You can't refute this
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Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
You can't refute this
>>689357382
>can't refute this
>because I provided no facts to refute other than his name
>>689357382
america deserved what happened
>>689357510
>butthurt neckbeard retarded faggot
you guys are ridiclulous
>>689357382
americans are just plain stupids
>>689357382
buy a military assault rifle in a supermarket..
you deserve it
>>689357382
He killed 49, not 50
And of course, if there were gun reform, he would have never done what he did - in fact, he would be a really good guy.
>>689357382
>implying freedom is free.
>>689357382
He was NOT the only shooter.
>>689357656
>stupids
Hmmmmmm
>>689357382
So tell me how well France's gun laws stopped ISIS...
Had a single person in that club been carrying, this would have been prevented. The only gun reform we need is to let more good people have them.
>>689357382
And where did he buy this "military- grade assault rifle with high-capacity magazine" from?
just don't sell guns to Muslims, they are pretty easy to spot
>>689357382
So what your saying is, he was on a terror watch list and was still able to buy a gun because the government failed to stop him, so we need the government to make more laws? Right. Ok. Sure. So the next goat fucker makes a bomb and kills every faggot in the bar, not just 50.
>>689357646
And you still haven't provided any facts to refute. Kys
>>689357382
no official record of him being unstable. ex-wife only said he beat her after the fact. never reported it. No criminal record. Never investigated by the FBI, they "had taken an interest in him but he was never the target of a specific FBI investigation"
So, basically, the first two points are mute because any background check would not have found those things out since his ex-wife never pressed charges and there is no record of him being mentally unstable. The third point is simply untrue.
Omar "See a fag, empty the mag" Mateen.
He fought faggotry and once again showed us that its way too easy to kill a bunch of people, atleast in the USA.
>>689357913
>provided facts
do you not watch the news?
>>689357382
he killed 49.
the 50th death was him.
>refuted
>>689357510
he didnt even give a name retard
>>689357760
lol
right, they dont tell people because they wouldnt want to scare them.
And good thing ALL the media is on board with this too.
dumbass.
>>689357382
gun brabber schills out in force this mornin
>>689357760
yes he was. Orlando pd has addressed that rumor
There's no argument against gun reforms. All you neckbeard faggots say "but I need muh guns for muh protections". When has that ever helped any mass shooting situation? Granted, taking guns way wouldn't stop gun crime but there is no denying it'd lower it. You don't NEED guns, if you're so fascinated with combustion then go light a match or some shit.
>>689357767
>So tell me how well France's gun laws stopped ISIS...
>Had a single person in that club been carrying, this would have been prevented. The only gun reform we need is to let more good people have them.
american retards literally think this and see nothing wrong. i hope the next terrorists kills all the white men
>>689357760
Because guccimennequin said so? Lol
>>689357382
Yeah i dont think we do OP. FUCK OFF this is america it cant be done.
>>689357382
"military-grade"? I thought full-auto weapons were banned pretty much every where in the States?
>>689357382
yep this will make guns less available. it's impossible to dispute it a tthis point. we need to keep guns out of the hends of nutcases like this
>>689357382
>Islam known to be homophobic
>Isis already making threats against Florida
>Not all Muslims are bad!
>Shoots up gay bar
Still don't think we need to ban Muslims?
>>689358037
>facts
>news
niggers tongue my anus
>>689357382
>three times
>blames guns. not the nsa for monitoring everyone instead of focusing on the crazies
>>689357382
>no questions asked
Bullshit.
Where can i buy an AR-15?
Oh thats right, fucking anywhere.
>>689357889
The government has zero ability to stop someone from buying a weapon even if they're on the terror watchlist. Thank the NRA for that.
He bust a cap in a trap
I'm a britbong so I'm not 100% sure but he had a fully auto rifle which you can't just go and buy can you?
Also plenty of other countries where you can own guns, America is the only one with regular mass shootings, so clearly this is not a problem due to the ownership of guns.
Also also, sauce on "facts" you posted?
>>689357947
>first two points are mute.
>mute.
Moot, you fucking inbred.
>>689358267
Questions are answered, claims are refuted. How the fuck are this retarded?
>>689358241
You can't ban a religion. It's America, dumbfuck.
>>689358045
Savage
>>689358333
Fuck me, my grammar was fucked up there. Hopefully my trips make up for it.
>>689358310
we need to punish the poeple who sold this asshole the gun too. that will make people think twice before just trying to grab some $$
>>689357767
They didn't, but it'd be worse without them.
>>689357947
The word you're looking for is 'moot.'
>>689358241
ban ALL religions or none. that's your choices in america faggot. you don't like it? move the fuck somewhere else.
>>689357382
ALLAHU AKBAR!!!
>>689357767
>The only gun reform we need is to let more good people have them.
Soo,.. when, do you reckon, the society is sufficiently saturated with weapons, so that no more shootings will happen? When everybody over the age of 18 has a gun, or 16, or 12?, hell make it a nice and early 5 years old. That will surely stop murders from happening.
Can't wait for it.
ameritards need to go
>>689358333
He had an AR-15, which is semi-auto. He bought it legally. It is just a 5.56 rifle with large magazines.
It is one of the weakest calibers you can buy.
>>689357382
Likely an unregistered gun
fuck off
>>689358311
Underated post and nice dubs checked.
>>689358450
I'm assuming you didn't the referenced post. They CAN'T stop them from buying these weapons. The NRA has their hand in so many politicians pockets atm that nothing will change until some reform happens.
>>689358333
First of all, check'd
Secondly, it wasn't an automatic rifle, semi-automatic. In the US you can obtain an automatic rifle but it requires a class 5 FFL license which basically means the government gets to monitor every single thing in your life.
This is a mudslime problem, not a gun problem. Look at the cities in the US with the strictest gun laws and you'll see they also have the highest crime rates, murder rates, gun violence rates. Conversely, the cities with the most ccw permit holders have the lowest crime rate.
I would also bet money that the nightclub had a big "No Guns Allowed" sign
But he killed homosexuals so it's ok
>>689357382
Why didnt the FBI have abetter handle on this guy uf they knew of him and have all this fucking spy shit on alk our phones and computers.
Hold the FBI responsible
>>689358371
moot is gone, deal with it.
>>689358623
well we need to change that shit. it's that simple. if they can't then we need to allow them to.
>>689357382
Didnt know he was abusive
Didnt know he was unstable
He had no criminal history, are we just supposed to take away peoples rights for suspicions now? The fucking fbi didnt think he was going to do anything thats why they let him go, what the hell would more gun control do
>>689358333
fuck off you dumb limey nig
>>689357382
as opposed to easily buying a gun in mexico and walking it through the open border?
The guys in paris had no problem smuggling assault weapons, and europe has walls
>>689358736
get accused of abuse? of violent acts? guns go away.
>>689358736
He had ties with terrorists and they knew that. Yet he was still able to purchase those weapons legally.
>>689357382
Calling am ar-15 an assault rifle and a standard 30 round mag a "high capacity magazine". Kill yourself you lib loving faggot. That sand nigger is the issue, not the sporting rifle.
>>689358816
so fix that shit too, wtf.
>>689358736
>He had no criminal history, are we just supposed to take away peoples rights for suspicions now?
This is true. The two times the FBI investigated him, he came up clean. He wasn't even on a terrorist watch list, so even if Obama could keep people from buying guns on a terrorist watch list, it wouldn't have stopped this.
Brit fags bitching again! How bout you go get your asses kicked by the Russians again fucking dumbfags!
>>689357760
It's also possible she was confused in the chaos. People thought it was three dudes in the San Bernardino shootings. Also, he could have been using his Muslim magic trick of deception to make it look like it was three of them.
>>689358895
then we need to have it include people suspected of having connections to them. we need some sort of psych evaluation too.
>>689357720
Walmart doesn't sell assault rifles. And they hardly sell the dressed up deer rifle ar15 anymore.
>>689357760
He was the only shooter.
>>689357767
Wasn't there a cop in the club with a gun. There was a gun fight if I'm not mistaken
>>689358957
It was him, Muhammad, and Allah
>>689359006
Anyone can be "suspected" of anything. You need some burden of proof if you want to restrict people of their constitutional freedoms.
>>689358826
He didnt get accused of either
>>689358849
They thought he was safe, they couldve prevented it if they wanted but they didnt becahse they didnt think it was a problem if the fucking government police think you should be allowed to buy guns, you should
Anyone who buys an ar-15 or anything greater than a shotgun or rifle needs to be investigated at length. pscyh evaluations, watched closely. investiagted first when crimes happen.
the people who sell them need to be punished for acts commited with the guns.
let's end this nonsense now.
>>689357382
My question is how did he get into the club with an assault rifle?
>>689358444
ayy lmao
>>689358333
No you can't, the libcucks like to say 'military grade' and 'assault weapon' to denote mainly aesthetic features of a semi-auto rifle, for the sole purpose of drumming up fear reactions.
>>689359223
He DID have connections with terrorists that they knew about.
Millerreport.us has the news for gun reform and how its going to kill the American people come stop by and say hi
France doesn't allow guns.
His conclusion is that shall issue laws, which allow citizens to carry concealed weapons, steadily decrease violent crime. He explains that this result makes sense because criminals are deterred by the risk of attacking an armed victim. As more citizens arm themselves, the danger to criminals increases.
>>689359280
Walk in. If someone stops you, shoot them and keep going.
>>689359223
that's enough for us right now. even just suspected of something and you own guns like this? you will get a visit by the authorities. if you resist, then you get gunned down in your house before you can commit anything like this.
>>689358866
Sporting rifle ?
>>689357382
Fib failed to realize red flags
>>689358303
Still doesn't make it an assault rifle
>>689358884
fix mexico? bruh.
>>689359326
He knew some guy. You aren't guilty by association in America.
Won't make any difference. If shooting little kids at Sandy Hook didn't make amerifags change their laws then 50 fags in florida is no chance. Fuckin idiots.
>>689357382
>You can't refute this
Sure I can. FUCK OFF AND DIE, JEW GUN-GRABBING SCUM. 70 million guns killed NO ONE yesterday.
One programmed psycho is not an excuse to usurp the Second Amendment.
>>689357760
No guys, this is serious, ok?!?
My brother's friend's cousin was there too, and he said there were 10 shooters
TEN SHOOTERS, and one was actually a Bigfoot
This kind of unverified fear-based hearsay is EXACTLY as reliable as the dozens of professional police interviews with eyewitnesses, dont try to deny it
He was a security guard, would have been able to get his hand on a rifle regardless of if they are legal.
>>689357382
Don't inflict a gun reform on the yanks - give them more guns, bigger guns, heavier guns.
If they shoot each other, maybe they won't bomb the rest of the world like they've been doing since effin' 1945.
>>689359444
you're guilty enough to get a full investigation if you then buy guns of any sort. anyone buying these guns need to be reported by the sellers. if they don't, and something like this happens, then the sellers need to get in trouble too.
>>689358310
being on a "watch list" doesn't strip someone of their rights. That would require a trial by a jury of their peers, retard.
>>689359416
>look at me, mom! i'm using semantics on the internet so i look smart!
regardless, it's still too easy to kill a large group of people with one
>>689359445
Nothing will be done. Americans, especially conservatives, are numb to violence. And no one gives a fuck about children. Conservatives don't want to feed children, and liberals don't even want to give birth to them.
America just sucks.
>>689359007
Ar 15 isn't a deer rifle and actually isn't legal to take big game with in a lot of states. It's a varmint rifle at best unless you get it chambered for a larger round.
All these retards ITT calling it an Assault rifle. Bunch of nonsense. An assault rifle only qualifies to be one if it has select fire capability and it fires an intermediate round. In this case the AR15 does not pass the assault rifle test because his was not full auto but a semi variant. Please stop spreading ignorance and being useful idiots at the expense of educated gun owners.
>>689357382
If he didn't have guns, he just would have done it with a machete.
Anyone got the obama quote one?
>>689358575
I know about calibers and shit, I just have no clue about the process of buying a firearm.
>>689358675
I've never heard of fully auto guns in the US so I assumed they were straight up illegal. And I totally agree with you on the mudslide thing. The amount of shit I've seen that shows that niggers are the problem is just too much to disagree with. And I also agree with the fact that if someone had a gun in that club then there would've been a much larger chance of nobody/less people dying. >>689358807
You jealous of my white master race skin? And also what you've just said is "I cannot refute your point therefore I will insult you and try to belittle what you actually said"
3000+ died from an airplanes smashing into a 2 building. When death is your objective you will find a way to carry out your destruction. Why do people take out the human behind the destruction when there's a gun involved? Guns don't kill people, people kill people.
So if this fag had domestic violence wheres the charges? He was on fbi 'radar'but nothing serious they stake him out..look even if this islamfag pledged to isis what else is new pledging to them is like most you fags here pledging to the nazi party! Its funny tho cause it don't matter who the president is here in murica there will always be a mass murder! You can take guns they still will be snuck in..it can be a bomb..blades anything. .fact is this lslamfag hated gays and wanted them gone message sent..i just wonder tho if this is setting up for something greater!
>>689359556
There are around 300 million guns in America. You have any idea what you are talking about? You might as well report every American.
>>689358575
5.56 is not weak
>>689359680
if you can picture going out to shoot deer with the gun then it's not an assault weapon. this one clearly was an assault weapon. stop trying to make shit more muddy.
any guns that are only used for killing people should have tighter controls.
>>689359394
That's the literal definition of an ar15, use the google
>>689357382
Easy.
Keep muslims out.
10/10 b8 there m8 had a giggle.
>>689359688
all the 50?
that shit aint military grade nigga
>>689359796
nope, only guns like this that you can't conceivable hunt with.
and who cares. we start now and we move forward with sales. sure we won't catch every one but it will still be better.
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."
>realhero
>freedomfighter
>godslittlehelper
>>689358575
it was 223
>>689359840
he was an american citizen you dumb fuck
>>689357382
nor this. Obama's a pussy.
lol i live in florida i legally can't buy any gun and i have no criminal record
if you think passing a law restricting guns will solve this, why dont you pass a law restricting shooting other people ?
Is it hard to get a gun when you're a foreigner?
>>689359976
isis didn't attack you dumb faggot. some closeted homosexual wanted to kill fags and he blamed it on isis. it isn't like they were controlling him. they knew nothing about him.
>>689359394
There are hunting rifles, sporting rifles (which are also hunting rifles), "assault weapon" rifles (aka hunting rifles), and assault rifles (triple burst or full-auto). Without a special license that is damn hard to get, and outright impossible in many parts of the country, all you can get is a sporting rifle.
>>689360046
because they want to die and they don't care about laws. they don't care about punishment. how dumb are you?
>>689358720
good luck. the nra buys politicians daily. they get their money from gun makers, dues and donations which is a huge amount of money per year. they have lot invested in perpetuating the idea that the government's sole focus is to take away your guns regardless how far from reason it is.
>>689359976
I believe u.s has taken out isis with drone strikes and taken out some top guys..check your facts you dumb faggot!
>>689358575
>He had an AR-15, which is semi-auto.
A witness interviewed said he was firing an automatic.
>>689359816
Are you legit retarded? Assault rifle has a standard definition, it must be able to fire in a fully automatic or burst capacity. Ar 15 rifles are only capable of firing one round at a time, so they are not assault rifles.
>>689357382
Wasn't a military grade weapon. They weren't high cap mags. Refuted successfully.
>>689360153
lol you say that like certain politicians wouldn't literally ban every gun today if they had the power to do so
>>689358562
>stop murders from happening
Yeah because the only weapon that kills is a gun. Shootings will happen anyway. If you stop the flow of guns then illegal trade will take over in gun deals. I'd rather have everyone armed including the good people than have just one radical fucktard with a gun against as many unarmed civilians as he likes.
>>689357815
kek
>>689360198
witness dont know what they fuck theyre talking about
>>689360224
then clearly the fucking label is too restricted. stop trying to play cute games. any gun only used to kill people needs to have tighter controls.
>>689357382
Get back to
>>689357382
"Bought a military grade assault rifle"
Actually he bought an AR15, which is stuck to simi-auto AND requires some decent modifications to change to a burst fire or automatic fire model, thus is NOT a "Military Grade Assault Rifle"
I'll agree 100%, that there needs to be things in place to prevent people like him from buying guns, IE a database that flags people under investigation by the FBI for terror connections for instance?
>>689360127
>because they want to die and they don't care about laws. they don't care about punishment. how dumb are you?
Im not the one in a gay bar getting fragged when I was looking to get rammed, so Idk, not much ?
>>689357382
Fox News, and a few republicans are trying to divert the attention away by calling this an Islamic attack.. What a bunch of shitbags, using this tragedy to promote their anti-Islamic agenda.
>>689360224
3 rnd burst faggot, shave the firing pin down too, not hard
>>689359816
I can hunt dear with an AR15 though. As for tighter restrictions, why are you so asinine towards gun owners? You realize there are millions of us right. Millions who do not committ crime. Fyi most anything can kill human beings.
>>689360198
>witness
>gay bar
>expects witness to know the difference between semi-auto and full auto while people are being shot
>being this dumb
>>689360198
Eyewitness testimony is almost always flawed. Also, google 'AR-15 bumpfire' to see how easy it is to legally turn a semi-automatic AR-15 into an automatic weapon.
Legally.
>>689359913
>only guns like this that you can't conceivable hunt with
And you can't hunt with a .22 rifle? An AR-15 is not a powerful rifle. If you are talking about something like a Barrett .50, which is used to take out vehicles, then you should know they are not used in mass shootings because of their unwieldy recoil, small magazines, high price ($7,000 at the low end), and heavy ammo.
>>689358214
You need a lisence to buy full auto rifles.
Chances are he didn't buy the rifle full auto but converted it.later
>>689360046
>if you think passing a law restricting guns will solve this, why dont you pass a law restricting shooting other people ?
Because liberals are the dumbest fucking idiots alive right now.
>>689360376
you CAN hunt with anything, even a bazooka or a drone. so what?
Funny how he was a registered Democrat.
>>689359858
As many as he could. In Islam it doesn't matter how many people you murder, all that matters is that you murdered.
>>689360198
Most nogunz don't know the different between an AR-15 and an M16. It was really scary for them, and they thought it was full auto.
>>689360434
this dude loved selfies, and selfies are gay so....
>>689360229
there are obviously politicians on both sides of the fence but the money going in to keep guns in the hands of the average billy bob is far exceeding that to stop them. congress is run off money so you can see why there hasn't been reform.
there has to be an infographic somewhere that shows the point at which money gets trumped by kids being shot up by assault rifles in schools before something gets done.
>>689357382
We, need to be able to better evaluate and understand mental illness to prevent such things from happening. The only thing I agree with on "gun control" is background checks along side a basic mental stability check. But anyone that thinks getting rid of guns would help this issue are morons living in a drean world. If those guys didn't hace guns they would've used a car, or a bomb, or a combination, or they could've made their own guns with very simple items you can get from any hardware store.
>>689357382 You do know that there are other ways to get guns right even if you do it wont madder anyhow....Background checks only go so far. Getting a unregistered gun is not hard at all going past the law.
>>689360338
Sure, the government monopoly on violence should definetly be maintained.
>>689360376
I can hunt deer with a tomahawk missile. Come at me bro, second amendment. I'm getting muh nuclear warhead tomorrow. Ain't no government going to take away muh rights.
>>689360198
Probably doesn't even understand the term. Dumb cunt. If I were nogunz and saw someone firing rapidly into my crowd and I'm hysterical I'd probably think it were full auto also.
>>689360376
learn to bow hunt faggot
>>689360393
>Also, google 'AR-15 bumpfire' to see how easy it is to legally turn a semi-automatic AR-15 into an automatic weapon
I have a bump stock. It does not, in any way turn my semi-auto into a fully auto.
It does speed up the semi-auto firing, but it is nowhere near fully auto. Trust me.
america will always have the right to bear arms, but had he only been able to buy a pistol....he would only have been able to wreak a fraction of the havoc and could have been brought down or over-powered a damn sight easier.
Rifles shouldn't be banned outright either, but we should insist on folks being scrutinised a whole lot more, trained and certified a whole lot more. Only after 1000 hours at the range and in the classroom or Veterans and current/retired law enforcement.
don't ban 'em, just legislate the shit outta them.
>>689357510
>didn't provide name
>you're a spastic
This is a Youtube that shows how to turn a legal AR-15 into a fully automatic one. Again, legally.
/watch?v=_U6tORrODJE
>>689357767
Look up how many shootings have been stopped because someone else was carrying
>protip: it's almost none
America has a Muslim problem. Its that simple.
>>689359532
Sorry that we saved Europe from financial collapse you flaming British cunt. Why don't you worry about your nanny state and we'll worry about us.
>>689358671
HERP DERP
DIBS BEDORA!
>>689359726
Yeah but a person is more likely to kill another person if they had a gun.
>inb4 "hurr durr people can kill with knives too"
Don't be a retard, guns are more deadly than knives
>>689358214
They aren't you need a special stamp
>>689357382
Any of the people in that club could just have EASILY bought a small pistol to defend themselves with.
>>689360441
Exactly so what? It's just a rifle like anyone's old hunting rifle. It still fires only one round when the trigger is pulled. If you are afraid of cosmetics, god forbid you continue to live on this earth where people value things you can not appreciate.
>>689360744
>Look up how many shootings have been stopped because someone else was carrying
You're incorrect as usual.
http://www.thedailysheeple.com/12-recent-stories-of-self-defense-with-firearms_012013
http://gunssavelives.net/
http://thewellarmedwoman.com/women-and-guns/survival-stories
>>689359089
>implying stealing a plane or building a bomb is at easy as buying a gun for a few bucks and go shoot up some faggots at a bar
kek dense bro
>>689358162
How about you refute it?
>>689360393
the witness compared the weapon firing speed to his full-auto dildo speed, and concluded the weapon must have been full auto too
either that or he compared the amount of butt-blast the weapon did to his full auto dragon dildo
>>689359089
Godless? Retard they kill for GOD
>>689357913
You can't refute something that is a fact, dumbass.
>>689360744
It's not "almost" none, it *is* none.
>>689360768
Nice right-wing diversionary tactics that also serve the purpose of your anti-Islamic bigoted beliefs.
>>689360768
when muslims kill more americans than any other group i'll agree with you. right now they have a long way to go. the guy that this asshole beat for number of victims was white. most of them are white or black. give it up.
we need to figure out a way to stop ALL mass shootings, not just ones commited by muslims.
>>689359973
>swears allegiance to isis in 911 call right b4 attack (which is super suspicios btw)
>no guys, he was an american citizen
>>689360866
they pat you down doofus
>>689359973
>American Muslim
Illinois has some of the most strict gun laws in the U.S. and Chicago is a gun free zone...not sure how it got the nickname Chiraq if nobody has any guns????
but seriously I would support nationwide gun laws similar to what illinois has. Background check before you get you Firearm Owners Identification Card and background checks and waiting periods before you purchase a gun. Its annoying at times but its just crazy how you can just walk in somewhere buy a gun and walk out with it
>>689361049
it doesn't matter what he swears allegiance to. he was born in america. why is that hard to understand you dumb fuck?
>>689357382
>military grade
No it wasn't
>high capacity
Buzz word and not a thing. Anything over 10 can be high capacity
Tryhardfaggot/10
>>689360393
Bumpfire is nothing near fully automatic. It's at best a parlour trick. Accuracy goes out the window as does reliability.
>>689360615
Good luck passing the regulations anon. With enough time and money I'm sure you could.
>wait! I thought I stumped his argument!
Well anon, you could own anything you want. Unless responsibility for your possessions and an unwarranted fear or hate of firearms and munitions terrifies you. In which case you're more suited for a life bent over and taking it.
>>689357382
Exactly why Trump is not fit to be president. He and other republicans are trying to sway the attention away from the real problem, private gun ownership.
That is why I am voting for Hillary. She will continue working on this problem just like Bill Clinton did.
>>689359324
Yup, "military grade" has them shitting their pants like it means extra killing power. Nope, it just means that it was approved for purchase by the govt for purchase. Just like an MRE would be military grade as are wool socks issued for cold weather. Same as "mil-spec" means it was designed to military supplied standards and approved for govt consumption. People are fucking stupid and scared of words
>>689359726
People kill people... it's just easier for people to kill more people when in this case a semi automatic rifle is involved.
>>689357815
Top kek
>>689361049
He was born in America. He was a radicalized citizen. He wasn't a refugee. He didn't immigrate here. He was born here, and he was a citizen by birth right.
>>689361159
>dumbfuck
>:^)
>>689361049
Dumbass why would that stop you from being an American citizen?
>>689360906
I love your sources. Real hard hitting journalist sites there faggot.
>>689360375
How the fuck would shaving the firing pin do anything? Are you talking about the sear?
>>689361234
exactly. we need better common sense, effective gun control in this country and hillary is the only one to do it.
>>689360631
Why would I? Primitive weapons are primitive for a reason anon. I rather be able to see the deer and shoot it. Way more fun too.
>>689360987
>>689361009
Ban teenagers (or make them walk through metal detectors) and for sure ban mudslimes? Ok, cool.
Im impressed /b/ is this filled up with you soft bitch niggers, but Im not surprised anymore.
>>689360669
You really believe rifles are that much more deadly?? You do know rifles only increase muzzle velocity and accuracy down range. Pistols are optimal for indoor close quarter combat. Most mass shootings happen from very close to the targets, usually no more that 5yards away. All except for that college shooter a while back.
https://youtu.be/MjnsBH9jGxc
>>689358109
If someone in that place besides him had a gun, he could have been shot dead before he had the chance to kill a lot of those faggots.
But then the chances of anyone in a fag bar having a gun on them is kinda slim.
>>689361009
The whole world has a muslim problem that needs to be eliminated by force.
>>689360066
Only a little. You can buy a gun with a valid state ID. If you are just visiting, then it will be difficult. You can buy a gun at a gun show without an ID, but you'll have to come off as not foreign.
>>689361249
yeah you can tell he is american by his american name and american beliefs
>>689360744
I would be terrified to be an undercover cop at this time in US history. Dressed in normal clothing and actually have to draw a firearm could go terribly wrong if some Joe Bob thinks the cop is a terrorist and starts unloading on him.
>>689360669
Won't work.
>>689361117
Colorado doesn't have a gun problem or a murder problem and we have pretty lenient gun laws.
>>689361458
Cops are the real terrorists
>>689361429
are you saying americans can only be christian?
wow, this is yuor typical trump supporter right here.
>>689357382
Ok..? You have a point you want to say, just say it instead of holding back and showing us a vague detail of the crime scene...
>>689361375
Because it makes it a sport. Gun vs deer is not a sport
>>689361521
Just bunch of disgusting pot heads
>>689361388
a sane person with a gun there would probably help him kill more fags
>>689361521
wtf are you talking about? all it takes is one. orlando didn't have a problem with mass shooters until this one, dummy
>>689361429
Your name and belief don't make you an American citizen.
>>689359816
He said assault rifle, not assault weapon. They are actually two different terms.
Assault rifle essentially refers to its function, assault weapon is a blanket statement created by morons for scary looking guns.
>>689361616
Says you. What are you some asshurt europoor?
>>689357382
yeah but after gun "reform" the same people with the same ideologies will exist and just save a little bit more money for illegal firearms and bombs.
the entire gun debate is a financial campaign that abuses weak as fuck politicians.
>>689361670
Orlando is a bit of a shit place though
>>689361554
you probably think the lunar landing was staged and george w planned 9/11 huh?
go jerk more of your edge lord buddies off on cop block
>>689358563
>UN
>having military forces belonging to anyone other than the US
fuckin' lol
also
>implying they live inside their tanks long term
Why can't I ditch my rifle in the bushes and then grab it when they get out of the tank for the UNs daily dicking by foreign interests?
>>689361388
>des him had a gun, he could have been shot dead before
Off duty cop had one
Aussie and Euro fags get stabbed and they cant even do anything about it.
Cucks.
>>689361388
That must really fuck with retards like you, huh? Do you hate Muslims or teh gheys more? I do appreciate the "well if everyone had guns" thing you are doing though - Im thinking everyone should wear bullet proof vests too.
>>689361625
Yeah, you're jealous of out amazing state. Low obesity, high freedom, nice people, nice weather and fresh air. Have a great day friend.
>>689357382
If he was not homophobic, this wouldn't have happened, I agree, there should be a better gun control, I can still buy a military grade weapon with huge mags but, with better background check
You can still mass kill people with other things
>>689357382
oh boy
600rnd assault clipazine shit again
>>689361585
or maybe the belief that its ok to shoot faggots ?
>>689361795
Actually I don't believe either of those fag
>>689360987
so this kind of thing never happens?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQiiHk_Lujw
>>689361754
nope, actually live in North Carolina where there are almost more mullets and GED's per capita than any other state.
>>689361670
Florida has a very high crime rate, what was your point? You want to take freedoms away because something might happen? We have all the important gun laws anyways.
>>689358109
Probably when you target a place to shoot up like a school or club where there is no guns allowed, it's pretty easy.
>>689361196
Regulations? Those are only used to confiscate muh weapons! I'm a sovereign citizen and I bow down to no government regulations. I will buy an apache helicopter equipped with tomahawk missiles and 10,000 50 caliper rounds to protect me from HUSSEIN OBAMA who will probably declare himself king in the next few months anyways. he is a MUSLIM.
I already bought an old missile silo and I'm going to install an ICBM with a payload of 10mt to protect muh family.
>>689358579
even if it was "registered" (there's no registry in Florida), it still happened.
>>689361521
Yes, as well as many other places. I guess im more for implementing background checks and foid cards, it wont stop you from buying a gun, it wont take your guns, and it would make the crazy gun reform people happy, and it may weed out a mentally unstable person or two from purchasing a gun
>>689360376
Some states don't allow you to hunt with an AR15. Why? Because the round is more likely to wound rather than kill.
Assault rifles and rifles derived from them are not these insanely powerful weapon the Brady campaign fears. They shoot smaller ammunition than traditional rifles, so a soldier can carry more.
lol birth right.., you're not a real american citizen unless you're white.
>>689361836
Triggered a faggot, it's like stealing candy from babies it's so easy.
>>689361837
Sure thing fag, I'm from mountain view California.. Doesn't get much better than that
Also, you can get a gun in the black market pretty easy, with or without gun control
go push your agenda somewhere else weirdo
>>689358826
Soooooooooooooooo, a witch hunt?
J'accuse!
Then imma come kill yo family if I don't like you, because now you're defenseless against home invaders with firearms
>>689362052
Yeah our state pretty much has those in place, you can't get a gun without a background check anyways, although it doesn't take long either, 10-15 minutes and your out with your new gun. Nothing wrong with background checks as long as the government doesn't get lazy with them and lets shit fall through the cracks.
>>689362029
Yes! This man gets it. Get in your silo and I will come get you when its all over.
>>689362052
I have no problem with this either.
Any history of violence, no guns for you. ANY ties to terrorism be it foreign or abroad, no guns for you.
>>689362191
>California
>good
Pick one
>>689357537
this
>>689357382
Holy fuck all them buzzwords
>>689362182
You mad?
>>689359359
This. Like, really, did you think there's a bin you can 'bin that rifle' in? I'm sure that he would have complied if the bin was there.
>>689357382
>Can't enforce laws we already have.
>People still break existing laws (murder)
>Need more laws
>>689362029
Topperkek
>>689362029
>50 caliper rounds
Not the smartest poster on here are you.
>>689357382
You fuckin retards
If you ban guns, the only difference will be that you have to buy a fucking gun from a dealer instead of a gun shop.It doesnt make a fucking difference a pistol is extremely fucking cheap.Terrorists will still find ways to smuggle their fucking aks and bombs and shit.But they have the advantage that only the police can stop them if nobody has fucking weapons with them.The only reason this guy racked up 50 kills was because no queer in this fucking world would carry a gun because he'd feel the need to suck it off.Why are you americlaps so fucking stupid and fat jesus christ it disgusts me
>>689357537
>>689362392
How are you enjoying your house made of sand? You must be upset we blew up your sheep with a drone strike or something.
>>689362029
You must have a lot of money and land. I'm sure you have all the proper paperwork and clearance from local government as well as any other authorities. If they deemed you trust worthy enough to own such things then by all means carry on.
I still fail to see why you continue to trump up these exaggerations as if you think there should be a limit to what you may get. There is none in most localities. If you have the time and money you could get an m2 .50 machine-gun and as much ammo to satisfy you. But why stop there? Get a 20mm! If such things bother you, you are no countrymen of mine and you are unfit to inherit the lands our great forefathers occupied. Why don't you move to Europe where you'll live amongst your naked defenseless ilk?
>>689362355
>be canada
>can get guns, but there's a license required (literally basic shit, similar to drivers license test)
>rarely if ever any mass shooting
if you can't or are unwilling to pass a basic competency test, why should you be allowed guns?
My house is filled with guns, and yeah, I agree.
>>689362478
>12 years old
>standard reply you "mad?"
>>689359525
>>689362100
I recognize that, but that's why you go for head shots.
>>689362518
Bang Bang Bang
>>689362647
shit son u got trolled
Facts.
Gun reform won't do shit when guns are already being obtained illegally. This will only leave those who want to get guns for legitimate defensive purposes unarmed.
Mateen's gun was bought ONLY after he passed tests that would be in Obama's new reform.
Mateen was already working in a security firm with a license for a firearm in a security operator's capacity.
Mateen obviously wasn't completely stupid as I personally know people in the security industry and they do not tend to employ idiots. So Mateen had to have been pretty level minded in some capacity.
Mateen's ex says he was abusive.
Mateen's ex-coworkers gave statements that the security firm they worked alongside in would not terminate Mateen when they knew Mateen was creating a toxic work environment with his ideals he ranted about.
Mateen began stalking coworkers and their families when said coworkers gave him any argument for his ideals.
Mateen's father has been close with several high-ranking politicians in the past.
The company that "Omar Mir Seddique Mateen" worked for is called G4S Security Company.
http://www.g4s.us/en-US/
>>689358562
30+ years ago Kennesaw, GA instituted a mandatory gun ownership law. Crime went down 89%.
>>689362378
California can buy your degenerate state and burn it if we want to
>>689361330
stay mad cunt, stay mad. Truth is, self defense gun stories are out there more than you think
>>689361836
if we're voting i definitely hate muslims more
>>689362712
Also, before you remark that a knife would have been what Mateen would have resorted to had there actually been a ban on guns, realistically - it probably wouldn't have made a difference.
>Crowded and loud club.
>Densely populated.
He could have probably cut down many if he was smart about it before rising an alarm.
Though guns have the fear factor. They have the loud bangs and a history that the media and liberals alike love immediately relating to violence when there's been equally more good that they've helped create for those in the world who wish to be part of society.
That's what Mateen wanted. He wanted ears, eyes and fear.
The only difference would have been in decibels most likely. Not in casualties.
>>689362565
logic and reason won't take my 2nd amendment away!@
>>689362540
and he blew your towers with your own planes... point ?
>>689362766
So keep going on about banning guns. He could have used a knife so ban those as well. Ban cans and gasoline, bolts and nuts to make pipe bombs and incendiary bombs. Ban pressure cookers as well. Ban improvised weapons like crowbars, hammers and pipe wrenches.
As long as man exists there will be war. There will be violence. There will be senseless death either by careless or malicious hands.
The key to true security is to not get hung up on these non-solution pipe-dreams like reforms, bans and other idealistic fantasies. How we are to deal with this issue is to stand firm with both wisdom and strength; Wisdom to know what to do when a problem occurs. And strength to do what needs to be done in the face of danger alongside like-minded individuals.
In the past mankind has never coward behind such fruitless and weak ideals as to simply rely on rules, laws and regulations to keep our enemies in check. Words spoken and written have never been without action and steadfastness to back it up.
The American people are opening the doors to their country for their enemies more so than those who fight to keep their guns or any politician ever could. You bicker about not wanting to call a Muslim extremist just that because you fear politial corectness and that it'd hurt their feelings or make them feel unwanted. Or you just fear being called a profiler.
Either way Americans need to stop being so weak and just act like Americans.
Tell any possible threat to fuck off. If they don't then handle the situation carefully. If you do this, many problems, current and future will be alleviated. Not all but many.
If you fail to do this, it will simply continue.
>>689362565
I don't disagree with you.
And no mass shootings, I mean, you're Canada. What's the point really?
>>689362310
we have the background check which like you said can take a few minutes, then we have waiting periods for different guns. I think i had to wait 2-3 days to get a 10-22 rifle, had to have a foid card, and background check
>>689362100
At closer range the shockwave from the bullet will easily shatter bones, skulls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTN6Du3MCgI
this song is gunna be big
>>689361379
the magazines are much larger and the bullets keep going. accuracy is moot when firing indiscriminately in a crowded room.
The point is: scrutinise as many people as you can, as in depth as possible. examiners/instructors would have a better chance to weed out crazy folks, y'know?
should we simply do nothing? we KNOW its not just muslims.
heck, If i am wrong and it makes no difference, laws can be rescinded.
solutions, people. what can we do about it that will make some sort of difference?
>>689359089
Madman kills 50 people in the name of a ''god'' then rightwings blames massacre on a ''Godless society''.
>>689362540
It isn't only sandniggers that say this
>>689358816
this it why we need the trump wall
I love how how gun nut idiots think that more people with guns would somehow mean less mass shootings rather than more, and that in storybook fashion, a good guy with a gun always beats a bad guy with a gun.
In reality, more people will often end up killed as how do you identify the actual bad guy if you see a gun fight break out without context?
>>689359615
Cars, Pipe Bombs, Pressure Cooker Bombs
I can rent an airplane and knife the instructor after we take off for less than 300 dollars' cheap, self-propelled kinetic projectile
Also, Lethal Chemicals you can ALSO (they don't even sell ar15s anymore) buy at wal-mart
It's like, you didn't even give it any real thought. You just found guns to be the scapegoat.
If you really want to solve the safety problem give up your freedom. All of it.
>>689362826
it was my first post in the thread
>>689362712
>when guns are already being obtained illegally
same tired old bullshit arguement
>what is supply and demand
>>689362740
You know what's great about living here? Having water. Know what else is nice about living here? Not breathing in smog. Want to know something else great about living here? It's not California.
>>689362554
Why should you need paperwork or clearance to follow the second amendment? Or... are you trying to say the second amendment has limits? I HOPE NOT ANON, THEMS LIBURAL WORDS!
>>689357382
>military grade rifle with high capacity magazine
High capacity = over 5 rounds
So is pic related also a military grade high capacity precision rifle?
>>689362938
obvious sand nigger
you can't fool me with your sand nigger witchcraft!
>>689363013
Uh, the bad guy is the one shooting random men women and children maybe?
>>689362712
>Facts
That go against what happened after every gun reform in every other place.
>>689357760
>because the gov. and media do not want to scare everyone
You fucking amerifat realize that this is the only form of government your country has? holy shit.
>>689363043
>flyover guy is angry
>>689362833
Nothing wrong with that, better than having mentally ill people get guns easily.
>>689363081
>military grade rifle
>military
>grade
>>689362837
Lol so when people shoot and the cartridge is ejected millimeters from their face their heads explode.
Obviously there had to have been 50 shooters then. Each one would have died after the first shot.
>>689359680
Assault rifle, like many terms, are defined differently depending on geographic location and social contact.
California defines it differently.
California is also a neo-communist state. So who cares anyways. I can make a gun from pipes, a nail, and a drill.
>>689363045
obvious sarcasm aside, there are more than 10 amendments now. that shit can and has changed.
>>689361483
So, what how do we prevent this?
>>689363207
Even Texas is better than your state, stay mad.
>>689362833
>2-3 days for a 10/22
Because BB guns are dangerous as fuck.
>>689363235
>>689363081
>what is the m24
This gun is used to kill brown people all across the world
>>689358371
Nope, he sold this shithole, remember?
>>689363013
What a tired tirade. You people always beat the same horse with the same argument and faux concern.
>in reality more people often end up killed
As opposed to letting the shooter continue firing uncontested into a crowd of people? I seriously doubt that. If the 'good guy' is competent with his firearm he could end it and cap the potential death toll at 1/5 of what it could have been.
As for identifying the good guy. The police will demand that they drop their weapons, he will obey and get on the ground. Then he can prove his legitimacy in court.
Please go back to your echo chamber at the Huffington Post.
>>689363363
>10/22
>22
>.22 caliber bullet
Stop posting
>>689357382
Since he represents all gun owners,he must than represent all Muslims, so we need both gun control and Muslim control.
>>689357382
Oh pls bitch nigger. in the gay capitol of the world, France, they have far stricter gun laws and it's far more difficult to acquire one.
Yet through some miracle, bataclan still happened.
It's fucking mudslimes that are the fucking problem. Fuck those cunts.
I'm not pro gun or anti gun, just saying more gun restrictions and less guns won't remove kebab.
>>689363164
Fact: The Columbine massacre occured during the Assault Weapons Ban.
>>689363043
We have water and smog is in San Francisco. You think the billionaires that live in Palo Alto will let anything bad happen to their living space?
Fuck outta here
I give Colorado credit for South Park and that's about it
>>689357382
You fucking cuck. We don't need gun reform. We need Muslim reform. Ban Muslims, not guns. Problem solved. I'm sick of all this political correctness. The problem is Islam. It's people. They aren't hard to spot. They say not all Muslims are terrorists? Every "good" Muslim has a radical cousin. That's the problem. Round them up, whether they immigrated or were naturalized, put them in internment camps until they're deported back to whatever desert their ancestors are from. That faggot was a registered Democrat. Liberalism wreaks of weakness and cuckoldry. Let's all love the Muslim animals who kill out citizens. Yeah, fuck you!
>>689357382
Yeah retard, because thanks to gun laws in France they didin't have any shootings in Paris for sure.
People who want to kill will always find military-grade assault rifle. But if everybody had a weapon, it will be much more difficult to kill dozen of people.
The problem is not that there are too much guns, it's that there are not enough.
Go back to Tumblr, stupid faggot.
>>689360946
Have you ever 'stolen' (rented, dumbass) a plane? It's cheaper than buying an ar15 and ammo.
Source: pilot and gun owner
>>689362930
Are you unstable? I can give you a number to call if you need help. This is a stressful place, lets just go be free.
>>689358444
>>689358333
Fucking double triple dip
>>689363045
Meh. There are regulations for such munitions in place that I agree with.
Those aren't actually liberal words. Liberals are in favor of freedom. What you're thinking is Cultural Marxism friend.
>>689363247
Have you been to war and killed with a 5.56mm rifle, son?
>>689363316
>So, what how do we prevent this?
The only, and I mean ONLY way to prevent shootings is obvious. Outright ban and collection of ALL guns. Not just everyone's, but EVERYONE... including those with armed security.
And as a 2A supporter, I will tell you that will never EVER happen.
>>689361670
was grimmie in orlando?
>>689363508
>Implying .22lr isn't barely more than a metal BB.
Hurr.
>>689363533
this man gets it
>>689363533
This
>>689361458
Well that's retarded... presumably if you're drawing and firing, another threat has already presented itself. Or you're drawing to make an arrest, in which case you'd identify yourself.
>>689362029
u r dum
And clearly too filled with bias and irrational hate. Even if you're a gay black transjewish muslim, you're probably safer interacting with an armed bubba than you are with a member of the LAPD who's having a bad day.
>>689362565
I'm not against it in principle, but in the US, every opening is exploited to hammer down law abiding gun owners. Until NYC billionaires stop coming to my home state and lobbying to disarm people and acknowledge that the 2A is as important as the rest of the bill of rights, I've got no interest in "common sense gun control".
>>689359089
Wait, you just mean "not the brown god" don't you? I mean yeah, I get where you're coming from, but how about organized religion can just about fuck right the fuck off altogether, you simple fairy-story loving cunt?
>>689363804
You clearly are trolling or utterly stupid. Either way you're contributing nothing.
>>689361458
that's why you immediately identify yourself as a police officer if you have to draw your weapon while in plain clothes
>>689363600
>Fact: The Columbine massacre occured during the Assault Weapons Ban.
another fact.
The AWB signed by Clinton did nothing. That's why is was only for a 10 year period.
>>689363247
>>689362837
>At closer range the shockwave from the bullet will easily shatter bones, skulls
Wtf does this mean? I hope you mean 'if you get hit' then it shatters bones
And any fucking bullet will shatter your skull if you get shot in the head you spastic
>>689363757
Yes. 07-14.
You want play the bull shit game more ?
Need Muslim reform, worst events in recent US history are owned by those who call themselves Muslims.
>>689363161
Until he gets shot at, then concentrates on someone else with a gun.. now its a coin flip that you know who is who if you didnt see the first shots, add in another person with a gun and now is that a second bad guy or just another law abiding citizen?
I forgot, having a gun gives you clairvoyance, too.
>>689363975
cowadoody kills don't count muchacho
>>689363613
The people of your state are amongst the worst in the U.S. Tied with New Yorkers.
