you and robs you
>guns are banned
>you're still a fag, but now you couldn't carry a gun even if you wanted to
>urban youth pulls a knife and robs you
>>689597885
9/11 world trade centers... No guns.... Fuck off
"loopholes" and "automatic assault weapons" count for like 1% of all of these incidents.
So either Liberals want to just 2nd second amendment, or they are simply more retarded than previously though.
>>689618338
the main concern is incremental changes. people are worried that each additional safeguard is merely another step towards an overall ban. we worry about this because our anti-gun opponents have already told us that they want an outright ban. and pro-gun people know that the risk of being killed in a shooting is vanishingly small. more likely to get killed on the way to work, or by lightning, or by anything.
but progressives are easily distracted by certain issues, this being one of them.
>>689618637
It's way easier for a criminal to buy a gun at a street corner in Chicago than to legally buy one at a gun store (which don't exist in Chicago), you retarded faggot
>>689597885
>>689618804
>Urban Youth pulls out a gun
>I pull out my gun
>We compliment each other's gun choices
>Go our separate ways
>Turn around and shoot him in the spine because I thought it would be funny.
>It was.
>>689597885
Gun don't just go off. They are fired when a person pulls the trigger. People kill people, you see? Not guns. If guns did not exist, people would still kill people with bows and knives and shit. Your logic is nonexistent and I feel sorry for your mother.
>>689618795
Stolen from where retard? Also even if any are stolen there would be less guns than if most people over 18 could just buy them.
>>689618804
Way to fail the argument. In the guns are banned scenario, "urban youth" still pulls a gun, not a knife.
>>689597885
Can we just acknowledge the system in it's current form is broken and needs fix. Mass shootings are becoming far too common. Very heart broken to see so many Americans dying to senseless violence.
>>689618637
Actually, I could purchase a Glock for $150 on the darkweb (I've fucking checked.) or I could go to a store and purchase the same one for $350, with some taxes, and other shit tacked on.
>The people who were selling offered delivery too
>They're very trustworthy individuals
>Mobsters but cool guys who just wanna do business
>You don't shoot your customers because then you won't get more business if word gets out.
>Simple logic/business.
>>689619190
even one is "too common." that being said, they're so rare that it shouldnt be a concern. diabetes kills thousands of people every day. no one trying to ban overeating. you're really dumb.
>>689619070
Not the point, if you're to pussy to carry a gun because "people might think i have a small weewee", your not going to defend yourself no matter that they have, be it gun or knife.
>>689619190
Ok Obama. Let's just keep saying that and then nothing happens.
>>689618880
Where do you think the street corner guy would get them. FFS almost all guns can be linked to a gun store in the US. Its not like the guy on the street is getting his guns strait from the North Korean government.
>>689616283
>What is deep web
>What is any fucking nigger ghetto
>What is any redneck trailer park
>What is that stupid fuck trying to sell a fullyautomatic tech nine on your local facebook buy, sell and trade page.
>What is grandfather law with firearms passed down un-registered for years
>What is border-hopping shit skins
You'd have to be a braindead retard not to know how to buy a gun that isn't from a fucking pawnshop. Please do us all a favor and choke yourself to death on the nearest nigger cock you liberal cuck.
>>689618849
Alright. Nice to hear this. Hear in Germany, we only hear that there is one mass-shooting after the other in US and A
>>689619411
Full of shit
>>689619411
if you get pulled over and they run the serial # on your $150 glock you might be in some hot water link mah boy! and if it doesnt have serial number youll still be in trouble mah boy!
>>689619411
>purchase a glock on the darkweb
You mean backpage you edgleord.
>for 150$
>glock
pic related, (you)
>>689619190
>Let's slap a band-aid on the problem and fixate like autists on the tool people are using rather than figuring out what motivates mass shooters and trying to address the root of the problem
Protip: Society is a rotten shitheap, so the most marginalized attack "society" as best they think they can
>>689617635
Then nothing of value was lost.
>>689619601
what you should be hearing about is black people shooting each other daily over twitter feuds.
>>689618637
>getting real sick with the problem in my claim being pointed out.
Also how is it Switzerland has all those guns and no gun violence?
>>689619440
Holy shit ban on diabetic. Can you ban old age too.
>>689619623
Nice logic, you've solved the gun problem, anon. Now we just need a public awareness campaign to tell the niggers that are shooting up Chicago that their unregistered weapons will cause them problems when they're arrested for murder
>>689619673
>figuring out what motivates mass shooters and trying to address the root of the problem
Because it's easier to blame pieces of metal than certain types of people who will get hurt feelings.
>Hurt feelings>constitutional amendment
>>689611825
>unregistered guns
Stopped reading right there fampai.
>>689608086
not true at all. There was a post civil war period of somewhat lackadaisical law enforcement. This absolutely happened. And it actually happened in Kansas/Missouri prior to the Civil War. So, you are incorrect. Your whole post reads like it was written by a 14 year old.
this entire thread
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>>689620037
Just wait till their government caves and starts letting hundreds of thousands of refugee leeches in.
>>689618849
Also, here in Germany, people are like really retarded, concerning guns.
Personally, I was raised in a normal family, my dad's a hunter, so I was raised with gun security.
But other germans (progressives) act, as if guns would be like ultimate death machines, that instantly kill everyone in a radius of 10km.
Those progressives are fucking up germany anyway..
Their latest masterpiece:
As you may or may not know, there is the European football/soccer Championship right now. The progressives said, that we should make a law, to forbid showing our own flag during those events, because "it would lead to patriotism and that would lead to nationalism"
like: FFS MATE?!
>>689620263
It's more like a bucket of chum thrown in the Amazon to the piranha, tbh
>>689616203
Better public school counselors. And HR training to identify psychos. Those two wouldn't be a bad start. Plus maybe an evaluation for anyone trying to purchase specific weaponry
>>689619411
Wow so banning guns would not lower the amount of guns bought by criminals, because we all know everyone knows how to use the darkweb. I'm not saying not everyone can't get a gun but saying there is no point because criminals will find a way is stupid.
>>689616578
An oven cooks. You could say "I cooked a Turkey." and no one bats an eye. But the oven does cook. That is the oven's purpose. It's not literal, it's a statement about the design of the object in question.
>>689620378
Don't worry, American Nationalism is starting to be demonized as well so we can enjoy our misery together!
>>689620378
i dont understand how cultural suicide has become so popular in intellectual and political groups. i share your outrage, deutsche fam.
