ITT explain to me why we don't need anymore gun control?
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ITT explain to me why we don't need anymore gun control? Pro-tip: you legitimately and logically cant.
We need to ban guns for non-whites
Because faggots like you would be less likely to get shot.
>>689554351
Lol I will take this answer. Not bad at all.
>>689554321
white people are the ones shooting up schools and we are talking about mass shootings even if your a troll sit the fuck down and think of something better.
>>689554351
No people like us who care about people and don't treat people like shit get warning texts to stay away before the shooting not so much people like you though.
>>689554942
>>689554801
And in black neighborhoods in Chicago 50 people getting shot on Saturday is a slow weekend.
>>689555889
that doesn't make white people less eager to shot. It's not a reason to prevent shooting, you just avoid the blame
Just as stupid as those people saying that we should ban guns because there are knives
>>689554138
>when you use FB as a source
>2016
I stand behind you in line at the store with a smile on my face...and a gun under my shirt and you are none the wiser, yet you are safer for having me next to you. I won't shoot you. My gun won't pull it's own trigger. It is securely holstered with the trigger covered. It can't just go off. However, rest assured that if a lunatic walks into the grocery store and pulls out a rifle, I will draw my pistol and protect myself and my family and therefore protect you and your family. I may get shot before I can pull the trigger...but, I won't die in a helpless blubbering heap on the floor begging for my life or my child's life. No, if I die it will be in a pile of spent shell casings. I won't be that victim. I choose not to be. As for you, I don't ask you to carry a gun. If you are not comfortable, then please don't. But I would like to keep my right to choose to not be a helpless victim. There is evil in the world and if evil has a gun, I want one too...
>>689556299
check'd
Tell me how these informations are wrong.
>>689556457
God bless you anon
>>689556457
>>689556664
Wow, wow, wow stop. Let me show you where you're wrong.
The lunatic would never enter your store with a gun if there is gun control, and therefore, no need for you to have one too.
>>689554801
Black Serial/Mass/Spree Killer List:
1. Matthew Emanuel Macon (Murdered and Raped 5 White Women in Lansing)
2. Jimmie Reed (Murdered his wife and his 2 month old daughter and set them on fire)
3. Shelly Brooks (Murdered 7 prostitutes in Detroit Cass Corridor)
4. Justin Blackshere (Stabbed two white cooks at Cheli’s Chili downtown Detroit)
5. Jervon Miguel Coleman (Murdered three people.)
6. Donell Ramon Johnson (Murdered a mother and a daughter)
7. Brian Ranard Davis (6 women known murdered by nigger)
8. Paul Durousseau (Seven women)
9. Mark Goudeau “The Baseline Killer” (Eight women and a man in 2005-2006)
10. Coral Eugene Watts (11 women in Texas & 1 in Michigan)
11. Anthony McKnight (Five girls and young women)
12. Derrick Todd Lee (8 Women)
13. Charles Lendelle Carter (4 known murders; admits to ‘hunting’ Atlantans for 15 years!)
14. The Zebra Killings (71 White people)
15. Chester Turner (L.A.s most prolific killer 12 women killed.)
16. Lorenzo J. Gilyard (Kansas City, MO.—13 victims)
17. Eugene Victor Britt (Gary, IN.–3 known murder/rapes.)
18. Reginald and Jonathan Carr (The Wichita Massacre–6 Whites murdered)
19. Ray Joseph Dandridge and his uncle, Ricky Gevon Gray (Richmond, VA.–Murdered 7 people in 7 days, including an entire White family.)
20. The Tinley Park Murderer (Suspect hasn’t been found but has been described as black – murdered 5 women in a store.)
>>689556457
Basically this.
God forbid I was ever in a situation where I need to use my weapon but I'd much rather be in a position to effectively defend myself vs being completely helpless and under the control of some maniac.
No person should determine whether I live or die but me. At least not without a fight.
Here's a question for you; how many of those people who were killed in Orlando do you think wished they had a weapon on them in that moment?
If 10 of them were armed would it have played out differently?
A Canadian citizen was just beheaded in the Philippines last night by a Muslim. And our fucking fuck prime minister won't say anything about it because his fucking stepchild the Muslims did it. This country is going to shit
>>689556857
21. Henry Louis Wallace (Raped and strangled 5 women to death.)
22. Charles Johnston (Murdered 3 unarmed white men in hospital)
23. Craig Price (Brutally murdered 3 women)
24. Harrison Graham (Brually Murdered 3 women)
25. Charles Lee “Cookie” Thornton (Murdered 6 Whites at the Kirkwood, MO. city council. )
26. & 27. Darnell Hartsfeld & Romeo Pinkerton (Abducted and Murdered 5 from a restaurant)
28 &29. John Allen Muhammad & Lee Boyd Malvo (Sniped 11 people from a car in DC, 9 died.)
30. George Russell (3 women, WA state)
31. Timothy W. Spencer (5 killed, Arlington, VA and Richmond, VA)
32. Elton M. Jackson (12 gay men killed, Norfolk, VA area)
33. Carlton Gary (3 killed in Columbus, GA)
34. Mohammed Adam Omar (16 women, Yemen. Omar is Sudanese.)
35. Kendall Francois (8 women, Poughkeepsie, NY and surrounding areas.)
36. Terry A. Blair (8 women, Kansas City area)
37. Wayne Williams (33 many of them children!, Atlanta, GA)
38. Vaughn Greenwood (11 killed in LA)
39. Andre Crawford (10 killed in Chicago – southside)
40. Calvin Jackson (9 killed possibley more in NY)
>>689556526
Burden of proof is on you.
Why should I automatically believe what some random stranger posts on a social media website with zero evidence?
>>689557011
41. Gregory Klepper (killed 8, Chicago – southside)
42. Alton Coleman (Killed 8 in the Midwest)
43. Harrison Graham (killed 7+ in N. Philadelphia)
44. Cleophus Prince (6 killed in, San Diego
45. Robert Rozier (7 killed in, Miami)
46. Maurice Byrd (killed 20 + in St. Louis)
47. Maury Travis (17 and rising, St. Louis and possibly also Atlanta)
48. Hulon Mitchell, a.k.a. Yahweh Ben Yahweh (killed 20+ in Florida)
49. Lorenzo Fayne (killed 5 children in East St. Louis, IL)
50. Paul Durousseau, (killed 6, two of which were pregnant women, Jacksonville, FL; Georgia.)
51. Eddie Lee Mosley (killed 25 to 30 women, south Florida)
52. Henry Lee Jones (killed 4 in, south Florida; Bartlett, TN)
53. Richard “Babyface” Jameswhite (15 killed in, New York; Georgia.)
54. Donald E. Younge, Jr. (killed 4), East St. Louis, IL; Salt Lake City, UT.
55. Ivan Hill (killed 6 in Los Angeles area).
56. Michael Vernon (Bronx, NY. Killed at least seven people – )
57. Chester Dewayne Turner (12 women killed in, Los Angeles)
non whites make up a good majority of "mass" killings you shitskin bleeding heart faggot. The media just hides their muhrace
>>689556457
Look. I want to make this clear. I'm not saying comletely eliminate guns. If you are a conciencious and not psycho person then sure you can own a gun.
But why not:
1. Completely ban assault rifles (and by this I mean ar's and the sort. including sub-machine guns).
2.Completely ban gun shows.
3. Require proof that you can safely operate a gun. This is in the form of a class or a test, much like a driver's license test.
4. Make it mandatory to have your gun registered.
5. Make it mandatory to have gun insurance before you can operate one.
If you are a law abiding citizen, then you have absolutely nothing to fear from gun control.
2.
CAN YOU TAKE THIS FUCKING BULLSHIT OUT OF MY BOARD YOU FUCKING FAGGOT NIGGER?!
>>689554138
Wasnt this shooting in canada parlament stopped by the janitor who owned a gun?
>>689554138
>7 since Monday
name them
>>689556983
> an isis terrorist killed a dude
> "duh musdlime did it, the prime minister don't want to say that"
Why would he say that, really ? Do you think he would be stupid enough to point a whole community of 1,6 billions people ?
>>689557187
How am I a proof ? I checked those facts before even seeing this thread because I was in an argument with someone. You could go to Wikipedia or any website and the facts checks out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Canada
Nice denial tho'
>>689556772
Do you really think that no one will be able to get illegal guns?
You will take them from people like me, but let all the other element continue to carry their stolen or illegally bought guns.... millions of them mind you... that the government has no record of them owning.
Do you think they are just gonna go and say" Here police... here is my untraceable illegal gun?
I can buy all kinds of illegal shit.
>>689554138
Legitimately and logically, who wants to live in Canada?
>>689557249
Everything you just described is already law (aside from banning gun shows).
1. it's illegal to buy an automatic weapon
2. why?
3. you have to take a class of some sort to purchase weapons
4. it's illegal to have an unregistered weapon
5. wtf is gun insurance?
>>689554138
b-b-b-but muh constitushun.
Protip: Most idiots (read, Americans) haven't ever read the constitituin, much less could understand it. All those words with more than one syllable.
They hurt our widdle Jesus-brains.
>>689557249
>gun insurance
>ban machine guns and assault rifles
>thinks AR in AR15 maens Assault Rifle
>>689557705
Found the American
>>689556857
Me this morning
Wow I guess this is the new /pol/ except more traps and faggots.
>>689556167
You blaming me for Chicago crime?
>>689557412
not a janitor, security guard
>>689557609
Nice argument, that shows the necessity of break the black market before controlling gun possession, what's wrong with it ? that's not an argument against gun control, it's a real clever point about how we should do it. Many countries which are banning guns don't have a black market at all, and guess what NO GUN APPEARS out of nowhere
>>689557594
dude wtf?
Your "source" literally doesn't include shooting sprees, school shootings, or acts of terrorism.
Try again.
>>689557907
yup. basically.
>>689557775
Well spotted. Although I'm technically an American with zero sense of patriotism and even less desire to call these ammosexual, bible-thumping, cousin-fucking products of incest my countrymen.
So there's that.
Question for the eurofags out there: What are the chances of getting to sip a fine European beer at the appropriate temperature on a beach that isn't covered with Exxon's runoff while I watch this shit-tier country burn itself to the fucking ground after they elect a retard like Trump?
>>689556772
>The lunatic would never enter your store with a gun if there is gun control
Just like there is in Detroit - oh wait...
>>689557614
1. i meant semi-auto assault rifles. they have increased accuracy and magazine rounds.
2. Because loopholes.
3. No you don't.
4. No it isnt.
5. idk i was applying car safety logic but eh.
>>689558125
Awesome. I woke up this morning and thought I wasn't going to get anything done today.
I'm an American gun owner. I believe we need better gun control when it comes to certain types of guns.
Assault rifles being the main type. What purpose do these weapons serve that another can't? A citizen has zero need for a semi-auto rifle with a large magazine. I don't need a 30 or 50 round mag to go hunting. These weapons specifically were designed for killing efficiently. There is no defense for why a citizen should own one.
>>689558154
>>689558154
Super high. Ameri fag here who is in the same boat as you. My favorite European vacation spot is Lagos, Portugal. Great local beer (sagres), and beautiful beaches.
>>689557705
That document is why it is possible for you to go around being a fag on the internet (and IRL) without fear of being drug out into the street and shot (however in your case I can't imagine many would care) so before marginalizing a group of people who actually care about preserving our freedoms try asking yourself why banning guns now would work any better than banning alcohol did back in the 20's.
>>689557594
He wasn't actually in ISIS he was just a homophobic nut, and Islam had nothing to do with it. But thank god for watch lists and the Patriot act am I right ? Good thing they're catching Internet pirates instead
>>689554138
Contrary to popular belief the right to keep and bear arms was written into our constitution to protect from government tyranny not hunting and self-defense. Statistically people are much more likely to be killed in "gun free zones" such as Chicago or New York.
>>689558278
The AR10/15 was for hunting
>>689554138
Lol Canada never gets shot up because no one cares about Canada. Muslims in Middle East wouldnt even know thats a country
>>689558095
>NO GUN APPEARS out of nowhere
>mfw it is trivial to machine a fully-functional gun in a shop
>>689558095
>Many countries which are banning guns
Many countries don't have a 2000 mile border with one of the most lawless hellholes on Earth
>>689556299
that's twitter my man
>>689558358
>and Islam had nothing to do with it.
>just a homophobic nut
Pick one.
>>689558358
that nigga called 911 and pledged to isis and was on an fbi TERRORIST watch list
>>689558358
Its funny though. He was actually gay.
>>689558105
You can't read, but I like pedagogy so I'll help you
Massacre following this definition :
The indiscriminate and brutal slaughter of people or (less commonly) animals; carnage, butchery, slaughter in numbers
As small as this may seem, this list took everything that fit in this category, check the links since it's posted.
>>689554138
Pro-tip: Snarky posts on 4chinny will change nothing. I'll keep my guns, and buy some more. Have fun thinking you're "starting the conversation" or "making a difference".
In two weeks, the media will drop the coverage, and we'll go back to caring about what bathroom people use.
>>689558356
Please. no one is saying BAN ALL GUNS. only control the sale and acquisition, with i would think would be in the interest of any sensible gun owner.
>>689557705
>>689558482
> mfw
what do you know about this guy, gentleman
>>689556772
Except that your world cannot exist.
This anon (>>689556457) understands that we live in a world with too many guns to control, so adding more almost creates an equilibrium. Are you likely to try to mass murder if you know 20 others around you will bust a cap in your ass if you pull a gun?
>>689558639
Kek. Sad but true.
>>689558538
That gets guns from the US..... drugs go up guns go down
>>689558419
No. The original ar 15 was designed for the US army. Colt then redesigned it as the m16 for the military yet again. It later was turned semi auto and sold to civilians.
>>689554138
because nobody gives a flying fuck about canada. everyone thinks canada and thinks "maple syrup and hockey". Meanwhile, you think america and muslims think "ENEMY OF MUHAMMAD I MUST BLOW THEM UP AND KILL KILL KILL"
dumb asses. canada isn't even real
>>689558356
Yeah. I forgot. Baby Jeebus wrote are Constitution.
You're the kind of fucking idiot that actually has a print of that McNaughton painting in their house, aren't you?
Get back on your rascal scooter, you jingoistic shithead.
>>689558745
Probably. All these people go into these things knowing they will probably die as a result.
>>689558538
Fair point is fair. I give you that, that would be stupid of me to keep on neglecting that fact.
>>689558588
Yeah that was his point
>>689558700
They do that everywhere
>>689558154
Have you ever been to Europe? Go to any of the major cities. Its basically the Middle East at this point. Going overseas was the biggest let down.
>>689558794
And just what do you think is going to happen with a gun ban in the US?
>>689558840
>y-y-you dissagree, then you're ignorrant!
>>689558861
clearly not well enough. and no they don't. ive never shot a gun but i can go to a gun show in the south and buy one without question.
>>689558563
There's Christian homophobic nuts too, it's just someone who was insecure about his sexuality and used religion as an excuse to rationalize why he should other gay people
>>689554138
>Pro-tip: you legitimately and logically cant.
why would anyone try to have a discussion with you?
you sound like a Sanders supporter
>>689558969
War!
>>689558910
I live in Dearborn, MI.
There aren't this many Muslims in the middle east.
>>689558563
Are you saying there's no homophobia in Merica?
>>689554321
then we could be...
white knights
>>689559062
I was in London brobropopo, it tops Dearborn and Minneapolis. I thought "Little Somalia" was bad.
>>689558700
They already do that dumbass
>>689558969
Hopefully common sense prevails.
inb4 the "self defense" defense. you dont need to defend yourself from people who ALSO don't have guns. if you do, you'll have access to the same means they will. *+..+*magic*+..+*
>>689556857
>>689557011
>>689557211
>>689558737
I don't go about carrying around portraits of Frog chemists in my phone
>>689559026
Yeah ok buddy, and I'm the Shah of Iran
>>689556457
Right, so we should just trust your word and assume you wont kill anyone yourself. I'd feel safer with no guns around me than a literal fire fight while I'm buying cereal
>>689558852
you're new here but im not mad.
>>689559173
>magic
Or a gun black market
Or a machinist shop
>>689558745
My world exists in many other countries, the only real argument against my point is >>689558538 (even though someone mentioned that guns are made in the USA so.. )
You do realize that for most mass murderer, they lose their sense of reality and they don't think in matter of consequences.
> if I shoot this school this dude gonna pew pew my ass
That doesn't work like that.
plus the delusional is not seen before he commits his act, now do you want to give him a gun knowing he will do it ? Your son might be in that school, if you have degree you could be a teacher there.
>>689554138
because guns are a big industry and frankly no one seems to give a sh!t after 2 weeks after any big shooting (im pro gun control though)
>>689559210
...hes not lying. you can actually do that. my mom bought 3 guns at one gun show, in less than 2 hours. no background checks, no questions asked. cash in hand, gun obtained.
>>689559026
Because that is your right. You should get outside more anon
>>689558358
>and Islam had nothing to do with it.
How many Islamic countries are totally cool with gays?
>>689554138
Too many jobs involved
>>689559225
Then come on down to Detriot! The most gun free and crime free city in the world!
179 mass shooting so far this year. 287 dead, 660 wounded.
Keep up the good work! The only good murican is a dead murican!
>>689554138
How many of those fags do you think wished they had a gun in their hands?
>>689559370
What state?
>>689559370
>citation needed
>>689554138
who the fuck cares about fucking canade i would give them guns if they start shooting eachother.
>>689557609
Make th harder to obtain dipshit. My father owned an actual ak-47 that he bought online and planed to use
>>689558969
Jesus christ.... not a gun ban, sensible gun control... like if you're on a fucking fbi watch list Mayne you shouldn't be allowed to buy a fucking gun....
>>689559308
No, that only because I want you to understand my logic, and I can't expect people to be reasonable when I am not reasonable myself. I am not going to call you a faggot and get it over with, this is a fact confrontation and if you're right, you're right.
>>689554138
Pick anything the US has had 7 of since Monday, and it will probably take Canada 20 years to get 8 of them.
>>689558188
loooollll. did you find that list in the autism handbook?
>increased accuracy and magazine rounds
all guns are accurate for a reason, you think a hunter wants to hit a tree instead of a deer? increased compared to what? buckshot? assault is a media hot word. it doesnt really mean anything in terms of a guns performance
you anti-gun retards should really do some reading before you run your mouths.
imagine I was scared of driving and cited all this made up BS from what Ive seen in movies and from playing need for speed about car safety, without knowing what I was talking about and then wanted to take your car from you. Theres always the chance you could drive drunk you know, I need to save you from yourself
>>689558851
This is true, but I feel it's pretty safe to assume that the net loss is significantly reduced if you have armed citizens ready to defend, as apposed to a lot of unarmed fish in a barrel. The sad truth to this whole debacle is that there is no correct answer and never will be. As with gender debates and abortion and all the other things modern society is so hung up on. Just gotta sit back and let it all play out I suppose.
>>689559497
Ever heard of due process? I suppose we should just remove the rights of anybody suspected of a crime right? No, thats stupid. You are presumed innocent until proven guilty. The punishments can only come after you've been convicted of something.
>>689559492
You have no idea how hard it is to get shit do you
>>689559325
>gun black market
those already exist.
>machinist shop
we identify our enemy fire by the type of weapons and artillery they've been manufacturing in their basements
this bullshit logic is why we still have guns in the first place. b-but if we dont have them, shit will go badly.
>worse than sandy hook?
Americans will literally let their children get shot (or shoot 'em themselves) before they'll give up their guns.
>priorities amirite
>>689558154
alcohol is banned under sharia law
filthy kaffir
>>689554138
would you rob a store in which three of the customers were carrying their weapon openly?
>>689559497
It's called a watch list, not "did criminal shit" list. Not everyone wants big daddy gubmint to tell us how to be safe.
>>689559339
I replied to another guy somewhat addressing your arguments
See >>689559562
>>689559554
Increased compared to a fucking handgun you twat. That's why people hunt with rifles not handguns. Like are you really that retarded.
Also, there are more laws pertaining to cars than guns.
>>689559373
Is it also a right that I can walk down to a grocery store and buy a bag of chips?
Is that right protected in the constitution as well? Or is it only the ones that are vaguely hinted at in the Bill of Rights (by means of "A WELL REGULATED militia...").
>>689557705
Actually americans right to bear arms is in the bill of rights not the constitution you dumb fuck. now go be an idiot somewhere else.
>>689554138
It's the same as banning everything else. It only works in your own reality.
I follow laws so I won't do drugs if they are illegal.
I follow laws so I won't buy hookers if they are illegal.
I follow laws so I won't buy guns if they are illegal.
etc..
Everybody will be even more helpless because getting a gun is easy shit. America has a cultural problem not a gun problem.
>>689556167
actually it's figuring out what is actually to blame. You're just race baiting.
>>689559554
>increased accuracy
Hush anon, he wants self-defense guns to be shit. Then, when somebody tries to stop a holdup, they won't be able to shoot the nigger.
>>689559660
ok, so out of 100 faggots, why did NONE carry a gun? mass shootings happen because u amerifags NEVER carry ur fucking firearm unless you go hunting or mass-shooting!
>>689554942
Get a warning text to stay away but no decency to report the threat to police to stop it before it happens. You're a bigger piece of shit than the "assholes" getting shot
>>689559458
>>689559467
Texas (where shes licensed to use them) but I'm pretty sure the purchases were made in Alabama.
>>689559497
>like if you're on a fucking fbi watch list
That's a little too restrictive -- being on a list doesn't mean you necessarily have done anything, it sure as fuck does not mean you have been convicted of anything and deserve to have some of your rights taken away. I'm not sure allowing any law enforcement agency to restrict your rights just because they decide to put you on a list is something you'd accept, when you stop and think about it.
Shit, I was on some fucking list for air travel for a time, because my father, son and I have the same name and there was some confusion about when and where we had traveled.
>>689559749
You're a special kind of stupid, aren't you?
>>689559450
Last mass shooting stopped by an armed civilian was in '82, and even that was AFTER the shooter had killed 8 people.
>>689559370
Yeah you can buy guns at gun shows with no back ground checks ad long as it's a "personal transaction" it happens all the time, I bought my shotgun that way was from an actual dealer but the guy said HE will give it to me for 20 bucks off the price after I asked if I could get it any cheaper it's ridiculous . O and I'm legally insane but since have gotten rid of it. Like walking into an actual gun store and trying to buy a gun would have had me shipped off to a hospital for a while.
>>689557567
Cricket noises...
>>689554138
I'm okay with more gun control so long as long as I can pass a physiceval I can use any guns on the market today. I mean really, if we bar people from being cops because they aren't mentally stable they shouldn't have guns but that doesn't mean that if ayou are mentally stable you shouldn't be allowed to have the most badass gun available, that isn't full auto.
>>689558417
That's bc it's new york and chicago, populated areas have more crazy, the gun supporters fucking their sisters live in bumfuck sandwich IL or something, they don't see this violence themselves
>>689559767
> hur dur let's blame a skin color for the possible gun shooting which happened/are happening/will happening
You're a far better b8 than me
>>689554138
Fact: there are existing laws that make any kind of mass shooting illegal by breaking multiple laws for each offense.
What makes you think another law will stop this......
Also why does no one EVER blame the buttons or terrorist?
>>689559601
>those already exist.
They will just expand more with the millions of guns that have suddenly been "lost in a boating accident"
>we identify our enemy fire by the type of weapons and artillery they've been manufacturing in their basements
Terry Taliban was able to make a weapon out of spare parts. Look up Khyber pass weapons. Its entirely possible to build very functional weapons in basements.
>this bullshit logic is why we still have guns in the first place. b-but if we dont have them, shit will go badly.
Shit does go badly when we don't have them. The Police aren't legally required to protect you and response times are joke as Orlando showed.
>Americans will literally let their children get shot (or shoot 'em themselves) before they'll give up their guns.
Some of us are capable of seeing through appeals to emotion.
>>689557705
>tfw you actually had to memorize parts of the constitution as class projects
>and recite them too
>>689554138
When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.
>>689558105
School shootings don't happen in Canada-Land, everyone knows that.
The last act of terrorism one person died. Not to downplay that, but it is really insignificant, considering that is was foreign terrorism (alot of the USA's terror is domestic, which is even worse).
Shooting sprees in Good Ol' Canadia don't happen either.
>>689559660
arm everyone, you have three hundred million + firearms in the country already ...its worked so beautifully for you all so far...
out of interest what do you think will be the lucky number where crime is a thing of the past five hundred million....ten hundred million perhaps.
maybe if you pass a law making it illegal not to be heavily armed at all times?
>>689559819
it's actually just cause the crimes were prevented but okay.
Where I'm from in TX, there's open carry about to be allowed on college campuses. Would you shoot up a school that had an open carry policy?
>>689559834
>CITATION NEEDED
>>689554138
And you live in a socialist country that has less freedom than we do with a higher rate of violent crime when you take out the niggers.
>>689556526
Name the seven mass shooting since Monday.
I could name any number of instances where a mass shooting did NOT occur, but that would be a waste of all of our time. You made an assertion -- an you back it up at all?
>>689559948
>hurr durr let's ignore the fact that the majority of gun crimes are intra-racial and gang related
Now you're just being purposely obtuse
Gun controll isnt needed at all.
America needs to change, not guns.
>>689559761
>all laws are pointless
>>689554801
Most mass shootings are gang related in the US (yes, they include gang shootings in that stat). So banning niggers and spics would help tremendously.
Also, banning democrats from guns would drop mass shooting rates by 90 percent
>>689560044
It's just like a FPS - every enemy you kill gives you a new gun.
>>689555889
Bbbut blacklivesmatter they don't do that, it was the white cops that shoot the poor blacks, they do nothing wrong except be oppressed /liberal cuck
>>689558588
According to who, Jamal? Sources matter. And every American source is already bought and paid for by your politicians. If they want to manufacture a call to ISIS, all they have to do is come out a few hours after the incident and tell one single outlet "hey, he totally called ISIS beforehand heres money, say that" and done deal. You guys fall for it hook, line, and sinker.
And then ironically turn around and claim the nations corrupt and that you can't trust anyone.
>>689556772
>The lunatic would never enter your store with a gun if there is gun control
This is true, look at all the other controlled substances, nobody can get any of them.
Prohibition works, guys!
>>689559636
>
You realize after the Orlando shooting that our country is now deep red.....
>>689560044
well be my guest and carry them, damn its painful to read 100 news about mass shootings and 0 about mass shooting prevented by citizens..
>>689554138
the problem comes from not allowing guns everywhere. if you target zones that forbid guns, you know you arent going to get shot until the police get there. thats why schools and nightclubs are such prime targets. i've never heard of a bass proshop or nra convention getting shot up
>>689558861
Man take a look at american grade a faggotry
>>689560044
I doubt someone who is planning a shootout really gives a shit.... and the situation that would unfold immediately after the shooting would be complete chaos. How would someone know who the first shooter or would if there's another guy with a gun who sees two people shooting and he pops one of them or when the police show up and no one knows what the fuxk is going on, ever thought of this? Not to mention all the people who could be nicked in the cross fire and background
>>689556983
Islam is a religion, your white neighbour John could be a muslim.
>>689560140
this.
we have a mental health issues in this country that no one will address because it's easier to blame guns rather than talk about the tough issues.
>>689554942
oh my god you are such a raging faggot
>>689560130
http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting
ohhh
>>689560246
>>689558358
>>689560044
I'm going to shoot up a school. Do I plan on making it out alive?
>>689554138
Well i live in europe we have the strictest gun laws around and there are alot of mass shootings, bad guys will always find their way to a machine gun somehow even when you outright ban them, and if that doesnt work they'll stab people just look up stabbings/beatings in europe with +2 deaths everyweek, the numbers will suprise you
>>689559027
>There's Christian homophobic nuts too
Right but he WASN'T FUCKING ONE OF THEM. He was muslim. He (most likely) was conflicted about being gay. The two are way more likely related than the possibility of his being a closeted Christian nut who needed a reason to shoot fags.
>>689559601
>>gun black market
>those already exist.
And banning it has worked wonders
>>machinist shop
>we identify our enemy fire by the type of weapons and artillery they've been manufacturing in their basements
Post-facto, once it has already been used. In my country, a "gun ban" didn't stop the leftards from setting up shops and make guns usable enough to take over police and army stations. Unfortunately, shooting leftards tends to make them martyrs, but I think I'm drifting.
>>689559669
So what's the point of it then ? To know after the shooting that he had terrorist sympathies ?
>>689560010
if you actually teach people how to use a firearm and how to treat one, you won't have so many accidental deaths (for one), and you won't have so many gun crimes because they'd be prevented, passively or actively, by citizens, thus making the cops' jobs easier. That would lead to less cop-civilian bias and thus less claims of both police brutality and institutionalized racism. Sounds like a win/win to me
>>689559741
simply because of barrel length makes it easier to shoot (longer barrel rifling and longer sight distance), not more accurate. My friend hunts with a Glock.So you prefer a gun that is more concealable? Also my hand gun holds 17 rounds and my rifle holds 10. So why dont you go do research before your mom finds out youre on 4chan and you get grounded from the computer
All these fucking idiots talking about gun control, remove the illegal trade of guns etc. Cops can't even control shoplifters, drug trade, murder, rape, anything. How are they going to control millions of illegal guns? You and all of your kids going to become cops to save the world? Lmao.
>>689560227
lol you're b8 there
If you would have seen the thread, we spoke about the necessity to finish the black market before the gun controls, same rule applies here, how come the governement isn't shutting the black market of drugs you ask ? guess what
They get
MONEY
O
N
E
Y
out of it
>>689558278
>Assault rifle
Already controlled. Please learn what the terms of gun art mean.
>>689559492
Hmm, an uneducated man who works in a scrap yard ordered parts to a fully functional full auto ak with 4000 rounds in 4 transactions online. That's how he did it
There's not as many muslims in Canada.
/thread
>>689559974
>entirely possible to build weapons in basements
Thank you. Welcome to my entire fucking point. You can already do that shit right now. So your "worst case scenario" is ALREADY POSSIBLE RIGHT NOW.
>police aren't legally required to protect you
So why are you bitching about police brutality in your country?
>Some of us are capable of seeing through appeals to emotion.
But not seeing through elaborate ruses your government uses to manipulate an election season, right? It's just 9/11 all over again, and you're all having the same exact response. "KILL DA TERRORISTS MORE GUNS OMG OUR FREEDOMZ"
way to go.
>progress
>>689554138
States without gun control have much less violent crime
And there have been multiple documented cases of responsible individuals concealing that defended themselves against attackers, and more cases of individuals(including my own mother) stopping home intruders with a firearm in the house
>>689560050
...from a personal claim?
you want a fucking receipt?
>>689559807
thats fine, I'll be safe and laugh while he gets raped and robbed by tyrone and achmed
>>689559194
Lol butthurt nigger has no rebuttal.
Face it.
Blacks are infinitely more violent in every aspect, you just almost never hear about it in today's liberal cuck media.
>>689560243
you wouldn't read about mass shootings prevented, you would read about a murderer who was shot.
>>689560136
Did not say that, I just don't think we should control guns based on ethnicity critera but rather sociological facts.
If we follow your logic
> what if the white dude who's cool with niggas give them guns wow shooting appears even tho black folks can't have guns wow did not expect
>>689560531
"finish the black market"
you can make guns out of plastic now and digital metal machiners can print guns. where there's a demand there's a market for supply. stop being so ignorant (except you can't because you're a stupid 'liberal')
>>689559660
Shoot them first
>>689560293
I'm listening.
>>689560177
yeah, i listen to rush limbaugh too. hes got some really good points about how conservatives and christians are always right and they never do anything wrong.
>westboro baptist church
>KKK
inb4 "b-but KKK started off as democrats". Fuck yourself. Democrats changed their names to republicans decades ago faggots. Try harder.
Fact. Estimated 300,000,000 guns in America. 84K non death injuries a year, 33K deaths a year. That is .039% of guns involved in violence ASSUMING each case is a unique gun which many are 1 gun on multiple people. .011% are death related. And again this % are lower once you figure that some guns are used on multiple people.
>>689556976
It sure would. Ten people would be shooting at anything that moves for fear of their lives, and then those 10 would get shot by the police.
How many mass shootings have been ended by some random asshole with a pistol in his pants?
People act like having a gun gives you prescient knowledge of who needs to be shot, but all anyone ever accomplishes is doing some of the shooters work for them.
>>689556857
most of these seem like serial killers not mass murders
>>689560388
That's actually a pretty solid comedy bit
As some ano said before, why gun nuts are so hypocrite. Just say the true.
You really don't care about other people getting shot, what you really care is having guns and shooting them. Just fucking stop the bullshit, we all know the true.
Ban muslims, not guns.
>>689560277
there is a bullet pattern...
Hear bullets ring out in clear pattern? Shooter. Hear bullets ring out in clear pattern with an interlaid staccato, followed by one last, out-of-pattern bullet and silence? Shooter down.
Bullets make noise, you fucking child. You wear earplugs when you go shooting for a reason.
>>689557609
This. I can call a friend, wait a couple of hours and get some drugs. Do I want to? Not any more, but the point is I still can. Laws dont stop criminals they just create/define them.
>>689560388
what is this page ? who is that ?
>>689560834
> How many mass shootings have been ended by some random asshole with a pistol in his pants?
Do you think perhaps you should google that for yourself to find out, before you imply it to be a small number? You're leaving yourself rather open if someone else happened to be a bit more curious or knowledgeable than you.
>>689560005
Neither does...
Anything good? Anyone?
>>689559761
Have you ever been in a state where drugs and hookers are hard to come by?
>>689559876
Citation needed
>>689560761
Oh good. Let's find ANOTHER thing to be racist about.
"You're Mexican? Nope, no guns for you."
>your master plan in action
>>689559370
And now both your mom and the seller committed multiple felonies and that's if what your saying Is true (hint: it isnt)
>>689558639
>In two weeks, the media will drop the coverage, and we'll go back to caring about what bathroom people use.
Frankly, this. Though I'd modify that to "pretending to care passionately" since nobody gave a fuck until some politicians in Charlotte went nuts, then some other politicians in Raleigh went nuts in response, providing both sets of politicians with a sure-fire money-raising pitch.
>>689560490
there are wonderful parts of the world where people own hunting rifles at most....police brutality is almost unheard of , the government abides by the will of the people, there is very little violent crime, almost no gun death per annum, guaranteed healthcare , free third level education , excellent public transportation, excellent public amenities etc etc etc....yanno, all the things that people like you say are totally impossible.
keep daring to not dream
>>689558188
>increased accuracy and magazine rounds
that's the fucking point
>loopholes
like 0.001% of guns are bought via loopholes, most criminally carried guns are bought illegally
>car insurance
do you need to buy speech insurance? religious insurance? freedom from search and seizure insurance? if not, then fuck off
>>689560390
do you plan on hitting one or two or making it up to double digits? If more than a few, a campus open-carry policy probably wouldn't bode well for you.
I live in the south near a major city. Assaults/muggings happen happen so quickly that having a gun will most likely only help if you're shooting at the nigger as he runs away. I think people live in a fantasy world full of scenarios like in Crocodile Dundee's "that's not a knife" seen and feel they will be approached and threatened. In reality, you're just gonna get punched in the back of the head, or pistol whipped, before you know what hit you. Home invasions are pretty rare too. Maybe I'm just a libtard, but I just go about my business and don't live in fear.
>>689560238
>per 100,000 people
No
>>689561063
Did not say that. Do you know what "sociological facts" mean ?
>>689561102
>multiple felonies
>gun show purchases
hilarious.
>>689561144
We choose not to exchange our freedom for your safety.
>>689560388
Actually this is exactly what's going on, only it's true, ISIS isn't about jihad. It's a political movement to take land and implimemt order and is being rationalized
By calling it jihad, notice how they aren't killing infidels.... they are killing people who stand in their way and not because of their religion....
>fact: shooting people is illegal
>fact: people do it anyways
>fact: making it SUPER duper illegal won't matter
>>689558700
>control the sale and acquisition
Oh, cool then. Good news for you -- that already happens. So we can all relax and go back to YLYL threads. I have a darling little banana image I plan to post in the next one, should get a lot of laffs.
>>689559225
I've been stewing in crazy thoughts for a decade and I plan to kill as many people as possible on March 11 2018 (The Day of Retribution The Day of Retribution The Day of Retribution) but now that guns are illegal I guess I'm out of luck!
>what is buying a gun illegally
I love that the agencies said this guy wasnt a threat according to the info we had on him and Im sure people still would want to take in refugees. maybe now theyll understand that we dont have info on these people and some are dangerous. killing faggots is normal in muslim countries and people want to bring them here
>>689561148
You forgot about insurance insurance
>>689556457
Thanks, duder
>>689561284
Making it unobtainable will matter fucktard.
>>689561243
Oh sorry. "You're a Mexican from a bad neighborhood and you make less than $30K a year? Nope no guns for you."
>meta-discrimination
>>689560834
Thank you.
>hurr durr why are college campuses gun free zones
>mfw you try to stop a active shooter on campus and you get rekt by swat trying to be a hero
>>689561256
you live in a giant prison you fool.
>>689558840
> "i'll call him a redneck again, that will show him!"
>>689560761
>hurr durr let's pretend nigga was talking about race instead of making sure the facts were involved
How about you don't discriminate based on race and focus on the things that actually matter? Gang violence is related to class, so they need an education. Focus on education, not guns.
Jesus, you people literally make everything about race.
>>689558822
>everyone thinks canada and thinks "maple syrup and hockey".
Except nobody thinks of hockey at all.
>>689561284
yeah so why even bother, right?
it wont even make a difference so why bother trying to save lives? pfff.
>>689554138
Guns don't kill people since they are an inanimate fucking object you canadacuck/eurocuck.
In the WRONG hands, guns are dangerous. But most people that own guns are law-abiding citizens that don't want to commit mass murder.
Maybe we need MUSLIM control.
>>689561402
How do you plan on doing that?
>>689560805
For one, our education system is starting to dumb down our kids generation by generation. That's easily looked up and proved by how we're month my month, de-funding extracurricular activities that help develop children's minds into decent human beings.
We're starting to see this effect if how people treat each other. It's awful.
Less and less Americans are practicing love and tolerance and adopting their hate based on "mu-beliefs" and politicians are making them feel perfectly justified.
>>689561407
That's better, but I've that there is not ethnicity critera and you're talking about a mexican.
>>689560781
you'd get one, maybe two off before the clerk or the last guy would shoot you.
>>689560243
You do realize 99.9% of successful mass shooting occurs in gun free zones where no one could have a gun to stop it right? And you do realize that the media never reports when a mass shooting is prevented by someone. You only hear if your lucky some crazy was planning or trying to kill, and it's forgotten the next day.
>>689559173
What are knives, crossbows, blowguns, baseball bats and assorted clubs, explosive devices, brass knuckles, fist packs, ice picks, bricks, tire irons, and other assorted weapons.
No matter what u do, someone will always want to hurt someone else and some of those people will suceed.
You dont even need to fire one shot. Sometimes u just need a ryder van u rented and some fertiliser from the hardware store.
>>689561402
>unobtainable
See:>>689560462
>>689555889
that's because ghetto nigs don't use condoms and have more babies than they can take care of. The kids grow up impoverished, take up illegal activities as a means for survival, and create more baby mamas. That population will keep growing regardless of their self-inflicted violence.
>>689561448
No, I'm American, not Australian.
>>689560010
I can't wait for the fun when everyone can have a gun, walmart will become a warzone, a teacher will walk into a classroom and cap every child with eaze bc he loterally walked into school with a loaded firearm. What do 300 m armed citizens mean? More american bloodshed than the covil war
>>689561402
>criminals can't get their hands on illegal firearms already
>obtaining all firearms that currently exist would require gestapo level of house to house purging
>>689557249
Your bait is low quality but yet I'm inclined to answer.
Assault rifles are banned you fucking idiot. Assault rifles are "selective fire" meaning they have the option to be operated both semi and fully automatic. In the US unless you want to jump through a fuck load of hoops and pay over 12grand for a gun manufactured before 1986, you cannot own a fully automatic weapon. So nobody has fucking assault rifles.
Also, because I'm sure you're an autistic retard, AR stands for "armalite" not assault rifle.
It's obvious you've never bought a gun before. The dealer calls the ATF, and they give you a pass or fail, if they fail you, that's it. No more gun. Also you have 10 days to register any handguns you purchase with your local police before you get buttfucked by the law and they can just take your gun.
Mandatory gun insurance is retarded. My firearms are kept locked in my safe and are covered under my home insurance, except for my pistol which is my hdw. But if you look up ANY handgun safety act, if that gun is stolen or used in a crime with or without your knowledge and it's not reported stolen you're buttfucked and liable (at least in Michigan) for the shit that happened.
Also. The 2nd amendment says "shall not be infringed" tell me how you stop any gubment from becoming totalitarian without guns? Protip: you cant.
>>689561469
Or maple syrup.
Or canada.
>>689561497
> what is the whole reason of this thread
Go jerk off please, I'm laughing while I'm trying not to.
>>689560834
>I would be a retard with a gun therefore most people would be
>>689561469
>tfw no canadian teams even made it into the playoffs this year
ITT: My dad let me play Call of Duty once, and now I know everything about guns and real life and taxes.
>>689561607
you dont even see the bars
yes, lets accept more dogs from middle east, they're so good and contribute so much to our society. refugees welcome, lets ban guns so they can kill our privileged fags
>>689561493
Yeah because all those school/movie theatre/church/planned parenthood shoitings were done my muslims
>>689558278
> yeah im totally a gun owner but shouldn't we do something about those evil baby-killing assault rifles and their 30-round assault clips?
kys
>>689561685
Nobody in the thread has said how they plan on getting rid of all the guns.
>>689561718
>>689559194
Brilliant image, I had not seen an Amigara Fault reference on 4chan in a long time...
let me ask this, when has a responsible gun owner carrying for personal protection ever killed a mass shooter?
>>689561144
except that this society isn't close to sustainable and we need to look at a future without houses and social infrastructure.
So that doesn't really make sense. Even though I wish we could keep guns to a minimum, that is an impossible and fruitless desire. You have to focus on the fact that people need to be able to defend themselves when they need to defend themselves, and the priority has to be keeping around things that are important for a primitive-esque lifestyle.
>>689561705
we didn't get the best europeans for our teams this year.
>no matter who wins, its probably a team of eastern europeans anyways
>>689561628
Oh trust meh, on 15 years you can purge every illegal gun. I'm not the best guy to talk too but just look up on how other countries did it when they changed their laws about guns.
>>689561794
Because it's impossible.
>>689559173
i agree, my fellow liberal! why can't we be like civilized countries such as france? they banned guns, and now nobody ever gets shot there!
>>689561794
>*-+magic+-*
>>689561737
Not the gay bars, certainly. I hear they have a Muslim terrorism problem.
>>689561586
Exactly. And both you and your perceived 'enemies' will have access to those materials as well.
I struggle to see a time when someone hates you so much, that they'd go through hell and brimstone just to obtain an illegal object just to kill you.
>this level of self aggrandizement is asounding
>>689561906
no country has gun proliferation like the USA does. there is no comparison
>>689561822
Ask that to google. You'll get lots of answers.
criminals will always find a way to get guns. did no one else see the video where they were making AR15 lower receivers with 3d printers? yea they broke after 300 rounds but still
>>689554138
>gun control
we don't need gun control, we need muslim control
>>689561402
Work well during prohibition didn't it.....
>>689554138
SHALL
NOT
BE
INFRINGED
>>689554138
Add another one the US there.
>>689561906
I durnt trust yer. Prove it.
>>689561586
>people will always kill people so it's useless to even try to do anything about it
The American Attitude™
>>689559497
> is a progressive liberal
> thinks we should take away people's rights because they're on a secret government list that nobody is allowed to see, that they put people on without any due process whatsoever
>>689561144
wait til niggers or minorities invade, you'll see it all fail
>>689561968
Well at least you admit the problem. Now work on that.
>>689561909
Exactly right, it works in a place like Scotland because they didn't have that many guns and it's a small place.
I don't think that many people realize the size of the USA or it's population or how states work.
>>689561607
note: New Zealand, with the same gun laws as Australia, has had brutal beatings and kidnappings of women over the past several months. They have had to jump out of moving cars to save themselves from slavery, only to die upon impact with the road.
So yeah, guns might be nice.
>>689560393
The highest rate of mass shootings per capita is denmark and they have like 20 mass shootings? As compared to literally over 200 in the past few years in the states
>>689561402
"unobtainable"
oh you're cute
>>689562132
They don't. They're just NO WAY you could take everyone's guns. The president even just stated that no one is or will try and take them.
>>689561906
Just like Best Korea
>>689561911
Guns aren't 100% illegal in the EU either, you uncultured faggots. They're just insanely harder to qualify for and obtain. And you have to prove its for a good cause, not just so you can have one lying around the house.
>they still have access to guns
>and they still don't have 10K+ people dying every year due to gun related incidents
>>689561968
yes, no automatic weapons in Africa. Boko Haram, Darfur, Kony, those things never existed.
>>689562122
Well we're TRYING to build a wall to stop it from being such a big problem, but people keep calling the client a racist and the responsible party is trying to refuse payment.
>>689562086
i'd trust my neighbor with any kind of firearm before I'd trust the government with one
all you'd do by "banning" guns assuming you could make them magically disappear is ban everyone except the government access to them
>>689560998
Why don't you do that and bring me the results? I won't hold my breath
>>689562035
PART
OF
A
WELL
ORDERED
MILITA
>>689559592
This. Now for an interesting thought -- if some durka-durka is on a watch list, why not try, you know, WATCHING his ass? Maybe catch him as he heads out to shoot a bunch of people (or bomb them, or stab them, or poison them, or crash a plane into them) instead of just cleaning up after?
>>689562086
>the copyright symbol
>>689562034
duh, why do you think theres no drugs on the streets too
>>689560321
Most of those aren't mass shootings, the FBI has clear guidelines as to what constitutes a mass shooting.
>>689557249
And if your a law abiding citizen you have nothing to fear from giving the nsa full access to all electronic devices no questions asked and allowing police to search your home and person at all times without a warrant.
>>689560834
If it was ended by someone with a gun it wouldn't be a mass shooting would it. The dead and injured would be too low for the news to give a shit and no one other then the town involved would even know of the shooting. Idiots like you would then spout utter bullshit about how since you never heard it from your talking points must not have happened
>>689562122
b-but muh constitution
>>689557249
>1. Completely ban assault rifles (and by this I mean everything that actually is not an assault rifle)
ftfy
>>689562358
>trademark you fucking twat
>>689559601
>this bullshit logic is why we still have guns in the first place. b-but if we dont have them, shit will go badly.
>>worse than sandy hook?
Google the worst school attack in US history, yes, worse than Sandy Hook, then come back and tell me how many guns were used. I'll wait,
Oh fuck, I'll even give you a hint -- zero.
>>689560821
Funny how anti gun anons ignore statistics
>>689560507
You think you're gonna bring down 17 people with that handgun as compared to the likelyhood of 10 confirmed rifle kills? That thing could have 500 rounds and still not be as efficient
>>689561623
> " i can't wait for america to become a warzone! if everyone has a gun there will be blood in the streets! never mind the fact that there are 100 million privately owned guns already, we need to get up to like 200 million and THEN there will be chaos i swear!"
>>689562311
Fuck, you're not supposed to double down on your ignorance, retard. Go google it already.
There are people in California alone, than the entire nation of Canada. Of course you'll have less of everything. Except lakes I guess.
But fuck this >>689556457
I do not fucking trust you with a gun close to me.
>>689562268
>Switzerland
>mandatory to have a full auto war-ready gnu with a little ammo and handgnu per adult per home
>mass shootings since Monday: zero
>>689562122
a constitutionally-protected right isn't a "problem", cuck.
>>689560238
So how many people do you think live in the US?
Protip: It's more than 100,000.
Controlling your wife is bad.
Controlling your gun is bad
Wife control is bad
Gun control is bad.
>>689561906
> "we're not trying to take your guns lol"
> "except we totally could if we wanted to"
Criminals do not obey the law.
Even if you make guns harder to obtain after banning guns, there will still be shootings and, worse yet, the populace will even be more vulnerable.
But hey, what do I know about constitutional rights and the right to defend myself? I'm just a silly ninny that posts on /b/.
>>689561992
Google said 12. hmmm
>>689562321
oh look, this meme again.
Why would you trust your government and criminals with a monopoly on the ability to inflict lethal force? It doesn't make anyone safer, it's just stupid.
>>689560507
The fuck does he hunt?
>>689561221
So? Your justification would also mean we shouldn't have cops because cops would be too slow to prevent it
>>689561144
Europe here. Its all starting to fade because of poor people flooding in for gibsmedats.
>>689560611
Nobody think the terrorists are coming to nebraska so they don't put the laws there, back to the barn to fuck your sister wife mama with you
>>689562321
The Second Amendment is naturally divided into two parts: its prefatory clause and its operative clause. The former does not limit the latter grammatically, but rather announces a purpose. The Amendment could be rephrased, “Because a well regulated Militia is necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.” See J. Tiffany, A Treatise on Government and Constitutional Law §585, p. 394 (1867); Brief for Professors of Linguistics and English as Amici Curiae3 (hereinafter Linguists’ Brief). Although this structure of the Second Amendment is unique in our Constitution, other legal documents of the founding era, particularly individual-rights provisions of state constitutions, commonly included a prefatory statement of purpose.
>>689562483
>worse
He actually thinks I meant "worst in US history". That's adorable.
>>689560238
>You realize you have some learning to do
>>689561822
>nuh-uh, it only counts if the bad guy getting shot is a MASS SHOOTER
>>689562691
If you don't need one, you don't have one. Simple. So yes they will take your dick substitute
>>689561463
You keep telling yourself that EVERYTHING but race can have an effect.
>>689562303
>i'd trust my neighbor with any kind of firearm before I'd trust the government with one
Translation: I trust my 600 pound near-sighted neighbor who can't hit the broad side of barn if he stood inside of it on a good day to take down a shooter in a high-stress situation more than I trust a trained professional who does this shit for a living. Because all cops are pigs and anarchy for life. Also, muh guns.
>>689560321
>http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting
I don;t think an incident where no people are killed an two injured counts as a "Mass Shooting," so I'm comfortable calling bullshit on your list.
If you want to say there is too much violence out there, I'm on board, but I'm not really interested in having a conversation with somebody who is using made-up data. If you have to lie to make your point, maybe rethink some things.
>>689562861
You think people give a shit. Now THAT'S adorable.
>>689560243
If the mass shooting was prevented then there wouldn't be a mass shooting to write about
>Old man tyrone been living in the hood his whole life
>He stopped gangbanging and wanted to have a decent life
>He gets a job at local store, making decent money
>Not enough to move out the hood, but enough to feel good about himself
>Thugs on his street corner want the cheddar
>He gets robbed one night
>Decides he needs to protect himself, goes to buy a gun
>Obama just made the vetting process harder, more govt red tape
>Gun store owners forced to raise the price of legal weapons by $100 to make up for the extra work
>Old man tyrone cant afford this raise in price
>He goes home empty handed
>Later that night the thugs break in again
>"Lol this old nigga dont fight back he a busta cj"
>Old man tyrone wakes up and tries to stop them with a broomhandle
>Gets shot and killed
The only thing gun laws do is make it harder for honest people to defend themselves.
>>689561057
Yeah I live in fucking Scandinavia on an island.
You can sitll get drugs from jail, way too many hookers are sex trafficked because that's usually the way things are when you make them illegal and guns aren't sold.
It will still take me about 10 minutes to get all three.
>>689562958
>strawmanning intensifies
>>689560766
Takes like 2 days to print a gun id imagine, a lot of 3d printers cost like 5 grand, you think anyone wants to have the most costly inefficient faux gun business?
>>689562321
Where does it say you must be PART of a well regulated militia?
It doesn't, its a prefatory clause indicating ONE IMPORTANT amongst MANY OTHERS that the PEOPLE have the right to keep and bear arms.
Stop twisting the truth. If you want change, you need to use the actual truth and say why that's bad.
>>689562734
Criminals usually get guns to perpetrate their crimes. If it isn't as simple as going down south to a gun show, there will be little point for them to obtain guns to do it. Ergo, they won't commit as many crimes because they don't have such EASY ACCESS to the means they'd need to commit them.
funny how that works. where's the profit in bombs? even criminals have to make money somewhere. in some cases, that's pretty much the only reason why they're criminals in the first place.
>>689561221
guy I met had three people try to mug him. Backed up against a car, and, when one inevitably went to threaten him, he pulled his gun on the guy.
His friend tried to get him from behind, but at that point he literally put his gun barrel in the kid's mouth. That got their attention, and they stayed like that until the cop came.
He kept his head and got out safe and without being robbed. That's how you handle a situation properly.
>>689559173
I do need to defend myself from people who don't have guns. I am a skinny dude and it is cool that I can (hypothetically) pull a gun on big dudes if they attack me.
God made men (and women). The Smith and Wesson company made them equal.
Tbh I don't understand why LGBT people aren't more enthused about having guns for self defense since they typically can't defend themselves by hand if they're attacked by an average male
Also gun control happened when Black Panthers started carrying guns to police the police
These are my SJW-friendly pro-gun arguments, use at your own discretion
>>689562209
Do you not know what "per capita" means? Or did I just miss your point, maybe?
>>689561533
Get a friend, oops there goes all the defenders glad these guns were so easy to buy
>>689562609
It's mandatory because those people are forced into the Swiss militia, you faggot. They have a more strict and advice version of our draft/selective service.
>>689562243
But, to be fair to him, he lies a lot so maybe he didn't really mean it.
>>689561934
Enemies? We are talking about thugs who rob houses and the ocassionaly nut or terrorist.
And basically what u want is a world where i cannot even adequately protect myself in my own home. If a robber comes in unarmes sure i can probably fight him off...if he comes in with a bat or a knife i may be able to, or i might be killed and the same could happen to my familly. If he manages to get a hold of any sort of gun via illegal means then im just right fucked. The police arent there, depending on how careful the criminal is they might not even know amything is wrong until i dont show up for work, then all thats left is to scrape us off the floor.
What you people never seem to understand is that there are terrible people out, a minority, but they are there. And life is a dice roll. If u are ok with those odds than so be it. But I'm not comfortable doing so.
>>689562506
Yeah. I train with mine because Im a responsible owner. Also, when theyre all in a crowd, how does that matter. its like shooting at a wall, as long as you point it at it, youre gonna hit something. Its not like youre shooting from across the street
>>689561514
de-funding extracurricular activities is what US educational system needs.
The dependency on the school system has produced young useless population of drug dependent manchildren that play vidya all day and masturbate to Anime.
It's laughable at international standards how kids in US are unable to do the simplest of tasks, they are as disassociated with the idea of reality as it can get.
As such, many people grow up thinking they are in some kind of movie, or thinking none of their actions have some kind of responsibility.
What needs to be done is treating teenagers like adults, giving them though responsibilities and being as direct as it can get.
I think more than a hundred lives would've been saved if teachers and institutions weren't afraid of saying the hard trues. Like "guns are meant to kill" "rape is more common than what you think" "don't fucking go to bad neighborhoods if you don't want to get shot" "don't fucking do drugs if you want to be a total fuck up" "If you don't want to grow up expect no one to take you seriously"
>>689562958
my neighbor is a 160lb 55 year old man who's been working the same steady groundskeeper job for like 30 years
He's basically an even more buttoned up version of Hank Hill because he doesn't even drink beer or if he does it's in his own house.
>>689563076
>think people give a shit
>he bothered to type out
>he bothered to reply in the first place
>>689561586
I'd love to see a 50 kill streak with a brick you fucking moron. People can always kill, just take away how efficiently it can be done
>>689562933
on the relative violence of a person? Yeah, it probably has less to do with race than level of education, level of income, and surroundings.
That's usually what a culture consists of, is resources, education, and surroundings, so it's no surprise it's what causes the most violence.
Or have you never thought to break down the things that have to do with crime rate?
>>689563258
Looks like the guns themselves aren't the problem then, my dear fag
>>689562763
deer. he has a 6in barrel for it and loads all his own rounds
>>689563156
....
its the first sentence of the 2nd amendment in the bill of rights, you fucking retard.
"The Second Amendment of the United States Constitution reads: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
>literally the first 4 words
>>689562400
B-but I know more then you by living in my moms basement and watching John Oliver and John Stewart
>>689562913
if guns are meant to represent dicks, does that explain why you're so obsessed with grabbing them?
>>689563119
one has an adjustable stock so you can be more comfortable while shooting your babycop killer rounds
>>689561788
Yes we should
In the last 30 days, there were 217 Islamic attacks in 32 countries, in which 2186 people were killed and 2172 more injured.
Fortunately, most of the victims were other Muslims, so little of value was lost.
>>689563252
oh yay three murders is worth $250.
That's actually not the going price of a murder, so not wise. Having cops on your dick for years because of a month's worth of weed? Fuck no.
>>689562086
We are trying to do something about it. Pro gun organization's whose original job was to promote safety and educate about firearms so people could own them and protect themselves. Lately they have been kinda busy trying to fight against having american rights stripped away. So im sorry if they have fallen behind on that.
>>689563467
the fertilizer makes a great bomb.
>>689563121
drugs in jail*
>>689562958
> "i'll call gun owners rednecks because i dont have an actual argument! that will show them!"
>>689562547
You go do it. Learn something. If I bring you any information conflicting with your world view you'll write it off one way or another.
Go google it and find me evidence that the 'good guy with a gun" strategy does anything but get people shot in the vast majority of cases.
For every positive outcome you'll find dozens of negative ones.
>>689563564
Amazing, no matter our confrontation. Nicely done.
>>689563554
>The breakfast has the right to food.
>>689563554
You have to go back.
>>689563483
But they also have more strict laws when it comes to purchasing guns in the first place. You have to pass a mental examination and gun safety courses in Switzerland. Not in the US. Maybe you should use those guns you love to show off to your faggot friends to kill yourself.
