Guns don't kill people People kill people Okey america
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Guns don't kill people
People kill people
Okey america
>>689570289
Guns make people killing people easier.
1 person with a gun can kill alot of people in a shopping mall
1 person with a knife can kill 1-2 and hurt 1-3 before being subdued. Good chance that they don't die from the wounds aswell.
>>689570289
roll
Then why are there close to zero shooting massacres in Switzerland?
>>689570289
>someone on twitter said it
>it must be true
Your generation is fucked.
>>689570481
Shut up
The national knife association has everyone bought in this place
>>689570481
Tell that to Paris.
Shit son, are you telling me that if we make things illegal, they go away? we should make Weed illegal, and maybe meth! think of the good we could do!
The only purpose of guns is to kill someone.
>>689571087
how many mass shootings has there been since?
>>689570937
Because they dont give everyone ssri pills like america
>>689570598
>arguments by an 8-year old failed special ed "spudent"
>>689571165
we should make mexicans illegal........ oh they already are
>>689571087
What case are you mentioning about Paris ?
>>689570598
kinda goofy but kek
you could have done funnier and more sources son
>>689571032
that doesn't make it wrong either, the only thing to do it to prove it right or wrong.
>>689571347
Nah, there are Mexicans in the USA, if they were illegal, they wouldn't be here. If something is illegal it goes away
If every other rich Western country had the same population as the USA, the maximum any of them would have is 5 gun deaths a day. The USA has 27.
Those other nations have various levels of higher gun control laws.
It's pretty clear than guns kill people; drunken arguments that would end in a fist fight end in a shooting instead because we have too many guns.
WHY ARE THERE SHOOTIGS EVERDAY INSWEDEN WHEN GUNS ARE BANNED?
>>689570481
Guns don't kill people, uh-uh
I kill people, with guns
>>689571766
Women are stupid and I dont respect them
Thats right, I just have sex with them
>>689570289
>>689570289
guns dont kill people...its those little metal things that come flying out of guns really fast,thaat kill people...
>>689570598
>Guns are illegal
>Suddenly, every gun in the US just vaporizes into fucking thin air
>All the guns on their way across the border turn into a gray mist as they rise to the sky in a cloud of dust
>Literally no guns left
>Why the fuck did we not think of this first, it worked perfectly for drugs
Reality:
>Guns are illegal
>Niggers/spics/muslims/white criminals still get guns
>Normal, law abiding citizens no longer have guns
>Robbery just got a lot easier
>PERFECT LOGIC
![CS6wZrDVEAAB2Mp[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/TxyzBKa.jpg "CS6wZrDVEAAB2Mp[1].jpg")
>>689570289
dont even bother.........murrica will never give up guns, its in their fecking constitution!
america had the equivalent of a mass shooting for every day of the year in 2015. I think theyre beyond help now
If the killing of little children at sandy hook didnt cause change then nothing ever will, certainly not 50 homos even if it was by a muslim
>>689571891
The Swiss don't keep military grade weapons at home, though.
>>689570937
Ha! Ok, you want to compare it to Switzerland? The problem people there are the army. They have national service. They respect their fellow citizens, regardless of race or religion. Americans have ZERO respect for their citizens, tensions rise and they end up killing each other, like and 3rd world country. And no 3rd world country should have access to guns.
>only 2 people need to be injured for an attack to be considered a "mass shooting" in the states
>>689570289
UK doesnt have 30 million niggers and 50 million mexiniggers shooting each other every other day
>>689570481
>Good chance that they don't die from the wounds aswell
not true at all
knife wounds are worse than many gunshot wounds, if you compare based on location
>>689572129
yes we do
with ammo. if you're higher than a caporal, tradition is you steal grenades and special ammo from the reserve
>>689572047
>>689572047
>not realizing two bodies, even a homicide - suicide, is defined as a mass shooting
I guess every country has mass murders every day too, not just the US
>>689572129
> autism speaks
>What is a Sig550
>>689572129
A military grade weapon and a regular long gun can both kill someone. There's no difference.
I wonder how many bombings the UK has had.
>>689572129
Are you stupid? Everyone has Thier own assault gun that they had since the mandatory military service
>>689572239
Underrated post.
>>689571610
Surprisingly, if you want gun crime to drop, legalize or decriminlize drugs. This is where the majority of gun violence comes from
>>689570289
nukes dont kill people
people kill people
legalize nukes?
Your logic is not sound, obviously they weapon used matters.
>>689572685
Yup. You raise a good point. Unlike the US, the UK knows what real terrorism is. US had a couple of buildings fall over and they think they are hardened. I would rather be kidnapped by ISIL than the IRA.
>>689572129
Whats military grade?
>>689572529
>>689572260
these
>>689572371
and this
>>689572046
and of course this
America will NEVER ban any guns or change its constitution cause its too fucking late to do so, if the laws got changed everyone would run out to get whatever guns they could and hold onto the ones they already own
While we're at it, why don't we ban cars for drunk driving accidents, or E-mail servers for every time people abuse them?
>>689570937
Conscription and discipline
>>689572046
Did you even read the thing ?
Guns are legally made then they're illegal when sold in the black market, when they're either stolen or bring from another country. Bringing the production of guns would make less illegal guns. It's up to the government to purge the country from crime, not to "deal with it" because it exists.
Drugs are different, they're also imported by many of them can be chemically some of them can even be made by a student in chemistry, same goes for liquors (moonshiners etc )
>>689570289
here's your (you), fucking nigger
>>689573215
Buzz word to make him feel informed
>>689572529
I thought a shooting was considered a mass shootings from 5+ people. Otherwise, there'd be 40 mass shootings a day in the US.
>>689572047
>>689572499
>>689571988
>>689571874
>>689570289
samefag
>>689573291
Why don't we let everyone have misses and tanks too? They don't kill people either without a person right?
>>689573348
>drugs can be made
>guns cant
Lol
we just have to build a really big wall
all our problems will be solved
>>689570289
better take the guns away from cops then, since terrorists can just be talked down with words apparently
>>689573291
> comparing objects literally made to kill to unintentionnal accidents between cars because people can't follow the damn train.
they should ban you for being so stupid
>>689573348
Tl;dr
Suck a dick
>>689570289
Good for you? How about you go ahead and compare how many murders there were in the UK in history.
Fucking millenial moron.
>>689573496
No it is a loosely defined term, can be 4 can be three, can be 2
>>689573534
I believe everyone should have access to military grade weapons and tanks. What if the army guys turn against us? We need to be able to protect us.
Brits are people?
>>689570481
We should ban knives too while we're at it...
/s
>>689570289
1 person with many guns can kill a lot of people.
many guns with 1 person can kill a lot of people
many guns with no people can kill no people.
People kill people
Factually true, I just irrefutably proved it, the issue is literally not even open to debate.
>>689573534
You can buy a tank in america, the gun is disabled but you can still own one
Guns aren't the real problem, the real problem is that American culture & society doesn't value human life.
>>689573496
The Federal Bureau of Investigation uses the term "mass killings", originally defined as the murder of four or more people with no cooling off period but redefined by Congress in 2013 as including murder of three or more people.
>>689570481
T. Fiveyearold
>>689573573
lol
Unless you have a whole factory, go ahead, make me an ak-47 from scratch please.
>>689573686
mods should ban you for being so dangerous
>>689573928
More guns = more gun deaths
They are both problems
>>689573928
>implying human life has any "value"
So if someone wants to kill people in a no-guns country they'd probably have to use not-guns. So why are people fron no-guns countries talking about the number of shooting massacres in their country?
TODAY I GOT AIDS ZERO TIMES. Yeah, cause you sat in your room and didn't talk to anybody.
Even if you banned guns now in america, it wouldn't take massive fucking amount of guns off the streets that aren't legal/registered. All you're left with is disarmed civilians and armed criminals who dont care about laws.
>>689573522
>samefag
>people who share the same opinion that OP is a faggot are the same
>are we all the same?
eat a dick, chode master
>>689573980
Wikipedo says 4 or more
"A mass shooting is an incident involving multiple victims of gun violence.[1] The United States' Congressional Research Service acknowledges that there is not a broadly accepted definition,[2] and uses a definition of a "public mass shooting"[3] if four or more people selected indiscriminately, not including the perpetrator, are killed, echoing the FBI definition"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_shooting
>>689574121
made my point tbh
>>689573852
Illegal aliens can kill people
Aliens have never killed anyone
Make illegal aliens legal so they are aliens and don't kill anyone.
This is not up for debate.
>>689570289
The UK also doesn't have over 40 million niggers
>>689574094
>ak 47
Lol
Here is a sten i could make at home
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/08/12/diy-sten-gun/
>>689574094
Why hello there reddit
>>689573649
A sane society arms it's Police not the terrorist with an legally purchased assault rifle. Why is it so difficult to understand?
>hurr hurr ban guns
>criminals no have guns if you ban!
sure, its not like thousands of illegal firearms aren't smuggled into the US or anything right
>>689573928
This is actually true, but let's not USA-shame the shit out of the country, the entire world is quite ignorant on the subject.
But it does relate to a country to another, giving the good explanation to this
>>689571891
>>689574295
>implying I am american
>>689574404
>>689574121
It does, you could translate it into currency even. You destroy everything they were going to do
>>689570598
>if nobody can have a gun, you wouldn't ever need a gun
>every gun is legally made and then smuggled around.
Fucking top kek this is satire at its finest.
>>689574197
It's this simple. There are too many guns already. Nothing will fix that if you perceive that as a problem. US is far different than any other country. Too much diversity if you ask me.
>>689573348
you're dumb
>>689570289
Guns don’t kill people, we are all immortal souls living temporarily in shelters of earth and meat.
>>689570481
You're an idiot
>>689570289
IIT
Logical fallacies on both sides
>>689570289
Guns don’t kill people, blood loss and organ damage does
>>689570289
A list of things that kill people: 1. Conceivably, anything. 2. Not guns.
>>689570598
This isn't a YLYL
>>689571087
That was one well planned mass shooting done by a group of people that was their first in a long, long time.
The other day 50 people died because some dude, who had previously been under federal investigation, was able to purchase a gun in less then a week and then walk into a tightly packed, dark, public place and start shooting. How many people died in Paris?
>>689574356
> comparing this shit to an ak-47
not what I was expecting, funny
can you kill like a cat or an ant with this ?
>>689570289
If you say guns kill people one more time, we will shoot you with a gun, and you will, coincidentally, die.
>>689574749
Your* dumb. Dumbass
>>689574622
>implying no one else will take their place in serving the 1%
>>689574447
I think we should make it so they do it illegally so its harder, rather than just let them do it. Youre saying dont fight, its useless
As much as I am for gun control, and as much as an Amerifag is against it, it still won't change a thing. Guns are just too ingrained into US culture. The Constitution will be changed, and even if there's a vote held, it won't even come close to winning. Just how things are, OP, you have to accept it.
>>689574129
You might not have AIDS but your post makes no sense and gave me cancer.
>>689574911
this bait never catches, friend
>>689574322
Illegal aliens by definition are not legal, therefore your argument is null and void.
Factually true, I just irrefutably proved it, the issue is literally not even open to debate.
>>689573348
cause that worked so well for paris
>>689574911
your is short for you're retard
>>689572239
So what you're saying is guns aren't the problem--people are responsible for their actions. That's the most intelligent thing you've said all day
Going by your attempt at logic OP we can safely say that your brain doesn't function like the rest of the species. The left side of your brain is dead and you're fucking retarded. The manner which you put your words shows me that you tap enter like a mindless monkey swinging his arms in the forest. Should be obvious even to a retard that guns don't kill people. There's no easy way out of the mess you're in. You can't ban weapons and expect anything getting better. You lost many freedoms since 9/11, all the rights and privileges you lost, did it get better? Obviously not, since you want to ban more fucking shit.
>Muh Orlando gay bar shooting
Isis did that. You let Isis in your country and you don't give VISA to harmless hardworking people from other countries and you let savages from the south border run into your country. You want to ban guns because your government let violent people in your country? The bomb killed more when it exploded. So you might as well ban all basic substances to make a working bomb. Ban wires, ban batteries, ban cleaning ingredients.
>>689574267
wikipedia isnt a court system autist
>>689574129
yeah but at the same time there were no massacres of any kind in the UK since monday...
In fact the last one was over 6 years ago, and then before that it was 11 years ago, and another one about 19 years ago, another one about 29 years ago... you get the picture... not many massacres of any kind... it's not a difficult concept.
>>689570937
There aren't any niggers.
Wakeup you fucking faggots. It doesn't matter what government system you have. Whites and Asians will thrive. Niggers collapse any society.
>>689574902
>lol sten is silly
>used in ww2
>killed plenty of people
>manufactured because it was cheap and easy
Listen, show me how you can make vodka or beer the same quality as corporate made without the tools, and ill show you how to make an ak without the tools. The point is, you can make guns easy
>>689574919
Not implying that. That is what will happen. It depends on what you define as expendable at that point
>>689572129
You do keep a gun and a bit of ammo so you can fight your way to closest armory. At least that's what I've heard.
The thing is, they're not carried around and there's this thing called "background check"
>>689570289
>uk guns fire all on their own
>>689574902
he couldve told you he could make a barret 50.cal and you still wouldve said that. your being far too picky.
>>689575208
>a court system autist
what's that? the guy that remembers every word uttered during sessions?
>>689571655
Citation needed.
>>689574622
>implying currency has any "value".
>>689573151
Yeah but the thing is nukes are not mass distributed to almost every corner of the country like guns are to the point that we can't do anything about it.
>>689571891
a wonderful picture saved for future use! Thank you!
>>689574267
>Wikipedia
Lol, seriously nigga
>>689575401
whats that? wikipedia can be changed by autsistic retards like yourself.you shouldve learned that in your shit education.
>>689571891
90% of Honduras are mixed race.
Switzerland is less than 6% nigger.
>stop blaming islam, it's a religion of peace!
>it's the guns, no it's trump...no it's the radical right!, not it's etc..
>thousands of gays are killed by muslim police and persons of power in dozens of muslim controlled societies
why are the progressive left trying to defend a group of people that want them thrown off roofs?
>>689575270
>>689575356
Okay, I give you that. Totally. I cannot answer against this argument and I will not call you a faggot as a loophole
So what, now that guns are omnipresent, what are your solutions ?
Give everyone a gun "for safety purpose" ?
>>689573854
>the gun is disable
and there's your problem!
>>689570481
>Osaka school massacre
all fatalities were kids
Seriously injured several adults
America is wrong when it comes to their gun laws. They are just to arrogant and scared, yes scared to accept it
>>689575066
Yup. And American is not ready for that responsibility
>>689574267
>Wikipedia
Directly into the trash
>>689575066
Yes, and since the US can't quite measure up to the Swiss, their gun privileges need to be toned down.
See? You get it.
>>689575429
It does. That is what im implying
>>689574112
Serbia has only 30% fewer guns per capita than the USA, but their homicide rate is 65% lower. Switzerland has half the guns per capita, and 1/10th the homicide rate.
Yes, the US should certainly control their guns more if they want less people to die, but the lack of gun control is just a symptom of the systemic disregard for the dignity of human life.
moot is lefty?
>>689575705
Because "muh multiculturalism"
>>689571891
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Switzerland
They are forced into the military and taught respect for those that disagree. In America we say fuck you for having an opinion like 4chan.
>>689575749
Actually my answer is conscription
>>689572046
uhh... guns were legal in the UK up until the 90's... where are the guns now? gone.
>>689571489
Bombs
>>689575749
more screening for gun owndership no selling them at gun shows background checks manditory and renewing of license (requiring a new background check and update on your life ) every 3 years mandatory. if a gun is not registered this often you can possibly go to prison. im not good with punishment and obviously im biased. id let the courts decide.
do you not realize how big the US is, ONE of our states is 3x the size of your entire country
>>689575952
Again, sourcing Wikipedia is not helping your shit argument.
>>689575966
conscription is against right for freedom
>>689574572
It's "racist", being able to spell is a sign of intelligence. Enough said.
>>689574902
You ask for gun you get gun geyboi
>>689570289
Switzerland, 44 guns per 100 citizens.
Lowest crime rate in the world.
Honduras, guns are not permitted to be bought or had.
Highest crime rate in the world.
>>689575927
> implying "muh culturalism" is the reason we understand other countries
You've never been to college faggot hahahah what is sociology what is anthropology and are political sciences
>>689576077
also there are more guns in america than americans. there are more bullets than americans in texas alone
>>689576078
Wikipedia is pretty reliable--and sauced, if your ass is too precious for it
>>689575952
Yes. It's called tolerance. You have none, neither do ISIS. You are the same.
>>689574572
If everyone needs a gun to protect themselves, then why is it always the Police that take out the terrorist? And it's racist, dumb ass
>>689572405
Source, link?
>>689576226
>>689576290
>Wikipedia is pretty reliable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OZIOE6aMBk
>>689576396
because a majority of citizens dont bring guns to illegal places. are you really this stupid?
>>689576077
Dubs of truth. I love how people conviently forget that the united states is about the size of the U.K to syria
People don't guns kill
Kill guns kill
Okey America
>>689576433
Well it is. And sourced, if you want to check the claims made there yourself.
>>689575802
Your logic is on par with kindiegarten teachers
>>689570289
Guns don't kill people
America kills people
FTFY
>>689576433
godwins law
it is accurate
>>689576702
It is correct real world logic
>>689576409
talking to medfags
you look it up
or just think about it
bullets are sterile from the heat, and partially cauterize the wound from the heat
knives are usually dirty as fuck and leave a pretty nasty edge that doesn't heal well
most pistol rounds will penetrate about the same depth as a common knife, so that part is similar
it all depends where you get hit, but either one will kill you if it's a vital blood vessel or organ
>>689573348
This post is nearly unintelligible. Please read this shit over, I bet you can't even tell what you were trying to say.
>>689570598
"If nobody had a gun, you wouldn't need a gun...."
Yep, because being murdered by a big burly dude with a baseball bat doesn't count as "murder".....
Fucking dipshit liberal.
>>689576870
Some a
Therefore all a
That's the logic and you're a fucking moron for believing it
>>689576218
>swiss are Europeans
>Hondurans are beaners
>thinking they're comparable
>>689576957
faggot, we didn't have a murder problem until some assholes made the guns!
We just need to make guns illegal like stealing, drug use and killing others. that will stop the problem.
#clintonforprez
>>689573522
choke on many dicks retard
>>689577205
0/10 paintshop. I can tell from the pizals and stuff and whatnot
>>689577130
I dont understand your little diagram because of how oversimplified it is.
The swiss do good with guns, they can keep guns I guess, which I disagree with.
The US does bad with guns, loses its privelage
>>689576541
So they protect themselves by leaving these guns at home. Of course. Except the fucking nutters who being smart use them to slaughter people. Ah I see. It all makes sense now. So everyone needs a gun to protect themselves from the Police.? Got it. How dumb of the majority of the western world to leave the assault rifles in the hands on specially trained people employed to protect them. What dumb asses we all are.
>>689570289
good point, valid argument, totally original. Except Americans arent faggots who are afraid of guns (well some of them are). Imagine a world with no guns, wheres the fun in that? Guns are cool. Shooting is a fun sport. Target shooting, clay pidgeons, shooting just for the hell of it. Go to a shooting range, its fun as fuck. And hey, if everyone has a gun, everyone is on equal ground... Two guys with knives, two guys with guns, it evens out.
>>689570289
A gun is simply a tool, on its own it is no more dangerous than a rock or a branch, but when wielded with ill intent it is a dangerous weapon, just like a rock or a branch. So, yes, the saying is correct. Guns don't kill people, people kill people.
>>689577400
so if the us learns to do good with guns, we can keep'em? Please?
>>689570289
The UK hasn't won a single war since 1849, America has won 7! zomg. stupid cunt.
>>689576957
Then get a fucking bat. Guns are just too over powered for the loose regulations that exist
>>689575259
this. just look at france... the niggers and their raghead brothers are lighting up paris almost every year
>>689577205
>bollywood-home
>>689570289
america kill people
>>689577394
you were dropped alot on your head as a baby..huh anon? i can tell from your faggotness and whatnot
>>689570481
Okay, but the 9/11 hijackers did what they did with box cutters...
>>689577425
>all people put in positions of power and control are good. I don't give a fuck, calling 911 does not instantly stop the crime or prevent said criminal from using deadly force against me or someone else.
if someone was coming after you will a pistol do you reach for your phone or reach for your gun?
>>689570289
>ignoring all the knife attacks in the UK
propaganda whore
>>689577645
pussy
cute opinions. I have many guns and there's nothing you can do about it. mad?
>>689577735
i know right?? i like to get into them musical numbers and shit...it beats anime...
>>689573348
>Guns can only be made by arms factories
>People cannot figure out how to create something like a firearm
>yfw: this thing is called a "Chechnyan Firecracker", and is a firearm built by an illiterate muslim in a third-world country garage out of scrap laying around...
>but, if we ban guns, nobody will have guns and nobody will need guns, because the Democrats told me so....
>>689577591
You mock my scope of things in relation to my power with nonsense. That is what would happen though.
>>689577754
And a huge machine deadlier than any handheld gun
Here's a argument I got into with a bunch of Feminazi Extreme Left Wingers. Thought it was pretty funny.
who actually needs an assault rifle though? Handguns, shotguns, hunting rifles? Sure, I can get behind that. But assault rifles? There isn't really an argument for them.
>>689577864
As long as you arent prone to gun violence I am satisfied.
>>689577761
In my country we don't legally arm nutters with assault rifles , so the chances of that are slim. So what if he has 100 rounds and an assault rifle. You need an automatic and 200. Don't you think it's dumb arming yourself to protect yourself against legally purchased guns.
>>689578185
I'm only prone to violence if someone tries to cause me harm.
I love this imaginary scenario where "if they had guns they could have stopped him"
Like, what fucking world do you live in where the majority of people walk around nightclubs and theaters armed and ready? Why would you ever want that? That's a fucking disaster waiting to happen. Imagine every stupid ,belligerent fucking moron you know walking around carrying a gun at all times. It'd be havoc. Everyday arguments would end in gunshots instead of broken jawbones. Atlanta traffic would be a bulletstorm every morning.
Even in the 1 in 100,000,000 chance you're one of the people on site at a mass shooting, do you really think you're going to be the one to stop them without swat-level training or accidentally shooting someone else in the process?
>>689577943
Proving once again that even the stupidest illiterate muslim is still smarter than the average american.
>>689578128
>must gun controlled city
>full of niggers
>surprised by amount of crime/deaths.
Yes, because people who want to commit murder will follow the law. "OH NO, GUNS ARE ILLEGAL, I GUESS I CAN'T KILL PEOPLE NOW!" Look at the war on drugs and see how well that is going, bud.
>>689578183
alien invasion..duh..
>>689577943
So they should be even easier to aquire than that?
Less guns equals less gun death
>>689578128
tl;dr not funny
>>689574094
Apparently you've never seen Shovel AK. Yes, you can build an AK47 out of a shovel.
http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/threads/179192-DIY-Shovel-AK-photo-tsunami-warning!
>>689572129
>Military grade
Are you fucking stupid? Neither do most americans. You have to go through a vigorous background check to even get a Combat Ready Rifle. By the tike you get it, it would have been like two years since you applied for the check. Git outta here noguns.
>>689578337
hey leave the mexicans out of this
>>689576100
>can't refute the hypocritical idiocy that is liberal leftist policy
>just attacks the purposefully misspelled word instead.
gg faggot anon.
>>689578007
Giraffes are closet cannibals
yes
>>689570289
I honest th I k this goes back to people not getting an education. If you're going to at least have guns you can buy from a cpunter. Children need to be taught the consequences and danger of using them
This incident happened just hours before Sandy Hook....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chenpeng_Village_Primary_School_stabbing
But, of course, it's the AR15 rifle that's the problem, right?
>pic related: according to Liberals, is an AR15.
>>689578301
/thread
>>689578440
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zXDo4dL7SU
i meant the OTHER ones
>>689578312
Drugs are different. Good point though.
Its not about banning guns, its about lowering the amount that gets into criminal hands
>>689570289
BACK TO BACK WORLD WAR CHAMPS
REST OF THE WORLD, ARE YOU EVEN TRYING??
guys guns dont kill people, people kill people
so i just figured out how to achieve world peace
eliminate all people
leave the guns
problem solved
Actually on that twitter post, one of them said we should do a "gradual process" to remove all firearms from the U.S.
>>689578594
>deaths: 0
Yes, the AR15 rifle is a much more efficient killing machine than a kitchen knife
>>689578682
>Its not about banning guns, its about lowering the amount that gets into criminal hands
That's what they want you plebs to believe, but make no mistake the government wants more than anything to disarm the public.
>>689570289
Mainly the principal of not having the government to continue to take freedoms away from law abiding citizens.
Oversized, overpowered government feeding itself. From citizen taxes.
No. A gun cannot be the cause.
People are not understanding of what an assault rifle really is.
AR 15 is not. AR15 is mechanically the same as other semi automatic rifles.
Just has the added stuff for popular looks.
Like adding sunroof and rims to a ride.
Don't let our government be like so many others that got too overpowered. Don't take or control how someone accessorizes their own personal property.
>>689578888
>checked
I actually don't think ALL guns should be taken away. Maybe ownership of assault rifles should be restricted. Maybe don't sell AR-15s at Walmart. There's so much small things that could be done that would make a big difference.
>>689575401
Top kek
>>689578594
0 deaths
With a gun you have so much range, how could you compare a knife attack with a gun attack. People kill, its an eternal truth, so stop giving guns to people and they are stuck with sharp steel
>>689570289
>Guns don't kill people
Sounds right. The US has the most guns per capita, and a respectably low homicide rate (considering almost all homicides are committed by minorities against minorities). If guns were responsible for homicides, the rate would be much homicide higher in the US.
>>689575254
Not really. Largely I think your government has a vested interest in covering up violent incidents, probably because they'd make people want to defend themselves. Frankly I don't believe there's less human suffering as a result of this no-gun position, weapons of any sort seem to have no bearing on the amount of violence in a country, it seems to me that poverty, mental health issues and various cultural elements come into it a lot more.
Just makes me think your would-be "mass killings" are converted to other types of crime and other types of suffering, then when they do happen they're probably covered up. I mean, look at your behavior, obviously your government has a vested interest in you being able to behave this way and take yourself seriously. They have you engaged in unabashed nationalism, what could be better for them?
The only countries that have actually, genuinely tried to improve the human condition are the same northern european mainland countries that are being cucked to death right now by immigrants due to their own idealistic policies and outlook. This is why the Right is Right.
Anyway it's not like you'll see headlines like "UK ignores serious organized crime problem for 25th year in a row" or "Japan doesn't care that the Japanese aren't happy".
>>689577761
So I accept if the purpose of a legally held pistol is self protection. Who needs an assault weapon and 500 rounds of ammunition. Who's expecting roaming swarms of zombies to pop in for tea?
lol at all these people believing obvious propaganda
no "mass shootings" have ever taken place
no one is in any danger
its all fake news and propaganda by the corporations who own the media
and who owns those corporations?
the jews
wake up america
Source on that graph?
>>689570289
but the flaw with gun control is the murder rate doesn't go down. If people want to kill then people will find a way
>>689571891
>pic related
If the general population of the US lived by the intentions of the 2nd amendment, everyone would be armed with military-style weaponry.
>>689570289
If guns kill people, planes do 9/11
Ban all planes
>>689570481
>1 person with a gun can kill alot of people in a shopping mall
Only if the others are gunless
If they have guns themselves then it's 1-2 just like with the knife
>>689578349
>Less guns equals less gun deaths
Then explain to me exactly why we have NOT seen this, AT ALL, in the entire world.... Explain to me why high gun control areas are riddled with crime and violence, whilst high gun ownership areas are significantly LOWER in crime and violence....
Oh, and before you answer, don't settle with just "gun crime", as places like Australia and England admittedly have less gun crime, but they still have a far higher crime rate than comparable countries when you account for crime with non-firearm weapons.....
By the way, in the US, blunt objects (bats, hammers, FISTS) were used in more murders than firearms were.... But, of course, baseball bats aren't the problem, the 1% of gun crime (rifles) is....
The fact of the matter is: MORE guns, in the hands of honest citizens, equals LESS crime, as a criminal is less likely to commit petty crime if there is a high probability of them not surviving it... This is called "deterrent"...
FEWER guns (by the way, it's 'fewer' if you can count the subject, 'less' when talking about volume or something intangible) in the hands of honest citizens means MORE crime, as criminals DON'T OBEY THE FUCKING LAW, and will do what they need to do in order to gain an ADVANTAGE over their victims.......
Guys, if we wanted to bring the murder rate down, lets just make murder legal.
>>689570289
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=uk+violent+crime+rates
109.96 violent crimes per 1000 people
that is more than 1 violent crime for every 10 britbong
3 times more than in the US
I understand why you have banned guns and restricted the ownership and possession of:
>knives, including butter knives and plastic knives
>screwdrivers
>wrenches
>cricket bats
>hockey sticks
>branches
you are violent savages that must be forced into civility by heavy handed draconian laws
>inb4 hurr durr but gun violence worse than any other violence
no it isn't
in fact it is better
being disabled by a gunshot can be achieved with less injury than being stabbed or bludgeoned
a bullet partially cauterizes the wound it makes, and because it is partially enclosed in the casing and fully enclosed in the gun it is more sterile than a knife
a knife, unless specifically sharpened for the purpose, leaves a more ragged wound than a gunshot
a bullet from most guns will not shatter bones, they have a hard time going through all but the thinnest bones (such as the skull), and even then it usually makes a clean puncture through the bone
bludgeoning weapons crush and shatter bones leaving many fragments that must be removed to properly treat the break
in fact, similar severity wounds are always easier to treat if they are created by gunshot
additionally, violent crimes in the US account for 0.0018% of violent crimes in the US
>>689579625
Source?
Youre right on the second point
>>689579755
Made me kek
>>689575756
Pretty much this. I'm an American male. I can buy a handgun in 2 weeks when I turn 21. I've never been a gun fanatic nor an anti gun person. But I'll be fucked if I don't at least give myself the ability to protect my wife and my property by having a firearm in my bedroom. Too many crazies out there to not be a homeowner and a gun owner
>>689570598
Congratulations, you have just created the gun cartel you fucking weeb
>>689570289
people dont kill people, americans kill people/thread
Have you guys seen that movie The Purge, where one night a year all crime is legal? That could solve our problems.
>>689579721
Guns give so much power, too much for monkey brains like america to wield responsibly
>>689570289
>Mfw no gun control regulation passed has actually brought down crime
>People still want more gun control
>>689579886
http://www.mintpressnews.com/the-facts-that-neither-side-wants-to-admit-about-gun-control/207152/
>>689570289
>TL;DR
There are too many Mericunts. Let the stupid Mericunts shoot each other?
Oh Hi Mericunts...
>>689579734
You've seen it in China and Australia.
>explain why high gun control areas are riddled with violence
Why do you think they made it a high gun control area?
>more guns in the hands of honest citizens
>>689578288
Sure if you like living in the new wild west, go ahead.
>>689579179
>>689578947
>missing the point that mass violence still happens, regardless of availability of firearms
>willingly ignoring the fact that it's a MENTAL HEALTH issue, NOT a weapons availability issue...
Why dont you let America have their guns? It's their way to live and this comes with mass shootings. If I'd live in America, I'd also buy a gun and carry it 24/7.
It's not like anything's going to change, you could also go to North Korea and ask Kim-Jong-Whale to ban Nuclear Development.
>>689578418
the stoli really completes this image
>>689579734
We want the same thing, but different methods.
Make it so only honest citizens get them, then there is no problem. There is more fine tuning to my ideologies than you're picking up on
>>689572056
So much win in one billboard
>>689580388
>Common sense
You don't belong here
>>689579855
Youre thinking too big picture, its easier to fight off a knife attack than a gun attack
>>689578451
Hey, I just think justifying the legal sale of an assault rifle and 500 round of ammunition to a guy who's unstable and has been investigated by the authorities is dumb. I've no problem with trained individuals employed to protect me having them. But I'm just a liberal leftist. Meme away bud.
>>689578349
fewer guns≠fewer deaths.
>>689580201
Please source this. I am doubtful
The problem here is that white people are less developed as a species. They do not have what it takes to survive. Black people have adapted to survive thanks to evolution. It all comes down to white people being the lesser species.
>>689578418
Underrated post
Good read
Gave me hard on
>>689580791
OR it could mean less guns for the people that want to defend themselves. I'm not a gun lover, I don't even own one, but if a person REALLY wants a gun to gun people down with, they will get it.
>>689580369
But why give them the fucking guns, there will always be people who want to hurt others. mass violence is so much harder with a weapon that doesnt reach extreme lengths
>>689570289
America is a lot bigger than the U.K, also, America got the short straw when it comes to 'freedom' cause they got all the dirty immigrants.
>>689580369
Literally everyone knows mass violence is going to keep happening. It's unavoidable in the world we live in today, and there's very little anyone can do to change that without reversing globalization and converting to an authoritarian dictatorship
What we CAN do is make sure that people with mental health problems don't have access to military-grade rifles, so that what would have been
>Deaths: 24
becomes
>Death: 0
>Wounded: 24
And the Chinese did that.
>>689578288
What a waste of dubs....
We're not talking about people dressed like American Infantry kicking doors in Afghanistan, just walking down the street or in the clubs carrying their AR15... A concealed carrier with a 1911 would've been more than sufficient to stop the attacker in Orlando, or at least keep the body count from getting so high.... Why? Here's why...
The mass-shooter chooses a "gun-free zone", a place where personal carry is ILLEGAL, to mitigate the risks to themselves. They do NOT expect someone to have a .45 stuck in their waistband, and one clean shot to an unsuspecting armed fucknugget shooting unarmed innocents would've STOPPED the incident...
It has been demonstrated time and time again that a concealed carrier on site turns a mass-killing into a low-bodycount violence event... Neither are great, but I'd rather hear about a concealed carrying citizen neutralizing ONE crazy with a beautiful handgun shot than another "50 people killed/60 injured at local gun-free zone"....
Stop assuming that it's all or nothing... Stop assuming that an "armed populous" means 100% of people carrying belt-feds and dressed in body armor. Stop being stupid.
>>689580973
It could, but thats not what we theorize
>>689579473
lol I don't get it though
A pistol is the ideal massacre weapon. Light, reloads easily, handling over power in every respect. Presumably the goal is the maximum number of deaths in a confined space, with an assault rifle you're going to get 1-2 mags in before the room is empty and you're going to waste most of those rounds, even a shotgun would perform better. Multiple pistols would be the ideal choice especially if you're going to do any running.
THOSE MONSTER SCHOOL SHOOTERS THEY HAD ASSAULT RIFLES. Why??? Wre the other children wearing class 2 body armor 300 yards away while firing back at them? The fuck use is a battle rifle? Or some weapon that belongs with a tank crew?
If you wanna shoot up a mall your best bet is multiple .22 or .36 pistols with as many extra mags as you can stuff into your pants.
>>689570289
The UK has like 7 people in their total population.
>Terrorist hates our freedoms
>Terrorist wants to murder a club full of people
>Terrorist has no gun cause gun laws are strict
>Looks up shrapnel bombs online
>Too hard
>Looks up chlorine gas online
>Too hard
>Considers just ramming a car full of tanks of gas into a building
>Feel bad for car
>Eh fuck it, may as well let infidels live
This is what liberals actually think would happen if you ban guns
>>689580602
in an attack with a knife
every one involves suffers cuts requiring medical treatment unless one party makes no attempt to resist the other
in a close attack with a gun (which most are) all injuries from the gun can be avoided by controlling the muzzle, then it becomes an unarmed struggle for control of the gun leaving both with bruises and abrasions, maybe some strangulation
also it is easiest to defend ones self from an attack with a gun with a gun
the gun violence in the US's wild west when most people walked around with a pistol on their hip or in their purse was ~1/3 what it is now
in fact gun violence in the US did not become a problem until labor unions succeeded in petitioning congress to enact gun control laws
>>689572129
>military grade
Do you regurgitate every ounce of meaningless horse shit you hear everyone else babbling about?
>>689579855
So name the last knife attack in the USA killing 50 and injuring 40 people. Pro tip, you can't. Oh I forgot it's because you all have guns to protect yourself. That's why A. N. UTTER needs an assault rifle to do the job properly.
>>689581188
This
>>689581421
Those still wouldnt have reached the same body count.
>>689581188
>It has been demonstrated time and time again that a concealed carrier on site turns a mass-killing into a low-bodycount violence event
It hasn't in literally 99% of all shooting events and any experienced SWAT officer will tell you that.
You stop being stupid. The chance of you being armed AND on site during a mass shooting attempt is almost zero. The daily problems that arise with having an armed populace (large enough to raise that chance to 5%) far outweigh any kind of "protection" against mass shootings.
>>689570289
Gun control Proposals:
Based on looks instead of functionality
Made by people who know bat dick about guns
Something that has been tried and failed
Completely absurd and never going to happen
Is already in place and perhaps not enforced well enough
Choose atleast one.
>>689580973
That was a not equal to sign buddy
>>689581122
why do you want to burden our heathcare system?
>>689581436
In a close attack with a gun...
>>689570289
Guns don't kill people.
Former G4S security guards kill people.
Same security company responsible for security at Logan and Dulles on 9/11 ...
>>689581648
Dumbass, the times square bomber that was stopped before he could blow his truck a few years ago was estimated to have been able to kill hundreds if not a thousand in one shot
Where theres a will, theres a way
>>689570598
>no guns makes you safer
you have just created a world where the strong rule over the weak, what a utopian society that will be
>>689572371
Fucking right bongbro
>>689579855
>violent crimes in the US account for 0.0018% of violent crimes in the US
>>689581226
You assume your average nut job has a brain. Best advice for America, keep weapons and huge amounts of ammo out of nut jobs hands. Nut jobs kill.
>>689581025
Those weapons are still necessary in today's society; a Free people ought to have the same means to protect themselves as the people who would want to subjugate them (namely, a person in charge of a military).....
Of course they get into the wrong hands every so often. It's a sad thing when it does, and always ends in tragedy.... But the answer is NOT to just take away all the guns; the answer is to find a way to keep mentally unstable and dangerous people from obtaining firearms, without infringing upon the rights of the honest, sane, law-abiding citizen.... THAT is the trick....
And nobody has been able to find that number-one solution, because the (actual) reason for these shootings hinges on so many variables that there IS no one shining gem solution to this problem.
If I was in charge, I'd start by bringing back institutions for the mentally ill, and the barring of firearms from anyone ever admitted to one of these institutions until such time as a psychiatrist can prove the person is rehabilitated WITHOUT a need for medications such as prozac, effexor, wellbutrin, etc., as these have also been shown to cause problems... It still won't stop the problem, but it might help....
>>689580791
Im glad to know you disagree
You are wrong
>>689582022
The chance of being on site during a mass shooting is zero. Mass shootings are not a problem nor a reasonable worry.
>>689582239
Why don't we try to address the nut job problem.
>>689582030
It has nothing to do with healthcare system. It has to do with strict gun control laws, which the Chinese have. It doesn't have much effect on crime, but it reduces crime-related deaths overall. Which is the goal.
>>689573542
Idiot.
>>689570289
guns DO kill people.
the guns in my gun safe come out at night, roaming my house, looking for a victim.
they have shot me three times.
then they go back and sleep all day in their gun safe.
i'd get them out of there but i am scared to death of them.
>>689582310
I agree with everything you said for the most part.
>>689573534
nobody would fuck with me if I owned a tank, I think that right to protect myself should apply to everyone.
Every powerful country has nukes, but nobody can launch them because everybody has them. Mutually assured destruction means assured no destruction
>>689582361
Agree, stop selling then weapons at Walmart. Handgun with small amount of ammunition ok. Anything else, full background checks. Reasonable?
>>689579986
If we locked you outside that night it'd solve at least one problem you silly cunt.
>>689582721
> Mutually assured destruction means assured no destruction
I'm sure Tyrone, Billibob, and Crackhead-Steve all understand mutually assured destruction on the level of a U.S. general and plan all their actions accordingly.
>>689582833
No, handguns are far more dangerous than long guns. bolt action sporting rifles should be freely sold at malls because they are statistically the hardest weapons to go on a killing spree with
>>689582022
Failed mass-shootings that don't get carried out because the gunman wounded one and was killed by another do NOT get SWAT involvement nor do they make the national news and get circused like successful ones.
And MY chances of being in a mass shooting and able to help might be slim, and I'm kinda glad for that.... But unlike 100% of liberals, I'm not selfish with my rights... If I'm not the one that's armed in a gay bar, then someone else very well could be, thus vastly increasing the chances of survival for others.... Do you get what I'm saying? The beauty of the Second Amendment is that you don't even have to exercise it to benefit from it!! Someone far more sensible and responsible can exercise it for you and keep you safe...
And ask all of the armed populace areas just how dangerous an armed populace really is.... What with their lower than average crime rates and all...
